Of course, in the real world it wasn’t Western politicians and media who linked Islam to the 9/11 attacks. It was the hijackers and plotters themselves.
In March 2009, the masterminds of the 9/11 plot, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Ramzi bin As-Shibh, Walid bin ‘Attash, Mustafa Ahmed AI-Hawsawi, and ‘Ali ‘abd Al-’Aziz ‘Ali – styling themselves as the “9/11 Shura Council” –wrote a lengthy communiqué titled “The Islamic Response to the Government’s Nine Accusations.” In it, they wrote: “Many thanks to God, for his kind gesture, and choosing us to perform the act of Jihad for his cause and to defend Islam and Muslims. Therefore, killing you and fighting you, destroying you and terrorizing you, responding back to your attacks, are all considered to be great legitimate duty in our religion….We ask to be near to God, we fight you and destroy you and terrorize you. The Jihad in god’s [sic] cause is a great duty in our religion.” They quoted numerous Qur’an verses, including one stating that “to those against whom war is waged, permission is given (to fight,) because they are wronged and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid” (22:39), and another commanding Muslims to “fight in the way of Allah those who fight you, but be not the transgressor, Allah likes not the transgressors” (2:190). They even quoted the notorious “Verse of the Sword”: “Then fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, and seize them, and besiege them and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush” (9:5).
To cinch their case, they used two verses enjoining Muslims to strike terror into the hearts of their foes: “Soon shall we cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, for that they joined companies with Allah, for which he has sent no authority; There [sic] place will be the fire; and evil is the home of the wrongdoers” (3:151); and “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the heart of the enemies of Allah and your enemies” (8:60).
Hijacker Mohammed Atta wrote this just before the attack: “When the confrontation begins, strike like champions who do not want to go back to this world. Shout, ‘Allahu Akbar,’ because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers. God said: ‘Strike above the neck, and strike at all of their extremities.’ Know that the gardens of paradise are waiting for you in all their beauty, and the women of paradise are waiting, calling out, ‘Come hither, friend of God.’ They have dressed in their most beautiful clothing.” The “Strike above the neck, and strike at all of their extremities” quote is also from the Qur’an (47:4). The gardens and women of Paradise are also spoken of in the Qur’an (52:17-20; 55:62-76; etc.), underscoring the fact that Atta and his companions saw their mission and goal in exclusively Islamic terms.
In Osama bin Laden’s letter to the American people, which was published on November 24, 2002, he put it succinctly: “The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam.” This was the ultimate purpose of the 9/11 attacks: to weaken the American economy, so that ultimately the American government would collapse. That, presumably, would end what bin Laden and his allies considered to be unacceptable American interference in Muslim countries, and pave the way for the U.S. itself to become an Islamic state.
But what Faisal Muammar is doing here is a familiar, favored tactic of Islamic supremacists: ignore the statements of jihad terrorists linking their terror directly to Islam, pretend that only the “Islamophobes” who point out such statements are making that link, and decry it in what is really a sly attempt to obfuscate the truth and make people afraid to state it, which would have the effect of allowing jihad terror to advance unimpeded.
“KACND: Western media attacks on Islam swelled terrorist ranks,” by Abdul Hannan Tago, Arab News, September 8, 2014:
Secretary-General of King Abdul Aziz Center for National Dialogue (KACND) Faisal Muammar has said that linking Islam to the events of Sept. 11, 2001 by some Western politicians and media was unfair and obviously aimed at projecting Muslims as terrorists and extremists.
“The goal of these critics was to fight Islam, not terrorism and this made them (terrorists) gain more supporters and sympathizers globally instead” he noted.
Muammar made his remarks recently while receiving US advisers and aides of the Congress members at KACND headquarters in Riyadh.
He said those indulging in terrorism and extremism use the name of religion in conflicts with others, in many parts of the world, especially in the Middle East. “Those terrorists are not related to religion, they simply make use of religion to gain supporters and sympathizers and portray their actions as service to the religion,” he said.
“KACND’s top priority is to confront extremism and terrorism and to work through partnerships with other agencies, organizations and institutions to promote the values and virtues of Islam” he added.
Muammar explained that scholars of the Islamic world agreed on the seriousness of this extremist ideology and the need to clarify the message of Islam, which is based on tolerance, justice, respect and cooperation for the good of mankind.
He briefed the visiting delegation on KACND’s objectives and vision to spread the culture of dialogue, and its role in promoting this message within the community and its continued efforts in perpetuating the values of moderation and tolerance.
On their part, the visitors praised KACND for its effort to promote the language of dialogue and dedication among the community and the efforts of the Kingdom in the issues of peace and international cooperation.
Frank Scarn says
Faisal Muammar, as sure as green apples, doesn’t know what end is UP.
Western politicians and the MSM would the last, the very penultimate last ones, to ever associate anything evil or bad with Islam. (This of course explains why they are agog at what the ISIS Muslims are doing to their enemies.)
I think we might want to call in the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice to look in Faisal’s use of marijuana and alcohol.
LOL,
bernie says
So, if one notices an elephant in a room, then that makes one responsible for the existence of the elephant?
Faisal does seem to have been drinking too much alcohol, or smoking weed, to make such a statement.
Western media have been quite fair for the most part; they’ve simply pointed out that, although most Muslims are not extremists or terrorists, there *is* a real problem with those things in the Islamic world at the present time.
gerard says
“Faisal does seem to have been drinking too much alcohol, or smoking weed, to make such a statement.”
The Islam virus is enough to produce such madness (mohamMAD) without weed or juice.
voegelinian says
It’s not madness or alcohol or drugs. It’s Taqiyya.
gravenimage says
Very true, Vogelinian. This isn’t any sort of craziness—this is *deceit*.
Moreover, we hear variants of this exact crap all the time—that we are to blame for violent JIhad.
Shane says
The sad fact is the Obozo and most liberals will agree with this. How dare we link Islam to terrorism just because the terrorists are devout Muslims who say they are killing for Allah.
voegelinian says
And many conservatives besotted by PC MC.
quotha raven says
“Muammar explained that scholars of the Islamic world agreed on the seriousness of this extremist ideology and the need to clarify the message of Islam, which is based on tolerance, justice, respect and cooperation for the good of mankind.”
Am I potty? Or are these the exact same words, same order, as were said in one of John Kerry’s recent speech. Who’s writing these speeches, anyway? Or is this just some kind of boilerplate?
cliffface says
You would think with all that oil money they would buy a dishwasher.
But I guess when you insist on cleaning the carpet five times a day without a vacuum cleaner then using your head to dry the dishes is not strange at all.
gravenimage says
Actually, most Saudis just get their abused maids to dry their dishes for them…
Dave Lindesmith says
Oh my… two additional committees the ubiguitous elite could use to beat down the common good. heh
Angemon says
The 9/11 hijackers shouted “allahu akubar!” before crashing the planes. Should I believe Faisal or my eyes and ears?
Jay Boo says
Jimmy Carter
… does it yet again
Jimmy Carter Promotes Sharia for the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA)
Jaladhi says
What a bunch of liars and hypocrites at work as usual. Islam is religion of terror and Muslims become terrorists by religious choice to please their criminal “god” Mo/allah.
kikorikid says
The FIRST thing a Islamist cannot do is say anything derogatory
about Islam, NOTHING, NADA! Anything said is BLASPHEME.
The SECOND is “Use all stratagems of War” TAQIYYA, anything
said in the furtherance of Islam is encouraged Lies, obfuscation, misdirection,
etc.
They simply want to sow confusion in the “Infidel” ranks.
HERE, they are using a common Leftist tactic, “Blame the Victim”.
Jay Boo says
Nothing new here kikorikid
Nothing new at all
Your stupid comment below with an implied threat at Saleem and using the pronoun (We) gives the impression that you are yourself a misdirection troll.
gravenimage says
Jay Boo, I agree that kikorikid was unnecessarily rude to Saleem Smith. Personally, I find Saleem’s posts very informative.
But I *don’t* believe kikorikid was threatening Saleem—when he said “you”, I don’t think he was directly talking to Saleem.
Everything I’ve read by kikorikid shows him to be a solid Anti-Jihadist—he is definitely not a Muslim troll.
Jay Boo says
Thanks for the follow up info gravenimage
Good to see others good comments on that issue
gravenimage says
Thanks, Jay Boo.
Richie says
Muslims and their victim complex.
Jay Boo says
Muhammad the sociopath logic
It is the same when Muslims commit rape
Just like the example of Muhammad
Myxlplik says
To the contrary, mostly in the west we listen to what jihadist say, then willfully ignore any religious context. If repeating what Jihadists say is the cause of their violence, then we are in a real “what came first”, chicken or the egg dilemma dating all the way back to the 6th century.
Artie Galvin says
Hold on while I find my hip boots so that I can wade through all of this knee high bull shit.
quotha raven says
LOL. Well, smirking at least. Here, use my lobster boots!
Wtf? says
Islam=Terrorists.
This needs to be taught to every Western child,Indian,Chinese and all other non muslim children. Engrain it in their minds so the next generation comes to relate these people with everything dangerous on this planet.
If Sharia Law is so perfect why do Muslims keep breaking their laws?
Beagle says
Good analysis (I rarely write that except at counter-jihad blogs) at Longwar Journal:
http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2014/09/the_islamic_state_and_the_sham.php
wtd says
ICNA Report: The American Mosque from 2012 provides useful charts and graphs detailing Islamic infiltration of American soil.
The following quote from Page 4 of this report dispels the myth of Islamic heritage within the birth of the USA . . .under the heading Major Findings (bullet point three):
Since 1980. . .so why choose the set point 1980? Puzzle pieces may begin to fall into place when considering the following incident and resolution:
1979′s Seige of Mecca, via book by Yaroslav Trofimov
Quote:
Further discussion:
PBS Frontline: “House of Saud” documentary discusses the deal made by the Saudi King to retain control over Mecca and Medina after the Siege of Mecca in 1979 as told in this leading Arab photo magazine spread for Majalla, The End of Jihad (2009), 30 Years After the Siege of Mecca.
After considering a quick scan of the LongWarJournal’s link, the evidence is there, if only they would choose to recognize Islam for the threat it really is.
Beagle says
Very interesting, thanks. I usually think of 1979 as the start year for the latest sahwa Islamia (Islamic awakening). The fall of the Shah and Soviet invasion leading to the Afghani jihad are two critical events.
The mosque siege is another important piece of the puzzle, no doubt encouraging the Saudis to pump billions more into daw’ah, jihad, mosque building, and buying influence.
Beagle says
The Frontline on Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud, the ulama, and Saudi Arabian history is very interesting. I did not realize that “the Ikhwan” which is usually used as a shorthand for the Muslim Brotherhood was probably intended to recall the Wahhabi Bedouin fighters who aided Abdul Aziz in conquering present Saudi Arabia.
Also, 45 wives with 45 sons?! That’s off by 41, I thought.
voegelinian says
And ISIS has on its bucket list the toppling of the House of Saud. Since there is such support from Saudi Arabia for ISIS (and other sundry Sunni jihadist groups in Iraq & Syria), the reasonable conclusion is that the Saudi Royalty has been, of course, tyrannically keeping a lid on a pretty much ever-present existential threat to its stability (as nearly every other depotic Muslim country has been doing for decades) from innumerable Muslims within its own borders who thirst fanatically for more Islamic “purity” than even the Saudis are able to deliver.
No doubt the 1979 commando mission caused the Saudi regime to clamp down even more tyrannically than before (though difficult to imagine, remember that with Mohammedans, whatever you imagine is the worst can always be topped — or bottomed — by another ghastly nadir).
Beagle says
“…the Saudi Royalty has been, of course, tyrannically keeping a lid on a pretty much ever-present existential threat to its stability (as nearly every other depotic Muslim country has been doing for decades) from innumerable Muslims within its own borders who thirst fanatically for more Islamic “purity” than even the Saudis are able to deliver…”
— —
And how! Watch the Frontline on Saudi Arabia linked above. I knew Wahhabism was based in the Seventh Century, but not the degree. I assumed the idea of _government_ at least was halal. Not so much.
School, electronics, the division of labor, all of it is, or was, viewed as bidah (innovation in religion, a no-no). Their belief is struggling in Allah’s cause to practice and spread Islam, period. Full stop. It’s 20x distilled Islam so profoundly backwards it’s almost incomprehensible. It’s a kind of Luddite stultifying theocracy which would return them to a state below Somalia, uncontacted tribes in South America even, if left to fester.
voegelinian says
Yeah, the Wahhabi Ulema for decades issued fatwas against even innovations like stoplights, radio, television, etc.
Beagle says
Amazingly, the Wahhabi ulama has been a modernizing force in Saudi Arabia compared to the Bedouin beliefs as outlined in the Frontline House of Saud broadcast.
“Wahhabi ulama has been a modernizing force” has to top the list of things I never thought I would write even if I turned loose an army of typing monkeys.
gravenimage says
Good post.
Wellington says
Just more Muslimthink, which includes blaming non-Muslims for linking terrorism to Islam even though the terrorism in question was perpetrated by Muslims acting in the name of Islam.
With Islam, black is white, white is black, down is up, up is down, life is bad, death is good, etc. It’s Bizarro World, except that it’s not Superman fiction but actual reality.
Best when dealing with the Islamic World just to assume it is Bizarro World come to life. That way, one will still be disgusted but at least no longer surprised.
Bezelel says
Is “Look at what you made me do” an adequate defense in court?
mortimer says
…”aimed at projecting Muslims as terrorists and extremists”???
Obviously, the terrorists ‘projected’ themselves as terrorists. They were mostly Saudi citizens in USA and financed there by Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia didn’t know they were terrorists? C’mon!
Mr X says
Any chance we can get a list of the congressmen whose aides and advisers attended?
Saleem Smith says
Maybe all of the Muslim “martyrs” are enjoying the dark-eyed “houris” promised them by the Qur’an in Islamic paradise tonight as we speak!
Or maybe not.
Maybe death has something else in store for them. Something not so “sexy.”
Or maybe Islam is a horrible pack of lies and an evil totalitarian ideology masquerading as a respectable religion?
Yeah, that’s more like it.
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy is a complete fraud.
>>>>>
The Sexual Powers of Prophet Muhammad!
Many Muslims believe that the prophet Muhammad was a man endowed with super human powers in the realm of sexuality. Muslim males are especially proud of this Islamic tradition and often use it as material for jokes and boasting.
During my days in Islam, I remember a product being sold in an Islamic book store that was designed to give men extra sexual energy. It was a glass jar containing a mixture of pistachio nuts and honey as well as some other ingredients.
The guy working the cash register was grinning from ear to ear trying to make fun while explaining that studly Muhammad had the sex drive of thirty men and used to bed all of his women in one night when the horny little freak got the urge. I just smiled back at the guy and laughed at his stupidity.
Here is an authentic hadith documenting the great sexual prowess of one Muhammad of Arabia:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada: Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, “Had the Prophet the strength for it?” Anas replied, “We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men).” And Sa’id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).
See, Muhammad really was a playboy who scored with the ladies! So what if some of those women were in actuality slaves and concubines, right? It is likely that both Muhammad’s slave and non-slave women would have left that disgusting little pig were it not for fear of losing their lives. After all, he had killed some of their husbands.
Jihadis are blowing themselves up and killing both Muslim and non-Muslim peoples on a daily basis trying to get to “the goodies” waiting in Paradise that “Muhammad promised them”. Those deluded fools think that Mr.Allah up there in 7th heaven is going produce an endless supply of perfect virgins for them.
These programmed robots are trying to kill their way into Paradise so that they can “get busy with all of those willing cuties”. The Qur’an, that hideously evil piece of trash that was Muhammad’s ticket to “the good life”, contains many passages describing the carnal rewards of Islamic heaven.
Here is a small sample of what Muslim males expect to enjoy when they die:
Qur’an, 056.012-039: They shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruit of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds… We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand…
055.054-059: They shall recline on couches lined with thick brocade, and within reach shall hang the fruits of both gardens. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny? Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before. Which of your Lord’s blessings would you deny? Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?
055.072-075: Dark-eyed virgins, sheltered in their tents (which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?), whom neither man nor jinnee will have toughed before. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?
Muslim males actually expect 72 virgins each when they die and go to heaven! Muslims believe this nonsense because it is specified in a Hadith contained within the Al-Tirmidhi collection: (volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah [Prophet Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise, Hadith 2687).
“The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: ‘The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen]’.”
The sensual pleasures that Muslims expect to experience in Paradise have been described in graphic detail by Egyptian scholar and Islamic theologian, Imam Al-Suyuti (died 1505). He wrote:
“Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.”
Though fear and hatred are the REAL engine of Islam, SEX and other luxuries are a damn close second! No wonder so many Muslims are eager to kill and die and go to heaven!!
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Jay Boo says
Suicide bombers
Watch out for that last 72nd virgin
Paradise Virgins
A brutish unkempt shepherd approached with his smelly flock of sheep and a mangy shepherd dog. He smelled even worse than his sheep and he growled,
“What are you doing here, you don’t belong here?”
I am a suicide bomber and I have come to paradise to collect my reward.
Oh I see; you are a (homicide) bomber. You have come to the right place then.
I have been anxiously expecting you and looking forward to this day, he said as he drooled. I am here to give you what you deserve then.
Where are my 72 virgins as promised by the Prophet? I demand my 72 virgins.
This farm is not the Paradise I was expecting.
Paradise, you didn’t really believe you could enter paradise by murdering innocent children?
No true religion would ever condone such utter stupidity.
You have been seduced by a demon’s satanic verse. Satan’s reward is yours.
Today you will have 70 virgin sheep and 1 virgin dog.
Let’s not talk about tomorrow or forever-after just yet,
said the virgin shepherd with a glassy-eyed stare and a menacing smile.
kikorikid says
Saleem, We just don’t give a shit about this.
Informative, but we don’t care.
Repeat after me, aloud, Mohammed was a mentally-ill
Murderous Brigand-Rapist. In front of witnesses.
Now, if that is not clear, If you throw a bomb at
my family I will come and put a bayonet thru your eye socket.
That is exactly what Islam is doing .
Saleem Smith says
Yeah!
They just don’t give a shit about this kinda stuff.
Mohammed was mentally ill!
Mohammed was mentally ill!
ad nauseam
Wellington says
I appreciate your posts, Saleem, as I’m sure many others do. Hope you are doing well.
thomas_h says
Ditto here, Saleem.
gravenimage says
As do I, Saleem.
Beagle says
If we weren’t interested in learning more about Islam in a “know your enemy” way, not much point in coming here.
I find your posts very enlightening on a very unenlightened subject, Saleem.
voegelinian says
Saleem, I never saw your response as to whether you have a blog. If you do, I’d be interested to take a look; thanks.
gravenimage says
Voegelinian, I believe this is Saleem Smith’s work—essays—over at Islam Watch:
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/95-saleem.html
Jay Boo says
kikorikid you must at least admit that
Saleem Smith’s follow-up comment is devastatingly good and informative
beginning with:
“All Muslims believe in the perfection of the Qur’an and strive to copy Muhammad’s example “
Jay Boo says
kikorikid
BTW capitalizing ‘We’ does not allow you to be an official spokesperson
Why not be more honest and say “I”
duh_swami says
Saleem has been posting here longer than you have and all his posts make perfectly good sense…So, lay off…
Mirren10 says
*You* may not give a shit about this, but *we* do.
Saleem has been posting here for years; he is an ex-muslim, and has his own web site. His posts are not only informative, but extremely useful.
Saleem Smith says
All Muslims believe in the perfection of the Qur’an and strive to copy Muhammad’s example in every instance of life. Therein lies the problem. Sharia law and full obedience to the laws of allah found in the koran and mohammeds sunnah is the goal.
Qur’an 33:21
There has certainly been for you in the Messenger of Allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in Allah and the Last Day and [who] remembers Allah often.
Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:
“One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…
The statement continues,
Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”
killer koranski says
Islam teaches that Mohammed was the perfect man.
Big problem.
Jay Boo says
kikorikid you must at least admit that
Saleem Smith’s follow-up comment is devastatingly good and informative
beginning with:
“All Muslims believe in the perfection of the Qur’an and strive to copy Muhammad’s example “
SpiritOf1683 says
Perfect men rob, murder, enslave, behead, conquer and enforce cruel and barbaric rule on those they subjugate, don’t they?
Jay Boo says
kikorikid
Saying that “Mohammed was mentally-ill” is fine but does not add anything new. Anyone can say that.
Islam is so full of emptiness
It cannot survive without
1 — Fear & Hatred
2 — Promise of release from fear and hatred with 72 virgins
gerard says
Why is this mad/evil ideology/religion still permitted in our country?
It is because those in charge have dropped the ball big time.
I see three abominations in western countries (there are others but I’ll just mention 3).
1. Sunday trading. This may not seem much but it represents the rot that has allowed Islam-creep. I mean the abandonment of the Biblical Faith of Jews and Christians which was the scaffold on which Europe and later USA, were built.
2. Abortion. In UK 500 babies are slaughtered every day in abortion clinics. To quote Mother Teresa: A nation that kills its own children is doomed.
3. Islam. To understand how Islam is taking over just look at 1 and 2.
(It’s worth noting that immigration has risen with the number of abortions.)
Champ says
How do you know if a “Saudi Official” is lying? His lips are moving …’nuff said :/
duh_swami says
Man, that was a pile, a really big one.
Allah revealed himself to be a terrorist in his book, The Quran. I’m sure you have heard of it. So if you worship Allah, you really can’t be against terrorism, or you are going against Allah. If you want to keep your hands and feet, or head, you do not want to get caught going against Allah.
tpellow says
A salutary series of articles (2008), which are well worth re-reading in the week of remembering 11 September, 2001.
” A Second Look at the Saudis”
Parts 1, 2, 3 & 4-
http://www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com/
wtd says
From the link you provided to “A Second Look at the Saudis”:
Rather than repost . .. See above posted comment @ 9:52 with multiple links to more details linking Saudi Arabia to all current jihad stemming from an incident in 1979.
SpiritOf1683 says
Muslims have been terrorists for 1,400 years, thick Saudi pigs.
onisac says
Lets not get the two cultures mixed up.
They are two very very different ways of live, religion,
cultures, commitments,motivations, faiths and ideology’s.
They will never think let Americans or Christians.
They I personally feel sorry for most of them.
Because they have been brain washed since birth.
They know very little about our way of live.
Just like we know very little about their way of life.
onisac says
Opps should be ‘They will never think like Americans or Christians’.
And I personally feel sorry for them. Not They I
Sorry about the mistakes. I drive a truck, didn’t work as a secretary.
Mirren10 says
This is classic ‘blame the victim’ technique, used by all abusers; “look what you made me do”. And islam is one huge abuse; of the rights, feelings, lives and property of others.
No doubt many in the West will fall for this, just as many abused victims do. “If I can just be better, more perfect, he/they won’t hurt me”. Vomit.
pumbar says
This can all be traced back to the OPEC boycott in ’73. Look at Lebanon, Egypt, Persia and Afghanistan before that date.
Until we can find a substitute for oil in plastics, transport and technology we are screwed.
AnneM says
The Muslims NOW are condemming themselves for 9/11? That is a change.
DiMu says
It’s time to rid the world of the pernicious ideology of Islam ONCE AND FOR ALL even if it takes carpet bombing! There is no reasoning with Muslims who take the Koran seriously.
voegelinian says
Don’t be silly; you can’t “carpet-bomb” 1.3 billion people whose diaspora exists spread out in some 80 countries around the world — including an alarmingly expanding one throughout the West (do you advocate carpet-bombing ourselves, too…?).
Jay Boo says
What about the moderate Muslim?
Bridgette Gabriel
Mirren10 says
Brigitte Gabriel is brilliant.
Below, see the pathetic waffling of the mohammedan ‘moderate’ bint, and her total inability to answer a straightforward question.
gravenimage says
Jay Boo and Mirren, here is my tribute to the marvelous Brigitte Gabriel, in my “Heroes Against Jihad” series:
http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/JWHBG.jpg.html?&_suid=141023602158001520358312409371
Mirren10 says
You’re a brilliant artist, graven. I like your portraits of Geert Wilders, and Wafa Sultan, also. May your paint brush never grow less !
gravenimage says
Thanks so much, Mirren.
I’ve gotten pretty wrapped up in my non-Counter Jihad work lately, though, and so have really neglected it.
Time to get back to work!
Custos Custodum says
An interesting but never discussed issue is this:
WHY DID SAUDI ARABIA SPONSOR THE 9/11 TERRORISTS?
Most of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi nationals, and there were many indications that Al Qaeda was receiving support from the very highest levels of Saudi society including the Saudi royal family.
What exactly did these Saudis hope to achieve? A perhaps surprising outcome of 9/11 (at least for outsiders to the Bush family and the Obama machine) is the RAPID SPREAD and deepening of political correctness and dhimmitude throughout America and (even more) in Europe and Asia following the initial 9/11 shock, culminating in the election of an all-but-avowed Muslim president in 2008.
Given that Saudi Arabia has retained top-notch PR firms in the U.S. since at least the 1970s, it is not inconceivable that the Saudis anticipated and aimed for this result as part of a long-term strategy of cultural undermining of U.S. institutions and society.
Angemon says
Custos Custodum posted:
“An interesting but never discussed issue is this:
WHY DID SAUDI ARABIA SPONSOR THE 9/11 TERRORISTS?”
Probably for the same reason it sponsors all kind of islamic terrorists – for all intents and purposes SA pays terrorists to stay away from Saudi Arabia.
gravenimage says
Saudi official: Western politicians and media linked Islam to 9/11, thereby driving Muslims to become terrorists
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How many times have we heard *this crap*?
That is we resist Jihad in any way—or even dare to notice it—that this is what will cause Jihad.
That this is the Saudis saying this—who sponsored so many of the hideous “Magnificent 19” 9/11 Jihad terrorists—is especially brazen.
But why not? They know that it it unlikely that any Infidels will call them on it.
Kepha says
Faisal Muammar is an Ishamaelite wild ass to the nth degree (Gn. 16:12). He’ll admit the responsibility of SA’s own Wahabbi-dominated educational system for 9/11 the day that the shrimp learn to sing.