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David Cameron on Eid al-Adha: Islamic State has “nothing to do with the great religion of Islam, a religion of peace”

Oct 12, 2014 6:26 am By Robert Spencer

“I’m not a scholar of any religion,” Cameron adds a moment later. You can say that again.

He also several times praises, in this brief address, the “enormous contributions” that British Muslims make to Britain, but the only example he adduces is the marvelous “fire-starter” bowl of curry he recently enjoyed. He praises British Muslims for leading the country in charitable contributions, with no reference to the many Islamic charities that have been shut down for funding jihad, and no reference either to the fact that Muslims in the UK overwhelmingly give to Muslim charities that aid Muslims, not to any groups that aid non-Muslims. He also brags about Britain’s aid to the Palestinian Authority, saying it is helping “Palestine” “gain the statehood it so richly deserves.”

Speaking of Abraham’s sacrifice, Cameron says: “This is the same in my Bible as it is in your Qur’an.” The Islamic Feast of Eid al-Adha commemorates the end of the pilgrimage to Mecca, the Hajj, and Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son. The story is not the same at all in Islamic tradition as it is in the Judeo-Christian tradition. The Islamic understanding is that Abraham sacrificed Ishmael, not Isaac.

And it gets worse. In Genesis 22:15-18, Abraham is rewarded for his faith and told he will become a blessing to the nations: “by your descendants shall all the nations of the earth bless themselves, because you have obeyed my voice.”

But the Muslim audience that Cameron was addressing does not read Genesis. They read the Qur’an, in which Allah says that Abraham is an “excellent example” for the believers when he tells his pagan family and people that “there has arisen, between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone” (60:4). The same verse relates that Abraham is not an excellent example when he tells his father, “I will pray for forgiveness for you.”

Thus the Qur’an, in its picture of Abraham, the man Cameron invokes as a symbol of the common elements of the three faiths, holds up hatred as exemplary, while belittling the virtue of forgiveness. Cameron thus here reinforces a worldview that takes for granted the legitimacy of everlasting enmity between Muslims and non-Muslims — and does so while attempting to build bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims.

This demonstrates once again how crucial it is for Western policymakers to have a detailed understanding of Islam’s theological and cultural frame of reference, and of the actual teachings of the Qur’an. Based on this lack of this understanding, politicians keep making fatuous statements like the one Cameron makes here, and policy errors keep multiplying.

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  1. Jaladhi says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:44 am

    Not only Muslims lie, bu they have hired our top politicians to lie for them. How disgusting it is to hear from British PM “IS has nothing to do with great religion of Islam, a religion of peace Where is a Churchill in Britain when you need him??

    Now this getting to the point of being a traitor to British people.

    • Judi says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 7:25 am

      It’s getting near election time. He’s after the muzzrat vote!

      • Jen says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 8:00 am

        I think he’s after the Muslim votes, while at the same time genuinely clueless when talking about the Qur’an and trying to compare it with his Bible. If he was really intent on his speech being factually correct, he could have arranged for someone to do research before writing his speech. He’s not interested in telling the truth. It’s intentional ignorance.

        How many charities in the UK are Muslim-run and serve both non-Muslims and Muslims? Are there any? Because Muslims aren’t encouraged to give charity to non-Muslims. In contrast, there are countless charitable organisations that are started by non-Muslims and which serve everyone.

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 13, 2014 at 11:59 am

          Not only that, but “Zakat”—often mistranslated in the West simply as “charity”—goes to fund violent Jihad more than it goes to fund what we would think of as charity.

          And this is not “money laundering” or a misuse of such monies—the purpose of Zakat is to further the cause of Islam—and that means funding Jihad and Madrasses more than it does clinics, orphanages, or secular schools.

      • umbra says

        Oct 13, 2014 at 9:41 am

        He is indeed going after islamic votes. However, he will be disappointed, because the Labour Party (and lib dem) are far far far more effective when it comes to grovelling for islamic votes.

  2. duh_swami says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:48 am

    This seems about right for the kissy appeaser. Why not just roll over and play dead? Better yet, if he thinks Islam is so great, why not do the shahada tango in public? Let us see how much you really believe…otherwise, David is still a filthy kuffar, the worst of creatures. I’m not sure who he thinks he is fooling, certainly not his Mahoundian audience. They may like being buttered up by this ignorant kuffar, but that does not mean they like him…

  3. AntiEurabia says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:51 am

    Thankfully, by May 2015 Imam Cameron may well be an ex-prime minister, or in a severely weakened position. In two parliamentary by-elections last week the anti immigration, anti EU party UKIP made significant progress, including getting their first parliamentary seat. Current predictions (today’s newspapers) suggest that UKIP could win over 120 seats in the next general election and may hold the balance of power. As a UK resident and British citizen, one can but hope.

    • PRCS says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 10:43 am

      Not that we’re doing any better here, in the U.S., but one must do more than just hope.

  4. Kristian says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:52 am

    Western leaders are brainwashed when it comes to islam, there is no other word for it. And they are dragging our societies into civil war. Shame on them.

    • Jerry says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 3:11 pm

      Saying they are brainwashed relies on the unsound assumption that they have brains, or, alternatively, if they do, that they actually use them.

      • Jerry says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 3:14 pm

        On a second thought, does CoMoron insinuate the Winston Churchill was lying about Islam?

  5. Jen says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:53 am

    “It demonstrates how close together our religions *are*!”

    I know that politicians’ ignorance of Islam is a serious matter but I couldn’t help but laugh a bit while reading this. How could you get it so wrong? I didn’t detect anything in behaviour which suggests that he doesn’t genuinely believe what he’s saying though. Poor little mite. He is completely confused!

    • Mirren10 says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      He is neither a ‘poor little mite’, nor is he ‘completely confused’.

      camoron knows very well exactly what he is doing, and he doesn’t give a tuppeny damn. All he cares about is the mohammedan vote, and the chance to stay in power a little bit longer.

      I don’t know how you can think that a creature who wants to see London ”the Islamic capital of finance” and thinks we should integrate with mohammedans, not they with us, is the slightest bit confused.

      • Cicero says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 5:11 pm

        Yes I must say I was disheartened by that statement that Britain aims to be the Islamic finance centre in the West. Does Cameron not know that financial power is followed by cultural power? In that that we will also see Britain become the Islamic centre of education,Sharia law, Islamic sexual practices eg polygamy, marriage to girls under twelve,sexual grooming of under age non- Muslim. Girls, demise of the alcohol industry, non- provision of non-halal meat, curtailing of free speech ,curtailing of freedom of expression,death of civil liberties etcetera.

        By the way Britian already has shariah compliant funds ring fenced for education loans to Muslim students only. The better educated the Muslims become , that coupled withtheearlymbrainwashing by the numerous madrasahs will lead to more sophisticated operators inthe case of Islamic jihad in the already dying body of indigenous Britain.

      • Jen says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 6:10 pm

        It was sarcasm! See my other comment.

        • Jen says

          Oct 12, 2014 at 6:16 pm

          And it was SARCASM in reference to the “confusion” over comparing the Bible story with the QUR’AN – hence the quote I used. I didn’t mention anything else that he said- I was specifically talking about his comparison to the Bible. I believe he genuinely doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about on that matter- he’s not lying as such. Just intentionally ignorant.

  6. RonW says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:56 am

    …. sob …

    I think I’m just going to crawl into a dark space and not come out for a hun.. no two hundred years.

    I’ve lost all hope. Officially.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 8:16 am

      You’re British?

      If you are: *dont* give up. That’s what the mohammedans are counting on: the paralysis of despair.

      Go to Stonehenge. Go to Sutton Hoo. Go to Glastonbury. Go to Caernarvon. Go the Sussex weald. Go to St Paul’s, and take that stairway that goes up to the top of the dome; or go to Westminster Abbey and stand in front of the altar. Preferably, find a few likeminded friends to go with you.

      Remind yourself of every bit of the history of Britain that is *good*, honorable, true, just, and worthy of praise. (There’s plenty that isn’t; that’s the nature of human sin; but there is also so much that is and was *good* and should not be allowed to be erased and destroyed by the Nothing that is Islam).

      And recommit yourself to affirm life, and to go on resisting the Islamisation of Britain with everything you have and everything you are.

      Tolkien put it the right way in the song he gave to his indomitable Sam Gamgee – “I *will* not say the day is done, nor bid the stars farewell”.

      • Banana Bender says

        Oct 13, 2014 at 7:37 pm

        Well said, DDA! I sincerely hope and pray that we here in Oz develop some much needed backbone and DO NOT go down the same path as the DK (Disunited Kingdom)!

  7. pumbar says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:04 am

    I really wish I could have a “little chat” with that weasel in a back alley somewhere. In fact, I think most reasonable people in the UK share my opinion. That cretin is a disgrace to the name English or British. He should be pilloried and have rotten vegetables thrown at him for thirty days, then tarred and feathered and dragged the length of our land in shame. Then send him to the tower to rot in his own juices.

    • Judi says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 7:29 am

      Ed Miliband is worse. He was on Gaza’s side during the last incursion, his mother joined the Mavi Mara flotilla, and guess what ….he’s Jewish!!

      • Jerry says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 3:17 pm

        Ed Milibland is just as Jewish as the Judenrat (Jewish collaborators with the SS and the GESTAPO).

    • Mirren10 says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 4:53 pm

      ”He should be pilloried and have rotten vegetables thrown at him for thirty days, then tarred and feathered and dragged the length of our land in shame. Then send him to the tower to rot in his own juices.”

      I would prefer to see him hanging from his heels in Birdcage Walk. Along with blair, brown, mandelson, may, and every single other bloody traitor.

  8. Cicero says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:06 am

    It is not only the heads of UK government who are speaking erroneously and misleading the general British public about the true intentions of this soon to be primary British religious system.
    Through out many state and local government offices last week the non believers were treated to lavish Eid Ul Adha lunches paid for by their Muslim workmates. As the greedy kuffar scoffed down the greasy goat and
    Lamb curries not a genuine enquiry was heard from the non- Muslims as to the significance of the Eid lunch and what it was celebrating. Meanwhile their wolf in sheep,s clothing workmates stood looking on smiling and smiling into their beards. I am not hopeful about the future! For the non- Muslim children of the future UK! Wake up you Britons!

  9. charityintruth says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:06 am

    I did not know the differences in the Bible and koran about Abraham. I hope someone can clear up Cameron’s misunderstanding on the two different stories the Bible and koran tell. Thank you for your perseverance of the truth that Christians and others are in danger from what the koran teaches. I plan to email this article out, too.

  10. Jackbo Godfrey says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:18 am

    Cameron = Chamberlain. Denial, appeaser, but so is most of the UK’s people.
    Unfortunately, this Islamist Renaissance will have to get much more big bad and ugly before both politicans and people wake up.

    Thank-you for posting another “Religion of Peace” where is my vomit bag scenario . . . Again. Thanks to all these “religion of peace” nonsense I am suffering from geopolitical chronic vomiting syndrome!

  11. Maria says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:20 am

    He is an idiot and an appeaser, all he wants is votes.

  12. Buraq says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:22 am

    Cameron is as daft as a brush!

    Clown!

    • sencit says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 8:11 am

      D.C. – stupid boy!

  13. Barry of here and there says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:30 am

    Do these clowns not understand that Militant Islam has been the aggressor in almost all of the interactions between Islam and the West, way back to long before 732AD

    • Jaladhi says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 8:03 am

      It is only one Islam and it is just Islam that is militant. There is no other Islam as our leaders, media, academia and all Islamic apologists want us to believe. By saying militant Islam these cretins imply there is a peaceful Islam when there is none!!

      • PRCS says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 11:36 am

        Barry: “Militant Islam”

        Jaladhi : “It is only one Islam and it is just Islam that is militant.”

        You are both correct, as the word Islam, as a noun, means both:

        1. The religious faith of Muslims (which DOES command violence) which you are referencing.

        2. The whole body of Muslim believers (some percentage of whom DO commit violence in accordance with the Qur’an’s commands) which I believe Barry references.

        IMO, it would be better to use any version of “militant Muslims”.

        Expand

        It is only one Islam and it is just Islam that is militant.

        noun

        1.

        the religious faith of Muslims

        • PRCS says

          Oct 12, 2014 at 11:38 am

          OOPS. Shoulda checked that.

          Barry: “Militant Islam”

          Jaladhi : “It is only one Islam and it is just Islam that is militant.”

          You are both correct, as the word Islam, as a noun, means both:

          1. The religious faith of Muslims (which DOES command violence) which you are referencing.

          2. The whole body of Muslim believers (some percentage of whom DO commit violence in accordance with the Qur’an’s commands) which I believe Barry references.

          IMO, it would be better to use any version of “militant Muslims”.

  14. Amy Soldier says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:35 am

    There are too many dolt heads like him in Western governments, which begs the question, why? Why are there so many Western-folk in positions of power so bent on the acceptance of peaceful-acting people bent on and devoted to a doctrine of subversion of the institutions of the government they represent?

    I don’t read news reports lately of Great Britain having a problem with taxes and social programs anymore. Their government coffers seemed to have been quietly filled, somehow. Lots of government jobs are secure, and so many Western politicians talking claptrap similar to a Senator talking “for the record” in the movie, The Godfather, Part Two.

    Why? Why are so many Western politicians deliberately talking nonsense and intentionally misleading the public about the intentions of the many Muslims working inside their governments?

    • Cicero says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 4:15 pm

      Well said soldier . You are welcome to post further on this site since you have be there ,bought the T-shirt etc

  15. Max Publius says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 7:56 am

    Where is Cameron’s orange jumpsuit? Why isn’t he on his knees? Being a hostage of jihadists would be the only excuse for this open collaboration. A western politician at this time should say nothing about Islam, as there is nothing good to say, but it’s obvious these criminals are fully compromised. What more evidence is there than the billions invested in London by Qatar et al, despite open sponsorship of Islamic State, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, etc.

    Does Cameron et al know nothing about demographic growth rates? In a few years, Cameron and the other collaborationists will have two choices: Become Muslim or fear being strung up by their ankles Mussolini style for being a quising traitors who collapsed their once prosperous country.

  16. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 8:20 am

    Cameron is being lied to.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5847-cameron-is-being-lied-to

    • PRCS says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 11:54 am

      Thanks for that article.

      It’s difficult to imagine, however, that our “leaders” truly do not know what Islam really teaches or that they do not discuss those teachings in secure, closed, private settings.

      I wonder what Dave and Boris say about Islam between themselves when they’re sure no one else is listening.

    • Jerry says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 3:34 pm

      CoMoron is doing the lying, and partially also lies to himself.

  17. Tradewinds says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 8:34 am

    Is this guy kidding or what? Seriously he should be carted off to the mental home.

    Nobody can be this stupid without being mentally defective.

  18. Tradewinds says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 8:37 am

    “enormous contributions” that British Muslims make to Britain” – Dhimmi Cameron

    Heh! There aren’t any which is why he provided no examples. Good Grief how the mighty are fallen (England).

  19. IQ al Rassooli says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 8:42 am

    David Cameron is NOT the only STUPID leader in the world regarding understanding Islam. Almost every leader in Europe, the USA, Latin America, Australia etc are the same: CRIMINALLY negligent creatures leading their people to self destruction

    ISIS is in a manner of speaking ‘God’s final warning’ to the peoples of the world to WAKE up and overthrow their incompetent and Islam servile leaders

    UKIP is winning and in France Marie Le Pen is rising because the men and the women in the street are the ones at the receiving end of Islamic terror and hatred

    Hopefully by next year, most of these utterly treasonous leaders will be removed from office

    No believing Muslim can ever be loyal to any Constitution, Law or People who are NOT Muslims because their Quran FORBIDS them from being law abiding and integrated citizens

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 9:30 am

      Exactly:
      “I am a traitor to America because my religion requires me to be.”
      Samir Khan, US citizen, Al Qaeda member, formerly of North Carolina and New York City.

      • PRCS says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 12:26 pm

        And one of the passages which COMMANDS that:

        Qur’an 9:29
        “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”

        “This is not simply a quaint and antiquated instruction from times past. The Koran is held to be “true from eternity to eternity” (Sam Solomon, former professor of Sharia law). “

  20. Myxlplik says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 8:46 am

    And just when I think our leaders can’t possibly become more detached from reality, they yet again find a way to raise the bar. Willful ignorance by false assertion is the only way forward for them.

  21. Steve says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Contribution to our society indeed Mr Cameron—-have you conveniently forgotten about the muslim sex gangs in Rotherham and many other cities in the north of England,the radicalization in the mosques and the brainwashing of children in schools in Birmingham. Have you suffered been beaten up and racially abused for being white in your own country. Why no mention of the endemic persecution of christians around the world–of course only muslims can be victims. Speak the truth for a change—hypocrite

  22. Berq says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Mr,Cameron.you say you are not a schalor of any religion,then how you can say that islam is a religion of peace?You are lieing not to only muslims but intentionly British people too.Do not appease them for their votes.My humble advice to you is this that before you comment on Islam, take advice from a non-muslim British person.Many British have study the Islam and know Islam better than you.Muslims themselves cannot live in peace and would not let any Kafir country live in peace.People of world are rightfully suspicious about muslims,because muslims whether they are in the islamic countries OR in the west,cannot establish by their deeds and actions that Islam is the religion of peace as they claim.Please do not let the British people laugth at you.

  23. Charli Main says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:16 am

    Keep in mind folks, that all Cameron´s pro Islamic utterances are written for him by his Guru in all matters Islamic—–” Baroness” Wasi.
    Cameron himself, is utterly clueless about the Koran and the Koranic inspired intentions of the stealth Jihadists currently invading Britain.
    The ” enormous contributions” made by Muslims in Britain are geared to eventually take control of Britain´s financial systems and infiltrate every aspect of Britain´s social structure—Police, Military, Judiciary, Local Government and National Health services.
    MUSLIMS ARE THE PARASITIES SYSTEMATICALLY TAKING CONTROL OF THE HOST.

    • Judi says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 12:12 pm

      You are probably right. She showed her true colours when she resigned over the Gaza incursion. Antisemitic bitch!

  24. Nick says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:46 am

    I couldn’t watch more than 2 minutes of this crap. The monumental appeasement and ass-kissing of the enemy is just sickening.

  25. tpellow says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Cameron, who masquerades as UK’s PM, is dangerously ignorant on Islam, appeasing Islamic interests, especially in General Election year, and banning opponents of Islamic jihad!
    And he is still campaigning to get 80 million Muslims of Islamizing Turkey into the European Union, to speed up the Islamization of Europe!

    And, of course, Cameron keeps quiet about the link between Qatar, and Islamic jihad finance!

  26. alyn21 says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:50 am

    Rowan Williams former head of the Church of England says that islam is reviving British values. Prime Minister David Cameron says that muslims have made great contributions to his country.
    Submitted for your approval my list of muslim contributions to Britain.
    1. Female Genital Mutilation
    2. Sharia Courts
    3. Muslim gangs forcing British girls into prostitution.
    4. muslims calling for death to homosexuals.
    5. honor killings
    6. anti semitism
    7. Anjem Choudary
    8 . halal meat
    9. Sharia controlled neighborhoods
    This of course is only a small number of ways that muslims have contributed to the fabric of British society.Perhaps Rowan Williams and David Cameron could add to my list.

    • Jaladhi says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 1:48 pm

      There is no honor, value, morality in Islam!! It is just totally evil, evil, evil cult devised by an evil man(demon)!!

    • Leith Wood says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      Rowan Williams also said it was inevitable that England would be ruled by Sharia Law. That gem was followed by the fact that he did not know much about it! What stupidity from the church and Mr. Cameron. Please keep your mouths shut, until you do know something.

    • Leith Wood says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 5:19 pm

      Rowan Williams also said it was inevitable that England would be ruled by Sharia Law! That gem was followed by the fact that he did not know much about it. What stupidity from the Church and Mr. Cameron. A simple solution Mr. Williams and Mr. Cameron. Please keep your mouths shut, until you do know the truth.

  27. alyn21 says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 9:57 am

    Can any politician be more stupid then David Cameron?

    • Tradewinds says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 2:05 pm

      I don’t think so. He truly takes the camel.

    • Leith Wood says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm

      Obama is giving him a run for his money.

      • Clearsighted says

        Oct 13, 2014 at 4:39 pm

        No, Leith,

        Cameron is a non-Muslim ignorant about Islam.
        Obama is neither non-Muslim nor ignorant about Islam.

    • Banana Bender says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 7:43 pm

      We have one here in Oz – the Greens’ Christine Milne.

  28. Thomas says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 10:08 am

    This fool should be taken out back and smacked around. People like this are going to get us all killed because the people who know nothing about islam listen to him. Then they think ISLAM must mean peace because he said so. We either go to war now or later, there is no avoiding a war that ISLAM is already fighting.

    • Tradewinds says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      Cameron is responsible for the next mass-murdering Jihad in Londonistan. When that occurs he should be tarred and feathered and put on the next flight to Yemen.

  29. SpiritOf1683 says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 10:31 am

    “I’m not a scholar of any religion,” Cameron adds a moment later. You can say that again.

    He’s a brilliant scholar when it comes to cocking things up. He’s ‘an expert in failure’ to borrow a quote from Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho.

  30. David says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 11:00 am

    What is the cost to monitor the thousands of British Muslims the security forces are currently monitoring anyway? I’d like to see the yearly bill for it, that’s your “enormous contributions” wiped out right there. Cameron isn’t getting on public transport in London though, so he doesn’t have to worry about being blown up by the next Muslim Jihadi wannabe. Chauffeured limousines all the way for him, I don’t think his neighbour is a Muslim either.

  31. Wellington says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 12:20 pm

    I wonder what percentage of the British public knows that Cameron here is speaking pure BS. The greater the percentage the better of course.

    • Aardvark says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 5:05 pm

      I think the percentage is pretty high, and getting higher each day.

      • Wellington says

        Oct 13, 2014 at 5:36 pm

        Hope so.

  32. Jay Boo says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 12:27 pm

    “… politicians keep making fatuous statements like the one Cameron makes here, and policy errors keep multiplying.”
    ——————

    No matter how many pans of schmaltz Cameron fries up,
    his “fatuous statements” still come out dry and contrived.

  33. Beth says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Maybe Cameron is a closet muslim. With all of the information that is out there and looking at Cameron’s defiant defense of Islam…

    well, I believe it is a legitimant question. And if not – then who is paying him and how much? Because the words that are coming out of his mouth are blatant lies.

    • PRCS says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 12:52 pm

      Can’t know what he THINKS.

      His words and actions, however…

    • Mirren10 says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 5:06 pm

      ”Maybe Cameron is a closet muslim. With all of the information that is out there and looking at Cameron’s defiant defense of Islam … ”

      I think it’s a mistake to assume that creatures like camoron are ‘closet muslims’.

      I loathe mohammedanism, and its adherents, but must acknowledge they hold to what, in their evil minds, they believe to be the principles of their religion, although in all **decent** minds, these principles are unmitigated evil.

      Creatures like camoron, and all other political apologists for islam, have no principles whatsoever. All camoron is concerned with is sticking with what he thinks is the ‘strong horse’, that will, if he placates it enough, carry on voting for him, and give him a bit more power, and a longer session with his snout in the trough.

  34. Richie says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Sounds like he’s been taking advice from George Galloway

  35. CogitoErgoSum says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    Servility and obedience aren’t virtues but vices? Depends ….. What if the one I serve and obey has my full faith and confidence in his/her ability to make the proper and just decisions with regard to my welfare? Is it a vice to have faith in the one you love and wish to do all you can to make your loved one happy? The version of the story in the Quran (37:100-111) is very short and, yes, servility and obedience, are stressed. But I see that the Quran’s version makes no mention of love (and no mention is made of the name of Abraham’s son). However, the story in the Bible (Genesis 22:1-12 ) does mention that God knows Abraham loves his son (whose name is Isaac). The son (Isaac) not only submits to being bound by his father but was even willing to carry the wood for the burning of the sacrifice. The son obeyed his father, trusted and loved his father…..and the father loved the son. Do you see any connection between this story and another story about the sacrifice of Jesus for His Father? Is God merely a narcissicist or does God sometimes wish to confirm a person’s faith and love ….. and does God return love when it is shown? Do you see the connection between obedience, servility and love more clearly in the Quranic or the Biblical version? When I read the Bible I see that Love equates to Good but I find it more difficult to see the same equation in the Quran. I ask that you look at each version of the story more closely (including the parallel story involving Jesus) in the light of this equation.

  36. wildjew says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 2:00 pm

    These post-Churchill UK heads of state (of a declining nation) are buffoons who deserve nothing less than mockery and ridicule.

  37. Dave J says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    These national leaders who spout the “religion of peace” line (with no proof, except to the contrary) and tell us of their “great contributions” (to what – social unrest and overpopulation?) and their “charity” (to each other – I don’t see any Muslims risking their lives in the fight against Ebola in WA, for example) are able to do so because they live in protected bubbles with little risk of mobbing or beheading (yet).

    The only contributions they are interested in are votes and Saudi investments. They are also likely intimidated by the many threats of public violence for criticism of Islam, fear that they be blamed for “inciting riots” by their phobia of Islamophobia.

  38. Jerry says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 3:31 pm

    When you go to an “Indian” restaurant, examine the menu.
    If there is lamb, mutton or chicken curry and no beef curry,
    and wine and beer are are also on the menu, chances are
    that it may be all right.

    If there is beef curry on the menu and no alcoholic drinks,
    and there is a mention of the word “Halal” there is a good
    chance that some of the proceeds may go to fund Jihad and
    or the families of Jihad “Martyrs”.

    • Cicero says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 4:13 pm

      Thanks for the tip. Not that I frequent these ” Indian restaurants “. Even the Indian cuisine is subverted. By these sixth columnists.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 8:22 am

      I understand that Patak’s Curry Sauces are jihad-free.

      Owned and concocted by *non-Muslims* – namely, Hindu Indian-ancestry citizens of the UK.

      And very, very good.

      Long may Mr Patak’s pots boil and prosper.

    • Aardvark says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 11:52 am

      The spice everyone associates with curry is chilli pepper, and chillis are native to South America. Guess who brought them to Europe, and who then carried them to India?

      And no, it was NOT the mohammedans!

      The modern tomato, on the other hand, without which a pizza would just not be a real pizza, was more or less invented by the Italians.

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 7:00 pm

      The Hobson-Jobson has a capsule history of “curry”.

      Among the potpourri of historical details there, we learn that”

      “It is possible, however, that the kind of curry used by Europeans and Mahommedans is not of purely Indian origin, but has come down from the spiced cookery of medieval Europe and Western Asia. The medieval spiced dishes in question were even coloured like curry. Turmeric, indeed, called by Garcia de Orta, Indian saffron, was yet unknown in Europe, but it was represented by saffron and sandalwood. A notable incident occurs in the old English poem of King Richard, wherein the Lion-heart feasts on the head of a Saracen —

      “soden full hastily
      With powder and with spysory,
      And with saffron of good colour.”

      http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.0:1:705.hobson

  39. islamisdeath says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 4:11 pm

    David Cameron has nothing to do with being British.

    • Mirren10 says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 5:08 pm

      camoron has nothing to do with principles or decency.

      • islamisdeath says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 8:18 pm

        Agreed

  40. Western Canadian says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 10:45 pm

    For anyone who wants the kkk take on two polar opposite belief systems…..

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 13, 2014 at 8:25 am

      Where are these creeps *coming* from all of a sudden?

  41. alyn21 says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 11:45 pm

    It is really hard to believe that David Cameron is that stupid. Could he be a double agent secretly working undercover for Liberty GB??. He does seem determined to make that party look like a credible alternative. to the conservatives.

  42. North Dakota Oil says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 12:17 am

    Google it Cameron, it’s not that hard.

  43. Champ says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 3:20 am

    Wow the false obama narrative continues, and the sheeple just say “thank you great leaders since we are too lazy to think for ourselves” …

  44. Luciano says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 9:21 am

    As long as the West had well meaning idiots, like Cameron, in leadership….The West has no chance to combat Islamic Fundamentalism and Jihad!

  45. Sam says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 1:59 pm

    This Cameron IS an agent of the kufars. Behead him!

  46. Ralph says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    In a fit of rage, Obama snaps at U.S. military brass: “Don’t you dare try and paint all of Islam with the same brush.” Showing his Muslim stripes, Obama threw a hissy fit and stomped out of a Pentagon meeting about the bombing campaign against ISIS over remarks allegedly tying the Islamic State (ISIS) to Islam.

    Camp David. It was an informal briefing on the expanded bombing campaigns to take place in both Syria and Iraq. Halfway through the already very brief briefing, President Obama stood up clearly agitated, and walked out of the room.

    The casually dressed Obama returned to the briefing moments later with a senior adviser alongside him, though his mood continued to indicate he was still very upset.

    The senior adviser made a couple pointed remarks to the Pentagon representatives, reminding them the president had already had a very busy day, and then both she and the president once again left the room.

    Within seconds, Barack Obama returned again to the just concluded briefing, pointing at the still seated Pentagon staff and indicating how “inappropriate” it was to “try and paint all of Islam with the same brush.” The president repeated similar remarks, his mood going from agitation to outrage. His voice carried to several other West Wing offices.

    The senior adviser, who did not originally return with the president into the briefing, suddenly re-appeared alongside him, as well as the president’s personal aide. She was smiling, and telling everyone “we’re done here” which she repeated several times and then led the president back out into the hallway.

  47. Denis says

    Oct 13, 2014 at 5:41 pm

    Pride in British Muslims. For What? British Muslims have accomplished NOTHING anywhere, ever except join the other jihadist in Syria . Oh sure they may own Harrods thanks to middle east oil. Someone else created Harrods, A Muslim purchased a successful business with oil money And PM Cameron states Islam is the Religion of peace. What a disservice to the English ! Islam is the RELIGION of HATE and EVIL. Islam hates the Kaffir. Cameron (a non believer) is a kaffir. Islam hates Cameron (a non believer). This short syllogism explains how Muslims view Cameron. He is seen as rube ( a country bumpkin) and a shill to protect Islam in Great Briton .

  48. Uncle Vladdi says

    Oct 14, 2014 at 1:22 am

    It’s been HOW LONG SINCE 9/11 brought islam back to the world’s attention?!

    The Qur’an isn’t that long a book (it’s only 500 small pages) and one of the few lies that Moe DIDN’T tell in it, was when he said it’s contents were clear, easy to read and understand, and contained absolutely no metaphors.

    And even if one somehow couldn’t get ahold of a copy, there’s always the news media to give one a rough anecdotal picture of islam’s socio-economic results.

    So when retards like Camoron – whose job description is limited to defending their country’s citizens from attack – don’t even bother to read through it once, they are abdicating their positions of authority, and engaging in dereliction of duty, as well as being wilfully self-blinded accessories enabling the muslims crimes; they are traitors to rationality, civilization, and the people who hired (‘elected’) and pay them with their taxes. They should all be arrested, indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced to whatever punishments for high treason their countries allow.

  49. bc says

    Oct 14, 2014 at 3:25 am

    Cameron is such a fool it is hard to know whether to pity him or laugh at him, Assuming he really means the ignorant nonsense he spouts he is clearly sucking up to the Muslim community in the hope that he will get their vote in the upcoming elections.

  50. john van Vliet says

    Oct 14, 2014 at 6:56 am

    This Cameron sounds like he is intoxicated or plain stupid………..
    He starts ,,I am not an scholar on any religion” the he talks about islam …..
    What an idiot, the problems with muslims in Brattain and Europe are huge and are not an example of peace and good will, the live off the state, don’t work. don’t integrate and seeking control…..
    Before talking like a idiot he should read some before open his mouth, but as all political leaders they are just LIARS

  51. Rob says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 1:29 pm

    == He also several times praises, in this brief address, the “enormous contributions” that British Muslims make to Britain, but the only example he adduces is the marvelous “fire-starter” bowl of curry he recently enjoyed. ==

    Well, when Winston Churchill made it a priority during the Battle of Britain for the War Cabinet to allocate funds for the construction of the Regent’s Park Mosque, he pointed to the enormous contribution that Muslims in the British Army had made to the fight against Hitler. I dare say Cameron could have mentioned their successors in the modern British armed forces. And let’s not forget a certain Enoch Powell, who when he was Minister for Health begged Pakistan (including what is now Bangladesh) to send us its doctors as the NHS didn’t have enough trained ones of its own. So that would be another few hundred Muslims saving British lives then.

    Oh, and the “retards” like Uncle Vladdi might remind themselves of all the Muslims who were among the first responders on 9/11, and of the ones who lost their lives as a result. And BTW, I’ve never heard a Muslim referring to someone as a “retard”. Maybe “Vladdi” could learn something from them.

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