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UK: Islamic supremacist Fiyaz Mughal complains of “Islamophobia” after Muslim beheads elderly woman

Sep 6, 2014 11:26 am By Robert Spencer

FiyazMughalTaqiyyaThe dishonest and discredited Islamic supremacist victimhood propagandist Fiyaz Mughal of Tell Mama is crying about “Islamophobia” instead of doing what he should be doing, if he really is what he claims to be: confronting the texts and teachings of Islam that justify violence and supremacism and working to reform them in a genuine and sincere manner, so as to remove their capacity to incite people to violence. The hard-Leftist World Bulletin reported:

Fiyaz Mughal, director of Tell Mama, told The Guardian newspaper that the think tank recorded a sudden spike in the number of threats made against Muslims and mosques on social media as well as in the streets of Britain.

“The assumption is that ‘beheading equals Muslim.’ The association, for some, is an automatic response,” Mughal said.

In this case, however, the culprit was not a Muslim.

Oops.

“Nick Salvadore, suspect for beheading of Palmira Silva, is would-be cage-fighter and Muslim convert,” by Patrick Sawer, Gordon Rayner, Keith Perry, Tom Whitehead and Tom Brooks-Pollock, the Telegraph, September 5, 2014:

The man accused of beheading a great-grandmother in her back garden is a would-be cage fighter who converted to Islam five years ago, it has emerged.

Nicholas Salvadore, 25, was charged late on Friday with the murder of 82-year-old Palmira Silva, who was hacked to death in an apparently random attack on Thursday afternoon. Mr Salvadore was also charged with assaulting a police officer.

Mrs Silva is understood to have been attacked by a suspect who had argued with his flatmates minutes earlier, prompting them to flee in terror in a car as he smashed one of its windows. The killer then beheaded two cats, ranting as he did so, before targeting Mrs Silva.

A neighbour said the suspect had told her a week ago: “The police are looking for me, but they can’t find me, I’m going to hide.”

Neighbours said Mr Salvadore had been living with friends a few doors down from Mrs Silva in Edmonton, north London, for several months and was well known in the area, where he was nicknamed “Fat Nick”.

An hour before Mrs Silva’s murder, Mr Salvadore had been involved in an argument at the local Nightingale Café, where he ordered a takeaway burger and left without paying.

Fatima Altun, 20, who works in the cafe, said: “I went after him and said ‘You haven’t paid’. He gave me the money, it was £3, but he was a bit angry about it. To me he seemed a bit depressed or upset about something.”

He was also involved in a row with a local taxi firm last year. A shopkeeper in Nightingale Road said: “I don’t know what the argument was about but it ended up with him breaking a window.”

Khairul Islam, 40, who runs an Internet cafe close to Mrs Silva’s home, said: “He’d come over quite a lot and search the internet for things like cars. He was one of these people that just hangs around, a bit of a ruffian but never violent to me. He seemed OK, just a loafer.”

Lewis Young, 24, a tattoo artist who attended the local Nightingale Academy secondary school with Mr Salvadore, said: “At school he was just a normal bloke. He has seemed pretty cool. I just can’t believe he could have done something like this.”

Mr Salvadore had ambitions to become a cage fighter, but had gone off the rails and was known locally for dealing drugs.

Another acquaintance of Mr Salvadore said: “He was having problems at work. He’s just been sacked. He’d had problems with drink and drugs in the past.”

Dave Jensen, 52, a builder who once employed Mr Salvadore as a labourer, said he had converted to Islam five years ago.

However he added that he had never behaved aggressively regarding his religion or beliefs.

Mr Jensen said: “Nick told me in passing he’d turned to Islam, about five years ago. But he wasn’t in your face about it. He didn’t try and convert others or talk about religion and politics at all.

“He worked for me off and on, labouring and clearing rubbish in houses round here.”

Police disclosed that it took almost half an hour to arrest the suspect after the first 999 call was received at 1.07pm on Thursday. A police helicopter was overhead by 1.12pm, by which time it is thought Mrs Silva was already dead, and officers on the ground “contained” the suspect as he roamed between back gardens before he was finally cornered in a house and arrested at 1.35pm.

Witnesses said two young boys were in the house where the suspect was held, and described police smashing a window so their mother could hand them to officers and then scramble clear of the house herself.

The alleged killer was shot with a Taser during his arrest, and spent Thursday night in hospital being treated for injuries sustained in a struggle with police, but was discharged on Friday morning and taken to a police station for questioning. Scotland Yard said the murder was not related to terrorism….

After arguing with his housemates and chasing them into the streets, the killer is said to have grabbed a machete and shouted: “Where are the cats?” and “The cats have stolen my lighter.”

Witnesses said he went from his own back garden into the next door garden, where he beheaded a cat before going into the street and butchering another cat. He then ran through the front door of a house that had been left open, got into the back garden and from there went into Mrs Silva’s garden….

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  1. epistemology says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 11:53 am

    Western converts to Islam are traitors to our wonderful culture, they’re scum. They don’t deserve any pity, just get rid of them.

    • Paul says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 1:21 pm

      Your “wonderful culture”??

      Hahahahahahaha

      • Istanbul_Chick says

        Sep 6, 2014 at 1:42 pm

        Racist. Bigot. Anglophobe.

        • mortimer says

          Sep 6, 2014 at 3:14 pm

          Exactly…let’s just spin this around…how about…

          “MUSLIMS ARE THE REAL VICTIMS HERE! Our custom of beheading is TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT!”

          Ha.

        • Chris says

          Sep 6, 2014 at 8:08 pm

          Anglophobe? mmmm, I like it. Nice one, I think I will use this word myself. I just hope its as effective as Islamophobe. Thanks 🙂

      • Maria says

        Sep 6, 2014 at 9:07 pm

        If you, and other Muslims, don’t like our culture…then leave and return back to your Islamic crapholes.

        • Laura says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 5:17 am

          Maria… the problem (for us) is that they don’t recognise our borders, they believe that the world belongs to their god and that they are entitled to invade non-muslim countries and treat the ‘unbelievers’ with contempt and disrespect as they gradually convert the entire world to islam.
          The strategy seems to be working…aided by the craven politicians of all the western nations.

      • Wtf? says

        Sep 6, 2014 at 9:29 pm

        Muslin=Terrorist=Beheading=Death=Islam=Murder=Deceit=Welfare Bludgers=Wife Beaters=Pedophiles=Corruption=Middle Eastern
        Need I say more?

        • Laura says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 5:26 am

          Wtf…indeed, but you can never shame them, no matter how terrible their crimes, it will always be someone else’s fault.

        • Helmuth says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 4:51 pm

          Yes. SUPREMACIST, RACIST, MENTALLY INFLICTED (MED) MONSTERS.

      • rhondajo says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 3:51 am

        Yes, our wonderful culture. You know, the one which every person from every country in the world wants to come to so badly that they break laws, suffer hunger, thirst, abuse etc to get here. We are the greatest nation on the planet, because the higher power Creator, blessed us. And, we will continue to be the greatest nation on the planet as long as God allows it. But He will have to rid our White House and our federal government of all of the criminals first. BRING IT ON!

      • Laura says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 5:32 am

        Do you have a problem with English culture?

        • Wtf? says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 6:31 am

          Islam=Terrorism
          This is the inescapable stereotype the Muslims have created since 9/11. It will never go away and it will become an accepted description of all Muslims in the millenia to come. As political correctness is abandoned as free democracies realise they are fighting for their survival the words of Winston Churchill will ring true again. When describing Nazism he quoted that this was a fight for the survival of the Christian World. Alibeit the Western World. The time for fighting will come, the Muslims will lose again and will raise their ugly heads again until this cancerous cult is extinguished.

      • Oliver says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 7:03 pm

        SCUMBAG, (nicest thing I can think of) IF YOU DON’T LIKE THE WEST, GO BACK TOM PAKISTAN; IRAQ; IRAN; SYRIA OR WHATEVER SHI-HOLE YOU CAME FROM.

        AND KILL YOUR OWN-MUSLIMS.

        • Oliver says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 7:05 pm

          This WAS ADDRESSED TO PAUL ( second or so post) but applies equally to ISTANBUL CHICK.

          Mot sure why posted here. Not a techie.

        • Istanbul_Chick says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 10:39 pm

          I am not a mohammadan. My reply was to Paul, assuming he was snarkily laughing at Western civilization, which in my opinion is the greatest ongoing creation of mankind. Hence the reason I turned the tedious and mendacious cry of “islamophobe” back at him by calling him an Anglophobe.

          If you care to scroll down you can read my second post on this article declaring my hatred of every single mohammadan supremacist on the planet due to their duplicitous cries of “islamophobia” especially in response to yet another heinous attack by one of their fellow supremacist cultists.

        • Oliver says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 7:09 pm

          This is addressed to PAUL, WHO HAS THE SECOND COMMENT. i TRIED TO (CLICKED REPLY–UP THERE) BIT IT POPPED UP HERE.

        • Jack Gordon says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 7:23 pm

          What is so comforting, though, and too often forgotten by even those instructed enough to know what a total fraud Mohammedanism is, and therefore what supine asses its apologists like Obama are, is how the Great False Prophet was finally done in (Allah be praised for this act of mercy toward us all!). The entire life of this stinking liar and guttersnipe pervert was devoted to hating Jews and denigrating women. And how did the old child-raping bastard finally kick the bucket? Why, at the hand of a woman, a Jewess no less, who had the good sense to poison the desert flimflam artist! We should erect a statue of her in the central square of every city and hamlet in the civilized world!

        • Oliver says

          Sep 8, 2014 at 10:15 am

          To Istanbul Chick

          When I read your post, I DID NOT REALIZE it was in response to Paul.

          i read it as a response to “epistomology”.

          I read it (incorrctly, as it turns out), you were mocking him.

          I apologize; i did not see your second post until later.

          O.

    • rhondajo says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 3:46 am

      You are so correct! Western converts to Islam have a deep down desire and need for violence. They want to murder, rape, torture and decapitate. They think that by joining IS that they will be able to commit these violences without repercussions. SICK!

      • marky says

        Sep 8, 2014 at 9:56 pm

        Thats exactly why muslims preferred targets to get to pervert to islam are people so very allmost like them, ie corrupt people, especially criminals… they also like to target the mentally ill.

  2. Charli Main says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Another one of those Muslims that have been making an ” enormous contribution” to Britain ah la Dave Ben Ali Cameron.

    • Jade says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 1:32 pm

      And from Barack Hussein Obama: ….” the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy”. Ah yes, where WOULD our countries be without Muslims.

      • Neil Jennison says

        Sep 6, 2014 at 6:24 pm

        Bizarre! What exactly has been the contribution of Islam to democracy?

        Here in the UK it appears to massive corruption of the postal vote system.

        Yes, Labour made it very easy for everyone to have a postal vote in a desperate effort to get the apathetic socialist vote out. What happened was massive corruption in the areas dominated by Muslims.

      • Jack Gordon says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 9:45 am

        Right you are! Why I get tears in my eyes just thinking about all the Muslims who died for our freedom at Bunker Hill. Then there was the Muslim Brigade at Gettysburg, you remember, the one honored by Abe Lincoln himself. And what about those lusty Mohammedan warriors who charged up San Juan Hill behind Teddy Roosevelt? And the 20th century? Why filled to overload with turbaned warriors in American uniforms! Iwo Jima, Battle of the Bulge, they were there when it counted with a Koran stuffed in their knapsacks. So many photos of Imams ministering to fallen GIs! And this doesn’t begin to address the thousands of scientific contributions of Mohammedans to our culture! How many deadly diseases tamed thanks to their discoveries! And what about the countless American statesmen who figure in history books around the world thanks to their fidelity to Sharia? Oh, and don’t forget our movie stars who have charmed the world from behind those demure veils! How wise our fearless leader Barack Hussein Obama was to remind us of this glorious history!

        • Nan says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 1:57 pm

          Well they are responsible for the formation of our Navy and Marines…

        • Oliver says

          Sep 7, 2014 at 10:10 pm

          But, Mr. Gordon,

          You are forgetting the valiant, noble Muslims,, who in WW2 fought to (help get ) (German) Field Marshall Rommel to Cairo. ( To slaughter the British).

          Unfortunately, general Rommel ( who was, or was suppsoed to have been, _i was not yet born, nor even a twinkle in my parents eyes) a soldier, not a Nazi, was defeated at El Alemain.

          There were tears shed, i read, in cairo- the British ( and by extension, the US) woul defeat germany.

          How could we forget theis contribution?

          And, i BELIEVE I READ–but do not recall where– that there were Muslims fighting with the Nazis in WW2.

          (Would not surprise me).

          But you are correct.

          The greta Muslim contibutions to the world.

          Homicide bombings and vests to carry it out; roadside bombings; destroying historical / priceless/ irreplacable works because of another faith.

          Yes, great contributions.

        • Jack Gordon says

          Sep 8, 2014 at 8:00 am

          Oliver: It’s so hard to remember ALL the contributions Mohammedans have made to world culture! You’re quite right about Muslim participation on the German side of WW II (was there any real choice once the Mohammedans discovered Hitler liked Jews about as much as they themselves did?). Indeed, it was none other than the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el-Husseini, who helped raise up the gallant Bosnian Muslim division of the SS whose deeds live on in…uh….memory.

          Somehow, though, I don’t think you’ll soon find Angela Merkel emulating our Great Leader, Barack Hussein Obama, in his fantasy description of Muslim contributions to our past. She wouldn’t have to make stuff up as he did, and unlike him, she knows that what really happened is simply too embarrassing to mention in polite society.

  3. george bento says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    Muslims must feel ashamed by these multiple violent behavior and try confront themselves with dismayed reality of their own religion. Islam is a troubled religion with many seeds of intolerance and violence. Instead of playing the victim card they must reform their religion and ask apologies for what islam is.

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      What upsets Muslims the most is that their wicked cult is being exposed for what it is. Islam isn’t a troubled religion – it was designed for brutality and batrbarity and it has caused so much suffering on this planet for the past 14 centuries.

  4. tpellow says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    For professional Muslim Mughal, the victim isn’t non-Muslim 82 year old woman who was beheaded by a Muslim; according to him, the victim is the whole of Islam!

  5. tony says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Aparently Islam also equals hatred of kids cartoon “peppa pig”and yes like many sensible folk i also fear Islam (phobia)I also avoid clifftops and walking into traffic.
    Equals wisdom!

  6. IQ al Rassooli says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 12:44 pm

    Fiyaz Mughal like ALL Muslims is a spineless, duplicitous, mendacious creature who plays the VICTIM card. Throughout the history of Islam, Muslims were NEVER the victims but always the aggressors.

    By the way, ISIS (ISIL, IS) is doing humanity (in general) a great favour because more and more people have awakened from their indoctrinated state of DENIAL regarding TRUE Islam as perfectly demonstrated by IS who are only emulating their most ‘perfect’ male human being ever created called Muhammad bin abd Allah.

    One should also point out to all Muslims and their apologists regarding Islamophobia on a once and for all basis:

    Those who use the term Islamophobia regarding people who fear Islam are either utterly stupid, ignorant of the meaning of the word or deliberately and maliciously misleading people who are Quran ignoramus and hence not knowledgeable of the true implications of the term.

    When the word Phobia is used, it is invariably used to mean IRRATIONAL FEAR, not just simple fear.

    Such as Arachnophobia (irrational fear of spiders); Acrophobia (irrational fear of heights) and almost a thousand more such irrational fears (just Google the term and be astounded).

    Islam’s publicly declared intentions for all of humanity for the last 1400 have been and continues to be the same:

    1 To convert all humans to Islam whether they want to or not
    2 To be eternally subservient to Islam in humiliation and degradation forever under Sharia
    3 Failing the above, to be exterminated

    Hence based purely on logic NOT fearing Islam would be IRRATIONAL while fearing Islam which wants none Muslims DEAD is totally RATIONAL and hence using the term Islamophobia against those who reveal the FACTS about Muhammad & Islam is an irrelevant oxymoron.

    IQal Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • mortimer says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 3:18 pm

      I propose the name “Allah ibn Mohammed”.

      Mohammed begat Allah out of his sick imagination.

      • Jay Boo says

        Sep 6, 2014 at 5:41 pm

        That would explain why helpless cry-baby Allah throws temper tantrums.

        Muhammad’s baby speaks from his “seat.” His dogma is a diaper.

        “WHEN THE DIAPER GETS FULL IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.”

    • Neil Jennison says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 6:09 pm

      Fair point. There is nothing irrational about fearing Islam.

  7. Arjay says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    He left a restaurant with food and didn’t pay. That is called stealing… so the murderer is a thief as well.

    Beheading cats is ANIMAL CRUELTY.

    And when you are doing Allah’s work by beheading a little old non-Muslim lady then THAT IS TERRORISM RESULTING IN DEATH OF AN INNOCENT.

    You definitely know this is taking place in a civilized Westernized developed nation. Why?

    Because the TERRORIST who SLAUGHTERS OLD WOMEN… was taken to the hospital AND TREATED FOR HIS INJURIES. Some other 3rd world hell hole would have tossed his rear into prison- after beating the tar out of him and he would have had been nude and laying on some concrete floor.

    Ooops waitiminnit!!!! If the 3rd world nation was izslime-ick then he wouldn’t have been arrested at all… but regarded as a hero.

    His “injuries” were from tazing… and NOT a gunshot wound.

    EUROPE… YOU NEED TO ARM YOU LAW ENFORCEMENT… though with the muslim infiltration armed cops would probably just shoot the non-muslims.

    And of course the main issue with this article… is that WHENEVER muslims commit horrible acts of murder and terror (which is all the time) the muslim world NEVER acts with revulsion over the horror… but uses it to complain about NON EXISTENT islamophobia to of course advance the Islamic cause of muslim control and sharia dominance.

    And on a side note… first a young father, husband and soldier… Lee Rigby is beheaded after being hit by a car… and now little old ladies… the UK needs to be bracing for when the Muslim revolt happens… non-muslims will be losing their heads.

    • Nan says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 2:03 pm

      But only Muslims are considered innocent under Islam so he thought he had the right to kill anyone or anything he chose to.

  8. Peter says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Maybe the real issue is Islamic “Infidelphobia.”

  9. Beagle says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:03 pm

    I really enjoy the “Son of HAMAS,” speaking of Islamophobia. Despite the allegations, videos even, of the Son of HAMAS saying things in Arabic which are not entirely in accord with what he says in English, what he just said on FNC was a major slap of reality you just don’t get anywhere but counterjihad blogs.

    Paraphrasing:
    “Stop saying anything but Islamic State. IS is the embodiment of Muhammad based on the Quran and other Islamic sources. The IS is not twisting Islam, but taking it literally. Muslims everywhere tend to be delusional, pretending Islam is not as bad as it is, or support IS. Support for IS cannot be diminished by claiming it’s not Islam.”
    — —

    Like any sensible person on planet earth, I WISH that was not reality. Obviously that’s a tough situation for humanity going forward. But pretending that is not an accurate basic summary of where we find ourselves is far more dangerous than accepting reality and dealing with it. Which is hard to believe given how dangerous reality has become.

  10. somehistory says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:11 pm

    People feared mobsters and gangsters after hearing of shootouts and cement shoes. People fear when a rapist is on the loose and when a serial killer is roaming an area, finding victims.
    It’s natural not to trust when trust has been violated.
    Who else, besides muslims, have been beheading others? This guy crying foul over the truth becoming all too obvious is just too foolish.
    And trying to shift the victim status from the little grandmother who probably never hurt anyone to the creatures who would like to, is despicable. And he probably thinks he’ll get more money from exploiting this depravity.

  11. Beagle says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:17 pm

    More directly on topic.

    We see a huge infight between the pen and tongue jihadis like Fiyaz Mughal, ISNA, MAS, or CAIR-WTF, whose emphasis is on daw’ah and happy propaganda, versus the head-chopping sword jihadis. Sword jihadis have a great argument that Muhammad by the end favored their version of Islam far more than any other. But their satanic antics make it tough to sell Islam to typical Brits or Americans, the ones with common sense and eyes to see.

    As I’ve said in the past, the good cop-bad cop dynamic of the pen and tongue versus the sword jihadis is far more effective than either by itself. Most non-Muslims are so confused by what is going on they assume one side is correct, nearly always the pen and tongue jihadis, when in reality both types of jihadis can point to Islamic scripture and history to justify their approaches. The problem of course is that the violent jihad tends to abrogate (naksh) anything else.

    But look how successful the pen and tongue brigades have been at intellectually disarming the entire non-Muslim world. Their deceitful views dominate every western government, education, entertainment, and nearly the entire mainstream media globally. That is a far greater accomplishment than beheading two American journalists or conquering Mosul and Raqqa Province in Syria.

    So, cheers! to you, Fiyaz Mughal, you magnificent lying sack of pig excrement, I read your book.

  12. jewdog says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:27 pm

    Do Muslims ever acknowledge Muslim guilt when their victim is non-Muslim? I know that after terrorist attacks in Israel there have been denunciations by PA spokesmen, but the standard statement is that it makes them look bad, that it’s bad for their image. That accords with the statement by Mughal here, in that his primary concern is Islam and what people think of it, and not so much the non-Muslim victim. It’s all part of the supremacist double standard from an ideology that devalues the lives of the Kuffar in relation to the Ummah.

    • Beagle says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 1:47 pm

      Exactly. The image of Islam is their only concern. The lives of non-Muslim naji kufr (unclean unbelievers) is no more important than worrying about excrement or semen stains.

      People like Fiyaz Mughal are so steeped in the duality of the Islamic belief system that even when shrewdly propagandizing they often tip their hands. They just are not capable of thinking of human lives as equal. Don’t get me wrong, many Muslim apologists in the West are fantastic at using our terminology against us, far better than the average westerner understands Islam. Even the maniacal Anjem Choudary can deploy leftist talking points the way a Robert Spencer can quote the Quran. The disarming liars of the Middle East Studies Association are even better.

      Ultimately though, someone believes what they believe. People tend to drop subtle clues about their higher purpose and core beliefs no matter how good they are at hiding it. Fiyaz Mughal, as you say, cares primarily about making Islam the only religion, sharia the only law, and Muslims the only rulers (jihad, the struggle in Allah’s cause). Hurting the image of Islam, from the pen and tongue perspective, tends to make all that more difficult.

  13. gravenimage says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    UK: Islamic supremacist Fiyaz Mughal complains of “Islamophobia” after Muslim beheads elderly woman
    …………………………………

    Well, of course! A Muslim beheads an *82-year-old* great grand-mother in her own garden, abut the “real victims” are Muslims whose neighbors may now look at them askance…

    More:

    “The assumption is that ‘beheading equals Muslim.’ The association, for some, is an automatic response,” Mughal said.
    …………………………………

    And why might that be?

    Perhaps because Muslims are beheading Infidels and the “insufficiently Islamic” in the Islamic State—are, in fact, lining the streets of Mosul with their heads, and are releasing videos of small boys holding up severed heads—and a British aid worker is threatened to be next after the beheading of two American journalists?

    And perhaps because not long ago a pair of pious Muslims beheaded a young off-duty soldier, also in the streets of London?

    Really, why else would Infidels—even those who have no knowledge of the Qur’anic urging to “strike the necks” of unbelievers—have the assumption that “beheading equals Muslim”?

    • Neil Jennison says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      Ah, but Isis Muslims are “Islamists” – not the cuddly, friendly, Muslim you find in your local western Mosque. They don’t believe those awkward verses about killing the Kafirs, or subjugating the Dhimmis and extorting the Jizyah from them. They are not in their Qu’ran.

      Surely you know Islam is a religion of peace and religious freedom?

      • Nan says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 2:12 pm

        I’m sure you mean “religion of pieces” and that “everyone has the freedom to be Muslim.”

  14. Istanbul_Chick says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    I must say this. This faux and tedious victim-mongering by the mohammadans is why I hate, with every fiber of my being, each and every one of them.

    An 82 year old woman was *beheaded* and two innocent felines slaughtered and rather than condemn the monster who committed these heinous and unforgivable acts they attempt to whip up sympathy for themselves with tall tails of “backlash” which (in my opinion) are long overdue. I really am at the point where if that backlash were to happen I would not care at all.

    Forget about their bronze age cult and the no True Scotsman fallacy of claiming this monster “isn’t a real muslim.” If they just expressed even an inkling of shock, horror or outrage at the brutal and unthinkable manner in which this woman was murdered perhaps I might not loathe them so much. However, they never do that. They always express shock, horror and outrage at the “islamophobia” and “attacks” they erroneously and deceitfully claim they are subject to.

    In no sane, moral or just world are the beheading of a pensioner and some mohammadan witch getting her slave rag tugged equally heinous. Yet mohammadans and their pc mc lapdogs would have us believe so and will call us racist, bigot and islamphobe if we rightfully determine not to believe their immoral equivalency.

    Silly mohammadan supremacists, it’s not the media or the Spencer and Gellers of the world “painting a bad picture” of you that fill me with nothing but contempt of you. It is you. You and your narcissistic crying wolf all the time.

    • Beagle says

      Sep 6, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      Quote from Istanbul_Chick:

      Forget about their bronze age cult and the no True Scotsman fallacy of claiming this monster “isn’t a real muslim.”
      — —

      This cannot be pointed out often enough. The entire Islamic dissimulation industry, including the propaganda peddled by Obama and Kerry, is based on a logical fallacy.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

      I have mentioned this dozens of times on the Internet in various places. I like the way you think.

  15. Human says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm

    Why are muslims of Pakistan more Islamic radicals than any others?

    They are not even considered true muslims by Arabs, the muslims from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are treated like filth.

    I think this is the reason why they want to prove themselves to Arabs.

    One eg is Anjem Choudhary- from his surname I am sure his ancestors were hindus. They must have gone through hell for them to leave their faith of thousands of years.

    I do not know why after learning the true nature of Islam they do not come back to their ancestral faith but ignite more hate towards hindus! I had asked this question to Tarek Fateh too! The muslims of Pakistan and Bangladesh have cleansed the hindus completely! World does not want to know or talk about them! The true holocaust of hindus!

    • Nan says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      Bangladesh and Pakistan were partitioned from India at least in part to create Muslim homelands for them to avoid killing Hindus.

  16. Andy says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 3:23 pm

    Thats the beauty of islam. Killing, beheading, bombing, torturing, fighting, shooting are the words which always associate with islam.

  17. tpellow says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 4:16 pm

    Come on, Mughal: who is the barbaric Muslim perpetrator?:-

    “Nick Salvadore, suspect for beheading of Palmira Silva, is would-be cage-fighter and Muslim convert”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11078451/Nick-Salvadore-suspect-for-beheading-of-Palmira-Silva-is-would-be-cage-fighter-and-Muslim-convert.html

  18. tpellow says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    That excellent pamphlet:

    ‘Islamophobia’

    By David Horowitz and Robert Spencer.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/upload/pamphlets/Islamophobia.pdf

  19. pdxnag says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 4:23 pm

    Any Muslim who is confronted with the stark truth about Islam need not reform Islam rather than simply declare himself an apostate. This is the most direct way to announce that they oppose some tenets of Islam.

  20. Relic says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    tell ma/ma

  21. Anon says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    I’m sure the Oslo-wannabe UK will give him a large carpeted cell living area with television, sauna, mini-bar, catering, internet access, etc. because there’s still a 0.001% chance he can still be reformed.

  22. Semeru says

    Sep 6, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    And on the other hand

    There had been reports Salvadore was a Muslim convert and the killing was linked to terror but friends tonight dismissed the claims and believe something made him flip.

    His best pal Alfie Keys said: “None of that is true.”

    He later wrote on ­Facebook: “This person that did this mental crime was not my pal Nic, but someone who has lost his mind… and clearly lost it.

    “We were like family. He killed my pal’s cat which he would never do. He loved animals and life.

    “He was not a terrorist, he was a sick man with no family and no one to help him. I’ve had him sleeping at mine and would trust him around my mum brother and ­girlfriend.

    “Don’t tell me he’s this monster. He lost it and ­probably doesn’t know what he’s done.” more here

  23. BC says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 5:47 am

    I think both Ms Geller and Spencer have lost the plot here. Starting yelling terrorism before all the facts are known is just playing into the hands of your critics. This man is obviously a mentally disturbed person wno has shown evidence of instability before.. Since when have Muslims sought out cats (that steal lighters) to behead and when have harmless old ladies been a focus of terror attacks by Muslims? They attack those they see as enemies. Muslim + beheading does not make a terrorist attack. Maybe he was inspired by videos to behead her, maybe not. Would be cage fighters are not known for their brilliance and logic.
    If the police, whom you malign constantly, had said it was a terrorist act, there could have been immediate retaliation against any Muslims in the area, and there are a lot it appears. In fact as it happens there were some incidents.
    You both claim not to be against ‘ordinary peaceful’ Muslims, yet by getting hysterical about an incident before the full facts are known is just putting aforesaid Muslims at risk by encouraging ‘Islamophobia’. Thus you play into the hands of your critics.
    Think before you write please.

    • Jay Boo says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 6:08 am

      You bring up interesting points
      but I don’t find the premise that you cite:
      “Ms Geller and Spencer … yelling terrorism before all the facts are known “

    • Nan says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 2:30 pm

      It is only Muslims who place no value on life.

    • Uncle Vladdi says

      Sep 7, 2014 at 5:17 pm

      Islam is the idol they worship, the excuse they use for everything they do, both good and bad; it is predeterminism, the notion that they have no self-reliant responsibility, no free-will.

      Giving people the irrational alibi-excuse for their false right to remain irresponsibly wrong, is what CAUSES MENTAL ILLNESS in the first place.

      Please read the following:

      “Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse to pay Jizya tax.” (9:29)”Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” (3:85)”Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” (8:12). “O believers, fight the unbelievers around you” (9:123).

      Sura At-Taubah 9:29 commands Muslims to wage war against Jews, Christians & Zoroastrians until we are subjugated and submit to extortion.

      Or, 24:55 (allah’s promise of world domination): “Allah has promised to those of you who believe, that He will most certainly make them rulers in the earth.”

      Muslims are urged not to be friends with anyone who is not Muslim (4:144, 5:57 and 5:51: “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends”) – hey! This is “God” talking!

      EVERY IMAGINABLE CRIME IS OFFICIALLY COMMANDED TO BE COMMITTED BY ALL muslimS AGAINST ALL THE NON-muslimS IN THE WORLD FOR ALLAH!

      9:120 promises Muslims that any hardship endured in aid of trespassing against disbelievers will be imputed to them by allah as a righteous good deed.

      Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:

      “I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”

      – Muhammad –

      Moe’s last speech to his followers on Mt. Arafat:

      “I descended by allah with the sword in my hand, and my wealth will come from the shadow of my sword. And the one who will disagree with me will be humiliated and persecuted.”

      Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!

      Sura 48:20: “Allah has promised you abundant spoils that you will capture, and He has hastened for you this, and He has restrained the hands of men from (defending themselves from) you, that it may be a sign for the believers, and that He may guide you to a Straight Path.”

      Islam specifically endorses backwards, evil behaviour: “might makes right, us versus them, and the ends justify they means.”

      But in reality, the means really only ever define the ends results: when you lie, murder and otherwise steal to get your way, in the end you aren’t a great success; you are still really only a lying, murdering thief!

      The ‘theological’ notion of Allah’s “oneness” is CRUCIAL to their main criminal, might-makes-right alibi, that:

      “we aren’t responsible, and no one is ever really a criminal anyway, because we’re really all only victims:

      “The Allah Made Me Do It!”
      “In fact, I didn’t do it at all – only the allah did it! Whee!”

      [8.17] So you did not slay them, but it was Allah Who slew them, and you did not smite when you smote (the enemy), but it was Allah Who smote, and that He might confer upon the believers a good gift from Himself; surely Allah is All-Hearing, Knowing.

      Sura 4:77: “Those who whined “Hold back your hands (from attacking)” were corrected:
      “War is compulsory for us – the good and bad both come from allah!”

      As Muhammad himself put it, “I have been made victorious through terror” (Bukhari 4.52.220).

      So, islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!

      Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:

      “God told us to commit these crimes!”

      (Capisce?)!

      😉

      We have laws against being a member of a crime gang, even if one doesn’t specifically engage in any crimes beyond one’s own membership therein endorsing the general threat. In sharia, all muslims are supposed to be regarded as “Objects of Fear” by all infidels, even if the specific muslim hasn’t committed any crimes!

      Threats are crimes in themselves – they are psychological attacks, also known as intimidation, bullying, coercion, duress, harrassment, activist agitation, extortion, and “terrorism.”

      And even any “only” attempted crimes, are still considered by civilized people to be crimes.

      According to their own most official Eastern histories, (Tabari) islam has an official 1,400 year history of “holy” lies, extortions, robberies, tortures, arsons, kindappings, slaveries, rapes and 270 million murders (that’s OVER A QUARTER-BILLION INNOCENTS SACRIFICED TO ALLAH, so far – it’s A LARGER DEATH-TALLY THAN THAT OF EVERYONE ELSE, (both secular and religious,) COMBINED, and with an historical average of less than 1% of the global population to have committed it with, too)!

      Do the math: 270 million divided by 1,400 is almost 200,000 per year, or over 500 per day, or over 20 per hour or about one person every three minutes being murdered by Muslims ever since Islam was founded.

      So, simply and precisely because of their “THOU SHALT KILL!” cultural indoctrination, MUSLIMS ARE STILL FROM BETWEEN FOUR AND SEVERAL HUNDRED TIMES MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN MURDER (and all other crimes,) THAN EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD!

      We should simply BAN ISLAM – because everything muslims pretend to consider “holy” is already a crime!

      ;-(

      The Qur’an clearly and specifically tells muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Jews and Christians are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for their “crime” of not being muslims.

      So, if and when you, as a multi-cultural leftist, choose to consider islam to be “a religion,” then you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?

      Bottom line: If you decide to believe in “allah,” whether as a holy-mobster “muslim,” or as a complicit and willing accessory enabling the war-and-plunder-cult, you have declared yourself a criminal, and so must be arrested, indicted, tried and convicted. And you muslim’s confession of “faith” in your crime-god will help us to do so.

      • Jack Gordon says

        Sep 7, 2014 at 5:29 pm

        Someone said cutting cats’ throats doesn’t fit the Mohammedan MO? Well, the lad was a convert and since he wasn’t brought up properly, told by dad how to rape efficiently and draw that knife across a throat cleanly, he simply had to practice before killing a kafir. That’s where the animals enter the picture…I mean the cats, not the Muslim.

        • Oliver says

          Sep 10, 2014 at 10:20 am

          Mr. Gordon,

          i agree 100+% with your comments to Mazo.

          I would also say, i would not mind seeing Muslims devoured by any species of animals; or if thousands of them kill thousands of them (of other sects) ( like in Syria, Lebanon, etc BUT ON A LARGE SCALE).

          Just leave us non Muslims alone.

  24. DiMu says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Obviously he was a disturbed, rootless, messed up man who turned to Islam to give him the discipline he couldn’t give himself. In another situation he may have joined an English gang. But BECAUSE Islam is the most brutal of all gangs enjoying huge notoriety, it attracts people like him who therefore become its soldiers. Radical Islam uses terrorism and therefore its combatants are terrorists, therefore this murderer IS a terrorist.

  25. Uncle Vladdi says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    Re: “Scotland Yard said the murder was not related to terrorism….” Says it all!

  26. doreva says

    Sep 7, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    if he’s a “convert” to islam then he’s a muslim, right? or is the guy making the accusation just showing how deeply racist and elitist “islam” is because by that reasoning, only “born” and “brown” muslims are muslims and “converts” are not really “muslims”….hmmmmmm….oh well, anyways, Islam is a horrible, nasty, destestable religion…why would anyone not born into it want to join up with such a despicable thing?

  27. Neil Jennison says

    Sep 9, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    So this Abu Hurayrah bloke had a cat? Why does that make cats special in Islam? The main man himself had slaves, are slaves special in Islam?

    • Semeru says

      Sep 10, 2014 at 7:20 am

      Neil Jennison said
      So this Abu Hurayrah bloke had a cat? Why does that make cats special in Islam?

      This bloke Abu Hurayrah could be the reason why moslems hate dogs. According to lore, after embracing Islam Abu Hurairah looked after the mosque and Prophet Muhammad. He made it a regular habit to give the left over food to the stray cats. Gradually the number of cats around the masjid (mosque) increased. He loved to caress and play with them. Hence he got the name Abu Hurairah – Father (care taker) of kitten.

      Abu Hurayra was the one accused most of fabricating hadiths. Aysha, the Prophet’s wife always accused him of telling inaccurate or incomplete stories and of fabricating hadiths that she never heard the Prophet saying. He was also known to have prejudice against women and dogs. He produced some of the most insulting hadiths to Muslim women, and hadiths that call for the killing of the dogs.

      Cats are not regarded as Najs (dirty, harum) in Islam, in fact the domestic cat is a revered animal in Islam, admired for its cleanliness.

      Which makes very unlikely that this guy was a moslem, and this incident cannot a sudden jihad syndrome,

      • Neil Jennison says

        Sep 10, 2014 at 8:57 am

        I see. Well its good that Muslims are nice to one of God’s creatures anyway, just a shame it is not humans.

        When this story broke I was concerned that the police missed out the obvious and pertinent information that the perpetrator was a Muslim convert.

        Then I urged caution that it was possible he was just a madman despite being a convert.

        It seems he probably was just a madman after all even if he used beheading as his chosen method because it is the Muslim way.

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