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“The American Conservative” embraces the Islamic supremacist agenda

Sep 13, 2014 2:59 pm By Robert Spencer

The American Conservative (TAC) is a paleocon publication that counts among its founders Pat Buchanan and Taki Theodoracopulos, both bitter critics of Israel who have been repeatedly accused of anti-Semitism, so it is not surprising that it would be venomously anti-Israel. But now its opposition to American interventionism (which I generally share, and particularly share in regard to the Iraq and Afghanistan disasters) has driven it straight over the cliff into active support for the Islamic supremacist agenda of demonizing foes of jihad terror and friends of Israel, thereby clearing away resistance to the global jihad.

In the past few days they have published a new broadside against “Islamophobia” by the barely literate Kelley Vlahos, whose 2010 American Conservative piece attacking our opposition to jihad terror was so filled with spelling, grammatical and factual errors that TAC’s editor should have been fired on the spot. Vlahos still hasn’t mastered English, but apparently TAC has an editor now, as the only grammatical mistakes that made it to publication were the hapless Vlahos writing an “it’s” where she should have written “its” and misplacing a few commas; the factual errors, however, are just as thick on the ground as they are in any Vlahos piece. For example:

Meanwhile, well-funded fringe groups like Geller’s American Freedom Defense Initiative, [sic] have attempted to purge Muslim-Americans who have dared to “infiltrate” the White House and other high profile positions throughout federal government. They might have gone too far in 2012, however, when they suggested long-time Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin had connections with the Muslim Brotherhood.

There are so many errors in this paragraph that it is hard to fathom anyone publishing it, no matter how well it seemed to serve his or her agenda. AFDI is not, unfortunately, “well-funded”; we frequently rely on crowdfunding to enable us to get our message out. We did not attempt to “purge” anyone from anything. Calls for investigation into Muslim Brotherhood infiltration in the U.S. government (not “Muslim-Americans who have dared to ‘infiltrate’ the White House”) did not come from Pamela Geller or me, but from Representative Michele Bachmann, who is not mentioned in Vlahos’s piece. Bachmann is the one who suggested that Huma Abedin’s connections to the Brotherhood be investigated, and there are perfectly reasonable grounds for concern. The book Infiltration, which Vlahos links to the word “infiltrate,” is not an AFDI book or a book by Geller or me, but by the investigative journalist Paul Sperry.

The rest of the piece is just as full of errors, but the main problem with it is its use of the term “Islamophobia” as if it were a serious and genuine phenomenon. In reality, Abdur-Rahman Muhammad, a former member of the Muslim Brotherhood-linked International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), explains that “this loathsome term is nothing more than a thought-terminating cliche conceived in the bowels of Muslim think tanks for the purpose of beating down critics.” Beating down critics of what? Of jihad terror and Islamic supremacism, so that the jihad can advance unopposed and unimpeded. The American Conservative has now fully signed on with that agenda.

It has most likely done so out of its hatred for Jews and Israel. One prominent Catholic writer of my acquaintance, who writes occasionally for TAC, reveals his vile anti-Semitism after a few drinks; and in the last few days TAC has published not one, not two, not three, but four articles about Ted Cruz walking out of the Defense of Christians conference after being booed for speaking in support of Israel. Israel is on the front line of the global jihad. TAC doesn’t want to admit that there is a global jihad, as they’re much more concerned about “Islamophobia,” but in the real word, Jews and Christians (and Hindus, and Buddhists, and atheists, and every group in the jihadis’ sights) should stand together against a common foe that has vowed the subjugation or destruction of all of them.

The Middle Eastern Christians who heckled Cruz are Arab nationalists. In chapter nine of Bat Ye’or’s seminal Islam and Dhimmitude, she discusses at length the ambiguities of Arab nationalism, showing how as a movement it destroyed Middle Eastern Christian communities, dividing them and weakening them. Arab nationalism was also linked to Nazism and of course, theological anti-Semitism. In Sylvia Haim’s “Islam and the Theory of Arab Nationalism,” reprinted in Andrew Bostom’s The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, Haim quotes the founder of the Arab nationalist Ba’ath Party, Michel Aflaq:

Muhammad was the epitome of all the Arabs, so let all the Arabs today be Muhammad. . . . Islam was an Arab movement and its meaning was the renewal of Arabism and its maturity . . . [even] Arab Christians will recognize that Islam constitutes for them a national culture in which they must immerse themselves so that they may understand and love it, and so that they may preserve Islam as they would preserve the most precious element in their Arabism.

Haim concludes: “For Aflaq, Islam is Arab nationalism.” (Emphasis in original).

Thus TAC’s insistence that these Middle Eastern Christian leaders, as Arab nationalists, couldn’t, wouldn’t and shouldn’t support Israel is born of a myopic ignorance of the close relationship between Arab nationalism and Islam, and of how Arab nationalism has devastated the Christians of the Middle East by making them subservient to an Islamic agenda that ultimately has not spared them, and of how Israel is facing the same jihadist foe that the rest of the free world faces.

TAC’s Rod Dreher, whom I respect, points out that the Middle Eastern Christian leaders would have faced violent reprisals if they had publicly supported Israel, and that is a true and valid point — one which could have been conveyed without catcalls and heckling. And with James Zogby on the Advisory Board of the In Defense of Christians organization — a vehement anti-Semite who has referred to Israelis as “Nazis” — it is unlikely that safety concerns were the uppermost concern of the heckling audience. And in any case, the Christians in the Middle East are already threatened, victimized, exiled and murdered. To think that people whose home has been set on fire by arsonists will needlessly provoke those arsonists if they stand with the arsonists’ foremost enemy is to forget that the arsonists have already set their house on fire, and are not going to spare them.

Above all, to be excoriating Ted Cruz about Israel while publishing screeds about “Islamophobia” is to embrace a far more sinister agenda than any that Cruz may have had.

The American Conservative: a new servant of Islamic supremacism and jihadist anti-Semitism. It is not surprising, but it is shameful.

(Thanks to Bat Ye’or for the references.)

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  1. Stogie says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    The Paleocons have been far-left on foreign policy for sometime, believing in extreme pacifism in the face of evil. They are also prone to embrace absurd conspiracy theories like the 9-11 Truther movement, which is nothing more than abject denial of Islamic evil.

    They will never be a serious political movement because of this. They disgust me.

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 5:48 pm

      I know the type, and they disgust me, too.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 7:14 pm

      It’s not so much a mere pacifism, but the selective pacifism of a neo-Wilsonianism on steroids, and it goes back (at least in its latest phase) to the gold standard, the Bush Doctrine, with a Cheney behind the scenes enamored with Bernard Lewis (as Andrew Bostom has
      cogently informed those of us who care to take the time and trouble to read).

      • voegelinian says

        Sep 13, 2014 at 7:15 pm

        Of course, by “selective pacifism”, I mean a pacifism willing to indulge in military intervention in order to “grow” a “Middle Eastern peace” by “helping” Muslims “democratize”. Et fucking cetera.

        • Bezelel says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 10:01 pm

          Trying to democratize Gaza was how hamas got control? Wasn’t that the goal of arab spring too?

        • Oliver says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 6:40 pm

          To Mr Bezelel

          hamas won the election ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NONE SINCE.

          But, the lame stream media in the US & Europe seems to think that they (Hamas) are the good guys.

          Not sure who is sicker–Hamas or the western dolts and eleites and lame stream media (and those who beleive their bull—-.

          or, just more stupid.

        • Bezelel says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 9:41 pm

          to Oliver, Agreed that, nation building/manipulating to induce democracy in islamic controlled areas is an exorcise in futility.Democracy in an insane asylum? There are times when gunboat diplomacy is the proper thing to do. IMHO

    • Brian Hoff says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 10:10 pm

      Many people belive the 9-11 truther watch they video on u-tude which show it was than inside job done by neo-con in the america and israel government.

      • Kepha says

        Sep 13, 2014 at 11:04 pm

        @ Brian Hoff

        (!) PFthhhhpppplllkptf!

      • Angemon says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 7:33 am

        Here’s a nice video about 9/11:

        • Beagle says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 4:56 pm

          Any secret conspiracy theory sufficiently intricate which would require hundreds of people to remain quiet for years is always false, if for no other reason than money.

          Someone would have written a tell all under a fake name naming others. If credible and documented it could sell a hundred million books. There would be many other good reasons a true 9/11 conspiracy could not remain secret, but that one is sufficient.

        • Oliver says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 6:46 pm

          I was a young (elementary school–like 3rd grade), in NYC when the WTC was being considered. I remember going with older children ( probably one of my older sibling’s class) to a NYC Council meeting, to discuss this. , IE. building the WTC.

          The site, at the time, was home to perhaps a FEW HUNDRED small businesses, mostly involved in electronics (including televisiona nd radio parts, etc) and supporting businesses.

          IF THERE EVER WERE PEOPLE WHO WOULD WNAT TO DESTROY THE WTC ( BY PEOPLE I MENA HUMANS, NOT MUSLIMS) IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROEPRTY AND BUSINESS OWNERS, WHO WERE FORCED OUT, BY THE EMINENT DOMAIN LAWS.

          It would nto have happed a few decades later–in 2001, but in the 1980’s or 1990 at the latest.

          The “truthers” are full of feces, in my view.

      • Chabuco says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 2:08 pm

        Of course! Muslims had nothing to do with it. It’s always the fault of non-Muslims.

        Keep trying to cover the sun with your pinky. You sick fuck!

    • BC says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 6:31 am

      Rest assured pacifism and non intervention too Mr. Spencer will bring war and evil to your door, as it did to France and Britain in 1939/40. I do not understand
      your position against intervention. What is the point of having the most powerful and technological military in the world if you are not going to provide leadership in the face of tyranny as the US honourably did in WW2?

  2. Bassam says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 4:19 pm

    Thank you for a well thought of article. Arab Christians and other minorities living in so called “Muslim Lands”, which are lands that were taken by force and rapes from their Christian owners in the first place have learned to live as cowards and as people who will continually try to be more Arabs than Arabs, and even more Moslims/Muslms that Muslims themselves. Aflaq was one example. He was an appeaser to Islam, and ended up becoming Muslim himself in Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein. Because Christians have been treated as Dhimmis or a 2nd class citizens in the Islamic empires that governed those lands, and under what is called “Uhda Umaryia عهدة عمرية” , as “The Covenant of Umar”, or the Rules Of Omar Ben Khattab, the 2nd Khaklifah in Islam who conquered Egypt and Sham (Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, etc…), Which is a document that regulates the daily life of the people who accepted to pay Jizyah to stay Christians or Jews under , a document of colonialism that is absolutely unparalleled in any part of the long history of human beings not under colonialism, nor under any other form of occupation, example of what the covenant contains is: “Christians as well as Jews were prohibited from building or repairing ruined places of worship in Islamic lands. Other restrictions prohibited public processions, funerals or any mark of polytheism in public including wearing Arab garb. Other fundamental restrictions included the prohibition of teaching the koran to non-Muslims, while at the same time allowing non-Muslim children to convert or embrace Islam if they so chose to. “.
    Several clauses emphasized the superiority of Muslims; Christians were expected to behave respectfully to them and to give them priority in seating and in road, and to be treated as inferior in every way possible.

    So, one must understand the fear and the long feeling of inferiority to Muslims that Christians have felt towards their masters in their own lands until recently. One way to overcome this in the post colonialism era 19th, and 20th centuries was to lead in forming political parties that embrace Nationalism under which, perhaps Christians can be nearly as equal to Muslims. One necessary step would also be that Christians or other minorities will show a greater enthusiasm for liberation movement, the defense of prophet Mohammed himself when dealing with the Western World, the enmity to Jews to even a greater degree than their Muslims counterpart, etc…

    • Salah says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 1:34 am

      I’m an Egyptian Christian, and I STAND WITH ISRAEL. Always have, always will.
      My Lord is a Jew. God bless Israel.

      • harbidoll says

        Sep 15, 2014 at 3:16 am

        PTL ! , you have overcome the 2 great deception.- 1/st-replacement theology! It may have seemed to many Christians that G-d was finished with the Jews but the restoration of Israel disproves that point. 2/nd the constant brainwashing by muslems that jews are bad & their seemly “successfulness” in so many areas Must be by deceit & evilness. It is great to be free of those lies, & freedom tastes of reality!

  3. Erudite Mavin says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm

    Have read some of the articles over time in this magazine.
    Always interesting to see what the Libertarian – Paleo Cons are pushing.

    Using the name Conservative in their title is false advertising.

    The Paleo Cons who are behind this magazine support Iran, Syria, Russia,
    and set up Israel as the enemy and should cave to Hamas.

    Their leader Ron Paul states, Iran is not a threat and has a right to have nuclear weapons.
    Their Magazine should be titled “The Paleo Con Jihad Appologist”

  4. Wellington says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 5:01 pm

    When John McCain is singled out as a major trouble because he is perceived to be too harsh on Islam, and when Pamela Geller and her supporters are described as fringe material, this in and of itself serves as a clarion call to everyone of sense and knowledge that those making such accusations (e.g., Pat Buchanan) are, at best, silly people; at worst, traitors to America.

    My God, what a stupid time we live in. When even someone as uninformed about Islam, as John McCain surely is, is looked upon as too critical of Islam, and when someone as stalwart a defender of Western freedom as Pamela Geller surely is, is looked upon as a fringe character, the only conclusion that a rational and informed person can come to is that we live in a very silly, stupid and dangerous time. The Age of Nonsense I call it. It is an age like no other.

    And when you consider other “occurrences” which result, one way or another, in support of the wretched religious ideology which is Islam, as articulated by the Catholic hierarchy, from the silly new Pope down to sundry Cardinals and Bishops, from the current President of the United States, and from the present Prime Minister of the UK, all of whom have made ad nauseam excuses for the spiritual fascism which is Islam, well, doesn’t look good for the best which Western Civilization has accomplished, now does it?

    Again I assert, as I have many times, that Islam is “merely” the secondary problem. The primary probelm is the disgusting, inept, uninformed, craven, stupid, overeducated, pc/mc dominiated Western elites who continue to “bow” to the heinous ideology which is Islam. This would include Barack Obama, John Kerry, Pope Francis I, Hillary Clinton, Tony Blair and David Cameron.

    Shame on all of you. Deep, everlasting shame. In your own stupid ways, you are currently in the process of betraying the entire corpus of Western Civilization. And for what? For Islam?

    My God, this is the stupidity of stupidities in the entire history of man. Yes, the current crop of Western elites are arguably the vilest and stupidest collection of elites anywhere, anytime, in the entire history of mankind. No exceptions. Yes, that’s how “special” they are.

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 5:53 pm

      What else could I add? You’ve summed it all up. The Age of Stupid.

      • Kepha says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 7:27 pm

        I’ll respectfully disagree with my old friend Wellington here. It’s not the Age of Stupid, but the Age of Perverse Self-destructiveness. Perverse self-destructiveness is sometimes engaged in by people who are regarded as highly intelligent.

    • Tradewinds says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 6:11 pm

      “My God, this is the stupidity of stupidities in the entire history of man. Yes, the current crop of Western elites are arguably the vilest and stupidest collection of elites anywhere, anytime, in the entire history of mankind. ”

      Totally agree. Perhaps they’ve had secret lobotomies? Considering what is at stake – namely, our Western civilization – it’s simply unbelievable what’s happening. Charles Martel saved Europe from Islam in 732 – only for the 20th and 21st centuries to let the Muslims in en masse with the egregious lie “They’re just the same as us.” Now England and France are watching their Muslim “citizens” leave in droves so they can fight for the barbarism and savagery of the Islamic State. Well, what in the heck did you expect? NO, they’re NOT the same as us.

    • Bezelel says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 10:08 pm

      Age of stupid, reverse polarity of the moral compass.

    • pumbar says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 12:33 am

      Well said Wellington.

    • Champ says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 1:19 am

      Great comment, Wellington.

    • Salah says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 1:53 am

      “The Age of Nonsense I call it. It is an age like no other.”

      This is the age where Uglyness is called Beauty, where Evil is called Good, where Dismembering our unborn babies is called Pro Choice, where Sodomy is called Pride, and where Hip Hop and Rap din is called Music!!!
      That’s the age of Darkness.
      We need to go back to our great Judeo-Christian values before it’s too late.

    • harbidoll says

      Sep 15, 2014 at 3:41 am

      blinded by pride! example no. 1- the middle eastern religious leader insist that their fellow believers, brother in the faith call them “Your Holiness !! “(meaning Sinless One)!!! The whole premise of Christianity & other religions is that humans are sinners -or not there yet, not clear , incomplete , needs redemption or a Savior! All children of Adam.!! Their name/title is a LIE

  5. mortimer says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    What has Buchanan (a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans) been smoking? What does he have against Jews? Buchanan used the occasion of the 70th anniversary of the German invasion of Poland to argue that Britain should not have declared war on Germany. That was not only unwise, but totally at odds with the reality of the demonstrable evil of Nazism. Buchanan lives on a planet of his own. Pity.

    Muslim supremacists from the Muslim Brotherhood joined with Hitler to persecute Jews and fight America. Buchanan is making alliances with Muslim supremacists? Time for Buchanan to retire. He’s out to lunch.

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 5:59 pm

      Let him join the likes of Fr. Coughlin, Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, and the like, in the twilight of times forgotten.

      • John C. Barile says

        Sep 13, 2014 at 6:06 pm

        I have no use either for Catholicism of the character of Cardinal Primate of (pre-war) Poland Hlond or of (Nazi puppet) Slovak President Fr. Josef Tiso, to be sure. I despise “Catholic” anti-Semites, past and present.

        • Humanist TradCat says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 7:42 pm

          We’re not that way inclined.

        • Humanist TradCat says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 7:43 pm

          *all that way inclined, I meant to say.

          I too despise them, Bishop Williamson for example.

          Some are just ignorant. The secular media doesn’t help.

        • John C. Barile says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 9:47 pm

          And anti-Semites generally.

        • paleo con says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 10:01 pm

          I respect Pat Buchanan very much. Many other people do too. Every now and then you wonder what he smoking. For sure. He will drop a big klanger. But generally he is a breath of fresh air to many. And more so every day especially among younger people even in Europe and even in East Asia. But the American Conservative Magazine that he co-founded is not Paleo -Conservative any more.

        • nationalist but not socialist says

          Sep 13, 2014 at 10:28 pm

          It is the same thing that some Americans of African decent do when they throw away Thomas Jefferson or James Madison because they owned slaves. Or I might do with Thomas Paine because he was a virulent atheist. But i don’t do that because he was so valuable.
          But that is anyone’s privilege to like what they like or not like what they don’t.

    • John Magee says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 6:50 pm

      Why didn’t Britain and France declare war on the USSR, Germany’s ally since the end of August 1939, when the Soviet Union invaded Poland just over two weeks after Nazi Germany invaded Poland on September 1, 1939? The Red Army crossed eastern Poland and met the Wehrmacht at the Vistula River cutting Poland in half between the two invaders. Wasn’t it a bit hypocritical of Britain and France to not declare war on the USSR too? They both did little other than protest when the USSR attacked tiny Finland a short time later in November 1939. Yet when Hitler turned on his ally in June 1941 and attacked the USSR the USSR became an instant ally of the Britain, France, and a few months later the USA too after December 7, 1941 when Germany declared war on the USA on December 10, 1941. There is plenty of the same kind of hypocrisy floating around today on both the left and right about Israel.

  6. jewdog says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Indeed, Islam has subsumed Arab nationalism and used it to promote their supremacist agenda, particularly against Israel. Anti-Semitism is part of their toolbox. Lately, a significant group of Israeli Christians have seen through this scam and are joining the IDF.
    Meanwhile, back in the West, useful idiots fall for the same demagoguery. In Europe, where anti-Semitism is much stronger, native Christians think that they, unlike the Jews, will get along fine with the millions of Muslims they have allowed in. Who will speak out when they come for the Christians?

  7. Silvia says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    The beasts have beheaded British David Haines.

    May American bombs burn them to hell.

    • Amy Soldier says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 7:34 pm

      The definition of the perfect crime is the type of crime where the victim doesn’t even realize an act of wrongdoing has been committed against them. The longer the victim remains unperturbed, the more perfect the crime.

      I just Googled the words Turkey and ISIS. The listed headlines alone tell me ISIS and, forget the citizenry, the Turkish authorities are in collusion with ISIS. They are acting in concert, along with all the other Islamist nations of the earth. ISIS is a strategic endeavor, a ploy of the Islamist nations, to be used as a buffer for future Western aggression.

      When in one day, one morning half a dozen dirty bombs cripple large, major Western cities, Western intelligence will be steered to find ISIS linked as the perpetrators. And all the other Islamist nations are devoid of responsibility.

      No Western government can prevent how I will, in my lifetime, crush the West, were I one of many Islamist leaders of nations with resources to fund ISIS. It’s perfect. I even have the President of the United States in my pocket. The intelligence agencies of all Western nations have been compromised. No one in a position of power will find out in time, and then able to act to thwart our Islamist agenda.

      What could go wrong?

      It’s perfect.

      Turkey is the biggest, and most powerful Islamist nation. Make me President and they’re number one on the attack list. First, all Western people need to be informed and to realize the Qur’anic agenda of every leader of an Islamist nation. Then I’d attack.

      Dirty bombs won’t make this generation of weenies think straight.

      • . ~

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 8:50 pm

      You are the first to inform me of this, Silvia.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 9:17 pm

      Yes—I just heard about this latest Muslim atrocity on KCBS radio and sent the story in to JW, Silvia.

      May David Haines rest in peace—my thoughts are with his poor family.

  8. Humanist TradCat says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 7:40 pm

    I am a British traditional Catholic. I have noticed that other traditional Catholics often read their wacky right-wing political beliefs into Catholicism, just as Liberal Catholics read their left-wing ones into it. Usually I am annoyed by my fellow parishioners’ doctrinaire authoritarianism, that makes me think they would want to resurrect Franco. In this case, it is Buchanan’s possibly anti-Semitic ‘anti-Israelism’ and ‘anti-Zionism’. Then of course there’s Bishop Williamson with that whole Judeo-freemasonic Illuminati thing. The Jews don’t want to take over the world. On the other hand, there is indeed a group that is very open about its desire for world domination, and if you bash Israel or the Jews, well really, you’re siding with the real enemy.

    • Kepha says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 11:11 pm

      @HumanistTradCat:

      There actually is a very ancient conspiracy to put the world under the rule of a Jewish king. It’s called Christianity.

      • Mirren10 says

        Sep 15, 2014 at 9:15 am

        As an agnostic, Kepha, even I wouldn’t describe Christianity as a “conspiracy” !

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 1:47 am

      At least Francisco Franco offered some measure of protection to the Judeo-Spanish–as expatriated Spaniards–from the Nazis’ holocaust, through Spain’s diplomatic intervention; or so I understand.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 8:49 am

      @ the sub-humanist (Humanist TradCat )
      What a bunch of crap!

      I can’t believe people ate actually biting at this tainted bait.

      I am a (Fill In The Blank)
      As an official spokesperson for (Fill In The Blank) everything I say is official truth.

      Blah, Blah followed by more stinky Blah

      • Humanist TradCat says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 7:42 pm

        Why am I sub-human? For criticising anti-Semitism? Your assertion makes no sense.

        I do not pretend to be a spokesperson.

        What is your problem with me?

  9. chris c. says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    I have found much to admire over the years about the work of Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch. I have bought and enjoyed a number of fine books by him. However I must respectfully part company regarding the events surrounding the Cruz speech.

    Hatred of Jews is always contemptible, and we should clearly support the right of the people of Israel to live in peace and security. However the legitimate concerns of Israel are not the one and only matter of importance; the sole prism through which all analysis must be viewed.

    The attendees at the conference had what to them were more pressing matters in mind, namely the slaughter of their people. I suspect that Cruz may have theatrically planned and staged his dramatic “walkout”. I saw the speech and it sure looked staged to me. I suspect he saw this as a cheap opportunity to curry favor with power brokers in the GOP whose support and money he will need in the future.

    Rather than sincerely addressing the concerns of the conference, I would guess that Sen. Cruz expected to use them to score political points. with his base, and perhaps others of substantial money and influence. If so that’s politics. But he shouldn’t expect the beleaguered Christians of the Middle East to play along.

    • duh_swami says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 6:00 am

      You made that all up…See ya…

  10. gravenimage says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 9:35 pm

    Here’s more of The American Conservative blaming the Jooooooooos for the us engaging in “almost endless series of American wars and invasions across the entire Middle East”

    “ISIS, the Neocons, and Obama’s Choices”:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/

    Not all of these interventions have been wise, and they have not been well executed—but the idea that the US responding to violent Jihad being waged against us somehow makes us pawns of Israel is just grotesque.

    [Note: since this is a link to The American Conservative blog, the content is bound to change with time—but one should be able to find the story in future since I have provided the title.]

    • chris c. says

      Sep 13, 2014 at 10:02 pm

      We don’t have to believe that the U.S. is a “pawn of Israel” to know that our decision making in the Middle East has been questionable to say the least for a very long time. We have injected ourselves needlessly in the internal affairs of an area of the world that we know very little about in terms of the cultures, histories, friendships, and rivalries of the native people. The same kind of American arrogance that assumed we could manipulate the Vietnamese into submission to our will, is evident in the way we approach our decision making in the Middle East. Our conflicting alliances can only get us into trouble in the long run, while doing nothing to enhance the security and safety of the American people, which is after all the first order of business for a legitimate government.

      • paleo-con says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 11:38 am

        I think chris c had great posts.thanks.

      • paleo con says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 11:51 am

        I think chris c had great posts. thanks.

  11. paleo-con says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    The American Conservative may have been started by Paleo-Cons because they saw a deep need for their point of view to not be snuffed out. But it has not been Paleo-Con for quite some time. An occasional article- but very rare these days. If anyone knows a good Paleo-Con magazine i sure would appreciate it if they could share. The American Conservative has been possessed by the Devil and needs an exorcism.

    • Winston says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 8:55 am

      I posted the gist of this elsewhere, but…l

      I guess Taki’s Magazine would be considered paleocon. It is generally well written and often quite funny. But “Taki” is the Taki that R. Spencer mentions and Buchanan writes for them. I haven’t been able to read it for a while now because the anti-Semitism is astounding.

      • Humanist TradCat says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 7:45 pm

        We agree. Anti-Semitism is very wrong. Which is why I condemn it with one voice with you. I cannot understand your hostility to some of my comments, which as far as I understand, are in accord to the blog’s and the majority of posters.

        Are we using a different language or something?!

  12. Keith says

    Sep 13, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    The arab christians have to at least seem anti-israel for their own survival, they are a religious minority in a sea of islam and if the muslims saw them as pro-israel then they might face even more persecution.

    Any christian speaking at a arab christian event should simply ignore the israel issue. even if those arab christians did support zionism and israel it would not be a smart thing for them to say they did.

    And given the political climate in the middle east it is impossible to know what any of those arab christians true feelings on israel were… to assume they were being sincere is a rush to judgement.

    • sujith says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 1:00 am

      Does not supporting jews require booing those who support Israel ?

      Has this approach helped christians save their lives and property in Middle east ?

      If you are living in middle east its understandable ………but why should those living in America continue this self anti-israeli stance ?

      In fact , christians here should demand that until christians are allowed to return to their middle eastern , they wiil support Israel .

      That will show some spine …or they will get slaughtered anyway either in middle east or here or live like Dhimmis they are.

      if you wish to survive living among wolves , you need to support and be a lion …..or you end up like Dodo Bird.

  13. ApolloSpeaks says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 5:02 am

    PALEOCONS’ MEDIEVALISM

    Paleocons like Pat Buchanan rallying to the defense of Islamic supremacists doesn’t surprise me. For Paleo-Buchananites and Islamists have one huge thing in common: their love for the Middle Ages. Like Robert many of Buchanan’s Conservative critics aren’t aware that his maestro in political philosophy isn’t the sensible Edmund Burke, but the 19th century anti-democratic, counter-Enlightenment, Catholic reactionary Joseph de Maistre. Like de Maistre and our regressive Moslem foes Buchanan Paleocons hate freedom and progress and believe in three things: ALTER, THRONE and EXECUTIONER. Buchanan Paleocons and Islamists are the enemies of modernity. And though they hate Israel it’s not so much because it’s a Jewish state so much as it’s a modern democratic state -a source of freedom, enlightenment and progress disrupting to the point of violence the medieval Arab culture of the region. If, for example, Orthodox Jews were to take over Israel and transform it into a Torah State Paleocons would probably find it more acceptable, though Islamists would not and continue their murderous jihad.

    • ApolloSpeaks says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 5:10 am

      CORRECTION: And though Paleocons (like Islamists) hate Israel….

    • Humanist TradCat says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 6:24 am

      You are correct, there is a strong element of reactionary, authoritarian ideas among traditional Catholics. Especially in France, where you get that ridiculous monarchist legitimist crap.

      I know a lot of trads and they annoy me a lot. They think liberal democracy is the most evil thing ever, even though we have it damn good, and they complain all the time.

      They can be very heartless and anti-human. I had a horrible falling out with some over the treatment of working class women in Irish Magdelene laundries and various Irish issues. Of course Catholic Ireland was a miserable hell hole back in the day. They think it was paradise and would like to go back in time. For me, tradition is not about going back in time, it is about informing progressive growth with traditional values.

      Anyway, I didn’t much like their doctrinaire, rigorist attitudes, and I would not like to live under their rule (which by 2014 standards wouldn’t far of resemble Iran or the Islamic State ).

      But the point I’m making is, not all traditional Catholics are so. Far from it. In fact, like most European Catholics, I probably stand more left economically than Robert Spencer (this is not a criticism of RS who is wonderful). American politics can get very eccentric. I hadn’t even heard the term paleo-conservative until today.

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 9:05 am

        @Humanist TradCat
        You are a rank amateur liar

        You claim to be a traditional Catholic.
        Your first sentence in another post even begins by saying you are a traditional Catholic.
        But in this post and that other one you whole heartily denigrate traditional Catholics.
        You expect readers to believe that your belated trite qualifier that “not all traditional Catholics are so” will prove that you are bring truthful when you say that you are in fact a traditional Catholic.

        • Winston says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 9:16 am

          As a traditional Catholic, I have no idea what in the hell Humanist TradCat is talking about.

          They don’t mean to be rank liars. Their love of their own nuanced pseudo-sophistication has them running around in circles.

          I’m sure John Kerry calls himself a “traditional Catholic” once a week, depending on his audience.

        • nationalist but not a socialist says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 11:34 am

          Yes, Jay Boo that person is.

        • Humanist TradCat says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 7:12 pm

          @Jay Boo
          @Winston

          Oh for heaven’s sake! I am not lying.

          People on the internet can be really nasty sometimes.

          I attend an SSPX chapel in Scotland. If you deny that these types of folk I mention exist, then look no further to Bishhop Williamson and the ‘Resistance’ crowd. I have described them perfectly. Are you familiar with them? I know some. +Williamson denies the Holocaust and is a 9/11 ‘truther’. YouTube it if you don’t believe me. Father Paul Kramer calls Al-Quida “Al-CIAda”. They believe some really wacky, horrible things. Some consider Bishop Fellay (a man I respect) as a traitor, and collaborator with modernist Rome. This is true, their materials are all over the internet, don’t take my lying word for it.

          It would seem we traditional Catholics can never win. It is claimed that the people I describe don’t exist and Winston says he don’t know what I am talking about, so I am therefore a liar…

          Well I am sorry, conservative Catholics very often (most often) slur the SSPX as being “rad trads” and “right wing loons”, as exactly happened on a Catholic Answers radio show hosted by Patrick Coffin recently. A British Catholic Truth Society booklet titled “Catholic Traditionalism” also spouted all the old canards, linking the SSPX with Petain and the Vichy regime. These people are the ones who denigrate Traditional Catholics, surely? Or is it okay for them?

          I come on here to give a defence after a poster linked trad Catholics to far right ideologies and anti-semitism, and I try to support him, saying we are not all like that, and I oppose those people (you know, it is called giving an ‘account of the faith’, the evidently inept apologist I am) and instead the two of you gang up on me and doubt my sincerity, instead of supporting me. What am I supposed to say for you to believe me? It is like saying:

          Gunter: I am German.
          James: Oh really? So you are a Nazi then?
          Gunter: No. I don’t have those opinions, and I don’t associate with those who do.
          James: Liar! Liar! You are not German.

          I am trying to think what else I said that caused you both to accuse me. Paleo-conservative is not a term used in UK. Neither is libertarian. Liberal means something different as well. Political terms mean different things here, it’s a different currency, if that’s so hard for you to believe. You can’t transfer US political attitudes on to Europe, so if I say I am economically left wing and a trad Catholic, then I am. Most of us are here are, probably even Bishop Fellay, certainly John Paul II and Benedict XVI. You can’t apply your American democrat-republican dichotomy to us, it doesn’t fit. Ever hear of Belloc and Chesterton? Their distributist ideas are economically left of classical capitalist systems. (as it happens, “rad trad” John Vennari is also distributist)

          You accuse me of being a rank amateur liar, and generally not nice things about me. I believe this is the sin of rash judgement. What would I know? I am just a fake Catholic!

          As for my user name which you have taken offence to. Well, do you even understand what humanism is? You probably think it is secular humanism. It’s not. I am English, one of my heroes is Blessed John Henry Newman. He was a humanist. So was the great Chesterton, and Dorothy Day, who criticised Franco. Wikipedia it: Christian humanism. I could well have said Domicincan TradCat, Franciscan TradCat, Distibutist TradCat, SSPX Third Order TradCat. I am a humanist, and part of a great tradition of other Traditional Catholics going back to the middle ages and the Renaissance.

          But anyway, don’t believe a single word I say. *Banging head against wall*.

        • Humanist TradCat says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 7:54 pm

          I have re-read your comment, and I think you have grossly misunderstood me.

          Do you think I am secretly a liberal Catholic, trolling as to discredit the traditional position I supposedly subscribe to?

          If so, I am not sure what made you think this, perhaps it was this statement:

          “For me, tradition is not about going back in time, it is about informing progressive growth with traditional values.”

          On the surface, this may appear to be liberalism or modernism. It is not. Think about it. After the Reformation, did the Church decide to go back in time exactly to how the Church was in the 12th century? Why didn’t they? After-all, it was a golden age for Christendom and gave rise to the great Saints Francis and Dominic. Instead however, they convened the Great council of Trent, which brought about new reforms that were informed by the Tradition of the Faith. Do you see what I mean?

          Even Bishop Williamson (and believe me, I don’t support him) says that the attitude among traditional Catholics that we must go back in time to 1955 when the Faith was allegedly ‘perfect’ is a wrong attitude, a false traditionalism which he calls “fiftiesism”.

          (If you say I am such a bad liar, could it be perhaps because I am not lying)

        • John C. Barile says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 9:16 pm

          @HTC:

          I myself am Catholic; I believe in the Nicene Creed and in all that the Church holds and teaches. Never did I intend to say that Catholicism = Anti-Semitism. That is not to say that anti-Semitic strains of thought aren’t to be found among us.

        • John C. Barile says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 9:32 pm

          HTC,

          I see no reason that you should remain with the Society of St. Pius X outside of communion with the Church. Others have returned to full communion with the Church who celebrate the Tridentine Mass, so I’m mystified why you aren’t among them.

      • ApolloSpeaks says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 11:10 am

        Good post HTC. Real conservatism is “informing progress with traditional values” to keep progress from collapsing into moral anarchy and chaos leading to loss of liberty. Paleoconservates, on the other hand, believe tradition can’t hold anarchy-causing-progress in check and want to roll back the clock to pre-modern times-which explains their identify with Islamic supremacists who are waging a similar struggle in the Middle East to keep progress from killing traditional Moslem values and medieval Arab culture. And that war, among other things, means destroying modern Israel, which Paleocons think desirable to keep medievalism alive in the region and world.

        • paleo-con says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 11:37 am

          and another one misrepresenting things.

        • Humanist TradCat says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 7:34 pm

          Thank you so much.

          I am passionate about my faith. I am a traditional Catholic. I love the Traditional Latin Mass and lament the Crisis in the Church. I think all of this evil coming from Islamism, the genocide, the persecutions was prophecised by Our Lady of Fatima, who promised to bring peace into the World. I believe she has the power to do this, and will do this, and conquer this evil once and for all. Indeed, the feast day of the Holy Rosary is on the 7th October, the anniversary of the defeat of the Muslims at the battle of Lepanto, which Catholics attribute to Our Lady’s intercession. She saved Europe once, She will save it again!

          In spite of being an SSPX supporter, as hard as it is for the posters above to believe me, I also hate anti-semitism, and consider myself a tolerant, decent, compassionate person, who believes in freedom and abhors totalitarianism in all forms (Shariah-Nazism-fascism-Communism). I am not at all like some of the folks I describe (who they deny exist when a trad Catholic testifies to them, but it is okay for Coffin of Catholic Answers et al to discredit us by constantly focussing attention to them).

          I am confused at their reaction. Perhaps they are ignorant of some of the toxic elements which are attracted to this movement, who threaten to destroy it. Thankfully, Williamson was expelled and many of his followers left with him. I do my best to promote the Traditional faith, and to repair the damage these toxic types do/have done. So it is disheartening for my fellow Catholics to accuse me like this. If Winston really is a traditional Catholic, surely he would agree with me? I am utterly confused.What am I supposed to say?

          Perhaps they think I am practising some type of traditional Catholic taqqiya? I say we are decent, just people who don’t believe in the Holocaust etc. and they say I am lying.

          I don’t know what they meant. I think I have been understood. I support this website and Robert Spencer. I am against anti-semitism. And like Winston and Jay-boo I support Traditional Catholicism. I have tried to be courteous and charitable. If I have not, then please correct me, I appologise. What on earth is the problem?

          Talk about friendly fire! Honestly … or perhaps not in my case ; )

        • ApolloSpeaks says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 10:01 pm

          @paleo-con

          Is Pat Buchanan’s admiration of the anti-democratic Catholic reactionary de Masitre among the “things” about paleocons you say I’m “misrepresenting?”

        • ApolloSpeaks says

          Sep 15, 2014 at 8:33 am

          @Humanist TradCat

          After researching the Battle of Lepanto I too see God’s providential hand in Don Juan’s astonishing, Europe-saving victory-as I see His hand in the Global War on Terror which George Bush, our 43rd President and man of faith, initiated on October 7, 2001: the 430th anniversary of Lepanto. I completely disagree with those who say that our intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan was a mistake. Though it seems that way there are many signs to the contrary-the above being one of them. I’ll be writing on this subject at www,apollospeaks.com.

        • ApolloSpeaks says

          Sep 15, 2014 at 12:11 pm

          @paleo conservative

          Does your respect for Buchanan go all the way to his admiration for the medieval restorationist de Maistre?

      • landover baptist church says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 10:04 pm

        you two got some Chutzpah.

        • paleo conservative says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 11:11 pm

          I respect Pat Buchanan. and yes, you are mis- representing Paleo conservatism. Why that may be only you know. I expect you will be successful.

          I view it as chutzpah- just like the other two “Catholics” up here. Enjoy yourselves.

          I came to put in a good word for Paleo- conservatism for those who are interested and to say that the magazine is not paleo-conservative anymore that much. The “Islamaphobia” article and some others was an affront. Almost like a mean prank. There are many like that. anywoo…..

  14. duh_swami says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 6:04 am

    If you believe Allah is God, then you are with him. If you do not believe Allah is God, then you should stand with Israel against Allah and his relentless attacks…

  15. Brooklyn Dave says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 8:02 am

    As a reader of both your main site “Frontpage” and the American Conservative, plus a number of libertarian on-line publications, I feel my opinions are some-where in between the two. First of all, total pacificism is like urinating up a rope and not expecting it to dribble back all over you. It just doesn’t work. Most libertarians I know are not total pacifists, but are aware of what the military-industrial complex consists of and that the USA is not supposed to be empire. Your site has given me much more insight on the nature of Islam (esp. the writings of
    Mr. Spencer) and its agenda in thee world. Raymond Ibrahim has been writing and speaking about the plight of Christians in Muslim countries for years like a prophet crying in the wilderness whose cries are not heard by many. There is some attention paid to this in libertarian publications, but not enough. Yes, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have been debacles. I do believe Israel played a part in getting the US involved initially (as well as major arms industries), but a clueless policy on the part of Bush II, and which continues full speed under Obama, is responsible for this travesty. As far as the state of Israel is concerned, my criti-
    cism is more with how it functions in regards to its dealing with the US (and its influence) and not so much with how it deals with Palestinians and the Arab nations that surround it. Nothing it cut and dry, and I will continue to read both
    your on-line publication as well as the American Conservative and others.

  16. Winston says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 8:26 am

    Though I don’t read The American Conservative, I receive Taki’s Magazine in my inbox every day like Jihad Watch.

    Although I find it well written and often very funny, I have quit reading it in the last couple of months because of Taki Theodoracopulas and Pat Buchanan and an overwhelming anti-Semitism in the comments by its readers.

    I’m not Jewish. But it’s beyond offensive. It’s barely believable.

    • paleoconservative -nationalist but not a socialist says

      Sep 14, 2014 at 12:37 pm

      Thank you Winston. I just checked out Taki’s Magazine. Much appreciated.

      Yes i notice that anti-semitic feelings seem to be on the rise and i suspect will continue to grow stronger- for some “reasons”. Some of those “reasons” do not seem to be because of the State of Israel or the “Palestinians”. I have often heard that it must be that they suffer from irrational pathology and jealousy or perhaps Christian teachings or a sense of white supremacy or contact with Muslims that is causing these sentiment to rise and no other reasons than that.

      • Winston says

        Sep 14, 2014 at 2:07 pm

        Honestly, with the Taki’s crowd, it seems to be a libertarian aversion to religious belief in general. Their view of Judaism is akin to Nietzsche’s–a mere precursor to the “slave morality” of Christianity.

        But then again….. There’s that something else. And it gets really nasty. I can’t print what I’ve been called in defending, say, Mark Levin.

        • paleo conservative says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 7:11 pm

          I’m not a Libertarian but didn’t know they had an aversion to religion. Now that you mention it, though, some definitely do want to irradiate all vestiges of such from public-kinda like French Revolution ideologies. “Religion is fine as long as it stays in the heart and you do it behind closed doors and draw your window shades.” Not US Revolution. Many similarities but the tiny differences are huge.

          Ron Paul,though, is devout Christian Protestant-Like the Quakers or Mennonites or something like that- and for that reason i think he approaches his libertarian views from a completely different road than most of them. Some just are loosey goosey and want to turn the world into Babylon and because the peksy rules and social mores are cramping their style. Other’s maybe like Nietzsche’s view of things. I don’t see the world as he did. I think he had some pretty big inaccuracies.

          Other’s like Ron Paul want people to be free to Pursue their Happiness as per Socrates and our Founders. Happiness in that sense meaning choosing to cultivate, nurture and care for one’s Soul the best one knew how. To choose Virtue. Self governance = Freedom to govern one’s self. I like him very much. He is a decent man in my eyes. I don’t agree with some things though.

          While Libertarians have a some values in common with Paleo-Conservatives. A good deal of their ideas are incomparable or even irreconcilable with Paleo- Conservatism.

          Thank you again Winston. And thank you Mr. Spencer.

        • paleo conservative says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 8:17 pm

          I like Mark Levin too.

        • paleo conservative says

          Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 pm

          I wish i would have spelled something right. I’ll just be avant garde – like the Picasso of spelling. Oh well. I’m just a farmer with no farm.

  17. Bezelel says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 am

    Christians who are against Israel are spiritually matricidal.

  18. Dennis Trisker says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    I am pleased to see this article. We always attack the left. But the Conservative Right is no better !

  19. Nancy Madson says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    What do.you mean about Uma Abedin! !! Her mother is prof at muslim univ..she was raised muslim and she is not connected to mus brotherhood…what dreamland are you living in?

    • John C. Barile says

      Sep 15, 2014 at 10:30 am

      Huma Abedin?

      Let’s see:

      http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2556

  20. herbert says

    Sep 14, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    “[even] Arab Christians will recognize that Islam constitutes for them a national culture in which they must immerse themselves…”

    Culture? of beheading???
    Boy! SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST UTTER MORONS!!!

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