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New York Daily News on AFDI ads: “Shocking anti-Islam ad campaign coming to MTA buses, subway stations”

Sep 19, 2014 1:48 pm By Robert Spencer

DailyNewsAFDI2Once again the mainstream media carries water for Islamic supremacists. What do they think it will get them? Pamela Geller’s response to this ridiculous piece is here. My comments are interspersed below, but note first the silly headline in the print edition: “Hating Jih-Ad.” Aside from the stupid wordplay, is the Daily News actually trying to say that opposing jihad — violent jihad, terrorist jihad, as depicted in our ads — is wrong? They’ve really gone off the edge now. And the idea that these ads would be subjected to this kind of negative coverage, although completely expected and unsurprising, is what is really “shocking.” It is now “shocking” and “incendiary” to oppose jihad terror — has Jennifer Fermino ever written with this much scorn about any jihad mass murderer? I highly doubt it. More below.

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“Shocking anti-Islam ad campaign coming to MTA buses, subway stations,” by Jennifer Fermino, New York Daily News, September 19, 2014:

An incendiary ad campaign that includes an image of American journalist James Foley just before his beheading in Syria is coming to 100 MTA buses and two subway stations.

The ads, paid for by flame-throwing blogger Pamela Geller, at a cost of $100,000, are intended as an “education campaign” to warn of the “problem with jihad” and Islamic sharia law, Geller said.

Note that Jennifer Fermino has almost certainly never called a jihad preacher “incendiary” or “flame-throwing” — not even the imams who have lately been caught on film calling for a new genocide of the Jews. Only resistance to jihad mass murder is “incendiary,” not promotion of it. Note also the sneer quotes around “problem with jihad,” as if the problem of jihad were something trumped up by Pamela Geller. Has Jennifer Fermino never heard of the Islamic State? Of course she has, but Barack Obama and John Kerry assure her that it is not Islamic, and that is probably good enough for her.

In one of the placard ads, Foley appears handcuffed, on his knees, next to the hooded, black-clad jihadist who is about to execute him — an image from the video released by the group Islamic State, which boasted of the execution.

The ad also contains a second photo, of the Briton suspected by some of being Foley’s killer. The Brit is shown in happier times, before he allegedly joined ISIS.

“Yesterday’s moderate is today’s headline,” the placard says.

A second ad contains a 1940s photo of a pro-Nazi Palestinian leader chatting with Adolf Hitler under the headline, “Islamic Jew-Hatred: It’s in the Quran.”

In addition to the 100 buses, Geller’s ads will appear at the entrances of the E. 59th St. station on the Lexington Ave. line and the Columbus Circle station.

Geller is a prolific blogger who writes of a “global jihad conspiracy” and calls President Obama a “clown” and an “Islamic apologist.”

Does Jennifer Fermino know what the word “apologist” means? She should look it up and then look up Barack Obama’s statements about Islam, including his recent ones about how the Islamic State is not Islamic. Barack Obama is many things, and there are many other things that people say he is that he isn’t; but there is just no doubt about the fact that he is an Islamic apologist — i.e., someone anxious to absolve Islam of responsibility for the atrocities that Muslims justify by invoking its teachings.

Her ads will surely offend some bus and subway riders, but the MTA said it has no choice but to allow them.

It tried to block Geller several years ago when she wanted to post ads in the subway that labeled enemies of Israel as “savages.”

The MTA said the ads violated its “no demeaning” language policy. But a judge ruled that rejecting the ads violated Geller’s First Amendment rights.

“If you read the court decision on this, our hands are tied,” said MTA spokesman Adam Lisberg.

As always, no one in favor of the ads is quoted.

Following that battle, the MTA updated its policy to force all viewpoint ads like Geller’s to contain language clearly stating that the opinions expressed are not the transit agency’s.

Geller’s new ads will contain the disclaimer.

In addition to the ads featuring Foley and Hitler, Geller has created a placard that links the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Muslim civil rights group known as CAIR, to the terror organization Hamas.

“Hamas is ISIS, Hamas is al-Qaeda, Hamas is Boko Haram, Hamas is CAIR in America,” it reads.

It’s a paraphrase of a quote by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who was stressing the links between Islamic extremists.

Netanyahu, though, didn’t mention CAIR.

“Geller is a known hater and there’s no law in this country that forces her to tell the truth,” said Corey Saylor, a CAIR spokesman.

He said the group has considered suing her, but doesn’t think it’s worth it.

“Defamation law being what it is in this country, we understand it would be difficult,” he said.

It would be especially difficult because Saylor knows Hamas-linked CAIR would lose such a suit. Hamas-linked CAIR’s ties to Hamas are not the imaginings of Pamela Geller, as Jennifer Fermino seems to think. Her “civil rights group” was actually named an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding case not by Pamela Geller, but by the Justice Department. Hamas-linked CAIR operatives have repeatedly refused to denounce Hamas and Hizballah as terrorist groups. Several former CAIR officials have been convicted of various crimes related to jihad terror. CAIR’s cofounder and longtime Board chairman (Omar Ahmad), as well as its chief spokesman (Ibrahim Hooper), have made Islamic supremacist statements. Its California chapter distributed the poster above telling Muslims not to talk to the FBI. CAIR has opposed every anti-terror measure that has ever been proposed or implemented.

But as far as Jennifer Fermino is concerned, none of that is fit to print, as germane as it may be to the assertion in the ad. Hamas-linked CAIR is a “civil rights group” and Pamela Geller is a “flamethrower.” Your moral superiors have spoken. Shut up.

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  1. mariam rove says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    Great! Looking forward to seeing them! I work in NYC. M

  2. Limersbey says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    I’m glad these ads are going to run. Telling the truth about Islam and making others aware of the threat we face is an absolute must if we are to successfully push back against jihadists, both stealthy and brazen.

    • Huck Folder says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 10:53 pm

      “Defamation law being what it is in this country, we understand it would be difficult,” he said.”

      Thinking like a mohammedan and day dreaming.
      “If only we had sharia and we could sue ANYONE who ever said ANYTHING negative – hell anything not absolutely positive – about short arse mo, his sock-puppet allah, “The Book of Hate™”, any worshipper of mo, any islamist state…”

      Because under sharia, the hurt (real or imagined) IS the crime, and THE TRUTH IS IRRELEVANT.

  3. Champ says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:11 pm

    has Jennifer Fermino ever written with this much scorn about any jihad mass murderer? I highly doubt it.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Great point, Robert …

    Jennifer needs to stop being a coward and straighten out her wrongheaded and dangerous thinking, and then take aim at the real enemy: islam & company!

    And if she can’t be brave by confronting the real enemy, then she does have the option to Shut Up …

    • wildjew says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 6:42 pm

      I learned a new term this evening: “sneer quotes”

      The same as scare quotes

      1. (Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) quotation marks placed around a word or phrase to indicate that it should not be taken literally or automatically accepted as true

    • wildjew says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Jennifer Fermino may think it is better to appease Islam than risk being beheaded.

      What was Churchill’s dictum about feeding the alligator?

    • Rajivi says

      Sep 20, 2014 at 3:32 am

      She has written in support of Islam..as can be seen from her writings

      http://www.islamist-watch.org/author/Jennifer+Fermino

  4. mortimer says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:12 pm

    Hating is appropriate when there is horrible crime…jihad is the criminal activity of genocide…jihad is a series of crimes against humanity.

    It is shocking how the Left supports genocide, misogyny and discrimination when it attacks their favorite demons.

    They give Islamic supremacists like CAIR a moral free ride, rather than assuming the required “ADVERSARIAL ATTITUDE” all journalists should have in interviews.

    These journalists are not provided balanced, accurate reporting. Their inaccuracy comes from failing to challenge the supremacists.

    • Bettina says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 5:47 pm

      Yes, Mortimer — the media’s inaccuracy is based on the very deadly sin of omission or obfuscation. They’re all afraid that if they tie jihad to islam, our people will rise up against every muslim individual. They don’t want to be accused of jingoism, so they play it close to the vest.

  5. Don McKellar says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    Any thinking member of the public who was unaware of these ads until they came across this silly tabloid “expose”, will now be greatly impressed that somebody, somewhere is speaking the truth and putting it up in public. This is good publicity. These ads now need to by “exposed” by the jokes that are CNN and the rest for more publicity. The thing with ads like this is that the truth is front and center, and the fakeness of those “exposing” them comes into sharp focus in stories like these. They get their hands dirty with the truth just by reporting on them. No escape.

    • Sovereign Man says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 7:04 pm

      I had the same thought and posted it before seeing your comment. I have nothing to add; exactly right you are.

  6. Stanton Cordray says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    A welcome dressing down of the Fermino article, which needs answering. I am not American, but, I might say, in defense of Mr. Obama, that, whatever his personal opinion of jihad terror, or of the ideology that inspires it, his hands are tied when it comes to commenting on Islam in general. He can hardly risk alienating so important a U.S. ally as Saudi Arabia, and he clearly has no desire to make the United States look even more like an enemy of Islam than it already does to many millions of unthinking, muddle-headed Muslims around the world who are unfortunately incapable of thinking independently. And they are not the first human beings in history with that failing.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 4:16 pm

      Stanton Cordray wrote:

      …but, I might say, in defense of Mr. Obama, that, whatever his personal opinion of jihad terror, or of the ideology that inspires it, his hands are tied when it comes to commenting on Islam in general. He can hardly risk alienating so important a U.S. ally as Saudi Arabia, and he clearly has no desire to make the United States look even more like an enemy of Islam than it already does to many millions of unthinking, muddle-headed Muslims around the world who are unfortunately incapable of thinking independently. And they are not the first human beings in history with that failing.
      ………………………….

      Good grief—where to start? Firstly, it seems odd that you would say, “whatever his personal opinion of jihad terror”—that means that it does not matter what opinion the American president *has on the murder of his own people*, which is profoundly disturbing. It may, of course, also be true—but it is by no means irrelevant.

      Then, Saudi Arabia is not really “an ally”—most of the 9/11 highjackers were Saudis. SA regularly sponsors Jihad terror.

      But you seem to acknowledge this in a backhanded way, implying that Saudi Arabia would sponsor even more Jihad terror if we are too open in acknowledging that it exists.

      Doesn’t sound like much of an “ally” to me.

      And we may not consider ourselves an “enemy of Islam”, but Islam certainly considers itself an enemy of ours.

      Then you describe Jihadists as “unthinking, muddle-headed”—but this *does not mean* that they don’t have a goal. The ultimate aim of Jihad terror is conquest and the imposition of Islamic law.

      And, finally, you note that they are “not the first human beings in history with that failing”—this is true.

      But when did appeasement *ever* make us safe from the violent adherents of an oppressive ideology?

      You say you are not American—I’m not sure if you are British. If so, you will probably recall the efforts of Neville Chamberlain, and how one is always foolish to assume that appeasement of savagery will mean peace.

      • Stanton Cordray says

        Sep 19, 2014 at 5:24 pm

        “Whatever his personal opinion of jihad terror, or of the ideology that inspires it” was meant to be form of words suggesting that he is no doubt contemptuous of these things, so that I can then go on to say that he is not therefore at liberty to criticize Islam in general. I didn’t mean to say that he may or may not disapprove of mass murder.

        Saudi Arabia has always been very close with the United States, and no American leader would want to put that at risk. Not while the Saudis are so extravagantly oil rich, anyway. It is a very troubled country, where the authorities are reduced to ploys and accommodations in order to prevent the dangerous elements from becoming too influential, but of course it is no more in control of the conduct of every one of its citizens than is any other country.

        By “unthinking” and “muddle-headed” I meant your ordinary Muslim in the street, not jihadists. I was referring to those many millions of people who, with their minds dominated by religion, see international relations quite differently from a secular perspective, and are inclined to regard the greatest democracy in the world as merely an enemy of the community of the faithful, i.e. themselves. That isn’t a mentality that will serve either American interests, or international relations in general, and I don’t think it qualifies as “appeasement” to refrain from helping it to grow.

        I’m Canadian, btw.

        • Western Canadian says

          Sep 19, 2014 at 9:49 pm

          No, the US and Saudi Arabia have not always been close, very or otherwise… The Brits had been, but that is history. The US and the Brits had been very close for a couple of centuries, and the clown in chief has never refrained from putting that at risk..

          Any ‘mind’ dominated by islam (RTC) is a mind that has been so twisted and filled with hate, that it can barely be classed as a mind…

          Strike three.

        • Stanton Cordray says

          Sep 20, 2014 at 3:19 pm

          Saudi Arabia is probably the United States’s closest ally in the Middle East. You might remember that wikileaks revealed that the Saudis had actually been urging the Americans to make war on Iran before that country became a nuclear power. Cut of the hydra’s head before it grows, I think they put it. After 9/11, when it was embarrassingly revealed that most of the perpetrators were Saudi citizens, the Saudi Royal Family mounted an expensive ad campaign to reassert their close friendship with the U.S. The U.S. sometimes criticizes the policies of their close ally Israel. They never criticize Saudi Arabia.

          Again, as I was saying, a perception that the United States is somehow at war with the whole of Islam is in no one’s interest internationally. Any American president would be irresponsible to provoke it. And, for all Islam’s obvious illiberal and dangerous aspects, I don’t think it is true to say that “any ‘mind’ dominated by Islam is a mind that has been so twisted and filled with hate, that it can barely be classed as a mind.” If that were true the Middle East wouldn’t just be a troubled region, it would be ungulphed by non-stop, total war at the national level.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 21, 2014 at 12:35 am

          Stanton, thank you for your lengthy reply. You wrote:

          “Whatever his personal opinion of jihad terror, or of the ideology that inspires it” was meant to be form of words suggesting that he is no doubt contemptuous of these things, so that I can then go on to say that he is not therefore at liberty to criticize Islam in general.
          …………………………..

          I don’t believe Obama would criticize Islam were he “at liberty” to do so. His history is rather more at enabling Islam.

          And American presidents in the past *have* criticized Islam—John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and John Quincy Adams were all quite clear-eyed on the subject.

          They were polite to ambassadors from Dar-al-Islam, but they did not pretend they could be trusted or that Islam was a benignant creed.

          Americans had little direct confrontation with Islam between beating back the Barbary Pirates and the Iran hostage crisis in 1979—and by that time “political correctness” had made disturbing inroads.

          More:

          Saudi Arabia has always been very close with the United States, and no American leader would want to put that at risk. Not while the Saudis are so extravagantly oil rich, anyway.
          …………………………..

          We are producing more of our own oil now—but even if we were not, pretending that a horrific oppressive theocracy like Saudi Arabia is an “ally”—fantasy-based foreign policy—is never a good idea.

          Moreover, we *have* used our influence before—in 1962, it was largely American influence that led Saudi Arabia—on paper, at least—to finally end slavery there.

          More:

          It is a very troubled country, where the authorities are reduced to ploys and accommodations in order to prevent the dangerous elements from becoming too influential, but of course it is no more in control of the conduct of every one of its citizens than is any other country.
          …………………………..

          I’m afraid its quite a bit worse than you think. Saudi Arabia is much worse than “troubled”—it is a horrifying tyranny that accuses people of “blasphemy” and “sorcery”, and often imprisons and even executes them for these false crimes. They behead people with almost the same relish as the Islamic State. Every Friday they lop off heads in “Chop-Chop Square”.

          Women and children are horribly persecuted there—woman cannot drive or leave their homes with out a “Mehram” (an adult male relative, virtually an owner), women can be judicially murdered for falling in love—a Saudi princess was beheaded for this a couple of decades ago—and a father can legally murder his own daughters.

          And foreign workers—especially poor laborers and domestic help—are regularly raped and abused. Usually their passports are seized by their employers so that it is difficult or impossible for them to leave the country. This abuse is systematic.

          And as far as their “dangerous elements” go, the only concern Saudi authorities have is that Jihadists don’t *attack them*. They encourage them to target Infidels.

          And it is not just dangerous elements that Saudi Arabia has no control over—Saudi *itself* preaches Jihad, as well as sponsoring Jihad preaching and teaching in Mosques and Madrasses that they have set up all over the world—including in the West, and specifically in the US and Canada.

          More:

          By “unthinking” and “muddle-headed” I meant your ordinary Muslim in the street, not jihadists. I was referring to those many millions of people who, with their minds dominated by religion, see international relations quite differently from a secular perspective, and are inclined to regard the greatest democracy in the world as merely an enemy of the community of the faithful, i.e. themselves…
          …………………………..

          Many “ordinary Muslims” support violent Jihad and the imposition of brutal of Shari’ah law—even if they are not actively waging violent Jihad right now.

          The only reason they consider the US—and the rest of the West—as an “enemy of Islam” is that we have, sporadically at least, resisted Jihad and Shari’ah.

          More:

          That isn’t a mentality that will serve either American interests, or international relations in general…
          …………………………..

          This isn’t a mentality that serves any free Infidel, anywhere in the world. But then, it it not meant to…

          More:

          …and I don’t think it qualifies as “appeasement” to refrain from helping it to grow.
          …………………………..

          To pretend that Islam is not violent, and to avoid mentioning it lest Muslims become *even more violent*, is *nothing* but appeasement.

          Moreover, it is not our daring to mention the horrors of Islam that causes it to grow—rather, it is their becoming emboldened because they are meeting so little resistance from us—including our not daring to call Jihad and Shari’ah horrors.

          More:

          I’m Canadian, btw.
          …………………………..

          My mother, who was English, lived in Canada before moving on to the States.

          We are close allies—and are both in grave danger from these horrors, whether we are brave and honest enough to acknowledge it or not.

          More, to Western Canadian:

          Saudi Arabia is probably the United States’s closest ally in the Middle East.
          …………………………..

          No—our only real ally in the Middle East is Israel—though you would never know it from the appalling way Obama has been treating her.

          Saudi Arabia is no more an ally than is Pakistan.

          More:

          You might remember that wikileaks revealed that the Saudis had actually been urging the Americans to make war on Iran before that country became a nuclear power. Cut of the hydra’s head before it grows, I think they put it.
          …………………………..

          They don’t consider Iran a hydra because they are waging violent Jihad—but just because they are rival Shi’ites to Saudi Arabia’s Sunnis.

          Saudi Arabia is all too happy to have us take out their enemies—this is *not* indicative of any sort of actual opposition to Jihad terror.

          More:

          After 9/11, when it was embarrassingly revealed that most of the perpetrators were Saudi citizens, the Saudi Royal Family mounted an expensive ad campaign to reassert their close friendship with the U.S.
          …………………………..

          This was nothing but Taqiyya. Here is Saudi Arabia’s view of the US:

          Saudi King Fahd in 1993—during the First Gulf War when we were defending them from Saddam Hussein, said, “I summon my blue-eyed slaves anytime it pleases me. I command the Americans to send me their bravest soldiers to die for me. Anytime I clap my hands a stupid genie called the American ambassador appears to do my bidding. When the Americans die in my service their bodies are frozen in metal boxes by the US Embassy and American airplanes carry them away, as if they never existed. Truly, America is my favorite slave.”

          Do those sound like the words of an ally?

          More:

          The U.S. sometimes criticizes the policies of their close ally Israel. They never criticize Saudi Arabia.
          …………………………..

          Well, this is largely true—especially under this administration—and it is *appalling*. Israel is not only an actual ally or ours, and a very staunch one, but they are a full democracy, and Saudi Arabia is a totalitarian theocracy.

          Obama has slighted Britain as well—while slathering all over Pakistan.

          No American Anti-Jihadist is proud of this vicious insanity.

          More:

          Again, as I was saying, a perception that the United States is somehow at war with the whole of Islam is in no one’s interest internationally. Any American president would be irresponsible to provoke it.
          …………………………..

          America has never given that impression—nor have we ever said such a thing. But it does not matter—the US is perceived as the most powerful Infidel nation, and that is enough to make her the new “Rome” (Byzantium), and hence the biggest target.

          More:

          And, for all Islam’s obvious illiberal and dangerous aspects, I don’t think it is true to say that “any ‘mind’ dominated by Islam is a mind that has been so twisted and filled with hate, that it can barely be classed as a mind.” If that were true the Middle East wouldn’t just be a troubled region, it would be ungulphed by non-stop, total war at the national level.
          …………………………..

          Perhaps you have not been reading the news lately—that is *exactly* where Dar-al-Islam is headed.

          The West had been able to beat back the worst of the Jihad threat back from about 200 years ago—the defeat of the Barbary Pirates, and the end of Muslims’ regular enslavement of Westerners, one I am proud to say the Americans spearheaded, before being joined by Britain and France; until about fifty years ago, when the Jihad against Israel, unearned oil wealth, and growing “political correctness” in the West led to a resurgent Islam.

          The process accelerated greatly after the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979, and accelerated further following the “Arab Spring”.

          Right now, Islam is resurgent—and oppression and violence with it—in Western China, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in the “Palestinian territories”, in Somalia, in Kenya, in Libya, in Nigeria, and across Europe—and has reached its hideous apogee in the Islamic State.

          And there is no indication that this tsunami of Islamic violence is slowing—just the opposite, in fact.

          And pretending it is not happening will *not* make it go away…

    • Betty says

      Sep 20, 2014 at 1:55 pm

      well ANY AMERICAN WITH A OUNCE OF SENSE KNOWS THE LITTLE O STANDS WITH ISLAM OUT OF HIS ON MOUTH. AND THAT IS ALL TRUE AMERICANS NEED TO KNOW.

  7. CogitoErgoSum says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:22 pm

    In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
    — George Orwell

    • Sovereign Man says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      Yes, exactly.

      I think that truth eventually becomes self-evident, and I think many of the people reading this smear piece will actually read the ad itself, and hopefully some of them may see the light – something these appeaser idiots at the NY Daily probably didn’t consider. In advertising, controversy=publicity.

  8. voegelinian says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm

    has Jennifer Fermino ever written with this much scorn about any jihad mass murderer? I highly doubt it.

    It would be surprising, unfortunately, if she had, since we know from the First Commandment of PC MC, perhaps first blatantly promulgated by General George Casey, Army Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army at the time of the Fort Hood shooting in 2009 (but he was only uttering an axiom that had been more or less revealed by the Burning Bush years before that, and which the PC MC gods had woven into our Western culture for decades up to that point):

    “…as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse”.

    http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2009/11/08/general-casey-diversity-shouldnt-be-casualty-of-fort-hood/

    I.e., the First Commandment of PC MC in all its starkly repulsive glory, when we boil it down — and its full horror matches the terror of Islam like a grimly dark funhouse mirror-image when we recall that “Diversity” in our time is code for “Protecting Muslims at all cost”. Thus:

    “Protecting Diversity is more important than protecting the lives of our men, women and children.”

    • Bamaguje says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      In a way General George Casey was right.
      Hindus, Buddhists and other non-Muslim ethnic minorities are not a diversity threat to the U.S. military.
      Muslims are the only diversity threat to USA and the West.

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 19, 2014 at 7:54 pm

        Casey’s “Diversity”, as I said clearly in my comment, is code for “We must protect Muslims”. So in his terms, he is dead wrong.

  9. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    “Shocking” really ? All this means it that there are some people who can’t stand to hear the truth.

  10. Boston Tea Party says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    I don’t know, I guess being a reader of this site I’m obviously biased, but even Fermino’s description of the ad—where she’s trying to make it sound outrageous—sounded pretty reasonable to me. Are we really at the point where it’s controversial and bad to denounce beheadings and Nazi collaborators, and the ideology that inspires those things?

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      Just what I was thinking, Boston Tea Party. Are we now supposed to hold back even from condemning *the beheading of a journalist*, lest we appear “Islamophobic”? Madness…

      • Boston Tea Party says

        Sep 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm

        Yes, as Wellington often says here, we are truly living in the “Age of Nonsense.”

  11. gravenimage says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 3:34 pm

    New York Daily News on AFDI ads: “Shocking anti-Islam ad campaign coming to MTA buses, subway stations”
    ………………………………..

    So is Jennifer Fermino admitting that violent Jihad terrorism is a central tenet of Islam? But, of course, she would not want anyone to read it that way…

    More:

    Her ads will surely offend some bus and subway riders, but the MTA said it has no choice but to allow them.
    ………………………………..

    So subway riders won’t be offended by the savage beheading of an American journalist,but they will be offended by someone daring to point out how awful it is?

    Really, this is the central axis Muslim apologia spins on.

    More:

    “Geller is a known hater and there’s no law in this country that forces her to tell the truth,” said Corey Saylor, a CAIR spokesman.
    ………………………………..

    Note the oh-so-Western-sounding Corey Saylor doesn’t mention what Ms. Geller is wrong about—and how can he? Everything she says is true.

    • Semeru says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 9:44 pm

      craven said
      Note the oh-so-Western-sounding Corey Saylor doesn’t mention what Ms. Geller is wrong about—and how can he? Everything she says is true

      That is a lie, Geller does not always tell the truth, One of her most obnoxious lies was her posting images of decapitated heads and claiming that they victims where christians, when in reality they where moslem that where decapitated by headhunting Dayaks during the Sampit conflict.

      http://pamelageller.com/2006/11/islamic_jihad_i-2.html/

      Here we see images of beheadings. The problem with images 4 6 7 8 9 is they victims of Dayaks who ran amok and slaughter Maduurese

      The Sampit conflict was an outbreak of inter-ethnic violence in Indonesia, beginning in February 2001 and lasting throughout the year. The conflict started in the town of Sampit, Central Kalimantan Province, and spread throughout the province, including the capital, Palangkaraya. The conflict was between the indigenous Dayak people and the migrant Madurese from the island of Madura.

      It broke out on February 18, 2001 when two Madurese were attacked by a number of Dayaks. The conflict resulted in more than 500 deaths, with over 100,000 Madurese displaced from their homes.Many Madurese were also found decapitated by the Dayaks.

      Geller blatantly lies that some-one sent her the images and “I cannot reveal too much or I will jeopardize the lives of those that smuggled these pics out.” what utter crap

      image 3 is from Banuwangi, and is connected to the Black Ninjas murders

      http://www.insideindonesia.org/weekly-articles/the-banyuwangi-murders

      http://www.fica.org/hr/lain/lain4.htm

      images 9 10 have been around since 1999

      http://www.fica.org/hr/sanggauledo/Sanggauledo2.html

      Images 6 7 8 have been around since 2001

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 21, 2014 at 2:23 pm

        Everything Ms. Geller says *here* is true.

        Semeru’s ludicrous, constant hammering away at the idea that if anyone has ever made an error at any time that it completely invalidates the obvious fact that Islam is intrinsically violent and oppressive, and represents an existential danger to all Infidels, is just ridiculous.

        Pamea Geller does very much tell the truth—I never claimed that this makes her, or any of us, somehow infallible or omniscient.

        This is an absurd, impossible standard—and he means to imply that if we cannot meet such a standard that we should never dare speak out about the greatest evil of our time.

        Notice that he never holds *apologists* for evil to the same sort of standard, even when they are lying outright, as does CAIR. But then, why would he, given his agenda here?

  12. Jaladhi says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    My question to Daily News is what if one of their correspondent was victim of Muslim “jih-ad”? Would they still be writing this crap?? MORONS!!

  13. duh_swami says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    In any conflict between the coward and the hero, I always support the hero…When has Jennifer ever risked her life and well being in behalf of others? Pam and Robert and others like them are first responders, they go to the trouble, not run away from it. All these misguided dhimmi appeasers like Jennifer run away and criticize those who don’t. The cowards opinions, don’t weigh much…

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 21, 2014 at 12:46 am

      Duh Swami wrote:

      In any conflict between the coward and the hero, I always support the hero…
      …………………………….

      Very true, Swami. And perhaps even more so, I never *enable the villain*, which is exactly what Jennifer Fermino is doing.

  14. Jaladhi says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 3:47 pm

    Does this reporter know that she has become an Islamic apologist!!

    • Charli Main says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 4:28 pm

      Jennifer Fermino needs a short, sharp reality check. Like having her clitoris hacked off and being forced to dress in a black bin bag.

  15. Diane Harvey says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    “Posting ripping Islam”

    All these posters do is show what Muslims do on behalf of their Islam.

  16. Bezelel says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    “Geller is a known hater and there’s no law in this country that forces her to tell the truth,” said Corey Saylor, a CAIR spokesman.
    He said the group has considered suing her, but doesn’t think it’s worth it.
    “Defamation law being what it is in this country, we understand it would be difficult,” he said.
    Pamela to the best of my knowledge always makes a pointed difference between muslims and jihad. Anti-Jihad. It seems to me that the “journalist?” is the one who has a problem distinguishing islam from jihad. corey saylor is the one taking advantage of the noncompulsory status for telling the truth and the defamation attempts toward Pamela have gone unchallenged.
    PS Much love and blessings to you Pamela, The flak is thicker when you’re over the target.

  17. mortimer says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    To the EDITOR OF THE NEW YORK DAILY NEWS:

    What is your point? We should LOVE JIHAD maybe?

    Are you a dhimmi?

    • Bettina says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm

      Best to address them the question, via their website?

  18. Bettina says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    I chose to address the MTA via their website, by first choosing Corporate Office, then Commendations. Here’s my text if anyone’s interested:

    “You have my sincere thanks for helping us Americans to know and fight against the Jihadis and koranic mandates to perform mass rapes, torture, slavery and murders of all infidels if they don’t convert.
    We here in Seattle applaud you for your even-handedness, after allowing muslim propaganda on your buses and stations.
    Please remain just, fair and balanced: That’s the true spirit of America!

    • Bettina says

      Sep 19, 2014 at 5:34 pm

      Forgot to insert close quotes at the end.

  19. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 6:04 pm

    Free speech in America? Shocking. They gotta get John McCain and Chuck Schumer on the case to pressure Secretary of “Justice” Eric The Red Holder to stop this. There is no place for the truth about Moslems, better to reside inside a quiet fantasy, a serene park in which Unicorns gallop over green grass.

  20. Myxlplik says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    Jennifer Fermino is just the other side of the coin, she has noticed the truth is inflammatory ….

    Mission accomplished, worth at least 100 g’s

  21. Farside says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    This is going to tell the truth about Islam?

    These billboards only entrench the other side even deeper, and worse makes the average Joe think your a hate group. (Mostly thanks to the media)

    What needs to be done is a grassroots effort. Door to door, Jehovah witness style! Give people a chance to read material and direct them to the proper websites, from Spencer and other fighters for freedom!

    PS I’m not a Jehovah’s Witness

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 21, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      How does condemning *violent Jihad*—the beheading of a journalist—make you a “hate group”?

  22. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    Note also the sneer quotes around “problem with jihad,” as if the problem of jihad were something trumped up by Pamela Geller.

    Sneer quotes around the problem of Jihad; skewer Geller with the thrusted rod,
    Sneers and jeers result in a quotus interruptus, thought not birth control,
    The Moslems just ain’t that hard to figure out, just got to get to know their god,
    Their god of world takeover by porno heaven Jannat killer bloodlust, on the go.

  23. R Davis says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    I wonder how long it will take before they come to Australia.
    Like the disciples that we are, we follow in your footsteps diligently, here.
    Australia’s P.M. has his image plastered, full bust frontal, all over the media, for the charismatic super star that they have convinced him that he is – calling out “terrorists at large, terrorists at large,” as his metaphorically hairy chest bulges out from the gaps between where his shirt buttons.
    Australia’s P.M. – a man who likes to muck in – easily led.
    By all accounts actors have been engaged to present as Islam Extremists & our police force are today The Keystone Cops reincarnated.

    Robert – FAKE BLOOD DRIES BRIGHT RED – telling of a real kill or not.

  24. wildjew says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 7:32 pm

    Jennifer Fermino wrote: ‘Geller is a prolific blogger who writes of a “global jihad conspiracy” and calls President Obama a “clown” and an “Islamic apologist.” ‘

    We could only wish this dangerous Muslim-“born” president with deep sympathies for the world of Islam were a clown.

  25. awake says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 8:05 pm

    The only thing shocking about the Ads, is how horribly true they are.

    Salient point by Robert for pointing out the sourcing bias. Why would the Islam apologists actually quote anyone associated with the ads?

    They wouldn’t, and they didn’t.

  26. Farside says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 8:08 pm

    Got to be a better way

  27. Anon says

    Sep 19, 2014 at 9:31 pm

    “…and calls President Obama a ‘clown'” well, he has been clowning-around regarding the global threat of Islam, if it looks like a clown, might be a clown.

    “Defamation law being what it is in this country, we understand it would be difficult…”

    That’s actually a veiled threat implying that U.S. law is not good enough, and is not as good as a blasphemy law would be, i.e. Sharia law.

    Translated:

    “Free speech being what it is in this country, we understand it would be difficult…”

  28. No Fear says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 2:16 am

    How old is Jennifer Fermino?

    I know Pammy Geller is my age. She has seen a lot in her life.

  29. hammar says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 8:06 am

    Why are the ads ‘shocking’? Islam has been killing, murdering, raping, robbing non believers since moham raped the nine year girl who he claimed was his wife.
    Do you really think she enjoyed him? Oh my…the world is so sick.

  30. Lookmann says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 9:00 am

    Well, this compaign gets global attention :-

    New York City buses to carry anti-Islam posters

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/media/advertising-and-pr/2014/09/20/NYC-busses-to-carry-anti-Islam-ads-.html

  31. Pathfinder0100 says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Pamela keep up the good work!! Don’t ever quit!! Love your spirit and how you never seem to let the idiots get you down!!

  32. katarzyna says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 2:29 pm

    your comments are so civilised. thats good thing of course.
    in poland many comments posted on mainstream media websites are not so cultural. overall jihad is jihad, and for many jihadis are goat-fuckers.

  33. hammar says

    Sep 20, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Jesus is Lord and Savior! God Himself! In the Flesh!
    Hello, islam is about murder, raping children! Hello…mohammed is a shit head!
    And has been dead an rotting in hell burning with adolf for centuries.
    islam is nazism hello wake up, liberals!
    All muslims suck! whether they are woman and children…the men all shit in their pants…hello..smell the air…islam is hateful…not the ads ass holes..

  34. Pelony Almoni says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 1:32 am

    I think that I am going to pay for some anti-Nazi ads in the subways; then, I will wait for the news story that I am anti-German. Next, I will pay for anti-communism ads; then, I will wait for the news story that I am anti-Russian and anti-Chinese.
    I wonder, if someone were to put up an ad criticizing Israel for its actions this summer, would there be any one in the media that would call that person an anti-semite? Well? (The answer: Yes, conservatives on FoxNews or conservative radio shows. But, then again, everyone in the mainstream media knows that conservatives are hate-mongers, right?)

    Utter STUPIDITY. Next I will put up an ad saying that I agree with almost everything Mr. Obama says; then I will wait for the news report calling me a racist because I had the audacity to use the word “almost.”

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO JOURNALISM IN THIS COUNTRY?

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