“Meanwhile, there have also been protests in London against the UK launching airstrikes on the Islamic State’s positions in Iraq.” Why does the Islamic State enjoy so much support among Muslims in the UK and Germany, if what it does is completely un-Islamic? While the condemnations continue to rain down upon its head, none of those doing the condemning have bothered to explain that.
A glimpse into Europe’s future: “Pro-ISIS radicals with machetes, knives attack Kurds in Germany (VIDEO),” RT, October 8, 2014 (thanks to all who sent this in):
Peaceful protests against IS in Syria and Iraq organized by Kurdish nationals in several German cities ended with serious clashes with pro-jihadist Muslims in Hamburg and Celle. Police had to request reinforcements to restore order.
Police in Hamburg, a port city of 1.8 million people, used water cannons, batons and pepper spray late Tuesday to disperse crowds of warring Kurds and pro-jihadist Muslims, armed with knives and brass-knuckles, following a protest against Islamic State militants who are attacking the Kurdish town of Kobani in Syria near the Turkish border.
At first, on Tuesday afternoon about 80 Kurdish protesters occupied Hamburg’s central train station for an hour, NDR.de reported. The Kurdish protesters left the railways voluntarily after 6pm, a police spokesman said.
A bigger group of about 500 Kurdish demonstrators marched through downtown Hamburg. On their way, they damaged several cars and Turkish snack bars, breaking panes of glass and throwing around plastic chairs. Police detained 14 rioters.
Later, several hundred Kurdish protesters gathered near the Al Nour Mosque on Steindamm Street near the city’s train station. At about 11:30pm local time (21:30 GMT), the Kurds were attacked by a group of approximately 40 armed supporters of the Islamic State (IS), RT’s Ruptly video news agency reported.
The violent clashes that followed the attack resulted in four people being hospitalized with stab wounds.
Anti-IS demonstrations of Kurds in northern Germany began Monday and were supported by hundreds of protesters in the cities of Bremen, Celle, Göttingen, Hannover, Kiel and Oldenburg.
In most of the cities, protests went off peacefully and were virtually trouble-free, but in Celle police failed to prevent clashes.
The first brawl between about 100 Kurds and Muslims on each side took place Monday, but police in Celle, a town of 71,000, with the help of colleagues from Hannover, Oldenburg and Wolfsburg, prevented serious clashes between the two groups.
On Tuesday, however, the two sides, armed with stones and bottles, attempted to break through police lines to attack each other.
Police in full anti-riot gear used pepper spray and batons to repel the attackers and prevent violence. Though the situation calmed down and no officers were injured, a large police force remains in the city to prevent a possible escalation.
Some of the Muslims taking part in the clashes in Celle were “Chechen nationals” who came there from all over Germany, Cellesche Zeitung reported….
Meanwhile, there have also been protests in London against the UK launching airstrikes on the Islamic State’s positions in Iraq.
Dave M says
And so it begins.
KrazyKafir says
Clueless dhimmis don’t get it, once you let muslims in the door, you’re guaranteeing a future of never-ending violent struggle with them until your homeland is 100% muslim.
Jay Boo says
Ironically
Many in the IS support side likely came as immigrants seeking asylum from (alleged) persecution.
But, can we really blame the IS Muslim supporters from the “not about Islam” side for feeling entitled to unleash intimidation and violence after their having been subjected to years of unbridled pandering by their host countries to their Islamic feelings of supremacy?
GP says
If you fully discovered a Trojan horse in your city, why would you let in a million more?
Roderick MacUalraig says
HAAAAA! The hard loving, fighting and drinking INFIDEL SAVAGE is coming!
Here we go! SOON!! It’s long past time for the free people of the world to cancel the threat of TOTALITARIANISM for good.
The fury of the common free man & women is going to be epic.
Coolio says
KrazyK, What do you mean, “never-ending violent struggle … until your homeland is 100% muslim”? The violent struggle gets even worse then. Shiits against Sunnis, Men (and I use the term loosely) against women, Religious police against bitches in bikinis… the war never ends…
OMH says
This is all very familiar, same country, different fascist ideology. When will some humans and I use that term loosely ever find peace in this world with Islamic doctrine being implemented literally all around the globe.
Jay Boo says
Scumbag religion
Scumbag Muhammad
tpellow says
“Kurds need help from the West and Turkey to hold off Islamic State”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11146417/Kurds-need-help-from-the-West-and-Turkey-to-hold-off-Islamic-State.html
mortimer says
GENOCIDE.
Why is it that Islam supports and creates GENOCIDE?
The Turks are bent on recreating the Istanbul caliphate. They want to EXTERMINATE the Kurds even though they are Muslim.
Chechen nationals says
“Chechen nationals”
Note to Ben Affleck: that would be WHITE Muslims.
PRCS says
test
Islam_Macht_Frei says
Inviting Muslim settlers is akin to injecting oneself with cancer cells.
GP says
Right?…and then allowing the cancer to go unchecked and untreated for fear of offending it (because now it is part of the body and has rights).
Jeff says
That’s for sure!
Jay Boo says
The Leftist MSM might need to call in actor Ben Affleck to do some more ‘damage control’ in case Leftist comedians like Bill Maher be tempted to go off message and criticize Muslims over this.
tpellow says
Kurds hold anti-Islamic State demo in London-
“Protestors Fill North London Streets In Support Of Kurds Fighting IS”
http://londonist.com/2014/10/protestors-fill-north-london-streets-in-support-of-kurds-fighting-is.php?
tpellow says
Of course, the counter-jihadist movement should support the Kurds’ resistance to Islamic State, and not only in words.
John C. Barile says
I agree, and I try to explain why, but some readers don’t care to choose sides, as they see no essential difference between IS and its victims. To me, the difference is between those who are Islam’s True Believers and those who essentially reject the precepts of Islamic theocracy and who embrace a different, modern pattern of society.
zulu says
Now ISIS clashes spread across Europe: Riot police separate hundreds of Kurds and Islamist supporters in Germany after at least nine are killed in protests in Turkey
-Kurdish protesters confronted Salafist Muslims outside a mosque
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2784809/Now-ISIS-clashes-spread-Europe-Riot-police-separate-hundreds-Kurds-Islamist-supporters-Germany-nine-killed-protests-Turkey.html#ixzz3FYuTFcAS
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EvenSo says
@ Zulu -Riot police separate hundreds of Kurds and Islamist supporters in Germany – and so we fall into the government and media’s semantic trap, both the “Kurds” and the “Islamist” supporters are Islamic and both support Islam, although amongst these Kurds there may be Christians and Yazidis, they are primarily Islamic.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes, the report should say “Kurdish Muslims” were fighting “Turkish and other non-Kurdish Muslims”.
Some of the Kurds appear to be somewhat slacker in their practice of Islam than are the Islamic State jihadis; that’s about all, at the moment.
*Some* Kurds have ditched Islam and become Christians, both within Turkey and also in the Kurdish region of Iraq. Now *they* would be people worth hearing from, and giving a platform to speak.
Jen says
I think the name-calling is a bit unnecessary here, Mazo? Islam as a religion is a problem, regardless of whether anyone makes mistakes in posting on this forum about the topic. The Qur’an is a sick book and Muhammad was a sick man. The overarching purpose of the blog posts is not to worry about trivial matters such as whether Muslims listen to music or not!
RichardL says
Hamburg is one of the City-States of Germany. They signed a Treaty with the Mohammedan groups in Hamburg granting them the same rights that Jews and Christian Churches have: exemption from school on islamic feast, the right to collect taxes, the right to be on public commissions, etc.
According to the German constitution this treaty is illegal as the Mohammedan groups are splintered. The lead institution on the Mohammedan side was the mosque that the German FBI has under observation because they have so many terrorist-friendly members.
Hamburg is the least Christian area in Germany and Multikulti is the state religion.
PRCS says
It’s noteworthy that one usually reads “Sunni, Shi’ah, and Kurds”; as if the Kurds are perhaps Presbyterians.
The majority Kurd religion is Sunni Islam.
John C. Barile says
The prime example is the capsule description of Iraq: Sunni Arab, Shi’a Arab, and Kurd–the Kurds being of Sunni majority and a significant Shi’a minority.
Jay Boo says
Pig shit ideology tries to pose as a religion while hiding itself under BS and plagiarism.
Note: That the mega mosque with two tower design seems to be an especially popular building style for new mosques with so-called moderate Muslims since 911
mariam rove says
20 seconds in the video the Islamist thugs are saying “Hamleh” which is both Farsi and Arabic to attack. M
epistemology says
It’s outrageous, the Germans accept Chechen “refugees”. These terrorists are Russian citizens and Russia is a safe country. No reason to flee from Russia unless you’re a terrorist. The Russians know better by far how to deal with terrorists than the Germans. We’ve got to get rid rid of Islamonazism.
susanp says
I spent a good part of my youth living in Germany and I cannot believe what I am seeing and hearing. What on earth has happened to this beautiful, prosperous country that used to have proud, hard-working, innovative people? People who wouldn’t tolerate hostile immigrants fighting in the streets and bankrupting their country with undeserved welfare, corrupting their culture, and disrupting their lives. This is not only happening in Germany, it’s happening all over Europe and yet it is tolerated and immigration from hostile, third-world muslim countries continues unabated. It must be true that some kind of treaty or agreement was made between Europe and the Middle East allowing unfettered muslim migration to Europe. There is no other explanation for the insanity.
dumbledoresarmy says
Are you serious? Because that comment is so deliberately extreme, so “out there”, as to begin to look as though you are “planting” posts here in these threads that can be seized upon by somebody and used as “gotchas!” to try to discredit Mr Spencer.
As far as I can see, the police seem to have been able to sort things out without resorting to such extreme measures.
IF any of the mohammedans had had guns and were using them to fire upon each other, at bystanders, or at the police, *then* use of live fire by the police – or even the army, called in to deal with a public order emergency – would be justifiable.
But it appears that they (the mohammedan gangs) didn’t have guns and that the police were able to subdue them without using guns.
*I’d* be curious to know whether the Dog Squad were deployed.
dumbledoresarmy says
I observe that water cannon were used. Remember, it’s evening, and it’s late autumn, in Europe; starting to get nice and cold, out.
I hope that the water was *just above freezing*. Nothing like a good thorough soaking with freezing-cold water to put a damper both on aggression and the physical ability to do anything much.
southeuropean says
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119741/ypgs-womens-wing-ypj-battles-islamic-state-syrias-kurdish-land
DiMu says
At least in the USA we still have guns.
wendy says
The whole World should be at war with this so called Islamic state, when will people learn to sit back and do nothing at the beginning will lead to world destruction of all religions, for god sake wake up and fight for peoples right to live, and worship in peace.
Hawk says
There are many Kurds that are refugees from many middle eastern countries. They have been slaughtered on all fronts for decades. I agree with what susanp says about there must be some kind of treaty or agreements involving huge amounts of money from middle eastern countries to European governments to take in these immigrants. I cannot understand why that apart from the Balkans conflict, Europe has been in peace since the end of WW2, and now these murderers seem to have free reign throughout Europe and have a formulated plan to topple the world. In many ways it is good it has come to light now because it is so uncoordinated it cannot work. However, there is no evidence that these unconscious political leaders will use these events to learn from, and thereby, collect all those people involved in terrorism association and deport them all and their families. The only way the European governments will tackle this plague is to use live weapons as a deterrent, so these murderers know where the limits are.
Lavender says
This was not pro IS against kurds.. no it’s Turks against Kurds! Everyone with a little knowledge on the Turks and the Kurds understands this. And Turks are very nationalistic, Turkey above all..even their own religion (Islam)! The fighting at the Turkish border, with all the Kurdish fighters..that’s considered a threat to Turkey! Hence German Turks attacked German Kurds.
Clearly Jihadwatch is a propaganda machine and not reporting factual information.
Kurds are mostly also Muslim, so I think it’s funny how you state it’s Kurds against Muslims. Quit laughable actually. A very cheap way of distorting news.