Here again we see the same old pattern: whenever there is a jihad attack or plot, area Muslim leaders don’t say they’re going to redouble efforts to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that give rise to this sort of thing. Instead, they say that they’re victims and are guarding against retaliatory attacks from enraged bigots — retaliatory attacks that rarely, if ever, materialize. But this neatly deflects attention away from whatever responsibility they may have had to incite the jihad violence.
“Oklahoma beheading: Muslim religious leaders say Moore suspect visited local mosque,” by Carla Hinton, The Oklahoman, September 27, 2014:
…Saad Mohammad, the Islamic society’s director of news and information, said law enforcement representatives contacted his mosque during their investigation Friday….
Both Mohammad and Enchassi denounced Nolen’s actions, saying his behavior is not in keeping with Islam, which they emphasized is a religion of peace.
“He is as far away from Islam as he can be,” Mohammad said.
Mohammad told The Oklahoman that leaders of the society’s mosque decided to take extra security precautions to protect Muslims who gather there from any potential retaliatory violence.
Mohammad said anti-Muslim sentiments may have could be heightened because of the beheadings and violence overseas by ISIS.
R Cole says
On backlash against Muslims.
It is like this when the US starts the strikes against ISIS – it prepares for a backlash – because they are waging a military campaign. We are warned that ISIS members or sympathizers may conduct attacks [and one would have thought beheadings] on members of society.
Similarly – Islam is preparing for war against the non-believer – to be exact – against those who do what is forbidden – and when their faithful do venture out and put this sentiment into action – and attack others – their greatest concern is backlash – in line with the religion’s militarist mindset.
That you will see Muslim spokesperson marching out to every talk show – feigning fear of attack – after a Muslim attacks – is a reflection of their bunker mentality [that was already present].
But moreover to ensure protection of the state of the religious entity.
Islam is an encampment religion – with social, military and political elements.
The subsequent targeting of so-called ‘Islamophobia’ – should be viewed as a personal attack – that acts as a distraction.
With so many attacks – coming from Islamic institutions – in reality – it should be the government’s responsibility to pull the thing out from its roots.
Any other organisation would have been proscribed – but with religious protection – and under freedom of religion – the government is left to urge members of these communities – to work against such actions – that being to prevent or discourage its members from carrying out hostile acts against the wider community.
The only problem is – whether we believe Islam is responsible or not – these attacks keep happening.
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@ Muslims turn up to Oklahoma beheading press conference shout Praise Allah and read passages from the Koran – bystander reports.
UneasyOne says
Unless they publicly renounce the life and actions of their violent, lying,slaver, rapist pedophile pedophile prophet, they are an inflexible obstacle to constitutional government, free speech and democracy in all it’s forms. Sharia law is simply incompatible with cinstitutional government and democracy, yet it is inextricable with the muslim faith.
Not only did Mohammed marry a girl of six lunar years (About 5 /2 of our years) he penetrated her at age 9 – 8 of our years. He demanded and received his pick and 20% of the females, women and children. Only a naive fool in complete denial could doubt that he raped as many of those boys and girls as he was physically able. It was permitted, as was everything else Mohammed wanted to do.
He was a conqueror who stole – he got 20% and first pick of all other booty too. He killed, he maimed, he tortured and he murdered captives for the express purpose of enslaving their women and children. //This is the front man for the religion of peace.
It simply doesn’t matter what the Koran says ; Mohammed, the prophet, the perfect man, blessed by god, set the example. There is no need any more to lett muslims confuse the issue by quoting more pacific verses from the early days before Mo had power. WE HAVE THE EXAMPLE IF HIS LIFE!!
iT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT THE KORAN SAYS WHEN YOU HAVE THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF GOD’S WILL, GUIDED BY AN ANGEL HE could literally do no wrong,
All who condemn Mohammed are blasphemers. If muslim, they are apostate. All who follow Mohammed’s example will be blessed with endless beautiful and compliant virgins in the afterlife.
The rantings of scholars are just noise.
THE ONLY PEACE RECOGNIZED BY ISLAM IS WHEN ALL UNBELIEVERS COMPLETELY ACCEPT ISLAM EITHER AS CONVERTS OR COMPLETE SUBMISSION TO ISLAMIC LAW – WHICH IS FUNDAMENTALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY AND CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT, NOT TO MENTION FREE SPEECH.
We will either fight and defeat them or surrender to them; there is no other choice.
We need to drive them out, now.
jihad3tracker says
Hello to R Cole & UneasyOne — THX for nailing down the essence of Islam, Muhammad, and FACTS about that violent pathology — which has been called correctly a “gang religion”.
Here are more resources to deepen knowledge :
http://www.citizenwarrior.com / http://www.inquiryintoislam.com / http://www.thereligionofpeace.com / http://www.barenakedislam.com / http://www.answeringislam.com / http://www.pamelageller.com
The FIRST TWO websites help GENTLY introduce well-intentioned but yet clueless family and friends to reality — regarding what Islam intends for Infidels.
As we see from the Oklahoma beheading, ISIS media campaigns are succeeding at remarkable speed. It is WAY OVERDUE for us to educate sweet aunt Mabel & uncle Fred — who live in an equivalent of sheriff Andy Taylor’s long ago Mayberry fiction.
After Sunday school and a slice of apple pie, take them aside out of the grandkids’ attention. Find a polite way of saying “WTF are you nice folks thinking ?” I will let you take customize the message from there on . . .
occupant 9 says
You’re correct about what the *expected* “backlash” reveals: a militaristic mindset … odd for a “religion of peace.”
Joan in Houston says
Indeed, yes! ((When I was a teen, my Mom taught me always, always, to consider the source of any statement.))
Audrey says
So…they’re already getting a jump on the victim-card…
Angemon says
You what the police should do when faced with such a request? Flat out say “No, we trust americans to be law-abiding people who don’t take justice into their own hands”, and then set up vigilance. Chances are that an attack would take place, perpetrated by mosque-goers eager to fake persecution.
I'm not stupid says
Islam is *not* a religion of peace. The Koran says it’s okay to lie to people to make them believe what you want. They’re trying to fool us.
occupant 9 says
Unfortunately, there are an abundance of people among us who prefer to be stupid. Being stupid about Islam keeps the obvious concrete conclusion about Islam at bay, never to be encountered, never to be acted on.
Being stupid at the policy level means never having to actually defend the nation, for that is the cardinal PC crime.
We aren’t allowed to “enjoy” our nation’s accomplishments without sharing them with all those whose despise us, body and soul, exactly for those accomplishments.
kikorikid says
The Quran does say, “Use ALL strategems of War”, to lie
is quite acceptable and encouraged in the furtherance of Islam.
TAQIYYA.
pdxnag says
It looks like this is a perfect case for the big guns, you know, Morris Dees from the Southern Poverty Law Center. He could fly in to do for the family of this victim what he did for the family of Mulugeta Seraw. He could bankrupt the Mosque. The family could take possession of it, and level it.
Rob Crawford says
Dees is more likely to sue the victims’ families for inciting the poor man to such a rage.
john spielman says
the family should SUE the mosque for teaching that islamic supremicism and that it allows such violence against unbelievers. The mosque was directly responsible for this murder! Just like the KKK was sued into bankrupcy so should islam be sue into bankupcy
Steve says
Plain and simple: Islam is a way of life based on LIES. The moon god is a lie and the greatest of deceivers. Muhammed was a murderer, liar, pedophile and thief. What else would you ever expect from the followers? Lies, lies and more lies. We need to expose their lies wherever possible and this is a good start. Beheading is what islam teaches!!!! Oh muslim, oh muslim stop lying to us, we know your fruit and it is rotten to the core no matter how to try to dress it up.
Joan in Houston says
I have a hard time believing that anyone would give even one gram of credence to anything that Mohammed has had to say, given his despicable biography. Let us all keep in mind that many of the Muslim territories are inhabited by illiterate tribes and illiterate peoples, who do not know better than to believe everything their supposedly religious leaders preach.
Jacksonl03 says
““He is as far away from Islam as he can be,” Mohammad said.”
What . . . ? They’ve outlawed the Koran?
occupant 9 says
Well, if Islam is a, er, THE “religion of peace,” it would only be logical to necessarily disconnect Islam from anything routinely barbaric done in the name of Islam, by Muslims.
That these Muslims follow Islam to the letter should not concern anyone, and if it does … bigot, bigot, bigot! Oh, and racist!
It might help to remember that Islam as little to do with violence as the sun has to do with sunshine.
kikorikid says
Obama said, “ISIL is not Islamic. NO religion teaches the murder of innocents.” He neglected to say that in Islam, the only “Innocents” are “Believers”. EVERYBODY else is subject to the sword.
kereru says
He neglected to say that in Islam, the only “Innocents” are “Believers”. EVERYBODY else is subject to the sword.
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True, but it goes beyond that. The only ‘innocents’ are those who belong to your particular faction of Islam. Witness the Sunni/Shia antgonism and mutual kill-fest, for example.
It’s a fact that more Muslims are killed by other Muslims than by the despised kufr.
abad says
And our fearless leader in the White House has been silent about this whole incident so far. I wonder why. Hmmm…..what’s that saying? Birds of a feather flock together? Yep.
john spielman says
obama is the enabler of this violence by refusing to name islam as the enemy of democracy and by his obvious support of it through his speeches (“the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam”)
Roha Waha says
Burn It Down !
pdxnag says
Let Morris Dees win it for the surviving victim and the family of the killed girl, and then let them burn it down in a fire department training exercise.
Joan in Houston says
Hmmm! The Islamists claiming VICTIM status…… Horrors!!
Edward Cline says
Just once — just once — I’d like to see Muslims and these imams really get a taste of their own medicine in this country. Call it retaliatory, if you like, but these people need to be really shaking in their boots (or sandals) instead of pretending to be “victims.” The “retaliatory” ploy is getting really, really old. Can’t they think of anything fresh, new, and equally specious?