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Hamas-linked CAIR’s Hassan Shibly likens Fox News to Islamic State

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ShiblyFoxIsisHassan Shibly of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) was on Megyn Kelly’s Fox show recently, and apparently he doesn’t think his game of detour and deception went well, as he has taken to Twitter to whine about it.

This is yet another instance of the projection that we see so often from Islamic supremacists. “They don’t tolerate anything different” is a succinct description of Hamas-linked CAIR’s media strategy. After I appeared several times with Hamas-linked CAIR operatives on MSNBC and Fox, they began to refuse to appear on shows with me: they can’t debate, they can’t discuss, they can’t answer the points I make, so instead they move to crush dissent. They usually appear now with no opposing voice, or with another guest who holds their same point of view.

And “their rhetoric calls for violence”? Fox News, of course, does not engage in the rhetoric of incitement. But for a representative of a group with numerous demonstrable ties to Hamas to charge that its foe indulges in rhetoric that calls for violence is, quite simply, a massive case of the pot calling the kettle black. Meanwhile, by relentlessly and continually spreading the Big Lie that foes of jihad terror are “bigots” and “hatemongers,” Hamas-linked CAIR is responsible for the numerous death threats we receive from their more violent coreligionists, who learn from Hamas-linked CAIR that we are enemies — when, if Hamas-linked CAIR were really “moderate,” it would join with us in opposing jihad terror and Islamic supremacism, and work for genuine Islamic reform.

Last week I was sitting on a rental car shuttle bus when a young man got on carrying two infants; he was soon followed by his wife. They looked as if they were Pakistani or Indian. The bus was crowded, and I immediately got up so that at least one of them could sit down; I stood for the rest of the ride. When we got to the airport, the young man approached me and said, “Excuse me…” I thought he was going to thank me for giving them my seat, but instead he said, “Are you Robert Spencer?” I always answer yes to that question. He continued: “I have seen you on television many times — mostly on Fox News. Needless to say, I am not a fan.” I offered him my hand, which he shook reluctantly, thanked him for saying hello, and reminded him that I had given them my seat. He said yes, indeed I had, but then added: “Stop spreading hate.” I responded: “I never, ever do that. The truth hurts.” And then we got off the shuttle.

Where did this young man get the idea that I am “spreading hate” on Fox News, and decide to respond to a small act of kindness not with graciousness, but with rudeness and arrogance? No doubt from Hamas-linked CAIR and its allies in the “Islamophobia” industry, as they relentlessly smear and defame anyone and everyone who dares stand up against jihad terror. The young man on the shuttle bus was rude, not violent, but the incident was a reminder to me of how Hamas-linked CAIR’s vicious rhetoric is what really spreads hatred and incites to violence:  the young man on the shuttle bus was full of self-righteous rage — the same kind of rage that has all too often spilled over into violence worldwide. Hamas-linked CAIR knows where its rhetoric is leading, and wants it to go that way.

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  1. I get that all the time I am spreading hate when I’m just telling the unvarnished truth. None of us are Lone Rangers when being called hatemongers.

    • Fact: Islam contradicts the Golden Rule.

      Fact: Most people do not know that Islam contradicts the Golden Rule.

      Fact: Most people assume when we raise points issuing from the lack of the Golden Rule in Islam that we are being ‘intolerant’ and harshly critical.

      Conclusion: most people need to learn that the Golden Rule is absent from Mohammed’s revelations.

      • Most people prefer to be ignorant about such things. They’re too busy playing on their smart phones and posting BS on Facebook with their BFFs.

      • Muhammad’s version of the Golden Rule would go something like this – Do unto infidels before they do unto you!

      • Me too; I HATE Islam and say so openly. If challenged one can quote some of the hundreds of koranic verses of hate, bigotry, racism and murder- all in the name of allah and his ‘prophet’. End of conversation.

      • Islamophobia is a harsh and misleading label.

        A phobia is supposed to be an unreasonable unfounded fear.

        The fear some hold is not unreasonalbe of unfounded as it is base
        upon real life experiences of the preachings and conduct of Islam over about the last 1400 years, thus the fear is not truly a phobia.

        I personally prefer my reaction to Islam which is far better described as
        Islamonausea

      • Don’t be proud of that, as a phobia is an irrational fear and you are admitting to having an irrational fear of Islam. For an infidel to have a healthy fear of Islam is NOT irrational.

  2. Where is the directive in the Koran that one must spread confusion ( know aoubt taquiyya) to come up supreme?

    • Terry,
      No Islamic doctrine is based on a single Koranic verse, but on scripture, Mohammed’s example and the ‘consensus’ of conclusions of Islam’s leading scholars before the year 1111 AD when all Islam’s doctrines were considered fully explained.

      Permission to lie to Kafirs (disbelievers) mainly comes from Koran 3:28:

      “Let not the believers TAKE FOR FRIENDS or helpers UNBELIEVERS rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except BY WAY OF PRECAUTION, that ye may Guard yourselves from them.”

      Allah says in effect that since Muslims may not befriend Kafirs, they are entitled to deceive them.

      • From the Sunna (example of Mohammed):

        Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it.” – Sahih Bukhari 5:59:369

  3. Hassan has a great point. I watched Hannity’s Shoot the Rafidah Dogs in the Head and Throw Them in the River Special Panel Edition of Hannity last night. Pamela was a better shot than I thought she would be.

    That was a joke. Hassan is a dangerous instigator trying to whip up violent anger against FNC. Bostom managed to note Quran 9.29 (probably the single most important bit of theology in the world right now, sadly) on TV which might be some kind of first of its kind.

    I give Hassan a B in dissimulation for his appearance on Megyn’s show. He did a good job of not suddenly flying into a spittle-flecked rage over Jews like so many of them do or too overtly supporting terrorism. Sometimes they just can’t help themselves.

    I hope everyone notes the way you treat Muslims as individuals in your personal life. There is no point in being nasty objectionable. Well, until they start lighting their sock or yelling “Allahu Akbar”. Then it’s not a bad idea to have a plan in mind for taking them down.

  4. No wonder there’s the Leftist-Muslim alliance. They both compare anyone on the Right to jihadists.

  5. Robert Spencer wrote: “Where did this young man get the idea that I am “spreading hate…?”

    As Mr. Spencer knows, anyone who rejects Allah’s perfect religion is a ‘hater’ because the Koran says so.

    Allah can do know wrong, so Muslims never judge his misogyny, genocidal rages, war-mongering, ignorance of science and history, barbaric cruelty and undisguised calls for terrorism.

    Truthfulness has nothing to do with Islam. Intellectual honesty has nothing to with Islam. Islam is obscurantism joined to blind rage.

    • “Islam is obscurantism joined to blind rage.”
      — —
      No short summary is ever perfect, but that’s a helluva good one.

  6. “Hamas-linked CAIR”. Homeric is thine epithet (and in iambic dimeter).

  7. “After I appeared several times with Hamas-linked CAIR operatives on MSNBC and Fox, they began to refuse to appear on shows with me: they can’t debate, they can’t discuss, they can’t answer the points I make, so instead they move to crush dissent. They usually appear now with no opposing voice, or with another guest who holds their same point of view….”

    I recently got Direct TV late May. I’ve not had television for some 15 or so years. A neighbor told me she used to watch you on Fox News regularly. I’ve not seen you on Fox yet. Why? Why do you have to debate CAIR operatives? Why can’t they have you as a stand alone guest like they do Walid Phares and ‘scholar on Islam’ Karl Rove?

  8. #HassanShiblyisRUDE

    I watched this interview, and Megyn Kelly was very polite to Hassan Shibly and she asked him some rather tame and basic questions about islam, so she and Fox did not deserve this rude response.

    Hassan Shibly and his ilk doesn’t want anyone to notice what devout muslims IS and company are. They are mimicking their prophets behavior, and as devout muslims are doing what muhammad instructed them to do. Oh, but lets not talk about THAT, shall we …

    I would have *loved* it if Megyn Kelly had asked Shilby, “Ok, but didn’t muhammad behead people, too?” …and then watch Shibly implode, lol! Perhaps any questions about muhammad are off-limits for when an islamic supremacist like CAIR & CO agree to an interview. Yeah, why is it that no one on television will talk about the White Elephant in the room: muhammad (perdition be upon him). Strange how moohamhead is usually left out of the conversation.

  9. I watched that clip on youtube he did with Kelly. He could barely contain himself from going jihad-crazy before it was done. Absolute fury in his eyes at points. It is remarkable for him to lose it like this on a tweet for all to see after he could reign in his Islamic insanity on the air like that, but I suppose the relief valve had to pop somewhere in the public square for him.

    Every answer from him was always to deflect the question and try and cast a dim view on christians, making dubious comparisons which don’t hold up in context whatsoever. He’s trying to play to the faux liberal audience with this nonsense, but it doesn’t fly at all with any true liberal-minded people, let alone thinking atheists too smart for a political ideology to distort their view of the world.

  10. The “link” narrative should be properly addressed, Hamas/Fatah/CAIR/Al’Qaeda and the multiplicity of Terror Franchises that are strategically spread within different Regions, Languages/Dialects; are all a part of and directly under the “Operational Jurisdiction” of the Moslem Brotherhood Terror High Command based in Doha, Qatar; ISIS/ISIL and IS are the “Moderate Rebel Armies Serdengeci” to the Grand Viziers in Qatar; The Al’ Ikhwan Al’Muslimeen (Brotherhood) and the Al’Thani Stateless State Sultanate, that controls Turkey and Erdogan like the “rented mules of Islamiism” that level of Ideology rhyming with Naziism; while Qatar rhymes with ‘gutter’ whereas every “Analyst” analyzes, the Genocide has reached catastrophic International proportions: The “Moderate Rebel” talking points, IS an inadequate and suicidal/homicidal one, this rhetoric IS the Islamic Caliphate that Obama and the “intellectual illiterates” Promote ignorant of what the Terror High Command Protocol of Terrorism IS all about.
    The Infiltrated Intelligence Agencies and our own U.S. Armed Forces, cannot come close to a strategy due to the “Politically Correct” redefined “Rules of Engagement” put forth by the Clinton Administration and Eric Holder, who in the 1990’s forced JAG (Judge Advocate General) to begin using ‘Civil not Military” Protocol in Military Prosecutions.
    The belief that ISIS/L; was able to appropriate Iraqi Military Equipment by sheer luck and or their ‘superior strategy’ IS a delusional and dangerous assumption.
    The American Troops were withdrawn as if not by policy but “Surrender” never has this or any country left such an arsenal behind without the proper Military safeguard in place. Curiously barely two months prior, the A 10 Warthog “tank killer” Jet Fighters were declared “obsolete” by the Obama Brotherhood.

  12. yes. we all know of the beheadings that members of fox do and then put their videos o youtube.

    /sarc off

  13. It’s eminently reasonable to suppose and suspect (though I suspect Neil Jennison would hasten to demur) that the young Pakistani (or Indian) man with whom Robert Spencer had the exchange he recounts above would, under other circumstances (such as not knowing it was Robert Spencer standing there but rather just some hapless, blithely tolerant Westerner like Neil Jennison or any number of the tens of millions of other Benefit-of-the-Doubt Givers modern Westerners have learned to be), pretend to be a perfectly nice and friendly Muslim.

  14. It must be particularly infuriating for this Muslim that Kelly is a woman. We all know what he and his ilk would do to every infidel woman if they could.

    • Megyn Kelly is better than some of the others but Fox has plenty of apologists. Karl Rove, Bill O’Reilly, Laura Ingraham, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld… Who else?

      • A few months ago, Tim Furnish (MahdiWatch.org) made an appearance on the Shepard Smith program.

        I noted that Tim had not been as direct as usual, and sent an email to him about that.

        He responded that Smith’s producer had told him to “not bash the religion”.

        • PRCS, I was not familiar with MahdiWatch—looks like a great site, thanks.

          But yes—I am hardly surprised to hear the stupid warning Tim Furnish got. I doubt this is uncommon, even on FOX.

        • gravenimage,

          I’ve long suspected that otherwise intelligent people can’t just all be so uninformed about Islam; but are, rather, limited by the particular network’s policies.

        • Here, listen to this from far-left NPR. Could Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal’s holdings in News Corp (Fox News parent company) have anything to do with the lack of forthrightness about Islam on Fox? NPR’s David Folkenflik does not think bin Talal is affecting Fox news reporting on Islam in the least, a questionable assertion at the end of the clip. Wouldn’t it serve Fox News to disclose bin Talal’s ownership to their viewers?

          http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1&t=1&islist=false&id=129584557&m=129584541

      • Every member of “The Five”.

        Every member of “Outnumbered”.

        I note that many Fox News “personalities” now use the phrase “radical Islamist jihadists”, as if there’s a difference between them and plain old, everyday jihadists.

        They just can’t all be stupid.

      • Jeanine Pirro.

        After rightly mocking Obama for his unwise and erroneous assertion that ISIS is not Islamic, she decided–with even less qualifications our dear president–to tell her audience that jihadists? were practicing a “perversion” of Islam.

        He shouldn’t?

        But it’s o.k. for her to do so?

        I guess she doesn’t recognize the hypocrisy.

        • Judge Jeanine Pirro, a bright and talented woman has not done her homework on Islam. It’s a shame. Either that or as she’s said about ISIS and their potential to do violence over here, she is afraid.

        • Also I notice Judge Pirro has had former U.S. State Department diplomat Dennis Ross on as an authority on what to do about ISIS. Ross as President Bill Clinton’s Middle East envoy furthered the sham peace process and the murderous Oslo accords which were signed on the White House lawn by late PM Yitzhak Rabin and arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat. I would not use Ross as an expert on anything related to Islam or Israel for that matter.

        • I agree.

          The combination of two people with no apparent knowledge of Islam misinforming the public, as though what they assert is fact, does our fellow citizens no good.

          Even worse, on display again today, is British PM David Cameron’s constant willingness to tell the world that the Islamic State, and the barbarities they conduct “have nothing to do with Islam”.

          IMO, there’s just no way he can be that dense.

          Wouldn’t it be grand for him to engage in a public debate about Islam with Anjem Choudary (not a Hannity style yelling match–but a debate conducted in accordance with applicable debate rules).

          As he probably knows that Choudary would kick his butt in such a debate, such isn’t likely.

  16. Hamas-linked CAIR’s Hassan Shibly likens Fox News to Islamic State
    ……………………………………

    Simply grotesque.

    And I say that not because of politics—I find a lot of what airs on MSNBC objectionable or vapid, but I would *never* compare then to the Islamic State. If I or anyone else did, we would be not just ludicrously unfair, but utterly ridiculous.

    But this is very much the MO of Muslim apologists—to imply that any critic of Islam—and FOX News is a very spotty, inconsistent critic, certainly not a harsh one; is as bad or worse than the very worst Jihadists.

    Because daring to point out savagery is as “hate mongering” as the savagery itself—if not more so. Sickeningly false.

    But Hassan Shibly has done this before. Here a writer on his site is accusing the stalwart Pamela Geller for being a “hate monger”:

    “Florida Tea Party Convention – Hate Group Extremist (Yes), Major Politicians (No)”

    http://www.hassanshibly.com/2011/11/florida-tea-party-convention-hate-group.html

    Note: when a spokesperson asks re Ms. Geller’s statements about JIhad, he asks “what things aren’t true?”. Hassan Sibley’s shill just lets the question sit there, as though it were too absurd for him to deign to answer.

    He also notes that she has brought up the shocking idea that Mein Kampf is a bestseller in Muslim countries, without ever addressing the question of whether this is true. It is.

    He also unfairly slams Robert Spencer.

    And here he accuses Republicans of being “hate mongers”. The proof? The passage of the “discriminatory” state Senate Bill 386, which would ban foreign laws from being enacted in Florida—that is, Shari’ah law.

    In other words, if you don’t want to see the codified oppression of women and Infidels and all kinds of barbarism in your state, you are “discriminating” against Muslims.

    http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20140424/article/140429816

    Then he has the gall to describe stumping for oppressive Shari’ah as a “civil liberties issue”—it is, but only if one is *opposing* it.

    Laughably, he then claims that laws opposing the horror of undemocratic Shari’ah are “unconstitutional”—without, of course, even indicating how this could be so.

    There’s lots more ugliness in that vein.

  17. Mohammed, not Robert Spencer, is spreading hate.

    The Quran is one long tirade of hate speech against those who disbelieve Mohammed.

    I have never heard Robert say one word of hate.

  18. Unfortunately, Megyn Kelly still has a Learning Curve on the Problem of Islam to study for, as Diana West has shown in a recent report on how Kelly was basically gullibly lapping up the sweet jihad which the colubrine stealth jihadist (and “ex-extremist”) Maajid Nawaz whispered in her ears.

    The final sentence of Diana West’s report aggrieves, chills, and infinitely wearies:

    As Megyn Kelly asked Nawaz, wrapping up: “How can we turn more extremists the way you were turned?”

  19. Robert keep interviewing giving speeches & writing scholarly books. Thanks

  20. Stop pointing out how the Quran is spreading hate I bet is what was running through this kid’s subconscious, though he couldn’t say *that* out loud.

    I disagree with the Quran. Hey! that’s “hate” according to Don’t-Care.

  21. I don’t think the muslim man considered your act of giving up your seat as politeness, rather an entitlement. After all, you being a lowly kafir should automatically give up your seat to the lordly muslim.

  22. First, let me apologize for providing wrong email address. I don’t want this to be traced back to me. As you may guess from the following comments, I am an Hindu Indian from Malabar. Long time lurker of this blog.

    To be aware of Spencer’s work, someone should have a stake in this conflict. If they are anti-jihadi and for your message (like most of Hindu-Indians I expect to be) or against it So the guy is either Pakistani, or Indian Muslim (I would not be surprised).

    Westerners on both sides of the conflict bring up creation of Israel as the lightning rod of Jihad (Inner Jihad – lol – anyone?). I suggest you investigate the unknown Jihads Hindus had to endure.

    No, I am not talking about Mogul invasions, or Hindu Kush (look up the meaning) and many other genocides Indians had to go through.

    I am talking about the Jihad’s Malabar Hindus had to endure. Malabar, the source of spices, which Columbus was looking for, is one of the first places Islam spread outside Arabia without bloody invasion. Malabar was the sole source of pepper, ginger and many other spices. Arabs had settled there and monopolized the spice trade which eventually prompted Europeans to find their own route (Vasco Da Gama, etc.).

    The last Jihad was in 1921 (Mopla Rebellion). As Muslim League party gained prominence after Indian Independence. it was re-badged as part of the Indian freedom struggle. Yeah, right! All “freedom fighters” were Muslims and their victims were Hindus! British also suffered, but only after they tried to enforce some order. Eventually British Army gained the upper hand and killed off the jihadis there.

    However, unfortunately for the historic revisionists, Malabar Collector William Logan recorded (in his Malabar Manual which, unfortunately, few Indians are aware of), this was not the first Jihad. There were many Jihads during the 18th-19th centuries in Malabar. Note that Logan wrote this before 1921 happened. So how can it be considered a freedom struggle?

    Anyway, this won’t be the last jihad Hindus of Malabar will have to endure. Muslims there are becoming more and more religious (a large number of them are working in the middle east, most of non-Arabs in Middle East are from Malabar). 20 years ago, you couldn’t find a hijab. Now all Muslim women there wear hijab. They – according to reliable rumors- are arming themselves for the next coming fight.

    So going back to your story, there are Muslims in both India & Pakistan who – to put it mildly -will not be receptive to your message. Readers on this blog should not be surprised of some Indian Muslim guy suddenly pops us during some conflict or starts one. After all India has the second largest mulim population.

    Readers, please educate yourself. The more you understand your enemy, the better. And – for my own sake – do not shoot the messenger & innocents. Most of the Indians in the US are Hindus, and leave poor Sikhs – who ironically fought Muslims for their survival – alone.

    • Interesting that Pakistan was formed out of 2 parts of India in about the same year (1947?) and by the same international fiat, as was Israel.
      By the mid 1970s Paks were conducting a vicious genocide against their coreligionist Bengalis in what is now Bangladesh.
      Israel has gone on to become a thriving oasis of culture and innovation in the ME>
      Pakistan continues on its downward slide to failed status.
      During the genocide, countless Muslim Bengalis sought refuge in India and eventually intervened militarily to establish Bangladesh.
      Today Hindus in Bangladesh are persecuted and many flee into India.

      • Please take note that the conflict in what was to become Bangladesh was to a great extend a muslim-hindu conflict too.
        Ted Kennedy wrote an extensive report about it for the US Congres.

  24. fox news is like ISIS: hmmmmmmm. there may be some truth here. CAIR has no obligation to lie at all times. unlike Obama, CAIR might tell the truth on occasion. it seems to me that cair is right. fox tells the truth about islam. ISIS tells the truth about the fact that islam is a religion dedicated to murder, rape, genocide, robbery, lies, and pedophilia. the two are in agreement about islam, the religion of vile unspeakable crime. score one truth told by CAIR. don’t hold your breath waiting for the next truth from an organization dedicated to the successful spread of the religion of pure evil.

  25. Robert, I’m curious.

    Did the “young man” allow his wife to take the seat you so graciously gave up, or did he take it himself?

    CGW

  26. I am immoderately anti-islam and I don’t hide it, I’m very proud of it. I think it’s a healthy symptom.

  27. Many people in India, including Christians, support global Islamic terrorism in the mistaken belief that it is “secularism”. If you see Indian news sites, you will find many Christians from the southern state of Kerala actively taking up the cause of these jihadists simply because the Hindu majority opposes jihadists. I would not be surprised if the person you encountered was an Indian based on experience, even though the majority of Indians oppose jihadists.

  28. Robert,

    That was a kind gesture. However, the ultra liberals are now giving away our country to these people. They will never say thank you for all the good things in life that their home countries do not provide. And when they are enough in numbers, they will impose themselves on us.

    Please keep up the good work. You are the last tall man standing amongst us all.

    Thanks

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