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Guardian’s Brian Whitaker: Most Arab states share Islamic State’s ideology

Oct 28, 2014 11:53 pm By Robert Spencer

BrianWhitaker2Brian Whitaker? Brian Whitaker in the Guardian? This is the Brian Whitaker who thinks that Gandhi “would undoubtedly have appreciated jihad”? This is the Brian Whitaker who hates Jihad Watch and thinks Prince Charles’s pandering to Islamic supremacists is a praiseworthy endeavor?

Brian Whitaker is a notorious dhimmi columnist in a publication and a country that is thick with them, and yet even he, and the Guardian, are beginning to notice that the Islamic State is not as singular as the political and media elites insist. Sometimes reality breaks through, despite their best efforts to keep it out.

“Most Arab states share Isis’s ideology. They’re trying to have it both ways,” by Brian Whitaker, the Guardian, October 28, 2014:

…Bombing Isis and banning Islamist movements may suppress such movements for a while but it does nothing to address the ideological problem. Unless the question of compulsion in religion is tackled head-on, and in a serious way, they will resurface later or similar groups will emerge to replace them.

Although freedom of belief is a widely accepted principle internationally, enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, it is still far from becoming established in the Arab countries. This is true of both governments and society.

As far as many of the Arab public are concerned, discriminating against members of the “wrong” faith, or those who hold unorthodox views, is not only acceptable, but the right thing to do. For Arab governments, enforcing religious rules and allying themselves with God helps to make up for their lack of electoral legitimacy.

This causes a particular problem in combating the ideology of groups such as Isis because most Arab states – including several members of the military coalition against it – share Isis’s approach to compulsion in religion. Isis may be more brutal in practice but, basically, they are on the same ground – asserting the superiority of Islam and the legitimacy of religious discrimination.

Isis’s readiness to execute people for their beliefs has parallels in six Arab countries – Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the UAE and Yemen – where apostasy is a crime and in theory the death penalty can apply. Curiously, though, they seem reluctant to enforce it. No recent executions for apostasy have been reported in any of them and in Saudi Arabia there have been none for well over 20 years, according to the US state department.

On the rare occasions when an execution for apostasy becomes a possibility, these countries usually resort to avoidance mechanisms.

In 1996, for example, the authorities in Kuwait were confronted with their first apostasy case since independence when Hussein Ali Qambar, a Shia Muslim, converted to evangelical Christianity and adopted “Robert” as his first name. Qambar had separated from his wife and his conversion came to light during a court case about custody of their children. In accordance with Islamic custom, efforts were made to persuade him to recant – but to no avail. Islamists then began agitating and filing lawsuits seeking to have him condemned for apostasy.

The case went to court and a judge recommended the death penalty. This put the Kuwaiti authorities on the spot, since there was no doubt (in sharia terms) that Qambar was an apostate. Looking for a way to defuse the situation, they issued him with a passport and allowed him to quietly leave the country.

A similar case arose in Yemen in 2000 when Mohammed Omer Haji, a Somali refugee who had converted from Islam to Christianity, was arrested and charged with apostasy. Once again, there were behind-the-scenes activities to avert his execution, which ended with him being granted emergency resettlement in New Zealand with his wife and son.

More recently in Sudan, Meriam Ibrahim was convicted of apostasy and sentenced to death. In the absence of her Muslim father, Ibrahim had been raised by her mother as a Christian but in Sudan, under Islamic law, children inherit the religion of their father and so Ibrahim was officially classified as a Muslim. This meant she was technically an apostate, having supposedly abandoned Islam for Christianity.

Following much international pressure, an appeal court overturned her death sentence. She was released from jail and, as with the Kuwaiti and Yemeni cases, eventually allowed to leave the country.

These countries are essentially trying to have it both ways. They don’t want to execute anyone for apostasy because they know there would be an international outcry, but they also fear the reaction from religious elements if they try to abolish the death penalty….

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  1. Buraq says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:09 am

    I read this article in ‘The Guardian’ just 15 minutes ago. I’m still in shock! In leftist terms, this is like Billy Graham deciding to recite the shehada, strap on a suicide vest and blow himself up in a Walmart store while yelling alahu akbar! No, really!

    Could it be that the Left’s Praetorian Guard are beginning to weaken under blow after blow of cognitive dissonance?

    I’m going to have an extra slice of toast with lashings of peanut butter to celebrate this moment! — I’m having breakfast. :))

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:22 am

      @Buraq

      Have lashings of bacon…….who can not like bacon ?

      • Huck Folder says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 1:44 am

        “lashings”? Subliminal sharia susurrations?

        Lots of those islamist (OIC) countries haven’t signed the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”, but instead have signed the almost identical “Cairo Declaration of Human Rights”. I believe the only differences are that sharia is supreme, and women are ‘equal but different’. Have at that you feminazis!

        So if there is ANY conflict with sharia in the UDHR intentions, sharia rules.
        I think some of the OIC jihadi states have signed the UDHR, but manage to break the rules, with impunity. What’s the UN to do? You can’t even get something on the agenda, when over a quarter of the UN is the OIC bloc, and maybe another quarter are ‘non-aligned’ (read anti-western) and vote in lockstep with the OIC.

        Then there is the noisome, pathetic UNHRC which includes some of the worst offenders on the planet. It’s like the bosses, security, doctors, nurses or the henhouse are all foxes.

        So they can and do go after Israel, almost to the exclusion of all the real savages on the planet. I wish that one of those really serious investigative TV programs, like The Passionate Eye would sift through the sixty odd years of the UN’s existence, or the the UNHRC and show the depravity of the system, and its UTTER bias.

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 5:15 pm

          Lots of those islamist (OIC) countries haven’t signed the “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”, but instead have signed the almost identical “Cairo Declaration of Human Rights”. I believe the only differences are that sharia is supreme, and women are ‘equal but different’.

          The CDHR contains a handy Islamic loophole by adroitly neglecting to mention what the UNDHR explicitly mentions — no discrimination on the basis of religion.

          For more details, see my section — “An afterword on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights” — in my blog essay, A proto-Caliphate: the O.I.C.

        • Colin Jones says

          Oct 31, 2014 at 9:31 am

          Absolutely concur with what you say. The U.N. is dominated by an anti Israel bloc and is a sham for the most part. Not only a sham but an impotent one at that if you look at what they have achieved.

    • terry says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 1:03 am

      Brian Whitaker is accurate but one important element is still missing.

      Even if the government of one of those Islamic countries found a way out of the situation, of course because of being under international spotlight, still Islamic law gives the right to any other Muslim to kill the apostate (who changed from Islam to any other religion); the former won’t be persecuted for it because he is carrying out a divine obligation!

      Examples: Before her escape to Italy with her family, Meriam Ibrahim’s brother, a Muslim, was trying to find her to have her killed. A man previously a Shia Muslim from Iraq, was attacked by his own family and left for dead, because he converted to Chritianity. He miraculously survived and later escaped to France, where he changed his name, got married and had children. He later, recently, wrote a book about his life and that ordeal.

      Others were not so lucky, and their numbers are in the thousands over the years. In the last five years or so I read or heard from reliable sources about at least 7 or 8 cases of converts killed in Pakistan, Somalia and the middle east.

      Here are two recent cases:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/yemen-woman-burned-to-death-by-brother-for-converting-to-christianity

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/kenya-convert-from-islam-to-christianity-beaten-thrown-off-balcony

    • Beagle says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:58 am

      I’m trying to keep this in perspective. But as a long-time Guardian reader banned from CiF for saying things very much like this column, I’m taking my pants off and dancing around a bit.

    • PJG says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 7:35 am

      Things are becoming too obvious. These stooges don’t want to lose their jobs. They don’t have to; their readers have been in the dark for a long time. So instead of admitting they were wrong and scurrying away, they “discover” reality and keep their jobs and egos afloat by sharing their “discoveries” with their public. It’s a win-win situation, except for those of us, especially the very hard workers like Robert Spencer, who have been delivering the true message for years. Oh, and for our civilisation, which remains in peril while it waits for twits like Brian Whitaker to move ahead a step or two.

      • VictorMc says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 7:48 am

        That word EGO/S is what glues together the failed EU.

    • Reality Check says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 8:15 am

      I almost spit out my coffee when I read this column in the Guardian. Finally some common sense. Someone dares to speak out the obvious at the Guardian. Where is my popcorn, this is going to be fun.

      • Beagle says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 11:53 am

        Read the comments. It’s hysterical, the characteristic leftist smugness and anger. Of course the main response is to blame it all on the US and UK due to military involvement or Sykes-Picot drawing imaginary lines on the Middle East almost a hundred years ago. Ironically that’s the same position IS takes philosophically.

        Western universities and leftist indoctrination are primary root causes of modern jihad terrorism, after Islamic jihad and martyrdom of course. If the progs always want to talk about root causes, and they do, by all means let’s do it.

    • VictorMc says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 11:23 am

      ooooooH peanut butter – murder on my figure….

  2. Wolfgang says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:19 am

    ” Isis’s readiness to execute people for their beliefs has parallels in six Arab countries – Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the UAE and Yemen – where apostasy is a crime and in theory the death penalty can apply. Curiously, though, they seem reluctant to enforce it. No recent executions for apostasy have been reported in any of them and in Saudi Arabia there have been none for well over 20 years, according to the US state department. ”

    Really ? the Dimmni fool THE DEATH penalty DOES apply according to the prophet Mo…..

    Bukhari (52:260) – “…The Prophet said, ‘If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.’ ”

    Bukhari (83:37) – “Allah’s Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations: (1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,) (2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate.”

    Bukhari (84:57) – [In the words of] “Allah’s Apostle, ‘Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.'”

    Bukhari (89:271) – A man who embraces Islam, then reverts to Judaism is to be killed according to “the verdict of Allah and his apostle.”

    Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.'”

    Abu Dawud (4346) – “Was not there a wise man among you who would stand up to him when he saw that I had withheld my hand from accepting his allegiance, and kill him?” Muhammad is chastising his companions for allowing an apostate to “repent” under duress. (The person in question was Muhammad’s former scribe who left him after doubting the authenticity of divine “revelations” upon finding out that he could suggest grammatical changes. He was brought back to Muhammad after having been captured in Medina).

    Reliance of the Traveller (Islamic Law) o8.1 – “When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.” (o8.4 affirms that there is no penalty for killing an apostate).

    The contemporary (i.e., 1991) Al-Azhar (Cairo) Islamic Research Academy endorsed manual of Islamic Law, Umdat al-Salik (pp. 595-96) states: “Leaving Islam is the ugliest form of unbelief (kufr) and the worst…. When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostasizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed. In such a case, it is obligatory…to ask him to repent and return to Islam. If he does it is accepted from him, but if he refuses, he is immediately killed.”

    Doesn’t know the book of the murderers and rapists well does he ?

    quote :

    ” In the tough neighborhood of the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is considered a Western ally. Yet, Saudi Arabia doesn’t recognize the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Saudi courts allow BEHEADING and STONING , and Saudi Arabian women are required to have a male guardian when they leave the house and need their guardian’s permission for marriage and divorce, travel – if under 45 – and for education; employment and opening a bank account. They are also not permitted to drive or vote.

    I rest my case…….

  3. Jen says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:22 am

    I’m getting excited. Armed with the truth, we shall be victorious in the end!

  4. Larry A. Singleton says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:45 am

    Like an idiot I skipped over a section in Littman’s translation because it looked “boring and unimportant”. I picked it up and read it and realized that what I had missed in this document was a “Declaration of War” against Israel. Declared in 1968 at a conference at Al Azhar University in Cairo Egypt. The whole document by itself is a mind blower. And I would dare to say that ones education on radical Islam is not complete until you’ve read this thing; front to back. The 4th Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research: Arab Theologians on Jews and Israel. Sept. 1968 Translated by D.F. Green/David G. Littman mentioned below. See Bostom references below.

    JIHAD

    “we may describe it, (jihad), as a surgeon’s lancet and not a butcher’s knife.” Mahmoud Mohammed Taha (I’m sure there are about 200 million dead people that would disagree with him. And this from the guy who’s been called the Mahatma Ghandi of Islam.)

    About three years ago I ordered some reading material, including Taha’s “Second Message”, and a “study” Koran to find out what this “Islam thing” was all about. When I was sixteen I was chanting nam yo ho renge kyo to a piece of paper, (gahonzen?), having NO idea what I was doing. A few years later, hair down to my ass and a knapsack on my back, I hitchhiked cross country, got saved in Nashville Tenn. and went to live on a Christian farm in Mansfield Ohio. (Not the prison.) My gra’mom called me a “seeker”. As I said, there came a time when I wanted to understand this “religion of peace”. It was Humaid’s article on jihad I found in my Summarized Bukhari that decided “things” for me.

    If Islam is the “religion of peace”, where in Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid’s article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor” and “good will toward men”? And explain its prominence, and significance almost as an “Introduction”, in a book that’s described as “the most authentic and true among the books of the Prophet”: My Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari. Also address “jihad” as it’s defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. (Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.” And explain why the “greater” jihad is only mentioned once here and never seen again in this “Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”.)

    Compare Humaid’s “jihad” and Emmet Fox’ Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and “compassion”.

    (A book I just happened to have finished when this book came in the mail.) And, again, tell me, why;

    Why, out of all the articles, out of all the words of pearly Muslim wisdom they could have put in this, “the most authentic and true among the books of the Prophet”, this is the one they chose to submit and use almost as an Introduction?

    Including….! Chapters following this one on “Shirking” and “Polytheism and Disbelief: the greatest sin against Allah”.

    I should mention as a resource this is one of the worst I’ve ever seen. No Index. The verses don’t match those quoted from the original. And the publishers themselves can’t even explain it.

    Lastly; would you pick Sheikh bin Humaid to sit on a Human Rights Commission? (That’s a trick question by the way.)

    Maybe you can throw in an explanation of the Jews are “monkeys, pigs and rats” on page 656 and the part where Mo says, “if somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him” on page 613 in the chapter on Jihad.

    Also, explain why Humaid’s “jihad” shouldn’t be “Exhibit A” in refuting the “religion of peace” claim.

    I’ve posted this many times to many Muslims and have yet to get a single response. Well, I did receive a response from some goofball named “Dr.” Mohsen El-Guindy asking me to read his books. Instead I downloaded a bunch of his articles. Which were pure rants. An Imam, sidestepped it by telling me I had to “study Islam” to gain a greater understanding. To this day I can’t get a response from the publishers of the Summarized Bukhari regarding the lack of Index or where I can find info that straightens out the pathetic inconsistancies in this book; The verses quoted online don’t match those in the book. Or anybody else for that matter.

    Jihad in the Qur’an and Sunnah by ‘Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid
    http://www.islaam.net/main/display.php?category=77&id=129

    or: (Google it it’s easy to find)

    http://www.guidance4yoursoul.net/Jihad%20In%20The%20Qur'an%20And%20Sunnah.pdf

    I’m submitting something else to this. It took me over about a month to read through this because I couldn’t read hardly a page without getting really pissed off. There is no religion on the planet that inspires the kind of anger and pure hate that Islam does when I read stuff like the following. Front to back, all 95 plus pages of nothing but Jew-Hatred and the most vile lies. I dare you to read it….if you can stomach it.

    The 4th Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research: Arab Theologians on Jews and Israel. Sept. 1968 Translated by D.F. Green/David G. Littman (Support Secure Freedom)Front to back; 95 pages of outrageous lies and vile Jew-Hatred.
    http://supportsecurefreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/Arab-Theologians-on-Jews-and-Israel-4th_Ed_082011.pdf
    Read Andrew Bostom’s The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism and read from page 51 on the above topic to page 53 the 2003 Putrajaya Islamic Summit and a little beyond to a speech by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi on the same page. The whole chapter is one horrific example after another of Islamic mass murder and pogroms but go ahead and start with this.

    And this:

    Dr. Wafa Sultan exposes Islamic values with Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad
    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/dr-wafa-sultan-exposes-islamic-values-sheikh-omar-bakri-muhammad
    This less than 8-minute video segment, if viewed objectively and dispassionately, could do more to educate the American public on the theory animating the practice of “Islamic international relations,” without any further explanation required. Andrew G. Bostom-The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism.

    I thought I’d go ahead and include these as well:

    Islamists Project Islam’s Worst Traits onto Christians by Raymond Ibrahim
    raymondibrahim-com/9669/islamists-project-islam-worst-traits-onto

    Muslims Project Islam’s Worst Traits onto Israel and the Jews by Raymond Ibrahim
    raymondibrahim-com/8348/muslims-project-islam-worst-traits-onto-israel

    The connection between Muslim inbreeding and terrorism by Nicolai Sennels
    http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/12/connection-between-muslim-inbreeding.html

    Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society by Nicolai Sennels
    http://europenews.dk/en/node/34368

    The Rape and Murder of Pakistan’s Christian Children
    frontpagemag-com/2012/raymond-ibrahim/the-rape-and-murder-of-pakistans-christian-children/

    Subscribe to Jihad/Campus Watch and the Middle East Forum/Quarterly, Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), Gatestone Institute, FrontPage Magazine, American Thinker, The Clarion Project, Cross Muslims, Palestinian Media Watch, Muhammad unveiled, Religion of Peace (dot com) and read Raymond Ibrahim, Efraim Karsh, Patrick Poole, Caroline Glick, Bat Ye’or and others.

    This is Islam:

    “She’s Buried Chest High”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXdy5Fwwfzg

    Slavery, Terrorism and Islam, (and Holocaust in Rwanda), by Peter Hammond (This is an Ass-Kicking little resource of 276 pages.)

    The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism: From the Sacred Texts to Solemn History by Andrew G. Bostom (Read the “Note on the Cover Art-Execution of a Moroccan Jewess” or this book Review/article by Benjamin District; “Jewess Heroine-Sol Hachuel”.
    http://myrightword.blogspot.com/2008/02/jewess-heroine-sol-hachuel.html

    Supplemental Article “The First and Last Enemy: Jew Hatred in Islam.” by Bostom
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28549

    The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims by Andrew G. Bostom MD

    Book Review-The Legacy of Jihad by: Alyssa A. Lappen (Frontpage Magazine)
    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=7334

    The Legacy of Islamic Totalitarianism: Sharia vs. Freedom by Andrew G. Bostom. Read the Reviews on this latest book by Eileen F. Toplansky and Alyssa A. Lappen (Get the whole set)

    Book Review by Alyssa A. Lappen-Sharia States: Totalitarian to the Core
    http://pjmedia.com/blog/sharia-states-totalitarian-to-the-core/

    Also read his other Review on Amazon
    http://www.amazon.com/Sharia-Versus-Freedom-Islamic-Totalitarianism-ebook/dp/B00C4B2HEK

    Book Review by Eileen F. Toplansky Tackling the Totalitarianism of Islam (American Thinker)
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/tackling_the_totalitarianism_of_islam.html

    Martin Kramer:
    Gaza is a place with no Israeli settlements, from which Israel has totally withdrawn to the 1967 lines, and which nonetheless has become a Hamas terror state. That’s what happens in conditions of Gazafication. So when people say that in a two-state solution, Palestinians would have a “right of return” to the West Bank and not Israel, I do not find that particularly reassuring either. Any influx of Palestinians across the Jordan poses a problem for Israel, and it is naive to dismiss it. I would like to hear how, in a two-state scenario, Gazafication of the West Bank can be prevented. I haven’t heard it yet.

    Neither have I.

    Read The Haj by Leon Uris. And ask these questions:

    What year did the nation of Palestine come into existance?
    What were its national borders and what year did it cease to exist?
    What currency did the nation of Palestine use and why is there no history of it?
    Name one leader to the “nation of Palestine” prior to Yasser Arafat.

    The Haj by Leon Uris (A Primer on the “right to return” scam)
    Lessons from ‘The Haj’ A book review by Joseph Puder
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2011/joseph-puder/lessons-from-the-haj/print/

    and

    Because They Hate: A Survivor of Islamic Terror Warns America by Brigitte Gabriel (These two books should be sold as a gift set.)

    • terry says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:40 pm

      It is not inbreeding, it’s the evil ideology and belief system which are embedded in their brains since they were little children! In other words, the problem does not lie in the hard ware but the soft ware.

      Case in point, all those crazy and stupid terror acts, including the recent ones in Canada, US, were committed by recent converts to Islam, who most probably came from a completely heterogenic gene pool.

      On the other hand we don’t hear about violent terrorist acts committed by groups, which because of their geographic location isolation, probably have the highest inbreeding rates on the planet.

      When was the last time we heard about a terrorist act committed by a person of the following groups: Innuits and Hyda people in Canada; aboriginals in Australia; Maoris In new Zealand; Sami people in Norway; Different scattered aboriginal groups throughout South America;…..etc.

  5. Wolfgang says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:45 am

    BTW makes no different if Saudi Arabia does or does not enfcorce the penalty, its like comparing Jack the Ripper to Ted Bundy, all those 7th century nations evil, evil ,evil..

    Here is a list of people who have been killed for Apostasy………sorry about the length folks…the Saudi’s along with so called moderate state’s are just using the US as their policeman to do their dirty work, General Smedley Butler was right, War is a racket……..sadly the US sends her finest for these low lifes….these scum would be just goat herders in a sea of sand if it was not for oil….

    Young Girl Killed for Helping ‘Apostate’ Cousin…
    Egypt Sentences Christian Convert to Five Years in Prison…
    Pregnant Woman Sentenced to Death for Choosing Christianity…
    17-Year-Old Girl Beaten to Death by Father for Becoming Christian…
    Man Stabbed in Refugee Center for Leaving Islam…
    Family Tries to Poison Apostate…
    Teen Hacked to Death in Church for Changing Faith…
    Two Christians Beheaded in Front of Children…
    Woman Hacked to Death in Church for Leaving Islam…
    Imam Converts to Christianity – Father Tries to Stab Him…
    Man Leaves Islam – Home Burned Down by Relatives…
    Afghan Parliament Member Calls for Execution of Christian Converts…
    Woman Kidnapped, Sexually Abused for Becoming Christian…
    Young Girl Shaved and Beaten for Converting to Christianity…
    15-Year-Old Boy Executed for Denying Belief in God…
    Ex-Muslim Couple Imprisoned for Converting to Christianity…
    Saudis Lash and Jail Man Accused of Helping Woman Convert…
    Morocco’s Highest Islamic Body Demands Death of Anyone Rejecting Islamic Faith…
    Christian Widow and Mother of 5 Hunted Down and Murdered for Leaving Islam…
    Iran Tells Imprisoned Pastor the Torture Will End When He Renounces Faith…
    Wife Kicked Out of Home for Becoming Christian…
    Two Christian Converts Murdered by Islamists…
    Christian Convert Jailed and Tortured for Leaving Islam…
    Imprisoned Pastor’s Health Worsens as Beatings Intensify…
    Woman’s Entire Family Threatened with Death for Her Leaving Islam…
    Prominent Muslim-American Group Backs Death Penalty for Leaving Islam…
    Ex-Muslim Turned Pastor Gunned Down…
    Teacher, Father of Four Shot to Death…
    Christian Convert Denied Right to See His Children…
    Egypt Imprisons Entire Family of Christian Converts…
    Girl’s Face Burned by Parents for Embracing Christianity…
    Islamists Behead Convert to Christianity…
    Ex-Muslim and Family Denied Fresh Water…
    al-Shabaab Shoots 3 Christian Converts in Somalia…
    Teenage Girl Gets Two Years in Prison after Leaving Islam…
    Apostate Preacher Murdered in His Own Home…
    Criminal Past Invented to Punish Christian Convert…
    Convert Released from Solitary Confinement After 105 Days…
    Five Christian Converts ‘Disappear’ in Iranian Prison System…
    Atheist Sentenced to Three Years for Denying God’s Existence…
    Muslims Offer Prayers as They Cut Man’s Throat for Embracing Christianity…
    Apostate’s Brother Urges Sudan to Kill Her…
    Death Sentence Fatwa Placed on Head of ‘Apostate’ Rapper…
    Church Pastor Abducted for Baptizing Muslim Girl…
    Apostates Jailed, Families Mocked…
    Christian Converts Describe Torture by Muslim Fundamentalists…
    Ex-Imam and Wife Nearly Beaten to Death for Converting to Christianity
    Girl Severely Beaten, Families Threatened for Showing Interest in Jesus
    Iran: No College for Ex-Muslims
    Two Converts to Christianity Stabbed in Norway
    Uganda Girl Learning to Walk after Brutal Torture for Leaving Islam
    Egyptian Cleric Says to Behead Apostates
    Convert Beheaded for Leaving Islam
    Iran Jails Christian Woman for Two Years over Leaving Islam
    Muslim Father Arrested to Lure Christian Sons Back to Fate
    Zanzibar Christian Suffers in Jail after Incarceration and Torture for Apostasy
    Christian Woman Faints While Being Publicly Flogged for Leaving Islam
    Secularist Endures ‘Unbearable’ Torture, Prepares for Execution
    Apostate Pastor Blinded with Acid in Uganda
    Children Murdered to Punish Ex-Muslim for Embracing Christianity
    Christian Convert Sentenced to 6 Years in Prison following Baptism
    Iran Orders Ex-Muslim Pastors to Serve Prison Sentences
    Kenyan Convert Stripped and Beaten with Iron Rods at Kenyan Church
    Christian Convert Tied Up and Stomped On
    Five Afghan Christian Converts Martyred…
    Converts from Islam Detained and Beaten
    Christian Convert Survives Brutal Stabbing in “Moderate” Morocco
    Converts to Christianity Ordered to ‘Repent’ or Face ‘Social Boycott’
    Schoolteacher Gunned Down After Converting to Ahmadi Faith
    Man Beheaded for Leaving Islam and Embracing Christianity…
    Christian Girl Tortured and Killed for Leaving Islam…
    Christian Convert Flees after Severe Beating by Family…
    Swedish Imam Calls on Muslims to Kill Converts…
    25 Ex-Muslims Arrested in Iran…
    Morocco Gives Ex-Muslim 15 Years in Jail for ‘Proselytizing’…
    14-Year-Old ‘Apostate’ Girl Unable to Walk after Torture…
    Court Orders Apostate to ‘Repent His Christian Faith’ or Die…
    Christian Released after 9 Months in prison for Leaving Islam
    New Ground Zero Imam Says Apostates Should be Jailed…
    Muslim Murdered for Intention to Convert to Hinduism…
    Palestinian Couple Declared Apostates, Forcibly Divorced…
    Time Running Out for Apostate Pastor Facing Execution…
    Muslim-American Leaders Challenged to Reject Killing Apostates
    Palestinian Authority Labels Ahmadis ‘Apostates’…
    Suicide Bombers Close in on ‘Apostate’ Pakistan Ahmadi Community…
    ‘Blessings’ Promised to Those who Kill Ahmadiya ‘Apostates’
    ‘Apostate’ Ahmadiyahs Brutally Murdered by ‘Allah Akbar’ Mob
    Man in Britain Beaten with Plank for Leaving Islam…
    Christian Couple Stabbed in Home for Leaving Islam…
    Iranian Christian Beaten to Death by Relative
    21-Year-Old Christian Executed for Leaving Islam…
    Afghan Released after 9 Months in prison for Leaving Islam…
    Christian Father of Ten Executed in Front of Home
    Christian Faces Death Penalty for Leaving Islam…
    Father of 6 Jailed and Beaten for Leaving Islam…
    Tortured Aid Worker Faces Execution for Becoming Christian…
    63-Year-Old Convert & Son Beaten for Leaving Islam…
    Imprisoned Pastor Faces Death Penalty for Leaving Islam…
    Ethiopian Stabbed for Leaving Islam…
    Son Confesses to Killing Father for Leaving Islam…
    17-Year-Old Girl Beaten by Family, in Shackles for Leaving Islam…
    15-Year-Old Girl Attacked with Acid for Leaving Islam…
    Asylum Seekers in Norway Scald Christian Convert with Boiling Water…
    Christian Convert Flees Torture in Bangladesh…
    Christian Convert Beaten to Death…
    False Cattle Theft Charge Used to Stop Christian Convert…
    Egyptian Muslims Attempt to Behead Christian Convert…
    Afghanistan Detains 20 Christian Converts amid Call for Death…
    Torture Fears for Humanitarian Worker Charged with Apostasy…
    Schoolchildren Forced to Watch Execution of Christian Convert…
    Pastor to Hang for Apostasy…
    Islamic Scholars Mull Putting Ex-Muslims to Death…
    Pastors Warned to Return to Islam or Risk Murder…
    Australian Islamists Vow to Murder Ex-Muslims…
    Cleric: Ex-Muslims Should be Reasoned With – Then Killed…
    Egypt Jails Christian Convert Accused of Distributing Bibles…
    Elderly Woman Burned to Death for Converting Family from Islam…
    Christian Convert Executed by Somali Islamists…
    Malaysia: Whipping, Prison and Fines for Anyone Trying to Convert Muslims…
    Bangladeshi Christian Convert Threatened with Death…
    Ethiopian Christian Convert Languishes in Jail over Bibles…
    Bibles Burned, Christian Converts Threatened with Same Fate…
    Family Ordered to ‘Sacrifice’ Christian Convert Son…
    Judge Tells Christian Convert of His Desire to Kill Her…
    Police Round Up Christian Converts in Iran…
    Comoros Imam who Converts to Christianity is Forced into Hiding
    Elderly Christian Converts Driven from Home…
    Police Rape and Torture Christian Convert – Promise to Release Her if She Will Return to Islam…
    Christian Converts Hunted Down and Beaten in Comoros…
    Son of Murdered Christian Convert Also Faces Death…
    Iran’s Parliament Votes to Kill Christian Converts…
    Christian Convert Shot to Death by Devout Muslims…
    Mob Pelts Christian Converts with Rocks…
    Innocent Man Slain After Cleric Declares Ahmadis to be Wajibul Qatl…
    ‘Moderate’ Malaysia Sends Christian Converts to Re-Education Camps…
    Jordan Annuls Marriage of Christian Convert…
    Christian Convert & Wife Beaten, Flee to Save Children…
    New Zealand Christian Convert Goes Underground to Stay Alive…
    Christian Convert Needs Police Protection – in the UK!…
    Genital-Shocking Egyptian Police Detain Christian Convert…
    Ethiopian Islamists Stab Christian Convert’s Son…
    Christian Convert (Father of 4) Murdered by Islamists…
    Christian Convert Murdered by Islamic Radicals…
    16-Year-Old Christian Convert has Muslim Man Forced on Her…
    Imam Calls for His Own Son’s Murder for Leaving Islam…
    Somali Christian Shot to Death for Leaving Islam…
    Father of Two Shot to Death for Leaving Islam…
    Palestinian Terrorists Butcher and Cut Christian Man into Four Pieces…
    Iran Holds Women in Notorious Prison for Leaving Islam…
    Christian Woman Divorced and Beaten for Leaving Islam…
    Libya Urged to Stop Torturing Christians for Leaving Islam…
    Graphic Video Posted of Man Beheaded for Leaving Islam…
    Christian Beheaded for Leaving Islam…
    Saudi Cuts Out Daughter’s Tongue and Burn Her Alive for Leaving Islam…
    Prominent Canada Threatens to Kill Daughter for Leaving Islam…
    Yemen Arrests Nine for Leaving Islam…
    Maldives Cleric Vows to Kill Anyone Leaving Islam…
    Four Christians Sent to Jail for Leaving Islam…
    Elderly Woman Burned to Death for Leaving Islam…
    Malaysia Officially Bars Muslims from Leaving Islam…
    Young Christian Murdered after Leaving Islam…
    Apostate Woman’s Fingernails Torn Out by Family…
    Apostate Spat on in the UK, Threatened with Death…
    Poll: 4 in 5 Pakistanis Support Stoning Adulterers, Apostates…
    Iraqi Mujahideen Post Video of ‘Apostate’ Beheading…
    Harvard Chaplain Defends Killing Apostates…
    Executed Somali Christian was Accused of Apostasy…
    Man Under House Arrest over Son’s Apostasy…
    (Canada) Mother Threatens to Kill Apostate Son…
    Apostasy: Iran to Enforce Death Penalty Worldwide?…
    Apostates Suffer Religious Persecution in Britain…
    UK Clerics Refuse to Denounce Killing Apostates…
    Somali Christian Casually Executed for Apostasy…
    Dutch Muslims Assault Apostate…
    Non-Muslims Horrified by Details of Apostate Family’s Murder…
    Apostate and Christian Father of 7 Shot Dead in Ethiopia…
    Islamists Post ‘Hit List’ of Apostates…

    • Larry A. Singleton says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 1:28 am

      And try finding this anywhere:

      “Hard to watch” Syrian refugee-child-beaten by his Lebanese host family (video) This came in my Facebook page. I can’t find the source to save my life. OR any mention in lamestream media.

      I watched the whole thing. I’ve seen a lot and I don’t usually get teary eyed but….

    • VictorMc says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 11:25 am

      Why all that list?

      http://www.thereligionpofpeace.com

      It’s all there – has been for years.
      V.

      • Wolfgang says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 8:38 pm

        @VictorMc

        yes, true, but some people could not be bothered to go to the link, I did say my apologies for the cut and post, good enough ?

    • Anon says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 4:12 pm

      Cite your source(s).

    • BC says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 6:25 am

      Thanks for that very informative list and those are just the ones we have heard about! We could probably multiply it by 5 at least maybe even 10 given the size of the world Muslim population!
      It is exactly like Apartheid S Africa, there you were a black/coloured if you had the taint no matter how slight. In Islam you have no freedom of choice you have the brand of ISLAM on you from birth, just like a cattleman brands his calves.

  6. Larry A. Singleton says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:49 am

    Just got my sweetie Caroline Glick’s “The Israel Solution” in the mail the other day. Yeeehaa! And Bostom’s Sharia vs. Freedom a week before that. (I was almost giggly when this came in the mail. Read the part about “Shintoism” and WWII in the book review. Depressing.)

  7. Don McKellar says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:49 am

    This whole sudden meltdown of the leftists on Islam is quickly becoming a theatre of the absurd. These people are turning around on everything they were compeletly dillusional about — as if discovering that the sky is blue for the first time after a decade plus of denial that it was! It’s so ridiculous!

    Next thing you know, Robert Spencer will be writing pieces for The Guardian, The New York Times, and have his own show on CNN. That seems to be where this is headed at this breakneck 180 degree turnaround!

    Let us all hope this turnaround towards reality continues. It can’t happen soon enough or fast enough.

  8. fair_dinkum says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:12 am

    very significant.

    when all of this started in 2010 and the rebellions got bloodier, i thought then that eventually, islam would become so monotonously violent and disgraceful, that no body could ignore it forever..

    the day is coming. mr maher and now this man..i hope the death threats dont get to him too much.

  9. Salah says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:19 am

    “Most Arab states share Islamic State’s ideology”

    This is why I always say to the ISIS vermins: THANK YOU.
    Most Arab states are indeed fighting against ISIS, they don’t have any other choice if they want to remain in power. On the other hand, by fighting against ISIS they have no other choice than fighting against Islam itself. They can’t have it both. ISIS is Islam, and they know it.
    Dear friends, be optimistic; Islam is dying, Islam is slowly but surely dying.

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/05/dying-islam-lislam-mourant.html

    • dsinc says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 3:49 am

      Salah, you have been saying that Islam is dying for a while now and I’m sure we all hope you are right. What is worrying to me is Western governments legislating against antisharia activities and thereby actually inforcing the shar’ia as is happening in the UK and Germany, and probably elseware too, at the moment. I know they think this is “not conducive to the public good” but
      opposing the Islamic takeover of the West is a difficult enough battle to fight without having your own government on their side to boot.

      • Salah says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 2:15 pm

        @dsinc

        We need to understand that Islam has been around for 14 centuries, it won’t disappear overnight. But, the signs of its demise are there for us to see; Muslims are turning away from Islam in huge numbers, violence is getting worse by the day (a dying beast is a dangerous one.) Even the Left is starting to wake up.
        As you say, all we need is a strong government able to fight back. We don’t have any, but that’s our problem. If we are unable to get rid of our PC elites, sooner or later we’ll have to pay a heavy price.
        We’ve already won the first round: the whole world is starting to realize that Islam is evil thanks to the internet and the likes of ISIS.
        We need to win the second round: actually do something about it.
        Make no mistake, the war against Islam must start here, at home, in our own backyards, against our own PC governments.
        Islam is dying, but we need to keep fighting untill we give it the final coup de grâce.

    • VictorMc says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:48 am

      Oh, I wish I could believe that.
      Why then can’t Jews live nor be ‘active’ in any one of the Islamic sandholes and filthy dumps that make up the M/E ?? Even the Bible is verboten in Arabia (never use the word ‘saudi’ it’s a family name) and non-Muslims use different traffic lanes/entrances and so on and on and on…. The ONLY place in the world Muslims are truly free is er……..Israel. About time Israel took a tougher line on those that they find treasonous. I have spoken to many Arab Israelis who are working providing for their families in Israel they would not want to live in any of the surround Muslim dumps.- The ones I’ve chatted with anyway and I speak the lingo. The rock throwing scum do not represent THEM in fact, the very opposite is the truth.

      • Salah says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 2:33 pm

        “The ones I’ve chatted with anyway and I speak the lingo. The rock throwing scum do not represent THEM in fact, the very opposite is the truth.”

        You’re absolutely right; most Muslims are fed up with these rock throwing scum and violent jihadists. Problem is, they need our help, a help that is not coming soon because of our PC traitors.
        Remember the Iranian uprising? we did nothing to help these guys.
        Remember the Turkish uprising? same thing, we did nothing there either.
        Remember the Egyptian uprising against the Muslim Brotherhood? the West stood WITH the Muslim Brotherhood. Fortunately the Egyptian people had it its way.
        Last week, the Islamic ruling party in Tunisia suffered a huge defeat and lost the elections.
        The average Muslim DO NOT want sharia (forget about the politically motivated “polls”.)

        • Jen says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 5:43 pm

          Sorry but Salah…You think we need to help people whose minds we cannot read, while wasting govt resources, curtailing our own rights and putting ourselves in an indefensible position that puts peoples’ safety at risk (this is what would happen based on some ideas you have proposed). Realism needs to form a core part of any strategy to tackle Islam. Our economies need to remain competitive as well (despite what some lefties who don’t understand business think), and Muslims have shown themselves to be a huge drain on our system. I have no idea how you think your various ideas are able to actually work in REALITY. Govts need to be sensible. If you want to help Muslims on ground level then fine, but don’t expect this at govt level because it’s suicidal thinking. I consider England to also be my country and looking at the state of it, there is no way we are going to want to mess around. I don’t accept your view regarding sharia and that most don’t want it. They may not want sharia in all its capacity, but they are still capable of being pro-Islam in other ways. A loyalty to Islam, however slight is not a good thing. Come to earth please.

        • Wolfgang says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 8:44 pm

          @Salah

          I don’t agree with most Muslims not wanting Sharia, why ? because show me mass demonstrations in the street’s against it ?, we just don’t see it.

  10. VictorMc says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 4:42 am

    I stopped taking the G******* 20 years ago and 10 years ago I deleted their (free) web site from my computer. They are the truly loony lefties from Islington and write this sickening anti-Semitic garbage every day.

    • Joginder Singh says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:44 am

      The only thing more infuriating about dealing with the guardian’s so-called jourobots and their planet sized egos is dealing with their peanut sized brains
      stopped reading Al-Guardian about 15 years ago and I have also been banned from their dreadful riddled with anti civilisation, west, Israel, pro islam Komment Macht Frei blog

  11. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 6:22 am

    Let Whitaker discover that the Koran is PART OF ISLAMIC LAW, and cannot be changed.
    Roll on the day.

  12. joeb says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 6:23 am

    If you go to the article, look at the comments. Still plenty of outraged leftists who think it’s all a big lie, and ISIS have been hard done by.

    this bloke may have to join bill maher on the leftist naughty step if he keeps it up…

  13. cesar bento says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 6:57 am

    It was the same in Europe, but 500 years ago….Peoples fight for different religeous orientations, following the Bible….
    Now finish the fight because noboy follows the bible….
    The same in Islam, while muslims follow what is in the satanic veses of Quran, the fight will go on… Muslims must throuh the Quran to trash…

    • Western Canadian says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 5:29 pm

      Your ignorance is showing.

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 8:46 pm

      @cesar bento

      Another prize idiot…..go dive under a bus somewhere…..

  14. Richard says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 7:41 am

    Thank god, is all I can say. Look people, if our society is going to stand up to this threat then it is imperative that the ‘leftist’ apologists are engaged and welcomed to the debate once they start to acknowledge the threat. No amount t of ‘I told you so, hippy’ is going to protect our society

  15. Ricardo Hotatio says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 8:14 am

    My comment at ‘The Guardian’:

    Is the author based on the content of his article, willing to acknowledge there is a fundamental and structural problem with Islam as a constituted ideology!? If so should this imply the end of politic correct journalism concerning Islam and the end of the abusive use of the term ‘Islamophobia’ to silence any form of legitimate criticism of Islam?
    “An ideology is a set of conscious and/or unconscious ideas which constitute one’s goals, expectations, and actions.”
    In the case of a religion you can add; ‘A concept based on a set of secure, defined, established and constituted set of statutes.’. On this bases you could say that any religion in its purest form is beyond criticism and this becomes a real problem when a religion is based on premisses which are a result of spiritual deception, which is the case with a false prophet. http://tinyurl.com/p87anhx

  16. jewdog says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 8:32 am

    Maybe JW should have an annual Sunspots Award to go to the most dramatically and unexpectedly enlightened dhimmi. This guy and Maher would be good nominees.
    I’d really flip if someone at the Guardian ever pointed out the possible absurdity and danger of a “Palestinian” state.

  17. Rezali Mehil says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 8:38 am

    It appears to me that the West *desperately* wants Islam to fail and fold….
    and so peoples have gone to lengths bringing forward the proofs that apostasy = death within Islam (Mr. Wolfgang being a case in point).

    When such a case happens as faithfully recorded by Mr.Spencer …the West steps in gives these regimes a way out …

    oh goody goody New Zealand /Canada et et al will take in the pathetic weak minded apostasy client….* why? why …why do you do this?

    YOU are the weak link in this process …why let them off the spot …let them carry out their law or not … you are not the parent here…Allah SWT is and he always decides …NOT you…what are you afraid of?

    This does not put me off Islam at all… Allah SWT will show us the way forward inshallah…why don’t YOU allow the question to be asked?

    More Later…

    Rezali

    • Jen says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 9:16 am

      It’s not just the West that wants Islam to fold, Rezali. People in countries all over the world want Islam to fold. It is killing people everywhere. How can you say that you aren’t put off by Islam?

      God and not Allah is the judge of all things. They are different beings Rezali.
      Here are passages to illustrate how different God (in Christianity) and Allah are:

      He said….

      Murder:
      21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder,[a] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister[b][c] will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’[d] is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

      ——————————-
      He said:

      3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
      for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      4 Blessed are those who mourn,
      for they will be comforted.
      5 Blessed are the meek,
      for they will inherit the earth.
      6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
      for they will be filled.
      7 Blessed are the merciful,
      for they will be shown mercy.
      8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
      for they will see God.
      9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
      for they will be called children of God.
      10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
      for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
      ——————–
      He said………
      14 “You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
      ——————-
      Love for Enemies:
      43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
      —————————-
      True and False Prophets:
      15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
      ————–
      Eye for Eye:
      38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

      • BC says

        Oct 31, 2014 at 6:30 am

        ‘god’ Jaweh, Allah it is all the same delusion

    • mortimer says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 9:25 am

      Islam will fail because Muslims will discover it has no historic basis. That is what YOU are afraid of, Rezali. There was no ‘Mohammed’ any more than there was a Robin Hood. Islam is a hoax.

      • Western Canadian says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 5:35 pm

        Actually, there are a small number of historical indicators that Robin Hood might have existed. Unlike for mad mo, who has no historical indicators at all….

    • Buraq says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      @ the benighted bint, Rezali ….

      Rezali, it’s only human nature to give shelter to those brutalized by Islam. Leaving them to the savagery of Shariah would certainly prove that Islam is a barbaric belief system, but the milk of human kindness trumps the desire to prove that clowns like you are Neanderthals.

      We know you’re clowns anyway, proof is not required.

    • Blitz2b says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm

      Rezali says “….This does not put me off Islam at all…”

      Why not Rezali? Even to this end you in your heart of hearts, must have realized the evil that is Islam, and how it is slowly but surely becoming apparent, even to the gullible west. How or what else would convince you that Islam is pure darkness, shall we count the ways?

      From your own Islamic sources, you are told of Islam’s demented founder Mohammed. The man was a war mongering, caravan raiding, booty stealing, slave usurping, child molesting, Jew beheading, wife stealing, marauding misogynist.

      Now thanks to ISIS members who are emulating these traits of your beloved prophet to the letter, as instructed by allah in the Koran, for all the world to see. Why does this still not “put you off”? What else needs to be done or said to convince you?

      We should ALL want this evil fascist ideology, impersonating as a religion to fold, if we are to survive as humankind. Islam must die in order for humanity to find peace.

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 30, 2014 at 2:05 pm

        You’re assuming that the repulsive rezali would want to recognise that ” islam is pure darkness”, and would therefore want to reject it.

        If you read his disgusting posts, ( he claims to be a ‘muslimah’ living in the UK, but I think he’s a male paki in pakistan) you will see how he is consistently an * advocate* for the evils of sharia/ islam. He has consistently defended all sorts of islamic filth, and contends it is the *murderers* of children who are to be pitied, *not* their victims.

        I’m afraid ‘rezali’ actually *revels * in evil, murder, islamic supremacy, and all the rest of the foul and evil crap spewed by mohammedans, and their disgusting koran. He is, so to speak, one of nature’s mohammedans. You won’t shame him.

        On the other hand, you can take the piss, with relish; he really *hates* that !

        When you’ve finished reading this, rezali, don’t forget to lock up the wifies, comb the old beard, and totter off to Syria, to help out your bros ! 🙂

    • Jen says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:13 pm

      Who is Rezali referring to when she says “weak minded apostasy client”?

      Is she referring to non-Muslims? This is a genuine question- what does Rezali mean by this?

      Whatever she means, this is coming from a woman who has submitted herself to a “religion” which blatantly calls for killing people.

      She tried to “explain away” or rationalize the stoning to death of her fellow Muslim woman by the woman’s own FATHER; a video of pure evil which we all saw the other day and which made most of us want to die inside. Now she’s commenting on NZ presumably because of my comments.

      I wonder if she read my/our response after calling us “hangers on”…Haha okay…Even though she makes a person with dementia look positively sane.

      • Jen says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 7:32 pm

        Okay, so let’s get this straight…

        Rezali wants us to LET them carry out their “laws”, and essentially not worry about it; regardless of people being killed, because “Allah” is the judge of all things. She has called us, the non-Muslims, the “weak link.” (For being worried and wanting to defend ourselves against the threat that Islam poses).

        Where is Rezali from originally? I know she’s in the UK, but is she from Iran? (She’s a Shia Muslim so perhaps).

        If Rezali is from Iran (or any other Muslim country for that matter), then what happened in her country? Rezali would prefer our country got overrun by Islam in the same way that her country did, even though her own ancestors were probably victims of Islamic violence which has now resulted in her being a Muslim woman today. Aaaand the end result of this is ….?

        Women being forced into marriage at a young age and giving birth to the child of their rapist at the age of 15 and 16, women sitting in prison on long sentences while waiting to be executed for defending themselves against rape, public hangings for offenses that no sane person would describe as a crime- let alone one worth being killed over, gay people being abused, women forced to conform to Islamic dress code…This is in addition to the world having to deal with the illogical Muslim logic as has been exhibited in the comments of Muslims who have posted on JW recently.

        Aaaand because Islam’s worldview doesn’t seem at all to value life on earth or support the idea of making the most of it; Rezali cannot understand *why* the INSANE! global community would want to protect themselves against this threat. After all, it’s all up to Allah and according to Rezali’s comment earlier “she doesn’t make the rules.” (We were talking about stoning women to death here).

        So no matter how barbaric and sick, the laws of Islam are, Rezali will not “let Islam down.” – Even when people are dying.

        It’s okay though. She hasn’t let Islam down- just the rest of humanity.

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 8:55 pm

      @Rezali

      Can you answer questions intelligently instead of ducking and weaving ? ( no of course not ! you are blinded by obfuscation ) by the way…..Islam is not going to fold, I didn’t imply that, I DO see that Islam will invade Israel in a very ,very near future event and your “Mahdi ” and your ” Issa ” will bring in the NWO . Yes that”s not that far off is it ?, but your blind subservience to a Demonic death worshiping 7th century belief will drag billions to a awful and despairing death and painful hell.

      In the meantime Muslims themselves don’t stop the blood shed or head cutting do they ? why not ?.

    • Richard says

      Oct 30, 2014 at 4:07 am

      F### off Realise you swivel eyed loon.

      Your adherence to medieval mumbo jumbo would be quaint if it wasn’t so dangerous.
      Our people and culture are fed up of your ranting cacophony of indoctrinated fools. Now you threaten 1000 years of our Renaissance and Enlightenment you have crossed the line. Your adherence to this oppressive apartheid and blind following of a book (s) written by self serving crack pots 1400 years ago is driving the planet to open religious war. You will not win this. Once the nations of civilization acknowledge the threat then expect the cruciform sword to shatter your scimitar and the mailed boot of progress, enlightenment and freedom to crush the throats of your ranting fanatics. You started this We will finish it.
      Oh, and whilst you are here can you explain to me why it is that the moment British jihadis to start speaking they do so with a south London accent even if they are from Birmingham? It’s pathetic.. Like watching a sick parody of Ali G.
      Well son, you and your ilk are in trouble now, if apologists like Whittaker are finally waking up to your rag head nonsense then it’s only a matter of time before our democracies stir themselves. Do not make the mistake Hitler did, just because after years of peace, democracy default is appeasement does not mean that you have a blank cheque. The scales will tip and once they do your medieval superstitious bills hit will be sent packing just as we have done to every threat to our freedoms in history. I suggest you reform yourself and accept the path of enlightenment or we will crush you.

  18. mortimer says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Exactly…all Islamic governments accept the principal of religious discrimination…it’s only a matter of degree…HOW MUCH discrimination is the right amount?

    Any Muslim who believes in Islam SHOULD accept religious discrimination as normative. If they do not, they are not following canonical Islam, but are ‘innovators’ or ‘deviationists’.

    Muslims are fundamentally opposed to democracy if it entails pluralism and secularism.

  19. steakman says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Well, sorry to burst the bubble of leftist enlightenment, but the Ottawa Citizen published on the day of Nathan Cirillo’s funeral, an oped by none other than Omar Khadr..a convicted terrorist.!

    • Ivan Bogdanov says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm

      I read the piece. It is unlikely Khadr wrote it as it is well written (from a grammar and language perspective requiring significant English language study). It is simply a whine and likely fronted by one of the CAIR-Canada, moslem brotherhood affiliated operatives. Not worth the digital space it takes up.

  20. tpellow says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    Many ‘Guardianista’ types on the political ‘left’ have utopian political fantasies about trying to turn the Islamic jihad barbarities of the present-day into a dreamworld 1930s ‘Spanish Civil War.’

    To appease Islamic interests, they turn the truth inside out and pretend the Islamic State’s barbaric, fascistic volunteers are some kind of ‘International Brigade’ fighting for democracy. The truth is, of course, that the islamic State and its barabaric jihadists are doing everything to oblitertate democracy by extreme violence.

  21. profitsbeard says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

    “What has Islam brought to the world except that which is evil ?” as Pope Benedict once quoted.

    The Sword of terrorizing theocratic conquest and the threat of murder to any Muslim who dares to leave the Mohammaden faith render Islam a Death Cult.

    None of its borrowed “good qualities” (plagiarized from Judaism and Gnostic Christianity) can compensate for this core monstrosity at its Koranic center.

    Until Islam lays down the Sword and renounces the death threat if you try to exit their cult, Islam shall be at war with Civilization.

    Since these horrors are its main methods of survival, it is unlikely to give up such compulsion -under threat of murder- to remain “Muslim” and homicidal terror to spread “Submission”.

    Free men and women must battle this evil until it surrenders these diseased dogmas, or is expunged from the Earth,.

  22. Tom Schaefer says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 4:07 pm

    Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Mark Styn, Pat Condell and the rest of the leadership of Western civilization are winning the battle of ideas! People are awaking from their slumber to see the anti-human Muslims (and perhaps even the communists) for what and who they are. An am so proud of them that their tireless efforts are prevailing. Someday, there will be a monument to these great people (that I hope I will be able to contribute to and take my kids to).

  23. tpellow says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 4:50 pm

    Another dangerous indication of how Guardianistas ‘think’ about Islamic jihad barbarians –

    “British jihadists in Syria cannot be compared to George Orwell and Laurie Lee”

    By Douglas Murray

    (Feb 2014)

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2014/02/british-jihadists-in-syria-cannot-be-compared-to-george-orwell-and-laurie-lee/

  24. voegelinian says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Isis’s readiness to execute people for their beliefs has parallels in six Arab countries – Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, the UAE and Yemen – where apostasy is a crime and in theory the death penalty can apply. Curiously, though, they seem reluctant to enforce it. No recent executions for apostasy have been reported in any of them and in Saudi Arabia there have been none for well over 20 years, according to the US state department.

    What about executions for blasphemy, witchcraft, homosexuality, adultery…? Those too indicate a fanaticism consanguineous with ISIS.

    (Secondly, I wouldn’t trust the US State Dept. for any useful information on Islam.)

  25. Lion Rampant says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 4:14 am

    I just read the article too and am recovering from an attack of the vapours.
    I will now put on my silk pyjamas , go down to the kichen and cook some thing sustaining, say bacon and eggs washed down with a bottle of beer and afterwards feed and pat the dog.
    What inspired this rush of blood to this journalist’s head ? This epiphany on the road to Damascus ? Maybe he met a group of ISists along the way.
    Hopefully this is catching.
    With regard to the Left, I have tended to the view that they see the growing threat of islam as an opportunity to either ;
    take over our societies after the fascists, democrats and muslims have pounded the snot out of each other or
    be portrayed as saviours when the decadent West with its inherent capitalist contradictions cannot control the growing spiral of violence arising from mulim immigration.
    It seems some of them are belatedly having second thoughts.
    Laissez les bon temps roulez.

  26. BC says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 6:28 am

    The write only mentions Arab states too. There are plenty of examples in Iran
    by the state and in Pakistan that paragon of an Islamic state dystopia, you are quite likely to be murdered by your own relatives or neighbours

  27. Roy Gal-Er says

    Jan 25, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    For those of you who are confused about Whitaker’s change of heart, i suggest that you read his book “What’s Really Wrong With the Middle East”. You won’t believe that the same Whitaker who wrote “Selective Memri” wrote a whole book that rips Arab culture to shreds.

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