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Islamic Republic of Pakistan: Muslim group asks government to declare jihad against India

Oct 10, 2014 10:51 pm By Robert Spencer

jihadprotestersDid the Pakistani government accordingly undertake an interior spiritual struggle against India? Or did it make arrangements to drop off Indian kids at school? This kind of story exposes the ridiculousness of what Muslim spokesmen in the West say about jihad. The Jamaatud Dawa supporters know that when they call for jihad, they’re calling for armed struggle against Infidels, and they know that the Pakistani government will know that as well. They know that everyone in Pakistan will know what they mean. The only people who aren’t sure what is meant by the word “jihad” are the bemused and ignorant marks of deceptive Islamic supremacists in the West.

“JuD rally asks govt to declare jihad against India,” Dawn, October 11, 2014:

KARACHI: A rally organised by the Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) on Friday condemned what it described as unprovoked Indian firing along the working boundary and the Line of Control and called upon the Pakistan government to declare jihad against India.

A large number of JuD workers and sympathisers converged on the Karachi Press Club to denounce Indian aggression that claimed lives of several innocent citizens.

Carrying banners and placards inscribed with the demand to wage jihad against India, the participants in the rally shouted slogans and vowed to lay down their lives to defend their motherland.

Besides JuD’s Karachi chief Dr Muzammil Iqbal Hashmi, leaders of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz, Jamaat-i-Islami, Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl, Jamiat Ulema-i-Pakistan, and Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf also addressed the rally.

Speaking on the occasion, Dr Hashmi said that terrorism on the Sialkot working boundary was part of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s policy of aggression, as he wanted to take advantage of Pakistan’s internal problems.

“India should know that every citizen of Pakistan is ready to sacrifice his life for the protection of his country,” he said, adding that the whole nation was behind the armed forces in their action to counter Indian aggression.

JI leader Osama Razi said that India was violating the international borders in connivance with the United States.

Other leaders also asked the government of Pakistan to give a ‘befitting response’ to unprovoked Indian aggression They said that Pakistani nation knew how to respond to the Indian threat and the nuclear bomb was made for the defence of the country.

They criticised the human rights organisations for keeping quiet about the Indian aggression.

They also paid tribute to the JuD for holding the event and inviting several political and religious parties to show unity….

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  1. Beagle says

    Oct 10, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    What happened? “A firing” has Dr Hashmi willing to martyr everyone in Pakistan. Seems reasonable.

  2. nacazo says

    Oct 10, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    usually there is no way of performing controlled experiments with fully functional societies. in this case we do. two very similar societies were born at the time of indian independence from great britain. the only difference was thhat one of this societies was based on islam, the other although having muslims was not vased on islam. 70 years later the results are obvious. pakistan is a failed country. india although having a lot of problems is a thriving democracy.

    • Rob says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 2:56 am

      A certain ME country was formed at the same time as Pakistan and was immediately attacked by its neighbours. Nonetheless it has gone on to be a thriving, innovative democracy.
      I don’t recall Pakistan being immediately attacked after its formation by neighbouring India, China, Afghanistan or Burma.
      It has gone from bad to worse to basketcase since then and on the way (in the 70s) raping and murdering 000s of its citizens in East Pakistan – now Bangladesh.

      • Jerry says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 3:23 pm

        A certain ME formed at the same time as Phakistan, has been been supplying India with some weapon and surveillance systems that may assist India to resist and defeat any Phakistani attemt at Jihad against India.

        • Rob says

          Oct 11, 2014 at 5:13 pm

          Following the Mumbai attacks and the heinous murder* of the Rabbi and his wife at the Jewish Centre, I feel that India and Israel would have a great deal in common.
          The strange thing is that PM Modi has made huge conciliatory moves towards Pakistan over recent weeks.
          *Google for details if you have the stomach for it.
          My fervent wish is that Mossad has the Pak director of the attacks on its list.

        • The renegade says

          Oct 12, 2014 at 2:30 am

          India and Israel will always be friends as both Hindus and Jews have borne the brunt for centuries of Islamic jihad and know first hand what it’s all about.

          PM Modi has a billion plus problems to solve at home, to do that we need a quiet neighbour hood and have to taken a pragmatic approach as Muslim Pakistan is good at playing victim and getting sympathy of the West. It is a policy of containment as against a full blown confrontation and we have had fours wars with these a@@h@@@@ already and have beaten them every single time.

          To build India’s strength we need to focus on economy unlike Pakistan that has these oil rich Arab countries and US propping them up with aid which they use for their military. India does not spend money on wars with Mosquitos like Pakistan. Instead, we put up mosquito nets to stop these lunatics from coming across the border in Kashmir rather than going into jungle Pakistan and trying to kill every mosquito there which is impossible to do with out using Nukes e.g look at US in Iraq, Afghanistan.

          Militarily India’s co-operation with Israel has been the highest at any point in its history. India is the only country in South Asia that has synagogues and Jews freely practice their faith along with Parsis( zoroastrians from Iran) and many more including our Muslim brothers who apparently given a chance won’t hesitate to kill us.

          But that’s the bad part of a Hindu philosophy depending on how you see it – live and let live.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 6:26 am

      Exactly.

    • Bradamante says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 8:55 am

      That is a very astute observation.

  3. Jade says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 12:50 am

    Dear India-wipe ’em off the map.

    • JIMJFOX says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 1:56 am

      Seconded.

      • John in Southport says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 6:04 am

        Thirded !

        • Sourabh says

          Oct 11, 2014 at 6:20 am

          Foured!
          The real reason behind recent Indo-Pak firing: Pak wants to infiltrate their Jihadists/terrorists into India through LoC (Line of Control). They can’t do it after October since it snows a lot in Kashmir around mid October.
          But We have got the Modi on top this time. He is gonna make Pakistan’s adventurism unaffordable!

        • Kepha says

          Oct 11, 2014 at 2:00 pm

          FIfthed! Jai Hind! Jai Hind! Jai Hind! That country just northwest of India should be renamed Pathologicalstan.

    • Kanika says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 3:07 am

      With pleasure 😉

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 7:03 am

      Sorry to ruin the wipe them off the face of the earth genocidal fantasy bandwagon but wouldn’t this involve killing women and children.
      I hope some of these commenters are referring to jihadis and not civilians.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 10:16 am

      On that point, when Modi recently met with Bibi, you can bet that the availability of the Iron Dome came up.

    • Jerry says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 3:25 pm

      Dear India, Just wipe them off your ass.

  4. sidney penny says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 1:20 am

    What is jihad.Read it all.It is free.Educated yourself.

    If Robert Spencer can learn from him ,so can you.

    I read this book and did not find anything about taking your children to school or doing your exercise or overcoming an internal spiritual struggle.?

    “They know that everyone in Pakistan will know what they mean. ”

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/jihad/

    JIHÃD

    THE ISLAMIC DOCTRINE OF PERMANENT WAR

    Jihãd has five clear components, and a complete understanding of the subject requires a discussion of each one of them.

    Thus jihãd stands for

    (1) Forcible expansion of Islam;
    (2) Destruction of infidels;
    (3) Establishment of jizyah on the subdued infidel population;
    (4) Plunder in the form of properties wrested from infidels; and
    (5) Plunder in the form of enslaved female and child population acquired from the vanquished infidels.

    Jihad has never stopped, not in India,not anywhere.

    Did you notice the title of the book?

    PERMANENT

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 10:27 am

      (2) Destruction of infidels

      Islam sets itself as a corrective belief system in the very first ayat of the Holy Ko-Ran. The meme that god is furiously angry at the Infidels for botching what he gave them runs throughout the Ko-Ran; so does the corollary that it is the duty of all Moslems everywhere to see to correction of the mistake. Permanently.

    • Beagle says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:42 pm

      The book online is an excellent resource, thanks. But even more illustrative is the bloody expansion of Islam into South Asia. From the pyramids of human heads created by one Muslim aggressor after another, for centuries, to a modern nuclear standoff.

      Total death toll? 80,000,000, 100,000,000? Nobody actually knows as it is shrouded in the mists of time, and ongoing. The Mumbai Massacre is a modern extension of Tamerlane’s legacy.

      The actual history of the dharmic religions in South Asia proves the point of the book title.

    • TH says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 1:46 pm

      As regards the book linked, it does seem to present a well founded version of jihad. However, in the Foreword by SITA RAM GOEL, Islam and Christianity are bunched together as if Christianity were somehow like Islam. The only reality in Christian history like holy ware is the Cruzades. They were convoked by the Pope and were in reality defensive campaigns, which finally failed. There were also atrocities which are in no way in accordance with Christian doctrine. There is also the idea that the arrival of Christianity in India by the Portuguese was somehow similar to Islamic jihad . The Portuguese arrived in India moved mainly by commercial motives and obviously they were accompanied by mssionaries, but neither they nor the Spaniards in America imposed Christianity by means of a Christian version of jihad. The English invented the Black Legend which is anti-Spanish and anti-Catholic propaganda.

      • Cicero says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 3:20 pm

        The late Sita Ram Goel. Conflated both. religions since both I their different ways have for several hundred years gnawed /blasted their way through the fabric of Indian society.
        I can write on this topic but please let us not deflect from our combined efforts to preserve, protect our societies whilst at the same time fight against. Adharmic forces. Let us focus on what unites us and forget our differences . Our time and energies are too precious to waste.
        All the same Sita Ram Goel. Was a prolific and original Indian thinker much maligned in Indian society and media. During his lifetime . Truth always triumphs in the end ” Satyameva Jayate! “

  5. The renegade says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 4:02 am

    Afghanistan and Pakistan once the land where Indus valley civilization and Vedas were born, thrived and where Buddhism/ Hinduism flourished has descended into a cess pool of hatred, bigotry, violence, blood shed and intolerance becoming the most dangerous place in the world.

    I am an Indian, although my views may seem far-fetched, i will always believe that my brothers and sisters in Afghanistan and Pakistan that have a common ancestry, history and culture with India whose memory of this have been wiped out from their history, minds and culture due to the 1400 + years of Islamic jihad, brutality, barbarity and blood-shed that has killed almost 150 + million Hindus (which includes their own ancestors) in the Islamic genocide and forced conversion in this region, who have sleeping Hindu genes amongst present day Muslims that will one day awaken when Islam is exposed for the ideology that it truly is and is rejected by all —

    It is the “Mein Kamph” of a very evil Arab man named Muhammad and is not the word of God. The resemblence/ similarities with Fascism / communism/ Nazism is uncanny:

    – Total solutions for every thing: It is a “Totalitarianism” covers governance, warfare, business, justice and personal life;
    – Paradise as a reward for Sins: Rewards paradise for followers that submit to its blood lust;
    – Kills people who question the ideology or disagree with it;
    – Kills people who question the founder of this evil ideology;
    – Cult of Muhammad: Followers need to be behave and emulate its leader Muhammad who slept with the wives of the husbands he butchered in his conquests, who when he had whims of sleeping with young girls said God wanted this for him;
    – Women subjugation: Men have all the rights and power, if a women is raped, man will be released if there are at least not less than 5 witnesses (or so); hail to Men/ Fatherland;
    – Cannot believe in God if you dont believe the version of God that Muhammad did!: God is hateful, he is the ultimate deceiver and lives were meant only for suffering and having fun/ joy is a crime;
    – dress code: skull caps, “capser” white dress and head down hijabs; for me this means what ever filthy crap has gone inside those minds will stay there and never come out and any thing good also will not find its way in through that sort of dress that covers the mind;
    – brain washing: ideology/ doctrine is taught and inculcated from childhood, in schools and daily life. Religion takes priority over work, prayer time stops all business, work and school and happens 5 times in the day;
    – eating: they dont have a problem killing and eating animals, but will object to the manner in which it is killed – HALAL!!; but when it comes to killing/amputating humans they show no mercy!!!!!!
    – supremism: Islam is shoved down throats of people who dont want to follow it, if a muslim fasts they consider it a sin if some one else eats;
    – enemies: knowledge and truth are its enemies, it seeks to destroy this when it gets the opportunity e.g. destruction of Nalanda;
    – stealing: it justifies crimes against non believers. Jizziya is imposed on non-muslims. Mohammad raided and stole caravans to build up his war chest and justified it by saying that since they are non believers god permitted it; God rewards sins as long as it is against non believers;

    Islam is not our culture, not our way of life and every human being who loves life and values life needs to reject Islam.

    You drink the chalice of Islam, a blood thirsty demon you will become like ISIS.

    No Ladies and Gentleman, ISIS is not reading from a different Quran, they are reading from the Quran that 1 billion plus humanity is reading from which makes this even more scary and these 1 billion plus people consider Muhammad to be an “Ideal man”……….

    Reject Islam, reject facism…

    “Sanathana Dharma” known by west as Hinduism i.e. Universal religion – Live and let live, one God and many different paths to attain God/ the Universal Truth…….

    Human spirit is free, it will ultimate break the shackles of Islam and set itself free. No doctrine that has a an ideology of enslaving human mind and spirit has lasted through out human history. Like Nazism, communism… Islam will die ultimately – whether it is a brutal finish or a whimpher only time will tell…

    i hope i see the day that this awakening will happen at least during my life time so that there will be better days for all of God’s creatures of this earth…..

    Peace for all!!!

    • Salah says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 11:47 am

      “1 billion plus people consider Muhammad to be an “Ideal man”………. ”

      Good post. Thank you.
      Indeed, they do consider this vermin to be an “ideal man”. But why?
      Some of them are as evil/pervert as Muhammad was.
      Others don’t really know that Muhammad was evil/pervert, thanks to their liar Imams.
      Others KNOW, but are too afraid to say it outloud.

      Unveiling Muhammad, the perfect man of Islam (pps):
      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html

    • Beagle says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:45 pm

      Good post. I could have scrolled down a bit more and simply agreed with you.

    • TH says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 1:50 pm

      A very good summary of the absolutely perverse and diabolical ideology which is Islam and its flase prophet.

    • Jen says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 9:32 pm

      This is a good post and I agree with you.

      “Paradise as a reward for Sins” — the perfect description of Islam.

      Never mind the other garble that’s written in Islam. At the core of this religion is the idea that you should be rewarded for doing bad things (including by a brothel of 72 Virgins, no less). And in addition, you are not encouraged to do good by all of humanity- only your own Muslim “brothers and sisters.”

      They should reclassify this religion and put it in another category. Especially for tax purposes.

      The religion serves nobody except Muslims themselves. And even then, Muslims end up being victims of their own religion with all their harsh rules and lack of mercy. There is no hope for peace in Islam.

      • The renegade says

        Oct 12, 2014 at 1:50 am

        Agreed, peace will always elude Islam because it doesn’t exhibit the characteristics of a religion.

        Religion is defined as a belief and worship of god.

        Islam is turning out to be cult – political ideology I.e. Worship and belief of an evil personality named Mohammad as his followers try and emulate/ repeat all the evil things that he did. If you seen the footage of protests in London after the Danish cartoons, Muslims were chanting we will nuke Denmark, kill your husbands and take your wives as war booty, this is exactly what Muhammad did. He has become a means and justification for Muslims to commit heinous acts. In other religions a sin is a sin irrespective of against whom you are committing it against.

        In Islam it gives them a get out of jail free card if the recipient of evil is a non Muslim. No wonder so many inmates are embracing Islam as it channels the bad mojo of its follower.

        Islam can perpetually be at war or jihad with non Muslims until they subjugate to Islam, which explains why since the rise of Islam in 650 ad these guys have been going on with their jihadist conquest all over the world. Saudi Arabia is 100 percent Muslim because of this. Pakistan and Bangladesh had sizeable minority populations when they got independence, but Hindus were driven out and now are just 1-2%. This has Also happened in Kashmir valley.

        They were stopped in Spain, Austria, mainland India and China… But due to nature of jihad they kept coming back and back and Hindus/ Christians did not decisively defeat them by taking the fight to the source I.e. Mainland Arabia and killing the grass root ideology.

        Followers of other religions are not cold blooded killers like Islam and we have a conscience, with Islam they are very clear – when facing a non believer go for his neck and then take his wife and family as sex slaves. This is what ISIS is doing. This is how Sati system in Hinduism has it origins when Muslims won a war, Hindu wives along with children leapt into burning funeral pyre of husbands to die lest they be taken as slaves.

        Islam is drenched in blood and tears of millions of innocents.

        Islam needs to be de-recognised as a religion and treated as a cult similar to Nazism. Islam has no place in modern world or in a democracy. Religion should make a person a better human being, not an intolerant and blood thirsty psychopath.

  6. dumbledoresarmy says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 6:40 am

    Ladies and gentlemen.

    The Muslims are claiming that India has engaged in “unprovoked” cross-border firing into Pakistan.

    NONSENSE.

    Absolutely typical mohammedan nonsense-and-lies.

    I went and consulted the Times of India and The Hindu.

    The timeline runs, so far as I can see, something like this.

    1/ there was exchange of fire during August

    2/ during September, there was “quiet”.

    3/ Beginning on Wednesday, 1st October, and continuing on Thursday and Friday, Pakistani Muslims fired into India, across the border.

    India responded.

    *More* Muslim attacks across the border took place.

    India responded. Some Muslim civilians got killed in the process.

    NOW the Muslims are howling and wailing and pretending that they are poor little innocent victims.

    Except that there are far fewer foreign journalists in that part of Pakistan, than there are in Gaza, what is going on here is *exactly* what has been going on in southern Israel.

    The Muslims needle, needle, needle their next-door Infidel entity until that entity, driven beyond all reasonable endurance, responds in sheer self-defence; at which point the Muslims somehow manage to con everyone into believing that all the prior Muslim provocations didn’t happen, and that *they* (the Muslims) are innocent victims of Eeevil Infidel Aggression.

    A few links, here, to items in the Indian press (to which I hope that our Indian non-Muslim readers and lurkers may like to add and upon which they are invited to comment).

    A report published on October 1st.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pak-army-fires-at-Indian-posts-in-JKs-Poonch-India-retaliates-strongly/articleshow/44017907.cms?intenttarget=no&utm_source=TOI_AShow_OBWidget&utm_medium=Int_Ref&utm_campaign=TOI_AShow

    Pak army fires at Indian posts in J&K’s Poonch, India retaliates strongly
    IANS | Oct 1, 2014, 09.24 PM IST

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/pakistan-violates-ceasefire-for-third-successive-day/article6469165.ece?topicpage=true&topicId=1281

    October 3, 2014 19:22 IST

    Pakistan violates ceasefire for third successive day

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pakistan-deliberately-targeted-civilian-areas-BSF-says/articleshow/44534875.cms
    Pakistan deliberately targeted civilian areas, BSF says

    My reading of the current flare-up is that Muslim Pakistan is “testing” the new Indian PM, Mr Modi, in order to see what he will let them (the Pakistani Muslims) get away with. I do hope that Mr Modi and the Indian army *do not* let them get away with *anything*.

    • Beagle says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      Excellent. Now I know the rest of the story.

  7. Jay Boo says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 6:55 am

    Is Islam a religion
    or merely an EXCUSE?

    Atheists love to call Islam a religion in order to use it as a symbol against all religion.
    Leftists love to call Islam a religion in order to flaunt their display of sycophant reverence.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 10:43 am

      Is Islam a religion
      or merely an EXCUSE?

      It’s a *reason*. The ostensible reason is to correct the horrible mistakes made by the Jews and then the Christians. They got wrong what god wanted, and this must be corrected. Then other mistaken populations got earmarked, the Hindus biggest among them. Mistaken, all of them.

      Islam rasion d’etre is to correct the mistake, to fix the religion and thereby to fix humanity. It’s a minor side point that the fix involves mass murder, theft, sex slavery, and even worse. It’s a coincidence that the porno heaven Jannat is used to motivate the Moslems. The point is to fix the mistake, to fix the mistakens.

      • Jay Boo says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 5:10 pm

        Without enemies to hate Islam deflates

        ” other mistaken populations ” are an absolute necessity for Muhammad’s Ponzi scheme.

  8. Jay Boo says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 7:25 am

    A ‘decent’ Muslim(a) is one
    who bows his or her head in shame at the mere mention of Muhammad’s name.

    A ‘decent’ Muslim(a) leaves Islam.

    • Salah says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 11:58 am

      A decent human being would never submit to Islam.
      A decent person would never embrace Islam.
      Unfortunately, we (human beings) are not that decent. We (human beings) did bow to Islam. We did embrace Islam out fear. This has been going on for more than 14 centuries.
      This is the reason why there are more than 1 billion Muslim on this planet: FEAR.

      • the renegade says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 2:13 pm

        Agreed.

        Evil rises when the good people keep silent and don’t fight back.

        Unfortunately it is true for every aspect of life. If you don’t confront a bully for fear of being beaten up when you do, he will beat you up on a regular basis and take your money and life as well.

      • Jay Boo says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 5:05 pm

        Agreed some Muslims embrace Islam out fear.
        But let’s not overstate fear as the main reason Muslims don’t abandon Islam. Vanity and politics are other reasons we must assume as well.

        The there are also the practical calculations.
        When many Muslims move to the West they need networks to find employment and social services so socioeconomic realities may also come into play as well.

  9. Tradewinds says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 8:59 am

    You gotta love the religion of peace! Always bringing such peace to the world! The peace just never ends with Islam!

  10. Transmaster says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 11:07 am

    I will say it again. the first atomic war will be fought between Pakistan and India.

  11. abad says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Dear India:

    Be more like Myanmar and eliminate Muslims from your soil.

  12. Gerald says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:58 pm

    @ Kepha, Instead of calling Pakistan “Pathologicalstan” why not call it Muslim occupied Hindustan or even Muslim Occupied Indus Valley. After all if the Fakeinstinians can called Judea and Samaria occupied West Bank why can’t the Hindus call a spade a spade.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 9:17 am

      Good idea.

      Muslim-occupied Indus Valley.

      And Bangladesh = Muslim-occupied Lower Ganges/ lower Brahmaputra.

  13. logdon says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 1:15 am

    Maybe Pakistan is about to teach India how to keep fit despite its busy schedule?

    After all isn’t that what CAIR tell’s us jihad is all about?

  14. Mirren10 says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    ”Is Islam a religion
    or merely an EXCUSE?”

    Of course it is a religion; that is what makes it ten times more dangerous than a merely *political* ideology.

    This is why it gets a pass; very few people can get their heads around the idea that humanity has come up with a truly **evil and malevolent religion.**

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