It would be refreshing if the Muslim leaders who are here condemning the Islamic State would explain how exactly they are un-Islamic. It is grotesque for children to be playing with severed heads, but the Qur’an mandates beheading: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks…” (47:4). It is gruesome for children to enjoy crucifixions, but crucifixions are mandated in the Qur’an: “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom” (5:33).
So while it is just great that these Muslim leaders condemn the Islamic State, when they don’t confront the Islamic State’s Qur’anic justifications for its actions, they do nothing to stop Islamic State recruitment in the West.
“Children of the Caliphate: Junior jihadis play with severed heads and enjoy crucifixions,” by Steve Robson, Irish Mirror, September 5, 2014:
Parading severed heads in front of pals like a new toy, this is the life of children growing up in the Islamic State.
Sickening images have emerged of boys no more than 10-year-old revelling in the bloodbath which has engulfed the region.
Another picture shows a youngster holding a Kalashnikov and posing beside the body of a crucified rebel soldier.
The horrific scenes emerged after pictures of a baby surrounded by guns and grenades was posted online yesterday by ISIS.
Muslim leaders will use sermons today to reiterate their opposition to extremism, urge young people not to join fundamentalist fighters, and call for the release of all hostages held by the Islamic State.
Imams across Scotland will use Friday prayers to reinforce these messages, according to a joint statement from the Muslim Council of Scotland, Islamic Society of Britain and Glasgow Central Mosque.
Earlier this week the parents of Glasgow woman Aqsa Mahmood who left home last November, said they were horrified to learn that she had joined radicals in Syria and married an IS fighter.
They said she had “betrayed us, our community and the people of Scotland when you took this step” but pleaded for her return, adding that they still love her.
Last month US journalist James Foley was apparently beheaded by an IS fighter with a British accent nicknamed “Jihadi John”.
This week the same person is thought to have been responsible for the murder of American Steven Sotloff, and a British hostage is currently under threat from the group.
In their statement Muslim leaders said the community “unequivocally condemns the barbaric actions of IS (formerly known as ISIS).
“We send our heartfelt sympathies to the families of those who have been killed at the murderous hands of IS – regardless of where they are from or what their religion.The actions of IS are against the teachings of Islam and therefore supporting or joining such an organisation is unacceptable.
“We call for the immediate release of all hostages held by IS and pray for all of those killed, injured or harmed by extremism the world over.”
The leaders also called on governments to “react in accordance with international and domestic law” when dealing with radicals, claiming that the war in Iraq had been the “greatest recruiting sergeant for extremist groups”.
Jihadi Children
Jaladhi says
This is sick religion and these people are mentally sick people – to put it lightly!!
Jay Boo says
NPR will caution us not to judgmental of these customs.
I suppose this doesn’t occur every day.
It appears to be a photo taken during Islamic bring a head to school day.
Shane says
The next generation of ISIS will be even worse than the current murdering savages are. Hard to believe, but the next generation will have no regard for human life. Let’s bomb these savages to hell right now!
Aion says
You are right. The current batch of jihadis in charge did not grow up in Sharia-based societies where this kind of savagery was normal, nor did their parents and likely neither did their grand parents. These kids growing up in it now, however, will absolutely never be able to see what is wrong with it. It is the only thing that is normal to them.
Angemon says
Nuke them from orbit. When the dissident voices whine “but think of the children” toss those pics on their faces.
Richie says
Thats the only logical way to destroy the islamic threat, but as the leftists hold the mantle of power in the west, i fear that will never happen
Ryah says
It’s sad to think it…. but the children are being taught that this Jihad behavior is “normal”—in their formative years….. that is going to be nearly impossible to correct, and change. To these kids— playing with a “severed head’ is acceptable, and “fun” — desensitized to death, and torture … like Saddam Hussein’s sons were—the two that enjoyed putting people in “wood-chippers”– or just doing slow torture.
Send everyone to their VIRGINS….. call in a CLEANING CREW….. and start Fresh from Scratch.
Jay Boo says
Muslims are abusing and murdering their own children with Islam.
Muslims themselves will soon bring down the house of Islam.
Terrorists are grasping to hold off Islam’s inevitable collapse.
But Islam is surely rotting from within and coming apart.
The entropy of truth can no longer be stopped in the information age.
Some will doubt this.
Myxlplik says
Angemon,
The Ideology is in retrograde, the youth yearn for the good old days of the first 3 generations. I don’t think we need to nuke them, they’ll nuke themselves, but we do need to insulate ourselves.
I think if this current movement isn’t allowed to spiral out of control and die of its own violent self imposed death in isolation, then Islam will live on as a viable alternative in the hearts and minds of Muslims, and will need to be dealt with in the future. If we nuke them, then it’s failure will be seen as the fault of others… We do need to rescue non-Muslims inside Dar al Islam, support those on the borders, rework our immigration policy, and choke off like a chemical androgen the malignancy of Islam and allow it to die of its own fallacy.
Myxlplik says
Oops got my cancer therapeutic analogy wrong, should read antiangiogenic, but anti androgen would work too, just like a chemical castration haha.
wolfgang says
Youknow the God of the bible had it right when he told the Israelite kings to kill the men, women and children and aevery living thing including their animals don’t you ? now does everyone understand why ? ……..simple ! because once the taint of the death cult [ Baal, aka the moon god ) gets into the living things it spreads like a black slimy fungus, infecting all it touches, then the stench of decaying rotting flesh must be expunged. So the children will be infected as well, these monsters are no longer children, they cannot be rehabilitated.
My answer is tell them to repent in Jesus name then execute them swiftly.
Myxlplik says
“Madam Speaker, the Koran on the table before you is a handbook for terrorists. Blood drips from its pages. It calls for perpetual war against non-believers. That Koran before you is the hunting permit for millions of Muslims. A license to kill. That book is the Constitution of the Islamic State. What ISIS does is what Allah commands.”
Geert Wilders 9/4/2014
gravenimage says
Great quote from Geert Wilders, Myxlplik. Thanks.
dumbledoresarmy says
WOW.
he really said *that*? In the Dutch parliament?
Channelling John Ewart Gladstone, who *also* held up a Koran, in the House of Commons, and called it “an accursed book”, and declared that so long as it existed, there would never be peace on the earth.
And the thing is: every word of what Wilders said is the plain, unvarnished truth.
He’s describing reality.
The Bravest Man in Europe.
Kathy Brown says
Oh yes: He said that!
He says it everywhere he goes: England (which nearly banned him, like Robert and Pamela); here; Australia, Belgium, etc….
And for his pains, he and his wife are under sentence of death by the diverse, inclusive practitioners of the ROP. They’ve lived for months at a time in jail cells; when he comes here, the Security is unimaginable.
He even had to fight a lawsuit in his own country, one v. Free Speech. He won. But this lion is nothing if not something Zero constantly touts but never is, i.e., ‘CLEAR’.
God reward and protect Geert Wilders; and raise up many like him, for His glory and the renewal of our beloved USA.
SallyA says
If in speaking from my own experience, the only experience I have, there’s more focus on faith as a Jesus follower than is comfortable for everybody, I do not intend to offend. Yes it heartens me that Jesus had a special message of love and cherishing for children, a unique message for the time. Lovely words from the Living Word about accepting God’s reign as a little child, and about literal children whose angels always see the face of our Father in heaven.
Today, prayers for protection of all children against Islamic chaos and other horrors from anybody of any faith who’s not praying to Allah! For me reading & commenting here is about increasing our common awareness opposed to Islamic terrorism and conquest. So far in 2014 Jews, Christians and Yazidis have been singled out for genodical jihad, so we three groups have reason to pray together. Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, all other followers of legitimately peaceful religions, secularists of good will who want to send good thoughts … all welcome in this cause of prayer.
Jay Boo says
Muslims do not believe whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.
They wish to earn their way with arrogant false humility.
medina says
I, too, pray daily for a reversal of the plague of Islam. The children that ISIS holds in an “orphanage” have little chance of escaping this treachery. Those little innocents need our help.
I think it is plain to see that Satan is in control of Islam. Nothing–women, mothers, children–is sacred to these barbarian. Barbarian is a word created to describe Muslims.
wolfgang says
SallyA
You better have a bible in one hand and a colt 45 in the other…….
Richie says
Muslims are like Neanderthals!
jack says
don’t you think that is giving them unworthy praise? they read a comic book called the Koran, they play soccer with heads, their idol, Mo. who honked bobo with a little girl. Neanderthals?, maybe on their best day, nah, SHFOCD, semi human form of camel dung
Kathy Brown says
You nailed that shut Jack.
It’s an insult to Neanderthals to compare them with Mu-Slimes.
Neanderthals had the smaller brain pan and limited intellect they had. Muslims savages? They, too, are made in imago Dei, but they use their free will to serve Satan himself.
No comparison.
Jay Boo says
Does anyone remember those commercials with Neanderthals taking offence at perceived politically incorrect behavior toward them?
Kathy Brown says
Hahahahahaha Jay! Indeed I do remember those; I loved them, and I think tons of other folks did too!
My favorite was ‘I’ll have the mango salsa…’.
Oh, but THEY were FUNNY JAY! Unlike the Mu-Slime creatures who do nothing but horrify all and sundry right-and-left. Well-not ‘Left’ of course.
More’s the pity.
Myxlplik says
Not really true about the Neanderthal, their average intracranial volume on average is about 300 cubic cm larger than modern humans, however modern humans do have a higher ratio of average body mass to intracranial volume.
From our perspective they may have appeared brutish, but they weren’t stupid, so yeah comparisons of practitioners of the religion of peace to Neanderthals is really unfair to Neanderthals.
Anyways if you are European you probably have a significant amount of Neanderthal DNA, the theory is there was a lot of hanky panky between Homo-Sapiens and Neanderthals in Southern Europe.
Jay Boo says
@Kathy Brown
I found the Neanderthal commercials link but forgot to hit reply and accidentally posted it at the end
18 Geico commercials
voegelinian says
Here in this thread, Jay Boo is hobnobbing with other commenters who are seriously joking about Muslims being subhuman; but in another thread, Jay Boo is (unfairly, of course) taking me to task for the same thing. This reflects a suspicious duplicity on his part (and apparently one he can get away with, since no other JWer seems to care to take notice):
Thus, Jay Boo addressed me, claiming to sum up my position (but, as usual, distorting and mischaracterizing my position) and including a generous dose of snarky sneering:
Jay Boo
September 7, 2014 at 3:09 pm
voegelinian
Your all Muslims are the same is simple.
The subhuman meme is also simple.
Maybe now I will believe that Muslims are actually some extraterrestrial humanoid species much like the Klingons and the Romulans in Star Trek who are brutish yet possess metaphysical knowledge of the universe and hidden supernatural powers.
Why didn’t I see this clearly before.
Thanks again for the volcano full of data voegelinian.
Reply
voegelinian
September 7, 2014 at 6:26 pm
“Your all Muslims are the same is simple.
The subhuman meme is also simple.”
I didn’t say all Muslims are the same.
I also didn’t say Muslims are subhuman.
Nice straw man.
Jay Boo
September 7, 2014 at 6:46 pm
@voegelinian
I said
“Your all Muslims are the same is simple.”
voegelinian you replied
“I didn’t say all Muslims are the same.”
True, you did not specifically say those exact words and I was summarizing my impression of the following which sure sounds a heck of a lot like your typical (all Muslims are the same) meme
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Also, The subhuman meme I mentioned is more implied here than overt as in some of your other comments
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/former-global-counter-terrorism-director-of-mi6-uk-should-encourage-ex-extremists-to-come-home-from-iraq-and-syria/comment-page-1#comment-1115880
Notice how concerned Jay Boo is to ferret out what he thinks is implied in my wording, and even after I explain how it’s not (and even before, I had already explained it in detail, but of course he failed to take the trouble to read my carefully), and yet now in this thread he’s trying to mingle in friendly fashion with commenters who are brazenly and blatantly calling Muslims subhumans.
Angemon says
That seems to be a situation you keep finding yourself into. Having to claim that you wrote something but you meant something else , referring to other posts and whining that other JW’ers aren’t coming out to help you, as if they’re obliged to do so. But the fault always lies on the other guy/girl, right? If they only supported your claims then everything would be alright.
Now, regarding the subhuman meme, weren’t you banned years ago for saying that muslims weren’t human?
Jay Boo says
No voegelinian
I don’t believe that Muslims are subhuman.
I don’t believe we should vaporize them all with a death ray either (BTW I am not implying that you said that)
Muslims are pretty good at killing each other and leaving a trail of misery to their own children.
The commercials I cited have more to do with mocking political correctness than anything else.
When the above commenters cited Neanderthals, I think that they were commenting more on behavior than racial characteristics.
Jay Boo says
voegelinian,
Some other commenters use terms like “subhuman” or “brown people” and that easily spirals off very quickly into areas that I believe you would not go to yourself. So from time to time if I notice a drift in that direction I will comment and other commenters are free to disagree as well.
Megiddo says
I liken the Muslim to the ‘Orks’ from the Hobbit and/or the ‘Klingons’ of Star Trek.
Jay Boo says
found it Geico commercials
harbidoll says
thanks for the laugh break! “thank u very little” LOL
zulu says
The other caliphate
Boko Haram is now taking territory and threatens a state capital
http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21615642-boko-haram-now-taking-territory-and-threatens-state-capital-other
Nigeria’s Christians fear persecution from Boko Haram rampage
“Christian men were caught and beheaded, the women were forced to become Muslim and were taken as wives to the terrorists.
http://news.yahoo.com/nigerias-christians-fear-persecution-boko-haram-rampage-131841750.html
harbidoll says
first they came for Africa but no one cares much for Africa. then—
fair_dinkum says
when your parentage is severely inbred going back generations and you statistically fall into the lowest i q bracket.. when you are free to hate..
this is just one of the results.
SpiritOf1683 says
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then…
GP says
They are doing the will of their prophet, and that is murder, rape, mutilation, and pillaging. What they do is just like the prophet of the so called Religion Of Peace himself did. The are of the devil and followers of the father of lies, he rejoices in their wickedness and depths of their depravity.
Theirs is a religion of oppression, suppression, repression. intolerance, intimidation, terror and violence. These thing are not of God but of the devil and they are of the devil and followers of the father of lies.
Philip Smeeton says
Such evil! The messages of Christ and Mohammed can in no way be compared. However, about Christians: If some people think that they must suffer in this life in order to reap rewards in some imagined afterlife, well what can you say?
It did occur to me that the opposite is the case for Muslims: they must cause suffering in this life in order to reap rewards in the afterlife.
duh_swami says
Ruining these children for life by the process of demoralization, is a very evil form of child abuse.
It’s too bad Islam has no social workers or Children protection agency, to come to the rescue. If this happened in the US, there would be multitudes of social workers and community organizers showing up.
SpiritOf1683 says
Islam and its followers will never have social workers or child protection agencies because their children are born to become warriors and breeders of warriors with a lust for blood and a thirst for the conquest and subjugation of infidels.
arlen says
Islam is easy to understand, if you just remember one simple thing, Allah is Satan.
Ha Meshuga says
Meanwhile somewhere in the deep warped mind of a pally arab……..
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4477.htm
Fred M says
This (and the baby with bombs) reminds me of a scene in Ionesco’s ‘A Walk in the Air’ where a soldier machine guns some kids, the parents approve, ‘they might as well get used to it at an a early age’ they say. Why not just kill the kids now and cut out all that messy business leading to martyrdom?
gravenimage says
Islamic State children play with severed heads and enjoy crucifixions
…………………………
Child abuse—and savagely grooming the next generation of barbarians and thugs.
God, I hate Islam.
Linda Rivera says
In condemning the muslim barbarism and the muslim children enjoying it, the muslim organizations are practicing taqiyya — deception, as taught by barbaric mass murder and huge sex-slaver, the founder of Islam who declared WAR IS DECEPTION.
Once muslim numbers increase all of these satanic horrors are coming to our countries brought to us by our wicked leaders who massively imported muslims into our countries.