If these Islamic State jihadis had beheaded anyone in power in the modern UK, the only salient question would have been “how could they tell?”
“NEW INFO: London Terror Arrests Disrupted Public Beheading Plot,” Fox News, October 7, 2014 (thanks to Anne Crockett):
London police arrested four men Tuesday in an ongoing terror investigation. On “The Real Story” today, we learned that the alleged plot involved beheading people on the streets of London.
Authorities said the men, who are in their early 20s, were arrested after warrants were executed at various addresses. One of the men was tasered, but did not require medical attention, FoxNews.com reported.
Gretchen Carlson talked to UK Telegraph defense editor Con Coughlin, who confirmed that the plot was to behead innocent people in public, citing Scotland Yard and intelligence officials.
Coughlin said the plot involved jihadists who had come back from Syria. He likened the horrific plot to the brutal public murder of British soldier Lee Rigby in May 2013.
A similar public beheading plot was also disrupted in Australia last month. Coughlin said he’s unsure of when the suspects came back from Syria or how they came back.
“This is an ISIS plot. This is the first ISIS plot we’ve had on the streets of London,” he said….
Beagle says
Allowing Muslims to practice their faith by striking the necks of the kuffar until their heads fall off is a reasonable accomodation of Islam. Our cultural mosaic is further enriched by the great religion and culture of Islam. After all, Christians beheaded people. We all supported that back in the day when we were decades or centuries from being born.
Who are we to judge Islam? Inquisition. Crusades. If only we would stop alienating and marginalizing Muslims, forcing them into menial jobs like doctors or government advisors, we could experience the true peaceful teachings of Islam.
Celebrate diversity! What could be more diverse than separating a head from a body? Islam means peace, pieces, whatever. Semantics.
/I kan haz govmit job nowe?
TH says
Baloney. Where in the Bible or any other authoratative Church document in 20 centuries of Chrstianity order anyone to behea infidels? As for the Inquisition an the Cruzades, learn a bit of real history and stop repeating to propaganda. There is nothing inthe New Testament to justify the excesses of the Inquisition, which were much fewer than the Black Legend would inicate. How many were killed due to having been codemned by the Inquisition ? It did not apply the capital punishment itself but the secular arm of the State. A reasonable estimate is about 3000 over a period of 5 or 6 centuries. How many were killed by Islamic jihad throughout 14 centuries? Some 270 million according to reasonable estimates. Besides, thanks to the Inquition there were no civil religious wars in Spain, whilst in France, Holland and Germany among other places such civil wars were promoted by the Protestants and eventually provoke the death of a third of the population of Germany. Calvinists in Holland began the war by burning 80 churches. I am not justifying the excesses of the Inquisition, but it has to be judged within the context of the time, when the unity of a Christian nation was a high priority and heretics considered a danger to such society, which in fact they di turn out to be in the above mentioned countries.
As for the Cruzades, what right did Islam have to occuply Palestina, Syria, Egypte, North Africa and Spain, reaching into France before they were stopped by Charles Martel in 732? None. The Christian population of those countries were legitimately converrted to Christianity several centuries before Islam appeared on the scene. Christianity reache Antioch in Syria within a decade of the death of Jesus and a little later Alexandria. Not until the 12th century were Christians capable of mounting any kind of self-defense against muslim persecution of pilgrims to the Holy Land. The Cruzades were defensive campaigns against muslim tyranny, although there were many excesses on the part of the cruzaders, but that was not the intention of the Pope on convoking them, nor were such excesses in any way justified by the teaching of Jesus, whilst everything that the jihadis are now doing in the 21st century are following exactly what the false prophet, bandit and warlord Mahommed ordered and did himself. Besides, in the year 2000 Pope Juan Paul II made a public act of recognition of the evils done throughout the centuries by Christians in the name of Christianity. When has any muslim ever recognized that over 14 centuries they have massacred millions of people.
There is absolutely no comparison between Islamic jihad and the Cruzades or the Inquisition. A final point about the Inquisition, a woman accused of witchcraft would have been a lot more fortunate to be judged by the Inquisition that the secular courts of the day.
History is not about repeating slogans, but about examining the real sources and trying to discover what really happened and why it happened. It is a far cry from propaganda.
Beagle says
You thought that was serious?
I can haz sarcazm detektur?
Anyway, good points. I agree with all of them.
gravenimage says
TH, Beagle is a staunch Anti-Jihadist. He was being sarcastic.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Hahahahahaha Beagle! I was just thinking the same thing.
We should also abolish ‘crimes’ for the Muslimes since their religion tells them they must commit such. Theft for example. I mean: Allah says all kuffar property belongs to the Umma (Muslim people). And since I’m fresh from Dom. Viol Court today-shouldn’t we also immunize all Muslims from indictments of assault and battery, and murder?
You know: Just when a Muslim GUY does that to a Muslim GIRL.
See? That’s super diverse, right? Because we don’t want to be [reverse] sexists on top of (pardon the pun) being Islamophobes, do we?
Allah forbid.
RICHTHOFEN says
Absolutely
Terry says
The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham, when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina.
Since we are talking here about a relogion that is inherently murderous and pedophilic… Go to wikipedia and look up his wife’s name, “Aisha”. Additionally, look up the term “nose cutting” on google. Those cats are flat-out Satanic.
sam says
A good dialogue with Moslem beheaders would bring everlasting peace. What do you think OBAMA?
Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Me) says
How many times do we have to explain the same thing to the thick-headed Kafirs?
Convert – submit, and pay the jizyah – or die.
How many of your so-called “innocent Londoners” are paying any jizyah?
Jacksonl03 says
Uh . . . Since most of you immigrant Muzzies are living off welfare of one sort or another, I guess it’s fair to say all Londoners are paying the Jizyah. And will no doubt continue to do so until enough wake up to what the real world of Islam means over the long run to any civilized country.
GP says
Innocent Londoners paying the jizyah, would that be including muslims on the dole?
Jacksonl03 says
For certain.
r says
The dole and all the other benefits they get is the jizya – they grace us with their presence provided that we pay out through the nose to keep them – only fair, innit?
RICHTHOFEN says
Is it not ‘Piss be upon Him’?
abad says
WHEN is the UK going to shut their borders to Muslims?
RICHTHOFEN says
Until the west clues up and proscribes islam as an illegal organisation, nothing will change. Those unhappy with that are free to go and live in a muslim state – those who are prepared to discard their cult and its evil mantra, and integrate, are free to stay. What is not to understand/like about that?
tpellow says
Supplementary.
“Jihadi plot to attack UK smashed: MI5 seize Briton who’d fought in Syria amid fears his gang was planning a beheading ”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783689/Four-men-arrested-suspicion-terror-offences-series-raids-London.html#ixzz3FVLn11jF
pumbar says
This is shocking and disgraceful. Give those poor boys more benefits and get those officers into diversity training at once. We will not have our diversity harmed at the expense of a few heads. (TM).
RICHTHOFEN says
The great concern is that what you have said is exactly how our Merkel-puppets think – what chance do we stand against such effete capitulation and defeatism? Finishing the job for their great admirer and imitator, Hitler – and we do not lift a finger, no shot fired, just sleepwalking to oblivion, annihilation – genocide of the British race by any other name
pumbar says
I know I was being sarcastic but I have a horrible feeling I’ll hear that, almost verbatim, in the next couple of days.
Mirren10 says
Won’t surprise me, either, pumbar.
Our ‘government’ is succeeding in becoming a caricature of itself.
Mirren10 says
The scumbag is a **medical student**.
Of course, this poor bloke is ‘marginalised’, and ‘disadvantaged’.
Jayell says
The trouble with all the priceless barbs of wit (and sarcasm?) that we’re getting here is that they’ll never penetrate the collective bigoted ego of Islamic mind since their stone-age ideology has so seriously numbed and stunted their intellectual development that they no longer possess the necessary IQ and basic received civility to appreciate the meaning and value of any rational criticism aimed in their direction, even less learn from it. It’s like prescribing aspirin to a person whose cranial pain receptors are effectively dead. But keep up the good work, at least it’s entertaining for those of us who still have our intellectual functions intact. The ‘jizyah’ comments are spot-on (what are the official figures? About 50% of adult male muslims and 75% of adult female muslims in the UK economically inactive and receiving benefit? What’s the cost of THAT to the taxpayer?). More to the point, how much are all these ‘terror investigations’ costing, and how much is it costing the taxpayer to keep the four specimens involved here in ‘the manner to which they have been accustomed’ whilst enjoying Her Majesty’s hospitality? I read somewhere that it costs more to keep a prisoner than to send a child to Eton. And I also read somewhere else that muslim prisoners are enjoying extra privileges ON TOP OF THAT!! What a benefit Islam is proving to the UK!!!
RICHTHOFEN says
All true! How is it that Quislings like Cable cannot grasp those facts? Until we quit the Merkel-controlled EUSSR, her puppets here will not lift a finger to rid us of this medieval cult of murder, hatred, rape, incest and insanity. Islam must be proscribed as an illegal cult, and expunged. Those who pretend to be ‘moderate’ are free to stay if they integrate and renounce their slime-pit cult – otherwise, they are free to go and live in a muslim state. Unless we eradicate all traces of islam, the west will very soon be turned into a stinking garbage heap because that’s all they know, that’s what they want
Judi says
It already is!!
ECAW says
“Meanwhile MI5 Director General, Andrew Parker has been telling the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee of the 34 terror plots which have been foiled since 7/7. It has become like a macabre game of cricket. The terrorists send down a delivery every three months or so and the security forces do their best to defend the wicket, which is us. So far they have been amazingly successful. Only one has got through lately, in Woolwich last May, but it cannot go on forever. Eventually MI5 will fail to get their bat down in time.”
As true as it was several months ago when this was written. Unfortunately it’s going to take more atrocities before the people of Britain, and the West generally, wake up to the reality of Islam.
What would we prefer:
1. 10 Lee Rigby style events.
2. 6 Mumbai or Nairobi style events.
3. 4 Celebrity executions. We could lose Simon Cowell, no problem.
4. 2 Royal family beheadings.
5. 1 bomb ouside the offices of the Guardian or the BBC.
Come on MI5, the sooner you let one through the sooner we can start the business of waking up.
pumbar says
At the moment you could have all of them in one day and nothing would change. Things are swinging the way of reason but the lock-keeper is old and decrepit, the lock gates are rusted and there’s a lot of slime and algae that prevents the free flow of the waters.
Mirren10 says
”What would we prefer”
None of the above.
How about ‘call me dave’ in an orange jumpsuit, with Jihad John’s knife at his neck ?
Or, better still, bliar and brown, bleating in unison, ”this has nothing to do with islam”.
pumbar says
As they wait in line for their turn.
Bronson says
Will it take a jihadist smiting Cameron’s neck to stop him saying ‘nothing to do with Islam’. However his successor would be saying it within 24 hours I’m sure.
salamander says
Just saw this mornings copy of the Sun (U.K rag) cover picture of a young Muslim girl in a Union Jack niqab , with the headline , United against I.S. Well that’s giving those pesky radicals something to think about, the bulldog spirit of Britain hasn’t been sleeping, just away licking its balls. Now all we need is for our young Muslima to take a little stroll through the Muslim enclave of Tower Hamlets in London to show us social cohesion at its very best
Jayell says
Hello salamander. Yes, I saw that front page as well. Didn’t bother to buy the paper to see what deluded trash their editor was trying to foist on his gullible readership. I think we can safely say that we’ve about as much chance of seeing a ‘muslima’ in a Union Jack niqab as we have seeing a pig flying over Heathrow. The editor of the ‘Sun’ clearly had not done his homework, otherwise he might have known (from published UK muslim opinion polls) that the last thing that a sizeable proportion of the UK muslim population want is to associate with anything that the Union Jack traditionally stands for. So he wants to bury his head in the sand and dream dreams of some multi-culti cloud cuckoo land in which everyone is EVER SO NICE and would never dream of emulating the behaviour their Dark Age criminal gangster-excuse for ‘Prophet’ (whose teachings are so often misunderstood despite being set out clearly in black and white)? Nice for him! I would rather be assured that I can safely travel on the London Underground without being blown to bits by some adherent of the ‘Religion of Peace’ who otherwise might have conned us into believing that he was an oh-so-respectable-honest-and-dependable member of the teaching or medical professions, or whatever. But some people love being naïve, don’t they?
salamander says
You are spot on Jayell, naivety seems to be the order of the day, I went back down to the newsagents and bought the Sun , curiosity got the better of me , I had to see the views of the sheeple, I was not disappointed . Nothing to do with Islam , phew I was getting a bit worried. My mind was put at rest by Ms Faseeha Farid , Young Muslims Glasgow on the beheading of Alan Henning “No Muslim would ever do something so disgusting the day before a celebration” mmm poses the question as to whether it is ok the day after. She obviously hasn’t been paying close attention to her Cornyan as the “model” himself wasn’t adverse to a little bit of blood-letting during the “sacred months”. I really cannot criticise anyone’s failure to read the Quaran as having set myself that task I felt like plucking out my own eyeballs after the first page. Well I’m away for a jjin and tonic
Jon Pierson says
TH said: “Baloney. Where in the Bible or any other authoratative Church document in 20 centuries of Chrstianity order anyone to behea infidels?” (sic)
True, beheading is not specifically named as the preferred means of execution but, as the saying goes, other means of killing are also available. Let’s take a look at some:
Leviticus 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
Yeah, stoning, that’s a good one and it’s the method of choice in Islamic Sharia Law for women who’ve been raped.
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
Burning? Nice! Catholics – Christians – did that to “witches” for centuries. (Yes, I know the story ended with a divine pardon but, sometimes, the psychological threat (torture) of being murdered is as bad as the act itself.)
Exodus 3:1-5 And afterward Moses and Aaron went in, and told Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Let my people go, that they may hold a feast unto me in the wilderness. And Pharaoh said, Who is the LORD, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the LORD, neither will I let Israel go. And they said, The God of the Hebrews hath met with us: let us go, we pray thee, three days’ journey into the desert, and sacrifice unto the LORD our God; lest he fall upon us with pestilence, or with the sword.
Pestilence or the sword… tough choice.
Look, the fact is that there are over 1,300 instances of cruelty or violence perpetrated by the god character – or at the command of the god character – in the Bible. And before we get the, “that’s all in the Old Testament” rubbish, IT’S THE SAME GOD.
Also, as any good, Bible reading Christian knows, the Jesus character is quoted as saying, at Matthew 5:17, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil” which, undeniably, brings the whole of the Old Testament into Christianity, from the actual fact of the Adam and Eve characters popping into existence (hence the idiotic, evolution-denying creationist ideas), through sufficient water magicing into existence to cover the surface of the planet to the height of Mt. Everest to the flying women of Zechariah 5:9-11.
dumbledoresarmy says
Mate.
A few points.
When was the last time you saw somebody being stoned to death for ‘blasphemy’ by Orthodox Jews?
And when was the last time that Christians actually killed someone for “blasphemy”? Or for apostasy?
As opposed to Muslim beheadings, stonings, killing of “blasphemers” and apostates, etc, of which multiple examples can be adduced in the 20th century and in the present time, right up to *now*…with videos of the assorted atrocities circulating amongst the “faithful” and new ones being produced and set circulating all the time.
Are similar videos – religious death porn, of real live humans being cruelly killed – circulating in fervently-religious Christian or Jewish circles *today*? NOPE.
You do realize, of course, that in Biblical history the Binding of Isaac is generally interpreted as a sort of watershed? – a dividing line, after which human sacrifice is just *not done*?
The one and only other case – is when Jephthah killed his daughter…waaaaay back in the days of the Judges, which is represented as a chaotic and violent time in any case. And that’s it. By contrast , if one does not have a tin ear for literature and history, one finds a consistent *rejection* of the concept of human sacrifice running right through the story of Israel, ever after.
However one reads the story of Abraham – and you really *should* read what the Hebrew exegetes say about it – and for that matter, also, the story of Jephthah, there has not exactly been an epidemic of either Jewish or Christian parents sacrificing their children.
Whereas one sees Muslims “honor” murdering their daughters left right and centre, both in the West and in the Muslim world.
You do also realize that the story of Jesus and the woman taken in adultery (see Gospel of John, chapter 8) *ended* any possibility of Christians practising stoning-for-adultery?? So what happens to your claim that Christians are supposed to literally, by-the-letter, practise and teach – or do in fact practise and teach – *all* of the OT civil and criminal – and ceremonial – code??? (The reality is that they never have so done; the matter was settled by the very first generation of Christians; see Acts chapter 15 and get a clue; also read – in Galatians – what St Paul had to say about some people who were insisting that male Gentile believers ought to be circumcised).
PS And if you think any Christian or Jew reading the book of Zechariah thinks that Zechariah saw actual real live flesh-and-blood women flying through the air, you’re a fool. It’s a prophetic *vision*. It’s quite plainly a *vision*; like a really vivid waking dream; fantastic images with *symbolic* meaning.
PPS
Reality check. When you hop on the bus or train or plane, are you *really* afraid that an Orthodox Jew sitting in the aisle opposite will suddenly detonate a bomb that he’s hiding inside that very big book he’s toting?? Just as much afraid as you might be that Muslims with bomb-laden backpacks will blow everyone up? When you’re walking in the street, are you really no less afraid that a Jew or Christian will leap out at you shouting religious slogans and chop off your head, than that a *Muslim* might do that? Come on, really?
(Both in Australia and in the UK, Muslims have been caught plotting to behead selected-at-random Infidels; and in Australia, the UK, and USA, there have been, in the course of the past 18 months, actual beheadings of random infidels by Muslims…by enthusiastic *converts* to Islam, zealously enacting the diktats of their chosen belief system). Now, do you really suppose that it is just as likely that groups of Christians or Jews will be found to have been plotting to do similar??
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Brilliant D’s Army. Genius.
This moronic equivalence of the Judeo-Christian religions with Islam, is off-the-charts stupid.
I also consider it relevant to note this: As a Roman Catholic, when we had the homosexual/pedophile scandal in our church? I never once feared, when I called into a talk-show to criticize it: Or wrote an op-ed v. it? That I’d be killed by a fellow RC who’d come and behead me for ‘defaming the Faith’.
Thank you Sir-masterfully done.