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Philadelphia: Muslim leaders demand arrest and execution of Bangladeshi politician for insulting Muhammad and Islam

Oct 28, 2014 4:51 pm By Robert Spencer

1_Latif-SiddiquiIt all started in late September, when Bangladesh’s Posts, Telecommunications and Information Technology Minister Abdul Latif Siddique criticized the hajj and the Islamic supremacist group Tablighi Jamaat: “Latif Siddique says he is ‘dead against’ hajj, Tabligh,” New Age, September 30, 2014 (thanks to Jamal Hasan):

Posts, telecommunications and Information technology minister Abdul Latif Siddique on Sunday made derogatory remarks on hajj, a main pillar of Islam, and said he was dead against hajj and Tabligh Jamaat….

For that, Latif Siddique was fired from the Bangladeshi government. But the controversy didn’t end there. In Bangladesh, Muslims by the thousands demonstrated in the streets, demanding his death. And a group of Muslim leaders called for Latif Siddique to be hanged. They made this call in…Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

News Bangla, a Bengali daily based in Virginia, published an account of the meeting. Here is an English translation of their story (again courtesy Jamal Hasan):

In Philadelphia protest meeting, Latif Siddique’s exemplary punishment demanded

Philadelphia (12 October, 2014): Batil Firqa and materialism are enemies of iman, deen and humanity. The believers staged a strong protest rally countering the Satan Minister’s insult to the Prophet and his bad words about the fourth pillar of Islam — the Holy Hajj.

The meeting was presided over by Alhaj Sheikh Mohammad Khorshan and was held at the local Taxi Alliance Hall. The speakers at the meeting said that the former Posts and Telecommunications Minister of Bangladesh, the apostate Latif Siddique, made tasteless statements about Islam and the Great Prophet of the religion. They also said that by hurting the feelings and faith of the Muslims of Bangladesh and the whole world, Mr. Siddique committed a despicable crime. They demanded exemplary punishment of the former Bangladeshi Minister.

The speaker said, Our faith demands we have to love the Prophet above everything of the world. Otherwise, we can not remain faithful. They said, A handful of apostates made bad comments about the Prophet before, and we saw their punishment in this world. We had witnessed Golam Mohammad Kadiani’s tragic death in the toilet. They demanded the arrest of the apostate Latif Siddique and his public hanging.

The meeting was addressed among others by Imam Sheikh Abu Hateb Mohsin (Egypt), Imam Hafez Omar (African), Imam Maulana Kazi Ilyas, Imam Maulana Abdul Awal, Professor Imad Rushdi, Ahmed Mudi (Palestine), Haji Abdur Rahman Chowdhury, Mahbubur Rahman, Mahamdur Rashid (Selim), Abdur Shuqqur, Mohammad Hares Mansur, Mir Hussain, Mohammad Shahjahan Chowdhury, Shaha Farid, Mohammad Nahid, Freedom fighter Abu Taher, Mohammad Enam Chowdhury, Shah Alam, Mohammad Belal, et al.

In his presidential speech, Sheikh Khorshan thanked all the Bangladeshi, Arab and African brothers for making the meeting a success. He called for unity to get out of the clutches of atheist evil forces who had insulted the Great Prophet of Islam. The meeting was conducted by Mohammad Shahadat Hussain, who has a lilting voice. The program concluded with a prayer asking for the peace and prosperity of world’s Muslims.

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  1. Ayatrollah says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:02 pm

    This said he hurt the feelings of Muslims everywhere. Now that is a death penalty crime.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:22 pm

      Mature people who are secure in their faith recognize that “Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the LORD.”

      From a Christian point of view, this is nuts for the following reasons:
      1. Don’t kill the man before he can repent
      2. Maybe he just doesn’t understand Islam (there’s a lot of that going around)
      3. Let Allah deal with the man – why do murder over this?
      4. In English, there is an old saying, “Sticks and stones may break my bones,
      but words will never hurt me”.

      If that translation was accurate, these people have the emotional maturity of the average junior-high age kid.

      • Oliver says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 11:24 pm

        Greyhound,

        I object to the last sentence.

        MOST JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL (IN FLORID, ANYHOW, NOW CALLED MIDDLE SCHOOL) ARE MUCH MORE MATURE–EMOTIONALLY AND PSYCHOLOGICALLY.

        I feel that you should apologize for insulting the (in my day) 12-14 year olds.

        My view. I agree with the rest of the comments.

        • Oliver says

          Oct 28, 2014 at 11:25 pm

          3rd line-should read FLORIDA–“A ” did not print. Sorry

      • david says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 2:33 am

        Actually, that’s quite accurate. The junior-high level is about where people are in those cultures. Been there, seen that. It’s really crazy seeing and hearing full grown men and women speak and act like 12 year olds. You have to experience it.

      • Forthfaran says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 7:23 pm

        The Christian point of view is that he wouldn’t be killed whatever; criticising the articles of faith is not death in Christianity.Blasphemy hasn’t been punishable by death for centuries and is no longer a criminal matter in most Christian countries. It seems to me that he understands Islam well enough ,that’s the trouble. Do you mean Let God deal with him? Christians do not actually recognise Allah as God. I’m not sure whether you are arguing from a Christian perspective or not. Christians would have merely said,Oh alright ,if that’s your opinion,so what?

    • realitybites says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:31 am

      Well I am insulted as a Christian that these Muslim leaders insult the Son of God! So what should be their penalty? Get real. Why should someone have to die for this? Has there not been enough slaughter performed by Muslims?

    • Gabe says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:42 pm

      You just hurt my feelings as a Christian. Should you be put to the death? Your logic is absurd!

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    “The program concluded with a prayer asking for the peace and prosperity of world’s Muslims.”

    And to hell with the rest of the world, it should be added. By the way, I am so glad to know that Mohammad Shahadat Hussain has a lilting voice when calling for a public hanging.

    • Huck Folder says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 11:03 pm

      More CES: “peace and prosperity of world’s Muslims.” is achieved by mo inspired banditry and looting of the world’s FREE peoples. I refuse to call them non-moslem or anything similar, which might imply that islam is any kind of standard.

      “Our faith DEMANDS we have to LOVE the Prophet above everything of the world.”

      Epic fail. Love (and respect) are qualities you can demand until your face is as blue as your zebiba, you will have none. What you have is brainwashing – with filth – and mindlessness, (and fear and loathing).

      It’s a great pity your ‘prophet’ never exemplified jerking off ten times a day; that would give you less time to plot jihad against the CIVILIZED peoples of the world, who want NOTHING of you.

      And remember, your precious, do-nothing allah is THE GREATEST DECEIVER.
      She’s really going gangbusters right now, with shia vs sunni and IS vs civilization.

      GS (Goat Sodomizer) care to comment?

      • gravenimage says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 8:08 pm

        Huck Folder wrote:

        More CES: “peace and prosperity of world’s Muslims.” is achieved by mo inspired banditry and looting of the world’s FREE peoples.
        ………………………

        *Very* true, Huck—the “Prophet’ disdained productive labor, and believed that Muslims should live off Infidels—through piracy, slavery, ransom, tribute, and caravan raiding.

        Pious Muslims are no different today—they have just added street Jihad, “foreign aid”, and sponging off the dole.

  3. Beagle says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    In order to celebrate diversity and allow Muslims to have the free exercise of their religion under the First Amendment sometimes it’s necessary to allow them to conspire to murder someone for holding views with which they disagree. Is that so hard to understand?

    • TruthWFree says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      No way should this sorry excuse for a cult religion have rights as a religion under our Constitution. Islam is a cancer and must be banned from America.

      • Shemp says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 12:43 pm

        Could not agree more!

  4. Beagle says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    The only comment at the New Age article:

    “qadir khan • a month ago

    I will cut the head of latif”
    — —

    I’m sure he means that as a metaphor, or something.

  5. mortimer says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    The Hajj involves bowing down to, kissing and circumnavigating chips of meteorite (The Holy Gravel), but DON’T CALL IT AN IDOL!

    The Holy Gravel in Mecca is obviously a pagan idol representing the Goddess Venus/Allat and her consort Qos/DhuShara the God of Hunting and Warfare.

    In spite of the pagan rites of the Hajj, Muslims claim they are not pagans.

  6. Oliver says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    “The program concluded with a prayer asking for the peace ——————–

    part of the ending of the post.

    BUT IT IS MUSLIMS KILLING MUSLIMS ( NOT ENOUGH, IN MY VIEW, AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE)—SO, if they (Muslims) want peace, why the hell don’t they stop killing each other? Rhetorical, I know. I also hope that they do not-just leave the rest of us alone.

    And Bangladeshis–what the hell have they contributed to the world, in the 40+ or so years since they became a country?

    Illiteracy; intolerance; and being a rally cry for Greeks against Muslims- the last (in my view) probably the best. (The last-I ave read -elsewhere- that the Bengalis in Greece are poor; filthy; illiterate; criminals; and hated–never tried to confirm).

    • TH says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 7:29 pm

      Not long ago jihadis in Bangladesh broke into a Catholic mission compound and after having neutralized the priest, they raped the nuns. The nuns were Italian and they are dedicating their lives with great sacrifice to educate the poor in that country, be they Christian or muslim. I saw a picture of one of the nuns weeping after the ordeal. Reaping nuns and raping school girls is normal practice for Mahomedans. They are light years from a minimum of human decency. Rapng any woman is a horrific crime, but raping nuns and young girls is the worst of the worst.

      • Modog says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 1:23 am

        Reagan backed death squads in Central America that famously raped and murdered nuns. Islam still has major problems. Just pointing it out.

        • eduardo odraude says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 12:04 pm

          So your point is I guess that Islam is like America — has some wonderful and great qualities, as well as some very bad ones, and just as America eventually abandoned the death squads, so Islam will eventually abandon its stupidities. The comment shows you don’t know about Muhammad’s life, you don’t know the Qur’an, and you don’t know the Hadith. Please check this out these disturbing quotes, referenced to a university website, and the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad. If you are sincere:
          http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com

        • Western Canadian says

          Oct 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

          According to hard left loons like you…. In the real world, not so much.

  7. Greyhound Fancier says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 7:25 pm

    They are like the communists (you had to break some eggs to make an omelet) and the Nazis (had to kill the Slavs for lebensraum) and every other fascist and despotic crackpot that ever lived.

  8. Darren says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 8:18 pm

    The prophet was a pedophile, mass murdering psychopath, who plundered enslaved and butchered his way across arabia what is there to celebrate in the man? The ideology is just as bad. Behold infidels the perfect man stand in awe at his holiness and glory. A gutter rat sociopath who started a religion to manipulate people so he could gain power and wealth.

    Islam what a batsh*t crazy death cult, everywhere you turn these savages are butchering and raping people across the known world, but our government omits islam from terrorist training manuals and is more concerned about returning war vets. It’s bad enough these guys get used like pawns then discarded and thrown away for a failed foreign policy, but when they get back the government that sent them into two dumb wars under suicidal rules of engagement then is concerned about them. 80% of mosques in this country preach jihad. Our government is useless and aids jihadists. When some moron preaches death to infidels put two in his head and be done with it, it’s better to take premptive action then have these savages kill more innocent people.

    • Oliver says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:45 pm

      When Napolitano started as Homeland Insecurity- and she started that be on the look out for returning vets; anti abortion people, etc., as possible terrorists.

      one of the (if not the, or only–not sure) first arrested –was a returning/returned Navy vet– WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM.

      His attempted terrorist activity was to be for Allah and Islam.

    • Oliver says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm

      Darren, I agree with you.

      Even my other psot to this-is showing/saying Islam sucks.

  9. gravenimage says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    Philadelphia: Muslim leaders demand arrest and execution of Bangladeshi politician for insulting Muhammad and Islam
    …………………………….

    In *Philadelphia*. How many still believe that Muslims in the West are “moderates”?

    More:

    It all started in late September, when Bangladesh’s Posts, Telecommunications and Information Technology Minister Abdul Latif Siddique criticized the hajj and the Islamic supremacist group Tablighi Jamaat…
    …………………………….

    Tablighi Jamaat was founded in the 1920s, around the same time as the Muslim Brotherhood, as an offshoot of the Deobandi movement.

    Their main focus is “enjoining what is good, and forbidding what is wrong”—which in Islam means the imposition of barbaric Shari’ah law.

    Even worse, they’ve been involved with numerous Jihad terror plots—the worst being the 2005 London Tube bombings.

    So these pious Muslims in Philadelphia believe that a man should be murdered for daring to criticize violent Jihadists.

    More:

    For that, Latif Siddique was fired from the Bangladeshi government. But the controversy didn’t end there. In Bangladesh, Muslims by the thousands demonstrated in the streets, demanding his death. And a group of Muslim leaders called for Latif Siddique to be hanged. They made this call in…Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
    …………………………….

    Of course they want him murdered—that is the penalty for daring to criticize the savagery of Islam.

    I have no idea where Siddique is now—but he is clearly not safe in Bangladesh, the rest of Dar-al-Islam, or even—God help us—in the United States.

    More:

    Philadelphia (12 October, 2014): Batil Firqa and materialism are enemies of iman, deen and humanity. The believers staged a strong protest rally countering the Satan Minister’s insult to the Prophet and his bad words about the fourth pillar of Islam — the Holy Hajj.
    …………………………….

    Of course, this is not just a “protest rally”, but a call for murder.

    “Batil Firqa”, incidentally, appears to translate as “heretical sects”. From what I have read, there does not appear to be any reason to believe that Siddique belongs to any such sect—but pious Muslims seem incapable of believing that anyone might have a difference of opinion—if they are critical or even questioning of any aspect of Islam, it must be because they belong to some organized “heretical sect”.

    More:

    The meeting was presided over by Alhaj Sheikh Mohammad Khorshan and was held at the local Taxi Alliance Hall.
    …………………………….

    This is going to make me even more nervous the next time I take a cab. In my region, about 80%-90% of taxi drivers are Mohammedans. This seems to be common throughout the West at this point.

    More:

    The speakers at the meeting said that the former Posts and Telecommunications Minister of Bangladesh, the apostate Latif Siddique, made tasteless statements about Islam and the Great Prophet of the religion. They also said that by hurting the feelings and faith of the Muslims of Bangladesh and the whole world, Mr. Siddique committed a despicable crime. They demanded exemplary punishment of the former Bangladeshi Minister.
    …………………………….

    That “exemplary punishment” is, of course, murder.

    Note here that they don’t claim that Siddique is just a member of a heretical sect, but an “apostate”—because in Islam anyone who dares to criticize the creed can be considered having left it, and thus fair game to be butchered.

    One more point—the claim that if Muslims have their ‘feelings hurt’ that they have the right not just to demand an apology, but to have the “offender” slaughtered.

    Thus—as is so common—Muslims play the victim while at the same time demanding blood. *Ugh*.

    More:

    The speaker said, Our faith demands we have to love the Prophet above everything of the world. Otherwise, we can not remain faithful.
    …………………………….

    Of course, Siddique is not preventing any Muslim from loving the vicious “Prophet” Mohammed—but what they are demanding goes way beyond this. They want to control what others say—and believe they have the right to murder anyone who thinks differently.

    More:

    He called for unity to get out of the clutches of atheist evil forces who had insulted the Great Prophet of Islam. The meeting was conducted by Mohammad Shahadat Hussain, who has a lilting voice. The program concluded with a prayer asking for the peace and prosperity of world’s Muslims.
    …………………………….

    More projection—if anyone is allowed to criticize Islam, then Muslims are “in the clutches” of “atheist evil forces”.

    What they really want, of course, is to get atheists—and other Infidels and any critical or lax Muslims—into *their* clutches.

    And that they would invoke “peace” while demanding a peaceful man’s murder shows to what an extent Muslims use words differently than we do.

    And note their description of this thug having a “lilting voice”—very like pious Muslims showering assassins with rose petals. *Ugh*.

  10. gp says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 9:42 pm

    A warning to all infidels:

    We will fight the infidel to the death!

    -Meanwhile American Laws will protect us
    -Democrats and leftists will support us
    -NGO’s will legitimize us
    -CAIR will incubate us
    -The ACLU will empower us
    -Western Universities will educate us
    -Mosques will shelter us
    -OPEC will finance us
    -Hollywood will love us
    -And the UN will cover our asses

    http://www.siotw.org/news_engl…

  11. Salah says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 1:54 am

    “Abdul Latif Siddique criticized the hajj”

    How did he criticize it? let me guess…

    The Hajj (or circumambulating the Kaaba) was practiced by the tribe of Quraysh (Muhammad’s tribe) as well as other pagan tribes long before Islam. They used to circumambulate the Kaaba naked, whistling and clapping their hands.
    Muhammad allowed this pratice to continue for at least nine years AFTER Islam. Then, he himself was physically unable to attend this yearly event. So…

    ‘On the year nine, when Abu Bakr was the leader of the pilgrims on his (Muhammad’s) behalf, the prophet (pbuh) ordered him to make this announcement: “No naked person is allowed to circumambulate the Kaaba.”‘
    (Sahih Muslim, commented by al-Nawawi)

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/03/muhammad-and-nudity-mahomet-et-la.html

  12. Dhimmi says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 2:19 am

    A day is coming when these terrorists will learn it is not prudent to open their pie holes… It would be wise for them to return to the rock they crawled out from under.

  13. fair_dinkum says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 2:47 am

    there is no dignity. no humour and no free thought.

    yet it persists. it is unsustainable. its a parasite.

    whether in the U S or in a mud hut in the west asian desert, they carry on..oh the hurt..the wailing and gnashing of teeth…

    sissies.

  14. shabeer_hassan says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 6:03 am

    Prophet pray for his society even they hurt him:

    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 683
    Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 56 :: Hadith 683
    Narrated ‘Abdullah:

    As if I saw the Prophet talking about one of the prophets whose nation had beaten him and caused him to bleed, while he was cleaning the blood off his face and saying, “O Allah! Forgive my nation, for they have no knowledge.”

    Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 38 :: Hadith 512

    Bukhari :: Book 2 :: Volume 13 :: Hadith 55
    Muslim :: Book 35 : Hadith 6540 [mocking person]
    Muslim :: Book 35 : Hadith 6540
    Abu Huraira reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) used to seek refuge (in Allah) from the evil of destiny and from falling into the hand of calamity and from the mockery of (triumphant) enemies and from the hardship of misery. Abu Sufyan reported: I am in doubt that I have made an addition of one word in this supplication.

    Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 392
    Bukhari :: Book 5 :: Volume 59 :: Hadith 675
    Leave the mockers /denied the religion
    4: 140. And it has already been revealed to you in the Book (this Qur’ân) that when you hear the Verses of Allâh being denied and mocked at, then sit not with them, until they engage in a talk other than that; (but if you stayed with them) certainly in that case you would be like them. Surely, Allâh will collect the hypocrites and disbelievers all together in Hell,
    6: 68. And when you (Muhammad SAW) see those who engage in a false conversation about Our Verses (of the Qur’ân) by mocking at them, stay away from them till they turn to another topic. And if Shaitân (Satan) causes you to forget, then after the remembrance sit not you in the company of those people who are the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong¬doers, etc.).
    2: 212. Beautified is the life of this world for those who disbelieve, and they mock at those who believe. But those who obey Allâh’s Orders and keep away from what He has forbidden, will be above them on the Day of Resurrection. And Allâh gives (of His Bounty, Blessings, Favors’, Honors, etc. on the Day of Resurrection) to whom He wills without limit.
    6: 5. Indeed, they rejected the truth (the Qur’ân and Muhammad SAW) when it came to them, but there will come to them the news of that (the torment) which they used to mock at.
    6: 10. And indeed (many) Messengers were mocked before you, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing that they used to mock at.
    7: 199. Show forgiveness, enjoin what is good, and turn away from the foolish (i.e. don’t punish them).
    9: 65. If you ask them (about this), they declare: “We were only talking idly and joking.” Say: “Was it at Allah (ÚÒ æ Ìá), and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger (SAW) that you were mocking?”

    Human can’t do anything against to Allah /can’t escape from his punishment:

    42: 31. And you will not cause failure [to Allha] upon the earth.
    64: 1. Whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth glorifies Allâh. His is the dominion, and to Him belong all the praises and thanks, and He is Able to do all things.
    82: 16. And they (Al-Fujjâr) will not be absent there from (i.e. will not go out from the Hell).
    89: 23. And Hell will be brought near that Day. On that Day will man remember, but how will that remembrance (then) avail him?
    24. He will say: “Alas! Would that I had sent forth (good deeds) for (this) my life!”
    25. So on that Day, none will punish as He will punish.
    26. And none will bind as He will bind.
    105: 1. Have you (O Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) not seen how your Lord dealt with the Owners of the Elephant? [The elephant army which came from Yemen under the command of Abrahah Al-Ashram intending to destroy the Ka’bah at Makkah].
    2. Did He not make their plot go astray?
    3. And sent against them birds, in flocks,
    4. Striking them with stones of Sijjîl.
    5. And made them like an empty field of stalks (of which the corn has been eaten up by cattle).

    • Dennis says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 1:09 pm

      What about the cute little puppies, How could any real G-d not like them? Islam isn’t a religion for me. Is that an insult? I hope so.

    • Western Canadian says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      It’s hard to imagine just how sick and evil someone would have to be, to embrace the utter garbage this poster has fouled this thread with…. You are truly sick, as well as completely dishonest.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 9:10 pm

      More from the spamming Muslim apologist shabeer hassan:

      Prophet pray for his society even they hurt him
      ………………………………

      This was only in the early days of Islam, before the “Prophet” had recruited his army of thugs. After the Hijira, he regularly began having his critics murdered. He would eventually proceed to slaughtering entire tribes who dared to resist his seizing power.

      Muhammed infamously had a poet butchered while she slept with her infant on her breast for daring to have criticized his brutality.

      The murder of critics of the “Prophet” is *exactly* the basis on which these Muslims are calling for the murder of Abdul Siddique.

      More:

      Leave the mockers
      ………………………………

      The fact is that Islam never “leaves the mockers” now, and hasn’t done so for centuries—Muslims have called for the death or, tried to kill, or outright murdered *anyone* who dares to criticize or even question Islam—Salman Rushdie, the Danish MoToon artists, Molly Norris, Lars Vilks—it’s a long and ugly list.

      Notice that shabeer hassan doesn’t condemn those calling for the murder of the critics of Islam—he just pretends that Islam doesn’t actually call for this. He’s a pretty ham-fisted Taqiyya artist…

  15. jo says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 8:54 am

    Who gives a damn…If it is not a true faith it will die out..just like Christianity which prays to the Jewish god Yahweh, a lion headed snake. Whose own mother Sophia called Samaael (Satan).

    • Western Canadian says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:16 pm

      Someone is off his meds again…….

    • Champ says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      …”a lion headed snake”? ..lol, that’s a new one! 😀

      • Western Canadian says

        Oct 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm

        Well, if we have been created in His, image…. I guess we must all be lion headed snakes. And I never even noticed!!!

        • tellmenolies says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 10:43 am

          Bottom line is…..it was MEN who wrote the Holy Books, therefore, it was Men who conjured up the Stories about Gods, Devils or whatever else. These MEN wanted to CONTROL everyone, therefore, they had to make everyone fearful of what was written in these Holy books so that they would (1) believe what was written, (2)obey the words of these Holy books and (3) would not question what was written in these Holy Books.

    • Jeff Brown says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:32 pm

      “He that hath the son(JESUS) hath life. He that hath not the son hath not life but the wrath of God abideth on him.” Six million Muslims annually are being converted to Christ!! I hope you’ll think really hard about it. Acts 10:43

  16. shabeer_hassan says

    Oct 29, 2014 at 12:30 pm

    ISLAM PROMOTE TWO CONDITION OF MARRIAGE
    1)GIRL MUST REACHED HER PUBERTY LEVEL
    2)HER PERMISSION REQUIRED FOR MARRIAGE
    EVIDENCE
    Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 8 :: Hadith 465
    Narrated ‘Aisha:

    (the wife of the Prophet) I had seen my parents following Islam since I attained the age of puberty. Not a day passed but the Prophet visited us, both in the mornings and evenings.

    Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 73 :: Hadith 151
    Narrated ‘Aisha:

    I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

    Dawud :: Book 11 : Hadith 2091
    Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:

    A virgin came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and mentioned that her father had married her against her will, so the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) allowed her to exercise her choice.
    Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
    Narrated AbuHurayrah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The child of adultery is worst of the three.
    [017:034] Come not nigh to the orphan’s property except to improve it, until he attains the age of full strength; and fulfil (every) engagement, for (every) engagement will be enquired into (on the Day of Reckoning).

    Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 101

    Narrated ‘Aisha:

    Allah’s Apostle said, “It is essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the marriage). I said, “A virgin feels shy.” The Prophet; said, “Her silence means her consent.” Some people said, “If a man falls in love with an orphan slave girl or a virgin and she refuses (him) and then he makes a trick by bringing two false witnesses to testify that he has married her, and then she attains the age of puberty and agrees to marry him and the judge accepts the false witness and the husband knows that the witnesses were false ones, he may consummate his marriage.”

    Tirmidhi, Hadith 1109
    Sayyidah Aisha(r) said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’

    WHO R PROMOTE PEDOPHILE?
    The following was taken from http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/guido_deimel/judaism.html regarding Numbers 31:17-18 in the Bible:

    “They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man……..Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (Numbers 31:7,17-18)”

    1- The Bible’s Prophets, and even Roman Emperors married girls as young as 8! [1] http://www.roman-emperors.org/aggiefran.htm.
    2- Mary got pregnant between the ages of 11 and 14 [“Marrying off one’s daughter as soon after she reaches adulthood as possible, even to one’s Slave. (From the Talmud, Pesachim 113a)”

    As we discussed, in biblical times adulthood could refer to the age of Puberty or even younger age.

    Regarding the Marriage of Mary to Joseph, Catholic Encyclopaedia ( http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08504a.htm), says:

    “When forty years of age, Joseph married a woman called Melcha or Escha by some, Salome by others; they lived forty-nine years together and had six children, two daughters and four sons, the youngest of whom was James (the Less, “the Lord’s brother”). A year after his wife’s death, as the priests announced through Judea that they wished to find in the tribe of Juda a respectable man to espouse Mary, then twelve to fourteen years of age, Joseph, who was at the time ninety years old, went up to Jerusalem among the candidates; a miracle manifested the choice God had made of Joseph, and two years later the Annunciation took place.”.

    3- The minimum age for marriage in the US-State of Delaware in year 1880 was 7 [http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,971.msg3154.html#msg3154].

    4- According to the Jewish Talmud, as we’ve seen above, Prophet Moses and his followers had sex with girls as young as 3 years old [4]. Yes, THREE years old. You read it right.
    The age of sexual consent is still quite low in many places. In Japan, people can legally have sex at age 13, and in Spain they can legally have sex at age 12. (This data comes from the Age of Consent chart, which you can see at: http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm)

    The Prophet’s contemporaries (both enemies and friends) clearly accepted the Prophet’s marriage to `Aisha without any problem. We see the evidence for this by the lack of criticism against the marriage until modern times. However, a change in culture caused the change in our times today.

    A 40-year-old man having sex with a 14-year-old woman may be a “pedophile” in the USA today, but not in China today (where the age of consent is 14), nor in the USA last century. Biology is a much better standard by which to determine these things in my view, not the arbitrariness of human culture.

    ***** In the USA last century, the age of consent was 10 years old. California was the first state to change the age of consent to 14, which it did in 1889. After California, other US states joined in and raised the age of consent too. (Source: http://www.ageofconsent.com/comments/numberone.htm)

    ***** In the US-State of Delaware in 1880, the minimum age for marriage was 7 years old.
    JEW
    Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

    Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”

    Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
    BUT

    Talmud Sanhedrin 74b “Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.”
    HINDU
    Manu 9:94. A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve who pleases him, or a man of twenty-four a girl eight years of age; if (the performance of) his duties would (otherwise) be impeded, (he must marry) sooner.
    Vishnu Purana III:10 If he marry,he must select a maiden who is of a third his age,one who has not too much hair,but is not without any,one who is not very black or yellow complexioned and who is not from birth a cripple or deformed…”

    Mahabharata XLIV (p.18)A person of thirty years of age should wed a girl of ten years of age called a Nagnika. Or, a person of one and twenty years of age should wed a girl of seven years of age.
    WHO R THE REAL PEDOPHILE?
    Child sex tourism :

    Thailand : 40% of prostitutes are child in Thailand
    Northern Italy: 40% of prostitution affects minors.
    Cambodia: 1/3 of prostitutes are child
    India : 1.2 million child prostitutes
    Brazil: 1.2 million child prostitutes
    United States: Between 244,000 to 325,000 child prostitutes.
    China: It is estimated that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 child prostitutes.
    Mexico:16,000 children in Mexico were involved in prostitution
    Sri Lanka, there are nearly 40,000 child prostitutes
    In the Philippines, there are 60,000 to 100,000 prostituted children
    In Nepal approximately 30% of them were found to be children.
    in Vietnam, and 20,000 of these are children.
    in Ukraine, research has shown that between 30 and 40 percent of prostitutes are between 11 and 18 years
    in Russia approximately 20 to 25 percent of Moscow’s sex workers are minors.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_of_children
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sexual_abuse

    MR.ROBERT SPENCER & GANGS IF U HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON PLZ GO TO ADVICE THEM AS MUCH AS U CAN POSSIBLE,DON’T WASTE U’R TIME HERE FOR SPREADING LIES,BEAT THEM,EACH BEAT ,GIVE ONE ADVICE TO THEM…
    Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
    Narrated AbuHurayrah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The child of adultery is worst of the three.
    BEAT
    Dawud :: Book 29 : Hadith 3952
    Narrated AbuHurayrah:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The child of adultery is worst of the three.
    BEAT
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The child of adultery is worst of the three.
    BEAT
    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The child of adultery is worst of the three.

    • katarzyna says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 12:48 pm

      dude your prophet did not exist. Muhammad Sven Kalisch said that.

    • Western Canadian says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:19 pm

      It’s hard to believe that the first time the poster of this pathetic drivel, didn’t vomit and turn away, the first time he/she read it.

      No one here is stupid enough to listen to your drivel. Go away, and enjoy your hatred of human beings everywhere.

    • Champ says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 2:30 pm

      shabeer_hassan wrote:

      MR.ROBERT SPENCER & GANGS IF U HAVE AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT OF COMMON PLZ GO TO ADVICE THEM AS MUCH AS U CAN POSSIBLE,DON’T WASTE U’R TIME HERE FOR SPREADING LIES,BEAT THEM,EACH BEAT ,GIVE ONE ADVICE TO THEM…

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      “shabeer_hassan” is a lost cause serving an evil cause: islam.

      Robert Spencer and “Gang”s are here serving the truth about islam and company, because we prefer the truth over pathetic pretzel logic and lies.

    • Western Canadian says

      Oct 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm

      Re: the ‘quotes’ from the Talmud…
      Thinking about it, I haven’t seen anyone abuse, distort or lie about the Jewish books like this in years. Entire websites exist, giving bits and pieces of the actual Jewish books, distorting them, and even making up passages and books that don’t even exist. And this self proclaimed expert, is one of the lowest of them. If he/she had any integrity, they would have not swallowed the contrived jew-hating repeated here, but would have gone to the source, and found the context of these partial quotes….. but no integrity, so no effort to examine and learn. Typical Islamic bigot. Anyone interested, seek out the sites that actually deal with the Jewish books, giving history, context etc. This bigot never will.

    • gravenimage says

      Oct 31, 2014 at 1:00 am

      More off-topic spam from nauseating Muslim apologist shabeer hassan:

      ISLAM PROMOTE TWO CONDITION OF MARRIAGE
      1)GIRL MUST REACHED HER PUBERTY LEVEL

      Tirmidhi, Hadith 1109
      Sayyidah Aisha(r) said: ‘When a girl is nine years old, she is a woman (meaning, she has attained puberty).’
      …………………………………….

      A 9-year-old child has not developed secondary sexual characteristics, let alone begun to menstruate. By what possible point can such a little child be held to have “attained puberty”?

      Like most pious Mohammedans, shabeer hassan pretends that a *9-year-old child*—a *2nd grade school girl*—has “reached her puberty level”.

      More:

      2)HER PERMISSION REQUIRED FOR MARRIAGE
      …………………………………….

      “Her permission”—and what does this mean in Islam? shabeer hassan himself cites the Hadith:

      Allah’s Apostle said, “It is essential to have the consent of a virgin (for the marriage). I said, “A virgin feels shy.” The Prophet; said, “Her silence means her consent.”
      …………………………………….

      “Her silence”—in other words, if the victim is too terrified to protest her looming forced marriage, *that* is taken as “consent”.

      And girls in Islam have good reason to scared—one of the most common causes of “Honor Killings” are girls who dare resist forced marriages.

      More:

      Some people said, “If a man falls in love with an orphan slave girl or a virgin and she refuses (him) and then he makes a trick by bringing two false witnesses to testify that he has married her, and then she attains the age of puberty and agrees to marry him and the judge accepts the false witness and the husband knows that the witnesses were false ones, he may consummate his marriage.”
      …………………………………….

      After saying that the girl’s consent is needed in Islam, shabeer hassan then posts *this*—proving that Muslim men can lie and are *still* permitted to rape the victim. *Ugh*.

      As for his cited statistics about pedophilia in Dar-al-Harb, the only reason that there is so much information is that child exploitation and rape are *crimes* in the civilized world—unlike in Islam, where they are perfectly Halal.

  17. dlbrand says

    Oct 30, 2014 at 1:09 am

    Again: wherever Islam is practiced, Islam will be practiced.

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