Just today some Twitter clowns (including a professor of Islamic Studies) were claiming yet again that Islam actually has no death penalty for apostasy. Funny how so many Muslims didn’t get the memo.
Muhammad commanded: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57), and the alleged “numerous verses in the Koran” that “guarantee freedom of belief” have not prevented all the sects of Islam and all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite, from teaching that apostates should be killed.
Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi`i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-`ashriyyah, Al-Ja`fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.” There is only disagreement over whether the law applies only to men, or to women also – some authorities hold that apostate women should not be killed, but only imprisoned in their houses until death.
“Doubly damned as a Syrian and a Christian convert,” by Peter Goodspeed, Toronto Star, September 26, 2014 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Born and raised a Muslim in Syria, he was given the name “Tarek” in high school, when government officials wanted to enlist computer students to serve in an Internet surveillance program.
He never worked in the unit, but he has used the name to protect himself, both as a man fleeing Syria’s civil war and, more recently, as a recent convert to Christianity.
Now a refugee being sponsored by Toronto’s St. Philip Neri Catholic Parish in Downsview, Tarek* has spent more than a year waiting for his application to be processed so he can move to Canada.
But he maintains his assumed identity in Lebanon because he has been told his father and stepbrothers are determined to kill him for becoming a Christian.
“They are searching to cut my throat,” he says matter-of-factly. “I’ve been told they have hired someone to find me to get the mission accomplished.”
Tarek says he is nervous about the delays surrounding his move to Canada.
“Sometimes, I feel in danger. Especially when I go into the streets, when I come to Beirut. You never know if someone is looking for you.
“I’m living in a place where the majority are Muslims. So whenever I go to church on Sunday, they would know I’m Christian. So I don’t say anything about my religion, and when I go to mass, I say I am going to English classes because I plan to travel.”…
Champ says
“They are searching to cut my throat,” he says matter-of-factly. “I’ve been told they have hired someone to find me to get the mission accomplished.”
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IS commits this savagery, too, hmm …
Don McKellar says
It’s all very simple with these people making claims defending Islam — they are counting on one thing: that their listening audience is too lazy to gain even a basic education on Islam. It’s that simple. And it works to a great degree, of course. The normal person in an advanced, normal culture, wants to believe the best of other cultures. They want to believe it when somebody tells them a heartwarming lie that dispells their fears about Islam. Naturally they do. To actually learn something about it requires they open a book and then check that book to make sure it’s got it’s facts straight. So when coddled, uninformed celebrities like Ben Afleck spout off defending Islam based on a bunch of delusions and lies that they’re completely ignorant of, it is no surprise. That would be the day that people like him would ever actually read a book by Robert Spencer, then check up on what’s in the book against the sources to make sure it’s actually true. That’s not going to happen. These Twitter clowns know this.
Don McKellar says
Once again I wish I could edit my posts on here to fix the typos and grammar errors after I’ve read them again. But I understand why that is prevented on JihadWatch.
Laura says
Try writing your posts first in word, then after editing, copy and paste over.
Gary Kuemper says
Don McKellar well said.
TH says
Indeed, and these days it is so easy to find out the truth about Islam in many good websites plus there is easy accesss to excellent books like those of Robert Spencer. Please God this young man will get to safety soon. What kind of religion is it that brings one own family to try to kill you? It is diabolical.
Jay Boo says
Muslims are so insecure about Islam that they wish to honor kill apostates in their own family as their fellow Muslims in the neighborhood wait with gleeful anticipation and rat on one another daily in order to feel better about themselves as they roll about in the pigsty of Islam.
Champ says
“they wish to honor kill apostates …”
mohammedans are followers of satan, and they wish to silence the truth: Jesus Christ! …yeah truth is hate to those who hate the truth!
“The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify that its works are evil.” — John 7:7
Coolio says
“Yes, and that’s how I know he can be beaten. Because he’s a fanatic. And the fanatic is always concealing a secret doubt.”
George Smiley , on Karla in John Le Carré’s Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
paddy says
What he and his family should is drop an ‘ecstasy’ pill and get loved up for a few hours…that would sort them out…
Laura says
I’m not in any way religious myself but, I think in Deuteronomy it says something about ‘if you know of a town where they worship any other god but me, go there and kill them, men , women, children and livestock.’
However, the crucial difference between Christianity and islam is that Christianity has moved on and no longer kills worshippers of ‘other gods’ unlike Islam which is perpetually anchored in the 7th century.
Jen says
That’s because there’s a New Testament which is against this type of behaviour and the main role model for human behaviour is Jesus in Christianity, not Muhammad. Deuteronomy is the OT.
chase says
Yes, the bible is only descriptive of violence,however the Quran is prescriptive of violence,and thats what makes this ghastly text exeedingly dangerous.
Beagle says
Sounds to me like you are citing one of the many references to Amalekites in the Torah. Like all such passages in the Bible it is by its terms limited to actual Amalekites who no longer exist. The most radical interpretation I have read connects those who wish to kill all the Jews to Amalekites.
So in a nutshell, and this is obvious when one observes the global jihad or history, the limited Old Testament calls to violence are nothing like the open-ended calls to warfare found in al-Tawba (Sura Nine) 5, 29, and 73, inter alia.
Jews do not now convert, and have never as far as I know converted, people to Judaism by force. Even the Crusaders in the Outremer, the closest thing to Christian jihadis, had no such doctrine.
Conversion through coercion is mainstream Islamic theology and the key to its expansion historically. Muhammad in his ‘peaceful’ Meccan period was plotting to conquer and convert his neighbors and the world per the Islamic sources. Earth is the Islamic promised land, according to them.
Beagle says
Or maybe the Moabites? Some group of Ites which no longer exists probably. Every time I look up the calls to violence in the Bible cited by Islamic apologists the limiting passages have been removed.
The Quran is different. Usually the violence is normative for all time and unlimited by its terms. Tafsir supports this as well.
Jen says
Yes, there is no ‘stay’ in Islam to restrict it’s use. Yours is a clearer explanation than mine. The sites set up by Muslims to compare this to the Quran like to conveniently forget things.
Jen says
Paddy thinks having religious beliefs means believing that life cannot also be “what you make it.” He’s an atheist and is “confused” at how religious people could think the two can co-exist. I wish some atheists would do a bit more thinking before assuming these things….
TH says
Be at ease, nowhere in the Bible does it say anything like that, plus the violent texts in the Old Testament must be properly intrpreted and with the coming of Jesus Christ the whole of the Bible is reinterpreted so that some of the rules about diet, plus the sabbath, and others are simply superseded. Jesus taught universal love, forgivenes s of enemies, mercy, compassion. Mahommed was a badit, a warlord a haater of Jews and Chistians who massacred thousands of them. There is absolutely no comparison. That is not to say that some Chistians have failed to live up to what their faith demands of them and have committed atrocities, but they have been and are bad Christians. On the contrary, the bad muslim is the one who fails to fulfill the commands of Allah to kill non muslims. For us the bad muslim is the good one as he is not interested in killing us. There is always the possibility that he will begin to take the faith seriously and begin to kill, as some have done.
Mo says
@ Laura
“I’m not in any way religious myself but, I think in Deuteronomy it says something about ‘if you know of a town where they worship any other god but me, go there and kill them, men , women, children and livestock.’”
If you admit you’re not “in any way religious”, then why would you make claims about a book you know nothing about and have never read?
JIMJFOX says
Just to balance the ledger a little-
“In a previous post, I counted the number of people that were killed by God in the Bible. I came up with 2,476,633, which, of course, greatly underestimates God’s total death toll, since it only includes *those killings for which specific numbers are given*. No attempt was made to include the victims of Noah’s flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc., with which the good book is filled. Still, 2 million is a respectable number even for world class killers”. – See more at: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com.au/2006/08/who-has-killed-more-satan-or-god.html#sthash.7eshalLM.dpuf
G-d was an amateur compared to Allah/Mohammed, of course.Historians estimate 270-350 million (ongoing) slaughtered by ISLAM.
But G-d is by no means as innocent as Christians pretend.
Mo says
@ JIMJFOX
You know nothing and care nothing about what the Bible says about anything.
Now, address ISLAM, which is the focus of this particular post, as well as this ENTIRE WEBSITE.
Jen says
I’d prefer to die in a flood or other great disaster than be captured and tortured by any Muslim in accordance with Muhammad, haha.
Allan De Guzman says
It isn’t murder when God takes back the life he has given, for He is the author of life. What he has freely given, he has the authority to claim.
Daniel Colabuno says
Deuteronomy 13: 11 And all Israel shall hear and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
Dear Laura please read the whole chapter, In the Old Testament, the Lord was dealing with Israel, not with the nations, like today; and why do you comment about the Bible, if you said you are not a religious person, meaning you are not a believer in our Lord Christ Jesus. And thanks for noticing the difference, Islam is not a religion is a political tyrany of the worse in every way.
thanks
Will says
Despite the constant production of OT verses to prove that JudaeoChristianity is as violent as is Islam, there are two utterly negating facts totally disregarded by the atheist , Muslim and leftist morons( I am agnostic):
1) that the NT abrogates totally the OT and the later is only kept as it was the book of Jesus of Nazareth;
2) the man: Jesus of Nazareth is the cornerstone of Christianity, which itself forms the inherent framework of western civilisation and apart from knocking over a few moneylender tables in the temple, there is no record nor word of J o N advocating or practising violence. The violence of the Christian Church at ANY time (whether necessary(as vs Islam) or not)was political man in action and controverted totally the words of its prophet.
It takes ten seconds to understand this and a lifetime to deny it.
john spielman says
he should go to the Canadian embassy an make an immediate application for asylum because of these death threats!
Mirren10 says
He would only get asylum if he was a mohammedan. Christians are not eligible.
Blind Druid says
According to islamic “scholars”, everybody is born a muslim. So I guess the western world should just nuke itself and be done with it.
n.b. The non-capitalization of words pertaining to this horrible cult is fully intentional on my part.
Dave J says
Every Muslim is automatically a prisoner to the religion and all its rules.
Islam can never be reformed because any change or criticism is automatically considered blasphemy, for which the punishment is (again) death.
We need some major funding to establish a path of escape from this ideology and support for its opposition, but not one that involves immigration here. If there really is a moderation movement in Islam they should be funding it themselves, but all we hear is mumbled excuses, victim talk and comforting deceptions.
Dave J says
Welcome to Isamic “family values”. The whole honor killing idea just shows how completely pathologically backward this ideology is. How can there be any “honor” in killing your own family member?
Jen says
That is an amusing thing. I’ve heard them criticise “western family values,” saying there is a lack of it. Interesting, how honour killing forms part of their family values. You can’t even trust your own family not to kill you when you criticise Muhammad. See the story of the Saudi girl who died after her brother cut her tongue out of her mouth and beat her. Countless other stories like that one too.
Davegreybeard says
Well paddy, did you find a clue?
Uncle Vladdi says
HERE WE GO AGAIN!
Re: “Muhammad commanded: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57)”
ROBERT, DEATH TO APOSTATES IS RIGHT IN THE QUR’AN ITSELF: (Sura 4:89)!
JIMJFOX says
“Pigsty of Islam”
LOVE IT!! Consider it ‘appropriated’
Jeccuntaz F says
That tells you that nuthead invented Islam and he didn’t want anyone to leave or change the faith that he invented. Muslims educated and not educated are still following this, why fellow a belief system who been invented by a man who marry 6yrs old? why do that? I am happy this guy is converted and I hope many more people find out the true and leave.
fair_dinkum says
well, under islam, of course they are looking to kill him. it says to in the koran.
or is this one of those ‘nothing to do with islam’ stories?
its difficult to keep track.
Jerome Gelb says
At its foundation, the crucial difference between Islam and all other religions is that Islam’s sole focus is on preparation for the afterlife & the achievement of the highest level of promised paradise by martyrdom in the advancement of the supremacy of Islam.
Christianity & Judaism focus on living the best, most moral, ethical and good life here on Earth, with ones deeds determining one’s afterlife reward or punishment.
Islam mandates that Muslims judge others and impose a death sentence on those who don’t share their beliefs or who try to leave. It is also the only religion that has no quarrel with multiple wives, beating women, keeping of concubines, the taking of booty from one’s captives, killing unarmed prisoners of war, sex with children and the enslavement of others. As a psychiatrist of 30yrs experience, I can categorically state that Muhammad was a psychopathic mass murderer and serial killer, who crafted entirely self-serving psychopathic rules to ensure himself power and wealth. Sharia Law is a perfect reflection of Muhammad’s psychopathy, with sadistic torture and execution of all who might challenge him and his incalculable narcissism. It is almost certain that he was a blood-thirsty sexual predator and a vicious sexual sadist, meaning he obtained pleasure from his despicable acts of violence and his obsession with power and wealth by any means.
abad says
Some Common Sense 101 here:
When someone like Tarek crosses the tracks, the last thing one wants or needs to do is continue having any contact with those who remain on the wrong side. Converting to Christianity from Islam is a wonderful thing but you need to leave the past behind now that you have a new lease on life.