“Kill the idol worshippers wherever you find them … shoot them if you can, stab them, throw stones at their heads, poison them, run them over, burn their fields – and if you are unable … spit in their faces.”
“Kill the idol worshippers wherever you find them” is essentially a quote from the Qur’an: “Kill the polytheists wherever you find them” (9:5). Doesn’t al-Hindi know that these verses of the Qur’an, when understood properly and in context, really mean, “Hug the polytheists wherever you find them”?
Anyway, the “spit in their faces” option is for the moderates.
“Indian jihadist group calls for attacks on non Muslims,” by Rupam Jain Nair, Reuters, October 6, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
(Reuters) – A group of Indian Islamic militants, operating out of Pakistan, has called for attacks on non Muslims in the region in retaliation for U.S.-led air strikes on fighters of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
The head of the little-known Ansar al-Tawhid fi’Bilad al-Hind urged Muslims to kill foreigners and other infidels in mainly Hindu India where Muslims have largely stayed away from global jihad.
“If you are in the fortunate position to kill an American or European, whether French or Australian or Canadian, or other unbelievers who have declared war on the Islamic State, then do so,” said Maulana Abdul Rehman al-Nadwi al-Hindi in a 30-minute video posted online last week.
Indian security analysts said that Maulana Abdul Rehman is a pseudonym for fugitive jihadist Sultan Abdul Kadir Armar, a former resident of southern India who attended an Islamist seminary before going to Pakistan.
“Kill the idol worshippers wherever you find them … shoot them if you can, stab them, throw stones at their heads, poison them, run them over, burn their fields – and if you are unable … spit in their faces,” al-Hindi said, referring to Hindus.
The emergence of a Islamic State-aligned militant group in India comes weeks after al Qaeda announced the formation of an Indian branch, aiming to rouse the world’s third largest Muslim population into action….
India has long believed that its democracy provided a platform for Muslims and other minority groups to address grievances and that they didn’t have to turn to violent jihad to pursue their aims.
Note how Reuters assumes that violent jihad is caused by grievances that Muslims have, such that if those grievances were redressed, violent jihad would disappear. In other words, non-Muslims cause violent jihad. Muslims are just passive reactors to their atrocities.
mariam rove says
someone should send this to Ben Aflac. M
mortimer says
Ben Affleck is so shallow and uninformed about Islam, he wouldn’t have a clue about what he was reading. He is convinced his simple-minded, post-colonial narrative is true, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. He ‘filters’ out the solid facts that discredit his shallow notions. He makes up his own facts!
“Ah, the noble savages! How lovely shines the blood on their knives in the moonlight! They must be angry at something the Europeans did!”
mk says
iam an indian we live very peacefuly in india. Indian muslims hate the terrorism. All indians are love india.even prime minister mody said that indian muslims love the nationality of india.so mr,robert spensor, you shouldnt divide india because of your foolish comments.you should know about the islam.the terrorism is the enemy of islam .islam not allowed the terrorism.islam is the peaceful releagion.all the terrorists didnt understand the islam.only their names are muslim but their activities are against islam and human being
ibn Muslim says
Grievances are true. Idol worship is haram.
Champ says
Idol worship is haram.
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But following probably the most heinous criminal (moohamhead) the world has ever known is a-ok …got it!
duh_swami says
Well then, you should stop idolizing Mahound…
Charli Main says
but having sex with 9 year old girls, animals and dead women is halal !!!!!
john spielman says
but what gives YOU or your ilk the right to kill or main these people! Is not Allah able to defend his own honor and punish by himself?
My God YHWH IS able to punish by Himself. H e says “vengeance is Mine I will repay!”
By your own admission, Allah cannot!
since he is only Satan a fallen angel and NOT God
mortimer says
The only ‘grievance’ you have, Ibn Muslim, is that kafirs think Mohammed could not be a prophet.
A pedophile, genocide, highwayman, mass murderer and assassin would be unable to visit most countries today.
Jaladhi says
You described Mo/allah very well!!! Perfect!!LOL…
gravenimage says
The appalling ibn Muslim wrote:
Grievances are true. Idol worship is haram
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Now *this* is revealing!
Note that this pious Muslim’s “grievance” is not what we would normally think of as such—that Muslims have been mistreated somewhere, or denied their rights—no.
His “grievance” is that free people somewhere are “worshipping idols” (never mind that this is a rather serious misunderstanding of Hindu worship).
That Hindu worship in and of itself does nothing to harm Muslims, or to prevent them from worshipping as they wish, is immateria to himl.
What are some other Muslim “grievances”? Observing Christians ringing their bells or displaying the cross, observing Jews able to openly wear a Kippah or a Star of David, suffering Buddhist monks to walk about unmolested, seeing women allowed to move freely and go unveiled, allowing children to go to school without fear of being “married” off to old men…
There are, of course, many more. All “grievances” that pious Muslims are willing to kill for.
Nabhnil says
So what are the sister fucking Muslim sub animals going to do about it!! We Hindus are waiting!! Worshiping idols is far better than praying to rotting bodies at the graves of your ancestors!!( Sab-e-baraat) The next 25 years will spell the beginning of the complete extermination of Islamic sub animals from this planet. Mark my words.
mukesh says
Following Paedophile is OK ?
pup says
then leave india, we will not tolerate it here. go to pakistan, haven for terrorists
Beagle says
Do it where the idol worshippers circle a little black rock every year. That is so offensive to Allah.
duh_swami says
Of course as Ben said… not all of the worlds 1.6+ Mahoundians believe in this violence…
Most likely its only a smaller number of a few hundred million believe it enough to act…What could go wrong with that?
Bellman says
In this world of diversity, how else to peacefully coexist if not by equitable dialogue? By the end of this note, the premise of peaceful coexistence by dialogue will be seen to be inappropriate, for this given situation with IS.
Initially though, The options seem clear…1) the Islamists approach. 2) the global peace approach. We know in the first case, The Islamists try to kill everyone who opposes them, but this has been tried several times in the past, history has been rewritten by the victors of the day, in an attempt to hide the facts.
This is exactly what radicals hope to do..but modern technology is now there, what is recorded cannot be erased, or rewritten..and they cannot erase the rest of the world.
For example..
Extremists blew up the largest standing statue of The Buddha in Afghanistan several years ago, doing two things, firstly, they reminded us of how far a peaceful religion can spread in a world where there was no modern technology to help it spread. It flourished because there was a real message, that was embraced. And secondly…this terrible act reveals how religious insecurity can drive people to commit acts of inhumanity.. Today, they are still preaching the destruction of other cultures…
The way forward is either to let them slaughter everyone you love, erase your culture, and force a unified way of life,….OR the world has to put a stop to it now, and force * THEM* to accept many races, many cultures, many religions…and we learn to live together..
There is no logic to explain what drives these radicals, but A recurrent emerging theme used by these people, ( men and women!) to justifying joining the radicals is a perceived decadence in western cultures, that appeals to the self proclaimed marginalized youth..they then erroneously assume strict moral code would become the norm, and peace and prosperity would rule as a result.
Our western countries have to stand firm, and show the disenfranchised youth that we have not lost our moral compass when it comes to family, male and female roles and responsibilities. What we have done is grown as a species, encouraged a more widespread embracing of both men and women into productive roles in society, and this does not have to mean decadence, as the radicals are vehemently declaring.
We have to * make them * accept this world belongs to everyone! and just as the United Nations had a role after the Second World War, there must now be a enhanced global regulatory body that mandates *No* one religion or culture must assert dominance.
To do less, is to ( wrongly) justify to them that we are what they say…bent on the dominance of western culture…in which case war is upon us, unrelenting until one side is defeated.
Under these circumstances, there is no benefit of dialogue. They cannot be reasoned with, any more than the victims of the holocaust could reason with the Nazis, bent on their destruction.
we have to be definitive and meet them head on..this is not a situation for dialogue…this is for the future of all mankind to live together. They must be stopped.
voegelinian says
“The head of the little-known Ansar al-Tawhid fi’Bilad al-Hind urged Muslims to kill foreigners and other infidels …”
One of literally thousands of dangerously fanatical militant groups pullulating out of the Muslim world, from the Pacific to the Atlantic and nearly everywhere in between.
Rezali Mehil says
Soon we will know if Hindus will love their founding father “Gandhi”?
Of course he loved us Muslims…
john spielman says
Dear Rezali: what gives muslims the “right” to kill polytheists (or monothiests like myself -who reject your demon possessed false prophet muhammed-pbuh*) who are simply minding their own business and not attacking muslims?
* pbuh- perpetual banishment unto hell!
john spielman says
PS. I might add you dear Rezali are under a death threat yourself by ISIS because you are considered a shiite “dog”
twostellas says
He doesn’t care, as long as he can delight in death before they kill him it is enough. Hate is a bottomless pit and evil is never satiated.
bernie says
If extremist Muslims arrogate the “right” to kill or oppress everyone who doesn’t agree with them, then they are usurping God’s unique right to judge belief and disbelief, and are thus putting themselves on the same level as God. Therefore, they are polytheists themselves.
Jen says
Yes. But they don’t believe God has a unique right to judge and dish out punishment. This is the job of good Muslims on behalf of God. Their God is not like the one described in Christianity.
bernie says
Jen: yes, but they also say that “Allah has no partners.” If he has no partners, then he clearly wouldn’t need the partnership of finite creatures such as al-Qaeda and ISIS to execute judgment on people according to their religious opinions.
As well, Muslims in general (including the Islamofascists) claim to believe in Jesus and Moses, both of whom clearly stated that you must “love your neighbor as yourself” as a prerequisite to serving and pleasing God. Murdering, torturing, raping and plundering one’s neighbors just doesn’t cut the mustard, so to speak.
Jen says
@Bernie Yes, Islam recognises Jesus but he doesn’t have the same status. He is only a prophet and Muhammad, while also a prophet is supreme to him. Muhammad said things similar about helping your neighbour etc, but in the context of the Qur’an, you can’t apply all that is taught about Jesus in the Bible as carrying weight in Islam. Especially in light of Muhammad’s other actions. It has a lot of double standards. Also, “Allah has no partners” is in reference to polytheistic beliefs I believe. Al-Qaeda and ISIS are not being worshiped as such, so they are not partners. They are fighting for the cause of Allah in jihad.
mortimer says
Gandhi’s armies fought the Muslims too. Some love that was.
voegelinian says
Gandhi had “armies”? That’s news to me.
pumbar says
Yep, two of them which he kept in his sleevies (old, but still worth redeploying).
Jen says
Rezali: “Of course he loved us Muslims”
*ugh* Muslim logic and delusion. Nobody else is worthy except Muslims of course! I’m not sure why you frequent this website if it talks about negative things about your religion. Or does that make you happy seeing all the people suffering because of it? Just to point out- you’ll become a target yourself when the Sunnis come after you. That’s how ridiculous your religion is. Each side gets uppity over what normal people would consider minor differences, and they think it is worth killing each other over.
ibn Muslim: “Grievances are true. Idol worship is haram.”
This is precisely the danger of trusting a Muslim. They don’t use words the same way that normal people do. Innocent westerners think they’re talking about one thing, when they’re really meaning another. A “grievance” could mean anyone doing anything they disagree with. If it’s forbidden in their un-holy religious book, and someone else is doing it- this is a legitimate grievance. This “grievance” is now a free pass to become violent. “Oppression” – this could mean criticising Islam. The people doing this deserves to die! How else can Islam keep proclaiming it’s the religion of peace when non-Muslims keep exposing this falsehood by telling the truth? This is obviously oppression of Islam. “Slander” – a person pointing out any of the barbaric acts Muhammad did, in spite of them ALL BEING TRUE, this is still slander. Remember. All Muhammad’s adversaries did this. These “slanderers” today are no different.
gravenimage says
The vile Rezali Mehil wrote:
Soon we will know if Hindus will love their founding father “Gandhi”?
Of course he loved us Muslims…
………………………….
I thought this nasty Muslim apologist would weigh in here. Rezali Mehil hates all Infidels, but she *despises* Hindus.
She has even—bizarrely—asserted that sub-continent Muslims are well-endowed, while Hindus are sadly lacking.
Since most Muslims in India and Pakistan are former Hindus if you go back a generation or more, this is a ridiculous assertion—but what pious Muslim has ever been concerned with logic, when they can instead embrace unreasoning disdain? *Ugh*.
Rezali Mehil says
Hello Graven,
How is the child hunting going?
Any appointments? …still crying and arguing over it?
Do you miss the West Midlands and your familia in the UK?
Gandhi …added green to the Indian flag……Pakistan was inevitable but still he went on hunger strike to keep muslims in India..he was a good “little” man.
My point is the modern hindoo will hate their “father” because of this
..The truth is that Gandhi will be in Jannat now bowing to Allah SWT knowing that he did his best for Islam. …he is a Muslim myrter …a secret Muslim…I’ll bet you did not know that…BTW he was shot by a hindoo.
More Later…
Rezali
Nabhnil says
Google ‘ Hari Singh Nalwa’ and what he did to the Muslims ( specially the so called invincible warriors of Islam the Pathans). You will know who we Hindus will follow in the battle against EVIL.
Rezali Mehil says
Hari Singh Nalwa was a Sikh…their bravery and fighting prowess is well known by Muslims.
You are Hindoos …and after your treachery against them in 1984 …I don’t think they will be too happy to save your ass again.
More Later…
Rezali
Twostellas says
Lock and load, Indians, if you can. And defend yourself. If they come for it, give it to them.
Nabhnil says
We have been giving them to them for the last 1000years!! Why do you think we are still standing!! NOT due to Islamic charity. The sub animals tried their best to destroy us and still lost!! Google Shivaji, Hari Singh Nalwa, The Peshwas and you will know the true history of India and not the crap propagated by the Islamists and their bed mates the English colonial fascists!!
mortimer says
Rezali and Ibn Muslim…I hope the FBI investigates you soon.
ibn Muslim says
FBI has no jurisdiction where I live, EU that is. Indian polytheism is ugly, though…
kash says
How so? Do they make you wait till puberty before you marry a girl? Do they not behead themselves for being polytheists? The monsters!
bernie says
Which Indian polytheism? East Indian Hinduism, American Indian shamanism, or West Indian voodoo or Santaria? I don’t agree with any of those things either, but it’s up for God to judge and not me. Arrogant, self-worshipping, and murderous ISIS and al-Qaeda members especially don’t have the right to judge, when they violate the divine command “Love your neighbor as yourself” left, right and center.
gravenimage says
ibn Muslim wrote:
Indian polytheism is ugly, though…
……………………………
But raping 9-year-old girls, stoning women to death, kidnapping school girls, and beheading journalists and aid workers is perfectly Halal…
bicky says
I beg to differ with you.The pyscho criminal Muhammed bin Abdallah is the evil/ugly one and so are his scumbag followers.
Salah says
I too beg to differ with you, bicky. Abdallah was not Muhammad’s father. Muhammad’s real father was, is, and will always be UNKNOWN!
That’s why, according to Islamic law, four-year pregnancies are perfectly acceptable!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/03/muhammads-father.html
Charli Main says
@ salah
I think that Mohammed´s father was Jewish window cleaner who abandoned his mum, when she told him little Ham Head was on the way.
That why Ham Head had a life long hatred of Jews.
Jen says
ibn Muslim is not saying that the FBI would have no reason to suspect him of anything. Just simply, that there is no jurisdiction for the FBI where he lives.
Homer says
Ibn Muslim, why exactly is Indian polytheism ugly to you? Do you know anything about it, or is it just Islamic prejudice? In any case, nothing is uglier than that Ebola among religions in which you believe.
Homer says
Ibn Muslim, how can you live in infidel EU, which oppresses Muslims? Why don’t you go and live in one of the many Islamic paradises, preferably IS?
Rezali Mehil says
Mortimer,
You keep saying “I hope the FBI investigates you soon ?”
Why….please explain? I have a POV which is different to yours…I put forward theories as to the future will be Islam…there is excellent evidence to suggest that is the case…even your own administration…does not say different ..why would that prompt investigation…it is freedom of speech …you put forward your vile, open naked opinion against Islam …against me…aren’t you just as guilty?
What is the difference matey?
it’s all freedom of speech…and anyway how do YOU know that I am not the FBI…I could be? …(LOL just kidding…no I’m not …eh yes I am …no I’m not …oh well back to square one).
More Later….
Rezali
Jen says
@Rezali
“What is the difference” “Aren’t you just as guilty”
You’re joking right..
The values taught in Islam are completely devoid of common decency.
I know the idea of ‘decency’ being common is not pronounced in your religion but for the vast majority of civilised people, the idea that everyone- not just Muslims- deserve to be treated with dignity is a given. That includes hindus and others being able to practice any religion they like. In my view, Islam can be excluded from this because it seems to leave a trail of misery wherever it goes and does not have any sufficiently redeeming qualities to make up for it.
So the next question is, what person with any sense of morality would believe in the message of demonic Allah and a filthy Muhammad? How is it perfectly acceptable to you as a reasonably educated person to agree with this world view? I can only imagine. You’ll have to ask yourself that question privately.
What’s this “freedom of speech” thing you mentioned? This is a dearly held value in the West and something that Islamic countries have a dismal record for. How sensible is it, that you enjoy your right to free speech in 2014, and yet, you would also be perfectly happy to have Islam as the dominant world religion? The two don’t mesh together. This has been shown the world over.
Nobody is stopping you from expressing your views but if they happen to be appalling, you can expect a negative reaction. Especially here, where people are not stupid enough to think that these recurring problems that keep cropping up wherever Muslims inhabit have nothing to do with Islam. It is worse than any brain cancer I’ve heard of. At least cancer isn’t contagious.
Jaladhi says
When Muslims will be killed in India, USA will stop giving visa to all Hindus just like it did to Modi!! USA and Europe’s blinding love Muslims is infinite and that is why we are in such a big mes s now!! When you don’t remember the history you are bound to repeat it!! Remember Muslims have murdered more than 300 million non-Muslims all over the world in last 1400 years. Killing continues!!
Wellington says
Were this passage from the Koran pointed out to Ben Affleck, I have little doubt he would reply by saying that there is violence in the Bible too. Yeah, I have little doubt that he’s this clueless.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Moslems in India are all agitated nowadays, what with Modi taking over the country.
Ansar al-Tawhid fi’Bilad al-Hind urged Muslims to kill foreigners and other infidels in mainly Hindu India…
He’s teeing up the boys for some Hindu meat. Trouble is, the Hindus know better than anybody the one thing that Moslems understand and respond to. So they give it. When the mass rioting erupts in the subcontinent on some Friday afternoon in the next couple of years, the key thing will be how Modi articulates the problem, and what he does to solve it.
abad says
India needs to do what Myanmar did – drive out all Muslims.
Nabhnil says
We will be forced to sooner or later. With Islam there is no middle path. It is kill or be killed. Hindus do not have any illusions regarding this savage, sister raping cult!! ( Google incest in muslim societies).
Jen says
It’s only really the ill-informed westerners and those who have not lived among Muslims for a long stretch of history that don’t understand how Islam works- and you’re right. There’s no middle ground. Every group of people who have family originating from regions where there is non-Muslim/Muslim conflict understand this. Slowly but surely, everyone will begin to understand this and they’ll get crushed.
gravenimage says
India Muslim leader: “Kill the idol worshippers wherever you find them…shoot them if you can, stab them, throw stones at their heads”
A group of Indian Islamic militants, operating out of Pakistan, has called for attacks on non Muslims in the region in retaliation for U.S.-led air strikes on fighters of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.
……………………………
This last is, of course, utter bullsh*t. Al-Qaida had already declared resurgent Jihad in India—long before the US or any of their allies decided to react to the savagery of ISIS.
sidney penny says
The Sayings of Robert Spencer.
PLEASING TO ALLAH SERIES
Continuing the “Pleasing to Allah series”
Idol worship is haram: shooting non Muslims mainly Hindus, stabbing them, throwing stones at their heads, poisoning them, running them over, burning their fields ,spitting in their faces :Pleasing to Allah
sidney penny says
“Note how Reuters assumes that violent jihad is caused by grievances that Muslims have, such that if those grievances were redressed, violent jihad would disappear. In other words, non-Muslims cause violent jihad. Muslims are just passive reactors to their atrocities.”
Why is it always the retaliatory attacks that get coverage and not the actions that caused the retaliations?(seems to be the case in India and elsewhere)
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/10/08/no-rohingya-muslims-in-myanmar-before-1948-while-80-of-greater-asia-once-buddhist-have-been-forced-to-convert-to-islam/
No ‘Rohingya’ Muslims in Myanmar before 1948 or even in 1824
While 80% of Greater Asia once Buddhist have been forced to convert to Islam.
Existential fears of Buddhists in embattled Burma and Buddhist nations
Why can’t the world ask ‘‘what are the fears of the Buddhists of Burma?”
World history has never been kind to Buddhists or seen issues from the lens of Buddhists. Therefore, it is left for the Buddhists to take the truth to them.
While Muslims and mainstream media like to project a version of Muslims as being the victim, it was the armed Muslims that began a wave of violence against Buddhists in the Arakan region destroying Buddhist villages.
Why does the media refuse to highlight the violence started by the Muslims who were armed by the British against the Buddhists as far back as 1942? Where were the cries for the 20,000 Arakanese Buddhists slaughtered by these Muslims?
Why is it always the retaliatory attacks that get coverage and not the actions that caused the retaliations?
sidney penny says
“Anyway, the “spit in their faces” option is for the moderates.”
Super comment.
David says
I agree with Beagle, how much more of an idle can you get than the Black Stone, where Muslims literally jizz themselves if they get near it? Stupid Muslims, one half of the Muslims at the Kaaba should be killing the other half at any given time, for idol worship. Now that would be funny.
mk says
he is not an indian muslim leader because we are indians .he is not well known person.but we know the famous islamic leader is sheikh aboobaker ahmed,all india jamiyathul ulama general secetery. iam an indian we live very peacefuly in india. Indian muslims hate the terrorism. All indians are love india.even prime minister mody said that indian muslims love the nationality of india.so mr,robert spensor, you shouldnt divide india because of your foolish comments.you should know about the islam.the terrorism is the enemy of islam .islam not allowed the terrorism.islam is the peaceful releagion.all the terrorists didnt understand the islam.only their names are muslim but their activities are against islam and human being
dumbledoresarmy says
LIAR.
Stop talking nonsense.
Most people here have read the Quran, not once, but several times and we know what is in it. Horrible book. And the Sira and the Hadith are even nastier. Mohammed was a violent, slave-taking, caravan-robbing warlord.
We also know what Muslim invaders did to India. Millions upon millions of murdered people; millions enslaved; millions treated like sh*t. Destruction of temples. Pillage on the grand scale. And all of it mandated by the Islamic texts.
Don’t try to fool *us*.
Islam a “peaceful religion”?
ROFLMAO.
Islam is a cult of blood and war and the Quran is a license to kill.