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UK special forces move into London as government fears “Mumbai-style” jihad massacres

Sep 1, 2014 10:56 am By Robert Spencer

islam-london1AWelcome to David Cameron’s Britain. The U.K. government worked with Islamic supremacists that it deluded itself into thinking were ‘moderates,’ allowing them to gain immense influence over the government and media. It funded liars who exaggerated claims of Muslim victimhood, allowing them to propagate throughout the country their narrative that opposing jihad terror amounted to ‘racism’ and ‘bigotry.’ It completely internalized that narrative ourselves, ignoring for years an Islamic supremacist takeover of public schools and the victimization of thousands of British girls by Muslim rape gangs, so as to avoid accusations of “racism.” It hounded and demonized foes of jihad terror and banned Pamela Geller and me from the country for pointing out that Islam had a doctrine of violence. This is the Britain the UK elites have made. And now they have to live in it.

“UK Special Forces Move Into London As Govt Fears ‘Mumbai-Style’ Terrorist Spectacular,” by Donna Rachel Edmunds, Breitbart News, September 1, 2014 (thanks to Thomas Pellow):

London could be the scene of a Mumbai-style terrorist “spectacular” if Islamist jihadists get their way, British security chiefs have warned. There is growing concern that a list of “soft” targets is being drawn up, and that weapons and explosives have already been smuggled into the country.

The Sun is reporting that the SAS has moved part of its anti-terror team to a forward base near London, amid concerns that a prolonged attack may be staged in that city. MI5 also referred to the Mumbai atrocity of 2008 as a comparison, in which coordinated bombings and shootings took place over four consecutive days, killing 174 and wounding a further 300.

Speaking to The Sun, a source said: “The nightmare scenario is they mount a spectacular attack at a high profile location. They may try to storm a building, take hostages, rig it with explosives or kill at will.”

The threat has caused the official ‘threat level’ to be raised to severe, increasing tensions in the city and prompting people to share warnings of an imminent bomb attack on the London Underground on social media and via text last night. The threat was dismissed as a hoax after the head of the British Transport Police took to Twitter, posting: “Social media contains lots of rumours regarding threats to tube network tomorrow. There is no specific threat so keep calm & carry on.”

However, Twitter user David O’Neill pointed out: “Must say though. If you raise the threat level to severe you can’t be shocked when people believe stupid rumours about attacks on the tube.”

Up to 500 British-born men are understood to have gone abroad in order to fight for the Islamic State (IS). Scotland Yard believes that up to 200 may have already returned, and are concerned that they will have been taught to carry out similar violent attacks on the streets of Britain.

Prime Minister David Cameron has indicated that he is considering granting the border patrol new powers to seize passports from suspected jihadists, and introducing of a ban on travelling abroad to fight with IS. A government source has told the media: “We are considering measures to keep the country safe in the face of an increased threat level from Islamist extremism.

“The areas include making it harder for potential foreign fighters to travel abroad by making it easier to remove their passports through additional temporary seizure powers at the border.

“We are also looking at stopping British citizens from re-entering the country if they are suspected of terrorist activity abroad.

“Previously, our range of powers to prevent return to the UK applied only to foreign nationals, dual nationals or naturalised citizens.”

Cameron is expected to deliver details of a package designed to inhibit terrorist activity to the Commons later today. However, it is not clear whether the package will have the support of Cameron’s coalition partners, the Liberal Democrat Party.

Former Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell told BBC Radio 4: “I think it’s rather difficult and it might well constitute illegality. To render citizens stateless is regarded as illegal in international law. To render them stateless temporarily, which seems to me the purpose of what’s being proposed, can also I think be described as illegal. At the very least it’s the kind of question that will be tested here in our own courts and perhaps also in the European Court of Human Rights.”

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  1. Undaunted says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:05 am

    Mumbai in the UK? Sure, but in the US as well.

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2014/06/i-kid-you-not-about-the-mom-and-pop-home-schoolers-being-considered-a-more-probable-threat-than-terrorists-in-the-neck-of.html

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      And various parts of Europe — Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Netherlands; if not more.

      • Undaunted says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 9:38 pm

        Absolutely. Time to man up, world.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:06 am

    Europe is already paying.
    It is called welfare handouts to Europe hating Muslims

  3. Mac-101 says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:06 am

    I figure Britain has about 5 years to do a Spain 1492, or start stickin their rears in da air 5 times a day!

    • Michael says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 11:43 am

      The entire West needs to do a Spain 1492.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm

        The entire West needs to do a Spain 1492.

        Boy you’ve got that right. But wait, something’s missing now that was there in 1492: a belief system. Pope Urban II shamed the noblmen of the West into finally defending against the ceaseless Moslem onslaught. The Crusades was a fine cause that today is inexplicably apologized for. Too bad he wasn’t around when they finally flushed the Moslems across the Strait and back into their hellhole.

        But now, there is no belief system, there is none of resolve that it’d take to delouse our societies of Moslems. We’re all secular progressives now, easy meat for a gang of ambitious Moslems thumping their Holy Ko-Rans and wielding their Infidel engineered and manufactured weapons. I saw one on TV the other day driving an Abrams tank. Wow, just when you’re thinking it can’t get any worse than this it does.

        ignoring for years an Islamic supremacist takeover of public schools and the victimization of thousands of British girls by Muslim rape gangs, so as to avoid accusations of “racism.”

        Hell, the Holy Prophet Mo-Hammed ran a rape gang himself. He peddled a lotta sex slaves in his time, and did his share of forcible rapes himself.

        Jumping ahead to modern times, the rape rate jumped 30,000% in Oslo when the Pakis moved in to get their welfare. They wanted, and got, the blonde stuff too. When this statistic became public, a feminist professor at the U. of Olso opined that the women half deserved it because they dressed like sluts. Maybe she was thinking bib overalls with a trace of a goatee would’ve been better.

        • Budvarakbar says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 2:32 pm

          I have maintained for some time that the west is in dire need of a combo of Vlad the Impaler, Charles Martel, Sobieski, Ferdinand and Isabella, Cromwell, Grant, Sherman, Churchill, Pershing, Arnold, and Patton!

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 5:32 pm

          Another thing’s missing: an anti-Islam movement that actually believes in defending the West rather than worrying about the constitutional rights of Muslims deemed to be merely spreading unsavory practices and criminality — and not, rather, actual hot war that is killing us, has been killing us for years, decades, and portends more horrific killing of us in the near and far future.

  4. Undaunted says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:08 am

    And, the Beslan School Massacre, too ~ committed ten years ago today ~ but more likely in the US.

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2014/09/still-crazy-after-all-these-years.html

    • bernie says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      I recall that, after the Beslan massacre, the Russian authorities took the corpses of the terrorists and slathered them in pork fat, then wrapped them up and buried them in pig skins. I think that most modern-day Western countries, including the U.S., are too PC and “sensitive” to do that howver, Imagine if the U.S. did that to the Boston marathon bomber after executing him, and widely broadcast it? I wonder how other Islamists would react?

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 12:33 pm

        This recalls the story about what happened when the British issued pork-soaked bullets to their Sepoy forces to quell Moslem trouble over there. Learning that the bullets were dipped in pork fat, the Hindu fighters refused to use them. Whoever had that idea was smart, cuz a Moslem who dies by the pig has no prospect for Jannat, and it is that, Moslem Porno Heaven, that propels Moslems, not any higher ideals, of which Islam has none.

        • bernie says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 1:35 pm

          Wasn’t it that the bullets had been dipped in cow fat, which made them offensive to Hindus? Or, were the Hindus upset about pork fat-dipped bullets, because most (though not all) of them are vegetarians?

          I also remember reading something about a U.S. commander in the Philippines who was using pork-fat dipped bullets against some Muslim rebel fighters, in the early 1900s.

        • SpiritOf1683 says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 3:41 pm

          Those bullets had a disc which had to be bitten off before use. That disc contained a mixture of pork and beef fat which offended both Muslims and Hindus, so we had the Indian Mutiny of 1857-58, which was put down ruthlessly at a cost, and those bullets were withdrawn.

      • sc says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 2:59 pm

        Why wait until the rat is executed? just wrap him up while he is still alive and give him a hypo of pigs blood so he will know that he will spend eternity in hell, after all allah will condemn him or so it says in his Qur’an. and all those terrorist that are caught should be given a hypo of pigs blood then sent back to their country, you can bet that they will not be wanting to die for allah any time soon.

        • bernie says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 7:04 pm

          That could also possibly be done to the Fort Hood killer, Dr. Hasan.

          re: the Saudi guy who vandalized the statues of Buddha in Japan, Imagine if some Yakuza got hold of him in prison, and forcibly tattooed images of swine on him (including animated ones, such as Porky Pig, Piglet from Winnie the Pooh, etc.).

          Also, the Japanese could feed him SPAM and sake in prison before deporting him to Saudi. That could be a strong deterrent to future Taliban wanna-bes.

        • bernie says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 7:13 pm

          Some of them might try to rationalize it though, and think, “Well, I’m killing infidels in jihad, so that expunges the sin of the pork or the suicide in the suicide-bombing, yadda-yadda.” However, it would dissuade at least some of them, yes.

    • Gail Griffin says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      Barudbakavar forgot El Cid

  5. Don McKellar says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:12 am

    Just watched Cameron’s statement in front of parliment. As soon as he mentioned more stringent measures to monitor Muslims, there was a bunch of booing from the peanut gallery. He started talking frankly about fighting an ideology that needs to be countered and that didn’t go over well, either. His move to strip citizenship from Muslims who try and come back from their international jihads met with resistance as well. Now analysists are talking about how his past efforts to do so have all been legally blocked because when their citizenship is stripped they become stateless citizens, and doing so is against internationa law. So he’s trying to find a “temporary” way of doing that.

    He still doesn’t get the reality of Islam being what it is and that none of these guys are “radical” at all, but only the most devout of Muslims. At least publically he doesn’t get it, anyways. But the way he’s acting, it’s almost like a little bell has started tinkling in his head with the british-voiced jihadi ISIS video.

    • Mac-101 says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 11:17 am

      Don’t be fooled. These people git it. They are just inhibited to what they can do, and most likely just makin a little show to no effect to appease the masses as da MUSLIMS take over da whole show! It is scripted, but why?

      • Don McKellar says

        Sep 1, 2014 at 11:25 am

        You sound little like one of those conspiracy cracker-head nutjobs. And what’s with the “da” crap? Just so you understand: Jihad Watch is a site/blog dealing with reality and factual events. You seem to be at the wrong place. Might I suggest Alex Jones? Or maybe you’re on cyber-jihad and think you’re fooling somebody? In that case, you should pack your bags and head to ISIS — da Muslims need you, bro.

        • Wellington says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 2:07 pm

          Agreed, Don McKellar. “Mac-101” with the “da” crap is tedious; it does indeed come across as wtc (way too cute).

          I also see in his 1:27 P.M. reply to you that he’s into some kind of conspiracy killing JFK, which is invariably a tip-off that you’re dealing with a loon, or at least an ignoramus. The evidence is massive that JFK was killed by a lone loser, Lee Harvey Oswald, and there isn’t a single respected historian who has asserted otherwise. Every conspiracy theory about this assassination has far more holes in it than does the official Warren Report. The last living member of the Warren Commission, the future President Gerald Ford but then Congressman Ford, said that one of the greatest sadnesses in his life is how so many believe some conspiracy took the life of Kennedy. Ford knew the truth of things here. Fitting and telling that “Mac-101” doesn’t.

        • voegelinian says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 5:55 pm

          Unfortunately, I’ve noticed this CT (conspiracy theory) tendency is a bit discomfittingly noticeable in the ragged borders of the CJ (the Counter-Jihad; another reason to have it formalized into the A.I.M. (Anti-Islam Movement), in order to weed out CTs, neo-Nazis, and PC MCs who aren’t really anti-Islam). Among some in the CJ, this CT tendency is the result of what I call the “Explanatory Vacuum”: since the problem of Western myopia is so broad and serious, and since it beggars the imagination to accuse all the myopics of frank stupidity, the only explanation left is the Conspiracy. We should instead in this regard follow the dictum of Sherlock Holmes:

          “How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?” –Sherlock Holmes (The Sign of the Four)

          It’s not so much that we rule out the Conspiracy because it is improbable (though it is) — but rather that it is unthinkable, given our trust in the virtues of our Western Civilization (for such calumnious charges against its very core and whole body would require standards of evidence which no Conspiracy Theorist is capable of producing, though they may in their feverishly hectic sincerely gnostic lunacy believe they are). Rather, the improbable conclusion which we follow along to in our deerstalker cap and magnifying glass in this deadly serious game which is afoot is that, after eliminating Stupidity (and the other idiotic -idities of the inadequate Esdrujula Explanation), and also after eliminating the Conspiracy Theory, we are left with the only Explanation possible — whose structure (and whose description our attentive eyes construct) is — we must conclude — identical with its nature. That nature is likely historically unique (though some parallels could be drawn to other cultures and societies in the past who, like our modern West, constructed elaborate self-shaming, irrationally (almost morbidly) self-critical paradigms that endangered them and made them increasingly vulnerable to enemies without and enemies they had invited in).

          I call this structure/description/nature “PC MC” (Politically Correct Multi-Culturalism) — a sociopolitical and psychological model that reflects a paradigm shift in worldview throughout the entire West over the past half century or so. I call our problem of Western myopia — a myopia which continues stubbornly to prevent the West from recognizing and identifying Muslims following their Islam as its enemy in a hot war — “PC MC” and not rather “Leftism” because over the years I have noticed that the majority of non-Leftists throughout the West themselves continue to defend Islam and the (vast) majority of Muslims.

        • Western Canadian says

          Sep 1, 2014 at 9:39 pm

          Like most if not all CT types, he claims ‘special knowledge’ of things that no one else (except other CT types) have ever heard…. And going off on several tangents, dragging in off topic noise is a hallmark of the looniest of CT’ers. Ask them to substantiate, or think clearly, and stand by for en epic fail.

        • visitor says

          Sep 2, 2014 at 2:09 am

          Mac, I don’t have the answers, but I think it is worth considering that there are more nefarious purposes occurring among our political leaders. I think this is particularly true in the US, with certain actions by the president. I think you raise some good points to ponder.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 12:34 pm

      No, Mr. Cameron,
      Not an “extremist caliphate”, just an Islamic Caliphate,
      not “fanatical”, not “warped”, not “twisted”,
      not “perverted”, not “misunderstood”, not “Islamist”.
      Just ordinary, basic, Koran-faithful Islam,
      “Strike-at-their-necks” Islam,
      “Kill-them-wherever-you-find-them” Islam.
      It’s all just Islam.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Sep 2, 2014 at 4:33 am

      Interesting “take” on what’s happening. All I can say to you and other British posters and lurkers (you *are* from the UK, yourself?) is to get behind him and PUSH. Write letters, try to push him a bit further down the road toward enlightenment (or, rather, Awful Realization), and…emphasise your support for the proposal to strip citizenship from those Jihad Tourists who try to return. If he gets lots and lots and lots of letters from non-Muslim Voters who *approve* of the measure, and if all the *other* MPs get similar letters, then it might give him a bit of backbone.

      You wrote – “Now analysts are talking about how his past efforts to do so have all been legally blocked because when their citizenship is stripped they become stateless citizens, and doing so is against internationa law. So he’s trying to find a “temporary” way of doing that.”

      Anything that is “temporary” can be renewed at intervals…Every bureaucrat knows that.

      and it strikes me that surely it is about time that old-fashioned concepts such as “Exile for the Term of Your Natural Life” and “Declared Outlaw” could be pulled out of the archives, dusted off, reassessed, and adapted for the present extremity.

  6. Julian says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:18 am

    It’s only a matter of time. Certain London boroughs (Tower Hamlets, Newham and others) are approaching 35-40% muslim population and we all know what happens when muslims get the majority… It was hard enough to rid Islam when the west was mostly united during the Crusades. Harder still will it be to rid Islam now and as a British Londoner, the way things are going, truly only a miracle will save Britain from total Islamic subjugation. If UKIP fail to get significant representation in the next parliament, I honestly believe Britain will be completely toast in the next 20-30 years.

  7. somehistory says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Can someone see clear enough to read what the other sign says? The one being carried by another person behind the officer?

    And why isn’t this signage against the law? Are the police following all sign carriers to their safe house in order to see what activity is being engaged to make their signs true?

    The beast is determined to make all bow down to it and serve it.

    • Charli Main says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      It would seem that British laws don´t apply to the Muslims. Seems like Cameron and co are terrified, that if Muslims are made subject to the laws of the land, they will stop making their wonderful contributions to the Country.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      That sign was from some years ago, when Labour were in power, and were very slow in taking any action.
      Signs like that may not occur so much today, but the movement behind them is unchanged and stronger.

  8. Jaladhi says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:46 am

    They openly declare their intens of murdering us and do carry it out when they get a chance and we continue to invite them and allow them to come and live here!! Whats wrong with this picture???

    Amazing – we have a death wish and Muslims are fulfilling it!!

  9. miriam rove says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:48 am

    I just watched Cameron addressing the parliament regarding British jihadists. Of course the praise of Islam and how peaceful it is was the first thing he said.m

    • Jaladhi says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 12:27 pm

      They all do it, praise Islam first, even before they say even before uttering any truthful word about jihadis implying these terrorists don’t follow. This way Muslims are appeased and the general population is kulled into believing that their Muslim neighbor is in no way a threat to them!! That also allows the leaders to continue more Muslim immigration into the country!!

  10. tpellow says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    This is how dangerously clueless PM Cameron is on Britain’s Islamic jihad problem-

    ‘Telegraph’ (£)-

    “David Cameron revives powers to relocate terror suspects to combat jihadist threat.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11068374/David-Cameron-revives-powers-to-relocate-terror-suspects-to-combat-jihadist-threat.html

  11. Stuart Smith says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    I have been warning of this for some years now, and no amount of armed police, so called special forces that are more than 20 minutes away when it kicks off, the only answer is an armed individual who is being attacked, if it happens in a place I am in I do not want to phone some policeman who I can shoot better than, and explain what is happening, and sit and be a target, as soon as it happens I want to be able to return accurate and deadly fire, it is the only way.

  12. tpellow says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:21 pm

    This article is relevant, emphasizing the role which NATO forces should play v. Islamic jihad threat in Europe.

    “IS is a European problem.
    If there is to be effective resistance to IS, it is mainland European countries — from where most of the ‘Western’ jihadis originate — that must step up to the plate, and NATO is the mechanism.”

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5196/is_is_a_european_problem

    It would be preferable to have only non-Muslim NATO forces deployed for this, not Muslim forces from Turkey’s NATO contingent, who may have divided political and religious loyalties.
    -Another reason to exclude Islamizing Turkey from NATO, and from E.U.

  13. Jax Tolmen says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    Is it just me, or is the world slowly adopting an increasingly apocalyptic mindset? Despite the majority of people continuing their lives here in the West with nary a thought to the impending terror – articles like this are becoming very dire in tone.

    I heard today from multiple governments stating that the Islamic State is the greatest threat the world faces today. I don’t know how accurate that is, as it could simply be hyperbole – but if true, everyone who wants to live in a free world should be very afraid right now.

    I hope it won’t take long for the world to finally, and unequivocally, wake up to the malignant threat within our borders. Islam. Something needs to be done because either way, we are on the precipice of the world changing. Whether it is for the better or not remains to be seen.

    We in the Counter Jihad will lead our people out of the quagmire of ignorance they have buried their heads in. It is our duty to inform all those around us of the evils of Islam and it’s followers. Political Correctness be dammed.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 7:27 pm

      “I heard today from multiple governments stating that the Islamic State is the greatest threat the world faces today. I don’t know how accurate that is, as it could simply be hyperbole – but if true, everyone who wants to live in a free world should be very afraid right now.”

      This dire, almost apocalyptic tone is both correct and incorrect — in precisely the wrong ways all around: the Islamic State is not the main problem; Islam is the main problem. Even in Iraq, a recent in-depth
      study of the insurgency (= jihad) against the elected Maliki government there showed that a) some 80-90% of the insurgents (= mujahideen) rampaging around massacring and exploding were not Islamic State but rather a motley tapestry of various Sunni factions; and that b) most of the ordinary Iraqi Muslims supported them.

      But we do have a dire problem — if not apocalyptic per se, certainly exigent and metastasizing, threatening to morph into a hot world war waged within the West if we don’t shake off our ridiculous PC MC (including inside the preciously small spearhead of the West, we canaries in the coalmine of the Counter-Jihad at the forefront of pushing the meme in the “battle space” of the war of ideas theater of this war) and start managing the problem of Muslims in the West.

  14. Charli Main says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:34 pm

    When there is a Mumbai style attack in London, the safest place to be, will be the Houses of Parliament, the headquarters of the Muslim Council of Britain and their parliamentary puppets.
    After all, the Muslims are most unlikely to attack their greatest enablers.————–

  15. bobm says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    how the pic above accurately shows the British Gov’t position … a cop looking like a dear in headlights and dozens of maggots showing signs threatening murder with absolutely no consequence….Call it what it is Cameron you lying creep… Islam is a cult .. a threat to world peace and order and life and limb…

  16. Michael Copeland says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    By aligning himself with an entity that is at war with the West the “citizen” should be treated as having rendered himself stateless.

  17. Isabella says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    I do not understand why the United Kingdom pulls out with insults like that. Why, why? There is a direct threat on that poster and UK has been attacked already on a July 7. This is not the way to gain respect.

  18. tpellow says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 1:54 pm

    Of course, there is no military front in the global war against Islamic jihad.

    But the locus of the Islamic jihad onslaught is shifting from Afghanistan, to nearly all of the Middle East, and increasingly now, to Europe.

  19. joeb says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 1:57 pm

    That will be Regent’s Park Barracks, then, the SAS base in London. It’s where they staged before doing the job on the Iranian Embassy.

  20. White Hunter says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    So “rendering a person”–that is, a murderous terrorist–“stateless is ‘illegal,'” Sir Menzies? Very well, then. Hanging a traitor by the neck until he is dead IS legal.

    So let’s get on with it.

  21. Jade says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 2:47 pm

    The U.K., where Robert Spencer is barred from entering but Anjem Choudary is free to preach his hate on the streets, day after day. That fact tells me all I need to know about the U.K.

    • Isabella says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      Unbelievable, but it is the reality plain and stupid.

  22. Arjun says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    Its quite appalling to see a traitor with a sign threatening the nation and the cop meekly watching him. The govt. or the concerned authorities who are supposed to deal with this obviously are sleeping on the job. Majority of the non-muslim population are living by the motto “ignorance is bliss.” They are busy on social media, having a ball, checking on the who’s scr…..ng who tabloids. Facts and warnings don’t seem to be enough to wake em up. Its up to the people like us who are aware of the impending disaster which is all around us, just waiting to happen. Just like any disaster, we can warn, but we can’t protect all of them. We should prepare ourselves, get some training and have our families prepared for unforeseen events.

  23. Beagle says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:01 pm

    A jihadi who fights for the ‘Islamic State’ is not “stateless” and should remain there until glorious martydom, hopefully sooner rather than later.

  24. Terry McCann says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:49 pm

    Who cares what “Ming” Campbell says? He and the rest of the Liberal Democrats would do away completely with what little we have in the way of border controls. Him and the rest of that party are just oxygen thieves, mind you so are Labour and most of the Tories!

  25. Isabella says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    Prime Minister Cameron:
    Shut down the mosques in UK, start something new and you will see other Western countries will embrace your initiative. Come on, be a Churchill of the 21st century.

  26. SpiritOf1683 says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:52 pm

    London is about 35 miles across East to West and about 30 miles North to South. Even the inner core of the city is about 10 miles across. Special forces can’t cover the whole of that vast area. If anything untoward was noticed or happened, it would be a huge slice of luck if it was nipped in the bud. Only the intelligence services in conjunction with the British public keeping their eyes open and looking out for suspicious activities and reporting them can prevent an atrocity. My guess is that Cameron is trying to look strong after weeks of incompetence. Nobody was on the scene when thart poor soldier Lee Rigby was beheaded in broad daylight.

  27. SpiritOf1683 says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    Aniother thing, why is it being reported that these special forces are in London? There are other cities in the UK and if anything is being planned, this is merely tipping off jihadis. Back in the 1980s, the IRA struck London, Birmingham, Manchester and Warrington, and you wouldn’t have thought about Warrington being a target. people everywhere have to watch out, because the chemicals used to carry out the 7/7 atrocity were mixed in Leeds, almost 200 miles from London.

  28. Bridget Ames says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 4:20 pm

    I can not believe that “person” can just stand there with a “threatening” sign and not be thrown in jail. It is really remarkable to see what stupidity we will engage in just to make people feel good about themselves. jihadist will sleep soundly at night but I can not understand how Europeans and Westerners can with this staring them in the face. The Russians seem to know what to do about these problems. Putin seems to have a good understanding of their dangers, perhaps I am unaware of the many terror threats they are making on the Russians and the many 9/11 threats to them either.

    • voegelinian says

      Sep 1, 2014 at 7:32 pm

      Russia has had more Mohammedan attacks on it than probably any other Western nation, with more loss of Russian non-Muslim life. The Russians don’t seem to be significantly less soft on their indigenous Muslims than any other Western country, from what I can tell.

  29. pdxnag says

    Sep 1, 2014 at 11:16 pm

    The Muslim victims are really the perpetrators, as they have been for 1,400 years.

    ISIS is everywhere Muslims are. It all depends on how you define IS. No Muslim is stateless anywhere because they claim exclusive sovereignty over all the world on behalf of the Islamic Ummah.

    It is all non-Muslims that are viewed as stateless, and without any right under Islamic law to continue to live.

  30. dumbledoresarmy says

    Sep 2, 2014 at 5:21 am

    Dear Metropolitan police and MI5: **stake out the synagogues** and the Chabad house, if there is one in London; it will be high on the jihadis’ list of Things to Destroy.

    A further measure: don’t confine military readiness to special forces… **give ALL currently enlisted non-Muslim British soldiers – and reservists, and veterans – currently on British soil the “keys of the city” and grant them license to visibly carry a regulation weapon at all times, with permission to use it at their discretion when and if any Muslim or Muslims in their vicinity threatens or attempts an attack.

  31. Almach says

    Sep 2, 2014 at 7:23 am

    they ARE really desperate, but these are only ineffective half measure that won’t remedy their sloppiness.

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