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Ex-counterterror official: “We don’t have enough FBI agents who understand Islam”

Oct 27, 2014 9:07 pm By Robert Spencer

Michael LeiterIn October 2011, the Obama Administration banned all mention of Islam and jihad in connection with terrorism from counterterror training, for the FBI as well as other agencies. Three years later, the former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center laments that we don’t have enough FBI agents who understand Islam.

But that is what the Obama Administration wanted. They wanted an FBI full of agents who didn’t know anything about Islam, because they wanted to pretend that Islam had no connection with terrorism. Counter-terror materials were scrubbed of all mention of Islam and jihad, and FBI trainers (including me) who spoke about the motives and goals of the jihadists were dismissed. And now Leiter wonders why agents don’t know anything about Islam.

Leiter’s solution? More Muslim agents. And no doubt when they are hired, there will be no serious attempt to determine whether these agents have any sympathies for or ties to the global jihad. The vetting agents won’t know how to make such determinations, and to make too thorough an investigation would be “Islamophobic.”

“Former Counterterror Official: ‘We Don’t Have Enough Muslim FBI Agents,'” by Melanie Hunter, CNS News, October 27, 2014 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):

(CNSNews.com) – Former Director of the National Counterterrorism Center Michael Leiter told NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday that the FBI does not have enough Muslim agents or agents who understand Islam.

“We don’t have enough Muslim FBI agents. We don’t have enough FBI agents who understand Islam, and we don’t have enough people in government who are doing counterterrorism, who understand 15-to-29-year olds. They’re disengaged, and this is also the group which is likely to be most violent. It can’t just be Nancy Reagan with, ‘Say no to drugs.’ You have to do engagement with that demographic,” said Leiter.

Leiter acknowledged that the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is using social media more so than al Qaeda did. He said ISIS tries to recruit “Jihadi Cool,” a new form of militant Jihadism designed to appeal to young people as something fashionable or cool….

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  1. jihad3tracker says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Isn’t there a kiddie fable equivalent to this — titled “We don’t have enough foxes who are guarding the henhouse” ???

    • terry says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 5:20 am

      Do not worry! The weasels and the raccoons and all the other predators will help keep the hen house safe so they can gobble up eggs and cull the birds!
      ” There is a God in heaven that seeth all things whatsoever men do!”

    • Megakovalan says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 8:07 am

      Exactly

  2. butterfly says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    “We Don’t Have Enough Muslim FBI Agents.”

    First thing I wondered, how many do we have now? Regardless the number, that’s probably too many, unless there’s been a breakthrough in determining who is a True Believer and who is not.

    • Shane says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 9:27 am

      This just shows how dangerous Obama’s political correctness is. Read Robert Spencer’s books on Islam and Muhammad FBI agents. Perhaps we should start a new charity to provide our counter-terrorism agents with info about Islam and Jihad.

      • carpediadem says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:09 am

        They have Google – that’s a good start!!

        • Rob Porter says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 9:43 pm

          They have Jihad Watch and that’s an even better start.

  3. dumbledoresarmy says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    This is like someone saying, back in the day, during WWII, “we don’t have enough Nazis in the FBI (or, CIA)” or saying, in the Cold War, “we don’t have enough communist party members in the FBI (or CIA)”.

  4. Wolfgang says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    The movie dumb and dumber says it all………..these guys have no clue…..frankly DHS and the Feds deserve to be kicked from pillar to post , more Muslim agents ? , when will these idiots learn ?

    Holder and others should be fired and do time in the can…..years ago the FBI was actively stopping decent Agents from reporting homosexual activity within the ranks to their superiors, I lost confidence in them as a law enforcement body, they won’t uphold the founding fathers document, millions won’t trust them now , too late, you bozos !

    They along with those clowns in the DHS ARE the problem.

    • ECAW says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:04 am

      What’s the problem with homosexuality within the ranks of the FBI?

      • St. Michael Defend Us says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 2:37 pm

        I thought it was, that years ago, there were fears that if gays worked in government agencies, they would be more likely to succumb to blackmail if placed in a compromising position. And that government secrets and operations would be subject to blackmail pay-offs.
        That was, of course, before coming out was so accepted, and before pre-and extra-marital sex were so accepted amongst all parties. I’m not sure what would be such a secret now.

        • ECAW says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm

          Thanks. That makes sense.

        • Wolfgang says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 6:56 pm

          @St. Michael Defend Us

          It is still the same, my wife worked in LE for a long time, doing highest possible security clearances , same rule applies, if your Homosexual and your sent to some crap hole embassy in Iraq, Turkey , Saudi Arabia, etc , you won’t cleared because its a blackmail issue, the Turkish secret service for example vet ALL incoming foreign Embassy security attaches, its their job to find out EVERYTHING about you , any weakness such as alcohol, drugs, homosexuality will be ruthlessly used against a Western government.

          They also view homosexuality with extreme disdain……that is obvious.

      • Wolfgang says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 6:45 pm

        @ECAW

        LOL ……………….you serious ? try that shit down past the Mason Dixon line…….far as i know in my bible, it says to love the man [ or woman ] but HATE the sin! ain’t toooo hard to figure out is it ?, before ya want to say anything , its homosexuality , period ! is not “Gay “, my missus middle name is Gay, because of PC , she can’t even use or say her middle name without snide remarks.

        Like in the Military ……front line combat units DO not welcome homosexuals with open arms , neither should the Feds or any other LE body.

        What you do in private is your affair, but no one will shove their PC agenda down my way .Period.Many, Many people in the south feel exactly the same way.

        That is a whole different issue……so I will eave it at that, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of country boys feel the same as I do.

        I HATE the PC bullshit. I Call it like it is I say …….black and white that’s me.

        • ECAW says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 5:37 am

          Wolfgang – Sorry to hear you’re still operating in black and white. Most of us have moved on to colour.

          As far as what your bible says, I admire Jesus but why anyone would give any credence to the contradictory ramblings of the Old Testament I cannot fathom. If your god thinks homosexuality is an abomination it was pretty stupid of him to include it in the design plan wasn’t it?

  5. Wolfgang says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm

    @jihad3tracker

    These fools wont last long in GA……..y’all hear me now ?

    • Roderick MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:39 am

      Oh, I hear you Wolf… LOUD & CLEAR!

      From the FL/GA line, MAC

      • jihad3tracker says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 10:12 am

        Hello Wolfgang and Roderick ! !

        When CAIR sissys Ibe Hooper and his Allah-peddling pals [ running mouths but no tickets to Syria ] come down from Wash DC to RRA — Retro Redneck Alabama — they’ve got trouble. $$ suits rip real easy on barb wire.

        Excuse me for a few hours, please; I need to see how the mash is cooking up. My best roadhouse customer wants a few gallons by Friday 5 p.m., and the last time I was late his joint got the daylights beaten out of it.

        • Roderick MacUalraig says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 10:20 am

          HaHA! OO-RAH J3T!!

          Handle your business, efficiently, like Sergeant At Arms Vickers… with extreme prejudice.

      • Wolfgang says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 6:29 pm

        @Roderick MacUalraig @ jihad3tracker @

        must teach ’em Muslims the joys of ” noodlin ” southern style ! reckon they could handle it ?

        me I’m just a simple country boy………can’t stand the Feds though…….never could.

  6. Wellington says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    Wo, wo, wo! There’s a HUGE difference between “We don’t have enough Muslim FBI agents” and “We don’t have enough FBI agents who understand Islam….” It’s a chasm of a difference. Couldn’t be any bigger.

    This Leiter guy has either been misquoted or, if not misquoted, is a monumental fool.

    For Christ’s sake, it’s now over thirteen years since 9/11 and we have a complete doofus as POTUS (hey, thanks to all you rubes who voted for this nothing, especially those of you who voted for him twice) and an FBI (and other intelligence agencies) which has been denied knowledge which is absolutely essential in dealing with the wretched religion which is Islam.

    I would further comment to this effect and it is this: If you’re an FBI agent and you have actually followed the indefensible guidelines of the Obama Administration on the matter of Islam, jihad, et al., then WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU? Are you such a company man (woman) that things like job security and following orders from above have become more important than defending your country and doing the right thing? Shame on everyone of you who have done this. Deep, profound, everlasting shame.

    • Saleem Smith says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 10:47 pm

      Hello Wells,

      Islam is more than just a “wretched religion.”

      Islam is by far the most dangerous and harmful major religion ever conceived by man. Speaking as an ex-Muslim I would rather kill myself than continue on in Islam.

      Happy Halloween 🙂

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:15 am

      Comparative response of FBI With Islam and extreme right
      Ruby Ridge
      http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/incident-at-ruby-ridge

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      “This Leiter guy has either been misquoted…”

      Given what we’ve seen of PC MC throughout the years, it is utterly unsurprising he would say that. It has become set in stone that the solution to the Islam problem (that is not directly avowed) is through Moderate Muslims, who of course must abound all around us. While the frank PC MC idiots consider the number of good (i.e., Moderate Muslims) to be in the majority (if not vast majority), the asymptotics (i.e., Counter-Jihadists who still retain PC MC reflexes in their minds) who personally know nice friendly Muslims (such as “Paul”who runs the curry house on Spittal Hill in Sheffield, who are Muslims in name only, nice people who cooked great curries, fantastic Shami Kebabs!) and use that personal anecdotal evidence to reinforce the asymptotic link text assumption that it is a “fact” that “[t]here are people out there who identify as Muslims who wish the west no harm” — are only different in degree from the PC MCs, not in kind.

  7. Marblenecltr says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    To start with, hire/contract Theo and Walid Shoebat and Raymond Ibrahim as instructors and advisors. Jihad is the sixth pillar of Islam, Muslims are commanded to fight for it, for sharia, “with their persons and their goods.” Islam has a greater grip on one than followers of an economic philosophy or political theory, for the latter just deal with intellect or physical desires and personality traits. Islam has one’s soul and spirit. Would Kant or Marx or Stalin or Hitler blow themselves up for philosophy, physical desires, or the wish to order others around and control the world?

  8. Saleem Smith says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:32 pm

    “In October 2011, the Obama Administration banned all mention of Islam and jihad in connection with terrorism from counterterror training…”

    The Obama Administration has essentially LEGALLY MANDATED that law enforcement officials must not criticize Islamic theology or the psychotic behavior of Muhammad “the perfect and model man of Islam.”

    We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty know that Islam is the most perfect and evil religion of peace.

    Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 9, Book 84, No. 57:

    Narrated Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa (unbelievers) were brought to Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire)’. I would have killed them according to the statement of Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.’”

    Qur’an 033:021
    There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always.

    Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

    “One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…

    The statement continues,

    Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified. “

    • Wellington says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 10:41 pm

      I wish you, Saleem, were advising the FBI (or at least providing an alternative opinion to the nonsense the FBI has to imbibe at present). I would feel better about things were this the case. I’m sure many others would as well.

      Hope you are doing well, my friend, in this extra silly age we live in.

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:49 am

      @Saleem

      The Palm tree’s also parted while Mo was defecating in the Wadi ….then even the ground swallowed his turds……then the tree’s returned to their original position ……how dare you be a ex Muslim !

      tisk tisk tisk……

      ” The two trees which came together to conceal the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) when he was answering the call of nature

      This was recorded in the Sahih report narrated by Imam Muslim, may Allah have mercy on him, from Jabir (may Allah be pleased with him): “… We stopped in a fragrant valley, and the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) wanted to answer the call of nature. I followed him, bringing a bottle of water, but he could not find anywhere where he could conceal himself. There were two trees at the edge of the valley, so the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) went to one of them, took hold of one of its branches, and said: ‘Follow me, by the permission of Allah.’ So it followed him like a camel being led by a rope, until he came to the other tree. He took one of the other tree’s branches and said: ‘Follow me, by the permission of Allah.’ So it followed him until he reached the halfway point between them, then he put them together and said: ‘Stay together and cover me, by the permission of Allah.’ So they stayed together.” Jabir said: “I kept away, for fear that the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) might feel my presence and move even further away. So I sat down, thinking to myself, and when I turned around, I saw the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) coming towards me, and the two trees had separated and taken up their former positions.” (Sahih Muslim, 5328)

      What can I say ? one’s turds get swallowed by tree’s ?

      • Ralph says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:48 am

        Genesis 16: 7 The angel of the Lord found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur. 8 And he said, “Hagar, slave of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?”

        “I’m running away from my mistress Sarai,” she answered.

        9 Then the angel of the Lord told her, “Go back to your mistress and submit to her.” 10 The angel added, “I will increase your descendants so much that they will be too numerous to count.”

        11 The angel of the Lord also said to her:

        “You are now pregnant
        and you will give birth to a son.
        You shall name him Ishmael,[a]
        for the Lord has heard of your misery.
        12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
        his hand will be against everyone
        and everyone’s hand against him,
        and he will live in hostility
        toward[b] all his brothers.”

        You See; God Gave These Muslim’s A Destiny and They Follow It To A TEE…

        • Kepha says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 9:13 pm

          I remember reading Luther’s lectures on Genesis. Commenting on Gn 16:13, where Hagar says “Have I also looked after him that seeth me?”, Luther comments that he considers Hagar among the elect. I don’t know about Ishmael, but it seems that Hagar learned some true piety from her master and mistress.

      • Kepha says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 9:10 pm

        Hmm. Fertilizing trees? Mo actually did something useful!

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:45 am

      I know people thank-you often, but I echo many others when I say that your contributions are priceless.

      The apostates worldwide who’ve crossed the barrier into human freedom are so valuable.

      Stay vigilant Smitty, the CJ needs you… free humans need you.

      RKM

  9. Peter says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    If Obama’s Federal Bureau of Incompetence had had agents who understood Islam, then the Boston Marathon Bombings would not have occurred. The infiltrated and coopted federal government is responsible for that.

    • Beagle says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:22 am

      Worse than that. To prevent the Boston Marathon bombings the FBI only needed Special Agent Inbox, to look for the letters “FSB”.

      Remember when the BPD set up a cordon and went house-to-house taking everyone out at gunpoint, but ‘Joker’ was found one block outside by the boat owner?

      What happens when IS sends an A-Team? (Time to arm up folks.)

      You asked for miracles, Theo? I give you the FBI!
      — Hans Gruber

      Seriously, hire Spencer, Wood, Warner, Smith, IQ al-Rasooli, Ali Sina, Bostom, etc., etc., or me for that matter. Islamic jihad is not that complicated unless one is intentionally stupid, as the FBI is thanks to PC willful blindness.

      Lesson One: Sura Number Nine. Number Nine. Number Nine. Number Nine…

    • Michael Copeland says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 6:34 am

      The FBI never passed on to Boston police the warnings they had received from Saudi Arabia and Russia concerning Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
      Would they be any more likely to do so with muslims amongst them?
      http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/5778-a-triple-unsolved-murder-unconnected-dots

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 8:27 am

      Yes.

      Spencer should be training the men and women protecting America, protecting natural human rights.

      The PCMC feds have the blood of innocents on their hands!

  10. Jay Boo says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:17 am

    In contrast
    FBI with extreme right

    at Ruby Ridge
    http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/incident-at-ruby-ridge

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:22 am

      Extra-judicial assassination by the FBI

  11. Bender says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:18 am

    1941. We don’t have enough Nazi agents in the FBI. Let’s hire some more…

  12. JIMJFOX says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:20 am

    If you need to understand Islam the LAST person to ask is a muslim…

    • Champ says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:29 am

      Bravo, JIM!

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:54 am

      Indeed!

      Unless you ask Mo, the Pedophile Prophet himself, or maybe Anjem…

      Honest Muslims don’t obfuscate, they’ll tell you they intend to ENSLAVE MANKIND.

    • Rezali Mehil says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 11:06 am

      Hello Jim,

      No…if you want to understand Islam…the 1st person to ask is a muslim.

      It often amuses me that people like DDA , Graven, Mirren and the hangers on Champ and Jen categorise us a simpletons …like monads who have a blank straight forward view and can be swatted away …no bother.

      Then they compare us to themselves…so sophisticated, suave, blonde haired, blue eyed technologically savvy… who can achieve anything.

      Any yet …and yet the lengths they go to …the web sites they build, the *on-going* difficulty they have with attempting to define Islam ….well it just leaves them in a heap.

      The sophistication dwindles, the make up comes off …and they start with the insults heaped upon Allah SWT, and Muhammad SAW.

      When that does not work …it is down to threats… the destruction of Mecca (ask Don and Graven) and the insults,and foul language increasing dramatically.

      And well in the end …it starts to sound just like …well things that a deranged homo sapien may say. …but isn’t that what you say about us?..
      a “tada” moment ..full circle

      Hmmmmm!!! lead me to think that actually you are not so different from us anyway. ….so is there a need for the FBI to just look at muslims …what about looking out for the dangerous kuffara too?

      More Later …

      Rezali

      • duh_swami says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:38 am

        Ask a Muslim…a game show…Please explain Gabriel to me…Who was Gabriel really? Please provide proof of Gabriel’s existence, outside of scripture. Please explain why Allah sent Gabriel, an incoherent angel, rather than the ‘god’ Mercury who is the actual ‘Messenger of the gods’…Thanks.

      • ECAW says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 12:11 pm

        Rezali – I will gladly ask a Muslim about Islam. My understanding is that Mohammed’s instructions to convert or subjugate the kuffar were not limited to the wars he happened to be engaged in at the time but were meant for all places and all times. Not only that but that any follower of Mohammed has to understand it that way too or go against all orthodox tradition.

        If that is correct then I have to regard all Muslims as potential enemies, with heavy stress on “potential”. I would be grateful for your position on this since so much hangs on it.

      • Ralph says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 12:18 pm

        http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

      • islamisdeath says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 3:33 pm

        Rezali
        Here is the difference in Christian influenced western civilization and islam: We are not religiously required to rape, murder, torture and enslave anyone who does not believe as we do. You however are. Christians are not given card blanche to lie like rugs to promote our religion. You are. Christians are not running around beheading old women in their gardens. You are. Western countries offer all religions freedom to practice their religion. Most muslim countries do not. The ones that allow Christians and other religions to practice their religion persecute the bejeezus out of them.

        As all muslims you try in your intrinsically deceitful way to make it appear that this is about race. You mention blue eyed, blonde sophistication. You will stop at nothing and no cruelty or deceitful trick is too low in your quest for domination.

        God sees you, you minion of satan and he will deliver retribution. God, not one of us. There is no goodness at all in islam. None. Just hate, torture, enslavement, abuse of animals, sadism, pedophilia, and misogyny. Even the food you eat is of animals who have died slow painful and terrified deaths strangling on their own blood as they try to cry out. My God your cruelty knows no end! You are demons from the hell your master resides over.

      • PRCS says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:49 pm

        “No…if you want to understand Islam…the 1st person to ask is a muslim.”

        That is true.

        So long as one asks them specific questions about specific passages from Qur’an.

        After all, that IS their ‘Bible”, and they should be able provide specific answers.

        Here’s a specific question:

        Explain Qur’an 5:27 through 5:33; in particular–why is 5:32 directed specifically at Jews and where on the planet are the judicial barbarities of 5:33 morally acceptable to them?

      • Jen says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 1:58 am

        This Muslim woman is so funny. These posts are good though. I like Muslims to put their thoughts on display. They can’t acknowledge the problems with their “religion” even when it is plain or all to see; and they don’t believe that the rest of the world has the right to protect itself from the threat it poses. These people are morally bankrupt. You surely must have to be in order to submit yourself to Islam. Anyone who thinks Muhammad is a prophet from God, despite his ghastly character is surely a simpleton. It’s not only an insult, it’s just the truth.

      • Jen says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 5:43 am

        I just read Rezali’s post properly after only skim reading it the first time.

        Now look at this Muslim woman.

        For anyone who reads the comment of this Muslima over a period of time, you will come to understand her mindset and realise that the way she thinks is contrary to the values of the place she is living in (the UK); despite the fact that presumably, she has not broken any laws. Her attitude however is distasteful and would be completely unacceptable to any English person who was capable of peering into her mind the way readers of JW have been able to, thanks to her comments.

        I presume the comment about “swatting” away is in reference to our idea that sting operations should be carried out in order to uncover *which* Muslims are harbouring vicious intentions to physically attack non-Muslims (the term “fly paper” was used, hence “swatting” like a fly).

        Now why would somebody like Rezali, a moderate Muslim; have a problem with this? Surely, the outcome of a sting operation is that genuinely dangerous people are caught *before* they have an opportunity to physically harm non-Muslims. This could only be a good thing, surely; if their community has nothing to hide.

        So why, if there *aren’t* potential jihadists among the Muslim community, do Muslims seem to dislike this idea of Western police laying “bait” to catch any of them out? Surely if they are all honest, they wouldn’t take the bait in the first place and nobody would be prosecuted.

        Rezali has also said that “the make up comes off” and that we (the non-Muslims) start to insult Muhammad and Allah.

        She’s saying this as though these people commenting here were “wearing” make-up in the first place. Even when, nobody here has even tried to *hide* their disgust in Islam’s teachings. There is no make-up; it is pure disdain, expressed openly and honestly.

        Any decent person would criticise Muhammad given that he was a rapist, pedophile, mass murderer and thief and so forth. Islam and by extension Muslims, however, regard Muhammad as the ‘perfect man’ and worthy of being emulated. This is what their religion teaches.

        Now who is in the right here? This Muslima, acting as though Muhammad’s revolting behaviour is above criticism, or the decent people commenting on here and trying to raise awareness about the threat that Islam poses on all countries; because by its nature, the religion is based on violence (read their religious books for yourself if you’re new to JW and haven’t yet) and the result is that millions throughout history have been slaughtered, and in the present day, thousands more – and ongoing.

        The reality is that we *are* different, despite what Rezali says, otherwise we wouldn’t be trying to draw attention to Islam and its victims in the first place. Rezali on the other hand, has not come on this website and said she is disgusted by any of what Islam teaches. She is interested only, in defending Islam- even when it’s killing people.

        Because what Islam teaches is so indefensible, Rezali, along with other Muslims resort to playing the victim as though they’re the ones being persecuted or alternatively claiming we are all “just as bad” as they are. This might take the form of trying to smear other religions like Christianity and Judaism, even though its obvious that neither of them have a global problem with their adherents killing others who disagree with them about religion.

        More later………

        • ECAW says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 5:48 am

          Very well put Jen.

        • Jen says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 5:55 am

          And despite what Rezali has said, we haven’t had an ongoing difficulty in defining Islam.

          It’s just that non-Muslims are bound by a higher standard of morality and we believe in fundamental human rights, and in ridding the threat of Islam from our societies, we are concerned about hurting the feelings of Muslims who (though there is no way of knowing which) are actually harmless people.

          Nobody with any sense is having problems “defining” Islam. We know, based on the string of cases already, that jihadists emerge, even from “moderate” families. Hence, they are all a potential threat to public safety. Even the previously nominal Muslims who have a sudden change of heart and turn “devout” (which results in them following exactly what Islam teaches, which is to kill non-Muslims).

        • Wellington says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 4:53 pm

          Superbly written and reasoned, Jen. I predict that Rezali will either 1) not respond to this post of yours at all; or 2) if she does respond, it will be just more Muslim BS from her and her thought patterns will demonstrate how inferior a thinker she is to you.

  13. Beagle says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:31 am

    Lesson Two, Root Causes: 1) western universities

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15868#.VE8pm_nF98E

  14. Civilus Defendus says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:50 am

    I had a DC “intel analyst” approach me waving a handful of papers–copies of my blog posts–“how do you knooow this stuff?” he asks. Over the next three hours I told him that I spent all my spare time reading islamic doctrine, listening to translations from Arabic or learning from those who actually know islamic doctrine, sharia, jihad, history, language, culture, as apposed to the faux-experts in positions of authority and leadership.

    I am glad to have had that conversation, but I would feel much better had the guy–and ALL his peers–actually done his own sleuthing and not rely on what surely must be obvious obfuscation at best, lies at worst… or here’s a concept THE WORKINGS OF OUR ENEMY. Please, America, please World, pull out of this nose dive of intellectual and moral blindness and see reality clearly or chaos and slaughter will ensue. Oh, that is yet MORE chaos and slaughter.

  15. Max Publius says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 2:49 am

    How do they determine who is Muslim? What if an agent just says he’s Muslim today? Do cultural Muslims who don’t know anything about Islam get hired, but people with deep knowledge like Robert Spencer get shown the door? Is there a test?

    Imagine if the FBI was looking for more Christian agents…

    This FBI clown is a poster boy for stupid policies which are in fact bigoted and evil.

  16. pdxnag says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 3:02 am

    Just look at the Afghanistan/Afghanistahn example. Your Muslim allies within are like highly volatile nitro. Never a true ally but always ready to blow up, or inside the US just sue sue sue during a mostly pre-violent stage of conquest. All interpretation of Islam here must be interpreted and filtered by the enemy itself.

  17. Jay P says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 6:49 am

    Islam isn’t hard to understand. If Mo did it or said it was good to do then it is considered good in Islam.
    So taking slaves is good, wiping your butt with your right hand is bad, beheading kafirs good, eating with your left hand bad and so on.

  18. ECAW says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 7:12 am

    Perhaps this is the grandson of Felix Leiter, James Bond’s buddy. How things have changed (and not for the better).

  19. jewdog says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 7:43 am

    If this guy knew more about Islam he would not want more Muslim agents, so he proves his own point.

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 8:16 am

      Indeed. Just another PCMC talking head from the government. The future leaders of men and women who believe in natural human rights will, most likely, not come from within Western governments.

      I’ve been in government since I was eighteen. I’m in my forties. The places you’d suspect there would be the most insight, instinct, wisdom, knowledge, and manly aggression… and it’s absent.

      These traits, in fact, are unwelcome.

  20. Judi says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 am

    What part don’t they understand? Islam is the most violent, barbaric “religion” on the planet. That’s all they need to know.

    • R. K. MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 8:18 am

      PCMC.

      And lack of bollocks.

  21. Charles Martel says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 8:22 am

    The entire article is summed up by the first sentence. So why did NerO order this? Why didn’t someone in Congress oppose it? Why didn’t the MSM pick up on it?
    It’s not that many of us aren’t aware of this disgraceful behavior by our “leaders” but that it continues!

  22. Curious Georgette says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:04 am

    @CreepingSharia

    The food cart story reminded me of when they tried to attack Golda Meirs plane…and FAILED! But what do I know, I’m just a girl.

    • Curious Georgette says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 8:28 pm

      Mr. Robert Spencer, Thank you for educating me through the years, much appreciated. See something say something, and I got the feeling yesterday, you listened to me. Thank you again.

  23. Mike Murphy says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:37 am

    Maybe we should not jump on Leiter too hard. He seems like an honest messenger, with an important message. He’s basically saying The FBI does not understand Islam. Which seems to be true of most Americans. So,
    Leiter is giving us a heads-up warning/recommendation: That we Americans should not shoot the messenger. And that we Americans need to do our homework about Islam, which is basically a jihad-based, fear-based, & shame-based ideology. So, our best response is: Don’t shoot the messenger. Study the pro’s & con’s of Islam. And, in my view, there is not much to recommend it. It is a hazard to all, Muslims & non-Muslims. We all need to do our homework. And then not just take a stand against what we oppose. But also take a stand for what we support.

    • Roderick MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 10:47 am

      Is your name really Mike Murphy?

      At any rate, he’s just another PCMC serf.

      At this point, there’s no excuse to not be on the side of human liberty.

      The history, the evidence is plentiful… so plentiful that moron blue shirts like me can figure it out.

      If your name really isn’t Mike Murphy, don’t use it in this forum.

  24. DiMu says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:38 am

    It’s difficult to tell the difference between an angry worker and a terrorist when you’re being beheaded.

  25. Jack says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 10:25 am

    The only thing the FBI needs to know about Islam is that the JustUs Department and the White House demand full submission to it.

  26. Don McKellar says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 10:51 am

    You will notice that he is the FORMER Director of the National Counterterrorism Center. What does the current director think of this assessment?

    Is that the sound of crickets?

  27. carpediadem says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:07 am

    What, even if they weren’t trained, they can’t look up a Koran online?

    How dumb are these people and why should anyone trust them?

  28. mortimer says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:13 am

    You don’t hire card-carrying communists to hunt communists! You don’t hire active Nazis to hunt Nazi killers!

    You don’t hire jihadists to hunt jihadists!

    EX-JIHADISTS and former Muslims understand from the inside the psychopathy of this misogynistic, supremacist DEATH CULT.

  29. mortimer says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:25 am

    I’m betting many FBI agents secretly read Robert Spencer’s books.

  30. John Rowe says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:35 am

    The FBI of yester year would have a 2nd FBI implementing Americanism and eventually arresting Communist in government, its not like you don’t have evidence on Holder, the President, Jarrett, and the other Commies.

    What a weak FBI department head, maybe hes Common Purpose fascist trained too!

    JOHN ROWE USMC

  31. objective observer says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 12:19 pm

    This is a very interesting and perhaps the most important point to reflect on. Any true understanding of islam requires a psychological tool-box. Without a historical and psychological awamination of what is called islam, there can never be any understanding of what it truly is, it’s origins and projected ends. Only experts of the highest order are capable of this, as they can be most objective and also have the ability to assimilate and work with the very difficult truths concerning this perhaps ulitmate problem. Were the FBI to really be interested in understanding what is happening and what islam truly s, then they require the services of these few high-level thinkers who know. It’s the only way.

  32. Dave J says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    @ Wellington.

    Thanks for pointing out the critical difference between agents who understand Islam and hiring Muslim agents. The last is a poor (and dangerous) substitute for the first.

    Islam is not difficult to understand. Read the book, observe the actions and statements all around you. Only a PC prohibition from the highest level prevents clear thinking on this subject.

  33. a concerned westerner says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 pm

    please stop censoring intelligent posts. who’s side are you on anyway?

  34. Custos Custodum says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 2:05 pm

    In “sophisticated” circles along the coast, it is considered exceedingly gauche to suggest that senior politicians are simply taking BRIBES.

    Everyone knows and expects politicians to may get massive political donations, have kids mysteriously admitted to Ivy League schools and then shooed into highly paid positions with government contractors at 23. Everyone expects retired politicians to take lucrative “consulting” posts helping shady clients get what they want in Washington. But conventional opinion insists they wouldn’t take outright BRIBES.

    Yet history shows that cash bribery and ongoing “employment” with America’s enemies have been a pattern among senior officials and politicians. A particularly noxious phenomenon is “cluster recruitment” – a senior official e.g. with a section of the FBI is recruited by Saudi or Muslim Brotherhood interests. She/he then points her new bosses to other likely recruits in the same section, and creates a CLIMATE where only paid foreign agents advance.

    In federal and state agencies, innocuous-seeming little phrases and “shibboleths” are disseminated and used to sift “flexible” staff from their stick-in-the-mud colleagues. Within weeks, a climate is in place where those not actively “with the program” are forced out through a serious of innocent-seeming actions coordinated among the recruited foreign agents and their (more numerous) fellow travelers in the federal organization.

  35. Sam says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    Obama, by keeping his citizens ignorant of dangers of Islam, is a traitor. How can we be so tolerant of Islam and his followers while they are shouting “death to America” all over and are actually cutting our throats. We then tip toe to “protect” muslims so their feelings are not hurt. This is f**** sick. What is wrong with America?

  36. johnrowe1 says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 3:05 pm

    Why FBI not know this ? Why the Jihads ?
    Why local terrorism ? Why a Caliphate ?
    Why no bills flow in government? Why Political Correctness ?
    Why in America do we even have thus crap…

    Send this to FBI, see if they know this!

    Why Jihads, from Caliphate, and why terrorist help them?
    only thing in government working is House of Rep trying to
    stop Obama with power of the purse, which they must do…
    unless you want to be a communist. Putin says America is now
    communist!

    Here ya go…

    Sykes–Picot Agreement of 1916 by France, UK, secretly with
    Russia. It set the state to stop the Battles of ottoman
    empire and Marine Leather necks (leather prevented head
    chopping), stopped their Barbary pirate raids of slavery &
    death.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

    Problem – setup Palestine & Land for Jerusalem & agreements.
    The agreement is seen by many as a turning point in
    Western–Arab relations. It negated the promises made to
    Arabs through Colonel T. E. Lawrence for a national Arab
    homeland in the area of Greater Syria, in exchange for their
    siding with British forces against the Ottoman Empire.

    Agreement above and this set up the terrorist issues today.
    That is why (particularly) there is a fight over crap land in
    Israel. This is too long to list here, but in 1970’s an
    agreement with Al-Qaeda to take-over Syria failed and the
    land (half of Iraq) illegally promised for ISLAMIC state was
    not given, led to Osama Bin Laden fatwa and caliphate #5 on
    America & 911 along with other issues. Yep, Arabs where behind
    it and the lawsuit is still pending today for victims.

    To continue Bin Laden Caliphate… revenge for being in Gitmo
    by Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and to get that Iraq land promised and
    never given in 1970’s, look at what land was seized. Do you
    think that was an accident to take-over Iraq land ?

    The Islamic State (ISIS) claims one of the goals of its
    insurgency is to reverse the effects of the Sykes–Picot
    Agreement. This is not the first border we will break, we
    will break other borders,” a jihadist from the ISIS warned in
    the video called End of Sykes-Picot. Islamic State’s
    leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in a July 2014 speech at the
    Great Mosque of al-Nuri in Mosul vowed that “this blessed
    advance will not stop until we hit the last nail in the coffin
    of the Sykes–Picot conspiracy”. Hey, I Believe Him, so should
    you. So our Military is at Parade rest while and Army builds…
    as Payback he blew up Jonah’s Mosque (In belly of the fish).

    As a novelty ISIS has decided to take a run at world dominance,
    by tracing the Ottoman Empire route to Europe where America is
    at the end of the road, by way of India or Pakistan (easy
    take-over) for Nuclear armament as is suspected, as is easy to
    send across the pond to America. Do you see they are there
    right now ? … probably not, but hope our Military knows this
    stuff!

    This is actually a bigger mess than Iraq and Syria as ISIL
    mixed in here gives rise to nuke ownership when gov take-overs
    are done. Pakistan has about 200 religious groups and would be
    an easy take-over.

    You can search and find much on this but no one wants to talk
    about the nuke issue and ISIL. Hey DOD, are you listening …?

    https://www.strategypage.com/qnd/india/20140918.aspx
    http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/pakistani-terror-group-swears-allegiance-to-isis/
    http://centralasiaonline.com/en_GB/articles/caii/features/pakistan/main/2014/09/05/feature-01
    https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/pakistani-fighters-joining-the-war-in-syria
    http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/special-to-the-china-post/2014/07/05/411616/What-ISIL.htm

    Timing – When America now gets a USURPER President with Mixed
    Loyalties not of Americanism but of Muslimism via transporting a new Party
    of Loyalties with the Democrat party, where the left lean is
    with Obama in the ideology of UN sustained development Agenda 21
    (renamed for deceptive use like Green Growth in California)
    exercising fear of the Planet imploding

    http://www.oecd.org/greengrowth/oecdworkongreengrowth.htm

    and Immigration of Muslims timed with this, is super suspect of
    communist take-over or even worse when considered with actions
    and intent of ISIS, loading up America with Muslim immigrants
    to protect them, it would lead one to believe there is about
    20 things trying to kill us and America. Putting Muslim Brotherhood in government is like giving jail keys to inmates.

    UN now wants support to control Governments thus the Elite are
    trying to position for what, I consider something we don’t want
    and a need to battle to prevent it at all cost, and someone
    should pop Clinton & Gore in noise for starting this crap.

    The Communist are practiced at take-over as for example the
    Common Purpose fascist of UK is embedded into UK socialism and
    many pre government military people have fought it longer than
    the US.

    Here is your Brit’s to train you on Common Purpose.
    It is said in Britain that lie’s become the truth, and truth
    become the lie’s. People get conditioned like zombie’s. Now
    Obama actions will make more sense.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hk1VZR4p1U
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRm9GUtkXQg#t=4351

    The Communist infiltration has tricked down to Corporate levels
    and state, county, city levels is some places, thus put on your
    boxing gloves. Most people do not understand they will rewrite
    your history to their agenda, its like a cultural genocide.
    Like Colorado, where no old History of America was no longer
    in classroom instruction, where students marched and Bill
    Gates another lefty idiot with Common Core in schools a Demos
    think tank creation affiliated with Common Purpose and
    implemented by Obama.

    As far as I am concerned, the Democratic party is now communist
    thus everyone whom is a real American should vote Republican.
    Most of us 20 million vets don’t like it, and 40 to 100 mil
    citizens should not like it. YES there is more, pain in the
    brain…. but this is enough for anyone here to fill in the
    blanks…

    In cold war days Russia said they would take-over the USA from
    within, Apparently this could be true unless all citizens
    stand your ground. Else, prepare to sensitivity training.

    This is about to come to about, Obama is trying to control all
    rights, particular of speech, is trying to speech restrict &
    control internet and news media. It is time to take a stand.

    I do believe the Arizona Sheriff Joe Arapio has legal probable
    cause to believe Obama was not vetted for eligibility maybe
    assisted by socialism to get around this, thus all he has done
    is legally null & void.

    Do your due diligence, give Communist Hell Every Day, support
    Larry Klayman of Judicial Watch as he is suing for crimes of
    this administration.

    Attorney Klayman is a former Justice Department lawyer. He
    has now filed Deportation petition on Barack H Obama.

    http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/pdf/141002-ObamaDeportationPetition.pdf

    ouggghhhh rahhhhhh

    JOHN ROWE USMC (Giving Communist Hell, Every Way, Every Day)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/dz9mik6psmx0atp/USA_USMC_PLACARD.PNG

  37. rabrooks says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:50 am

    It’ll never work! The fbi has a built-in fail in the knowledge/experience area. That’s why they never get things done. The max age for “special agent’ applicants was(probablly still is) 24yrs old. To learn the things that somebody needs to know for any “trade” is about ten years. 16-17 you get out of high school. There are some geniuses who can master stuff while young, but not many. To have a life, learn any religion takes years. Meanwhile, other areas usuallyl get neglicted, like mastering marksmanship, which they all need. For non-muslims, who will have to have firm foundation in their own religion, there is a saying. “When you dance with the devil, you don’t change the devil, the devil changes you.”

  38. devilchasnme says

    Nov 6, 2014 at 1:10 am

    But I wonder, is this really a practical problem?

    My company teaches me nothing about the products I have to sell so I go online and learn, I talk to customers and find out what works, what doesn’t.

    Don’t agents research Islam? It’s their lives on the line. It’s not like the link between terrorism and Islam is a secret. If they’re that clueless and truly can’t think for themselves then we’ve got a much bigger problem.

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