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UK: London mayor says security services monitoring “thousands” of jihad terror suspects

Oct 11, 2014 10:27 am By Robert Spencer

boris-johnson_3016150b“There are probably in the low thousands of people that we are monitoring in London.” What? In London alone? To say nothing of the rest of Absurd Britannia? Will Johnson or David Cameron or some expert Moderate Muslim like Maajid Nawaz kindly explain how this Misunderstanding of Islam grew to these epidemic proportions? Everyone (outside of greasy Islamophobes, that is) knows that jihad terror has nothing (nothing!) to do with genuine article or with Islam itself, which in its proper understanding is as warm and cuddly as a teddy bear named Muhammad — no scratch that, Muslims rioted over one of those a few years back.

Nonetheless, the question remains. Will no one on the Supine Isle ask Cameron to look up from his bangers and mash and explain? Will no one belly up next to Boris Johnson at the pub and ask him over a pint of ale exactly how this Islam That Has Nothing To Do With Islam got so very far out of hand? Will no one ring the BBC and ask the respected journos why exactly it’s bigoted to say that there should not be thousands of possible jihad terrorists in London? Will no one in the British intelligentsia pause to ponder the fact that thousands of child rapists preyed on British girls while authorities stood by and did nothing, cowering in fear that if they did do anything, Nick Lowles or Fiyaz Mughal would call them racists?

Death Knell of Britain Update: “Security services monitoring ‘thousands’ of terrorism suspects in London, says Boris Johnson,” by Gordon Rayner, Telegraph, October 10, 2014 (thanks to John):

The security services are monitoring “thousands” of terrorist suspects in London, Boris Johnson has disclosed, suggesting the threat from Islamist extremists may be far greater than has previously been admitted.

Until now, it was thought that the main danger came from around 500 jihadis who have travelled to Syria and Iraq from the UK to join Isil or al-Qaeda fighters, around half of whom have returned to Britain.

But the Mayor of London suggested the threat from home-grown terrorist plots was far more widespread than the relatively small numbers of extremists who have gone abroad to fight.

Speaking to The Telegraph, he said: “In London we’re very very vigilant and very very concerned. Every day – as you saw recently, we had to raise the threat level – every day the security services are involved in thousands of operations.

“There are probably in the low thousands of people that we are monitoring in London.”

Speaking about the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil) he said: “London has a particular concern, because probably of the five or six hundred that are out there, we think a third, maybe more – maybe half – come from the London area.

“If and when they come back, we have a real job to deal with them.”…

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  1. RichardL says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:40 am

    I recommend everybody reads the whole article. Boris is promoting not islam – as he usually does – but his own book on Winston Churchill. The gall of that man is unbelievable.

    One might not find Churchill’s judgement on Mohammedanism in Boris’ book:

    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
    No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

  2. zulu says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:43 am

    London: School of Jihadis: Why have six former pupils of the ‘Eton of State Schools’ been linked to terror?
    Holland Park School is in one of London’s richest catchment areas
    More than 90 per cent of pupils achieve at least 5 grade A-Cs at GCSE
    Three of the six former pupils have been killed fighting for jihadis in Syria
    One of them was convicted of trying to smuggle cash to fund terrorism
    A fifth is still thought to be in Syria fighting for one of the jihadist groups
    The sixth was tricked into carrying cash for terrorists in her knickers

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2788800/school-jihadis-six-former-pupils-eton-state-schools-linked-terror.html#ixzz3Fqc4vg4N
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    • Kenny says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:50 pm

      But, but surely it’s all because they’re poor and disadvantaged. Didn’t you realise that? I mean, really.

  3. John Alexander says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:48 am

    A big part of the problem is the welfare state. A quarter of Muslim men are on disability benefit, sitting at home dreaming of a point to their lives.

    The other problem is Islam. There’s a another good post which explains why our leaders and media won’t tell the truth ─ it would mean civil war.

    It’s called “Why The Obvious Lie?” at:

    http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-lie.html

    • Salah says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 11:27 am

      “There’s a another good post which explains why our leaders and media won’t tell the truth ─ it would mean civil war.”

      Good article. Obvious conclusion. Problem is: they can’t keep lying forever. Which leads us to another obvious conclusion: civil war is coming.
      So, before we get to that, why not try a peaceful solution? i.e. a massive protest against our PC leaders.
      It worked in Egypt (a Muslim country). Why can’t we do the same?

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-end-of-muslim-brotherhood.html

      • Kenny says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 12:53 pm

        Politicians can’t lie forever? lol. Indeed they can’t, they just retire and a new breed of liars takes their place!

    • Boston Tea Party says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:04 pm

      “There’s a another good post which explains why our leaders and media won’t tell the truth ─ it would mean civil war.”

      Yes. As someone else on this site posted a couple months ago, the multiculti leaders of Europe are like somebody who’s juggling flaming torches while standing in a pool of gasoline—they can’t keep it up for much longer, but they can’t stop, either.

    • Horace Yo says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:50 pm

      Yes, but it would be a short civil war you would win and end 99% of the Muslim threat. Not doing it will bring on the civil war you will lose-sooner than you might think.

  4. Charli Main says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:50 am

    “In London we’re very very vigilant and very very concerned. Every day – as you saw recently, we had to raise the threat level – every day the security services are involved in thousands of operations”.
    So, while the security services are monitoring the adherents of the” religion of peace” in London, their brothers in Manchester, Birmingham, Coventry and good ól Rotherham are free to strut about the streets preaching hate and death to infidels and grooming and raping children.

    • Lesley says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 11:41 am

      I wonder what it will take for the West to realize that we can’t afford the luxury of sustaining the delusion that we can accommodate Islam in our societies? What is the cost of surveilling any portion of our Muslim citizens, providing extra security to protect non-Muslims against ‘workplace violence’ as we love to call it in the US? Sure, there are fine people in all demographics, but when will we realize that the costs outweigh the benefits of including followers of this violent ideology in our countries? Repatriating Muslims out of Western countries would force the Muslim world to reform its ideology. Muslims who swear allegiance to a reformed form of Islam (sans beheadings, taqiyya, child marriage, human trafficking, referring to non-Muslims as ‘infidels’, harming homosexuals, and other human rights atrocities) could rejoin our Western societies. This would open the door for good people like Malala Yousafzi, Maajid Nawaz, Irshad Manji, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali to come to the world table, and keep out the dangers we increasingly face in the West. A clear delineation between those Muslims who follow abrogation and those who do not, with a new name applied, would be a good place to start…

      • Jen says

        Oct 11, 2014 at 10:41 pm

        I like that Malala girl. She has the right idea. But if she really wants to continue helping fellow girls with their education as well as other rights, it would be more helpful for her to do this outside the framework of Islam. If she keeps calling herself a Muslim, the nutcase Muslims can attack her and complain that what she’s doing is “un-Islamic.” Though, remaining a Muslim could also make her a good role model for other Muslim girls.
        The trouble is though, that even the most educated Muslims have been shown to carry out terrorist attacks. Education doesn’t matter at all for the most devout nutcases of this religion. Their religion is the problem that should be attacked in the first.

        • Jen says

          Oct 11, 2014 at 10:43 pm

          *tackled first

    • Dazzle says

      Oct 12, 2014 at 10:43 am

      Way back in 2005 the Metropolitan Police and the security services had already identified more than 3000 people in London who were regarded as being a threat to public safety – this is the same number that Johnson talks about today – this number has not increased in all those years?

      At that time the Home Office employed a number of Muslims in positions of authority, there must surely be more of them now. There were many “moderate and peace loving” Moslems who were consulted about what should be done and asked how to go about engaging with “Muslim communities”.

      We see the results of all that nonsense now.

      A look back at newspapers from the mid 2000’s has been really informative. It seems that there is a marked difference in the tone of articles and editorials published then and those of today.

      Today in the mainstream there is very little unequivocal condemnation of the atrocities committed by followers of Islam. This lack of clarity and a seeming inability to recognise the difference between right and wrong must surely be caused by fear, a deep and profound fear.

      Fear of being accused of racism, fear of putting self, family and career at risk, fear of being labelled ignorant, fear of expressing an opinion that others dare not support.

      It is astonishing to see so many apparently well educated people supporting the arrant nonsense that “everything is equal” and that “all cultures are valid”.

      Civil war? We are already at the last chance saloon. A dumbed down generation for which thank you Mr Blair, demographic change, and the EU’s febrile support of Turkey loom large.

  5. Neil JJ says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Since the 90s we in the UK have been brainwashed via workplace equality training, school & college indoctrination, the lefty media and lefty writers controlling the content of our TV. We’ve seen what happens to those of us that don’t value diversity and don’t feel “richer for diversity”. Our careers stall if we don’t agree with multiculturalism and accept that all white, Christian, heterosexual men are the cause of all evil. We have learned to make excuses for criminality if the criminal’s skin colour is not white and our local councils have prioritized services in favour of certain skin colours.

    However, with the murders of Lee Rigby and Alan Henning there seems to have been an awakening. People are beginning to recognize how their lives have been changed beyond recognition because of multiculturalism. Some people are speaking out and suffering because of it.

    My country staggers along, drunk on diversity, mostly unaware of the damage that has been caused. My country is dying. A diversity of parasites are attacking the UK’s immune system. The white blood cells are either blind or outnumbered. A vaccine in the form of UKIP is available but the infected cells reject it and try to fool the brain that they’re the enemy.

    It may well take the beheading of more soldiers, or police officers, or old ladies in their gardens, before anything of merit will be done to combat this parasitical religion.

    • Kenny says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm

      Sir, you are absolutely right in everything you have said! To all the American readers and contributors to this blog; Neil JJ has simply articulated what people really think in Britain, but are mercilessly hounded for saying it in public in a manner which you don’t have in America. Please remember that when you make fun of us because our elected (for now), representatives are such weaklings. There is an enormous amount of disgust held for mainstream politicians by the British public, hence the rise of UKIP who I also have great hopes for.

    • Boston Tea Party says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Yep, as an American, I’m not looking down on Britain with some sense of superiority. While Britain may be a bit further down the road than the U.S., pretty much ALL western countries have signed on to Multiculturalism and full-blown cultural relativism. Almost all the same ideological and political currents that are in Europe and the UK are present in the U.S. as well. We’re all in the same boat, to one degree or another.

  6. tpellow says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Supplementary.

    “British cops warned they are targets of Lee Rigby-style killings.

    Police around Britain were warned yesterday they could be targets for a Lee Rigby-style murder attack in the street.”

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/521236/Police-warned-targets-Lee-Rigby-style-killings

    • ECAW says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 11:07 am

      So now the police should avoid wearing their uniforms too?

  7. ECAW says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 11:27 am

    “There are probably in the low thousands of people that we are monitoring in London.”

    This is what Johnson said a year ago of the whole country, so at a rough guess the problem has doubled in that time. The security forces can’t possibly monitor them all, and it only takes one man with one knife….

    When I was young the whole village would pile up wood on the rec [recreation field] with the purpose of setting light to it on November 5th. Allowing the Muslim population to proliferate with the inevitable proportion of fanatics reminds me of that. Eventually a spark will set it off. The thing is, will the indigenous population, realising how cruelly they have been deceived and betrayed by their leaders, be so polite about it as they have been after 7/7, Woolwich, Rotherham etc?

  8. Don McKellar says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 11:32 am

    Maybe this horrific reality, brought on by decades of retards like Blair and Cameron at the wheel, with their lies and pro-Islam agenda in substitute for truth and honesty about the cult, is a reason (they believe) for banning Robert Spencer from the UK? After all, if the situation is this bad (and it’s no doubt far worse) just his presence there as a man speaking out honestly about Islam might drive those thousands of jihadi lunatics into a mass-murdering frenzy in the streets. It appears that that scenario isn’t far-fetched at all! But it is absolutlely no justification for shutting out the truth in the UK. That only makes things worse when it comes to Islam. Far, far worse.

    The situration has reached a tipping point far sooner than Blair, Cameron, May and the rest thought it would. The Moslem Problem that the UK has brought upon itself won’t go away on its own and will continue to grow and fester and many innocent britains will die thanks to these lying politicians and their propoganda.

    • Charli Main says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 12:44 pm

      Just a question, Don, ´cos I don´t know the answer.
      Assume, one of the increasing numbers of British citizens being arrested and charged with hate crimes against Muslims and blasphemy against the ” prophet” of Islam.
      If said citizen, charged with these ” crimes”, demanded that Robert Spencer and Pamela Gellar be called to testify, as expert witnesses on their behalf, could Teresa May and Co. still refuse them entry into the UK.???
      Surely, said citizen has the right to present the best defence they can, to refute the charges against them???

  9. ECAW says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 12:10 pm

    After the 7/7 bombings in 2005 Johnson said:

    “To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia — fear of Islam — seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture – to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques – it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions in its heartlessness towards unbelievers….That means disposing of the first taboo, and accepting that the problem is Islam. Islam is the problem”

    In 2008, while campaigning in the London mayoral election, he said he now believed, after having researched the Koran more in depth, that it is “a religion of peace”.

    The man will say anything to anyone for a vote.

    • Kenny says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 5:28 pm

      “The truth becomes a lie, and then becomes the truth again”. George Orwell 1984. How prophetic!

  10. Jay Boo says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 12:29 pm

    Off topic but related
    Another (US) football fan seriously injured in an attack by fans drunk on stadium supplied alcoholic beverage.
    The stadium owners and management claim no accountability and hide behind their lawyers.

    Muslims drunk on Islam supplied at their local mosque join up in jihad stupor and the imams hide behind politicians and panderers.

  11. Jay Boo says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    “. Will no one on the Supine Isle ask Cameron to look up from his bangers and mash and explain?”

    I doubt that UK politicians still eat bangers and mash.
    It might offend Muslims.

  12. islamisdeath says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 12:43 pm

    Just give them some sandwiches. That will solve the whole thing. I know cause Ben Affleck told us .

  13. Nicu says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm

    And German politicians keep saying ” islam belongs to Germany ” .

    How can a whole continent surrender to ” people ” like that ???

    • Jay Boo says

      Oct 11, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      “And German politicians keep saying ” islam belongs to Germany ” .
      ————–

      It could be worse.
      At least they are not yet saying that Germany (belongs to Islam).

  14. Cora Nott says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    You just better keep monitoring sadistic Moslem Jihad suspects. Their next target is possibly little Prince George.

  15. Michael Copeland says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    That problematical “warped and deluded mindset” that Boris Johnson blamed for the Woolwich murder of Lee Rigby is now attracting “probably in the low thousands of people” so that “every day we had to raise the threat level”. This is the wilful denial brought about by vote-concern. See “Time to Brush the Wool Away, Boris” http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6350-time-to-brush-the-wool-away-boris?

  16. Jen says

    Oct 11, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    Haha! I’d actually forgotten about the teddy bear named Muhammad.

    “British teacher who was convicted of insulting Islam because her class of 7-year-olds named a teddy bear Muhammad.”

    So in other words, only human beings should be named after Muhammad. It is not possible for a teddy bear to carry out rapes, mass murder and theft- therefore it is unacceptable to name a teddy bear this. Only those who are capable of following in Muhammad’s footsteps are worthy of this name.

  17. cheekturner says

    Oct 12, 2014 at 11:32 am

    I saw a brief report on Rt or Aljazeera about Boris’s comments and lo and behold an Imam (aka twat) was given the airtime to say that dear ole Boris was wrong to mention IS threats to London as this could (and no doubt will) cause problems between Muslimes and their non-muslime communities. It was “irresponsible”.
    Why? Why should muslimes get upset at this and why should non-muslimes get upset? After all IS has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims?
    I sense someone has a hole in their foot now. TWAT IMAM!

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