The Pakistani Taliban says to the Islamic State: “All Muslims in the world have great expectations of you … We are with you, we will provide you with Mujahideen (fighters) and with every possible support.” The misunderstanding of Islam is epidemic and global. Will Obama send John Kerry to talk to the Pakistani Taliban and explain to them how the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam?
“Pakistani Taliban declare allegiance to Islamic State and global jihad,” by Saud Mehsud and Maria Golovnina, Reuters, October 4, 2014 (thanks to Block Ness):
DERA ISMAIL KHAN/ISLAMABAD, Oct 4 (Reuters) – The Pakistani Taliban declared allegiance to Islamic State on Saturday and ordered militants across the region to help the Middle Eastern jihadist group in its campaign to set up a global Islamic caliphate.
Islamic State, which controls swathes of land in Syria and Iraq, has been making inroads into South Asia, which has traditionally been dominated by local Taliban insurgencies against both the Pakistan and Afghanistan governments.
The announcement comes after a September move by al Qaeda chief, Ayman al-Zawahri, to name former Taliban commander Asim Umar as the “emir” of a new South Asia branch of the network that masterminded the 2001 attacks on the United States.
Although there is little evidence of a firm alliance yet between IS and al Qaeda-linked Taliban commanders, IS activists have been spotted recently in the Pakistani city of Peshawar distributing pamphlets praising the group.
IS flags have also been seen at street rallies in Indian-administered Kashmir. The trend has been of growing concern to global powers struggling to keep up with the fast-changing nature of the international Islamist insurgency.
In a message marking the Muslim holy festival of Eid al-Adha, the Pakistani Taliban said they fully supported IS goals.
“Oh our brothers, we are proud of you in your victories. We are with you in your happiness and your sorrow,” Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid said in a statement sent to Reuters by email from an unknown location.
“In these troubled days, we call for your patience and stability, especially now that all your enemies are united against you. Please put all your rivalries behind you …
“All Muslims in the world have great expectations of you … We are with you, we will provide you with Mujahideen (fighters) and with every possible support.”
The statement, released in Urdu, Pashto and Arabic, was sent after Islamic State militants beheaded British aid worker Alan Henning in a video posted on Friday, triggering condemnation by the British and U.S. governments….
ECAW says
The worldwide tide of Muslim approval for IS is growing at such a pace that eventually the Big Lie, that it has nothing to to with Islam, will become unsustainable. Hopefully it will die of ridicule but what happens when the majority realise they have been lied to?
Boston Tea Party says
It’s so hard to say. I really think we’re in uncharted waters, historically speaking. This isn’t analogous to WWII, because although many in the West underestimated the threat of Hitler and the Nazis, it wasn’t a case that the entire media and mainstream political establishment were completely devoted to DEFENDING the Nazis, as is the case now in regards to Islam.
roger says
That’s right.
I think all Muslims will unite, first against the state of Israel because the Quran say’s clearly that the last day wont come until the Muslims fight the Jews.
I think the whole world is dividing itself into two belief systems, those that will support the Muslim narrative, as many do , and will probably convert eventually, and those who stand against the tide.
lion says
suadis are to blame
Don McKellar says
The disasters of war that George the Idiot left office with on his head are already outblundered by Obama! I never guessed it would be this bad. It’s hard to imagine what a complete disaster the world will be in by the time Obama slithers out of office.
From his infamous Cairo Speech which will forever go down in infamy as the spark for the Arab Spring and its rapid evolution into the Islamic Winter thanks to his policies and actions (and inactions).
George the Idiot left messes in Iraq and Afghanistan (the only justified military action).
Obama has, under his watch, created or contributed to the disasters which are Lybia, Iraq, Syria, the Moslem Brotherhood takeover of Egypt (luckily corrected, no thanks whatsoever to Obama), the ongoing jihad disasters all over North Africa! And Afghanistan is going to implode the moment they get a chance and the US steps away from that fly hole.
What a legacy!
Wellington says
I would argue that military action was also justified in Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a megalomaniac who was slaugtering his own people, regularly violating the truce terms of the 1991 war (e.g., firing virtually daily on American and British jets in the no-fly zones) and was, to put it mildly, prevaricating about WMDs, which the CIA, Mossad, British Intelligence and many other intelligence services were convinced SH was still hiding. No American President could afford to leave such a person in charge of Iraq, especially after 9/11. He had to be taken out (and his sons). Here Bush was correct.
Where Bush failed was in believing that democracy could be instituted in Iraq. This was due in large part to the Bush Administration’s own ignorance of Islam. Rather, Bush should have installed an authoritarian type along the Mubarak line after getting rid of SH and who was pro-American or at least neutral where America and its allies were concerned. Islamic nations are simply not capable of real democracy. The true idiots are those who still think such nations are.
Covadonga says
Agreed.
Plus, there have been reports from credible journalists that convoys of trucks did leave Iraq to cross Syria for the notorious Bekaa Valley of Lebanon, where WMDs could be hidden, in the days spent gathering the Coalition of the Willing, assembling the troops for the offensive, etc..
Why would Saddam Hussein do such a thing? Why would he send the warplanes of his air force to his mortal enemy, Iran, for safekeeping in the days leading up to hostilities?
>”Where Bush failed was in believing that democracy could be instituted in Iraq. This was due in large part to the Bush Administration’s own ignorance of Islam.”
I believe the Bush Administration’s “ignorance of Islam” is entirely the result of “learned stupidity”. The Bush family is far too close, personally and financially, to the royal family of Soddy Barbaria and other leading Mohammedans for rational thinking on their part concerning this issue.
The Talmud says something to the effect that the receiving of bribes must be avoided, because bribery clouds the eyes of the just, and corrupts the unjust totally. Bush’s case may not be of bribery, per se, but the closeness to such Dark Age nightmare creatures as the rulers of Soddy is completely unseemly in an American.
A lot of the practical desire for “instituting democracy in Iraq” revolved around piping vast quantities of American taxpayers’ dollars straight into the even vaster depths of the pockets of Bush family friends, business associates, and/or college fraternity buddies.
rev g says
Besides the movement of WMD’s to Syria, some chemical weapons were seized by our forces, though many were in poor condition. We also were aware of their past use in regard to the Kurds by Iraq.
The press at the time was not buying into that admin’s rhetoric, and claimed “those were not the WMD’s we expected”, so they didn’t count.
If we were to retro-actively apply the modern definition of WMD to the situation in Iraq when Bush went back into Iraq (fully supported by the UN and Congress), it would be a fact that thousands of WMD’s were there. Remember that in today’s parlance, an exploding pressure cooker is a WMD. All IED’s would have to be considered WMD’s.
Salah says
“Obama has, under his watch, created or contributed to the disasters which are Lybia, Iraq, Syria, the Moslem Brotherhood takeover of Egypt (luckily corrected, no thanks whatsoever to Obama)”
Luckily corrected, despite of Obama, by 33 million Egyptians, most of them Muslims!!!
Muslims are waking up much faster than the stupid leftists. The death of Islam will be at the hands of, believe it or not, MUSLIMS.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html
sinantara says
Salah, I am with you. Indonesia is the case, where Indonesians consistently vote for secular democary against political Islam. Wahabbism and Salafism are of course making inroads in the country supported by petro dollars (the Saudies too will learn that revolutions eat their children) but common sense still prevails and Muslims are also homo sapiens. This species of primate is constantly falling into holes–but is has stopped at the brink of a nuclear holocaust and started to dismantle a WWIII in the making. Islam is based upon the firm belief that the quran is literally Gods word, but reality is always social reality, Islam can be reformed because people can change. And although individuals are willing to die for a belief, a paradigm change is possible for masses. The madness will run its course but the pendulum will swing back. The 30year war in Europe ended with the peace of Westphalia, after fanatics had exterminated each other and the survivors decided that enough was enough. So freedom of religion and separation of church and state became constituted. In the case of ISIS too, Muslim intellectuals will have and will to rethink quranic literalism. They’re already doing it but don’t dare yet to speak out loud (Robert Spencer will become more effective if he converts to Islam, declares himself challiph of the Western Caliphate, and orders Salafis to be beheaded as heretics). In Indonesia in spite of a number of ugly accidents, we have our freethinkers even among the Nathdatul Ulama. So let ISIS rage and lets hope that after saying a hundred times ISIS has nothing to do with Islam, the apologists start to believe that themselves… They will have to. What we face is not so much ideology as population dynamics, a surplus of unemployed young man with an identity crisis and a west unable to come up with a counterforce because it has given up on itself. Is the west to blame for fundamentalist Islam? Yes, because they have become weak and nature hates a vacuum. They have stopped breeding and stopped being proud of themselves. So in the end, not NATO bombs but an Islamic paradgim shift will have to do the job.
DiMu says
Indonesia is also a weak and corrupt nation and don’t forget they had the Bali bombings in 2002. They still genitally mutilate women as normal practice.
Bush was naive about being able to make Iraq democratic, the reason being that Saddam Hussein never allowed the institutions necessary for democracy to grow – a stable bureaucracy, rule of law, freedom of the press, universal literacy etc.
Don’t let’s forget that Osama bin Laden’s ultimate goal was to bring down the corrupt dictatorships of the ME and replace them with the pure Islamic Caliphate. In that goal he partly succeeded by enticing in US military power. Now the whole ME is up in flames and will continue to burn.
Iraq was already a mess. The USA just removed the lid from the pot and out it all vomited. Every Muslim nation is the same! That’s why the problem is Islam itself.
Fortunately for us, but not for the poor people born unwittingly into that area, the Islamic states are always squabbling among themselves, incapable of uniting for very long under one banner.
The Taliban is a joke. They are like the Somali pirates. If you are captured by them you lose your life, but they will never be able to wield more than weak regional power. Pakistan is a mess and seems incapable of uniting and Afghanistan will continue to belong to the pre-historic era.
USA policy is succeeding so far in that it has prevented any one single Islamic nation of uniting all of them. And now we depend less and less on their oil. By the way, the ME oil nations are pouring buckets of money into our anti-fracking lobby here. How predictable! Nor only that, but OPEC is losing its unity and the oil states are vying against each other. They’re toast and serves them right!
Salah says
Thank you, sinantara.
You wrote:
“Muslim intellectuals will have and will to rethink quranic literalism. They’re already doing it but don’t dare yet to speak out loud”
Many of them are indeed starting to speak out loud:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2014/08/cannibalism-in-islam-taught-at-al-azhar.html
tpellow says
– And, as we know:-
“Alliance from hell:
Al Nusra fighters in Syria want to merge with ISIS – creating united army of fanatics.”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2770833/Alliance-hell-Al-Nusra-fighters-Syria-want-merge-ISIS-creating-united-army-fanatics.html#ixzz3FCN5PdtU
tpellow says
“Global jihadists recognize Islamic State.”
(July, 2014.)
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/security/2014/07/syria-iraq-isis-islamic-caliphate-global-recognition.html
duh_swami says
“All Muslims in the world have great expectations of you
How can that be when Bill O and Sean Hannity assure us that most Mahoundians are peaceful and do not support ISIS or jihad. Clearly someone has it wrong. Must be those stupid Pakistan Taliban. What do they know about it?
Rezali Mehil says
Interesting what Bagdadi gets out of this?
He can never show his face in public, hiding in some bunker barking orders …or coming out in a burka…what sort of life is that?
Islam is much associated with charity and consideration of the other person.
Surely he has is wrong…..
More Later …
Rezali
Wellington says
Islam is spiritual fascism and an enemy of liberty. It’s charity and consideration for others really doesn’t include non-Muslims (or even Muslims who are deemed not to be proper enough Muslims). Get lost, Rezali. You convince no one here at JW except fellow deluded Mo believers. Islam is a burden to all the world just as you are a burden here at JW.
Champ says
“Islam is a burden to all the world just as you are a burden here at JW.”
…and how!!
Jen says
Rezali, can you please tell me on what basis that “Islam is much associated with charity and consideration for the other person?”
Are Muslims who say this just brainwashed or just lying? It’s bizarre.
sidney penny says
“Islam is much associated with charity and consideration of the other person.”
A lot of people do not realize that this refers to muslims.
Any “charity” and “consideration of the other person” (whatever those words means) by muslims does not apply to ……..non muslims.
What does he get out of it?
He is following the Koran, unlike the other infidels.
“We are running our caliphate, our Islamic caliphate. We follow the Koran…in the land of Allah,” he said….
It is the land of the pure ( bit like Pakistan-the meaning of Pakistan is the land of the pure and we all know what happens there).
What more do you want out of life?
What is your jihad?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/boko-haram-top-dog-we-follow-the-koran-in-the-land-of-allah
pumbar says
“He can never show his face in public, hiding in some bunker barking orders …or coming out in a burka…what sort of life is that?”
Pretty much the sort of life most MoHAMheaddan women have.
Jen says
Rezali doesn’t respond to any comments. Though last time she gave us advice about how to take our shahada when we are overrun by Muslims and forced to convert. Very amusing.
I agree that Muslims are capable of hospitality. I have met friendly Muslims and they are capable of being very considerate, especially if you are dressed as they are and they assume that you too, are Muslim. This friendliness is not genuinely extended to infidels though unless the infidel is showing an interest in their religion. They’re just trying to trap you by calling you ‘sister’ and being friendly because they hope you will convert to worship Allah/Satan. Such is their agenda.
Rezali Mehil says
I do respond to comments where appropriate.
There have been great institutions and examples of charity ..
Elahi ambulances, Imran Khan’s charity work culminating in a cancer hospital after 10 years of charity work.
Every time there is a disaster , Muslims set up charities to help the needy …just go to any Muslim tv station and see the donations coming in.
Finally we allow aid organisation to come in and help if they are seeking to do this …we help them realize their goals in life.
This did not happen for Mr Henning …I totally condemn what they did to him…please that is the IS…a special case, he was a good man helping muslims.
More Later…
Rezali
Jen says
I know but there are so many charities run by non-Muslims that try to help Muslims and all other kinds of people. Many of them were originally started by Christians. It is not equally reciprocated by Muslim charities which help to serve non-Muslims. That hospital is in Pakistan right? Which is a Muslim majority country. Islam does not teach inclusiveness for people of all kinds of faiths. Nobody would have a problem with Muslims if they weren’t so intent on dividing the world into believers and unbelievers and persecuting people who don’t agree with the values of their religion. And even Muslims who call for Muslim world domination can kiss goodbye to free speech…These are important values to Westerners.
don vito says
BBBBBBBWWWWWWWWWWWhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Stop rez, you kill me! You really kill me! No more, your killing me!
GP says
“Pakistani Taliban declare allegiance to Islamic State and global jihad”-
If half of the mosques in America and the West support the IS, then why in the world would anyone think the Pakistani Taliban would do otherwise? Such thinking defies logic and reason much like referring to IS LAM as the Religion of Peace, which I had always dismissed as hopeful rhetoric.
Burt says
It will be a source of comfort in many ways when the west realises WWIII has started. We have an enemy that needs to be eradicated with utmost force. We have the wrong people in power both sides of the Atlantic. Just like the last war ..come the hour, cometh the man.
We will use utmost force and destroy this evil just as the confident plans of the 1000 year Reich were destroyed..in less than 5 years!
We will win! With God’s help we will defeat them.
Arkanthus says
Jihad and radical Islam as a whole are becoming more and more homogenous, polarization and pressure towards the normal Muslims rise. That is actually a good development.
Ralph says
http://www.prochan.com/embed?f=ab8_1406696952
R Cole says
This taking down of ISIS is working out well!!
It’s not anything to do with Islam – why so many Muslims find themselves confused.
Anyway ~ it’s the Islamopbes’ fault. We should do more to crack down on these ‘extremists’. Freedom of expression needs limits!
We must explain more carefully to people – that Islam means peace!!
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I think the aim of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states – and even Pakistan to some extent – was that they were meant to teach this sort of thing in the mosques – and in these various schools – but that they were supposed to remain in control. As they controlled the message.
Now they are fighting alongside the west – to keep this expansionist Islamic army at bay.
That you think – they might grow in strength or advance their position – such that they are able to take Saudi Arabia / Mecca – doesn’t necessarily fill you with dread.
It’s like the genie has gotten out of the bottle.
The only positive thing about this announcement is that the Pakistan Taliban are a long way from Syria. Unless they plan to ride in on magic carpets!
sinantara says
They will not go on magic carpets. They will migrate to Birmingham first and than take the plane to Turkey
Infidel teacher says
I had to laugh, this photo resembles a group of Sand People in StarWars
pumbar says
The smell must be awful. No wonder they have to cover their noses.
Dennis Trisker says
Stop all aid to Pakistan. Let the Taliban have it. Support India in every way. They can take them!