This whole Bill Maher controversy is as illuminating as it is entertaining. The way that Leftists and Islamic supremacists operate in order to demonize and destroy anyone who dares speak the truth about Islam and jihad is on full display: first, they claim that someone who points out that Islam has doctrines encouraging violence and supremacism is “calling all Muslims terrorists” and charge him or her with racism and bigotry. Then they proceed as if those charges are already established as true, and demand that the truth-teller be denied a platform, canceled from speaking engagements, etc., because of this racism and bigotry.
The next step, if the Islamic supremacist campaign to get Maher disinvited from Berkeley succeeds, will be to use their victory as evidence of the correctness of their claims, when in fact it is only evidence that many event organizers and public officials don’t like controversy and will make whatever concessions they need to make so as to avoid it. If the campaign succeeds, then a few months from now, when Hamas-linked CAIR is trying to get Maher canceled from some other event, “Honest Ibe” Hooper will say, “The University of California at Berkeley was so disgusted with Maher’s bigotry that they canceled his planned appearance as their fall commencement speaker…” Then a few more cancellations, and it will look as if all decent folk are shunning Maher out of disgust with his “hatred,” when all that is really going on is the victory of Hamas-linked CAIR’s intimidation and smear tactics.
“CAIR Spokesman Compares Bill Maher To ‘Grand Dragon Of The KKK’ [VIDEO],” by Alex Griswold, Daily Caller, October 28, 2014:
In a heated debate on MSNBC with free speech advocate Greg Lukianoff, CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper defended UC Berkeley students’ efforts to uninvite comedian Bill Maher for his comments on Islam, comparing him to the Grand Dragon of the KKK.
LUKIANOFF: The fact that people so vehemently disagree with him is the more reason to hear him out. It’s an art that I feel is actually being lost on the campuses, where we should be teaching people is to at least hear people out before you to get them kicked off campus.
HOOPER: So if they invited the Grand Dragon of the KKK…
(CROSSTALK)
LUKIANOFF: So Bill Maher is the Grand Dragon of the KKK? I can’t until Bill Maher hears that. I think Bill will have a heyday with that.
HOST TAMRON HALL: We know that’s not what he’s saying, Greg.
HOOPER: We’re saying it can never be challenged… That’s a form of extremism on its own.
(CROSSTALK)
HALL: Let’s be clear. I know you know he’s not saying that. He’s not saying Bill Maher is the Grand Dragon…
…
HOOPER: [Bill Maher’s] called for racial profiling.
LUKIANOFF: I mean, it’s just amazing in the debates how quickly speakers are likened to Hitler and the Grand Dragon of the KKK.
HOOPER: I was using that as an example of somebody, would you endorse having that person speak and say nothing about it? If they were spewing the kind of things that the KKK or a rabid anti-Semite?
IQ al Rassooli says
Hooper, like ALL Muslims & their apologists is a Hypocritical & Duplicitous Pathological Liar, a clone of his mentor Muhammad bin abd Allah
NEVER in the long 1400 years history of Arab-Islamic IMPERIALISM have Muslims ever been VICTIMS!
It was only after 350 years of JIHAD against Christians that the Pope decided enough is enough and declared the Crusades
The Duplicity Mendacity Hypocrisy Cowardice and Racism of Muslims are so egregious they boggle the mind
Arabs & Muslims had subjugated hundreds of millions of people on three continents for 1400 years
Muslims slaughtered 110 million Hindus, 140 million Africans, tens of millions of Christians, Buddhists & Jews and yet they claim VICTIM-HOOD!
Muslims demand their rights in our democracies while they undermine our freedoms BUT allow no freedom to any none Muslims in their depraved Sharia compliant countries
Every Mosque and Madrassah (Islamic religious school) should be monitored because these are the institutions that brain wash the minds of young Muslims to hate the very countries and peoples that give them shelter and dignity
Muslims are the “enemy within” NOT because they are evil but because this is exactly what they are mandated to follow by their god Allah
I wish CAIR would SUE me for RACISM!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Beagle says
Unless you move out of the United States, truth is a defense. I don’t see a lawsuit in your future. Moreover, CAIR does not want any discovery given they act as a conduit for foreign money to US politicians, mainly Democrats.
jihad3tracker says
Hello IQ —
Your are one of the counter-jihad pillars that undergird RS’s superb blog here; every time you post an item, my knowledge deepens.
Huck Folder says
I refer to the five pillocks of islam.
jihad3tracker says
HELLO TO “HONEST IBE” — as Robert Spencer calls him — HOOPER ! ! !
I always give a shout to you and your fellow salamanders, coming out of swamp muck if a truth teller like Bill Maher does not swallow Islamophobia Kool-Aid, and instead mobilizes a liter or two of good old fashioned testosterone.
EVENTS JUST ARE NOT GOING YOUR WAY LATELY, ARE THEY ? That old cliché, “If it weren’t for bad luck you wouldn’t have any luck at all” seems to apply currently.
There is one practical action CAIR’s staff could undertake if they weren’t in fact cowards who talk tough but are afraid to risk harm : GO TO SYRIA ! FIGHT FOR THE PATHOLOGY OF YOUR IDEAL MAN. THERE ARE VIRGINS AWAITING.
Or do you just care about that fat paycheck in blood money, eating well, wearing spiffy duds, and watching premium cable ? I thing JW readers know that answer . . .
john spielman says
AMAZING, just give ole “honest Abe”(Ibe) Hooper enough rope and he will hang himself!
If anything is like the KKK it is islam and its defenders like ole honest Ibe Hooper who favor sharia law that would kill someone like me for speaking ill of muhammed pbuh* -that long dead decayed false prophet, mass murderer, thief liar misogynist and pedophile founder of that demon inspired religion of islam and its false god Allah/Satan!
*pbuh- perptual banishment unto hell!
Greyhound Fancier says
The KKK is actually less harmful than Islam. They are evil, but their crimes are dwarfed by the monstrosity of Islam. The KKK can only wish to be as hate-filled and murderous as Islam.
Beagle says
Remarkable how Hall jumps in to defend Hooper and the Left’s one true established religion of Islam. She asserts that what Dishonest Ibe said is not what he meant to say. Then Hall, seamlessly, blithely unaware of the absurdity, goes on through dishonest word substitution to accuse Maher of racism thus validating Ibe’s original absurd comparison.
The problem with “substituting black for Islam” is as usual that (here) Maher was not talking about an immutable characteristic like skin color, but an ideology anyone can adopt like Islam. This deflection into racism as a proxy for a mode of thought is one of many amazingly successful soldiers in the army of logical fallacies the Left deploys to defend the honor of their favorite religion.
jihad3tracker says
Thanks again, Beagle, for another skewering of what we constantly see and hear by MSM host & moderator cretins, who cannot seem to linearly reason their way out of a paper bag.
My OWN response to Hooper’s expected dodge of inserting an extremely ideological person in Maher’s place (this time it’s the Grand Dragon of the KKK) would be :
“OF COURSE HE CAN COME AND SPEAK. Then there will be a question / answer session. Do you believe that students on this campus cannot see the sickness of such a person, demolishing his remarks with oppositional truth?”
voegelinian says
“This deflection into racism as a proxy for a mode of thought is one of many amazingly successful soldiers in the army of logical fallacies the Left deploys to defend the honor of their favorite religion.”
That may well be, but it’s not going to go away by simply pointing out logic; the PC MCs and Leftists (two distinct though related worldviews) are not being illogical — they are being irrational. Even a madman or someone afflicted with OCD can be quite logical, even as they pursue a goal that is irrational. The logic of PC MC & Leftism in this regard stems from the inference they make that to impugn Islam too deeply would lead to demagoguery and policies that would in turn with a broad brush impinge upon all Muslims — and they are correct in that all Muslims do adore Islam (which of course includes Mohammed and Allah and the Koran).
Where the PC MCs & Leftists veer into irrationality is not only in their refusal to impugn Islam, but also their refusal to condemn all Muslims (an irrationality shared by the Jihad Watch Softies, ironically), and more pertinently in this regard, in their anxious extrapolation into assuming bigoted and racist motivations on the part of those (even fellow libtards like Maher) waking up and sounding the alarm about Islam.
Jay Boo says
Excellent comment Beagle
Really well done
Wellington says
A major irony here is that the KKK, disreputable organization that it surely is, poses an almost infinitely lesser threat to fundamental American freedoms than does the Islamic faith. And so CAIR, a rank apologist for the spiritual fascism which is Islam, here by way of its deceptive and obnoxious spokesman, Ibrahim Hooper, should actually be considered a much greater threat to the American Constitution and the liberties assured by it than should the Grand Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and his bogus organization.
Am I saying that Ibrahim Hooper is more of a menace to the Constitution than is the Grand Imperial Wizard of the KKK? You bet I am. That’s right, Hooper. You’re worse for America than the leader of the KKK. Difficult to do, but you’ve managed it.
Julia says
I hope a counter petition to keep Bill Maher’s speaking engagement is circulating as well. It’s reprehensible the way CAIR can so easily “take people out” by smearing the good names of their critics and sabotaging their credibility. They truly are the mafia! How is it that a group that is clearly linked to a terrorist organization can take the moral high ground and people buy into it? The world is much more gullible than I realized.
Greyhound Fancier says
I think it’s because people sensibly fear Muslims (who wouldn’t, seeing all the horror, destruction, rape, stoning, murder, pillage, and general mayhem that Muslims are responsible for) and don’t want to get in any controversy that involves them.
It is truly the Mafia of “religions”.
Julia says
You’re right. It’s a kind of mass Stockholm syndrome. People are sympathizing with and defending their attackers instead of standing up to them. It’s a dangerous reaction, but very human.
Henry says
How long is this charade going to go on? CAIR, the Quran, and the Hamas Charter are amongst the vilest spewers of Jew hatred on the planet!
Dave J says
Were it possible to have Hitler or the leader of the KKK speak I’d be all for it. Exposure to the sunlight of reason is the one thing that discredits and reveals the true fascist nature of such people.
This is why no true Islamist is willing to openly debate people like Bill Maher or Robert Spencer.
BTW, the dream candidates for 2016 are Elizabeth Warren/Bill Maher. The “truth ticket”.
wildjew says
Hooper said: “I was using (the Grand Dragon of the KKK) as an example of somebody, would you endorse having that person speak and say nothing about it? If they were spewing the kind of things that the KKK or a rabid anti-Semite?”
If accurate, Bill Maher “was raised in his Irish American father’s Catholic religion, unaware, until his early teens, that his Hungarian American mother was Jewish.”
Just as Barack Obama is Muslim according to Islamic law because his father was Muslim, Bill Maher is a Jew according to Jewish law because his mother was Jewish.”
Traditional Muslims, like former Egyptian (Muslim Brotherhood) President Mohamad Morsi, believe the Jews are the sons of apes and pigs; bloodsuckers. Maybe Bill Maher should stoop to Hooper’s level and call him a base anti-Semite?
Julia says
Wow! You’re a great strategist. I think it would work if Maher’s friends started that banter, but Maher’s entire shtick is based on being a liberal atheist who can’t stand any religion, but especially hates Islam. If he suddenly identified as a persecuted Jewish man, hahahaha. I can’t see that happening, not in any universe, but his friends should speculate about that to the media.
Jovial Joe says
‘If you can convert to it, it’s not a race’ – my latest favourite catch phrase, borrowed off the net. And for any muslim pedants, substitute ‘revert’ for ‘convert’ and it still stands.
Bezelel says
I heard that “race card” too. I actually don’t know the details of the KKK credo but I imagine hooper has more in common with them that Bill.
R Cole says
I’ve never heard Bill Maher attack one single Muslim!
But what rolls off these Muslims’ lips is quite the opposite.
Their comeback time and time again – is to attack the individual.
:: ::
KKK vs Muslim Supremacists Attacking Churches [in Egypt]
We have people beheading people in the name of Islam and the Koran calls for beheadings – but these Muslim groups want you to say — at least here in the west where Islam is attempting to make inroads – that the Koran doesn’t command such things – where in the Islamic world you would be laughed off the stage – for saying the same .
Repeat what you hear on the most tightly state controlled media in the world – Arab TV – said about Islam – over here – and you will not find a willing and eager audience – such as across the Islamic world – but condemnation – and charges of racism and Islamophobia – and I suppose Abe thought he might try the ‘KKK’ this time round – rather than the over used Nazi comparison.
Islam’s Private Plots
So it’s clear – what CAIR is trying to establish – is the right of Muslims to – say these things written in the Koran and spoken openly on Arab/language TV – to be kept private – and spoken only among a Muslim audience. Like the way it was before Sept 11!
So how is it they can go back to their open plotting – to make Islam the authority in the land – privately?
Any good battle plan needs enemies – challengers or enemies of Islam are to be labeled ‘Islamophobes’. [Including moderates who are against Islamic law and former Muslims who share with non-Muslims what they had been taught.]
Establish clear hierarchy based on religious privilege: –
Where we voluntarily set up a de facto Dhimmi system – [it is not possible to be equal to a Muslims under Islamic law] – under which it is assumed that these Muslim groups will stop making demands:
It’s a Warning to Bill Maher but he is not the first on the Left to suffer Islam’s wrath.
Leftist Journalist Stoned By Muslims:
A left-leaning journalist from Denmark [other northern European country] who always penned articles that were in favor of the Muslim community and Islam – but one day after something occurred – in pretty much the same – reaching out way – he wrote an article suggesting that perhaps local Muslims should take more responsibility – for their actions/ in the matter at hand.
Shortly after – he is walking home – and feels something hit his jacket. Then he feels it again. He realized that local Muslim youths were pelting him with rocks. This after a local Imam – complained in a sermon about his article. He now believes – that the Muslim campaigns of violence in European cities are being directed by the Imams. He thinks they can start them – just as easy they can stop it.
::
The imposition of Islamic rule for the non-Muslim – is easier to understand if you think in terms of the mafia. And what happens to those who show disrespect!
Xero_G says
Bill Maher compared Jihadists to the Mafia. How dare he disparage all Italians? The vast majority of Italians do not “whack” their adversaries. It’s only a small percentage of poor, uneducated, deranged Italians who have twisted and perverted Italian criminal law for their own violent ends. Italian culture is the Culture of Peace. Any contrary claims are lies, misinterpretations, or taken out of context. To fully understand Italian culture, you must read Italian history in it’s original (Italian) language to fully comprehend the nuances.
The Italian Student Association is outraged and is circulating a petition to condemn Maher’s overt racism and to ban him from Pizza Parlours.
marc says
This method of shutting down any discussion is as old as, well as old as Usenet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
There is no way forward when someone has played the “your a nazi” card, he obviously has no real argument.
Brian Hoff says
Here is than video from the Young Truk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wZAsS0X5xE&feature=youtu.be.
Darren says
CAIR engaging in stealth jihad ho hum paging the nsa do your job paging the FBI CAIR is affiliated with Hamas. I guess they are too busy being taught by muslim brotherhood appointed islamic studies and diversity teachers training them on the inner workings of islam. Our government is a parody of itself, it would be funny if it didn’t effect and endanger so many lives. If anyone from the government happens to read this do 3 islam is peaceful workbooks and watch a few videos on inter faith outreach and you will be forgiven my son.
wakeup333 says
Watch Tom Trento’s new short showing CAIR founders’ criminal record and court-documented proof CAIR is Hamas:
CAIR is Hamas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjizRaXMwsk
Send this link to MSNBC & ask them WHY they give CAIR air time when CAIR is a court-proven agent of foreign terrorists!
Brian Hoff says
Turkey Parliament vote to declare war on IS Turkey is carrying out bombing of IS and CAIR donot approval of any terrorist act the FOX(better know as FAUX NEW) doesnot air this. Bill O’Reilly need to comtend himself for encoughting the murber of that arothion doctor.
gp says
Last week was a tough week to be a muslim apologist. Right Haji?
gp says
A warning to all infidels:
We will fight the infidel to the death!
-Meanwhile American Laws will protect us
-Democrats and leftists will support us
-NGO’s will legitimize us
-CAIR will incubate us
-The ACLU will empower us
-Western Universities will educate us
-Mosques will shelter us
-OPEC will finance us
-Hollywood will love us
-And the UN will cover our asses
http://www.siotw.org/news_engl…
wakeup333 says
Your link doesn’t work.
Here’s the warning link:
http://www.siotw.org/modules/news_english/item.php?itemid=777
sidney penny says
Question for Robert.
Is there a limit to free speech?
Often given example is yelling fire in a cinema when there is no fire.
Would you restrict persons giving talks on campus if they have been advocating violence before?
Violence is easily defined.
“Free Speech, Not Hate Speech”:
Yes I agree you cannot restrict free speech based on “hate speech”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/cal-poly-free-speech-under-attack-in-academia
See at 200.39 almost at the end.
what is hate speech?who decides? how will they decide it?
““hate speech” is in the eye of the beholder, and the one who is granted the power to determine what is or isn’t “hate speech” has been given extraordinary control over the public discourse, such that any opinions disliked by the ruling elite can be stigmatized and ruled out of bounds by means of this label.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/uc-berkeley-muslim-students-launch-campaign-to-get-bill-maher-canceled-as-speaker-at-fall-commencement
Jacko says
In our current air war against the islamonazis of ISIS, we should be sending a couple hellfires or JDAMs to service CAIR’s offices and leadership. After all, they are the propaganda arm of the worldwide jihadist movement and therefore a legitimate military target.
Luciano says
Ibrahim Hooper is on tape saying that he would like to see the American Constitution replaced by Sharia! Hooper and CARE are enemies of America but friends with this Administration. Go figure. Perhaps there is a Trojan Horse in Washington DC????
Bezelel says
obola is on video saying that the Constitution is flawed.
RickMT says
I once asked Dish Satellite to drop a free subscription to Home Box Office after watching Bill Maher. Now I suddenly have a change of heart.
Is it worth the trouble having muslims in this county? I don’t think so. Cultural diversity does not mean we have to accept people who despise us and dance when their cousins fly aircraft into our buildings. It may take a civil war, but they will go in end
williamharvey457 says
williamharvey457, on October 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM said: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
The Last contact I had with the”Islamists” was from ISNA.
FYI: I sometimes Email the White House and Politicians as WELL as the Islamic Organizations, and their Supporters, with my Comments.
I Emailed ISNA, ICNA, CAIR, etc. with DATAILED/DOCUMENTED information, which I have Detailed Copies of (based on their Website’s Posted “Invitation and ‘Send Comments’ Links” as to the Lies that the Islamists are spreading about the “Religion of Peace”, and The Islamist\Jihadists “Stealth Jihad” on America, and I was Polite, expressing it as “My Personal\Opinion\Comment” IN WRITING.
The last Email I sent before receiving THIS, was my Comments on the Article “Muslim convert’ beheads woman in U.S. heartland” http://www.wnd.com/2014/09/woman-beheaded-in-oklahoma-workplace/
Based on ISNA’s Email “Threat”, I have therefor ceased sending Emails to ALL Islamic Organizations.
Guess I am this “Infidel” who is “Getting to the Islamists” with The Truth and the Facts, as per the Email I jReceived from ISNA (below).
Welllll – they can just give their “Best Shot”, i say “Bring it On”. __________
Date: September 27, 2014 1:05:46 AM MDT From: ehopida@isna.net To: “William Lucas Harvey Jr.” Subject: Stop emailing ISNA
From: ehopida@isna.net Subject: It is not a threat. It is the law. This is unwanted spam and harassing email. So remove us from your “list.” Your opinion is neither welcomed nor solicited by us. Stop emailing ISNA or we will notify law enforcement for harassment Date: September 26, 2014 9:00:10 PM MDT To: williamharvey457@comcast.net
Edgar Hopida Communications Director The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) PO Box 38, Plainfield, IN 46168 Office: 317-839-1820, Cell: 317-679-6350 FOR MEDIA INQUIRIES: 317-839-1820 (M-F 8am-4:45pm Eastern), 317-679-6350 (M-F After 4:45pm Eastern, Sat-Sun 8am-11pm Eastern) Email: ehopida@isna.net Website: www.isna.net
My Reply: ________ Therefor, I am Ceasing ALL Communication with ALL Islamic Organizations, however this s ONE LAST “Courtesy” Email Reply to YOU, be Advised that I will continue Emailing the White House and U.S. Politicians, and am now happily Posting/Reporting your “Threat” (along with my Reply) to the “Non Islamic” Organizations (as well as others) such as: 1. Jihadwatch.org. 2. Pamelageller.com. 3..Creepingsharia.wordpress. 4. Barenaked Islam. 5. National Review 6. Family Security Matters. 7. American Thinker. 8. Thomas Moore Law Cnter. 9. Social Media. et. al.
Best Regards, William Lucas Harvey Jr. Age 70 Retired B.S.E.E. Colorado Registered Voter as “U” Unaffiliated.
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