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Ottawa shooter Michael Zehaf-Bibeau and hit-and-run jihadi Ahmad Rouleau influenced by UK jihadist Anjem Choudary

Oct 24, 2014 11:16 am By Robert Spencer

ChoudaryandAbuHamzaStanding behind Choudary in the photo here is Mujaahid Abu Hamza, aka Michael Adebolajo, who murdered British soldier Lee Rigby on a London street in 2013. Choudary is amassing quite a record, but the clueless and compromised British authorities would sooner race their nation on the road to ruin than do anything to rein in Choudary, since such an action would inevitably appear “Islamophobic.”

“Internet chiefs told to curb Islamists online,” by Christopher Hope, the Telegraph, October 24, 2014 (thanks to Roy):

Internet providers have been warned that the Government will force them to remove extremist material, as it emerged that a British hate preacher had influenced the man behind the attack on the Canadian parliament.

Senior British executives from Twitter, Google and Facebook were summoned to Downing Street on Thursday and told to do more to take action to curb the online activities of extremists.

The Daily Telegraph can disclose that the Home Office and Crown Prosecution Service are in talks about using court orders to ensure that internet providers such as

BT and Virgin immediately remove extremist propaganda.

The warning came as it transpired that Britain’s most high-profile radical Islamist preacher, Anjem Choudary, had influenced the man involved in the Ottawa attack.

Canadian police are investigating Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, a Muslim convert, as a suspect in the attacks in and around Canada’s parliament building on Wednesday in which a soldier was shot dead.

There were reports in Canada that Zehaf-Bibeau and another Islamic convert, Martin Ahmad Rouleau, had been influenced by Choudary. The radical cleric was one of nine men arrested last month by Scotland Yard officers as part of an investigation into Islamist terrorism.

Rouleau’s Twitter account showed that he followed several radical preachers, including Choudary, who tweeted that he hoped that the Canadian attacker would be admitted to heaven.

However, Choudary said: “The fact that someone follows you on Twitter does not mean you necessarily influenced him to do anything.”…

Indeed not. But when he murders a Canadian soldier and shoots up the Parliament building after you have praised and encouraged such actions, there may be some reason to believe you have indeed influenced him.

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  1. mariam rove says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 11:26 am

    after his pedophile prophet this guy is the most vile of them all. m

    • jihad3tracker says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 11:36 am

      Yes, Mariam, I agree on that.

      If JW readers here want to get the honestly-spoken hatred of Islam, watch some vids by this guy.

      • mariam rove says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 11:46 am

        Yes. There a ton of his videos on youtube and everyone should see them. M

    • Don McKellar says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 12:24 pm

      I did a quick search and watched the exerpts from an interview on Hannity. What a piece of garbage this puke is. The taquiyya mask is off this guy, isn’t it? Absolute pure Islam; absolute pure evil.

      • Champ says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 12:54 pm

        The taquiyya mask is off this guy, isn’t it? Absolute pure Islam; absolute pure evil.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Exactly, Don! And I actually prefer honest, bare-faced devout muslims like him–albeit quite evil, yes–over those that come across as an angel-of-light (as satan sometimes appears) and lie through their teeth by claiming that islam is a “religion of peace”, etc, etc. …

        islam is evil to the core. Period.

      • PRCS says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 2:03 pm

        The problem with those so-called “experts” (save Andrew Bostom–whom Hannity blew off) ever bothers to tell Fox personnel that there is NO such thing as “radical” Islam.

        The general public remains ignorant about written, Orthodox Islam–in great measure–because the media constantly parrots the utterly false notion of an always unspecified, separate, radical “version” of Islam.

        Dear, dear Greta’s special tonight “The lone wolves of terror” will likely regurgitate more than a few of the phrases typically used to create the impression that Islam comes in two flavors (the wonderful, peaceful “version” and the ugly, awful “version” reserved for “extremists”).

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm

          Yes, and the problem with frank Muslims like Chowdery is that their speech & behavior tends to reinforce the PC MC need to distinguish between Extremist Radical Muslims over here, and the (Vast) Majority of Harmless Law-Abiding Muslims over there.

          He’s like a Jihad Clown who with his flaming juggling act flamboyantly calls attention to himself, in order to distract the PC MC idiot (a bigger clown but, alas, numbering in the millions throughout the West) from the broader, deeper problem of general Muslim immigration/infiltration/invasion of the West.

  2. Beagle says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 11:34 am

    Too bad he met party boy Anjem so late in his metamorphosis from party butterfly to grim and murderous Islamic caterpillar.

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/06/15/uk-muslim-hate-preacher-anjem-choudary-wants-his-old-party-boy-pictures-scrubbed-from-the-internet/

    • bernie says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 8:28 pm

      According to an article here on JW somewhere, Mr. Choudary used to be quite “the life if the party”, and guzzled ale, leered at erotic magazines, smoked weed, and bedded many kuffar lasses. Well, at least those girls were young adults and the relationships were consensual, apparently (unlike the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs in Jolly Olde England).

  3. gp says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 11:40 am

    This guy is a danger to civilized people everywhere. He uses the most violent and hate filled of the satanic verses to create his Manchurian Candidates and goad them into murderous jihad. He has blood on his hands.

    The real kicker is he does this while receiving about $40,000 year in the dole. So he gets paid by the British government to promote hate, inspire terrorism, and preach on the destruction of the West.

    • PRCS says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 2:10 pm

      I don’t think Choudhary is a danger.

      The more he tells the truth–in public–about written, Orthodox Islam’s ugliness, the better.

      • mortimer says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 3:55 pm

        Agree. Choudhary tells the truth. His version of Islam is the same as that documented by Robert Spencer.

        Leftists hate Choudhary because he exposes them as the dupes of the duplicitous, taqiyya-artist mullahs.

        • voegelinian says

          Oct 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm

          No, Chowdery is actually useful to the Leftists, in that he embodies the Extremist Radical Muslim — as opposed to the putative (Vast) Majority of Harmless Law-Abiding Muslims. No matter how flamingly radical Chowdery’s rhetoric is, the Leftists (and the PC MCs, a broader demographic ignored by most JWers as a distinct demographic) can simply chalk it up to, and dismiss it as, “Extremism” that has “Hijacked” and “Twisted” the “Religion of Peace” (you know, “all religions have their extremists” yadda yadda sim-sim sala-bim).

      • gp says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 6:39 pm

        Is that three recent deaths and assorted terror and mayhem attributed to the followers of his teachings? Yes, he is open and notorious in his teachings, but dangerous.

  4. steakman says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Kudo’s to the RCMP for calling a terrorist a G’damn Terrorist and following that direction of investigation….sadly the rest of the so called enlightened nations of the planet..incl the US..are walking around with eyes WIDE shut.

    To the Jihadi’s and wannabe’s..Canadians are vigilant and watching. We will have no issue whatsoever sending you to your 72 tuberculoid sows that await you in HELL.

    • PRCS says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Terrorism?

      IMO, terrorism is a tactic, and a byproduct of the jihad; primarily violent jihad.

      The word terrorism not only doesn’t adequately define the problem, it obfuscates it.

      • mortimer says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 4:00 pm

        Dear PRCS,

        What is Allah’s opinion? Koran 8.60 – ‘turhibunna’… (‘terrorize them’).

        • PRCS says

          Oct 24, 2014 at 9:47 pm

          “What is Allah’s opinion? Koran 8.60 – ‘turhibunna’… (‘terrorize them’).”

          But, by what actions was and is that terror instilled?

      • voegelinian says

        Oct 25, 2014 at 2:57 pm

        Yes, the terror tactic is a crucial arrow in the quiver of Islam, but only an arrow. To fixate on the arrow fired at us and ignore the full quiver of other tactics, and by extension to ignore the ones firing the arrow and their motivation and inspiration, is not only silly, it is reckless.

        A slightly different misapprehension is to fuse the arrow, the tactic, with the overall motivation & inspiration, as though Muslims were nihilist barbarians (or mere “savages”) who only believe in Terror and nothing else. But that would be to make the mistake of tending to think that Muslims have no guiding ideology and that this ideology has no positive content motivating and inspiring and guiding them. This would be a stupid miscalculation that would impair our ability to know our enemy.

    • mortimer says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 3:58 pm

      Prime Minister Steve Harper called the terrorist ‘a terrorist’.

      Justin Trudeau, a jihad defender and useful idiot, was called ‘puerile’ by the Globe and Mail, Canada’s major newspaper.

  5. Beagle says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Typical government blame shifting in the article:

    “Senior British executives from Twitter, Google and Facebook were summoned to Downing Street on Thursday and told to do more to take action to curb the online activities of extremists.”
    — —

    It wuz da Intarwebz wot dun it!

    Western governments let in millions of Muslims in huge groups at a time and allowed them to set up sharia exclusion zones, even their own sharia courts and Islamic schools. They are encouraged not to assimilate, the opposite in fact. Politicians gave mosques special exemptions from ordinary law enforcement, even allowed thousands of girls to be raped to avoid a charge of “racism”.

    You remember when Italian restaurant investigations had to go through the Sensitive Operations Review Committee of the Justice Department during the Mafia and Prohibition days of the 1920s, right? Yeah, of course not, because nobody was suicidally PC stupid back then. Everyone understood you investigated where the gangsters spent their time.

    But now that government policy has backfired spectacularly all over the dhimmified and clueless West, it’s time to blame a mode of communication owned by private interests.

    • RonaldB says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 12:32 pm

      “But now that government policy has backfired spectacularly all over the dhimmified and clueless West, it’s time to blame a mode of communication owned by private interests.”

      I agree, Beagle.

      And even worse, once the British authorities establish the principle they can censor the internet on the grounds of public interest, they are more likely to go after anti-jihad websites than jihad. The reason is that it’s much safer to go after civilized, law-abiding people than after violent sociopaths. The Muslims will exert continual pressure to censor information critical of Islam, and the authorities, interested mainly in avoiding problems, will find it convenient to give in.

      I don’t disagree with the principle of giving the government increased powers during a war. But, the situation becomes different when the government has already indicated its willingness, its positive intention, to surrender to the enemy.

      • Beagle says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 1:11 pm

        Western governments often act as accessories after the fact in concealing the jihad motivations of murderous mujahids and spend much of their time looking into their peaceful domestic political opposition. They even conduct their counter-terror exercises against imaginary patriot groups here in the US. So yes, I’m also more than a little hesitant to grant any more power to a government already lying, corrupted by Islamic influence, and systematically abusing the war powers it has to spy on every American.

    • John C. Barile says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 12:38 pm

      Ah, days gone by. My paternal grandfather had his restaurant smashed to bits because it led to an independently operated speakeasy adjacent to it. No compensation for him, alas. Imagine that, those Feds back then zealously enforcing laws, rather than ignoring, subverting, or overturning them!

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 25, 2014 at 6:19 am

        ”Ah, days gone by. My paternal grandfather had his restaurant smashed to bits because it led to an independently operated speakeasy adjacent to it. No compensation for him, alas.”

        Why did the FBI smash your grandfather’s restaurant, and not the speakeasy *next* to it ? That doesn’t seem to me to be anything to *celebrate* !

        ”Imagine that, those Feds back then zealously enforcing laws, rather than ignoring, subverting, or overturning them !”

        Again, if your grandfather wasn’t serving alcohol, it wasn’t him breaking the law, but the speakeasy.

        Am I missing something here ?

        • John C. Barile says

          Oct 25, 2014 at 8:01 pm

          That the speakeasy was likewise trashed, totaled, wrecked–it goes without saying, JM. I neglected to mention it, ’cause it seemed quite implicit.

          I suppose they were Treasury agents. Too bad we didn’t have a Sensitive Operations Review Committee of the U.S. Justice Department back then, to consider the delicate cultural sensibilities of Italo-American entrepreneurs. Like Beagle said, sarcastically.

  6. Salah says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    “The radical cleric (Choudary) was one of nine men arrested last month by Scotland Yard officers…”

    Arrested…then what? does anybody know? is the UK finally waking up or is it just me…dreaming?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/11095341/Britain-to-curb-Muslim-Brotherhood-operations-in-London.html

    • Judi says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 12:16 pm

      Salah – true to form he was bailed after a couple of days!

      • Salah says

        Oct 24, 2014 at 12:31 pm

        That’s what I thought. Thank you, Judi.

        • NoName says

          Oct 24, 2014 at 12:40 pm

          Not only was he bailed out, he continues to spew the truth of the Quran to every young Muslim in Britain and the truth is to kill the infidel. They did take his passport though.

    • gp says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 6:43 pm

      Clearly it was a catch and release program…

  7. Dave J says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:15 pm

    Its Ebolaism, spread by words instead of fluids, but just as deadly.

    Isn’t incitement to murder a crime, or is it just denouncing such incitement?

  8. Wellington says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Of course the real danger to the UK isn’t someone like Anjem Choudary but rather the likes of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. How wise and courageous of British authorities to disallow Spencer and Geller from visiting Britain. Hey, who could doubt it?

    • gp says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 6:57 pm

      The muslim fifth column is so large, so godawful large in America, the UK and throughout the West, the praises of Islam by the politicians, the media, academia, and leftists, liberals, and socialists alike serves as a collective lullaby used to constantly soothe and placate the masses. At any time they could rise up from within and cause untold destruction and mayhem. America and the West would be wholly unprepared for the enormity of such an onslaught.

      Could you imagine if each mosque in the West became a deliberte and coordinated military base for Islamic jihadi operations within? Well Thompson did:

      “America’s military is strong abroad, but they have never faced an internal mass revolt,” Thompson posted. “They are weaker at home. We are scattered and decentralized, we can use this as an advantage. They are centralized and strong, which can be exploited as a weakness. Think of a swarm of bees (negroes) that surround and attack an elephant (America) to death.”

  9. Roderick MacUalraig says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    Sergeant At Arms Vickers, the Freedom Fighter!

    A warrior for liberty loving human beings.

    I wear hoodies around base as I’m doing ball-busting PT, wish I had one with his likeness on it, Che style maybe… or maybe something different?

    Fawstin?

  10. Ha Meshuga says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:38 pm

    Heres that pos from a few weeks back, telling us their desires….and for anyone who doesnt know MEMRI, acquaint yourselves……

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4562.htm

    • Lu says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 3:24 pm

      What a blend of fascism and communism; I have never thought that such an amalgam is possible. This mixture of both is even more dangerous: its utterly barbarian, insane and sadistic at that.

      Living in proud Texas, I should stick to the local custom: it’s time to replenish ammo!

  11. Roderick MacUalraig says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    I can watch this over and over and over again:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCt4a4ElZsU

    Free humans need heroes, and this is surely one!

    • Beagle says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 1:18 pm

      Let’s say we had security services interested in heading off terror instead of being politically correct over all other concerns and actually covering up jihad terror after the fact… Imagine.

      I would think the three people who gave that video a thumbs down would be worth a look.

      • Mirren10 says

        Oct 25, 2014 at 6:45 am

        ”I would think the three people who gave that video a thumbs down would be worth a look.’

        Yes.

        Is anyone looking for the two men Zehaf-Bibeau was talking to about islam, and getting them to pray 5 times a day ? They damn well should be.

    • Lu says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 2:50 pm

      Truly awesome! Very moving and inspiring at the same time.

    • Jen says

      Oct 25, 2014 at 12:21 am

      Good man! He deserves it.

    • Mirren10 says

      Oct 25, 2014 at 6:41 am

      *Excellent*. It made me cry.

      • Roderick MacUalraig says

        Oct 25, 2014 at 6:50 am

        Me too! He looked so humbled by that show of honor, thanks and respect from his countrymen & women.

  12. Truth says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    The UK is producing terrorists by the 1000’s. Action might need to be taken against the UK.

  13. Champ says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    Ottawa shooter Michael Zehaf-Bibeau and hit-and-run jihadi Ahmad Rouleau influenced by UK jihadist Anjem Choudary

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And they are both influenced by evil islam, the unholy quran, the man himself: vile muhammad (perdition be upon him), and other islamic texts …

  14. Paula Boddington says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 1:56 pm

    I wonder how extremist material will be defined. There are lots of websites, including this one, which explain that Islamic texts say that believers should fight unbelievers. So, how to distinguish these from Islamic websites explaining that believers should fight unbelievers, – these websites might not even necessarily add ‘so you should therefore go and fight’ – in other words, how is the government going to discriminate between sites warning about the links between Islam and violence, and sites encouraging the links between Islam and violence? Could be very tricky.

    • bobm says

      Oct 24, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      @ Paula… well Paula ; you just touched one of the “stones in the foundation of islam.. the concept of trickery.. one of the names of their demonic master.. the trickster.. it (islam) is rooted and designed in deceit, fear ignorance and TRICKERY.

  15. PRCS says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 2:25 pm

    “I wonder how extremist material will be defined.”

    The first thing to be done (which won’t be done) is for our “leaders” and “journalists” to stop referring to compliance with Qur’an and Sunnah as “extremism”.

    Would those same people refer to the Pope as an extremist?

    The real issue, of course, is what Qur’an and Sunnah actually say/teach/command/demand/expect and that they are applicable to every Muslim, everywhere.

    Even Muslims in America–despite their feigned opposition to violence.

    • voegelinian says

      Oct 25, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      All Muslims. The burden of proof should be reversed, and ruthlessly stringent.

  16. bobm says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 3:12 pm

    counseling to murder.. treason.sedition.etc. what is this guy and his gang doing anywhere outside a jail cell or straight jacket under psychotropic drugs.

  17. bobm says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 3:17 pm

    boys from the mosque up the street all sunny and smiley in passingtoday.. even said “god ” bless you’ .. snakes with a smile painted on their jaw..”god”.
    their demon king bless you… or else.

  18. gary fouse says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 5:11 pm

    If the Brits can lock up Tommy Robinson, surely they can lock this guy up. Charge him with conspiracy to commit mopery or anything.

  19. Dan says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm

    Isis misfits trained by misfits

  20. Edgar Davidson says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    I have some respect for Choudary because – unlike every mainstream politician and every Islamic apologist who appears in the media to spew their ‘religion of peace# nonsense – Choudary makes it very clear what the goals of Islam are … and he really is an expert in Islam. That means he is not only providing the British public with very important insights, but that in the long term he is a far lesser risk than media darlings like Baroness Warsi and Mehdi Hasan:
    http://edgar1981.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/why-i-have-some-respect-for-anjem.html

  21. pongidae rex says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    The problem is not Islam. Islam has not changed in over a thousand years. What is unprecedented is the total socio-political collapse of the West in confronting a fascist movement masquerading as a religion. A Roosevelt, or Eisenhower would have made short work of these scum. Instead, we blindfold and tie the hands of a totally useless Trillion dollar military and worry more about the ‘human rights’ of terrorists than we do about their victims.

  22. Jen says

    Oct 24, 2014 at 10:09 pm

    Oh yes, yes, yes. The grotesque Anjem Choudary….There are times when I listen to him speak and wish I could pull him from inside the computer screen and really tell him to his face, what a poor excuse for a human being that he is.
    I don’t know how Robert Spencer handles these matters so calmly.

    I remember watching one video, I believe it was Anjem and another jihadist if I remember rightly, and the other jihadist told Robert Spencer that he was just “jealous” of Islam or something absurd like that. Hmmmm yes…I’m overflowing with jealously.

    When anyone can become a Muslim that easily, without even needing to reign in your behaviour, but instead are given a free-for-all right to behave as evil and sordid as you please, you can clearly see the barriers to entry of the Islam gang is ever so high. It would make sense then, that we are all just jealous of Islam! That must be it.

  23. pumbar says

    Oct 25, 2014 at 1:59 am

    Slimjim Chunderarse vs Douglas Murray:

    • Jen says

      Oct 25, 2014 at 3:49 am

      God I felt sick watching this video. That smile on his face. Truly the most vile creature you could come across. Anjem Choudary denied in another video that non-Muslims were being slaughtered and said they were “embracing” Islam as though this happened voluntarily. I could tell from his facial expression that he knows this isn’t true. He knows the truth, but he’s so evil and twisted that providing the Islamic agenda can push forward unabated, none of this suffering is relevant to him. This individual has, and never will, contribute anything worthwhile to humanity. Enjoy your place in hell Anjem.

      • pumbar says

        Oct 25, 2014 at 5:42 am

        I know exactly what you mean. I can’t wait until my fellow countrymen wipe that horrible, tight lipped smile off his face.

  24. Lesley Robinson says

    Oct 25, 2014 at 5:35 am

    Along with many others, I’ve called for this foul, disgusting moslem to be eradicated in some way. I mean, what are the secret services paid for?

  25. Mirren10 says

    Oct 25, 2014 at 6:51 am

    ”Internet providers have been warned that the Government will force them to remove extremist material, as it emerged that a British hate preacher had influenced the man behind the attack on the Canadian parliament.

    Senior British executives from Twitter, Google and Facebook were summoned to Downing Street on Thursday and told to do more to take action to curb the online activities of extremists.

    The Daily Telegraph can disclose that the Home Office and Crown Prosecution Service are in talks about using court orders to ensure that internet providers such as

    BT and Virgin immediately remove extremist propaganda”

    I am **totally** against this.

    I loathe Choudhary, and those like him, but this will be used to control and censor sites like this one, *not* creatures like Choudhary.

    No government should have powers like this, *none* of them can be trusted.

  26. DiMu says

    Oct 25, 2014 at 10:21 am

    The fact that this s.h..i.t.house rat is still breathing is the biggest indictment of the British Government as a bunch of cowards.

  27. Mark says

    Oct 25, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    As satan tells choudry, in his quran, ‘NO MUSLIM WILL ESCAPE HELL’

    But then every now and again on one forum, another muslim will admit they know allah is satan but will still follow him.

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