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Salon: Qur’an “backs up jihad, suicide attacks…beheadings,” sex slavery

Oct 26, 2014 10:09 pm By Robert Spencer

qurangunSunspots? Salon has suddenly discovered that the Qur’an sanctions jihad, suicide attacks, beheadings, and sex slavery, and that Islamic law also allows for female genital mutilation, wife-beating, stoning, etc. — after having excoriated me for years as an “Islamophobe” and a “bigot” for saying just such things. To compound the heresy, they’re publishing this in the context of a takedown of media darling Reza Aslan, whose every pronouncement, no matter how ridiculous, is ordinarily greeted with breathless adulation from media types.

To be sure, the author of this piece, Jeffrey Tayler, makes it more palatable to his Leftist audience by claiming that Jewish and Christian Scriptures contain material that is just as hateful and violent as that which is in the Qur’an — and he doesn’t explain, of course, why we don’t see Jewish or Christian terrorists committing acts of violence and justifying them by reference to their Scriptures. But despite this thoughtless and baseless moral equivalence, casually stated as if it were axiomatic (and it is, in Salon’s circles), this article is still remarkable for what it admits: aspects of Islam that Salon has never, as far as I can recall, acknowledged before.

Has Bill Maher made it safe for Leftists to admit that there is a problem with how jihadis and supremacists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and oppression?

“Reza Aslan’s atheism problem: ‘Fundamentalist’ atheists aren’t the issue, apologists for religions are,” by Jeffrey Tayler, Salon, October 25, 2014:

Bill Maher’s recent monologue on “Real Time” about the failure of liberals to speak out about the routine atrocities and violations of human rights carried out in the name of religion in the Muslim world has unleashed a torrent of commentary, much of it from progressives advocating more, not less, tolerance of Islam.

New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, who sided with Ben Affleck against Maher in a follow-up segment a few days later, calls ISIS rebels, in an op-ed, “barbarians” who “give all Islam a bad name,” and asks us to take into account the religion’s diversity, lest we slip into “Islamophobic bigotry.” Fareed Zakaria, in his Washington Post column, cautions us to recall that Islam, Christianity and Judaism once peacefully coexisted, but acknowledges that Islam suffers from a “cancer” – extremism that incites acts of terrorism. This he views, though, as a problem of “Islam today.” (He neglects to point out that in the Muslim-dominated countries where this peaceful coexistence occurred, Christians and Jews suffered humiliating second-rate dhimmi status, unequal legally or socially to Muslims.) Writing on Al Jazeera English, Lana Asfour lauds Affleck for calling out Maher’s “racism” and espies, in the comedian’s treatment of Islam, an “overriding agenda” aimed at justifying the “past, present, and future mistakes” of U.S. foreign policy.

One pundit in particular, though, has busied himself opining on Maher and nonbelievers in general — Reza Aslan, Islam’s most prominent apologist of late. Delivered via multiple media outlets, his remarks, brimming with condescension, tinged with arrogance and laden with implicit insults to thinking people, deserve special scrutiny for one main reason: among well-intentioned liberals who don’t know much about religion, his words carry weight.
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In a New York Times editorial, Aslan accused Maher and other nonbelievers of “exhibiti[ing] an inability to understand religion outside of its absolutist connotations.” Such folk, in his telling, unjustly “scour holy texts for bits of savagery and point to extreme examples of religious bigotry, of which there are too many, to generalize about the causes of oppression throughout the world.” They fail to grasp, in his view, that “religion is often far more a matter of identity than it is a matter of beliefs and practices.”

Yet Aslan accuses the benighted critics of religion of a far more grievous misapprehension: the assumption that words mean what they actually mean. Here I’ll quote him at length.

“It is a fallacy to believe that people of faith derive their values primarily from their Scriptures. The opposite is true. People of faith insert their values into their scriptures, reading them through the lens of their own cultural, ethnic, nationalistic and even political perspectives. . . . After all, scripture is meaningless without interpretation. The abiding nature of scripture rests not so much in its truth claims as it does in its malleability, its ability to be molded and shaped into whatever form a worshiper requires. . . If you are a violent misogynist, you will find plenty in your scriptures to justify your beliefs. If you are a peaceful, democratic feminist, you will also find justification in the scriptures for your point of view.”

Now we have to stop and ponder what we are being sold here. Aslan is essentially taking a postmodernist, Derrida-esque scalpel to “scripture” and eviscerating it of objective content. This might pass muster in the college classroom these days, but what of all those ISIS warriors unschooled in French semiotic analysis who take their holy book’s admonition to do violence literally? As they rampage and behead their way through Syria and Iraq, ISIS fighters know they have the Koran on their side – a book they believe to be inerrant and immutable, the final Word of God, and not at all “malleable.” Their holy book backs up jihad, suicide attacks (“martyrdom”), beheadings, even taking captive women as sex slaves. This is not surprising; after all, the prophet Muhammad was a warrior who spread Islam by the sword in a dark, turbulent time in history. (Christianity’s propagation had, in contrast, much to do with the Roman emperor Constantine’s fourth-century conversion and subsequent decriminalization of the faith.)

Moreover, the razor-happy butchers of little girls’ clitorises and labia majora, the righteous wife-beaters, the stoners of adulterers, the shariah clerics denying women’s petitions for divorce from abusive husbands and awarding sons twice the inheritance allowed for daughters, all act with sanction from Islamic holy writ. It matters not a whit to the bloodied and battered victims of such savagery which lines from the Hadith or what verses from the Koran ordain the violence and injustice perpetrated against them, but one thing they do know: texts and belief in them have real-life consequences. And we should never forget that ISIS henchmen and executioners explicitly cite their faith in Islam as their motive. Tell that to Derrida – or Aslan….

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  1. jihad3tracker says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    HELLO AGAIN REZA — THIS JUST IS NOT YOUR LUCKY DAY, IS IT ?

    The “Full Speed Ahead — F**k Timetables” freelance frat boys royally screwed up what was supposed to be stealthy little cat feet quietly proceeding.

    Even major privilege guilt White Folks (my own stupid tribe) finally start to see what Muhammad’s pathology is all about . . .

    • terry says

      Oct 26, 2014 at 11:01 pm

      Everything done by ISIS in Iraq & Syria, Boko Haram in Nigeria, Al Shabab in Somalia, Hamas in Gaza, Ansar Beit Al Maqdis in Egypt, Ansar Al Sharia in Lybia , Al Qaeda in Yemen, Al Qaeda in Maghreb, Al Qaeda in Subsaharan Africa, Taliban in Afghanistan, Taliban in Pakistan, Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines , Muslim brothehood in Egypt and Sudan, Sharia law in Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan, Sharia law in Iran, etc, etc, etc. is based solidly and irrefutably in the Coran, Hadith and Sunna!

      All Muslims in the west who run, after every Jihad attack on the west, to simply make a comment on social media:”Not in my name” should instead go and scour all the pages of Coran, Hadith and Sunna to look for the verses, scriptures and clear teachings which they can use in turn to refute and educate all the followers and sympathizers of the above mentioned groups all over the world, and especially here in the west , if they are really that interested in their reputation and that of their religion!

      It has been now over 13 years since the events of 9/11 and the start of “Not in my name”comment, and the number of Jihad terrorist attacks and attempts of attacks, all over the world, increased exponentially!

    • Saleem Smith says

      Oct 26, 2014 at 11:14 pm

      Reza Aslan is attempting to deceive people about the true nature and doctrines of his horrid creed. Wouldn’t want to be him. The lowest of the low he most certainly is.

      • Inka Hutz says

        Oct 27, 2014 at 8:15 pm

        Always appreciate your comments Saleem.

  2. JohnT says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    The table is turning slowly but surely.

    • vivienne Havalant says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 12:01 pm

      At last the worm is really being turned over

  3. Saleem Smith says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 10:46 pm

    “Their holy book (the Qur’an) backs up beheadings, taking captive women as sex slaves, wife-beating, and the Sharia denys a women’s petitions for divorce from abusive husbands and awarding sons twice the inheritance allowed for daughters…”

    The taking and raping of sex slaves during jihad warfare is unfortunately normative Islam.

    These evil acts are fully sanctioned by the supposedly “perfect Qur’an.”

    We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Mohammedanism is a terrible fraud.

    THE QURANIC SANCTION OF SLAVERY

    The institution of slavery in Islam was formalized in the following Quranic verse, in which Allah distinguishes free human beings or masters, who exercise justice and righteousness, from the dumb, useless and burdensome ones, the slaves:

    Quran 16:76 Allah sets forth (another) Parable of two men: one of them dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master; whichever way he directs him, he brings no good: is such a man equal with one who commands Justice, and is on a Straight Way?

    Allah warns the believers against taking the slaves as equal partner in status and in sharing their wealth, lest they have to fear them as anyone else:

    Quran 30:28…do ye have partners among those whom your right hands possess (i.e., slaves, captives) to share as equals in the wealth We have bestowed on you? Do ye fear them as ye fear each other?

    Allah recognizes some human beings, namely the masters, as more blessed by Himself than the less favored slaves as part of His divine plan. He warns Muslims against sharing His gifts to them equally with their slaves. Those who would take slaves as equal, warns Allah, would deny Him:

    Quran 16:71 Allah has bestowed His gifts of sustenance more freely on some of you than on others: those more favoured are not going to throw back their gifts to those whom their right hands possess, so as to be equal in that respect. Will they then deny the favours of Allah?

    Allah does not only sanction the institution of slavery, He also gave divine blessing to masters (Muslim men only can own slaves) to have sex with the female slaves:

    Quran 70:29–30 And those who guard their private parts, Except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess—for these surely are not to be blamed ]

    Quran 23:5–6 And who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable

    Therefore, if there are women amongst the captives or slaves, Muslims are divinely sanctioned to have sex with them as they do with their wives. This verdict of Allah founded the institution of sex-slavery or slave-concubinage in Islam, which was widespread in the pre-colonial Muslim world and continued well into the mid-twentieth century. As far as legal marriage is concerned, there is a limitation of four wives for a man at one time [Quran 4:3], but no such limitation on the number of sex-slaves.

    Allah also gave a divine sanction to Muslims for acquiring female slaves for sexual engagement by waging wars against the infidels:

    Quran 33:50 O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war…

    Muslims can engage in sex with the captured slave women even if they are married, but not with the married free Muslim women:

    Quran 4:24 Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess…

    There are other verses in the Quran that talks approvingly of slaves and capturing them in wars. Thus, according to the divine commands of the Islamic God as enshrined in the holy Quran, Muslims are allowed to keep slaves. They can amass slaves by waging wars, have sex with the female slaves, and of course, use them as they wish. For Muslims, having sex with female slaves is as legal as having sex with their married wives. Slavery appears to be one of the most desired divine privileges in Islam, since Allah took the pain of reminding Muslims about this divine right time and again in so many verses.

    http://www.faithfreedom.org/

    Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

    “One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…

    The statement continues,

    Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”

    • jihad3tracker says

      Oct 26, 2014 at 10:56 pm

      Hello Saleem —

      I am continuously astonished by the expertise + time + energy which contributors like you post here.

      They countervail the avalanche of taqiyya that CAIR and its fellow seditionists shovel into mainstream media.

      • Saleem Smith says

        Oct 26, 2014 at 11:36 pm

        Yes the lies and deceptions of CAIR and the other proponents of Islam are truly disturbing. Hope you’re enjoying the Halloween week!

  4. Jay Boo says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 11:18 pm

    The photo makes it clear which room of the house he just visited prior to the photo.

    Islam is not ‘number 1’ but ‘number 2’
    He is holding the Koran in his left hand minus a few pages too!

  5. R Cole says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 11:51 pm

    That is what one might call a flogging!!

    (He neglects to point out that in the Muslim-dominated countries where this peaceful coexistence occurred, Christians and Jews suffered humiliating second-rate dhimmi status, unequal legally or socially to Muslims.)

    It matters not a whit to the bloodied and battered victims of such savagery which lines from the Hadith or what verses from the Koran ordain the violence and injustice perpetrated against them, but one thing they do know: texts and belief in them have real-life consequences. And we should never forget that ISIS henchmen and executioners explicitly cite their faith in Islam as their motive.

    Wow!!

    This is huge – for Salon!

    • Marc Roche says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 4:44 pm

      Hello from the “other side”. I’ve been a Salon reader for years….their smear campaign against Dawkins, Harris et al has appalled me. I’m so glad that the editors have published Jeffery Tayler’s piece. I was starting to think they were turning into dhimmis.

  6. gravenimage says

    Oct 26, 2014 at 11:55 pm

    Sunspots? Salon has suddenly discovered that the Qur’an sanctions jihad, suicide attacks, beheadings, and sex slavery, and that Islamic law also allows for female genital mutilation, wife-beating, stoning, etc. — after having excoriated me for years as an “Islamophobe” and a “bigot” for saying just such things…
    ………………………………

    *Better late than never*.

    Of course, it is disgusting that brave Cassandras like Robert Spencer have had to suffer smears and calumny—but this has happened before.

    In the 1930s those who were clear-eyed about the rising threat of Fascism like Winston Churchill were sneered at and even called—what projection!—”warmongers”.

    When the tide turned and most of those in the free West finally got a clue, those courageous warners received neither apology or even acknowledgment in most cases.

    But their prescience and courage *worked*, nonetheless—and both their not-so-quick-on-the-uptake contemporaries and ourselves owe them an incalculable debt of gratitude.

    And so it will be with early Anti-Jihadists.

    In the end, the only important thing is that the West finally wake up.

    So—we must swallow our annoyance and welcome those at Salon, and hope that they in turn awaken others.

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 12:43 am

      NPR and Huff Post might have to give better explanations if they decide to criticize both Bill Meher and Salon for forgetting to nod in approval at Islam like trained seals.

  7. Salah says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 12:21 am

    The most stupid human beings on this planet (aka the leftists) are finally waking up to the dangers of Islam.
    Now we need to work together convincing the W.H. to ban Islam’s most active terrorist organization: the Muslim Brotherhood (aka ISIS, al Qaeda, Boko Haram etc.)

    http://bachmann.house.gov/daily-news-egypt-michele-bachmann-writes-muslim-brotherhood-history-terror

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 12:57 am

      When it concerns Islam, much of the Democratic Party has consistently collaborated with the enemy.
      Republican Michele Bachmann spoke the truth.
      She made the liberal news media squirm and then have a fit of indignation.

    • UnEasyOne says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 6:43 am

      I’m a leftist. Salon was too feminist (Of the woman’s studies major, man hating variety/PC to interest me much, but I read some articles, made some comments and am absolutely bowled over by their apparent turnaround.

      We’ll see if an apology ensues, or more truth. It would be great to see some of the wild-eyed feminists there finally take notice that in islam, marriage is simply a form of slavery – better disguised in the western world. Most women seem to accept their lot – especially after a couple pf children were born. If she leaves, she has to leave the children. But some come to like it and genuinely love their husbands. OTOH, some successfully run away; some are caught and either die or are tortured into submission. No good statistics seem to exist – for obvious reasons.

      But we, both on the right and left have to remember to put other issues aside and Unite as Americans against people who intend to destroy or subjugate us all. Random viciousness about how one side or the other is stupid is counterproductive and pointless.

      We have an implacable enemy that wants to line us up next to each other next to ditches and chop off our heads – because of THEIR beliefs.

      Maybe if we put our heads together while they are still attached to our bodies, we can work out a strategy to free ourselves of their oil and roll them back into the primitive “fire and sword” civilization they sprang from.

      When we are actually fighting instead of this slow-motion surrender, we can drive them out; crush them like bugs.

      It’s easy to kill handcuffed captives, do defeat an enemy who is trying to make peace,

      • Lara_Palin says

        Oct 27, 2014 at 11:24 am

        Surprised a Leftist is concerned about this. Is it because they’re physically challenging the Evil Right Wing Baggers more skillfully than your comrades? lol

        I bet that if the muzzies and their misogynist laws are finally kicked out of the US, you’ll replace them with those Misandrogynist laws you folks are currently passing.

  8. Buraq says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 1:13 am

    Well, it’s been a bad week for Aslan, as Karen Armstrong might say. However, it’s been a hellish 1,400 years for non-Muslims in the world!

    Aslan’s a clown, a five star, wire-wigged, baggy trousered, red nosed clown!

  9. duh_swami says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 4:22 am

    After a while it becomes impossible to ignore that big pimple on the end of your nose….It’s common for ‘acne’ people to condemn Islam, but then defend it in the very next breath with a logical fallacy of, ‘others (Christians) do it too’. Which if you look closely, no they don’t. It’s hard to take someone who has a big pimple on the end of their nose seriously. Maybe Solon looked in the mirror and said, ‘Mirror Mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all’? To which the Mirror replied…’Not you toots, the fairest is some guy named Spencer, you might remember him, he tried to tell you, but you wouldn’t listen…Are you ready to listen now?

  10. Darius Jeddburgh says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 4:26 am

    Will wonders never cease.

  11. Steffen Larsen says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 4:37 am

    Jeffrey Taylor also has seen that Aslan is “falsifying” history.

    Naturally, not everyone in the Salon comments section are happy with the article, and the very top comment accuses Mr. Taylor of “hate”. It’s business as usual.

  12. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 4:48 am

    Good for Jeffrey Tayler. Better still if he can soon understand that those quaint old stories in the Old Testament do not form part of US law. The Koran, in complete contrast, – and all of it – forms part of Islamic law, with the death penalty for denying any verse. Oh, and the killing can be carried out by anyone without penalty “since it is killing someone who deserves to die” (Reliance of the Traveller, Manual of Islamic Law o8.4: the Manual is available as a free download).

    • quotha raven says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 3:15 am

      There ya go, Michael C! Your post shows clearly the diff between a religion and theocracy. Thank you. I’ve been trying in my occasional posts here to emphasize that understanding the diff is critical to understanding what this whole show is about. Truly appreciating the difference between a religion and a theocracy is 100% necessary for anyone to begin to understand what’s going on. Thank you for your clear thinking!

  13. Always On Watch says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 6:54 am

    Whoa!

    Salon may be indicating that a paradigm shift is coming.

  14. logdon says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:55 am

    ‘Islam, Christianity and Judaism once peacefully coexisted’.

    Just as long as the Jews and Christians behaved like good dhimmis and paid the jizya, that is.

    Maybe we should follow this recipe for ‘peaceful coexistence’ and start charging the Muslims in our midst for the privileges they enjoy in the west?

    Imagine?

    • Always On Watch says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 8:38 am

      I wouldn’t expect Salon to get the whole picture about Islam. Yet.

      If the IS continues to be successful and if more jihad attacks occur in Canada and the United States, at least some people will go looking at Islam for themselves.

      A lot of those on the Left read Salon. May they are become “Islamophobic”!

      • Marc Roche says

        Oct 28, 2014 at 4:56 pm

        I’ve read Salon for nearly 20 years….it was better when it stared out. I’ve been an Islamophobe ever since I read ibn Warraq’s “Leaving Islam”. All my fellow liberals should read it.

  15. jaladhi says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 7:58 am

    Finally, Salon found the religion!! Let’s see how long they practice it!!!

  16. Veritas says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 8:36 am

    I noticed the sicko in the picture is holding an M16. Thank you Mr. Obama for arming these savages.

    • gp says

      Oct 28, 2014 at 12:17 pm

      ISIS is armed with the best weapon systems that the Iraqis could hand them.

      ISIS is The Obama legacy.

  17. James says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:00 am

    David Wood explains it pretty clearly.

  18. mortimer says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:18 am

    Suggestion to Ben Affleck :

    1) Go to Northern Iraq
    2) Speak to ISIS
    3) Explain to them exactly how they misunderstand Islam
    4) Don’t ask anyone to pay for his ransom.

    • terry says

      Oct 27, 2014 at 11:17 pm

      Mortimer,

      I love it!

      It made laugh a lot.

  19. mortimer says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Question for students of Reza Aslan:

    “According to Sharia law, what is the PUNISHMENT for Muslims who ‘invent’ their own ideas about Islam, rather than following the canonical commentaries of the Islamic ‘consensus’?”

    In other words, in Islamic countries, such as IRAN, what are the LEGAL PUNISHMENTS for DISSENTING from the opinions of the ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS ESTABISHMENT?

    FURTHERMORE…

    How many IRANIANS are imprisoned or EXECUTED each year for disagreeing with the opinions of the AYATOLLAHS?

  20. Don McKellar says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 11:48 am

    Have they moved April Fools Day to late October?

    Will Salon now be firebombed by jihadis in retaliation?

    Will Salon now post an open letter of apology to Robert Spencer for demonizing him for simply telling the truth all this time?

    I’m afraid the first two are more likely than the last question.

    Actually the middle question would have a good chance of happening if Salon’s offices were in France.

  21. Jan Brown says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 2:06 pm

    Maybe some Christians insert their slant into Scripture, but those who study the bible come to learn the original meaning and take much joy in that, even when it may admonish us about the deceitfulness of sin. I find it ironic, though, that politicians over the last 50-100 years have inserted their own interpretations over the original meaning of the Constitution. For example, “commerce” and “person” and “income tax” to a name a few, to such an extent that the Constitution is all but meaningless today as the foundation of our government. So we have a lawless government run by man, even trying to tell us jihad isn’t terrorism. Absurd.

  22. William Morgenstein says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    There are undoubtedly many ‘peaceful’ Muslims but to call Islam a peaceful religions is not only completely wrong and ridiculous but at best displays a cowardice that does no one any good. From a Jewish/hebrew teaching center in Cairo that is preaching vicious anti-Semitic hate (typical in every Arab & Muslim country) to amputations, beheading, stonings, female circumcisions, female suppression there is no way you can call it a peaceful religion, neither in literature or in current practice. From the start of schooling young children are taught murderous hate and those that deny that are liars and schemers.

  23. Uncle Vladdi says

    Oct 27, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Hey, Reza: Covering up crimes is a crime in itself. Just sayin'(!)

    😉

  24. dumbledoresarmy says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 12:49 am

    As someone says at a key point in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings (the book not the movie) – “Wind is changing!”

    Just look at what Taylor wrote: ” He [Fareed Zakaria] neglects to point out that in the Muslim-dominated countries where this peaceful coexistence occurred, Christians and Jews suffered humiliating second-rate dhimmi status, unequal legally or socially to Muslims.”

    In order to write *that*, Jeffrey Taylor *has* to have done some real research. Who knows, perhaps he’s read Bat Yeor? Even if he’s read a whitewashed account of dhimmitude somewhere, it’s clear his basic commonsense has told him that living as a dhimmi is *not* what he himself would like. Perhaps at the back of his brain a little voice has whispered: “This [the dhimma system] is an ideologically-based apartheid system, inherently cruel and unjust”.

  25. LoBo_MeaL says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 5:02 am

    Maybe they watched The Glazov Gang.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C1lKjm7ysk&list=UUqCK5RFjwgmx2z4sOjqd-kQ

  26. gp says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    It matters not a whit to the bloodied and battered victims of such savagery which lines from the Hadith or what verses from the Koran ordain the violence and injustice perpetrated against them, but one thing they do know: texts and belief in them have real-life consequences. And we should never forget that ISIS henchmen and executioners explicitly cite their faith in Islam as their motive.-

    Matters of fact are terrible stubborn things-unknown

  27. Walter Sieruk says

    Oct 28, 2014 at 1:30 pm

    This Muslim man said the the Quran backs up suicide attacks. This may, very much , be true,For that “holy book” those teach such violence and killing, Sura 9:11. Still this book of Islam is very much overruled by the real Word of God. For Bible even curses men of violence. As in Psalm 140:11 which reads “may disaster hunt down men of violence.” [N.I.V.]Likewise, kidnapping for slaves the Bible condemns in Exodus 21:16. Of course kidnapping for any reason whatsoever is very wrong and will always be wrong. That Islamic has sanctioned such wickedness as beheading, sex slavery, suicide/homicide bombing which are all awful and heinous and there are many who are so deceived by Islam actually think of a suicide/homicide attack as a “martyrdom operation.” As for the three Islamic evils just mentioned,beheading, sex slavery, suicide/homicide attacks. It’s very sad and tragic , that because of Islam, many Muslims are of such a sick, warped and deluded mindset actually think of these three wicked things a something that is “good.” To of such a sick, warped and deluded way of thinking as this the Bible does explain in Isaiah 5:20. “Woe unto those who call evil good and good evil…”

  28. Keith Lehman says

    Dec 25, 2014 at 7:01 am

    I spent 4.5 enlightening years in the Republic of Turkey, that few mention the fact they are the sole Muslim majority nation that has not fallen (yet) to the rapture of Islamic violent doctrine because their republic founder, Ataturk, prescribed that Turkey be a secular state and that women not be treated as chattel. Indeed, one of the first things he mandated was that women be forbidden to wear veils (although some rural women do so), forbade polygamy, and caliphate government. He modeled the new government from Europe complete with prime minister and parliament. Amazingly, when he asked the scholars to devise the Turkish written language into a European and Latin based language in one year, rather than the traditional Arabic; they enthusiastically change the system in only six months. The Republic of Turkey helped the Kurds when no one else would. Christian churches were left alone, those few that had been established there; and persecuted Jews that fled there became equal citizens; most of whom who spoke Spanish because they were fleeing from the wrath of fascist Spain in the 1930s. The Turks were neutral in World War II, but joined the United States and other nations in forming NATO, fighting with honor and gallantry with Americans in the Korean War. In recent history, Turkey aided the US effort to stop Saddam Hussein and his henchmen, providing a US-Turkish air base; as well as aiding Kurds fleeing wrath of Hussein until the Kurds formed socialist and non-secular organizations that demanded that the Turks provide them a piece of southeastern Turkey as their new state of Kurdistan – biting the hand that aided them. Those Turks were originally welcomed as immigrants intended to assimilate into Turkish culture and civic community; but instead, developed a “multiculture” pocket of community. From first-hand account, I can tell you that the Kurds problem of unity and sovereighty is derived primarily because they have retained their tribal society where the warlord system continues to exist; which causes continual internal strife depriving them of any common sense unity. Sadly, in the this last decade, the Turkish Republic seems to be succombing to its Muslim neighboring nations’ ideology to the medieval attitude of government under religious control, the Caliphate; as the current prime minister/president has revealed. This has led corruption within their political system; which the US is experiencing in recent history.
    The importance throughout history of Turkey, specifically Istanbul, formerly the eastern seat of Christianity known as Constantinople; as a gateway between the East and West has been important in terms of trade and intermingled culture. The Ottoman Empire provided a bad name for Turkey; but was corrected when Ataturk and company established the Republic of Turkey and close ties with Europe – who still refuses to allow Turkey to join the European Union. Unfortunately, anamosity between Greece and Turkey remains (despite both being members of NATO) that was established during the Ottoman Empire period.
    It is unfortunate that other Muslim nations have not used Turkey as a role model, like the US Constitution a good guideline for other nations’ government – both being corrupted as people allow a socialist system replace that of a constitutional republic.

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