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Obama at the UN: “United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace.”

Sep 24, 2014 5:18 pm By Robert Spencer

barack-obama-un“Second, it is time for the world – especially Muslim communities – to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL.” As if they knew he would say this today (did they?), an international group of Muslim scholars today issued a purported refutation of the Islamic State’s understanding of Islam. Unfortunately, it is yet another farrago of detours, deceptions, half-truths and outright falsehoods. Will Muslim communities ever really reject the ideology of al Qaeda and the Islamic State? They haven’t yet in any way that would make even one jihadist lay down his arms and become a “moderate.”

More fantasy and wishful thinking from Obama: “Full text of President Obama’s 2014 address to the United Nations General Assembly,” Washington Post, September 24, 2014:

…I have made it clear that America will not base our entire foreign policy on reacting to terrorism. Rather, we have waged a focused campaign against al Qaeda and its associated forces – taking out their leaders, and denying them the safe-havens they rely upon. At the same time, we have reaffirmed that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace. Muslims the world over aspire to live with dignity and a sense of justice. And when it comes to America and Islam, there is no us and them – there is only us, because millions of Muslim Americans are part of the fabric of our country.

So we reject any suggestion of a clash of civilizations. Belief in permanent religious war is the misguided refuge of extremists who cannot build or create anything, and therefore peddle only fanaticism and hate. And it is no exaggeration to say that humanity’s future depends on us uniting against those who would divide us along fault lines of tribe or sect; race or religion….

No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning – no negotiation – with this brand of evil. The only language understood by killers like this is the language of force. So the United States of America will work with a broad coalition to dismantle this network of death….

Second, it is time for the world – especially Muslim communities – to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of al Qaeda and ISIL.

It is the task of all great religions to accommodate devout faith with a modern, multicultural world. No children – anywhere – should be educated to hate other people. There should be no more tolerance of so-called clerics who call upon people to harm innocents because they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim. It is time for a new compact among the civilized peoples of this world to eradicate war at its most fundamental source: the corruption of young minds by violent ideology….

That means bringing people of different faiths together. All religions have been attacked by extremists from within at some point, and all people of faith have a responsibility to lift up the value at the heart of all religion: do unto thy neighbor as you would have done unto you.

The ideology of ISIL or al Qaeda or Boko Haram will wilt and die if it is consistently exposed, confronted, and refuted in the light of day. Look at the new Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies – Sheikh bin Bayyah described its purpose: “We must declare war on war, so the outcome will be peace upon peace.” Look at the young British Muslims, who responded to terrorist propaganda by starting the “notinmyname” campaign, declaring – “ISIS is hiding behind a false Islam.” Look at the Christian and Muslim leaders who came together in the Central African Republic to reject violence – listen to the Imam who said, “Politics try to divide the religious in our country, but religion shouldn’t be a cause of hate, war, or strife.”…

Third, we must address the cycle of conflict – especially sectarian conflict – that creates the conditions that terrorists prey upon.

There is nothing new about wars within religions. Christianity endured centuries of vicious sectarian conflict. Today, it is violence within Muslim communities that has become the source of so much human misery. It is time to acknowledge the destruction wrought by proxy wars and terror campaigns between Sunni and Shia across the Middle East. And it is time that political, civic and religious leaders reject sectarian strife. Let’s be clear: this is a fight that no one is winning. A brutal civil war in Syria has already killed nearly 200,000 people and displaced millions. Iraq has come perilously close to plunging back into the abyss. The conflict has created a fertile recruiting ground for terrorists who inevitably export this violence….

My fourth and final point is a simple one: the countries of the Arab and Muslim world must focus on the extraordinary potential of their people – especially the youth.

Here I’d like to speak directly to young people across the Muslim world. You come from a great tradition that stands for education, not ignorance; innovation, not destruction; the dignity of life, not murder. Those who call you away from this path are betraying this tradition, not defending it….

Israelis — not “Palestinians” — are “ready to abandon the hard work of peace”:

Leadership will also be necessary to address the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis. As bleak as the landscape appears, America will never give up the pursuit of peace. The situation in Iraq, Syria and Libya should cure anyone of the illusion that this conflict is the main source of problems in the region; for far too long, it has been used in part as a way to distract people from problems at home. And the violence engulfing the region today has made too many Israelis ready to abandon the hard work of peace. But let’s be clear: the status quo in the West Bank and Gaza is not sustainable. We cannot afford to turn away from this effort – not when rockets are fired at innocent Israelis, or the lives of so many Palestinian children are taken from us in Gaza. So long as I am President, we will stand up for the principle that Israelis, Palestinians, the region, and the world will be more just with two states living side by side, in peace and security….

Another fantasy. That will never happen, because the “Palestinians'” jihad imperative will not allow it to happen.

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  1. tpellow says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    -as spoken by untrue Imam, Barack Obama.

    • mortimer says

      Sep 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm

      He’s delusional to say Islam is a religion of peace!

      5:33 – The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.

      4:89 – They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.

      9:29 – Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      Islam means ‘submission’. Fighting disbelievers to make them submit is Islam.

  2. jihad3tracker says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Obama’s brain is in the blender. We see the schizoid behavior : forced to act by ISIS pathology but obviously dragged like a dying mule into action.

    On the positive side for us JW readers, top-notch journalists & biographers are certainly competing for first-print release in BHO’s spectacular disgrace of the Oval Office.

  3. Beagle says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:35 pm

    I was in the car listening when he delivered the line about Iraq, Syria, and Libya disproving the Israeli conflict is the main source of problems in the region. In fairness, that undercuts nearly the entire worldview of everyone on the Left (and neonazis, paleocons, jihadis, etc.). They seem to think Israel causes most of the world’s problems. I was so shocked I almost swerved. That was a bit surprising.

    Of course then he spent much more time turning the screws on Israel, but let’s remind him and everyone else he once admitted the truth.

    • RCCA says

      Sep 24, 2014 at 9:26 pm

      He also said rather incredulously:

      “It is time for the world — especially Muslim communities — to explicitly, forcefully, and consistently reject the ideology of organizations like al Qaeda and ISIL.”

      He’s calling for Muslims to forcefully and definitively reject fundamentalism but Muslims are killing each other over their disagreements. Forcefully quit being so forceful!
      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/world/middleeast/isis-abu-bakr-baghdadi-caliph-wahhabi.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

      “It is one of the tasks of all great religions to accommodate devout faith with a modern, multicultural world. No children are born hating, and no children — anywhere — should be educated to hate other people. There should be no more tolerance of so-called clerics who call upon people to harm innocents because they’re Jewish, or because they’re Christian, or because they’re Muslim. It is time for a new compact among the civilized peoples of this world to eradicate war at its most fundamental source, and that is the corruption of young minds by violent ideology.”

      Obviously Obama is talking about Islam, what other religion has “clerics” or teaches children to hate others? He is clearly calling on Muslims to clean house and rid their mosques of savage violent ideology and join the civilized world. Uh oh! Contradicting himself again about Islam being a peaceful religion.

      “That means cutting off the funding that fuels this hate. It’s time to end the hypocrisy of those who accumulate wealth through the global economy and then siphon funds to those who teach children to tear it down.”

      Isn’t Obama pointing the finger at Saudi Arabia and their funding of Salafism?

      Fortunately the speech was long and wordy so no one noticed.

    • Biff H says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 2:59 am

      The situation in Iraq, Syria and Libya should cure anyone of the illusion that this conflict is the main source of problems in the region;
      —
      This statement is a lie. The Ummah has had it written on paper, nailed to a bat and beaten into their skulls that kafir cannot be allowed to rule any part of the waqf. The villain in this case is Israel but the proscription applies to any State ruled by kafir.

  4. tpellow says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    On deception about the true nature of Islam,

    Obama and Cameron are worse than were Bush and Blair.

  5. upset american says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Who in the world does he think he is fooling? ISLAM DOES NOT TEACH PEACE, IT TEACHES TO MURDER ANYONE THAT DOES NOT THINK LIKE THEM!!!!!

  6. David says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Why does he make the comments that Islam teaches peace? It’s an absurd comment and not helpful to the cause. Why doesn’t he emphasize the adoption of slavery in ISIL?

  7. Wellington says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 6:00 pm

    Islam teaches peace? Yeah, but only if you agree with what Islam says and with what Islam wants. If not, then no peace.

    Moreover, wherever Islam does get its conception of peace there will exist the stultification of the mind, the crushing of the human spirit, the pure second-class status of Muslim women in relation to Muslim men and the pure third-class status of all non-Muslims in comparison with Muslims.

    Some peace.

  8. Diane Harvey says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    At every turn he makes excuses for Islam.

    At every turn.

    To repeat,

    Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the new caliph of ISIS, has a PhD in Islamic Studies from Islamic University (in Baghdad), and is a life-long Muslim.

    Now, who knows more about Islam?

    • rev g says

      Sep 24, 2014 at 7:15 pm

      But Obama knows everything….electing him stopped the rising of the seas, remember?

    • mortimer says

      Sep 24, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      Too true. And so obvious. Obama uses his position to give authority to his pronouncements. They are no more authoritative than the shallow pontifications of first-year student.

  9. Anon says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Wow, that’s a really great photo, he looks just like an angry Imam shouting “… and for the 12th time I’m telling you Islam is a religion OF PEACE dammit…”

  10. TH says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    Y ihadism is only going to get worse in Europe, as there are now at least 3000 with European citizenship in Syria, according to the European Union. Obama who only knows how to fumble like an idiot will do nothing realisitc to solve the problem.

  11. PGuud says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    Does he think that, by repeating this asinine mantra, he is going to will Islam to a reformation? or Islam’s countless terrorists from terrorizing the world?

    Is this his attempt at comedy? Because it isn’t funny.

    Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

  12. Mark Jessup says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    Let me be brief and to the point:

    Little boy Barky is a sh*t headed fool, who is going to get a lot of Americans killed with his insane ideas.

  13. King Dave says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    I like what Obama said and has been doing against terrorism, despite the majority of his political base that blames the USA for Muslims violence now plaguing every corner of the Earth. And to lesser extent, out right support for the Islamic State

    The secular world is at war with Islam. It’s may not be politically correct to say that, but it is unambiguously so. There is no higher honor for a Muslim but to die defending their faith against the friends of Satan. And if a young Muslim reads a liberal blog on Christianity, Bush, and Israel, this is all the fodder he or she needs to book a flight to Syria to join the Islamic state in hopes of returning one day to continue the Jihad

    Call it what you want, but millions of Muslims are turning to violence and away from this elusive “peace”

  14. boakai ngombu says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    “… And when it comes to America and Islam, there is no us and them – there is only us, because millions of Muslim Americans are part of the fabric of our country….”

    THEY reject the “American way” and THEY wish SHARIAH become the Way – the straight path. THEY have migrated to the land so as to destroy what has been built by the forefathers, because SHARIAH can be made to justify what THEY do, while encouraging no understanding of what is being destroyed. THEY do not wish there to be US, especially those who deign not to obey the Allah god of Islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers).

    it is immoral to typify Americans as being unified in intent with THEM, then. the POTUS encourages lawlessness and abuses what is best in the land and then misrepresents Americans to them.

    this was a vicious misrepresentation and we should not be proud of the Commander in Chief. WE do not desire to follow Muhammad (lately contrived; full of lusts).

  15. mortimer says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Islam is at war with United States. Why? Because Islam means ‘submission’. When there is submission, there is no discussion. When there is submission, there is a commander and there is a slave. A slave cannot speak his mind.

    We are allowed to agree with SUBMISSION or keep silent. We are not allowed to question or criticize SUBMISSION.

    The basic trouble is that ISLAM IS INHERENTLY TOTALITARIAN.

    TOTALITARIAN ISLAM is real Islam. There is no democratic or pluralistic ‘submission’.

  16. somehistory says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    “There is no peace for the wicked (Isaiah 48:22; 57:21), so says the True God.”

    If islam “teaches peace,” then why are all its adherents learning war? Failing grades all around.

  17. Jack HOLAN says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    I don’t know if he believes this crap, is taking drugs , thinks we are all idiots or all three!

  18. Christine Godinet says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    In part Obama is correct.
    There should be tolerance for all faiths.
    What he is missing, is that the lack of tolerance is coming from the very faith that he holds up as the oracle of ‘Peace’.
    Wonder if he’ll ever piece the puzzle together.
    And I think when he says ‘we’ reject any suggestions of a clash of civilizations, he really means, ‘I’ reject it – cause I’m darned sure the majority of America is pretty certain there is a clash of civilizations going on here.
    Even many Muslims know there is!

  19. gravenimage says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 10:16 pm

    Obama at the UN: “United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace.”
    …………………………………

    What Obama either does not know—or does not care to convey to us—is that “peace” in Islam means that all obstacles to the spread of Islam have been removed.

    In that case, the sanguinary horror of the Islamic State could not be more “peaceful”: anyone standing in the way of Islam—Christians, Yazidis, “heretics” like the Shia, and any lax Muslim “apostates” are simply enslaved, beheaded or stoned to death.

    More:

    There should be no more tolerance of so-called clerics who call upon people to harm innocents because they are Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
    …………………………………

    What Obama does not say is that all of these clerics *are Muslim*—even those calling for Muslims to be harmed, since they are “heretics” or “apostates”.

    But hearing this, it sounds as though Christian and Jewish clerics are as likely to call for violence. What calumny.

    More:

    Look at the new Forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies – Sheikh bin Bayyah described its purpose: “We must declare war on war, so the outcome will be peace upon peace.”…
    …………………………………

    Yes—*let’s* take a look at that:

    “Obama praises as “moderate” a Muslim cleric who backed fatwa on killing of U.S. soldiers”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/obama-praises-as-moderate-a-muslim-cleric-who-backed-fatwa-on-killing-of-u-s-soldiers

    Not exactly as “peaceful” as we’ve been led to believe…

    But Obama is either willing to swallow this Taqiyya, or spread it himself.

    More:

    My fourth and final point is a simple one: the countries of the Arab and Muslim world must focus on the extraordinary potential of their people – especially the youth.
    …………………………………

    I’m afraid that is *exactly* what they are doing—but again, not quite in the sense we would like to see:

    “Children as young as 13 leaving Germany to join Islamic State’s jihad”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/children-as-young-as-13-leaving-germany-to-join-islamic-states-jihad

    More:

    Israelis — not “Palestinians” — are “ready to abandon the hard work of peace”
    …………………………………

    Disgusting. No mention that the “Palestinians” have destruction of Israel in their very charters. But Obama has a long and nasty history of turning on Israel, who is just trying to survive, while actively enabling the Jihad that would destroy her. *Ugh*.

  20. bobm says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    using a blueprint of lies Mr. Obama; will only ensure you will build a house doomed to fall.

  21. Tradewinds says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    Hussein Obama = LIAR.

    Islam does not teach peace. Our president is a liar.

  22. TH says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    Every time Obama, Kerry and the rest of them open their mouths about Islam and jihad they put theri foot in it. They would do a great service to the world if they shut up and quitted spewing out bare faced lies.
    Here is a piece by a Jesuit priest on Islam and jihad which is very clear and precise. It would be nice if Pope Francis and a good percentage of our bishops would read it and other writings like those of Robert and others who speak the truth about Islam and its true nature
    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/time-take-islamic-state-seriously#.VCGKgiLyX6Q.gmail

    Here is a quote from Churchill on Islam, which in those days was generally called Mahomedanism, which in my opinion is more correct and disliked by them.
    http://www.allaboutmuhammad.com/winston-churchillrsquos-comments-on-islam.html
    Unfortunatley there is no politician of the stature of Churchill to help save Western Civilizatin this time.

    • Lesley says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 12:55 am

      TH, I loved the Winston Churchill text. I book marked that, thank you for sharing that. Judging from the clarity and wisdom in Churchill’s writing, I can guess that Britain and France pushed for the Sykes-Picot agreement knowing that they would violate it in the end and divide the Levant. It’s self-protective to lie to dangerously crazy people. It may be their land, but the ideology of Islam is so poisonous and dangerous that these Islamist forces (ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, any other organized group of Islamists) are a clear and present danger to the civilized world. It’s like Dr. Frankenstein resurrected a whole population of 6th century goat herders, gave them all a piece of Vlad the Impaler’s brain, and set them up military arsenals and weapons… disaster!!

  23. Dave J says

    Sep 24, 2014 at 11:37 pm

    Actually this statement comes closer to condemning Islam than any so far. He denounces the indoctrination of children and calls for a repudiation of violence by mainstream Muslims.

    Maybe the motto should be changed from “submit or die” to “reform our primitive and hostile beliefs or die”.

  24. Torked says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:16 am

    The problem, “Barry” Is that Islam is at war with us. They have told us this over and over. They want to bring Shariah to the entire world, their Death Cult commands them to do this. Any actual moderate Muslim is murdered by the true believers. When one side refuses to even acknowledge there is a war, they will be the losers.

  25. Edie says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:36 am

    What a wanker. For the President of the United States to say “And never will be at war with Islam is sticking the future President(s) neck out. Never say never you dolt. Perhaps he should go live in any number of communities in England. Where the Islamists yell “Death to the police, Death to British pigs”. They have no tolerance for anyone other than Islamists. We are the infidel and better off to them DEAD. Islam is a poison seeping into the ground water of the Earth. How’s THAT for a metaphor?

  26. Lesley says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:42 am

    A thought occurred to me. Is it possible that our Western leaders’ silence on the subject of the violated Sykes-Picot agreement 90 years ago that divided up the Levant into easier to control countries is a silent acknowledgment of how crazy and dangerous Islamists are? Is it possible that behind closed doors Western leaders acknowledge how inherently dangerous Islam is, and in public they’re playing Jedi mind tricks with the Muslim world– like, if we keep telling them they’re peaceful and Islam is a religion of peace, then maybe they’ll believe it and stop being so crazy? I really hope so. I’d love to hear some opinions from others about this.

  27. pumbar says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:45 am

    Why are the people of the USA having to pay for this muppet to travel around spouting this garbage. The security bill alone must be horrendous?
    Just place a sign behind the podium with, “we have reaffirmed that the United States is not and never will be at war with Islam. Islam teaches peace” written on it and let all the journalists take some photographs. The sign could be changed to things like, “Hope and change, the audacity of change and hope” and things like that. Depending on the circumstances, obviously.
    This lunatic could then go back to playing crazy golf on the WH lawn.

  28. Norman. says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:54 am

    Does Obama and others think if they keep saying Islam is peace we will forget history and the facts.

  29. Ann Chase says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:09 am

    “And when it comes to America and Islam, there is no us and them – there is only us, because millions of Muslim Americans are part of the fabric of our country.”

    “there is only us”?!! I don’t know about American men, but “there is only us” does not apply to American women and girls and never will. American women and girls will not and cannot coexist with Islam, Muslims and Sharia – and my guess is, he is such a narcisist that he doesn’t even think about the treatment of women and girls under the barbaric and savage cult of Islam. Makes me wonder who in the WH wrote this speech…probably one of his mussie buddies who see women and girls, not as human beings, but as property, as things, as cunts. As a woman, I have to say it is shocking to see the working of his twisted little mind so clearly.

  30. Champ says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:30 am

    islam teaches peace, just like obama is a good and truthful man. Uh-huh.

  31. Salah says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:45 am

    “…we have waged a focused campaign against al Qaeda and its associated forces – taking out their leaders, and denying them the safe-havens they rely upon.”

    Al Qaeda is an offshoot of the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD whose leaders are sitting comfortably in the W.H….a very, very safe-haven they can rely upon!

  32. No Fear says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 2:51 am

    Mohammed was a Jew killer, Christian killer and Pagan killer and if there were atheists in 700AD he probably would have killed them too.

  33. ECAW says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 2:52 am

    “You come from a great tradition that stands for education, not ignorance; innovation, not destruction”

    Had to laugh. Wasn’t innovation, aka bida, put an end to around 1200AD?

  34. Joginder Singh says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 3:16 am

    islam teaches peace hmmmm I take it obama never read any history books then covering islam’s spread through Europe, the Near and Middle East, Persia, India, Asia and large parts of Southern Russia then. Though I think obama would struggle to read the timetable for his local bus route

  35. duh_swami says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 3:16 am

    Not only is Rasool a liar, but he also insults the intelligence of Americans who bothered to find out the truth of Islam. I’m sick of these insane elitists like O and Kerry, and Cameron and others lying their azzes off…I’m not sure why so many do that since only Rasool is likely to get any virgins out of it.
    How much proof do we need that he lives a double life, The President, and a stealth jihadist…

  36. Malcolm Jacksom says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 4:26 am

    Osama Obama, Muslim president of the USA.

  37. Nam Marine says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 4:34 am

    HORSESHIT !

  38. fair_dinkum says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 4:35 am

    islam has nothing to do with islam ~ Mortimer

    this breaking news.. http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/uniformed-australian-defence-force-member-allegedly-attacked-by-men-of-middle-eastern-appearance-in-western-sydney/story-fnj3rq0y-122707057338

    here we go…

  39. Kasey says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 6:40 am

    Just more taqiyya talk from someone who should know better.

  40. Always On Watch says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 7:06 am

    Will Muslim communities ever really reject the ideology of al Qaeda and the Islamic State? They haven’t yet in any way that would make even one jihadist lay down his arms and become a “moderate.”

    Ay, there’s the rub!

    If Obama’s “strategy” doesn’t work, then what? The nuclear option?

    The West has been gambling for centuries that “moderate Islam” would take hold. Overall, that clearly hasn’t happened.

  41. rappini says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 8:50 am

    Just remember everyone elections in November and in 2016 maybe we can rid of these crazy people in the White House and the some in Congress.

  42. WorldWatchman says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 9:26 am

    Out of the mouth of a muslim who hides behind the Christian name but, it’s okay because the Koran says it’s quite alright to lie to further islam no matter how you tell the lie.

  43. Prinz Eugen says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Where is congresss? Asleep again? Or just cowering in servitude and dhimnitude before khalifa Barak Hussein (hmm, hmmm, hmmmmm!)?

  44. Thinking From First Principles says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Here is the key to his mindset:

    “So we reject any suggestion of a clash of civilizations. Belief in permanent religious war is the misguided refuge of extremists who cannot build or create anything, and therefore peddle only fanaticism and hate.”

    He understands completely what is in play. If we accept that there is a clash of civilizations then we are in a permanent religious war. I’ve seen first-hand how politicians and high-level policy makers react to that thought as I have been in a position to bring it up to them – that there is no end game in the absence of addressing the fundamental beliefs that are driving the conflict, and that we need to organize Defense and State together to do so. As best I can tell, well-intentioned folks have begun attempting to change that mindset, and say these nice things so as to not turn-off the Islamic audience they want to influence. This seems to be what we keep seeing with Bush, Blair, Obama, Cameron, etc. So, in my opinion, Mr. Obama knows exactly what’s at stake. He’s hoping against hope that we can outlast Al Qaeda and the IS that Islam can evolve into the Ahmadiyya.

    • Theb Nyip says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 11:25 am

      Reducing the hold of a religion over people requires, as the European enlightenment demonstrated, a willingness to question the core beliefs of that religion.

      There are some simple questions for any citizen of a western country to ask of its leaders, or by extension, their local congressmen/parliamentarians/Senators/Lords etc – and they are:

      If IS has nothing to do with Islam, then why are only followers of Islam flocking to join it? why aren’t there 100s of Jews, Buddhists, Catholics, Protestants, Hindus, agnostics and athiests trying to join IS, carry out their atrocities and wave their black flag?

      If horrific IS actions like beheadings, crucifixions, taking of sex slaves, demanding the Jizya etc are so horrific and are against Islam then the western leaders who say that should have no hesitation condemning the founder of Islam, Mohammed, for having undertaken, or ordered his followers to undertake, exactly these same actions in the 7th Century?

      So that our immigration authorities are screening incoming visitors and potential immigrants to weed out the radicals I assume our leaders have ensured there is a questionnaire developed to distinguish between a moderate and a radical muslim? Can this questionnaire be made public?

      I assume such a questionnaire must already be in use by internal security agencies to vet employees with access to critical software – whether military, taxation, transport, social security, immigration, energy etc – to ensure there will no green on green cyber-sabotage attacks from within our bureaucracy on our countries or way of life.

      Lastly, when will our countries start prosecuting these radicals for treason?

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm

        “So that our immigration authorities are screening incoming visitors and potential immigrants to weed out the radicals I assume our leaders have ensured there is a questionnaire developed to distinguish between a moderate and a radical muslim? Can this questionnaire be made public?”

        There is no need for an actual questionnaire, when we already have the Unquestionable Template of PC MC, by which (at least) three axioms are assumed as givens whose apodictic truth are not to be questioned, for to question them is to question our “commitment to Diversity — which, pace the George Casey Dictum, is a thought crime worse than mass-murder:

        1) The vast majority of Muslims are harmless.

        2) Only blatant evidence of overt “extremism” warrants taking any measures to protect the public.

        3) Make sure your mind disconnects any instances of #2 from Islam at all times.

        Meanwhile, the sheer pressure of the reality of Muslims slowly but surely spiraling out of control with no defensible distinction between Harmless and Extremist — coupled with the residues of civic duty still operative in the hearts and minds of our public servants deformed by PC MC, whose job it is to protect us — moves our public servants to violate their own axioms in subtle ways, and thus to continue to interdict, sometimes by sheer luck and by a hairsbreadth, the jihad plots that are increasingly metastasizing as we speak.

        We won’t be able to continue this deadly-silly game of Denial & Self-Deception for much longer and avoid horrific terror attacks from erupting successfully. The day will come when the West will finally see that the distinction between Harmless and Extremist Muslims is untenable — at least on the macro scale, the scale on which public defense depends. (One measure, incidentally, that helps to explain why this awakening has been so slow in the West may be gleaned by how many even in the Counter-Jihad (with many illustrious Jihad Watch Comments veterans among them) continue to labor under the delusion of that distinction. If even some of the Canaries in the Coalmine can’t smell the coffee of the coal, then no wonder the Mainstream is so clueless.)

  45. Dave J says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:27 am

    I’d really like to see more women denounce the Islamist’s perverse and brutal treatment of 1/2 their population as slaves and possessions.

    Where is the feminist outrage – it seems as quiet as the alleged Muslim moderates?

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      According to the PC MC paradigm, Muslims are the #1 Aggrieved Minority, and so all other minorities and Leftish concerns are thrown under the bus — if they conflict with the #1 Minority. The mere act of noticing and then calling attention to the suffering of women under Islam would violate this cardinal rule of the PC MC paradigm.

      This PC MC paradigm has become dominant and mainstream throughout the West, affecting the hearts and minds of millions of all walks of life, all socioeconomic strata (ordinary people as well as “Elites”), all political persuasions (conservatives as well as liberals).

  46. katarzyna says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    obama says: “islam teaches peace”. this is why he is citing the radical cleric. he vows to destroy isil’s “brand of evil” and institute Bayyah’s “brand of evil”. and after illegal invasion in syria he is alluding he wants to attack Izrael as “the world will be more just with two states living side by side, in peace and security….
    after he attacked syria with the countries which produced and promote the ideology behind isis, I thought obama is a mule of terrorists. after his speech I think he is the another beast from Apocalypse of st. John.
    God bless America.

  47. David from England says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:21 pm

    Islam is a so called ‘religion’ of pieces! – those of its countless victims who have been blown up or beheaded. Wake up all you gutless and clueless politicians!

  48. Manuel II Paleologus says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:44 pm

    Islam was never a religion of peace. It is not at the present time and it will never a religion of peace. It is not even a religion to begin with.
    The Byzantine Emperor from the 15 century said clear: ‘tell me what else had Islam brought into this world beside murder, rape and violence?” Nothing.

  49. Manuel Paleologus says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 1:51 pm

    Obama does not know history or something else.
    The islam was never a ‘religion’ of peace. It is not and it will never be a religion of peace. The history contradict this regretable statement of our president.
    Islam does not deserve the name of religion because is not.

    This islam has brought in the world exclusively crime, rape, murder and genocide. Nothing else!

    Manuel

  50. pongidae rex says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    We are approaching the point at which the actions of our highest elected leadership in the West are so transparently at odds with reality that it borders on insanity or treason. These men are craven tools of the enemies of human spiritual freedom.

  51. Jacqui says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    Plonker,blind stupid unbelievable!

  52. marsback says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    robert you dimwit you cannot ” turnoff ” Islam , it’s what Jesus preached btw , you only selling off your salvation for show.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm

      The semiliterate marsback wrote:

      robert you dimwit you cannot ” turnoff ” Islam , it’s what Jesus preached btw , you only selling off your salvation for show.
      ……………………………….

      “Jesus”—what he means, of course, is the horrific Muslim “Isa”.

      Isa has almost nothing in common with the Jesus of the Gospels—he is not a healer or a peacemaker.

      In fact, the main role of the Islamic “Jesus” is in the last days, where he “breaks the cross and kills the pigs”—meaning he ends dhimmitude, the small, uncertain, threatened space where Christians are allowed to practice their faith under Islam.

      After this, Christians’ only choices are conversion to Islam or death.

      In other words, the main role of the Muslim “Jesus” is to *kill Christians*. *Ugh*.

    • Uncle Vladdi says

      Sep 25, 2014 at 11:10 pm

      Dear Brokeback Martian Muslim:

      Judeo-Christianity is based on the Golden Rule of Law (most simply put as Do Not Attack First) and also therefore based philosophically on the similar ideal that, between people, all is forbidden unless and until specifically allowed – i.e: I’m not allowed to do anything either TO, or FOR, you, without getting your express consent, first.

      From agreeing to this Rule, Westerners gain trust, progress, and Civilization.

      Islam is based on the exact opposite – on what I call the brazen rule of chaos (or, of crime), where you slanderously hold it’s your holy right and duty to always attack the innocent others first, (before you can be ‘inevitably’ attacked them selves) and where all is allowed unless and until it’s very specifically forbidden.

      From this, you inflict distrust, stagnation, and barbarism.

      Our philosophy and religion are lawful, while yours is criminal.

      CAPISCE?

      The Qur’an clearly and specifically tells you muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Christians are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for you “crime” of not being muslims.

      So, if and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?

      Well, let’s compare Jesus and Moe, the Founders of their respective creeds!!
      (Here’s my Top Ten, just off the top of my head!):

      1. How many babies did Jesus rape?
      2. How many slaves did Jesus take (and rape)?
      3. How many innocent merchants did Jesus torture, to get their treasure to pay his bandit armies?
      4. How many bandit armies did Jesus lead, and how many countries did they invade & enslave?
      5. How many poisoned swords named “Death!” did Jesus own and use to behead enemies?
      6. How many times did Jesus lie, say “God is the greatest deceiver!” and rob and extort people?
      7. How many people did Jesus burn out of their homes, while they were still asleep in them?
      8. How many people (who had only verbally contested his claims) did Jesus put out “hits” on?
      9. How many pregnant women did Jesus have run through with swords for doubting him?

      …and of course:

      10. How many people did your Prophit, Big Moe, heal (or resurrect)?

      😉

      • Veronica jones says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 1:07 am

        What a great comment Uncle Vladdi. The absolute truth

      • Shawn says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 8:26 am

        Christian or Muslim, I’ve never met either that didn’t twist the words of his prophets or pick and choose the parts that suited his needs best. You’re all hypocrites.

        • Dr Ron Polland says

          Oct 8, 2014 at 10:11 am

          I’ve never met a Muslim who said that Muslims do not have to follow Sharia to the letter of the Law. Either they do or they are apostates. The Qu’ran teaches Muslims to be duplicitous and hypocritical among nonbelievers.

          And, when Muslims do their taqiyya tap dance on these forums to hide that fact, claiming everyone else is a hypocrite, they are as easy to spot as month-old pond scum.

          As Allah said: “War is deceit.”

      • Dave from Essex says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        Brilliant Uncles!! I’ve kept this to show to people – those who give a damn anyways. Great post all the same!!!

    • Dajjal says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 1:16 pm

      Please be so kind as to exhibit to us the New Testament [Red Letter Edition] functional equivalents of:

      3:151, 8:12,39,57,60,65,67, 9:5,29,38, 39,111,120,123, 33:26,27, 47:4,49:15, 59:2,13, 61:10-13; Sahih Bukhari 1.7.331 & 4.52.220.

      Show us imperatives, not parables, allegories & metaphors.

      • Jack Holan says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 7:58 pm

        So you are saying Jesus preached Islam. The Jew who preached the tenets of Islam but diminished those of his own faith and the new religion created by his message. Now if you are saying Jesus’ teaching support Islam I can tell you where this stream of “thought” falls through. Jesus from my understanding was a universalist. Accepting, loving and praying for All. In Islam acceptance and the “Golden Rule” applies to Muslims only and condionally the “right” Muslims, Shia, Sunni etc. If you are Jewish or Christian the “Golden Rule” does not apply in Islam.

  53. Uncle Vladdi says

    Sep 25, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    The narcissist imagines himself President of the World giving his annual State of the World Address to the global parliament.

    Our Man Dajjal hath laid the ultimate smackdown on Obama’s latest spew of fraud and public deception HERE:

    http://snooper.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/obanination-un-shitspew/

    NJOI!!!

    😉

    • Dajjal says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 1:27 pm

      Thanks for the great promo, Unk. Rub my horns for luck. Many will blow gaskets just reading the title. The format worked better in this cross post.
      http://www.islamexposed.blogspot.com/2014/09/obamination-state-of-world-address.html 😉

      • Uncle Vladdi says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 12:04 am

        Yeah, except that posting comments there is almost impossible!

        ;-(

  54. ma says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 10:36 am

    …..and those Islamist teaching peace are called ”hypocrites” by the quran, and are to be punish hard.
    Sura 9:73.

  55. Keith says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 5:38 am

    Our Prez is the latter-day soulmate of Neville Chamberlain… naively foolish…

    And this is a poor time to have a weak leader…

  56. Fed Up says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    ISLAM, THE “RELIGION OF PEACE” :

    “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191

    “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran.” Koran 8:12

    “Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123

    “When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5

    “Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85

    “The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”… Koran 9:30

    “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33

    “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19

    “The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65

    “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28

    “Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60

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