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Oklahoma: Muslim beheads coworker, had tried to convert colleagues to Islam

Sep 26, 2014 12:07 pm By Robert Spencer

KOCO-Alton-Nolen-imgYet another jihad attack in the U.S. Watch for the spin, the denial, and the obfuscation. Watch for stories about how Oklahoma Muslims are afraid of a “backlash.” Watch for the coming mainstream media reports about how the Vaughan Foods plant was rife with “Islamophobia.” Not that this has anything to do with Islam, and of course it is not terrorism.

“Man Beheads Woman At Food-Processing Plant,” Sky News, September 26, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):

A man has beheaded a woman at a food-processing plant in Oklahoma, police have confirmed.

Police said the suspect, who had just been fired, launched into the knife attack at a food-processing plant in Moore on Thursday afternoon.

Alton Nolen, 30, decapitated one woman before he was shot by another employee at Vaughan Foods while actively stabbing a second woman.

The man who shot Nolen was an off-duty reserve police officer, Mark Vaughn, who was chief operating officer at the business.

Moore Police spokesman Jeremy Lewis said the suspect “recently started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the Muslim faith”. The FBI are involved in the investigation.

The first victim was identified as 54-year-old Colleen Hufford.

Mr Lewis told Friday morning’s press conference: “He did kill Colleen and he did sever her head.”

Nolen and the second victim, 43-year-old Traci Johnson, were both in a stable condition, said police.

Mr Lewis said Mr Vaughn was a “hero” for shooting Nolen.

“It could have gotten a lot worse,” he added. “This guy (Nolen) was definitely not going to stop.”

There were said to be several hundred employees inside the warehouse at the time of the attack.

According to the state department of corrections, Nolen was convicted in 2011 of marijuana possession, intent to distribute cocaine, escape from detention and assault on a police officer.

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  1. rev g says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    Another blood thirsty mosque-ito.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 8:18 pm

      Compare this photo of Alton Nolen with a picture of Obama — do you notice one BIG similarity ?

      • john spielman says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 9:47 pm

        no doubt if Obama had a son…..

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 9:53 pm

          john spielman
          Do you really need to stoop that low.

          This is about Islam.
          Do you wish to let Islam slither underfoot while you toss out your fishing line full of off-topic race-bait.

        • john spielman says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 7:33 am

          Jy Boo; The obamantion is the ENABLER of islam. muslims will do what muslims have always done; murder steal lie rape because their pseudo prophet was all the above and worse. The only way that islam can triumph over the US is to forbid speaking the truth about how evil it is. AND THAT IS JUST WHAT the OBAMANTION HAS DONE!

        • Mirren10 says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 4:24 pm

          ”no doubt if Obama had a son…..”

          I’m waiting for him to say exactly that, John. Or, cue camoron; ”this has nothing to do with islam”.

          Although maybe this time, a horrific *beheading* will be too much, even for him.

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 9:48 pm

        Get with the program jihad3tracker
        This is not about the supposed ” appearance” of Obama.

        one BIG similarity ?
        Dude
        You really need to work on that.

        • Eels says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 2:48 am

          Thanks jayboo for calling out the two posts above. They are disgusting.

          No doubt if Obama had a son he would be about as far from doing something as horrid as this as I am. Don’t need racism on here. it iis counterproductive,

        • Eels says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 2:49 am

          counterproductive, wrong and completely out of place.

        • john spielman says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 9:04 am

          thebigger problem in the west is NOT islam BUT THE ENABLERS who allow and encourage it. Obamma is not only encouraging islam with his speechs- like that the future must not belong to those who slander muhammed, but REFUSING to even name them as the ENEMY of America and the free world in US government proclamations against terror attacks.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm

          Yes—this has nothing to do with race.

          There are many vicious Jihadists of all ethnicities, and they are all a danger to us.

          And Obama *is* an appalling enabler of Jihad—but this has nothing to do with race. There are others who are just about as bad who have very different ethnic backgrounds.

          Ultimately, neither Islam nor dhimmitude are a race.

      • Mirren10 says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 4:26 pm

        ”Compare this photo of Alton Nolen with a picture of Obama — do you notice one BIG similarity ?”

        His ears ?

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 4:36 pm

          Nice try Mirren10
          on both comments

          Not unexpected of you

        • john spielman says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:07 pm

          jay Boo : YOU can’t seem to understand that muslims have ALWAYS acted like the murderer above with beheadings in the name of allah/Satan. What you can’t seem to grasp is that this problem has come to us now because of enablers , collaborators, traitors -what ever one may call them. the Obamantion is the most evil of them all. Remember ” the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam” this just emboldens our enemies

  2. rev g says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    scary

  3. Angemon says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    So… Workplace violence that had nothing to do with islam, like the Fort Hood shooting?

    • Larry S says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 12:49 pm

      Just one of those odd coincidence, Angemom.

      Why I once had a colleague who was Southern Baptist Convention. He tried to convert me. Whew- that was a close call. Looking back on it, I was fortunate to have escaped with my life.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 4:21 pm

        Yes, Larry—lots of idiots would pretend that this is just the same thing.

        • Guest says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:44 am

          Flew right over your head, didn’t it?

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 3:52 pm

          No, it didn’t, Guest. I knew Larry was being sarcastic, and I said as much.

      • Richard says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 6:55 pm

        With more than 200,000 dead in the last 3 years alone, this is obviously VERY different. I’m Baptist by the way, so please let me know if someone actually tried to kill you. Thanks!

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 1:18 am

          Richard, Larry is being sarcastic.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 2:41 pm

      Call me an overly optimistic old fool if you want to — but I really think this event will be the beginning of an irreversible awakening of the Sheeple.

      Even the most cloudy American minds will realize that “If this could happen in Oklahoma, it can also happen in my town.”

      • Beagle says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        Never underestimate the ability of our major institutions to snooze any and all “wake-up calls” concerning Islam.

        • David says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 7:06 pm

          I almost never watch the MSM but I saw NBC News today. They didn’t even mention that the perpetrator was a Muslim.

      • Sam says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 8:43 pm

        You are wrongly optimistic. The liberal population will not wake up even if there is a beheading every day in USA by a Muslim. They are convinced that America is at fault for interfering in world affairs and stealing resources from other countries. That is the reason for all the ills of the world they think. That mindset will not change and will result (already is) in destruction of civilized nations for centuries. Here is a pessimistic view and more realistic one I believe.

      • Mirren10 says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 7:08 pm

        ”Even the most cloudy American minds will realize that “If this could happen in Oklahoma, it can also happen in my town.”

        I really, really hope you’re right, jihad3tracker. but it certainly didn’t wake up the UK. After the initial horror of Lee Rigby’s murder, it was back to sleep for the majority.

    • Fr. Basil says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      Whether violence and beheading have anything to do with mahometanism is beside the point.

      THIS mahometan–and so many others–believe they do.

      • Tradewinds says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

        No, it’s not “beside the point.” Beheading is Islamic:

        “When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks…” – Koran 47:4

        Muhammad was a beheader. He beheaded the Jews in 7th century Arabia. Basil – you should go back to your Islamic studies. That beheading is Islamic is ENTIRELY THE POINT.

        • blitz2b says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 5:53 pm

          Tradewinds, Don’t mind this “Fr. Basil” He is simply a cantor singing the same tune of his hierarchal superior, Pope Francis who unashamedly said, “Authentic Islam and the proper reading of the Koran are opposed to every form of violence”.

        • Tradewinds says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm

          The Pope doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It’s incredible we have this Goebbelsian propaganda going on about Islam, and from a Pope, no less.

      • larry s says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 9:58 pm

        I do not think it is beside the point. If it were simply a case of people misunderstanding the peaceful message of Islam, then it would be much easier to reform Islam. As it is, the hatred that inhere’s in Islam makes it a far more difficult ideology to redeem.

        And even if Islam were to take a more moderate turn, because violence is built into the founding texts, the risk of return to the radicalism so in evidence today would be great. This is quite different to Christianity in which the sacred texts militated
        against violence.

        Just my two cents, which aren’t worth a dime.

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      Don’t you know Islam is never responsible for anything? It’s all the fault of “islamophobia!”

  4. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    “…single out the disbelieving American …… Smash his head with a rock, or slaughter him with a knife, or run him over with your car, or throw him down from a high place, or choke him, or poison him.”
    So says Islamic State press release.
    Any connection?

    • Beagle says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Paraphrasing from memory Bin Laden’s 1998 fatwa:

      “…the ruling is to kill Americans and their allies, civilian and military, in any nation it is possible to do so…”

      Phrased as a sharia legal ruling, but the Left says sharia is harmless and it’s racist to oppose it.

    • Lesley says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:10 pm

      When will our government wake up? I can’t believe this was classified as ‘workplace violence’. I really do consider myself a liberal at heart (I believe in the inherent goodness of people, I believe that government should make provisions to take care of the least of us), but I do not think that Muslims have any place in the West. I don’t think that practice of Islam should be allowed here. It should not be afforded the same protections that other religions have. I no longer consider Islam to be a religion. It is a cult springing from lethal ideology.

      We’re really in some deep doo doo unless our leaders turn the ship around and change course FAST. I’ve written to just about everyone I can think of to write to: President Obama, John Kerry, John McCain (to say thank you– I think he gets it to a degree)… I can tell that a lot of people are waking up to the present dangers, but most of our leaders are in a fog of delusion. I’m less scared of Islamist violence than I am of our leaders’ ignorance and assertions that Islam is a religion of peace. WTF??

  5. Don McKellar says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    How many more will die? How many more terror plots will be hatched? How many more will succeed? Before our “leaders” start speaking the truth about Islam and the monsters among us — on the edge of going barking mad and murdering in the name of their prophet at any time? Will it take 100 beheadings? 1000? A 100 jihad bombings? 1000?

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      Don, apparently in the 21st century Islam has carte blanche to commit any atrocities it wants – and no one but Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugs says a frickin’ word. Including the president of the United States, except to proclaim barbaric mass-murdering beheading Islam “peaceful.”

      • St. Patrick says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 8:00 pm

        Here’s more sites for you tw..
        Gatesofvienna.
        Barenakedislam.
        Pislamonauseacentral.
        Vladtepes.
        Blazingcatfur.

        Ta ta

        • St. Patrick says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 8:10 pm

          Oh and of course libertygb.
          Geert wilders.
          Elisabeth Sabbaditsch Wolff.
          Frank Gaffney.

  6. DJM says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    “… the Vaughan Foods plant was rife with ‘Islamophobia.'”

    Of course, it was. Nolan invited them to convert or die, and like the Islamophobes they are, they rejected allah.

  7. mls says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:05 pm

    One thing they don’t mention is that the two women were white. Shouldn’t the residents of Moore, OK (which is 97% white) be rioting and looting to show their moral outrage? Where’s Holder and Obama? I haven’t heard a peep out of either of them. Oh that’s right if it’s black on white than clearly racism is not involved, so they’re not involved!

  8. Walter Sieruk says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:12 pm

    Such murderous actions by that Muslim who was engaging in the teachings of the Quran., 9:11, 47:4. is terrible and awful indeed. Such a such a bloodthirsty religion as Islam can be described as a death cult. Belief is Islam with its instructions towards violence and death result in the outcomes by violent people who engage in murder. Sadly this tragic and heinous act of murder is the fruit of Islam. Moreover, Jesus did teach “By their fruit you will recognize them.”
    Matthew 7:20. [N.I.V.]

  9. dlbrand says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    ‘ said it oftentimes before, state it again now: wherever Islam is practiced, Islam will be practiced.

    This is nothing more or less than Islam in practice.

    For such reasons and more, I assert, only fools reason we need welcome and thus allow the practice of Islam in our nation.

    This—this beheading–is that faith in practice, in action.

  10. Transmaster says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:37 pm

    Isn’t it a good thing there was somebody armed who sent this Islamic thug to goat paradise. Just think of all of the money this off-duty reserve police officer saved the taxpayer. You would have had some BOZO lawyer to defend Nolan accusing the whole world of being racist, making him out to be the victim. The Police officer should be awarded a finders fee.

    • Sheltiebrat says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Nolan is alive and well (as well as can be under the circumstances), and poised to use your tax dollars at a dizzying rate.

      • Champ says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm

        Good: capital punishment is legal in the state of Oklahoma. And good riddance to bad rubbish!

        • dlbrand says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 2:57 pm

          Indeed.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 4:32 pm

          Is it legal in Oklahoma to burn camel piss drinkers at the stake for blasphemy?
          …………………………..

          More creepy stuff from “Michael”.

          It is illegal to murder innocent people here in the civilized West—we don’t execute people for “blasphemy”, nor do we burn people at the stake.

          Our issue with violent Muslims is intimidation and murder, not whether or not they drink camel urine.

        • John C. Barile says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 4:50 pm

          I have my issues some with other posters, too, gravenimage.

  11. Transmaster says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:42 pm

    OH NO! I know what happened Nolan had to work with non-Halal foods oh the humanity!!!!!, oh the Islamophobia.

  12. Chabuco says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    What’s his Muslim name?

    Again the Goebbelsian media whitewashing yet another terror attack in US soil.

  13. wildjew says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm

    I am going to stick my neck out (no pun intended) and make a prediction about America’s future. In years to come I would expect many of America’s cities to look like London and Paris. We will see Muslims shouting “Allahu Akbar” and slogans like “death to the Jews” (later, “death to Christians”) in the streets like we see in London and Paris. I expect in the years to come (maybe a couple or so decades) Iran / Islam will have hundreds, maybe thousands of nuclear weapons and devices that will be distributed to cells in the U.S. and Europe; ICBMs aimed at European and American cities. One day it is conceivable in event nuclear weapons are detonated in American cities, Muslim mobs will be going house to house plundering, raping, beheading, mutilating non-Muslims. Is this too hard to imagine?

    “Muslim Immigration to U.S. is on the Rise

    “A new report shows a significant rise in Muslim immigration to the US. The Pew Forum has analyzed the results and found that over the past 20 years, around one million immigrants have been granted permanent residency status every year.

    • Davegreybeard says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 2:31 pm

      @wildjew
      “One day it is conceivable in event nuclear weapons are detonated in American cities, Muslim mobs will be going house to house plundering, raping, beheading, mutilating non-Muslims. Is this too hard to imagine?”

      In Europe maybe.

      But in America, we are armed to the teeth, thanks to our Second Amendment and the tireless efforts of the NRA to protect it.

      Should such a scenario as you describe begin to unfold here, I would predict the “plundering, raping, beheading” Muslim mobs would be quickly hunted to extinction.

      My fellow American Infidels, if you do not yet have a gun, then acquire one straightaway and learn how to use it.

      Time is short, hordes of Islamozombies may depend on you for their ticket to Jannat.

      Deus Vult!

      • Twostellas says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:09 pm

        You are correct. Truckloads of jihadist Muslims trying to rape, plunder, and murder going down my street wouldn’t go down well, at all, for them. They’d be shot to hell before they even got the akbar out of their mouths.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm

        Hello Dave — My alternate alias around the web is “2nd Amendment Dem”. You are right on the money about all of us who possibly can do so getting training and a suitable self defense gun.

        And there is often a misconception that concealed carry permits require lengthy expensive “live fire” combat trainer courses. NOT TRUE IN MANY STATES. There are video equivalents priced from about $20 up to $80 or so.

        (Check with the local clerk of the court where each of you JW readers here lives.)

        Remember too that concealed carry does NOT necessarily mean wearing the weapon in a holster on the body. It could alternatively be in a backpack or bookbag — something carried everyday.

        This subject is WAY bigger than adequate coverage here in comments. Use the internet search tools for the guys who really know what they are talking about

        Please visit and buy from a gen-u-wine brick & mortar firearms shop owner — even if that involves a couple hours of driving on a Saturday or Sunday.

        Don’t take for eternally guaranteed our U.S. freedom to purchase and use these tools of modern counter-jihad. It’s only a matter of time until we encounter the wisdom of this old saying : Better to have a gun and not need one — than to need a gun and not have one.

      • dlbrand says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm

        “My fellow American Infidels, if you do not yet have a gun, then acquire one straightaway and learn how to use it.”

        Indeed.

        Wake up, America, you are at war.

        Your home, workplace, shopping place, learning centers, highways and byways, all those places and more, fair-game for the battlefield of choice for the execution of the creative innovative attacks delivered by the hands of the “believers.”

        • jihad3tracker says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 4:29 pm

          Here is a link to the concealed carry video course website that I used to get my permit — http://www.virginiaguntraining.com/

          When I successfully passed the question / answer exam and paid $20, a PDF containing my certificate of completion arrived at my email address.

          I printed that, filled out my local county’s Clerk of the Court application, paid $50, and in roughly 30 days my CCW permit arrived — a business card size item which is RECOMMENDED TO BE LAMINATED for durability.

          To repeat : every state and county in the U.S. sets their own rules and costs. There may be a waiting list — especially now that an ISIS clone popped up in the Heartland of America. GET OFF YOUR COMFY ASSES ! ! !

          We are seeing just the start of open active jihad — Muhammad’s heirs are in this for keeps. ISIS blew the “stealth” disguise to smithereens.

      • wildjew says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm

        Davegreybeard, my guess is like me you live in a rural part of your county, outside the city limits. Out here where I live most people own firearms. I don’t know what it is like in the big cities, New York, Orlando, Miami, Los Angeles, Chicago, Denver, Boston, etc.

        • Beagle says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 5:04 pm

          In Florida concealed weapons permits require a class and background check. They are very common. Home invasions often have a happy ending and require no trial. Neither Orlando nor Miami has restrictive Bloombergian legislation.

          OKC cop spokesman actually said mujahid was trying to convert people. I guess no feds have given him his talking points yet. CAIR lawsuit in 3…2…

        • Beagle says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 5:12 pm

          Moore, not OKC.

          Bob Beckel is trying to spin beheading as a prison gang NOI thing based on nothing. Never mind the many beheading ayats in the Quran. Not sure he is aware of them anyway.

    • dlbrand says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:16 pm

      Indeed wildjew.

      I’ve stated it often, in brief, when face to face with Islam, one, be that nation or individual, either bows to it, either by embracing it or accepting its supremacy and ones subservience to it, or blood flows.

      Anyone who believes things have been and will be absent that here in the U.S. of A. is dreaming.

      The “believer” partaking in this conflict has one goal in mind: making Allah’s word the supreme law of the land, his din the superior din. Each believer doing whatever he can, as best he can to bring those goals to fruition is the Allah-given duty of each respective believer.

      Thus all-one-can-do, the basic Qur’an and sunnah established Rules of engagement.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 4:38 pm

      You left out biological and chemical terror attacks. It is reasonable to suppose that innumerable Muslims we cannot pinpoint and distinguish from seemingly harmless Muslims are applying themselves as assiduously as army ants toward that end. They will be more likely to succeed to the extent that our society trusts the majority of Muslims among us who, by the way, are ostensibly showing no signs of suspect behavior (other than being Muslim). Thus, to better protect our society from horrific terror attacks and the kind of increasing civil violence wildjew describes in the coming decades, we will have to implement measures based upon prejudicial suspicion of all Muslims.

      • Tradewinds says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 4:56 pm

        Due to the Jihad doctrine in Islam all Muslims are potential Jihadists.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 5:38 pm

        How do you propose to identify the Nu’aym Bin Mas’uds?

        Those, of non-Muslim background, who would *conceal* their conversion to Islam?

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 8:39 pm

          How do you propose to identify the Nu’aym Bin Mas’uds?

          Those, of non-Muslim background, who would *conceal* their conversion to Islam?

          That’s a curious question for a seasoned Jihad Watcher to ask in light of my post which the question is responding to. Two things make it curious:

          1) The question seems to imply that a much-needed project to manage a horrible problem must be perfect, else it should not be implemented. So what if a refreshingly reasonable Operation Broad Brush were implemented to deal with the problem of Muslims, but then an indeterminate small number of Muslims managed to slip through the cracks? Apparently, dumbledoresarmy things that such imperfections in a project makes that project questionable. I, on the contrary, think that such hypothetical imperfections merely make the project normal (i.e., not perfect, like everything else in life).

          2) The second curious thing is that dumbledoresarmy is intelligent enough to answer her own question; so why did she ask me? How would any intelligent person or group of person in charge of such a project figure out ways to handle the contingency of Muslims who pretend or try to hide their Islamic identity? Well, they would like any other normatively intelligent person, once that normatively intelligent person has fully grasped the dimensions of the problem.

          Me thinks dumbledoresarmy, like so many Jihad Watchers, hasn’t fully grasped the dimensions of the problem (operative words: “fully” and “dimensions” — not so much “problem” per se).

        • Angemon says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 6:18 am

          voegelinian posted:

          “That’s a curious question for a seasoned Jihad Watcher to ask in light of my post which the question is responding to”

          It’s only curious if you don’t even know what you wrote. Here’s a reminder:

          “he majority of Muslims among us who, by the way, are ostensibly showing no signs of suspect behavior (other than being Muslim).. Thus, to better protect our society from horrific terror attacks and the kind of increasing civil violence wildjew describes in the coming decades, we will have to implement measures based upon prejudicial suspicion of all Muslims.”

          DDA’s question is “the obvious question”, not “a curious question”. You claim that the only sign of suspect behaviour is being muslim. How do you propose to identify suspects when you want to punish (what you claim to be) the only suspect behaviour? It stands to reason that measures depending on prejudicial suspicious of all those belonging to a certain demographic (in this particular case, muslims) are rendered worthless if all members of said demographic take steps to avoind being identified as belonging to said demographic.

          “1) The question seems to imply that a much-needed project to manage a horrible problem must be perfect, else it should not be implemented.”

          Nope. At most, the question implies a “Considering that muslims can simply pretend they’re not muslims, what is there to be gained from your suggestion”?

          “So what if a refreshingly reasonable Operation Broad Brush were implemented to deal with the problem of Muslims, but then an indeterminate small number of Muslims managed to slip through the cracks?”

          What’s implied here is that it’s not ok to have muslims because they can be terrorists but it’s ok to have terrorists as long as you don’t know they’re muslims. On which grounds are you speculating that only a “small number” of muslims would “slip through the cracks”?

          “ I, on the contrary, think that such hypothetical imperfections merely make the project normal”

          So your solution to having islamic terrorists in your country is OK even though if it were to be implemented it’s very likely you’d still have islamic terrorists? Note that you can’t quantify how many possible terrorists are there before or after your “solution” – one could reasonably argue a case for your solution worsening the islamic terrorist issue.

          “2) The second curious thing is that dumbledoresarmy is intelligent enough to answer her own question; so why did she ask me?”

          DDA’s asking about a flaw in your “solution”. Why should she ask anyone else?

          “How would any intelligent person or group of person in charge of such a project figure out ways to handle the contingency of Muslims who pretend or try to hide their Islamic identity? Well, they would like any other normatively intelligent person, once that normatively intelligent person has fully grasped the dimensions of the problem.”

          You prefer to tell DDA “someone will think of something” rather than answering her pertinent question regarding a gaping flaw in your “solution”? That just shows your baseness and dishonesty.

          Or maybe you can’t face the implications of, let alone answer, DDA’s question because you’re not a “normatively intelligent person” who “has fully grasped the dimensions of the problem”.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 2:04 pm

          I’ve bookmarked this thread and titled it “Reason #1000 why I feel betrayed and frankly sickened by most fellow Jihad Watchers–their failure for the umpteenth time to take Angemon to task following on their failure for umpteen times to take Phillip Jihadski to task when he was clomping his muddy boots around in JW threads”.

          I realize it’s a long title for a bookmark; but it’s worth it.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 2:14 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “I’ve bookmarked this thread and titled it “Reason #1000 why I feel betrayed and frankly sickened by most fellow Jihad Watchers–their failure for the umpteenth time to take Angemon to task following on their failure for umpteen times to take Phillip Jihadski to task when he was clomping his muddy boots around in JW threads”.”

          Since when are other JWers tasked with answering questions directed at you and regarding what you post?

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 29, 2014 at 2:25 pm

          And apropos of my “reason #1000”, there’s this recent thread where the JW regulars are present, helping Angemon out with Mazo, but doing nothing to help me with Angemon’s tortured logic that would defend our continued weakness in the face of the Mohammedan danger (and Neil Jennison chiming in with outrageous insults against me), spread out over a few comments apiece:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/greek-bishop-your-children-will-surely-be-slaves-of-muslims/comment-page-1#comment-1126078

        • Angemon says

          Sep 30, 2014 at 2:02 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “And apropos of my “reason #1000″, there’s this recent thread where the JW regulars are present, helping Angemon out with Mazo, but doing nothing to help me with Angemon’s tortured logic that would defend our continued weakness in the face of the Mohammedan danger (and Neil Jennison chiming in with outrageous insults against me), spread out over a few comments apiece”

          My “tortured logic that would defend our continued weakness in the face of the Mohammedan danger”? Is that how you’re going to label an inquiry into your anti-constitutional self-proclaimed “solution” (which, by your own admission, doesn’t actually solve anything)? Gee, I wonder why aren’t other users rushing to defend you and your seditious ideas…

          It is worth noticing that voeg’s issue seems to be not with what I say but with not having other speaking out for him against me – that’s a recurring red-herring. Why should they when I’m inquiring him about his ideas?

          Now, are you going to answer DDA’s pertinent question or not? How would you propose to identify closet muslims? I’m starting to think your alleged preoccupation stems from some sort of amorphous antipathy towards muslims rather than the deadly danger of terrorism and other forms of jihad violence (reasonably presumed to be metastasizing and not stable).

    • abad says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:53 pm

      WHY are we allowing these murderous Muslims into our nation? They all need to be banned from entering – our Muslim President is no help he is not doing a damn thing to protect us. He gives his allegiance to Allah NOT the Constitution like he is supposed to!!!

      • Tradewinds says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 11:08 pm

        Muslim immigration to America should have been stopped on September 12, 2001. But instead we keep letting the enemy in. It’s un-fricking believable what’s happening.

  14. joeb says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    “However, it is not clear if his beliefs had any link to the attack.”

    wonderful stuff…

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:33 pm

      13 years after 9/11 that PC BS is still what we get.

      • dlbrand says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 1:59 am

        Indeed.

        It has been the mainstay serving of the day for the lion’s share of those 13 years.

  15. islamisdeath says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    Oklahoma where the police officer was suspended, fired?, for not going to a mosque. Well it has started, cutting our heads off at will.

    He is probably just mentally ill and will get sentenced to psychiatric treatment. OMG will the workplace violence never end?

  16. Jacksonl03 says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 2:14 pm

    “According to the state department of corrections, Nolen was convicted in 2011 of marijuana possession, intent to distribute cocaine, escape from detention and assault on a police officer.”

    And he spent less than three years in the jug? What the hell . . . ?

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      I would like to know whether he converted to Islam in jail. I think there is quite a high probability of that.

      If so, surely a case must be made for infidel countries keeping Muslim prisoners separate from non-Muslim prisoners in jail, so as to prevent them from converting the non-Muslims (many of whom will be attracted to Islam precisely because it appeals to all their basest instincts, but others of whom may be bullied into it, joining the in-prison Allah Gang – the worst of all the Gangs – merely in order to survive).

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 29, 2014 at 4:27 pm

        Your suspicions were spot on, DDA:

        “Report: OK Beheading Suspect Converted to Islam in Prison”

        http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/09/26/Report-OK-Beheading-Suspect-Converted-to-Islam-in-Prison

  17. Champ says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 2:21 pm

    NEVER trust a muslim.

    • Champ says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      And if a muslim tries to convert you to islam, then consider him (or her) dangerous and report this person to the police; and perhaps mention this news story.

      • somehistory says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        If you report the attempted conversion to the police, you will be viewed as the one who is in the wrong as there is no *crime* on the books for attempted conversion. There may soon be if one is attempting to convert a muslim to another religion, but even that is not yet listed on the books.
        But if a muslim is attempting conversion, then the victim of said conversion should definitely be on the watch for further islam related incidents, including violence that could lead to death.

        I do feel bad for the lady who was killed and for the other one who would have been if not for the man with the gun who knew how to use it.

        • somehistory says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 3:09 pm

          Should have written “victim of attempted conversion.”
          I have been a victim, as I have reported on JW before. He didn’t kill me, but did attack my belongings.

        • somehistory says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 3:12 pm

          My apologies re: the remark about the attempted conversion I experienced. My brain is on overload. Of course he “did not kill me.” How silly of me to state that.

        • Champ says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 3:30 pm

          I would still report it to the police so there’s a report on file.

      • Beagle says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:31 pm

        I call it the Muhammad Trajectory. Nidal Hasan and several London jihadis, among others, and now this OK mujahid, put dawah immediately before violent sword jihad.

      • somehistory says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 3:41 pm

        If you plan to report them for attempting to convert you, then when the attempt is taking place, try to get them to say something that will incriminate them as belonging to a terror org or that they plan to commit crimes for allah or islam. If your report is based solely on the attempt to convert you to islam and nothing more, the police will look at it ( you ) askance and the next report you try to make…when the muslim trying to convert you does say something incriminating or even goes to violence against you or your property…may not get the needed attention; the police may not listen or take you seriously.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 5:53 pm

        I know that police here wouldn’t even take a report.

        • Champ says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 5:57 pm

          Perhaps not, but it’s worth a try.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 8:17 pm

          And if the police don’t pay attention, Champ, it might be a good idea for someone to alert their neighborhood watch or residents’ association group, if they have one.

        • Champ says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm

          Great idea, Graven.

  18. Salah says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    “..he was shot by another employee at Vaughan Foods..”

    Laws need to change. We all have the right to self defense.
    If this vermin KNEW that every employee is carrying a loaded gun this poor woman would be still alive.
    Molon Labe!

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2013/07/ann-barnhardt-jesus-guns.html

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm

      I enjoyed your link, Salah.

    • Bezelel says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 4:49 pm

      The government wants us to shelter in place and wait for your turn to be killed. During the Katrina crisis the military was doing house to house confiscations of fire arms claiming the state of emergency as justification. The clincher being, they didn’t leave a soldier there to provide protection in the absence of personal firearms.

  19. Ray says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    I wonder if President Obama will announce to to all citizens and the UN that Mr. Vaughn acted ‘stupidly’ .

  20. mortimer says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm

    And one more time…’it has nothing to do with Islam’…!

    So how many deaths before the politicians will know it is Islam?

    • Julian says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 5:17 pm

      Not even their own deaths, I’m afraid.

  21. SpiritOf1683 says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    So beheadings now take place in the US as well as the UK. Just as well there were firearms around to prevent an even greater bloodbath. Black + Muslim doesn’t paint a very pretty picture.

    • Kepha says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      Black+Muslim–fashionable in America since the 1960’s, when Alex Hailey’s ghosted “otterboggerfee” of Malcolm X made it so.

  22. Alice says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:18 pm

    Last hour, NPR ignored it.

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      The beheading Muslim is being called a “disgruntled employee.”

      • John C. Barile says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 4:01 pm

        I wonder if Nolen’s on-the-job proselytizing had anything to do with his dismissal. I guess this will be taken as a summons to conduct “sensitivity training” of kuffar employees.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 10:03 pm

      MSN has a small link with the usual dance around Islam

      http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/police-woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-workplace

  23. Always On Watch says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:21 pm

    Some years ago, I read that, sooner or later if one lives long enough, one will personally know someone who was seriously injured in or died in an automobile accident.

    Now, in the 21st Century Dark Age, sooner or later each of us will personally know someone who was beheaded by an Islamomaniac. This wouldn’t be inevitable — except for our feckless leaders, feckless media, and feckless academicians. And, yes, feckless citizens.

    WAKE UP, WEST!

    • RKMacUalraig says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      OO-Rah, Always!!

      Hope you & yours are doing well.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:30 pm

      Always on Watch wrote:

      Now, in the 21st Century Dark Age, sooner or later each of us will personally know someone who was beheaded by an Islamomaniac.
      ………………………………

      I don’t know anyone who has been beheaded, Always on Watch, but astonishingly I have known *three people* who have been slaughtered by Muslims.

      I went to school with Chris Stevens, the American ambassador to Libya who was murdered in Benghazi. We weren’t close, but we knew each other well enough to say “hi” when we passed in the halls of the History Department at UC Berkeley.

      I met journalist Chauncey Bailey several times when he was covering events at the Oakland Library when he was writing for the Oakland Tribune. He was later assassinated by Your Black Muslim Bakery (an offshoot of the Nation of Islam) thugs for writing an expose of that violent Islamic gang.

      Otherwise unrelated, I knew Mike Wills pretty well. He was a barista at a cafe I frequented. He’d take cigarette breaks out on the back patio and ask me to show him the art I was working on.

      He was a really sweet guy, and he wanted to be a chef. He made a move in that direction when he started working as a sous chef at the sister restaurant next door to the cafe. I didn’t see him as often after that, but we’d say hi to him and his girlfriend when we saw them around the neighborhood.

      His girlfriend always gently ribbed him about how smoking was his only bad habit and would be the death of him.

      She was right—but not in the way you might think. I knew he lived in north Oakland, but hadn’t realized it was right near Your Black Muslim Bakery. One night he went out for cigarettes, and on his way back home was shot to death. He was killed just because he was white and not a black Muslim.

      I don’t even live in a region that is particularly heavily infested with Mohammedans—that I personally know three people murdered by them—and in separate incidents—still shocks me.

      • Bezelel says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 10:00 pm

        Thank you for sharing that. You definitely have more than a casual interest in our current events.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 1:32 am

          I do, Bezelel. But like many people I really started to wake up to the Jihad threat after 9/11.

          I discovered JIhad Watch in 2006, before any of the atrocities above had happened. They were horrifying—and just made it more personal and strengthened my resolve.

      • Trappedinca says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 5:33 am

        I remember trading emails with Chauncey Bailey, he believed racism was embedded in American culture, people, etc. I also remember when that poor chef was killed by the charming folks at Your Muslim Bakery & I kept asking Danny Wan/Pat Kernighan “why isn’t the chef’s murder being treated as a hate crime? Never got a straight answer.

        I sure don’t miss Oakland.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:04 pm

          Thanks for the personal information, Trappedinca.

          I didn’t happen to agree with many aspects of Chauncey Bailey’s politics, either—he was very much a supporter of “affirmative action” and quotas, things that I am deeply critical of.

          But he was assassinated by Muslims for daring to expose the violence and corruption of Your Black Muslim Bakery, as well as the dhimmi enabling by the city, county, school district, airport, and child protective services.

          One need not agree with Chauncey Bailey on every point to respect the work he did in exposing these violent Jihadists, nor in mourning his murder and condemning his killers.

          And it’s not as though Your Black Muslim Bakery had any problem with his leftist politics—they would have targeted *any* journalist who dared to expose their savagery.

  24. duh_swami says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

    This has nothing to do with Islam…Islam teaches peace…We know this because Rasool Obama said so…Rasool wouldn’t lie about it…would he?

  25. tpellow says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    Supplementary.

    “Oklahoma woman beheaded by coworker who wanted to convert employees to Islam.”

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/09/26/Oklahoma-woman-beheaded-by-coworker-who-wanted-to-convert-employees-to-Islam/1141411754640/#ixzz3ES6Dnpxf

  26. gravenimage says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Oklahoma: Muslim beheads coworker, had tried to convert colleagues to Islam
    ………………………………….

    I just heard this horrifying story on KCBS news radio—as soon as I head that he beheaded his victim I thought it likely that it was a Jihad attack. I was rather surprised that they actually noted that the perpetrator had been trying to convert his coworkers to Islam—of course, this conformed that the attack was Jihad.

    More:

    Alton Nolen, 30, decapitated one woman before he was shot by another employee at Vaughan Foods while actively stabbing a second woman.
    ………………………………….

    “Alton Nolen”—I wonder what his *Muslim* name is? This American Infidel name shows that he is likely a “revert” himself.

    More:

    The man who shot Nolen was an off-duty reserve police officer, Mark Vaughn, who was chief operating officer at the business.
    ………………………………….

    Thank God he was there. I know that some scoff at the idea that an armed populace can make much of a difference—but Mark Vaughn certainly saved Traci Johnson’s life, and likely that of other innocent people at the plant.

    Moore Police spokesman Jeremy Lewis is right—Mark Vaughn *is* a hero.

    More:

    Moore Police spokesman Jeremy Lewis said the suspect “recently started trying to convert some of his co-workers to the Muslim faith”. The FBI are involved in the investigation.
    ………………………………….

    This is canonical Islam—first “invite” Infidels to Islam, and if they do not convert, then “fight them”, i.e., kill them.

    And it is not surprising that the hulking Alton Nolen decided to attack middle-aged women first—damn coward.

    • Leith Wood says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 6:24 pm

      I hope the FBI do better with this Investigation than they did in the Boston marathon. Know your enemy, know yourself.

    • Joel says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 6:51 pm

      According to the New York Times his ‘Muslim’ name is ‘Jah’Keem Yisreal’

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 29, 2014 at 4:34 pm

        Thanks, Joel.

  27. TruthSerum says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    First reaction from local Muslim group – Islamophobia alert!:

    “Saad Mohammad, a spokesman for the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, said leaders of the society’s mosque in northwest Oklahoma City are on alert and taking security precautions to protect the Muslims who gather there from any violence that someone might try to attempt in retaliation for the Moore incident.”

    They must be worried about a head scarf getting tugged.

  28. jewdog says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 4:49 pm

    Three steps needed to stop a jihadi:
    1) Take aim
    2) Exhale slowly
    3) Squeeze the trigger

    • Lookmann says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      Yes,of course . Provided you are in US and have your gun at hand.
      In most other countries having/carrying a gun is a difficult task.

  29. Wellington says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Many on-point comments here, by Champ, gravenimage, wildjew, Davegreybeard, jihad3tracker, mortimer, Salah, et al.

    I would only like to contribute this to this interesting thread: 1) Islam is a burden to all mankind (even to Muslims though most Muslims don’t realize this, and the ones that do are afraid to admit it—–which in itself says a lot about Islam); 2) Slowly, but inexorably, sinking into the collective psyche of Americans, Brits, Canadians, Australians, Dutch, Germans, French, Italians, Danes, et al., is the FACT that Islam is an enemy of—– Western Civilization, liberty, equality under the law, humor (remember, there is no humor in Islam), romantic love, love overall (hey, let’s face it, when submission is your “thing,” love is, to say the least, not a priority), and a true Golden Rule for all.

    One last comment: the current crop of Western elites, i.e., the Kerrys, the Obamas, the Camerons, the Clintons, the Pope Francises, et al. are failing Western Civilization and freedom big time. Hugely so. And so their proper legacy, their accurate legacy, should be written with a heap of negatives.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      You are too kind to jihad3tracker Wellington, considering his latest comment in reply to the fist posting at the top of page (long after your compliment)
      jihad3tracker said at 8:18 PM
      “Compare this photo of Alton Nolen with a picture of Obama — do you notice one BIG similarity ?”

      I can see the temptation of a commenter to reply to the first post to get some extra visibility and attention long after the posting his earlier comments but his comment hints at desperation and is dangerously off topic such that it could be used to smear the good intentions of other commenters.

      jihad3tracker has complimented me in the past, yet I feel a need to draw a line regardless of friction it might cause.
      So be it.
      The river runs wide.

    • Champ says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 12:43 pm

      Thank you, Wellington …and I always learn so much for your thoughtful and informative contributions, my friend.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 29, 2014 at 4:38 pm

      Thanks, Wellington.

  30. Thinking From First Principles says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    I encourage Mr. Spencer and Ms. Geller to place statements calling for increased police protections of all non-Muslims in the wake of the call by IS for every Muslim everywhere to kill non-Muslims using any means possible … especially given this subsequent example of sudden-jihad syndrome. This statement should be made in every outlet – such as Fox News – that carries the call for protection against a backlash. State clearly that the threat of a backlash is purely speculative while the threat of murder and decapitation of non-Muslims in a lone-Muslim attack has been proven real.

    And stop calling it a “lone-wolf” attack. It’s disrespectful to the wolf who is a carnivore and only trying to eat. The lone-Muslim attack has nothing to do with being hungry and jihadi murder should not under any circumstances be equated with the legitimate feeding behavior of the wolf.

  31. Medina says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 5:33 pm

    It will be interesting to hear accounts from the Vaughn employees. Holder’s last act will probably be some sort of Benghazi muzzling.

    As for me, I’ve heard all I need to know that this was an act of domestic terrorism.

  32. Anon says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 5:59 pm

    The Pretender in Chief. 100 people could have been beheaded today and just-air-bomb-ya would have gone on tv stating how it has nothing to do with islam. See no evil (about islam), hear no evil (about islam), speak no evil (about islam), the quran is an evil war guide.

  33. Christian A. Beltram says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    Cases like this demonstrate the fact that in at least some cases, converts to an evil religion are more dangerous than at least some of the people who were born into it.

  34. Davegreybeard says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    @jihad3tracker
    “…America. GET OFF YOUR COMFY ASSES ! ! !”

    Indeed j3t.

    I finally did just that several years ago and acquired my Concealed Weapons Permit. And I live in the suburbs of the San Francisco Bay Area! I was quite surprised that I was granted one, but it depends a lot on which County you live in – and you do have to “get off your comfy ass.”

    As for the efficacy of “extra” police protection, always remember “When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.”

    So first, acquire the firearm and learn how to use it. Your local gun shop can provide the information on where and how to get any training you may need.

    The main thing is JUST DO IT!

    • RKMacUalraig says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      @ DGB & J3T:

      OO-RAH!

      • Davegreybeard says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 1:12 am

        Eleven Bravo salutations back atcha Mac!

    • Bezelel says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:10 pm

      Georgia just passed new laws concerning concealed carry. The one that stands out is, your carry permit information cannot be shared with other departments,ie.. Dept of motor vehicles.Until then your carry status was broadcast via your license plates.

  35. Joel says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    https://www.facebook.com/alton.threadgill – Alleged FB of the perp; if true – this is surely not work place violence; also does appear to be a convert from Christianity – reference to his mother playing in church.

  36. Beagle says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    “Sharia law is coming!!!”http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/sharia-law-is-coming-oklahoma-beheader-celebrated-terrorists-disparaged-non-muslims-on-facebook/

    Yeah, “workplace violence”. Luckily for our major institutions, but not the future of the world, you can fool some of the people all of the time.

  37. Beagle says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 7:36 pm

    Drudge has the latest.

    He is a sharia and Islamic supremacist. He was recently photographed at a mosque in Moore giving the tahwid one-finger salute. He was fired for advocating stoning. So while he literally committed violence at a workplace, this was jihad in his mind.

    • Beagle says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 7:48 pm

      Correction: the tahwid picture was taken in OKC.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 8:14 pm

      Beagle wrote:

      He was fired for advocating stoning.
      ………………………..

      *Stoning*—jeez. Thanks for the information, Beagle.

      So I think we can dispense with the idea that his Da’wa was of the plausibly gentle “please visit my Mosque some evening during Ramadan and share a lovely Iftar meal with us” variety…

      • Angemon says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 8:29 pm

        I was invited to something like that once. I feigned ignorance and said “I’d love to. I’ll take an imported spanish ham, produced from black pig, I just got. It’s premium stuff, you’re going to love it”.

        Like i said, I was only invited once 😛

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 29, 2014 at 4:42 pm

          Hilarious, Angemon.

  38. ayman says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    Immediately flaged as american jihadi, someone who was a drug addict , convicted previously with crimes, and has jesus , and judiah tatooted on his arm. EXACTLY who is reporting this , is just using any thing to steer negative opinion, i wonder how many crimes profile people based on religion , sicking website. Based on huffington post Most of what you call terrorist took their islamic teaching and learning from books written by robert spencer and other hate mongering hate filled interpretation rather than authentic islamic representation that the 1.7 billion Muslim follow.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 1:41 am

      Ah—right. I’m sure Boko Haram, ISIS, and the Taliban learned everything from Robert Spencer, as well…sarc/off

      • rev g says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 3:23 am

        One would have to wonder where the muslins got theiir evil inspiration for 1300 years or so before Robert or Jihad Watch….lol.

      • John C. Barile says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 3:37 pm

        Right.

        I pledged bayah to Robert Spencer–his magnificence, Khalifah Sbunsar I–just two months ago.

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 10:55 am

      ” Most of what you call terrorist took their islamic teaching and learning from books written by robert spencer and other hate mongering hate filled interpretation rather than authentic islamic representation that the 1.7 billion Muslim follow.”

      Uh-huh. Does King Abdullah read Robert Spencer’s books as well ? Maybe the beheaders in Chop-Chop Square do ? What about the mohammedans in Aceh, Indonesia, who are now forcing non-mohammedans to comply with Sharia ? And, as gravenimage has noted, the other mohammedan terrorist murderers throughout the world – have they all read Robert’s books, too ? Idiot.

  39. abad says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    This is precisely WHY Islam needs to be banned from the United States of America. Round up these Muslims and ship them all back to Riyadh. Stay off of my turf GDI!

    • Angemon says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 8:01 pm

      How would you go about deporting a native citizen (at least his name – Alton Nolen – give the impression he’s an american citizen), and where would you deport them?

    • Wellington says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 8:38 pm

      Islam, abad, does not need to be banned from America anymore than does Neo-Nazism, Marxism or any other totalitarian ideology (none of which ever have, including during WWII and the Cold War). What does need to happen, though, is that Islam is looked upon as a giant negative, just as Communism and, in general, other totalitarian ideologies have been.

      And so, loons can continue to submit and be beholden to the THEORY of their respective totalitarian ideology here in America, including Muslim loons, but any violation of American law in pursuit of the loser totalitarian ideology of choice should be prosecuted to the maximum. Moreover, were this to happen, were Islam in the collective consciousness of the American nation come to be looked upon by the body politic and the powers that be with the same deep skepticism that Nazism and Communism have been, it would not be, to put it mildly, an unimportant development. Indeed, it would be a game changer.

      I do wish more people who despise Islam, as I do, would figure this out. Voegelinian hasn’t, nor have many others. Frankly, I am tired of pointing this out and do wish that more people would learn about American statutory and constitutional law before expressing completely insupportable and unnecessary opinions here at JW. If I come across here as dismissive, I want it known that I fully intend it.

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 26, 2014 at 8:55 pm

        “Islam… does not need to be banned from America anymore than does Neo-Nazism, Marxism or any other totalitarian ideology”

        Wellington continues to repeat this point without sufficiently assimilating the (my) cogent response to it: Neo-Nazis and Marxists didn’t do a 911 nor the mountain of thousands of other ACTS OF WAR against us. For some strange reason, he can’t see this mountainous distinction, but insists perversely (and repeatedly over years) on arguing whilst blind to it.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 9:00 pm

          So, if Neo-Nazis had done a 9/11, or Marxists had, PLUS many other “events” of a similar intended nature, then Neo-Nazism and/or Marxism could have been banned? Is that it?

          So, the DEGREE of heinous actions, the NUMBER of heinous actions, committed in the name of a totalitarian ideololgy is the determinant of whether a particular totalitairan ideology can be banned under statutory and constitutional law? If so, CITE THE CASES.

        • Jay Boo says

          Sep 26, 2014 at 10:57 pm

          voegelinian
          Please get out your thesaurus and find another word besides

          ‘mountain’

          You have worn that word out a long time ago.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 28, 2014 at 4:46 am

          “So, if Neo-Nazis had done a 9/11, or Marxists had, PLUS many other “events” of a similar intended nature, then Neo-Nazism and/or Marxism could have been banned? Is that it?

          “So, the DEGREE of heinous actions, the NUMBER of heinous actions, committed in the name of a totalitarian ideololgy is the determinant of whether a particular totalitairan ideology can be banned under statutory and constitutional law? If so, CITE THE CASES.”

          I have already told Wellington before that I’m not concerned about “banning the ideology” of Islam. Why he keeps repeating mischaracterizations of my position, and why he keeps ignoring my points as I argue them, I don’t know; but it long ago ended my conversation with him. There only reoccurs now and then dead burnt-out husks of a former attempt from long ago.

      • anon says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 12:29 am

        You’ve got to be joking. Communism is still going strong on our college campuses and among liberals, journalists and Democratic politicians. Though they don’t it call Communism though, it’s generally under the rubic of cultural Marxism or progressivism.

        And it’s wrecking our society just like it’s doing in Europe in case you haven’t noticed. As for Islam, we either get the cajones and ban Islam and it’s adherents from the U.S. or we will eventually end up like France or Sweden as their numbers continue to swell until the point they achieve a level of political influence where it will be impossible for us to confront them anymore. As it is, they already have more influence in the White House and Congress than the Anti-Jihadists have. That’s a wake up call if there ever was one. But evidently it’s not for the CJ movement.

        The fact is Muslims don’t care about our “deep skepticism” of their ideology, it’s far more attractive than a political ideology like Communism or Fascism could ever be, hence it’s ability to survive 1400 years and be the faith of 1.4 billion people. In short you sadly underestimate it.

        As for Constitutional law, our Founders never envisioned their successors to be so stupid and suicidal as to admit into their country a alien species that is totally incompatible with it. The fact you can’t see it nor a need to ban Muslim immigration is appalling.

        At best Wellington, you are a peddler of a sweet lie, you promote a business as usual mentality while offering no real solution to the problem that is Islam in the West.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 11:35 am

          During WWII, anon, America did not ban the American Nazi Party. During the Cold War, America did not ban the American Communist Party. I submit to you that it is not necessary to ban Islam either.

          What is necessary is that Islam be looked upon in the negative as Nazism and Communism regularly have been (I readily concede that among certain American elites Marxism unfortunately retains some popularity) . I have gone into length about this at JW many times, including why It is not only unnecessary to ban Islam but why it is highly unrealistic and completely not in keeping with American constitutional law. Of course, if you would care to provide the constitutional arguments why Islam should be, could be, banned under the Constitution, then run it by the American judiciary, not one member of which, to my knowledge, to the present day has judicially opined that Islam could be, should be, banned. Take it up with the American judiciary. I’d love to see the outcome.

          Perhaps though before you do you should crack a few tomes on American constitutional law. Gauging by what you have written, I don’t think you have to date.

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:26 pm

          Characterizing Wellington as the “peddler of a sweet lie” is base calumny—his one of the staunchest Anti-Jihadists here.

          As for his views, he teaches history and constitutional law at the university level, so he does know whereof he speaks.

          Further, if Islam were banned, that would likely mean that reading or owning any of the texts of Islam would be banned as well. Muslims would not care—they would just defy the “filthy Kuffar” but such laws would make criminals of many of us here who read these works so that we can *defend* against Islam.

          Nazism was almost universally hated and derided during and after WWII—but anti-Fascists were not prevented from leaning about that foul creed—neither should we be prevented from leaning about Islam.

        • Angemon says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:35 pm

          gravenimage posted:

          “such laws would make criminals of many of us here who read these works so that we can *defend* against Islam.”

          I believe Mr. Spencer mentioned a couple of times he was given “special attention” in airports for transporting the likes of the quran.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 28, 2014 at 4:41 am

          “You’ve got to be joking. Communism is still going strong on our college campuses and among liberals, journalists and Democratic politicians. ”

          I didn’t say it isn’t. But it doesn’t rise to the level of violent combat against us, which is what the Umma is doing against us (and the Muslims who aren’t ostensibly doing that are waging stealth jihad by pretending they aren’t part of the physical war they are waging against us).

      • Angemon says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 6:52 am

        Wellington posted:

        “Moreover, were this to happen, were Islam in the collective consciousness of the American nation come to be looked upon by the body politic and the powers that be with the same deep skepticism that Nazism and Communism have been, it would not be, to put it mildly, an unimportant development. Indeed, it would be a game changer.”

        Yup. For centuries Western nations recognized islam for what it is – a polar opposite of their core values – and dealt with it accordingly. So what changed? Certainly not islam.

      • Champ says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 12:54 pm

        Wellington wrote:

        Frankly, I am tired of pointing this out and do wish that more people would learn about American statutory and constitutional law before expressing completely insupportable and unnecessary opinions here at JW.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I agree, Wellington. Yes, it is important that we remain law abiding citizens so we are *not* like mohammedans: lawbreakers and evildoers. Those of us fighting against evil islam need to do what’s right under the law; and/or get active to change certain laws through the proper channels.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 27, 2014 at 8:49 pm

          Thank you, Champ, for your comment. You know, opposing Islam’s supremacist notions must be done as smartly and informedly as possible. Those here at JW who opine irresponsibly, uninformedly, about American law, though they mean well and though they fully understand Islam’s many pathologies, do the “cause” no service. When opposing malevolence it must be done optimally. Not knowing American law when dealing with Islam is a far from optimal approach—-to put it mildly.

          Hope you and yours are doing well, my friend. As always, I wish you the best.

  40. TH says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 7:56 pm

    What a miserable coward, who attacks two woman. Just like the Hamas jihadis who use women and children as human shields against the Istaeli Army

  41. Beaglec says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Via Drudge again:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/

    There is no reasonable way to spin that but dozens of Muslims supporting beheading.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 8:32 pm

      Muslims are becoming further emboldened, Beagle.

      In the face of atrocities like this one, they used to at least consistently trot out the Taqiyya—now many of them don’t even bother, because they assume that they don’t have to. What are the dhimmis going to do? Probably nothing…

  42. Lesley says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 8:14 pm

    Ah, another warm and fuzzy act of terror brought to you by Islam; the great religion of peace (sarcasm). Here’s something else we can look forward to: check out this link to a fatwa from 2007, that female coworkers should breastfeed their male coworkers so they can work together under Sharia law. I kid you not– just when I thought it couldn’t get any weirder…
    http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/islamic-adult-breastfeeding-fatwas-return/

  43. gravenimage says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Here’s a deeply disturbing message left on Facebook from a woman identified as this Jihadist’s sister:

    “He is alive and doing well,” the message read. “Thanks to all praying warriors out there friends and family. To god be the glory! My bro is alive and just know that the devil is a lie. Please continue prayers.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/okla-man-beheads-woman-workplace-fight-report-article-1.1953778

    No condolences to the victims, no expressed shock over her brother’s vicious actions—and she seems to be describing her brother’s horrific attack on a couple of his middle-aged female corworkers as the actions of a “warrior”.

    It sounds as though there is more than one “revert” at home…

    • rev g says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 8:53 pm

      I think she meant to say “preying warriors”…

    • Mirren10 says

      Sep 27, 2014 at 11:03 am

      ”It sounds as though there is more than one “revert” at home…”

      Yes. I hope the police are aware of *her*. Cue the next beheading …

      To quote you, graven, God, I hate islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Sep 27, 2014 at 8:37 pm

        Yes, Mirren—I *hope* the authorities are looking into this Jihadist’s family, associates, and Mosque—but so often they don’t, because that would be “Islamophobic”…

  44. Beagle says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 8:51 pm

    Tying the previous record, FBI has already ruled out terrorism. The FBI is not even a bit credible any more. Weasel wording: “no contact with”.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/man-beheaded-co-worker-moore-oklahoma-workplace-attack-police-n212396

    Drudge links Gateway Pundit: 30-40 Muslims chanting creepily at police press conference.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/

    Killer photographed doing the tahwid salute at OKC mosque.

    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/breaking-beheading-suspect-alton-nolenjahkeem-yisrael-fired-after-argument-over-stoning-women

    • rev g says

      Sep 26, 2014 at 9:14 pm

      So the OK muslims disavow any knowledge of the guy…they probably don’t know Alton Nolen, but I bet they know Jah’Keem Yisrael, his muslim name.

  45. Jody says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    Its a good thing a responsible citizen had a gun and was able to stop the threat.

  46. Beagle says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    From Megyn on FNC, he liked to punctuate his FB postings with “JIHAD JIHAD JIHAD”. He posted a beheading photo. He celebrated 9/11.

    Yeah, workplace violence….

  47. Don McKellar says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Just saw the CBS evening news piece on this. The reporter talked about the ISIS videos as possible inspiration, but said that authorities assured him that this was inspired by his firing “alone” and not terrorism. In other words, workplace stress inspired him to cut off her head.

    At least they did mention that he was an Islamic convert and had tried to convert his co-workers to Islam. They also mentioned his long criminal record. Well, thank goodness he gave up the drug dealing and found Islam, EH WOT?

  48. citycat says

    Sep 26, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Restriction, by the western powers, of the free expression of the truth of Islam is making western society pathetic, else this would not happen.
    The powers are f**kwits

  49. TheInfidelAlliance says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 3:33 am

    No, this is not ‘workplace violence. This is not just another murder. This man was ‘radicalized’ when he adopted the value system of the sadistic psychopath and ‘holy’ prophet of Islam, Mohammed.

    This is MOHAMMOCIDE.

    Muslims killing according to the Sunnah, the examples and traditions of the sadistic psychopathic ‘holy’ prophet of Islam, Mohammed, so that Islam will dominate all. Decapitation of ‘infidels’ as an Islamic holy sacrament.

    MOHAMMOCIDE.

    ~ The Infidel Alliance

  50. Christine Ploeg says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 7:39 am

    I actually find this article more informative.
    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/27/us/oklahoma-man-is-said-to-behead-co-worker.html?referrer=

    • Budvarakbar says

      Sep 28, 2014 at 11:43 am

      At the end of the article there was the usual bromide that “he wasn’t apparently targeting anyone” Yeh sure — how about “white, female, American, not muslim” etc etc

  51. Terry Washington says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 8:24 am

    And of course we will hear the usual bromides about “Islamophobia”, the favorite straw man of the Left, much as “anti-Sovietism” or “reactionary Red baiting” was used to describe Western critics of human rights abuses in the USSR and its satellites during the Cold War!

  52. BC says

    Sep 27, 2014 at 9:55 am

    No mention of his ‘Islamic’ name which was given in other reports

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