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Hamas-linked CAIR “disappointed” that it failed to intimidate UC Berkeley into canceling Bill Maher appearance

Oct 30, 2014 5:53 pm By Robert Spencer

ZahraBillooBill Maher is going to speak at UC Berkeley, and the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is crestfallen that its fascist campaign to defame and destroy everyone who dares to speak the truth about Islam and jihad has failed this time. Said Hamas-linked CAIR’s Zahra Billoo: “While Mr. Maher has the right to speak whenever and wherever he likes, he does not have the right to have his hate-filled views honored and tacitly endorsed by a prestigious university.” In other words, we support the freedom of speech, as long as no one is able to listen.

Hamas-linked CAIR has been working for years to demonize, marginalize and silence anyone who tells the unpleasant truth about jihad terror and Islamic supremacism. After years of refusing to appear in television debates with me or other counter-jihad speakers, and demanding to be the only point of view featured (a demand to which that the mainstream networks usually acquiesced), Hamas-linked CAIR wrote this blisteringly ironic phrase in a communique today: “The anti-Islam crowd can’t stand it when they are not controlling the conversation…” Hamas-linked CAIR also openly revealed that it is determined to defame foes of jihad and shut down the freedom of speech about these issues, saying about their new defamation-and-smear clearinghouse: “This means that when someone who may think an Islamophobe is a legitimate speaker and searches for the person on the Internet, they will see the hatred that speaker or the group they represent espouses. This information is being used by our friends and allies to delegitimize bigots.” Translation: Hamas-linked CAIR has collected together all the lies and smears they’ve hurled over the years at foes of jihad terror — now you can use it to get them canceled from speaking engagements, so as to remove all opposition to the advance of jihad terror.

If Bill Maher doesn’t have an entry already, I am sure he will soon: Hamas-linked CAIR is acting just like the Nazi brownshirts, who would shout down and menace anti-Nazi speakers in Germany in the early 1930s. UC Berkeley didn’t kowtow to this intimidation this time. However, most do, as most event organizers are completely unprepared to deal with ginned-up “controversy,” and so immediately cave in to the demands of the pressure group. And so the spectrum of acceptable speech in the U.S. continues to narrow, as it did in Germany in the early 1930s.

“UC Berkeley student group votes to disinvite Bill Maher; college overturns it,” by Saeed Ahmed and Jacque Wilson, CNN, October 30, 2014:

…On Tuesday night, the student group that’s tasked with selecting commencement speakers met and voted to withdraw Maher’s invitation.

That would have been the end of the matter except the very next day, the college said it won’t honor the vote.

“This university has not in the past and will not in the future shy away from hosting speakers who some deem provocative,” the school said….

“The UC Berkeley administration cannot and will not accept this decision, which appears to have been based solely on Mr. Maher’s opinions and beliefs, which he conveyed through constitutionally protected speech,” the school said in a statement.

It added that the school’s decision shouldn’t be taken as an endorsement of Maher’s views. “Indeed, the administration’s position on Mr. Maher’s opinions and perspectives is irrelevant in this context.”

As so, it said, the invitation stands; Maher will speak at the December event.

The reaction

The Council on American-Islamic Relations expressed disappointment at the college’s ruling, saying it disrespected students “by casting aside the long-standing process for selecting commencement speakers and instead imposing its own will.

“While Mr. Maher has the right to speak whenever and wherever he likes, he does not have the right to have his hate-filled views honored and tacitly endorsed by a prestigious university,” said Zahra Billoo, of the group’s San Francisco chapter….

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:09 pm

    WHOA! You mean the students of Berkley are actually going to get a spoonful of truth about Islam shoved down their throats?!? ASTOUNDING!

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 30, 2014 at 6:20 pm

      Berkeley.

    • Kachina says

      Nov 3, 2014 at 10:03 am

      Taqiyya…. Don’t fall for the False Image they are attempting to portrait to Americans…

  2. Coolio says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:10 pm

    A major victory for free speech and the fight against jihad. Well done Berkley!

    • PGuud says

      Oct 30, 2014 at 11:26 pm

      No, not yet. Let’s see how it turns out, ’cause it ain’t over ’til it’s over.

      It would be a joyful occasion to see a concerted free-student effort to rout out the Muslim vermin from that campus–from every campus, for that matter.

      Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

      • Rob Porter says

        Oct 31, 2014 at 11:43 am

        The amazing part of CAIR’s and campaigns of other similar Islamic groups is the reality that Muslims manufactured the word “Islamophobia” in an effort to kill scrutiny and criticism of Islam and it’s utterly depraved and savage supremacist ways. Muslims alone are so afflicted by phobia over other religions, thus they are afflicted by Judeophobia, Christianophobia, Hinduphobia, Buddhaphobia and every other religious phobia known only to Muslim, yet these Muslim groups, disgusting liars, deceivers and bigots that they are barefacedly accuse, and get away with accusing non-Muslims of ‘Islamophobia’, and slander anyone who truthfully exposes – or teaches about – the appalling intolerance of Islam. At least Bill Maher calls them out on their mindless rubbish while the liberal/left media and politicians do not, even carry water for them by rationalizing or excusing their vile conduct.

        These Islamic supremacist groups, the degenerate filth of the earth, are the masters of lies and deception. In this regard it is now so evident what is occurring and yet the MSM both ignores and gets taken in by what should be evident to even the mentally handicapped.

        As Robert Spencer points out and has pointed out many times, Muslims are perpetrating their insane acts of brutality in the name of Islam and Islamic supremacy, quoting the Qur’an to confirm the ‘rightness’ of their actions, and yet the Western world largely does not want to see, even excuses their vile conduct. Never before have we seen such a failure of integrity, intellect and courage in the once free West.

        • Eric says

          Oct 31, 2014 at 1:16 pm

          Mohammadism is to a human what hydrophobia is to a dog. Paraphrase of Winston Churchhill.

  3. Denise the menace says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    Thank God UC Berkley doesn’t have its head up it’s A$$ like Yale. They banned Kirsi Ali from speaking. I mean if anyone has a right to speak out, it’s a woman who suffered FGM at the hands of this depraved lunacy called “religion”. Remember Jonestown and Rajneeshpurim. Islam isn’t the sole member of the bad ideas in society label, but at the moment it is number 1 on the top ten list. Robert I think it is hopeful that liberals are waking up to the threat against freedom from this mid evil nightmore. Thanks for the hard work!!

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    So what we have here is a guy whose career is marked by his aversion to addressing the facts around several major topics, at odds with the Hamas-linked agitprop organization for the sin of his touching on the most averse subject of all, Moslems, a subject that positively demands total aversion, as in mum’s the word, or else.

    One small step in a miles long journey to true free speech, made by a guy has no intention of putting himself into full fact mode. The Maher incident, with the egregious student body of all, the Berkley undergrads, is not the start of our society opening up to the truth. He’s just looking to maintain his credibility under the stress put on it lately by socialism’s failure in Europe and here, and whopping on the Moslems is always a sure thing. You go, Bill, maintain joe incredible credibility.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 7:58 pm

      “whopping on the Moslems is always a sure thing. You go, Bill, maintain joe incredible credibility.” TRANSLATION, PLEASE?

      What, exactly are YOU doing in opposing Islam?????

      • Julia says

        Nov 1, 2014 at 2:25 am

        I second that.

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    Congratulations to Berkley and its strong-minded board of governors.

    It seems that the Left still has not answered the question of whether Islam inherently promotes violence against disbelievers and women.

    Berkley has shown it at least has an open mind to the question.

    I hope people like Ben Affleck will DO THE HOMEWORK and discover that Islam indeed teaches violence against women and ‘others’.

  6. Jacksonl03 says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    I suspect, though I hope I’m wrong, that this isn’t over: Suppose CAIR, et al. can convince the students who voted against Maher to boycott the speech, or worse riot during the session?

    • Dhammarato says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 8:39 am

      Riot that would b wonderful show of their intentions a full blown riot that can not be kept off TV.

  7. Jaladhi says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:23 pm

    WOW!! UC Berkeley has developed spine !!! Hope this is contagious and other universities also tell CAIR to go fly a kite in Afghanistan, they are not needed here!!

    Lets see how the students behave during Mahers speech. I am sure they will try to disrupt it with the help of Muslim students!!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 11:11 pm

      If there are UC Berkeley alumni among the jihadwatchers here posting or lurking, this is their cue, now, in particular: to write to their alma mater and *commend* it for upholding the principle of freedom of speech.

      State that you are delighted that Mr Maher will be speaking as planned and that you are looking forward to finding out, in due time, what he had to say.

      Alumni matter because alumni make donations! (And alumni, sometimes, send their kids to the schools they themselves attended). So UC Berkeley will prick up its ears if they get a *lot* of letters from alumni who state that they expect that their alma mater will support free and critical inquiry and freedom of speech.

      And if you’re a jihadwatcher who lives within reach of the campus, keep your ears and eyes open. If you discover that an “anti-Bill Maher” demo is being mooted…get *all* your friends together and organise a **counter-demo**. Or…don’t wait for news of a protest.

      Organise your peaceful and festive on-campus “rally in celebration of free speech” NOW. Commencement is in December? Well, you’ve got a month to see what you can come up with. Nota bene: the tenth anniversary of the assassination and attempted beheading of that Dutch “blasphemer” of Islam, Theo Van Gogh, is *tomorrow*, 2 November.

      He was murdered on the 2nd November, the day of All Souls, 2004.

      It might be a good thing to remind people about him…and to also tell people the stories – straight from the canonical Islamic texts – of Asma Bint Marwan and Abu Afak, pagan Arab female protest-poet and elderly Jewish male protest-poet, who were asssassinated on Mohammed’s orders way back when Islam was just getting going. Just to drive home the point that when Bill Maher compared Islam to the mafia, he was hitting the nail fair and squarely on the head.

  8. mortimer says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    CAIR’s Zahra Billoo defends misogyny, religious persecution, cruel punishments, political supremacism, theocratic fascism and obscurantism.

    Biloo, do you never feel you need a shower after a day telling lies for CAIR?

    • susanp says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 12:02 am

      Mortimer, I fully expect them to change their minds before this is over. The precious muslims will pout, rant, rage, threaten, whine, and passionately express the usual islamic histrionics. This pathetic excuse for a pious muslima is not only homely, she is a self-hating twit. If she doesn’t like university policy, she should get the hell out; it’s not like our universities are kept afloat by muslim tuition.

      If they don’t cave and cancel Maher’s appearance, they will allow the muslim thugs to interrupt and disrupt his speech, ruining it for everyone else. That’s the new normal at American universities and I fully expect the faculty to participate in the protests.

    • Judi says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 8:26 am

      Doncha think she’s a ‘babe’! Is she entering the Miss America contest this year?

      • WCM says

        Oct 31, 2014 at 11:53 am

        This one certainly needs to reverse her headscarf. Or wear the Full-Monty Niqaab or Burqa, if only to spare us (who are males) from her “beauty” so we do not go into “full rut” and attempt to copulate with nearby furniture.

        • BlueRaven says

          Oct 31, 2014 at 5:24 pm

          Definitely… LOL..

      • JIMJFOX says

        Oct 31, 2014 at 10:38 pm

        “Whenever his wives were in their menstruation, I saw the Messenger of Allah often near his camel herd. There, he made loving contact with the females, but sometimes also turned to the young animals of both sexes.”
        – Sahih Al-Bukhari 2;357

        Those cute young camels!! Poor Billoo just can’t compete…

      • Bronson says

        Nov 1, 2014 at 8:30 pm

        She’s no beauty that’s for sure. Butt ugly really. So why the headscarf? Would seeing her without her hair covered send males in a fit of sexual lust and want them to rape her? Well maybe there would be the odd muslim male who would find her more attractive than his camel.

        This is the whole thing about Muslima’s covering there hair. None of them are worth a second look but it enables them to kid themselves that they are raving beauties.

  9. Salah says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    One more reason to be optimistic. As long as we still have a handful of honest, courageous, impartial and dedicated citizens, there is still hope.
    Petro dollars did us a lot of harm, they’ve bought a lot of our elites. The good news is: They can’t buy them all.

  10. Marken says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    Cair’s rallying dhimmis to mindlessly chant hate, bigot, ignorance is weakening in effect. Yesterday the founder of UW Green Bay’s MSA failed to destroy a local politician’s career and reputation after he asked her to disassociate herself from Hamas and sharia. Her response was to release the mindless barking hounds. Such an ugly and un-American tactic. Lesson: shame the dhimmis and take a higher moral ground. Don’t waste energy with facts or persuasion.

  11. joeb says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    I see Bill Maher has now made CAIR’s newly published ‘kill list’, the handy ‘ready reckoner’ for Jihadists…

  12. somehistory says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    And just from where does this billoo person think *rights* originate so that she can say who does or does not have a *right*?
    “he does not have the right to have his hate-filled views honored and tacitly endorsed by a prestigious university,” said Zahra Billoo, ”

    It is also the *right* of the university to have him speak. billoo can just boohoo and see if the rest of us care.

  13. IQ al Rassooli says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    Zahra Billoo is as knowledgeable of her Quran as a pig regarding the science of personal hygiene

    All any Quran informed person should have asked this retard (or any ‘offended’ Muslim) the following:

    It is obvious that you are wearing a Hijab because you are Sharia compliant

    BUT as a Sharia compliant Muslima (female Muslim) you are FORBIDDEN by Sharia from ever being LOYAL to the American constitution because it is Man made NOT from Allah NOR can you ever be LOYAL to none Muslim Americans (97% of Americans) because they are Kuffar/ Infidels

    Since all the above represent the ultimate degrees of RACISM & HATE how DARE you complain about Mr Maher for pointing ONLY the FACTS?

    Case CLOSED!

    IQ al Rassooli

    • john spielman says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 8:32 am

      not only that, but she is NOT allowed to be even out of her house much less attend University -without her husbands or close male relatives being in attendance!

      • Julia says

        Oct 31, 2014 at 12:47 pm

        It’s deeply offensive that women living under Muslim laws are not allowed to go out in public without a male escort, but there is a practical side. With rape being so prevalent in these cultures, I don’t think I would want to leave the house without body guards or a gun or at the very least, a male escort.

        • Dwight Hogg says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 6:05 am

          Especially if you are a pre-pubescent boy

  14. RonaldB says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    I think the decision to override the student withdrawal as an instance of a free society reasserting itself as a society.

    The UC Berkeley administration may or may not appreciate the value of diverse and uncensored expression of opinion. But, being adults and not connected with the Obama administration would certainly appreciate the blow back that would occur if Bill Maher were invited, and then DISINVITED due to organized pressure. It would make national headlines without a doubt.

    Again, the most important thing about this episode is that it shows a normal feedback process asserting itself. The kind of filtering process that occurred with Ali Hirsi and the fiasco at Brandeis seems to be becoming unacceptable.

  15. Liza Jones says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    It’s a small victory but an important one. Glad to hear this.

  16. Wellington says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 8:44 pm

    Good. A small victory to be sure.

    But I hope Bill Maher has done a lot of further quick study of Islam before he speaks. I also hope he doesn’t feel compelled to backpeddle on his statements about Islam in an effort to “win back” liberal friends and associates (such as engaging in your standard and fallacious tu quoque arguments by bringing up all religion in order to appear “fair” about any criticism of Islam).

    His gut instincts about Islam are correct but he is not yet knowledgeable enough to defend these instincts with any kind of devastating clarity and precision. He needs to work on this and I think he’s smart enough to do this. After all, if one is going to take on Communism or Nazism, two other totalitairan ideologies, it would be foolish not to immerse oneself in the Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital or Mein Kampf and the writings of those who defended such works.

    Knowledge is power. It is virtually never needed more than when confronting totalitarian ideologies like Marxism, fascism and Islam; when confronting enemies of liberty, which Marxism, fascism and Islam surely are. Let’s hope Maher grasps all this.

  17. R Cole says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    They are not only trying to “remove all opposition to the advance of jihad terror” – but to Islamization.

    Many Muslims talk in terms of someone being an ‘enemy of Islam’. Christianity doesn’t have this concept.

    So conditioned – they wish Islam to be treated as if it is a real being.

    More, their desire to silence others is an extension of their own fear. They know the penalty for falling into that ‘enemies of Islam’ category. That this terror was first enacted on them – on their psyche.

    Where they are emboldened is that they become the ones who can exercise that fear or control over others.

    It is an abusive pattern of behavior – that should actively be discouraged.

    ::

    If Islam were purely a religious matter – why would we be interested?

    There is almost no part of the world that isn’t being affected by – what Islam wants / believes it should have — and does on a daily basis.

    All who challenge these – become the ‘enemies of Islam’ – ‘Islamophobes’ here in the west.

    ::

    Debate on Islam in the Muslim world – is muted at best.

    One example was a debate – on Gulf Arab TV [not Arabia] – with a mixed audience – and the topic was on whether a man had the right to beat his wife. [no kidding] And what was amazing – how constrained the women’s responses were – that they could not say outright how outrageous the idea was. But you could see it on some of their faces.

    I don’t think Muslims get the concept of debate.

    If you look at Al Jazeera – and other Arab TV – the guest is often allowed to go on and on – making the most preposterous statements – unchallenged. [Part no doubt cultural politeness, part machismo and – part unreal – usually they are taking about Israel /the west – and then turn around and have a revolution in their own countries – having never said a word about – prior to that]

    ::

    On so many levels Muslim ideas on the nature of debate and free discourse are completely skewed.

    We not only have the freedom to speak – there is also freedom of thought – something that prominent Muslim leaders have rallied against – in favor of the supremacy of ‘Islamic thought’.

  18. PJG says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    For now we can cheer the university for not backing down under pressure, but that probably means the pressure on Bill Maher himself will be ramped up.
    Will he succumb to that pressure, that is the question. There is just a tiny, tiny possibility that he might be “pressured” in ways he finds hard to ignore.

  19. Milo Savich says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    What I find astonishing is that UC Berkeley was the site where the Free Speech Movement was born in the 1960s. Does anyone at all remember Mario Savio? He stands in stark contrast to CAIR’s reprehensible behavior, as well as to the student body’s pathetic vote. Their vote is a barometer that shows how low today’s students have fallen, and how little can be expected from them in taking a principled counter-jihad stance — not to mention the unquestioning defense of free speech.

  20. gerard says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Encouraging news. Maybe the behaviour of IS is tweeking a conscience or two? I shall be praying for Bill Maher.

  21. Dave J says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 10:26 pm

    I believe it was not the ‘student body” that proposed banning Maher, but rather 2 Muslim students who took it upon themselves to start a petition.

    Because they are superior creatures and highly sensitive to factual matters.

    This is what they want: to control free speech and place themselves above all others. No non-Muslim may criticize a Muslim yet the reverse is fine, routine in fact. Islam is a one way street straight to hell.

  22. gp says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 12:42 am

    Hamas-linked CAIR “disappointed”-

    Their disappointment is a blessing for society.

  23. Steffen Larsen says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 5:12 am

    She does look and sound like a true slave of Allah, doesn’t she?

  24. Allan Mandrowski says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 5:16 am

    Glad to read about Berkeley growing a spine in this case.

    It’s organisations such as CAIR that need to be shunned. They are a prime source of intimidation, curbing freedom of speech and promoting violence against anyone who dares to legitimately criticise islam.

  25. Islam_Macht_Frei says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 6:58 am

    I haven’t seen any comments on the real irony here – Berkeley was the cradle of the “Free Speech Movement” where students opposed the university’s heavy-handedness. My how times have changed (thank you Islam)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement

  26. Frank Courtney says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Joseph Goebbels would have been a proud admirer of CAIR.

    • Allan Mandrowski says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 8:41 am

      Islam and Nazism have a lot in common. Aren’t those non-Muslims who defend Islam just collaborators with the enemy. Most of them probably don’t even realise it themselves, all caught up in the web of political correctness and “multiculturalism”.

      Ironically enough, were their beloved islam to dominate over them, there would be little left of other cultures than islam.

  27. Darren says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 11:44 am

    Note to the NSA FBI CIA Homeland Insecurity did you know CAIR is a stealth jihadist group engaging in stealth jihad? Quit surfing porn web sites at work and do your job.

  28. manuel-rafael says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 12:05 pm

    CAIR // LINKED TO // IS A NARRATIVE THAT IS REDUNDANTLY MISLEADING THE MOSLEM BROTHERHOOD’S STEALTH JIHAD FROM THEIR 1928 CHARTER DEALT WITH THE COVERT //OVERT STEALTH MARKETING OF THE ISLAMIISM OF THE ARAB NAZI PARTY, THE IKHWAN IS THE CAIR // HAMAS //FATAH AND AL’WTF FITS THE REGIONAL NEEDS AND NAME OF THE TERROR NETWORK OF ENEMIES OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD, THESE ARE MOVEMENTS COORDINATED FROM QATAR, IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THE QATARI INVOLVEMENT IS PARAMOUNT FOR ITS FUNDING ABILITIES THROUGH THE “TERROR HIGH COMMAND” THAT IS DOHA, BOKO HARAM WAS FUNDED AS A MONEY MAKING OPERATION TO PROVIDE “BREEDER STOCK” AND THE MONEY LAUNDERING CAPABILITIES FOR QATAR, TURKEY AND TO DESTABILIZE AFRICA. CAIR IS THE PROPAGANDA MINISTRY OF THE MOSLEM BROTHERHOOD ALONG WITH A MULTIPLICITY OF CONNECTED “GOOD WILL” EDUCATIONAL AND SOCIAL ORGANIZATIONS IN UNIVERSITIES, HEALTH AND GOVERNMENT UNIONS TO CREATE AN ANARCHIC STATE RESIGNED TO BE STATELESS, COMPLIANT, SUBJUGATED TO THE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS OF THE ANARCHIC ISLAMIC STATE.

    • Western Canadian says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 12:09 am

      There is a key on your computer keyboard, which is called the ‘caps lock’. Yours seems to be stuck on. Fix it.

  29. Gary Fouse says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Billoo is the same person who dragged out those posters in SF urging Muslims not to talk to the FBI. When she spoke at Islam awareness week at UC Irvine a couple of years ago trying to promote Islam, she was at least honest enough to reply to my question and say that the penalty for adultery was death by stoning-for both men and women, mind you.

  30. abad says

    Oct 31, 2014 at 3:38 pm

    I am actually impressed! UC Berkeley not kowtowing to Islam? By George there is some hope yet. And it is academia where the truth about Islam needs to start.

  31. Danusha Goska says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 8:36 am

    A Facebook friend pointed out to me that the woman pictured, above, Zahra Billoo, bears more than a passing resemblance to Fred Armisen of Saturday Night Live. Has anyone ever seen both of them in the same room?

  32. Anon says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    “…who ever told you, you only had to hear what didn’t upset you…”

    At the 2:19 mark.

    Bill Maher Responds to UC Berkeley Petition

  33. Kathy Brown, Esq. says

    Nov 3, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    My oh my. That baghead above certainly is a looker.

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