More absurd self-subjugation in Deranged Britannia. The local Muslim groups haven’t even demanded this; KFC just did it preemptively. Isn’t assuming that Muslims will grow enraged over alcohol-based hand-wipes a kind of “Islamophobia”?
“Leicester KFC customer shocked as he is refused hand-wipe because of branch’s halal policy,” by Yasmin Duffin, Leicester Mercury, September 28, 2014 (thanks to Stu):
A customer at a Leicester branch of KFC has said he was “shocked” when he was refused a hand-wipe as it might offend other restaurant-goers.
Graham Noakes, 41, said he was astonished when staff at the fast food chain’s outlet in St George’s retail park refused to give him a hand-wipe because it was against its Halal policy.
Staff said this was because the wipes are soaked in an alcohol-infused liquid. Alcohol is forbidden in the Muslim Holy book, the Quran.
The Leicester-based Federation of Muslim Organisations has called the decision “bizarre”.
Graham said: “They told me it might offend other customers.
“I explained that it wouldn’t affect me. In fact – I told them I like alcohol, so it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.
“When they wouldn’t give me one, I was disgusted.
“I will never be going to KFC again.”
The father-of-two added: “I’ve never experienced anything like this before, I couldn’t believe it.
“Why shouldn’t I be allowed a wipe for my hands?
“They use wipes in hospital, what happens when we start being told we can’t have wipes there?
“I just can’t understand it.”
Graham, who lives in Birmingham, is working in Leicester on the construction of a new Muslim community centre in Highfields.
Halal is the Arabic word for ‘lawful’ and relates to what is allowed in the context of Islamic law, but is often used in conjunction with the issue of how meat is dealt with.
Suleman Nagdi, spokesman for the Leicester-based Federation of Muslim Organisations, said: “I know alcohol is prohibited in the Muslim community, but I don’t understand why you can’t use hand-wipes – there’s nothing wrong with it.
“Using alcohol doesn’t mean you’re consuming it.
“It seems like an unusual decision to be made.
“In fact, it sounds bizarre.”
Suleman said such decisions potentially provoked some people to start “lashing out” at the Muslim community.
“I’ve never come across anything like this before,” he added.
“KFC have made a commercial decision to do this, and now the Muslim community will face backlash.”
So pandering will supposedly cause backlash against Muslims, and not pandering will cause backlash from Muslims. What to do?
A KFC spokesman said the company had been running a halal trial since 2010, in “areas where there has been demand from our customers”, such as the restaurant in St George’s Retail Park.
He said that as a result “a small number of products from our usual menu are not available”, and in addition the St George’s branch had decided not to stock wet wipes that contain alcohol”.
The Mercury understands that the branch is waiting for its stock of alcohol-based wipes to be replaced with lemon-based wipes.
The spokesman added: “Wherever possible, we have taken steps to ensure that our halal restaurants are close to a non-halal store to cater to all of our customers’ needs, and, in this case, customers wanting a non-halal option can visit our nearby restaurant in Braunstone.”
Jacksonl03 says
And, here, I’ve thought for years now that stupidity had long ago reached levels that could not be exceeded. Boy, was I wrong.
Beagle says
This first arose when Muslim NHS workers in the UK refused to use sanitizer despite the prevalence of antibiotic-resistant supergerms: infection jihad. I think I read that here in fact.
Yep.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/uk-muslims-refusing-to-wash-hands-in-hospitals
Seems obvious that unless alcohol leads to intoxication Muslims are just making the stupid kuffar run in circles and laughing at us. Not that our intoxication is their business.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Beagle.
While denying the availability of hand wipes in a KFC may result in nothing worse than greasy fingers, in a hospital it can mean sepsis and infection and even death.
And this story gives the lie to the Taqiyya from the Federation of Muslim Organizations that Muslims would never oppose the use of non-consumable alcohol.
Joan in Houston says
Now I have heard everything!
GP says
Colonel Sanders is rolling over in his grave!
If you had a cancer in your body would you coddle it? Would you let it go unchecked and untreated for fear of offending it?
Ralph says
Hey, Ralph here… I am offering ISIS Hunting Licences with a quick School on the Hunting…
https://www.youtube.com/embed/JOaiP7ZbfbI
PRCS says
That IS funny!
R Cole says
In trying to attract a few Muslim ones – KFC is driving away others.
The food doesn’t taste the same – the familiar taste with the famous chicken – from when we were children – is not there in halal. There is something lifeless or tasteless about it and it is more likely to be dry. I thought they were skimping on quality – until I learned it was halal.
KFC have at times placed these halal outlets in areas – where there are conservative Muslims – mainly immigrants – who very likely don’t have the means to buy the food – or don’t have the same association with the brand – the women are 85% or more covered in burqas – and the men in beards with their pants a few inches off their ankles – but KFC’s computers say that there are ‘Muslims’ in the area!
They are fundamentalists!!
And when I walk by the restaurant – and I’ve purposely set out to look – and even on occasion while in there – I have never seen a Muslim customer – either waiting in line or seated.
I had some Muslim neighbors years ago – who claimed they only ate halal – but made the exception with KFC.
What is KFC doing exactly?
:: ::
Someone should film these ‘halal’ KFC branches for a day – gather proof that they are in fact ignoring their customer base.
mach37 says
Even informed Muslims realize that the Islamic prohibition against alcohol is for consuming it, not for external uses. The Leicester KFC manager appears to be an idiot.
Judi says
Probably a muslim.
umbra says
koranic frayed customers …
To repulse and alienate …
Athena Marler Creamer says
Halal meat is cruelly killed. Why isn’t PETA complaining? Kids, do you want the throat slit chicken or the regular recipe?
Mirren10 says
It’s quite simple.
Everyone should boycott KFC, until they reverse this insane policy. I don’t think there are enough mohammedans yet in the UK to keep KFC afloat, if all non-mohammedans refuse to eat there, and furthermore, write letters to Head Office, telling them why they are being boycotted.
But they won’t. It’s a damn sight easier to chunter, rather than be inconvenienced.
I haven’t bought a Subway sandwich since the story here about them a)using halal meat, and b) refusing to serve bacon in certain restaurants.
I’ve only ever eaten KFC chicken once, and thought it was disgusting, so boycotting it is no hardship, but I’d do so even if I loved the stuff.
Wellington says
My very thought, MIrren, while reading this article. Ideally, folks should boycott any business that puts itself in dhimmi-mode for Muslims.
Kelly says
Well put !
Brian Hoff says
Useing achol swipe to clean your hand is allow in Islam. When I get than bad cold I take achol base cough medine as when I was in my early 20’s I have than liver illness which damage my liver the acholic free cough medine will do 10 time more damage to my liver than the one who will achol the mosque know why I do this than it is allow.
Mirren10 says
” … the mosque know why I do this than it is allow.”
And if the mosque **didn’t** allow, would you than happily damage your liver ?
Did ‘intelligents school’ where you went because you is so smart, have anything to do with this ‘liver damage’ ? I think you may have got your ‘liver damage ‘ confused with ‘brain damage’, dear … 🙂
Angemon says
defenderofislam’s post proves that in islam necessity cancels obligation. Well, it’s either that or that the CIA is controlling his mosque and making muslims engaging in haram behaviour.
umbra says
There are many many exceptions to islamic law … prostitution, rape, murder, extortion, robbery, ….
And if these is no exception for a particular piece of islamic law, then the creative department could just invent one or a few.
R Cole says
While travelling in one Muslim country – on long journeys on the bus – in the hot climate – someone would go around to each person – and put this lemon/lime alcohol or limacol – into your hands – and you would rub your hands together and put it on your face to cool down.
KFC are being played.
What will be forbidden to KFC-Islam next?
These Muslims are playing religious games – someone who worked in Domino’s/Pizza Hut [a few years ago] said all of a sudden – these Muslim guys started showing up to the store, asking for halal pizza. And then another one would show up and ask the same question.
They were not the usual customers – but where trying to seem to be applying pressure – to get those shops to change their menu to halal.
I’ve had Pizza Hut in the Muslim world and the pepperoni is not the same. It tasted like there was something missing!
What KFC is doing is like focusing on Shari’a complaint mortgages over – interest rate mortgages for the rest of the population – it just doesn’t make business sense.
KFC can’t tell their customers to do 20 miles down the road – for what they used to get at the local store – and when they complain – call or imply that they are racists or intolerant – and expect the same level of brand loyalty.
semeru says
That is very true for Turkey, I experienced there while traveling around. Normal, this happened after a refreshment stop. This doesn’t happen in Indonesia.
Any-way what is wrong with the bloke, why couldn’t he use the wash basin soap and water, failing that use a serviette.
gravenimage says
Few KFCs have restrooms, so washing up with soap and water is seldom an option.
Moreover, many people get this kind of fast food to go, and may not have access to soap and water at their destination.
And serviettes—napkins to you Yanks out there—are not as efficient as wipes.
But all of this is beside the point—this is just another case of Muslim demands—or even perceived Muslim demands, in this case—leading to greater inconvenience for civilized Infidels.
And worse that this, this sort of minor inconvenience softens up the Kuffar, and allows for creeping Shari’ah.
And full Shari’ah law is not just an inconvenience—it is a bloody atrocity.
This is just the top edge of a very slippery slope.
BlueRaven says
Mr. Hoff did your Imam than tell you the Mo-seks are controlled by Mossad? They than put these Mossadchens inside the head of Imams, that is than why the Imams talk through their backside, because the brain dead Imams feel very comfortable blowing hot wind into the air through their orifice. Sounds to me like than you pick up that hot wind five time a day.
Way to spend your life – sniffing up to the Imams backside. That is some paradise.
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”—really, “DefenderofIslam”—wrote:
Useing achol swipe to clean your hand is allow in Islam. When I get than bad cold I take achol base cough medine as when I was in my early 20’s I have than liver illness which damage my liver the acholic free cough medine will do 10 time more damage to my liver than the one who will achol the mosque know why I do this than it is allow.
……………………………….
Firstly, why should civilized Infidels care one way or another what Islam “allow” to its own adherents?
We wouldn’t, but for one thing: Islam enjoins its followers to impose Islamic law *on everyone*, Muslims and Infidels alike.
“DefenderofIslam” is no doubt fine with his vile coreligionists making it illegal for any non-Muslims to “display” wine and alcohol.
Moreover, his implication that all Muslims allow the use of alcohol for medicinal purposes is an absolute lie.
His literally filthy coreligionists—doctors and nurses, mind you!—are already refusing to properly sterilize their hands because of their avoidance of alcohol:
“UK: Muslims refusing to wash hands in hospitals”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/12/uk-muslims-refusing-to-wash-hands-in-hospitals
And here’s a more recent story:
“Muslims refuse to use alcohol-based hand gels due to religious beliefs”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202192/Muslims-refuse-use-alcohol-based-hand-gels-religious-beliefs.html
voegelinian says
Brian Hoff makes me wonder if excessive glue-sniffing is halal…
Terry says
Forget which customers, they all will get sick if those tables are not wiped down correctly. I would take that lemon wipe, wipe a table, get it tested and am willing to be that one would find Ecoli and Listeria on the tables.
There is always the KFC Fb page to post to.
Tim says
Robert, it’s ceased being referred to as Britannia quite a while back. It’s now officially known as Britanistan.
tpellow says
“Boycott Halal.”
http://www.boycotthalal.com/
GlandInMyHand says
What a load of shite, of the trillions of Muslimes that i know, every single one of them smokes, drinks, some doing drugs, and that is the milder side of their nastiness!
umbra says
The worst kept secret in ROP world, alcohol consumption, narcotics consumption and prostitution. There is a market for each in ROP lands.
Richie says
Now this is just getting ridiculous. What next- will non Muslims be required to avert their gaze when Muslims speak and step to the side when Muslims walk by?
Angemon says
Almost. They need to be forced to go the narrower part of the road. As per Sahih muslim:
“Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it.”
Mirren10 says
”What next- will non Muslims be required to avert their gaze when Muslims speak and step to the side when Muslims walk by ?”
Richie, this is **exactly** what is demanded of non-muslims when they live in mohammedan lands under sharia. And this is what they want for us all, eventually.
Richie says
and no doubt to oppose this will be called Islamophobic
gravenimage says
Very true, Angemon and Mirren.
And Dumbledore’s Army has reported cases of Infidels being pushed off the sidewalk by thuggish groups of Mohammedans in Australia.
And then there is the phenomenon of Muslims completely taking over the sidewalks in places like Paris:
“Please get off the sidewalks. Can’t you see Muslims are praying here?”
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2009/12/09/paris-please-get-off-the-sidewalks-cant-you-see-muslims-are-praying-here/
LJim says
I’d be intererested to hear this Suleman chappie’s views on his co-religionists vending liquor for profit.
Mirren10 says
Exactly, London Jim.
Nearly every corner shop in the UK is run by mohammedans, and they make no bones about selling every type of alcohol, *and* pork and bacon.
This is KFC bending over backwards to accommodate mohammedans, at the expense of everyone else. I hope they go out of business.
Long time no see ! How’ve you been ? I’m going up to Durham next month for a reunion with some old mates from Shincliffe, can’t wait !
Mirren10 says
Any chance we might see you in the Half-Moon ?
sc says
the solution is easy, just stay away from kfc, they will get the message soon enough when they start losing money, and that goes for any business that bows down to the mo-slums
Jerry says
Looks like KFC now stands for Kuffar Fooling Corporation
It is not the only Dhimmi corporation.
I was informed that McDonalds has gone Halal at least
in some countries at some branches.
Emily says
I know Obama made a speech about the brilliant Muslim scientists throughout history, so I find it surprising that they don’t seem to know that you don’t drink isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. The kind of alcohol that you drink is ethyl. This story is almost as stupid as the people being thrown off the bus for singing the Peppa Pig song.
John C. Barile says
Yes! Don’t these imbeciles know that??
Roger says
The customer said;
“They use wipes in hospital, what happens when we start being told we can’t have wipes there?
Actually that is a very good question with huge implications, and it follows on with the Halal certification of implements, vehicles, buildings etc.
Eventually it will be like the Goods And Services tax.
Imagine,
You will have to pay the smiling adherents of the religion of decapitation, a tax on every single item sold in the country.
Alice says
According to my Muslim exchange student, wood alcohol is not the problem, because it’s fatal and cannot be consumed, bu t he was incensed that I mentioned alcohol in vanilla extract, thus implying that his mom was not cooking halal. I explained that the alcohol dissipates, but he wasn’t going for it, fearing I would use wine in cooking.
Colin Spencer says
There are modern Christian religions which have extraordinary rules with regard to consumption of alcohol as well. Pretty much the same rule as the Muslim one. Check out Jehova’s Witnesses, Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, (Mormons), and Seventh Day Adventists for starters.
Mirren10 says
Oh, for God’s sake, yet another moronic leftard moral equivalency monger.
Christian sects with rules against alcohol don’t try to force their beliefs on everyone else.
None of the sects you name refuse to handle alcohol when they are being paid to do so, none of them attack people on the streets for drinking alcohol.
And KFC isn’t refusing to supply alcohol based wipes because of Mormon’s or 7th Day Adventists, or Jehovah Witnesses.
How do you manage to get out of bed and dress in the morning ? Idiot.
bernie says
Jehovah’s Witnesses (Russellites) do permit the moderate consumption of beer, wine and spirits. If you ask them, they will say that this is because Jesus drank alcohol, according to the Gospels.
However, JWs strongly dislike smoking or chewing tobacco, almost as much as most Mormons dislike it.
gravenimage says
Good God—”Jehova’s Witnesses (sic), Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, (Mormons), and Seventh Day Adventists” are not trying to impose their prohibitions *on us*—but Muslims are.
Under dhimmitude, no Infidel is allowed to “display” wine or alcohol. Muslims in Dar-al-Islam regularly bomb liquor shops and hotels and restaurants that serve alcohol.
And don’t think this hasn’t started here—Muslims have trashed liquor stores in Oakland, California, and Muslims in London and Paris have attacked people on the street who are legally consuming alcohol.
I rarely drink alcohol myself—but I am not trying to violently impose my own habits on other people.
Roger says
I wish this site showed how many minutes/ hours ago comments were made.
Some times it can be relevant.
Don’t get me wrong, I know nothing about these things or how hard it is to do, it’s just that I don’t know what time zone etc. the writers are in.
mach37 says
The time & date of comments shows up in my web browser. Maybe you have a browser setting that inhibits date/time?
gravenimage says
Roger wrote:
I wish this site showed how many minutes/ hours ago comments were made.
……………………………
It does, Roger. For instance, your comment that I am replying to posted at September 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm.
All times are US Eastern Time Zone. If you are in a different time zone, it is not difficult to do the math. For instance, I am on the West coast in Pacific time, so I just subtract three hours.
alyn21 says
When I was growing up I used to think of the British as being arrogant and snobbish. Their arrogance has now turned into fecklessness and their snobbishness has turned into subservience to inferior societies and religious beliefs. I hate to say it but I think I preferred them the way they used to be. Please come back arrogant Britain. All is forgiven. LOL
Kevin Walker says
Did somebody noticed:
“Graham, who lives in Birmingham, is working in Leicester on the construction of a new Muslim community centre in Highfields.”
Well, Mr. Graham you facilitate their culture and this is what you will get. Worse is coming for the next generation because of your greed & cowardliness.
gravenimage says
Yes—I noticed that, as well. I believe he was cringingly trying to prove that he was not being “Islamophobic”. *Ugh*.
gravenimage says
By the way, that “new Muslim community centre” is a new facility for the Muslim Khatri Association, which has spent the past several decades opposing any British measures against Jihad terrorism.
They are trying to force the city of Leicester to build them an Islamic cemetery. They also take over local parks for Iftar meals.
Reverend Richard de Meath says
Such behaviour by an American company on British soil giving support to another load of foreigners is an affront to all the generation who gave their lives to ensure we would be safe from foreign aggression.
The quislings in Westminster deserve nothing but the worst to happen to them. Sadly, it seems I shall not live to see that happy day!
SallyA says
Islam and its practice by Muslims: insane deceit and/or insane cruelty. The Halal bugaboo is utterly insane.
From Halal hand wipes to Halal animal slaughter, insane deceit (because most Muslims violate Halal and commit Haram regularly in the West when outside the mosque, then play the “poor us” card in Western economic situations for PR and press purposes) and insane cruelty because throat-slitting (and other maiming) in Halal slaughter of animals is disgusting.
The Islamic insane cruelty of fixation on the pain of throat-slitting extends beyond Muslims beheading humans in the 21st century to Muslims on a daily basis beheading animals for Halal slaughter. It is creepy beyond measure. I’m boycotting all Halal establishments and have written to several companies expressing why I will be removing my business.
Here’s how slaughter works in the U.S. (or is supposed to) under our more humane rules, unlike the Muslim Halal cruelty toward animals: http://modernfarmer.com/2013/04/this-is-what-humane-slaughter-looks-like-is-it-good-enough/
Anybody sane (or not bought off) who learns about Muslim culture — beyond the outward deceptive facade they present to Westerners when they have not achieved political dominance in a country — would no more embrace Muslim culture or its practitioners than they would embrace a criminally insane murderer or the Nazi Gestapo.
bernie says
All right, but let me ask you: is there any real difference between Muslim halal slaughter, and the Jewish kosher slaughter? And, if there isn’t any, shouldn’t kosher be boycotted as well?
Marken says
Where will you boycott a kosher KFC? Even the majority of KFCs in Israel are non-Kosher. Rather than boycott, DEMAND non-halal.
Western Canadian says
Kosher pays attention to sanitation in the entire process, as well as tries to give the animal a quick and relatively painless death. islam (RTC) has no notions of sanitation, and is hellish for the animal. Is that enough of a difference for you?
mach37 says
So, offending non-Muslims is fine, just don’t offend Muslims? It is time for those of us offended by this policy to let KFC and other businesses that fear offending Muslims know their offensive policies work both ways. Boycotting KFC might work, unless it is an area where the store’s majority customer base IS Muslim.
Yitzchak says
Alcohol in hand wipes is iso-propyl alcohol ( a non-indigestible alcohol that causes blindness if drunken ) Much different than the alcohol in booze or wine. How stupid.
nothosaur says
Ethyl alcohol (beverage alcohol) is haram probably because Muhammed had a mystical objection to being under the influence. (Somebody correct me if I’m wrong — did he have another objection?)
Isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol) was unknown in Muhammed’s day, and metabolizes into acetone, and is far too deadly for consumption: unlike ethyl alcohol, the margin between drunkeness and fatal overdose is very thin. An 8 oz bottle of isopropyl alcohol contains a potentially lethal dose for humans.
Methyl alcohol (fuel/solvent alcohol) would likely be next on the ban list of some dhimmi’s industrial business if weren’t so useful in modern life. It was unknown in Muhammed’s day, and metabolizes into formaldehyde. If ingested, it will cause neurological damage/blindness. As little as 2 ounces may be fatal.
Muhammed, if he knew about these latter 2 chemical compositions, would not likely have objected to their designed uses. But, then again, he had no idea about microscopic germs, spandex fibers or shampoo.
No matter! What is important is that Muslims see non-muslims trying their hardest to accomodate them, and to maintain a satisfactory self-image of absurd tolerence.
R Davis says
Gosh, I haven’t had KFC for years.
Eventually one gets over it & moves on….
Maybe the clientele at this KFC is almost exclusively Muslim.
Because everyone else is on KFC overload.
The customer is always right is how business stays in business.
This establishment has it’s head on correctly, the Almighty Buck is where it is at for this KFC.
gravenimage says
Yet more apologia from R Davis.
odysseus says
Very weird. I think the precept against alcohol is about drinking it. Alcohol can also be a medicine. Somebody is overreacting.
Chris J says
Either this article is a lie or that KFC is stupid. It is only against hardcore Islam to consume alcohol for becoming intoxicated. It’s also worth noting that the Quran says you should make attempts to be as clean as you are able, especially when receiving food because it shows respect for God’s gift. I’m not even religious and I know that.
Western Canadian says
What the unholy Koran and the rest of islam (RTC) about hygiene is so pathetic, it hurts. Try again.
gravenimage says
Chris J, you seem to believe that Islam is a rational and decent creed. I’m afraid you are *quite* mistaken.
Uncle Vladdi says
The primary Hanifi sharia “legal” manual, The Hedaya, notes that it isn’t alcohol itself which is haram, only certain kinds of alcoholic beverages (wine, etc).
When those alcoholic beverages which Moe didn’t SPECIFICALLY deny are used (to sanitize, or even to drink) it isn’t illegal, only the getting VERY intoxicated part is!
After all, in islam as in all crimimal enterprises, all is allowed except that which is very specifically forbidden!
😉
Semeru says
In réponse to my remark that he could have used the wash basin
That is strange, because here in Indonesia the kids in my village just love KFC so whenever I bring then into the city, as a treat I take them to a KFC, and each one has had toilets and hand basins.
So I ran a google search to see if this branch had a toilet, and yes it did.
Visited KFC in st George’s retail park 9/11/13 took my 2.5 year old son to the toilet & was discusted with cleanliness then went to the disabled toilet to find even worst, absolutely discusting will not be going there again!!
http://www.bigreddirectory.com/kfc-10-st-georges-retail-park-leicester
Strange he did not complain about the place being dirty, If the toilets where dirty, chances are the kitchen is also up to standard.
Further more Spencer blames KFC
No they did not, it was the manager of one outlet. In a statement,
KFC said alcohol-based hand-wipes were approved for use in all its restaurants, including those taking part in its halal trial.
The company added: “There was a misunderstanding at the store in question, but the wipes are now being used again.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11128246/KFC-leaves-Muslims-baffled-after-branch-drops-alcohol-hand-wipes-in-halal-mix-up.html
Spencer also takes another swipe at Britain, when it could more than likely the store manager was a moslem.
Also KFC is an amerika owned franchise
gravenimage says
You have said nothing here that contradict what either Robert Spencer or I said.
This franchisee represents KFC, and his actions are either dhimmitude or creeping Shari’ah. Given that the local Muslim shills expressed false dismay, one may consider it unlikely that the manager is himself Muslim.
And if the use of wipes are here being banned because it might offend Muslims, there is no reason to think that that would change if the KFC outlet in question didn’t have a restroom, as many do not.
And this would not help in any case were the customer to get the order to go, which is *very common* with fast food.
Frank Courtney says
Halal and dhimmitude in ST. GEORGES retail park?
Oh the irony!
Semeru says
Well spotted Frank
Saint George the patron saint of England
Frank Courtney says
Semeru – I was lamenting the fact that this dhimmitude to Islamic supremacism was linked with St George, not celebrating it.
St George slew the Dragon just as we Englishmen will destroy Islam.