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Mother of jihad terrorist who murdered baby girl: “Praise Allah he’s a martyr”

Oct 27, 2014 6:01 pm By Robert Spencer

jihadterroristShaludifamulyIn any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat jihad. “Jerusalem Terrorist’s Mother: ‘Praise Allah He’s a Martyr,'” by Shimon Cohen and Ari Yashar, Arutz Sheva, October 27, 2014:

The mother of Abdelrahman Shaludi, the Hamas terrorist who last Wednesday murdered three-month-old Chaya Zisel Braun hy”d and 22-year-old Karen Mosquera hy”d with his car in Jerusalem, is a “martyr” according to his mother.

Shaludi’s family raised a ruckus after police limited the number of attendees at the terrorist’s Sunday night funeral at the feet of the Temple Mount to 20, and had the burial be held late at night.

The steps were taken to avoid violent Arab rioting, which occurred before the funeral in any case, as Arab residents of the Shiloach (Silwan in Arabic) neighborhood where Shaludi hails from clashed with police outside the dead terrorist’s home, as the family then refused to begin the funeral.

In the end, the family and the police agreed to let the funeral take place with a reduced number of participants, and the funeral of the Hamas terrorist was held in the Israeli capital without additional attacks on law enforcement forces.

During the funeral, Shaludi’s mother said she was proud of her son who gave honor to the family when he became a “shahid” (martyr), adding repeatedly “praise to Allah.”

The praise and lionization of the terrorist echoes statements by Palestinian Authority (PA) Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s Fatah faction, which pledged “loyalty” to Shaludi, and PA chief negotiator Saeb Erekat who justified the murders Shaludi committed. Likewise, a senior aid to Abbas was quick to praise the terrorist murder of the three-month-old, calling the terrorist a “hero.” …

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  1. Dennis says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 6:18 pm

    Surely he could offer a plea of self defence. Perhaps the baby pointed her pacifier at him.

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    The look of devastation upon each of the faces in the picture speaks more loudly than any shouts of “Praise Allah he’s a martyr.” This is what sickness of the soul looks like … and what it can do.

    • gerard says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 6:48 pm

      A picture is worth a 1000 words. A picture of misery. That’s Islam folks!

    • George Romero says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 5:17 am

      Yes that photo is worth 1000 words , these people are are deranged and sickly of the mind.I pity the little girls future on the right , her bag is being prepared for her head as we speak.

    • R. K. MacUalraig@gmail.com says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 9:05 am

      Some can see it, some cannot.

      My children are brown and blue eyed, and their lives are full of LIFE!

      LIFE.

    • boakai ngombu says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 11:48 am

      St. Luke was inspired to place this following a number of healing miracles by Jesus: (ESV, Luke 5: 31…”Those who are ill have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. 32) I have not come to call the righteous but sinners to repentance.”

      the forlorn faces speak loudly to the “sickness of the soul” of those with no assuredness of being in right standing with the Living God.

      the Allah god of Islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) cannot regenerate the deadened soul. neither can the Koran (no savior).

  3. Wolfgang says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 6:57 pm

    a look of devastation on their faces ? really ? not according to what the mother seems to say. She is “happy” her son is a martyr ( isn’t doing the jig )

    Matt:18 2 ” …………… it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

    killing babies ?………………This poor soul will not be in heaven I can say that for sure …..

    another example of Islam’s handiwork…

    • Santiago says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 3:31 pm

      Really? For sure? Only God knows, you must be God then. No one knows what he’s last thought was, or if he was completely nuts.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 9:24 pm

        His family doesn’t think the murderer was “completely nuts”—they consider his savagery exemplary, and believe that he will be rewarded by Allah with paradise.

  4. dumbledoresarmy says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    The *real* martyrs were two sweet and innocent Jewish girls: baby Chaya Zisel Braun, 3 months old, and convert-to-Judaism (from an “anusim” family) Karen Yemima Muscara, just 22 years old, who had come all the way from Ecuador to study Judaism and who had completed her conversion only a few months prior to her death.

    As for the Muslim who murdered them, a death worshipper who set out to perform human sacrifice by running people over with his car: he is not a “martyr”, he is nothing but a murderer and he is now dead.

  5. Wellington says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Referencing what CogitoErgoSum wrote above about “sickness of the soul,” I for one have irrevocably concluded that Islam produces a sickness in the soul of the most profound and saddest kind.

    While not religious myself, when I have studied religions like Christianity, Buddhism and Judaism, though I may object to some theological contention of these religions, never have I detected in such religions anything that produces a “sickness of the soul.” And yet Muslims manifest such sickness in sundry ways. The photo above is one example. Another I have often come across is the way Muslims aplenty exhibit a boasting element about their religion, replete with visions and statements about total conquest and subjugation of “the other” in this world. No other religion produces believers spouting rot like this.

    I would also contend that the absence in Islam of a true Golden Rule for all, something so many other religions have, also produces the sickness referenced here. And then there is that oh-so-constant self pity that is a regular feature of the Muslim mindset. An inability to apologize for any wrongdoing by Islam is yet another example of the deep spiritual sickness that so definitely characterizes the Islamic world. Just look at Islam’s refusal to this day, contra the Judeo-Christian world most definitely, to acknowledge the great wrong of black slavery—–and Islam began this many centuries before the Judeo-Christian world did and only sorta’, kinda’ stopped it BECAUSE the Judeo-Christian world forced it to.

    Yes, when I look at Islam, I see spiritual sickness aplenty. My God, the one thing a religion should be good at above all is mitigating spiritual sickness. Islam, by contrast, and to its great and eternal shame, actually enhances this.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 8:05 pm

      Does any one here need to be reminded that Muhammad stopped trying peaceful persuasion in Mecca, when he had little success there converting Jews and polytheists to Islam ??

      Later in Medina he used force — and if “necessary”, murder — against those fellow humans who were infidels, like two other guys famously sick : Joe Stalin and Adolph Hitler.

      Looking at those four faces in the post’s picture — we can easily read their thoughts : “Why am I trapped in this insanity called Islam ???”

      That is a question which I hope Keith Ellison and Andre Carson ask themselves often enough to eventually lead to some moral courage demonstrated in the face of the ongoing slaughter.

      • Shane says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 9:32 am

        Islam is a savage religion whose founder has more in common with Hitler, Stalin, and Chairman Mao than he does with Jesus or the Buddha. We must end all Muslim immigration to the West and recognize Islam as the main enemy of the West.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 8:44 pm

      Imagine being a Muslim. No forgiveness, the only way to straighten things out with their “god” being to murder, rape, pillage, and hope you kill yourself while doing it. Allah is Moloch, the god of human destruction.

      Come to Jesus (NOT “Issa”), Mohammedans. Jesus’ yoke is easy, and His burden is light. He will be your Friend and Defender. You can be kind to others, observe the Golden Rule, and have a beautiful life.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 10:14 pm

      Excellent post, Wellington.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:05 am

      Political Islam is theocratic fascism. Islam is a form of group sociopathy…similar to Nazism or Stalinism or Maoism or Pol Pot.

  6. TNT says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    This has got to be one of the most savage acts I have ever seen, to see a woman aka mother support and praise her son for killing a 3 mth old non muslim baby, have we moved into a new world of racists political correctness, know better as racists jihad?? To appease Islam the religion of peace?
    Insane , I’m gonna puke!

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 8:47 pm

      Look at the faces in that picture. They seem to have been forced to support the reprobate jihadi, much like the Palestinians forced to stay in buildings in Gaza marked to be hit by Israeli bombs.

  7. jewdog says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Can’t these freaks be shipped to Syria where they belong? It figures that the PA and Abbas call these rats peace partners.

  8. fair_dinkum says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    i cant imagine any circumstances in any other region, religion, culture or race that would celebrate infanticide based on religion (or based on anything).

    according to these (i will keep using this description) highly inbred, very low iq’d death cultists, the ‘hero’ goes to paradise.. the whole ugly virgin promise.
    minority radical? most of the town tried to attend the ‘hero’s funeral.

    a clear indicator of a collective illness. i try to stay logical and calm, and state facts, but this is disgusting and vile. its stoneage behaviour. its not human.

    there are no words.

  9. Salah says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 8:58 pm

    Muslims themselves are starting to reject Islamists. Last year, they’ve rejected them in Egypt. Today, it’s another spectacular defeat for Islamists in Tunisia.
    Political Islam (i.e. Islam itself) is dying.
    Tunisian Islamists concede election defeat to secular party
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/27/us-tunisia-election-idUSKBN0IG0C120141027

  10. Ayatrollah says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    The mother should be happy because a martyr get to bring 70 people into Islamic heaven with him. Mom thinks she is going to jannah.

    What if she is wrong?

    • Cindy Mccoy says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 5:04 am

      Not what if she is wrong, SHE IS WRONG!!!!! And now she is also a murdress along with her other sins. Christ died for her but she will not accept that instead her choice is a barbarian false god, named allah. My heart is sad for that. She destroyed the life of her sweet young baby. On the other side of that coin that baby is now with Jesus in heaven and the mother will never see him again unless she comes to the saving knowledge of Christ Jesus. And I pray that she will find Jesus and see her baby once again.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 10:16 am

        Cindy, I know you mean well, but I’m not sure this is the time or the place to threaten the *baby’s mother*.

        She was victimized by these murderous Mohammedans as well.

  11. Wellington says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    What’s with the “your posting too fast” shit and thus disallowing a comment? I’ve gotten this several times and, frankly, I’m getting sick of this. Anyone else care to comment about this latest obstacle here at JW, one which I think is due to malevolence rather than to malfunction.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      Thanks for bringing this up, Wellington . . . I have gotten the message too — starting about a week ago.

      I do not suspect gremlins as the cause, but rather perhaps RS’s website tech guy, dealing with a new influx of readers here.

      AND, OF COURSE, THE INEVITABLE TAQIYYA TROLLS FLYING AROUND ANY COUNTER JIHAD TRUTH TELLING.

      Maybe Robert Spencer will see this — but if not, we can bring the problem to his attention via his email contact path.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      I’ve gotten this message periodically over the past year or so—annoying, but not new.

    • Champ says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 11:21 pm

      Wellington, I’m having the same problem and it started about a week ago. Now I copy/paste my comments just in case that annoying message pops up.

    • Roderick MacUalraig says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:32 am

      Haven’t seen this one but I only post a few days a week. I have had some posts deleted though, after I’ve seen them posted.

      JW comments are monitored and censored.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:08 am

        Hello R.M. —

        I have had a few comments deleted — perhaps after getting slightly too fed up with Muslim victimhood and slaughter of “infidels” and saying what was really on my mind about their pathology.

        Let’s remember, however, that the remarks we see here making it into the comment section are probably only 25% or even less of Jihadwatch’s total bag every day.

        CAIR and their frat boy friends make sure that Robert Spencer and his tech person waste plenty of time attending to the gateway . . .

        • gravenimage says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 9:30 pm

          Actually, very few comments at Jihad Watch are ever removed. The idea that most comments are deleted is simply mistaken.

  12. gravenimage says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 11:12 pm

    Mother of jihad terrorist who murdered baby girl: “Praise Allah he’s a martyr”
    ………………………….

    Because there is nothing more praiseworthy for pious Muslims than murdering a tiny infant and a nonthreatening young woman.

    Muslims believe Allah finds such atrocities so praiseworthy, in fact, that the butcher can bring along 70 of his relatives into “paradise” with him—including, I’m sure she hopes, ghoulish mother dearest herself.

    God, I hate Islam.

  13. Sam says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    Islam is evil. What a culture where people take pride in killing a baby. And we are still sleeping. Islam must be defeated by force. We have no other choice.

  14. katarzyna says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    many Poles praise allah as well. they say: “allah f**kbar”.
    they would ask what allah thinks about Shaludi. the answer would probably be: “allah does not reply as he is busy with a goat”.

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 12:10 am

      devout Muslim

      ” hey I have Sharia law now………..

      I can marry my first cousin , but I must stone my first wife to death….

      I can also marry my goat and have relations with my camel….

      oh I forgot, I must stone my donkey to death before having sex with my sheep…..

      then every Saturday [ inshallah ] I can cheer myself with a infidel beheading…..

  15. shabeer_hassan says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 4:39 am

    ISLAM PROHIBITED KILLING WOMEN/CHILDREN:
    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
    Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.8
    Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that a son of Kab ibn Malik (Malik believed that ibn Shihab said it was Abd ar-Rahman ibn Kab) said, “The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, forbade those who fought ibn Abi Huqayq (a treacherous jew from Madina) to kill women and children. He said that one of the men fighting had said, ‘The wife of ibn Abi Huqayq began screaming and I repeatedly raised my sword against her. Then I would remember the prohibition of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, so I would stop. Had it not been for that, we would have been rid of her.’ ”
    Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4456
    ……….And the of Allah (may peace be upon him) did not kill the children of the enemy, so thou shouldst not kill the children……………
    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 257,258
    Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
    During some of the Ghazawat of Allah’s Apostle a woman was found killed, so Allah’s Apostle forbade the killing of women and children.
    Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2608
    Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Go in Allah’s name, trusting in Allah, and adhering to the religion of Allah’s Apostle. Do not kill a decrepit old man, o a young infant, or a child, or a woman; do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.
    Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4294
    Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate (the dead) bodies; do not kill the children.
    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 47 :: Hadith 786
    Narrated Anas bin Malik:
    A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, “Shall we kill her?” He said, “No.” I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah’s Apostle .
    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 2 :: Hadith 17
    Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 4
    Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4319,4320,4456, 4457, 4458, 4460
    Dawud :: Book 41 : Hadith 5128
    Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2663 ,2664,2663
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4390
    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.9
    Malik :: Book 55 : Hadith 55.1.2
    Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.8, 21.3.9,21.3.11
    Killing children character of non Muslim:
    6: 137. And so to many of the Mushrikûn their (Allah’s so-called) “partners” have made fair-seeming the killing of their children, in order to lead them to their own destruction and cause confusion in their religion. And if Allah had willed they would not have done so. So leave them alone with their fabrications.
    140. Indeed lost are they who have killed their children, from folly, without knowledge, and have forbidden that which Allah has provided for them, inventing a lie against Allah. They have indeed gone astray and were not guided.
    Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2482

    1)CHRISTIANITY
    1 Samuel 15:3,8

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ” … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
    Deuteronomy 3:3-6
    We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)
    2)HINDUISM
    Atharva Veda 11:2:21 Covet not thou our kine or men, covet not thou our goats or sheep.Elsewhither,strong One! turn thine aim:destroy the mockers’ family.
    Ath Veda 4:30:5 I bend the bow for Rudra that his arrow maystrike and slay the hater of devotion.I rouse and order battle for the people,
    Yajurveda Chapter 13; Mantra 12 says
    “O King, make progress in thy duty of administration, extend happiness to the religious. O terrible chastiser, burn down the irreligious foes. O splendid person, humiliate and consume utterly like dried up stubble, him, who encourages our foe.”
    3)JEW
    “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.”
    Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

    “A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.”
    Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b
    Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

    Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

    • Ha Meshuga says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 6:27 am

      Can you provide links to the web sites that you have got the above quotes and references from?

      • wildjew says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 8:04 am

        Have you noticed most of the people who spam these sites are not interested in having a dialogue or a discussion?

    • Jen says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:23 am

      The usual nonsense from a sick and dishonest Muslim trying to resist the truth from being told about his barbaric religion. Posts a bunch of garbage in an attempt to discredit all other religions and take the focus off his own. Amalekites? Sorry, can you let me know exactly where this group are living in 2014 and explain how that passage is a command for violence for all of time? As evidenced by the atrocities being committed by your disgusting coreligionists up to the present day, the command for violence for all of time is a central pillar of your “religion.”

      Hopeless Muslim thinks he’s doing ‘his bit’ for Allah.

    • Horace Yo says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 9:35 am

      Your Islamic brethren don’t seem to be paying much attention to those passages from the Hadith. They are bombing and killing as many as they can. They prefer not to kill women and children so they can take them as slaves so they can torture them for a longer time, but if they are in a hurry or want to set an example, they kill and behead women and children no problem. And mainly – Jews and Christians and Hindus have quit doing murderous uncivilized things. Only the Muslims are still at it in our world today. They are at it world wide too, not just in the Middle East. All the peaceful verses in the Koran have been abrogated by the murderous ones that came later. But why am I wasting my time? You already know that, Taquiya spout.

      • Jen says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 9:08 pm

        It’s good to explain these things, even though these Muslims *know* exactly what their “religion” is about and know that the peaceful verses were abrogated. It’s good to explain it here anyway for the benefit of others reading the blog who might not know this and believe these trolls’ nonsense.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:31 pm

      The sickening Taqiyya artist shabeer hassan wrote:

      ISLAM PROHIBITED KILLING WOMEN/CHILDREN
      …………………………..

      Muslims regularly murder Infidel women and children—and then crow about it, like this hideous Jihadist’s mother.

      What this Hadith prohibits is the killing of victims whom Muslim military leaders prefer to use as slaves and sex slaves, or to gratuitously destroy any good that they wish to steal.

      Proof of this is in the witless sabeer hassan’s own post:

      “Do not steal from the booty”

      “…do not embezzle the spoils”

      That is, that Muslims should not steal things from each other—just from Infidels. Killing in this instance is discouraged just because Muslims are in a position to take slaves.

      Even as brazen as they are, they would have difficulty taking Infidel slaves in modern Israel, so murder is the preferred method.

      More:

      do not be dishonest about booty, but collect your spoils, do right and act well, for Allah loves those who do well.
      …………………………..

      The above lauds Muslims taking booty from Infidels—including, of course, enslaving them.

  16. shabeer_hassan says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:09 am

    #Wolfgang
    PLZ GO TO ADVICE U’R HINDU FRIENDS ANIMAL SEX:
    For example consider the following hymn:

    “All wife of the host reciting three mantras go round the horse. While praying, they say: ‘O horse, you are, protector of the community on the basis of good qualities, you are, protector or treasure of happiness. O horse, you become my husband.'” – Yajur Veda 23/19.

    After the animal is purified by the priest, the principal wife sleeps near the horse and says: “O Horse, I extract the semen worth conception and you release the semen worth conception'” – Yajur Veda 23/20.

    The horse and principal wife spread two legs each. Then the Ardhvaryu (priest) orders to cover the oblation place, raise canopy etc. After this, the principal wife of the host pulls penis of the horse and puts it in her vagina and says: “This horse may release semen in me.” -Yajur Veda 23/20.

    Then the host, while praying to the horse says:

    O horse, please throw semen on the upper part of the anus of my wife. Expand your ***** and insert it in the vagina because after insertion, this ***** makes women happy and lively‘.”
    (Yajur Veda, 23 / 19 – 21)
    & U’R WESTERN FRIENDS http://www.occupyforanimals.org/bestiality-zoophilia.html

    ISLAM PROHIBITED SEX WITH ANIMAL:
    Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4449
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him ……….
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Cursed is he who goes in unto (has sex with in other words in Arabic) an animal. [1]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Allah cursed who goes unto (has sex) with an animal. [2]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: If anyone has sexual intercourse with an animal, kill him and kill it along with him. [3]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever you find doing as the people of Lot did (i.e. homosexuality), kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done, and if you find anyone having sexual intercourse with animal, kill him and kill the animal. [4]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever comes unto an animal, kill him and kill it with him. [5]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever comes unto an animal, kill him and kill it with him. [6]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever goes in unto (has sex with in other words in Arabic) an animal, kill him and kill the animal. [7]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever you find unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal with him. [8]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever you find unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal with him. [9]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever goes in unto (having sex with) an animal, kill him and kill the animal. [10]
    The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Kill the doer and the one who is being done (i.e., two males having sodomy), and who goes in unto an animal. [11]
    After reading these authentic hadeeths it becomes clear that having sex with animals is indeed prohibited within Islam. The same viewpoint is also held in the Bible:
    References:

    [1] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Musnad Ahmad 3/266 & Authenticated by Sheikh Al-Albani in Sahih Al-Jami’ 5891, Authentic.
    [2] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas and authenticated by Sheikh Al-Albani in Sahih Al-Targheeb 2421, Authentic.
    [3] Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas in Sunan Abi Dawud 4464, Hasan Sahih According to Al-Albani.
    [4] Narrated by Ibn ‘Abbas and related by Ahmad and the four Imams with a trustworthy chain of narrators cited in Bulugh al-Maram Book 10, Hadith 1216 by Ibn Hajar.
    [5] Narrated by Abu Huraira and Ibn Abbas in Sahih Al-Jami’a 5938, Authentic according to Sheikh Al-Albani.
    [6] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Mushkat Al-Masabeeh 3509, Authentic.
    [7] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Nile Al-Awtar, 7/288, Chained by Amru bin Abu-Amru. Both disputed it. But Yahya bin Ma’een authenticated it.
    [8] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Sahih Al-Tirmidhi 1455, Authentic according to Sheikh al-Albani.
    [9] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Sahih Al-Jami’a 6588, Authentic according to Sheikh al-Albani.
    [10] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Sahih Ibn Majah 2094. Authentic according to Sheikh al-Albani.
    [11] Narrated by Abdallah Ibn Abbas in Sahih Al-Targheeb 2423. Authentic according to Sheikh al-Albani.

    • bernie says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 5:46 am

      Many Muslim males believe that pederasty ( adult men having sex with pre-pubescent boys, or young teenage boys) is permissible, because the Quran describes Jannah heaven as having many “young boys who appear as scattered pearls”, and other, similar verses too I think. That is apart from the verses which seemingly permit the sexaul enslavement of non-Muslim girls and women, though not all Muslims take those verses literally. Unfortunately, groups such as ISIS and Boko Haram do.

      • mortimer says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 6:50 am

        Shabeer Hassan’s tu quoque fallacies shows he is unable to defend the psychopathic sadism of Islam. His mental attitude is pre-Enlightenment and pre-psychological.

        Islam is a form of mass sociopathy.

    • gp says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 11:50 am

      It is safe to say that most people believe that bestiality is an abomination.

      Surely you would understand that the (murdered) infant is innocent in the eyes of God. Right?

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 12:10 pm

      shabeer_hassan just can’t stay on topic

      The true Baby killer is
      Muhammad of Mecca

      The dogs of Medina still lift one leg in his salute.

    • Champ says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 1:38 pm

      Adherents to islam are evil to the core–as demonstrated by “shabeer_hassan’s” comments.

      Evil in, evil out …

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 5:57 pm

      @shabeer hassan-

      You lot [ Muslims } have a very thin skin don’t you ? I posted my sort of jest about about sex with animals because it was and is allowed by your foul stinking prophet, personally I think its a vile , depraved practice as emulated by Mo [PBUH]

      After all he IS your perfect role model isn’t he ?, now as a bible believing believer , you can if you wish denounce Jesus, revile him or mock my belief, you can mock me and do whatever you want to rail against me , but you know what ? it doesn’t faze me at all, I HOWEVER don’t get hot under the collar, behead any naysayers or stone anyone, unlike Muslims, almost without exception, they become obtuse, argumentative and are not able to have a rational disagreement with logical thought clear facts. You of course have entirely just proven my point in your illustrious cut , copy and paste above.

      Being of German descent, my skin is thick, but not my brain , you will really have to come up with some more witty replies thank you.

      And no……….try other verses that contradict your verbal diarrhea above, as the vile Rezali says………………

      ” more later ”

      in the meantime here is a link for you to enjoy

      Jeff Dunham and Achmed the Suicide Bomber – YouTube

    • Wolfgang says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 6:16 pm

      @shabeer_hassan

      Yes it does but only under certain conditions , its men only allowed to Sodomize animals.

      The animal has to be blessed by a Mufti (مفتي) first.

      The animal also must be Halal (حلا), which means no pigs or dogs, and it has to still be alive.

      Also both the man and the animal need to face Mecca (مكّة المكرمة) for the duration.

      imagine that under ” certain ” conditions Muslim men can have sex with animals ? and the man and animal must face Mecca while practicing that disgusting act ?…….pretty twisted .

      some links for you Muslim perverts that enjoy animal sex …….

      Sex with Animals in Islam
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS5Xpdu4ELE

      Muhammad had sex with animals and even with his aunt – Islam exposed
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbM0whdZCmE

      SEX WITH ANIMAL OR DEAD PERSON IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM AND IT DOESN’T INVALIDATE HAJJ

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 9:46 pm

      What off-topic crap from shabeer hassan—bestiality is rife in the Muslim world—the biggest on-line searches for animal sex are from Dar-al-Islam—and the Ayatollah Khomeini condoned bestiality as long as the rapist killed the poor animal immediately afterwards, and sold its meat in the next village.

      Even worse, he uncritically quotes this horror of Islam:

      The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Whoever you find doing as the people of Lot did (i.e. homosexuality), kill the one who does it and the one to whom it is done
      ………………………….

      Please note that this not only condones the murder of gay people—bad enough—but insists that the “one to whom it is done” be murdered as well.

      Understand that this does not just mean the murder of homosexual “bottoms”, but also of *victims of same-sex rape*.

      It should come as no surprise that rape victims are regularly murdered in Dar-al-Islam.

      *Damn barbarian*.

  17. pumbar says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:57 am

    God, imagine that lot moving in next door.

  18. DiMu says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Islam destroys the brain of its believers and there is only one solution – a double lobotomy, preferably by the barrel of a gun.

  19. gp says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:27 am

    Mother of jihad terrorist who murdered baby girl: “Praise Allah he’s a martyr”-

    And Satan the god he serves is smiling. There is a special place in hell for him.

  20. voegelinian says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 2:09 pm

    For G-d’s sake, Israel, kick ALL your Muslims out! (Israel must be run by Jihad Watch Softies…)

  21. Cliff Ross says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    That ANY mother is proud that her son killed an infant is beyond my belief. These people can not be human. Eradicate them.

  22. alyn21 says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 10:06 pm

    How can any woman applaud the killing of a child? Even if the so-called Palestinian narrative was true, which it most definitely is not, are these people so devoid of humanity that they could accept such an atrocity simply because it was done in the name of their religion? This makes them no better then a cockroach.
    I agree with Cliff Ross. Eradicate them.

  23. Edward says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 11:42 pm

    Mother of jihad terrorist who murdered baby girl: “Praise Allah he’s a martyr”

    “Islam is a cancer on the world! It must be cut out of all civilized societies, sent back to the cesspool it crawled out of & treated extensively with radiation!”- Super Dave2, October 28, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    You are into something truthful! Checkout the Quran’s creation account, a’ la Mohammad’s renderings@

    http://muslimmatters.org/2012/02/03/the-creation-of-man-as-mentioned-in-the-quran/

    Here you will read about: ” man being a disputer” (Quran 16:4), “the despicable water” (Quran 77:20) , sperm (Quran 80:19) and the conception evolution (23:12-14) . Here’s sex crazed Mohammad, Allah’s alter ego, tells all about the creation of man, err “the creation of pairs; male and female” too (Quran 53:45-46) ????

    Oh yes, you mentioned……”sent back to the cesspool it crawled out”. Maybe the cesspool you pointed out could be referring to the “despicable water” as mentioned in the Quran 32:7-8.

    A side note:
    Man’s creation as in Christianity’s account……man is created in God’s image. God ranks His creations to the highest….lovingly creates all man in His Image!

    Man’s creation as in Islam’s account……Allah ranks his creations at the lowest. The author of the Muslim website says…..”Allah reminds man again and again of his lowly and inferior origins, of his first and subsequent creation, in order to CULL his arrogance and reinforce his belief in Allah’s absolute power of creation and resurrection.”

    I used caps on the word CULL to highlight its meanings:
    Example 1. to gather the choice things or parts from
    Example 2. to reduce the size of (a herd or flock) by killing a proportion of its members. (Interestingly, isn’t this what ISIS is doing now?)

    BTW, Love is not expressed by the Islam’s creation account…..wonder why?

    The Muslims usually give a lame answer to this question…ibid. “The difference lies in the angle from which you choose to see the text (only when in a mesmerized mood is my guess), and the senses you choose to engage while reading.”Or this answer: Love act is a man’s emotion and “is not written in the Quran; but woven within the text are beautifully written love verses.”

    http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/ethics-and-values/muslim-character/168414-wheres-the-love-in-the-quran.html

    Poor people, that’s why they exhibit a dangerous disconnect with the unbelievers…..they don’t have distinctive faith like the unbelievers….attractiveness only by its mesmerizing nature….by reason sans emotions. The Muslim’s, it seems, live in a very controlled (under duress) stoic way of life. Compassion is certainly not part of their vocabulary! That’s why the mother of the baby killer has no remorseful feelings for the other mother……who lost the innocent baby in the (deliberate) auto accident in Israel.

    Convoluted = Coiled, en-wrapped within itself – Islam

    • shabeer_hassan says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 5:20 am

      PLZ GO TO ADVICE THE REAL TERRORIST /CRIMINALS FIRST ,THEN COME TO DEBATE WITH US:
      Child sex tourism :

      Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
      Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
      Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
      India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
      Brazil: 1.2 million child prostitutes
      United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes.
      China: It is estimated that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 child prostitutes.
      Mexico:16,000 children in Mexico were involved in prostitution
      Sri Lanka, there are nearly 40,000 child prostitutes
      In the Philippines, there are 60,000 to 100,000 prostituted children
      In Nepal approximately 30% of them were found to be children.
      in Vietnam, and 20,000 of these are children.
      in Ukraine, research has shown that between 30 and 40 percent of prostitutes are between 11 and 18 years
      in Russia approximately 20 to 25 percent of Moscow’s sex workers are minors.

      Shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism
      Shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children
      Shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse
      Total crimes: Countries Compared

      RANK COUNTRIES AMOUNT

      1 United States 11.88 million
      2 United Kingdom 6.52 million
      3 Germany 6.51 million
      4 France 3.77 million
      5 Russia 2.95 million
      6 Japan 2.85 million
      7 South Africa2.68 million
      8 Canada 2.52 million
      9 Italy 2.23 million
      10 India 1.76 million

      http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes

      NON ISLAMIC COUNTRIES ARE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF CRIME COMPARE TO ISLAMIC COUNTRIES THE FOLLWING LINK GIVES U MORE DETAILS REPORT:

      Shttp://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html
      Shttp://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/images/Graph03.JPG
      Shttp://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/images/graph05.jpg
      Shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metropolitan_areas_by_intentional_homicide
      Shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_murder_rate

      • Edward says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 5:20 pm

        PLZ GO TO ADVICE THE REAL TERRORIST /CRIMINALS FIRST ,THEN COME TO DEBATE WITH US:

        Debate would be useless…..your rubber stamp reply’s has been pre-printed 1.4 k years ago. So, let’s talk about the present realities.

        TheRealPeace.com terrorism counter reads today @ 24212, this since 911.

        This is 24212 ppl killed or maimed because of your psychologically mesmerized religious conviction’s tells your sub conscience its OK, this edict written by a self proclaimed prophet 1400 years ago.

        If this trend continues it will gradually evaporate what you have been inspired to commit, this when your subconscious overloads with guilt. This is the remarkable nature of hate, but sadly many innocent ppl will suffer because of your ignorance about God’s laws. I’m referring about the True God….THE TRIUNE GOD which has no end-infinity

        • shabeer_hassan says

          Oct 30, 2014 at 2:54 am

          #@ 24212, this since 911.This is 24212 ppl killed or maimed because of your psychologically mesmerized religious conviction’s tells your sub conscience……….

          islam prohibited killing inocent ppl by the follwing law:
          Malik :: Book 46 : Hadith 46.1.3
          Yahya related to me from Malik that he heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “I have left two matters with you. As long as you hold to them, you will not go the wrong way. They are the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.”

          2:83,2:84,85,86,4: 90,91,5: 28,8: 72,9: 4,17:33,25: 68,49: 6,
          Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 80,85
          Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 34 :: Hadith 299,440
          Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 48 :: Hadith 821
          Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 51 :: Hadith 28
          Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 53 :: Hadith 391
          Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 58 :: Hadith 194 ,233
          Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 628
          Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 134
          Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 8
          Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 82 :: Hadith 840
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,12,17,19,21,37
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 183,184,185,187,237
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 89 :: Hadith 320
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 423
          Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 611,623
          Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 157 ,161
          Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3142
          Muslim :: Book 16 : Hadith 4152,4154,4156,4158
          Muslim :: Book 17 : Hadith 4238
          Muslim :: Book 20 : Hadith 4554 ,4555
          Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6247 ,6248, 6249,6251
          Muslim :: Book 34 : Hadith 6454 ,6458
          Muslim :: Book 41 : Hadith 6903,6950
          Muslim :: Book 43 : Hadith 7171,7172,7173
          Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2763
          Dawud :: Book 35 : Hadith 4247,4257 ,4259
          Dawud :: Book 39 : Hadith 4483, 4487
          Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
          Malik :: Book 43 : Hadith 43.19.13

          http://sectrelation.blogspot.in/

          is anyone did against law plz undertand that ,either they r non muslim or they r working for mosad/neo crusaders/politician…………

          accodring to u’r theory 24212 ppl killed a terrorist:

          so what about ?
          hitler & churchil (christians) gangs brutally killed 75,000,000 people killed during the ww2
          As a young man he was confirmed as a “soldier of Christ.” His most ardent goal at the time was to become a priest. Hitler writes of his love for the church and clergy: “I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.” -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
          “My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison.
          Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

          Holocaust of the Iraqi children from the US and UN during the gulf war:”More than one million Iraqis have died- 567,000 of them children -as a direct consequence of economic sanctions… As many as 12% of the children surveyed in Baghdad are wasted, 28% stunted and 29% underweight.” –UN FAO, December 1995.

          http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/claim_that_all_terrorists_are_muslims_ignores_history

          R U AGREED THEY R CHRISTIAN TERRORIST????

        • Champ says

          Oct 30, 2014 at 3:04 am

          ahaha!!!!! …sure Hitler was a Christian and I’m the Queen of England! 😀

          Hey dimwit not only did Hitler hate Jews, but he hated Christians, TOO!!!

          “shabeer_hassan” is a lost cause serving an evil cause: islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 6:39 pm

        What shabeer hassan will not tell you is that many things we would consider the grossest crimes are perfectly legal or simply not prosecuted in much of Dar-al-Islam—Muslims robbing, kidnapping, and murdering Infidels; Muslims “marrying” little girls; and Muslims “Honor Killing” their “disobedient” wives and daughters. *Ugh*.

  24. shabeer_hassan says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 5:10 am

    GRAVE#Muslims are only a problem because they are (supposedly) being forced by Jews to murder Christians…………
    ATLEAST U HAVE LITTLE BIT OF COMMON SENSE WHAT R U TALKING ABOUT……?
    ISLAM TRY TO STOP KILLING INOCENT PPL 6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand.
    5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.
    PROPHET TRIED TO SOPS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS MUCH AS HE CAN POSSIBLE:
    Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4399
    It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Muti’ who heard from his father and said: I heard the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) say on the day of the Conquest of Mecca: No Quraishite will be killed hound hand and foot from this day until the Day of judgment.
    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 122
    Narrated Jarir:
    The Prophet said to me during Hajjat-al-Wida’: Let the people keep quiet and listen. Then he said (addressing the people), “Do not (become infidels) revert to disbelief after me by striking the necks (cutting the throats) of one another (killing each other).”
    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 3
    Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
    One of the evil deeds with bad consequence from which there is no escape for the one who is involved in it is to kill someone unlawfully.
    WHAT ABOUT THE CHRISTIAN/JEWS VIEWS KILLING ?
    Samuel 15:3,8

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ ” … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
    Hosea 13:16

    Samaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV)
    Deuteronomy 3:3-6
    We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)

    THESES VERSES FOLLOWED BY HITLER /MUSSOLINI/STALIN/CHURCHILL,ETC AND KILLED BILLIONS OF PPL THEIR BLOODIEST HISTORY THROUGH WW1/WW2/HIROSHIMA/NAGASAKI/IMPERIALISM/COLONIALISM(PET NAME OF 1 BILLION PPL AROUND THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES DIED DURING TH MIDDLE OF 16 TH CENTURY TO MIDDLE OF 19TH CENTURY)
    alyn21& Cliff Ross #That ANY mother is proud that her son killed an infant is beyond my belief. ……….
    ISLAM PROHIBITED KILLING WOMEN/CHILDREN: WITH NUMBER OF EVIDENCE I PROVED & WHO R THE PPL ALLOWED /ENCOURAGE TO KILL CHILDREN…..

    • Wellington says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      Conservatively speaking, Islam is responsible over the centuries for some 270 million deaths. Moreover, had the desultory Islamic world had the ability to develop modern weaponry (which it did not, just as it has demonstrated virtually no ability for centuries to develop virtually anything, including the scientific method, calculus, railroads, the telegraph, electricity, photography, television, cars, computers——-ah, the list is a very long one respecting what the West developed and invented and what the Islamic world did not), it would have used such weaponry, I have no doubt, to kill even more people than it has.

      Moreover, in all wars of the last hundred years or so, at least one of the two sides in every war was not a full and true democracy. No two complete democracies have gone to war with one another over the past century and that’s because democracies have an overwhelming way of working out their problems and differences without resorting to martial conflict. Well, once again count out the Islamic world here since true democracy requires true freedom and Islam is an eternal enemy of freedom. So, no hope here either for Islamic nations.

      Finally, I submit to you that there are four givens in life: 1) death; 2) taxes; 3) Muslims killing non-Muslims; 4) Muslims killing Muslims. 4) is preferable to 3) and both 4) and 3) overlap with 1). Done here except to say that if you’re going to post here again why not try an argument rather than just laying down cut and paste facts?

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 7:55 pm

      The semiliterate shabeer hassan has been unusually busy on this thread—he is usually content with one long cut-and-paste Da’wa screed.

      He wrote:

      ISLAM TRY TO STOP KILLING INOCENT PPL
      ………………………………

      What shabeer hassan will not tell you is that the only people considered “innocent” in Islam are *devout Muslims*—making the murder of victims like the ones in the story above perfectly Halal.

      More:

      6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly…
      ………………………………

      Notice that there is only a single reference to Muslims being urge not to kill in the list above provided by shabeer hassan—and that only bars Muslims from killing their own children out of despair.

      Clearly, they can kill their own children fro other reasons, such as “Honor Killings”—and there is no bar from murdering Infidels with complete impunity.

      And far from that list being indicative of Muslims being prohibited from killing people, it actually offers two instances where Muslims *regularly* kill those accused of such prohibitions—those who “join others in worship”, as Christians, due to the belief in the Trinity, are falsely accused of doing; and those accused of illegal sexual intercourse (“Zina”), including adulterers, homosexuals, those engaged in premarital sex, women chatting with unrelated men, and even victims of rape, as well as anyone falsely accuse of any of the above.

      Muslims regularly kill Christians, “polytheists”, and those accused of Zina.

      So, far from Islam’s preventing murder, it provides further occasions for its devotees to practice it.

      More:

      …and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law).
      ………………………………

      But, of course, so many forms of murder are not only not forbidden under Islamic law, but are in fact urged. Only the killing of fellow devout Muslims are really discouraged.

      More:

      5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!
      ………………………………

      This passage, infamously, is condemning Jews—not urging Muslims to abstain from murder.

      It even specifically ordains killing those who “spread mischief in the land”, which includes both Infidels in toto and any Muslim who might be lax in their practice of Islam.

      More:

      PROPHET TRIED TO SOPS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS MUCH AS HE CAN POSSIBLE
      ………………………………

      This is, no doubt, why he tortured a man to death—Kinana of Khaybar—when he would not divulge the location of his people’s treasure, why he had a woman beheaded because she could not stop sobbing over the murder of the tribe’s men in an attack by the “Prophet”, and why he had up to 900 men and boys of the Banu Qurayza.

      The truth is that Muhammed is one of the most sanguinary figures in history, along with other watchwords for savagery like Attila the Hun and Ghengis Khan.

      More:

      The Prophet said to me during Hajjat-al-Wida’: Let the people keep quiet and listen. Then he said (addressing the people), “Do not (become infidels) revert to disbelief after me by striking the necks (cutting the throats) of one another (killing each other).”
      ………………………………

      Noter that this only prohibits devout Muslims from killing other devout Muslims—note that he did not prohibit them from killing Infidels.

      More:

      Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 3
      Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar:
      One of the evil deeds with bad consequence from which there is no escape for the one who is involved in it is to kill someone unlawfully.
      ………………………………

      And who is it *lawful* to kill? Why, Infidels and the “insufficiently Islamic”.

      The idea that Hitler and Stalin—a famous atheist, by the way—were killing people in the name of the Book of Samuel is ludicrous. None of the people listed ever cited these verses.

      Hitler, in fact, famously considered Christianity “flabby and weak” for being insufficiently brutal—and he admired Islam *because* it was so savage and violent.

      Note, moreover, that shabeer hassan considers Winston Churchill, who stood up against the savagery of Fascism, to be morally one and the same.

      Further, one of the very few Infidels whom Muslims regularly admire is the vicious Adolph Hitler, particularly for his slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust.

      The mother of this Jew-murdering Jihadist likely feels the same.

      More:

      alyn21& Cliff Ross #That ANY mother is proud that her son killed an infant is beyond my belief. ……….
      ISLAM PROHIBITED KILLING WOMEN/CHILDREN: WITH NUMBER OF EVIDENCE I PROVED & WHO R THE PPL ALLOWED /ENCOURAGE TO KILL CHILDREN…..
      ………………………………

      Why don’t you go and “prove” this to the mother of Abdelrahman Shaludi, who seems to have gotten Islam so very, very wrong? Or to the parents of the Jihadist who murdered the Fogel family, including women, children, and three-month-old Hadassah?

      Why not tell it to the pious Muslim who gloried in butchering a babe-in-arms because her family belonged to the wrong sect of Islam?

      The fact is that shabeer hassan will *never* condemn his murderous coreligionists—his Taqiyya is just intended to snow good Infidels and convince them that Islam is a ‘religion of peace’.

      Too bad that shabeer hassan is so bad at this—and that the murderous actions of the adherents of his bloody, vicious creed speak much louder than his lies and obfuscations.

      • shabeer_hassan says

        Oct 30, 2014 at 3:12 am

        Wellington # Islam is responsible over the centuries for some 270 million deaths……
        big ——fat——lie….
        i agreed some attack happend in the islamic world(past/present) ,but its not the name of ‘islam’,it happend for some immoral ruler or leaders,their political/ecenomical desire or earning some physical assets,number of evidence i prover islam prohibited killing inocent people,war declare only for the ppl who come to the islamic state with the intention of killing muslim/non muslim,looting their asset…….

        fighting for physial earning is not good for muslim,its good for the follower of satan ang their gangs:

        11: 15. Whosoever desires the life of the world and its glitter; to them We shall pay in full (the wages of) their deeds therein, and they will have no diminution therein.
        4:94. O you who believe! When you go (to fight) in the Cause of Allâh, verify (the truth), and say not to anyone who greets you (by embracing Islâm): “You are not a believer”; seeking the perishable goods of the worldly life. There are much more profits and booties with Allâh. Even as he is now, so were you yourselves before till Allâh conferred on you His Favors (i.e. guided you to Islâm), therefore, be cautious in discrimination. Allâh is Ever Well Aware of what you do.
        33:19. Being miserly towards you (as regards help and aid in Allâh’s Cause). Then when fear comes, you will see them looking to you, their eyes revolving like (those of) one over whom hovers death, but when the fear departs, they will smite you with sharp tongues, miserly towards (spending anything in any) good (and only covetous of booty and wealth). Such have not believed. Therefore Allâh makes their deeds fruitless, and that is ever easy for Allâh.
        48: 15. Those who lagged behind will say, when you set forth to take the spoils, “Allow us to follow you,” They want to change Allâh’s Words. Say: “You shall not follow us; thus Allâh has said beforehand.” Then they will say: “Nay, you envy us.” Nay, but they understand not except a little.
        3:14. Beautified for men is the love of things they covet; women, children, much of gold and silver (wealth), branded beautiful horses, cattle and well-tilled land. This is the pleasure of the present world’s life; but Allâh has the excellent return (Paradise with flowing rivers, etc.) with Him
        18: 46. Wealth and children are the adornment of the life of this world. But the good righteous deeds (five compulsory prayers, deeds of Allâh’s obedience, good and nice talk, remembrance of Allâh with glorification, praises and thanks, etc.), that last, are better with your Lord for rewards and better in respect of hope.
        20: 131. And strain not your eyes in longing for the things We have given for enjoyment to various groups of them (polytheists and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allâh), the splendour of the life of this world that We may test them thereby. But the provision (good reward in the Hereafter) of your Lord is better and more lasting.
        26: 109. “No reward do I ask of you for it (my Message of Islâmic Monotheism), my reward is only from the Lord of the ‘Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists).

        http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/claim_that_all_terrorists_are_muslims_ignores_history

        #gravenimage……….
        Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4399
        It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Muti’ who heard from his father and said: I heard the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) say on the day of the Conquest of Mecca: No Quraishite will be killed hound hand and foot from this day until the Day of judgment.

        is all Quraishite was muslim, the day of the Conquest of Mecca??????

        17: 33. And do not kill anyone(NOT ONLY MUSLIM) which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause.
        25: 68. And those who invoke not any other ilâh (god) along with Allah, nor kill such life (MUSLIM/NON MUSLIM)as Allah has forbidden…

        Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 58 :: Hadith 233
        Narrated ‘Ubada bin As Samit:
        I was one of the Naqibs who gave the (‘Aqaba) Pledge of Allegiance to Allah’s Apostle . We gave the pledge of allegiance to him that we would not worship anything other than Allah, would not steal, would not commit illegal sexual intercourse, would not kill a person(MUSLIM/NON MUSLIM) whose killing Allah has made illegal
        Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3142
        Abu Huraira, (Allah be pleased with him) reported. When Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, granted Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) victory over Mecca, he stood before people and praised and extolled Allah and then said:…………it (this territory) was not violable to anyone before me and it was made violable to me for an hour of a day, and it shall not be violable to anyone(MUSLIM/NON MUSLIM) after me.
        Bukhari :: Book 6 :: Volume 60 :: Hadith 134
        PROPHET SAYS “I do not know that killing a person( MUSLIM/NON MUSLIM)is lawful in Islam except in three cases: a married person committing illegal sexual intercourse, one who has murdered somebody unlawfully, or one who wages war against Allah and His Apostle.”

        LIKE 100 OF VERSES PROHIBIT KILLING (MUSLIM /NON MUSLIM)……..IF IT WAS ONLY FOR MUSLIM,WHY PROPHET USED THE WORD PERSON,PEOPLE , anyone, life INSTEAD OF MUSLIM…….?

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