What took them so long? Anjem Choudary for years has been preaching jihad and sedition, and praising Islamic jihad murderers. He was a friend of Mujaahid Abu Hamza (aka Michael Adebolajo), who murdered soldier Lee Rigby on a London street, and other jihadists. It has struck so many people so odd that he has lived and operated freely in Britain for so long that it has long been widely rumored that he was really a spy, a “honeypot” to attract genuine jihadists who would then be arrested. But apparently he wasn’t. Unless this arrest is an elaborate ruse, it makes clear that Choudary’s longtime freedom was just more of the British government’s suicidal appeasement policy toward Islamic supremacists.
“Anjem Choudary held in London terror raids,” BBC, September 25, 2014:
Nine men, including the radical Islamist preacher Anjem Choudary, have been arrested in London on suspicion of being members of a banned organisation.
Officers are searching 18 premises in London and one in Stoke-on-Trent.
The Met Police said it was part of an ongoing inquiry into Islamist-related terrorism and not in response to any immediate threat to the public.
Mr Choudary is the former UK head of the Islamist group al-Muhajiroun or Islam4UK, banned in the UK in 2010.
The arrested men, aged between 22 and 51, are being held at police stations in central London.
Anjem Choudary is a deeply controversial Islamic figure, a man who many Muslims despise because they believe he causes enormous damage to their position in British society.
Alongside another now-banned cleric, he once spearheaded Al-Muhajiroun, a group that argued that the West is fighting a war against Muslims and Islam.
When the government banned the group, some of its former members founded new organisations, including Islam4UK and Muslims Against Crusades – which were also later banned.
The latter group’s protests against British soldiers returning from Afghanistan, prompted right-wing extremists to launch the English Defence League.
Mr Choudary has always denied allegations that he has either incited or glorified acts of terrorism.
In a statement the Met said the men were being held on suspicion of being members of a proscribed organisation, supporting a proscribed organisation contrary to Section 11 and 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000 and encouraging terrorism, contrary to Section 1 of the Terrorism Act 2006.
Police said a number of residential, business and community premises are being searched; 11 in east London, one in west London, one in north-west London and five in south London.
A residential property is also being searched in Stoke-on-Trent.
The arrests were carried out by the Met’s Counter Terrorism Command (SO15).
Michael Copeland says
Unfortunately sedition has been made no longer a crime in UK.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6244-sedition
Beagle says
That Samir Khan quote is a must read for everyone.
I remember when he was blogging from his parents’ house in North Carolina, abusing the freedoms he wished to destroy.
Thanks for showing me your work at Liberty GB. I check it out regularly. The UK needs more Islamorealism.
Michael Copeland says
Thank you. Robert Spencer is my main source.
Michael Copeland says
I meant to include also that I appreciate your contributions to this site. Posted too soon.
eib says
I think the older structures of sedition and treason must be reinstated. Anyone connected to a treasonous act, the murder of Lee Rigby, for example, no matter how remotely, should be charged. Only then will the entire Muslim community be put on notice about loyalty.
Aardvark says
But when was it last used?
Don't tell the muffin man says
18th century I think?
salamander says
It is said that a man who represents himself in court represents a fool, well Choudary is a lawyer and most definitely a fool, here’s hoping he gives it a go and talks himself into a nice long stretch , be good not to see his ugly, smug face around for a while. Alas having seen the British justice system in work he will be back on the street in a couple of days bristling with indignation at the effrontery of police who are now targeting Muslims who express their opinions. We should be petitioning Cameron for our very own Gitmo , unfortunately there are many in the uk who hold views similar to Choudary but not as stupid to be out in the streets mouthing off
Keith Breedlove says
If he’s convicted, like he deserves, they better put him in solitary or he’ll just be proselytizing in the prisons. As if the UK (probably) and the US don’t have a major problem with that now.
tpellow says
“Islamic State is the kind of society I’d love to live in with my family,
says British hate cleric Anjem Choudary as he insists he DOESN’T know beheader ‘Jihadi John.’ ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746660/Islamic-State-kind-society-I-d-love-live-family-says-British-hate-cleric-Anjem-Choudary-insists-DOESN-T-know-beheader-Jihadi-John.html#ixzz3EKRJJvy0
Aardvark says
Surely the government could arrange that for him?
A one-way trip to Syria would be much cheaper for the UK taxpayer than the free house, free car, free pocket money etc that Choudary is currently claiming!
Abdul says
Keep on wondering why we Muslims have allowed such scum to represent us. We should have bumped the fellow off a long time back.
Pr126 says
Yep, Andy gives away the game. Telling folks what Islam holds in store for us.
Unfortunately, very few believes that he is telling the truth.
john spielman says
Abdul, that’s the problem with islam. It is a barbaric religion of revenge and counter revenge, all in the name of Allah/(Satan to Christians). islam allows individuals to punish others in the name of allah/Satan because allah is not able to defend himself (unlike YHWH)-God the almighty who says “vengence is MINE, I will repay!”)
sammy says
Abdul:
Too much truth for you Abdul spoken about your faith from someone who knows how it should be put into action correctly?
Maybe it’s time for you to question your role in such a faith which commands death, or violent subjugation to those who do not wish to be part of it.
Eels says
Do you mean bumped him off theologically or literally?
Mirren10 says
”Keep on wondering why we Muslims have allowed such scum to represent us. We should have bumped the fellow off a long time back.”
*Of course** you should ! Murder without judicial process is a speciality of you mohammedans. Anyway, I thought all you ‘moderates’ were constantly telling us Anjem Choudary does **not** represent you. So which is it, does he, or doesn’t he ?
The only reason you call chowderhead ‘scum’, is because he makes **islam look bad**.
Hey, the IS is making islam look even **worse**; are you going to get your arse over there, and ‘bump them off’ as well ?
Face it, Abdul; Choudhary, and the IS, *are* islam – you can’t fool enough of us any more !
BW022 says
No one person, or even a small minority, can make any group of millions, let alone hundreds of millions, look bad.
If a Jaine or Buddhist were to claim responsibility for a car bombing… they wouldn’t make their religions look bad… everyone would assume that they were either lying about being a Jaine or Buddhist or a complete on-of whack job.
The only reason Choudary makes Muslims look bad is because he reminds people that Muslims clergy, teachings, books, actions, etc. already look bad. He isn’t a one-of whack job… he’s one of tens of thousands or millions of whack jobs. And it reminds people that this certain religion seems to attract whack jobs, and its teachings are based off a whack job, and it’s other religious leaders are whack jobs. He reminds people that one religion above all others claims an unreasonably high number of anti-social, violent, oppressive, etc. followers.
It isn’t Choudary making the religion look bad… it is Choudary drawing attention to a religion which already looks bad.
Bill says
Abdul: Mr Choudary reminds one more of Muhammad than your obvious indignation, whether real or fainted.
Joseph says
Abdul you don’t have to bump anyone off all you have to do is speak out against such an evil person and those that think like him.
Adam KM says
What is the bloody point in fighting ISIS but continuing to allow these barbarian hordes into this country and giving them free education so they turn into educated barbarian hordes, alas Southampton University, where Anjem was educated on route to inspiring killer of Lee Rigby. Get these scumbags out of my fucking country by any means necessary!
epistemology says
Poor Anjy! Boohoo I feel so sorry for him. He’s a freedom fighter in the just cause of jihad and the police arrest him. How will he feel in the slammer, now?
Seriously, it takes ages for Europeans to wake up and realise that jihad is a real danger and take appropriate measures. All over Western Europe it’s the same problem. Our Eastern neighbours are cleverer. They don’t let the muzzies in. They’ve learned from history.
David says
Anjem in jail in Britain? Maybe the sky will fall next! Let’s see how long he is in for now. I have a love/hate relationship with him; on one hand he’s a filthy piece of crap, on the other hand at least he comes out & says what he thinks, no taqiyya with him, & because of this other Muslims hate him because he says what they think, but won’t say.
berq says
These muslim thuggishs are inciting resistance to lawful authority in UK. We british must say to Islam and its milloions of ignorant delusional idiot follower that Islam represent deadly clash of civilization.You muslims here have chosen to live in UK ,you should abide by its rules nobody is holding you here aganist your will.Muslims if you don’t want to live with british kafirs in peace, please leave the UK, Muslims enjoying equell human rights in the UK but they are asking more than the native citizens of the UK.They infiltrate Government offices and public administratives.They are expert getting public money under false pretences.Unfortunatly immigration and integration of muslims into UK has not gone well because of the hate ideology of Islam.
mortimer says
Support candidates that oppose further Islamization of UK.
Arafat says
OT…
Duke University and its newspaper is one of the bigger supporters of Islam and haters of Israel out there in the American university system.
Here are two articles published today in the Duke Chronicle illustrating this. Please take the time to write a comment slamming these articles, their authors and Duke more generally for creating an atmosphere where these types of articles are commonplace.
http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2014/09/24/american-jew-palestine
http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2014/09/24/isis-and-its-enemy-pluralistic-dialogue-and-understanding
ECAW says
Test – can’t post this morning.
ECAW says
Test2.
ECAW says
Bugger me! Test OK. Real post reated as spam.
ECAW says
This is what I really wanted to write:
We have to acknowledge that we owe Choudhary a profound debt of gratitude. He has been working tirelessly for years to alert us to the danger of Islam, whether consciously or not we’ll probably never know. Without him we’d still be two years behind.
But why did HMG pull the plug eventually? Done his job and surplus to requirements? An opportunity for Dave to look like he’s doing something? Who knows.
ECAW says
Hooray!
Mirren10 says
” An opportunity for Dave to look like he’s doing something? ”
I think that’s probably it.
voegelinian says
“We have to acknowledge that we owe Choudhary a profound debt of gratitude. He has been working tirelessly for years to alert us to the danger of Islam…”
I disagree. In a sane world, your logic would be cogent; but in our PC MC world, your logic has little effect. Indeed, it’s worse than that: in the PC MC perspective, a Bad Cop like Chowderhead functions all too effectively as a contrast by which the millions of Good Cop Muslims (the “moderate” Islamopologists (e.g., Maajid Nawaz) along with all the ordinary Muslims in our societies who seem passively harmless and radiate “diversity” which makes us feel better because we can feel “tolerant” of them) look “Good” in the eyes of our Mainstream.
This Good Cop/Bad Cop tactic wouldn’t work if it weren’t for innumerable gullible dupes among us in the West; and part of the gullibility involves paying too much attention to the flamboyantly extremist Muslims like Chowderhead. The Counter-Jihad needs to focus more on the seemingly benign Passive Muslims (and their smaller propaganda wing, the Passive-Aggressive Muslims).
voegelinian says
And I note that commenters Kenny and Dan Triplett echo this rather one-dimensional view expressed by ECAW. The more that a Chowderhead displays his Islamic candor, the more that the clueless PC MC majority among us say, “Yes, he’s a radicalized Islamist extremist — unlike all the nice Muslims we all know.”
ECAW says
voegelinian – In my one-dimensional view you are quite wrong about this. By us I mean the wider population of Britain not those of us who have already twigged.
What happened after 50 people were killed on 7/7? Nothing much. We grumbled then went back to sleep. What happened after Choudhary abused returning dead soldiers? The Daily Mail got on his case (not for any principled reason, but so what?) and the EDL were formed.
If it weren’t for Choudhary the besuited stealth jihadis would still be doing their work invisible to the majority. Now, and especially after the Trojan Horse episode and the emergence of ISIS, people are at least wondering whether these two faces of Islam might be connected.
Angemon says
ECAW posted:
“If it weren’t for Choudhary the besuited stealth jihadis would still be doing their work invisible to the majority. ”
Yup. I believe I said it a couple of times here on JW: I love Choudary for the fact that he doesn’t try to make islam palatable to gullible westerners. He can’t, or won’t, play possum, even though it would on his best interest to do so. You can see on his interviews and debates that he stands by, for example, stoning for adulterers and amputation for thieves, and he can name the islamic sources for it.
I don’t remember who, but someone debating Choudary on islam summed him up nicely. He said something like “I’d love to be able to take Mr. Choudary wherever I go to talk about islam, it would make my job much easier”.
mortimer says
No doubt, Anjem Choudary was a very effective “honeypot to attract genuine jihadists who would then be arrested”. Most of his violent followers have been arrested and taken out of circulation either by imprisonment or parole restrictions.
There is no question that Choudary glorified jihad, encouraged it and recruited for it. He took every opportunity to blame the British victims of his supremacism for every jihad attack in the world. The real cause of jihad of course is the Islamic texts themselves and their unqualified praise of violence to impose Islamic totalitarianism.
45charlie says
Choudary was born & raised in the UK. His Twitter account https://twitter.com/anjemchoudary shows what an ass he is. He usually avoids prosecution by not openly soliciting Jihadis to go to places like Syria & Iraq to fight.
Those who find him honest about Islam are kidding themselves. He doesn’t deserve any points for revealing Islam than the beheaders would ! He is a devious man who should be tried for treason.
TH says
I saw him in a debate and at least he was not trying to deny what he was up to. He made now bones about the fact that he wants to impose sharia on everybody.
mortimer says
Choudary is a clear, articulate speaker. Too bad he can’t have the scales fall from his eyes. He would be a great counterjihadist.
voegelinian says
Yeah, just like Maajid Nawaz, eh?
Monkey Mind says
Great observation! In the west there seems to be no clear values being articulated anymore . . . “All that is holy is profaned, all that is solid melts into air” (to quote Karl Marx), moral relativism and political correctness has contaminated all and the majority of men have been morally neutered, too afraid to speak out due to the real risk of being labelled racist and islamiphobic etc (except Robert Spencer and the like, Major Bernard Gaynor here in Australia who has been persecuted terribly for his bravery). But I had developed a kind of perverse admiration for Ajem Choudary despite rejecting all he stood for and despising him. To me he impressed as fearless, always telling the truth about Islam and what it had planned for the West. He did not lie, except the rediculous statement that Islam was “not” spread by the sword! I often wondered where are his British equivalents? Although given the arrest of Paul Weston for simply reading Churchill’s The River War in public, I suspect all those that have stood up and dared to speak have been taken out one by one and silenced.
Rob says
As Margaret Thatcher once said (in another context);
‘Rejoice. I say again Rejoice’.
voegelinian says
In 1979, Margaret Thatcher observed, betraying an all-too common illiteracy about Islam and Muslims:
I do not believe that we should judge Islam by events in Iran…There is a tide of self-confidence and self-awareness in the Muslim world which preceded the Iranian revolution, and will outlast its present excesses. The West should recognize this with respect, not hostility. The Middle East is an area where we all have much at stake. It is in our own interests, as well as in the interests of the people of that region, that they build on their own deep religious traditions…
And also, with regard to the Afghanistan in the 1980s:
…Thatcher declared that these mujahideen were engaged in “one of the most heroic resistance struggles known to history,” as cited in Sandy Gall’s Afghanistan, Agony of a Nation.
http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/15543
Then, in the wake of 911, did she wake up?
In many respects the challenge of Islamic terror is unique, hence the difficulty Western intelligence services encountered trying to predict and prevent its onslaughts. The enemy is not, of course, a religion—most Muslims deplore what has occurred. Nor is it a single state, though this form of terrorism needs the support of states to give it succour. Perhaps the best parallel is with early Communism. Islamic extremism today, like Bolshevism in the past, is an armed doctrine. It is an aggressive ideology promoted by fanatical, well-armed devotees.
http://islamversuseurope.blogspot.com/2013/04/margaret-thatcher-and-islam.html
I don’t even want to Google “reagan islam”, for fear of what dismal PC MC crap I’ll find in my erstwhile hero…
pumbar says
If you get a chance have a read of Melanie Phillips’ “Londonistan”. It opened my eyes to just how pro-islam Thatcher was, so too for many before her.
45charlie says
Ezra Levant debated him on SUN Media & wiped the floor with him. He should be tried for treason along with all the Jihadis!
Charli Main says
Get your point charlie45, but he can´t be tried for treason because he and his jihadi friends are NOT BRITISH and have no loyalty to Queen and Country.
This piece of Muslim pig shit and his parasitic family, should have been put on a plane back to Islamistan decades ago, instead of being allowed to sponge off the country he hates and wants to destroy.
gerard says
They’ll probably double his welfare cheques and put flat screen TVs in every room. Or am I just cynical?
Kenny says
Anjem (Andy) Choudhary, what a great bloke!
Think about it, whenever he opens his mouth he exposes Islam for all that it is.
He’s essential in relation to the British public knowing the true nature of his vile ideology!
Keep talking Andy,keep dropping your ideology in the shit (where it belongs), for all to see, gobshite that you are!
Daniel Triplett says
The one thing I appreciated about Choudary was his blunt and brutal honesty. No Taqiyya from him at all.
Infidels listening to him speak had their eyes opened real wide.
Choudary has done much more to educate Americans and British about the true dangers of Islam than Cameron or Obama ever have.
Isabella says
To the list I would add Tony Blair.
Angemon says
So he was caught? No muslim police officer tipped him off this time?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/08/uk-muslim-police-officer-leaked-plans-to-arrest-jihad-leader-anjem-choudary
I wonder if there were no muslim police officers in the process, and if so, how the culturally sensitive police force went along with it…
Harry says
prediction no.1; Choudry will be released without charge
prediction no.2; Choudry will successfully sue the met
prediction no.3; another one of Choudry’s ‘associates’ carries out a terrorist attack in UK within 2 years
prediction no.4; none of our political masters will take any effective steps to rid the UK of Islam
Louise from Canada says
That is EXACTLY what is going to happen.
Isabella says
This is good news! I cannot stand that arrogant Choudary. If UK has arrested this guy to me UK has finally woken up. Long overdue. I still do not comprehend why Mr. Robert Spencer was not allowed to enter UK. Still flabbergasted!
David, Thailand says
Anjem Choudary is the only honest Muslim cleric in the UK. He says it as it is, and has explained clearly and unambiguously, several times, how Islam will undermine and progressively demolish Western liberal democracy, which bends over double to protect the rights of those intent on destroying it.
Only politicians, media, and fools find comfort in calling him a nutter.
Don't tell the muffin man says
This evil man is responsible for many deaths of innocent lives. Although he himself, a shrewd, and cowardly lawyer, is very careful never to implicate himself, whereas the fools who are taken in by him do his filthy work, such as the one to his left, who is currently residing at Belmarsh prison at Her Majesty’s pleasure. And this knave goes on business as usual. Can he be deported? He has manipulated the British legal system for too long, has claimed thousands of pounds in social security benefits, yet complains incessantly about this country.
GP says
IS LAM IS HATEFUL!
pumbar says
So, Slimjim Chunderarse has been arrested. I’m holding back on the bunting and waiting for the press release next week that he has merely been relocated because the government wanted to send in a team of interior designers to spruce up his council house. He’ll be getting double benefits as of next Wednesday due to the inconvenience.
nodhimmi says
THIS IS ACTUALLY SAD NEWS!
I like communists like Gregor Gysi. He tells you what he thinks so you now in advance the banks will be nationalized. No hidden agenda there so any sane person can vote for another party.
I also like Anjem Choudary. Other muslims like CAIR in the US or pretty much everyone in Germany are lying their arse off in describing how peaceful the actual islam is when we see terror attacks all over the world. But not Anjem. He is truthful, he tells you what he thinks.
If every muslim would be like him (coming into another country, living under this country’s welfare while demanding the inhibitants of that country must do as he tells and supporting terrorists) then MAYBE some more people would get islam as it really is.
So, hopefully he well get free and can continue to spit out the truth about islam.
Thanks Anjem, if you read this!
Gardener says
I think Choudary is a Dadaist at heart. Islam is his hobbyhorse. Whenever I see him explaining Islam and smirking, I can’t help but think there is a self-consciousness, a zeal for performance, and an underlying irony to it. He just revels in explaining Islamic doctrines others are scared to touch. I’m not convinced he himself believes in any of it. I think he just wants to be in that position of power. Nonetheless he is a real presence in the fanatic circles. A lot of British terrorists passed through his hands before becoming terrorists.
Since Choudary hasn’t been involved in terrorist activities, I’m not surprised he hasn’t been arrested earlier. In fact, I would be surprised if they charged him with anything substantial. It seems doubtful that he would have been foolish enough to get his hands dirty. So most likely all they will have against him are words, and his words are mostly about what Islam teaches, albeit taken to its literal extreme which is called Islamophobia, I suppose.
I suspect the police raided him and his affiliates based on the probability of finding something incriminating in someone’s possession. If Choudary ends up in prison for telling what Islam teaches, it will be a sad day. You know it will not lead to examination of Islamic doctrines. He will be in jail for “distorting” the religion of peace. And once Choudary is jailed for teaching what Islam teaches, it is only a matter of time before Islam critics are bullied into silence by charging them with hate speech or some other thought crime. On the other hand, Choudary’s trial could be interesting: he would use Islamic scripture as his defense to turn it into Islam being on trial instead.
I recently listened to his two-part two-hour talk on the dhimma pact, by the way. Search for his channel on YouTube if you’re interested. Hurry up before the channel goes quiet because of the frightening amount of Islamophobia in his talks.
DiMu says
He is a most poisonous, arrogant little snake and deserves the fate his friends inflict on us – beheading.
Carolyne says
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to commit sedition, treason or incite revolution, no matter how much you barbarians think it does.
Semeru says
You are quite right he has no loyalty to Queen and Country. BUT you are totally wrong about Anjem Choudary, he was born in Britain, also arrested was
Abu Izzadeen who was born in Hackney, London.
Mizanur Rahman also born in London.
Abdul Muhid, British-born Bangladeshi from east London
So there you go, at least four of them are ripe to stand trial, and sentenced to face the Newgate Garland