As long as the hopelessly compromised and abjectly surrendering Brits are recognizing terror states that do not exist, why don’t they recognize Nazi Germany and Democratic Kampuchea along with “Palestine”? A “Palestinian” state would not make for a peaceful resolution of the jihad against Israel. It would simply become a new jihad base for newly virulent attacks against a weakened Israel. Do the British MPs know this? Probably not. Would they care if they did? Probably not.
How many times does this have to be done before the political elites get a clue? Or are they so thoroughly bought and paid for that that will never happen? The Israeli withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 was supposed to bring peace. Instead, I and just a few others warned that Gaza would just become a new jihad terror base. And we were right. So also, a “Palestinian” state would become yet another jihad terror base for attacks against a reduced, truncated Israel. The various “Palestinian” factions have never recognized Israel or retreated even one step from their repeated vows to destroy it utterly. Do these clowns even know what “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” means?
As long as they’re voting for jihad, how long will it be before the UK Parliament goes whole hog, as it were, and votes 274-12 to adopt Sharia as the sole law of the land? It would “promote community cohesion,” eh wot?
“British Parliament votes in favor of Palestinian statehood recognition,” by Jerry Lewis, Reuters, October 13, 2014:
Britain’s House of Commons voted in favor of recognizing a Palestinian state late Monday in a move that will not alter the government’s stance on the issue, but that carries symbolic value for Palestinians in their pursuit of statehood.
Lawmakers in Britain’s lower house of parliament voted by 274 to 12 to pass a non-binding motion stating: “That this House believes that the Government should recognize the state of Palestine alongside the state of Israel as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution.”
Britain does not classify “Palestine” as a state, but says it could do so at any time if it believed it would help peace efforts between the Palestinians and Israel. Government ministers were told to abstain and the non-binding vote will not force Britain to recognise a Palestinian state.
Nearly 50 MPs were in the chamber to hear pro-Palestinian Labor Backbencher Grahame Morris open the four hour debate which he said was a chance for the UK to atone for its historic mistakes – a clear reference to the Balfour Declaration.
He and party colleagues knew in advance that with the unprecedented backing of the Labor party – as traditionally the political parties do not tell MPs which way to vote in what is supposed to be backbench business – his motion calling for the British Government to recognise a Palestinian State would be passed, probably by a substantial majority.
Several senior pro-Israel Labor party MPs including a number of members of the shadow cabinet – angered by the decision of party leader Ed Miliband and Shadow Foreign Secretary Douglas Alexander to order Labor backbenchers to back the Morris motion by issuing a ‘three line whip’ – were understood to be ready to defy the instruction and abstain on the vote which was due at 10 p.m. UK time, midnight in Israel.
Former Labor Foreign Secretary Jack Straw successfully moved a manuscript amendment which stated that recognition of a state should be agreed as a ‘contribution’ towards a two state solution. He said if Israel had its way and recognition should be delayed until an agreement is reached between Israel and the Palestinians, that – in effect – would amount to giving Israel a veto over Palestinian statehood.
The Palestinians, he reminded the Commons had no say or veto over the establishment of the State of Israel.
A counter argument was put forward by another former Foreign Secretary the Conservative Party’s Malcolm Rifkind who told MPs that it was not possible to recognize a state which has no boundaries, no army, nor a government. The Palestinians he said, currently have two administrations and simply did not qualify for ‘recognition’.
Also he noted wryly, Britain did not recognize the State of Israel until 1950 when its borders and government and been well established….
Champ says
✡ WE STAND WITH ISRAEL!! ✡
John C. Barile says
Truly we do.
Bro. Nick says
Thank “the LORD JEHOVAH” for those that still do stand with ISRAEL here in ‘Amerika’, and most other countries around the word
– for there are most unfortunately fewer and fewer that actually do!
The promises of “the Lord God Almighty” are eternal and they are true:
{1} Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
{2} And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
{3} And I will bless them that bless thee,
AND CURSE HIM THAT CURSETH THEE:
and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
(Gen 12:1-3 [KJV])
“And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people;
and will give this land to thy seed after thee for AN EVERLASTING POSSESSION.”
(Gen 48:4 [KJV])
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Jiri Cerven says
Well, just yesterday there came a headline, that Obama plans to help Palestinians with another 220 milion $. Not sure how much US really stands with Israel…
ArcadiaP says
I’ll tell you what. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and all other religions need to join forces and send a message throughout the free world that they don’t care what politicians say. They need to unite and stand against this or perish. Once again as with the ideology of Nazism we are faced with a religious ideology that calls for the annihilation of all those opposed to the Caliphate & Sharia Law. The sooner we all realize this the faster we can begin the work while we have the chance. Join yourselves and your family members with organizations that look to fighting against Islam, the politicians (that have it wrong), and the media carrying the supremacist’s water bucket.
carpediadem says
The Germans did not vote for Hitler yet he was “appointed” to serve other political interests.
War eventuated and countries were devastated.
It is happening again.
graham Zalewska-Moon says
‘The Germans did not vote for Hitler’ ??? Carpediadem, you need to undertake a bit of research before you post.
derek Williams says
I agree fully – by forming a common front as suggested (of Christians, Jews , Buddhists, Hindus and any other decent religion) we need to send a message that the large majority of people on earth reject this totalitarian, fascist , quasi-religious monster of Islam – we really need to act with all of our allies.
ben Haggai says
Such as Rome of old, Great Britain has brought in all sorts of “barbarians” to serve as cheap labor, only to be overwhelmed by them, so that it now faces a change of its old culture, imposed by the very barbarians it brought in to help. It is a pity. If the Brits had any testicles, they would send all of these bastards back to where they came from. Kaput.
carpediadem says
In the case of th Muslims, they were brought in by the Left specifically to “change the culture” of the UK and annoy the Right, full stop.
They have succeeded in this.
The British govt has always had pockets of anti Semites and since it joined the EU they had to join the anti Israel imperative.
None of this is cowardice, or accidental. They made a deal with Arabs, have always dealt nicely with them, gave them most of then Palestine during the mandate and have always detested Jews having their own territory.
Jews are regarded as expendable and this cannot be ignored.
Barry K says
‘Change the culture’….. what culture. Christianity and Judeo /Christian values and cultures were destroyed a long while ago by Brits from both left and right.. They rejected Christ and abandoned the faith of their fathers in favour of secularist and humanists values for their lifestyles. Multicuturalism did not bring about the decline, the Brits and westerners brought it upon themselves by rejecting Christ. Now the Jihadists has less work to do. Rejection and abandoning Israel is the natural progression to rejection Christ.
If Christ means nothing, what is Israel to them.
Lawrence West says
I am a non practising British Jew and I am proud of being so, but sometimes this attitude of appeasement by my fellow Brits shames me. I put this down to ignorance and lack of a good education. If only they took the time to study the facts they would know that Islam is not a religion, but an ideology that is followed religiously. Hamas is the same as ISIS and the same as Hezbollah etc.
Kenny says
In reply to Lawrence West I can only express my embarrassment at our parliaments craven appeasement to terrorists. How similar is this to Chamberlains humiliating “Peace in our time”, appeasement and look what happened after that? To Israel, please don’t judge all British people by this.
Edward Cline says
Kenny: I certainly don’t judge the British by the myopic actions of a few. I view them as the unfortunate pawns of morally corrupt political and dhimmified establishment. A British friend of mine, however, to whom I sent a link to this column, replied that “274 out of 650 M.P.’s does not a majority make, but it will be perceived as such and raise forests of hackles on the necks of those who know the true score. Also, there’s more to the vote than meets the eye.”
Kenny says
Oh, and on your point of our politicians studying Islam. You must be joking. We’re they to do so they would be confronted with what Islam really means and there are no trendy, ‘right on’, votes in that! So, I’m afraid wilful ignorance inevitably leading to wilful negligence is the order of the day. If proof of this were needed, think Rotherham!
ben Haggai says
It always surprises me how cowardly the British have become. It seems to that their cowardice isn’t so much connected with anti-Semitism, as it is fear of the Muslims in their midst. They allowed barbarians to immigrate to England, and now they are afraid of said barbarians.
albert says
You are partly right mate, but there are some brits willing to fight back, but they are opposed by the authorities and the dhimmi media, groups like the EDL have tried to form alliances with jewish groups for instance but are not allowed to fight back, facing arrest and imprisonment for simply defending themselves while the BBC and the LABOUR party brand them as ” RACIST”
Bro. Nick says
@ Christy – in answer to your question – ‘Still “stand with Israel”?’ – YES
WHY – For THE EVERLASTING PROMISE BY “the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place” that HE MADE to ISRAEL and the JEWS:
{3} And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
{4} And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people;
AND WILL GIVE THIS LAND TO THY SEED AFTER THEE FOR AN
EVERLASTING POSSESSION.
(Gen 48:3-4 [KJV])
Are you aware that which is written in the Jewish Talmud – AND each and every one of Your thoughts – AND my thoughts – AND those of every man, woman, boy, and girl that – has, are now, or ever will live – are ABSOLUTELY NO SURPRISE to “the ONLY WISE GOD” – for:
“THE LORD KNOWETH THE THOUGHTS OF MAN, THAT THEY ARE VANITY.”
(Ps 94:11 [KJV])
{12} For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow,
AND IS A DISCERNER OF THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTS OF THE HEART.
{13} Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
(Heb 4:12 [KJV])
– All CAPITALization and emphasis of Scripture mine – Bro. Nick
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Champ says
Christy wrote:
Are you aware that the Jewish Talmud refers to Jesus as the bastard son of a whore who practiced sorcery by means of his “membrum” (go look up what that means) and seduced and led the people astray and how they now think that he is boiling in human waste in the afterlife? Are you aware that Jews refer to him as Yeshu which is an acronym that stands for “may his name be wiped out and forgotten”? Still “stand with Israel”?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yes, of course, Christians should still ✡STAND WITH ISRAEL✡!!!!!
And in response to your grievances, please read the thorough yet succinct answers from “Got Questions”:
Question: “What is the Talmud?”
Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/Talmud.html
Excerpt …
“Christianity does not consider the Talmud to be inspired in the same sense that the 66 books of the biblical canon are “God breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16). While some of the teachings from the Talmud may be “compatible” with biblical teachings, the same can be said for many different writings from many different religions. For the Christian, the study of the Talmud can be a great way to learn more about Jewish tradition, history, and interpretation, but the Talmud is not to be considered the authoritative Word of God.”
And …
Question: “Should Christians support the nation of Israel?”
Answer: http://www.gotquestions.org/support-Israel.html
Bro. Nick says
@ Christy – in answer to your question – ‘Still “stand with Israel”?’
– YES –
A clarification – Do I condone all that Israel does? – NO!
BUT – My continued personal support of Israel is based upon what “the word of the LORD” tells me as a follower of “the Lord Jesus Christ” – a CHRISTian is commanded to do
– not upon what fallen men do or say – past – OR present – OR future.
By The Grace of “THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY” I will personally continue to obey the commands in His Holy Word – to willingly and joyfully support ISRAEL – “the apple of His eye” – and an un-divided JERUSALEM:
“Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.”
(Psalm 122:6 [KJV])
{1} Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
{2} And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
{3} And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
(Genesis 12:1-3 [KJV])
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Petey says
YES! If you know enough about your Biblical philosophy, you’ll know that the Jews were never supposed to recognize Jesus as their Messiah! This was foretold in the Book of Isaiah. The mission of Jesus Christ was not for the Jews, He came here for other people. If the Jews had believed him and followed him, then when the time came for the banishment from their land by the Romans they would have over the centuries lost their Identity, in among the Christian Community in Europe at the time, They also would have become Paganized along with the rest of Christian Europeans, Again thanks to Rome. They were given a mission to specifically keep the laws given to them by Moses until the second coming. Then and only then will the Jews meet their Messiah. It does not mean a thing to me if some Jew is still convinced the story of Jesus is nothing more then a clever conspiracy theory or not, and if they don’t believe in the miracle of the virgin birth, then what else would you suppose they would believe, if her husband was not the father of the child? Only makes sense. We Christians still stand by Israel, because we were instructed to, this is a test of faith for us, do we listen to our conscience, or do the cool hip thing and blindly follow the other sheeple and be seduced by propaganda and lies?, in the hopes of being popular? I will follow my conscience thanks. I support Israel!
Mirren10 says
”Are you aware that the Jewish Talmud refers to Jesus as the bastard son of a whore who practiced sorcery by means of his “membrum” (go look up what that means) and seduced and led the people astray and how they now think that he is boiling in human waste in the afterlife? … Still “stand with Israel ?
Yep, I certainly do ! My reasons for standing with Israel have nothing to do with any religious doctrine, per se, and everything to do with ethics and morality, and what is just
. And, ‘Christy’, even if some Jews believe what you’ve quoted from the Talmud, so what ? Jews are not murdering Christians, blowing them up, raping, crucifying, or mutilating them, unlike your mohammedan pals.
Israel is the *only* democracy in the Middle East. Israel has bent over backwards to gain peace, only to be slapped in the face, time and again, by not only mohammedans, but those who purport to be her allies.
The tiny state of Israel is surrounded on all sides by Jew hating mohammedans, who want nothing more than to see Israel destroyed. Israel stands pretty much alone, and shows tremendous humanitarianism in the face of gross lies and propaganda from all sides.
Am Yisrael Chai !
Death to islam !
Champ says
Brava, Mirren10!!! …great comment, and I wholly agree!!! 🙂
Ayatrollah says
I was going to simply make a smart ass comment. But I’m going to read this to find out their motive for this vote. What do they hope to achieve with this?
Aton says
There has always been a big anti-Israel lobby in the Labour Party. Its like the London university that banned anyone from Israel, until they were reminded that they were being racist (the very thing the Left hates most).
Not sure why this should be so.
After WWII, the most vociferous critics of the Jewish holocaust and Jewish oppression by the hated ‘fascists’ , were the Liberal Left. But now, the biggest critics of Jews and Israel are – the Liberal Left. Why did socialism take up the baton dropped by Hitler, quite so quickly and quite so eagerly? Why is the liberal-left now the bastion of anti-semitic fascism??
To me, this is truly mystifying.
Aton
carpediadem says
Partly the UN’s Agenda 21, mainly the EuroArab Dialogue agreements.
read Bat YeOr’s Eurabia: the EuroArab Axis.
Inka Hutz says
Well said Aton. Mystifying to me as well, except perhaps as being willing pawns in the fulfillment of prophecy.
Kenny says
What’s even more mystifying is that Milliband the leader of the Labour party is Jewish, or has a Jewish background. Bloody traitor!
carpediadem says
Dead Jews.
Boston Tea Party says
What a great move! I’m sure all the British jihadis, and all the British Muslims who would prefer Sharia to the legal system of the UK, will now realize the error of their ways, and will now become proud, loyal British subjects. Huzzah!
Wellington says
This vote reveals in microcosm the ultimate threat to Western Civilization. The ultimate threat is not Islam. It is the secondary threat. The ultimate threat, the primary threat, is the utter foolishness, the despicable cravenness and the unforgivable willful ignorance of heaps and heaps of Western elites in the political realm, the media and in academia as they continue to shill for the spiritual fascism which is Islam—–as here with these 274 turkeys who voted in a great structure, a magnificent building, that once housed British politicians aplenty who had guts and vision.
No longer.
vic says
Shameful stupidity but what else could we expect from theses career clowns
Mr. Squat says
> Shameful stupidity but what else could we expect from theses career clowns
Don’t think so.
Politicians are not stupid when it comes to knowing what they have to do to get themselves re-elected.
I am afraid is not just these “clowns” in Parliament, but the British public at large who is pro-Islam.
Clearly, the MAJORITY of people in Europe and USA and Canada are politically correct multiculturalists. We, for instance, elected Obama twice.
Wolfgang says
Also Australia………………..is for accepting Islam, vast majority of the population feel the same way, most are pro islam.
Disgusting.
Inka Hutz says
Well stated.
kenny says
I have to disagree. I don’t think the majority of the public in USA, here in Britain, or Australia are pro Islam at all. At least here in Britain, the public are subject to ‘McCarthy’, style witch hunts should anyone dare speak a word of the truth about Islam. It wrecks careers, destroys lives and leaves people open to prosecution. So will people in the USA or anywhere else in the world please stop taking the piss out of us British because of our politicians, who we mostly hate, as it’s bad enough living with this and we don’t need our supposed allies sneering at us! PS some of us, myself very much included, totally support Israel.
Barry K says
Don’t make multicuralists your scapegoat. It was the Brits and westerners from both left and right wing that destroyed Christianity and the church a long while ago by abandoning the faith of their Puritan fathers. They replaced Judeo/Christian values with secularists and humanists values and philosophy. While the west reject Christ, the non western people and nations began to embrace Him in droves. Rejection of Israel is a natural progression of the western rejection of Christ. Nothing surprising, just don’t blame other cultures and groups.
Judi says
All the muzzies/jihadis/anti-semites will be out on the streets of London tomorrow, waving their palestinian flags and chanting “death to the Jews”
Wellington says
Agreed, though too bad they aren’t completely extinct by now.
katarzyna says
According to an August 2014 poll, half of Israelis had advocated sending Obama an envelope containing the Ebola virus as a present for his birthday.
i would send the same gift to 274 british lawmakers.
Charlie Griffith says
You should either give out the accurate source material here for that ‘August, 2014 poll’ or retract that dangerous statement.
katarzyna says
i do not. here you are: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/middle-east-unrest/send-president-obama-ebola-birthday-gift-some-israelis-say-n172786
first you should search online for ‘August, 2014 poll’ and then….
anyway someone wrote that according to recent poll 7 out 10 Americans think Ebola is a place in the Middle East. cannot find it online. do you know?or is it not true?
Charlie Griffith says
Good. Don’t be shy about citing sources for startling points at the outset.
alyn21 says
Britain never forgave the Irgun and the Haganah for forcing them out of Palestine. This is their revenge.
Charlie Griffith says
That’s complicated. Doubtless the Irgun and the Haganah had excellent reasons for their tactics during those fluidly desperate times. These are the details in the deep recesses of the files in London and Jerusalem. Maybe even in Paris. We’ll never know.
gerard says
Cameron and Co know some history?
I think you credit them with too much!
They’re just weasels.
Mr. Squat says
Nonsense.
“Worldy” Brits know first-hand how charming Muslims are. They can recount in great detail just how nice the owners and waiters of their favourite kebab restaurant are.
bc says
Most if not the pols. serving in Parliament today were not even born when the British left the country known as Palestine, they have most likely never heard of
Haganah and Irgun. They are voting because they naively believe statehood will change anything, the ‘palestinians’ will only be satisfied when Israel ceases to exist. the Valiant Israels have fought off the Arabs several times and will do so again. LONG LIVE ISRAEL, the only piece of civilisation in the Middle East
bc says
Sorry for typo It should read – Most of not all the pols
Guy Macher says
Traitors to Western civilization.
dumbledoresarmy says
*I* want to know the names of the twelve righteous men and women who did not merely “abstain”, which is the coward’s choice, but actually stuck their necks right out, declared their position, and said NO.
Every single one of the NO voters – every one who came out AGAINST recognising “the state of Palestine (sic)” – ought to be receiving, now, letters and phonecalls and emails expressing support, and explaining just why what they have done was *right*.
Put them on the List: the very select list of persons in public office in the UK who have shown signs of being prepared to put up some kind of resistance to the agenda of the Mohammedan Mob.
dumbledoresarmy says
If you’re a UK jihadwatcher: make it your business to find out how *your* MP voted.
Did s/he 1/ abstain/ stay away 2/ vote YES or 3/ vote NO?
If you are lucky enough to be a constituent for any one of the twelve who said NO…let that person know, as swiftly as possible, just how pleased you are, and explain why. The ‘no’ voters will, I suspect, cop a *lot* of flak – and quite probably outright hate mail and threats – from the Mohammedan mobsters and from the deluded dhimmis; so the more *love mail* they (the NO voters) get, the better.
If your MP was one of the 274 blinded – or, worse hate-poisoned – fools who voted “yes” to recognising “palestine”: let him or her know – politely! no threats! – just *how* displeased you are. And in your letter, quote that sentence from Mr Spencer’s intro to the article – “A “Palestinian” state would not make for a peaceful resolution of the jihad against Israel. It would simply become a new jihad base for newly virulent attacks against a weakened Israel”. Tell your MP that you are disgusted by his or her enabling of the annihilatory jihad against the Jewish state.
If your MP was one of the “abstainers”, write and ask why: and state that you would have supported a NO vote. State how much you admire those few people who went against the tide, defied both fashion and fear, and said NO.
Something to remember: things that have been voted IN by *one* Parliament, can be voted OUT by another.
This decision is NOT set in stone. It is NOT irrevocable.
It should be the business of all intelligent Islamosavvy non-Muslim UK citizens to start trying to work out how to UNDO this stupid decision. You’re stuck with it for a while, but there is no reason whatsoever to be resigned to it, and give up.
Mirren10 says
Hi, dda.
See below my email to my MP, who was one of the scum who voted in favour for this ‘recognition’
Dear Mr Trickett,
Pursuant to my earlier email.
I see from the Labour List, that you were one of the MP’s who voted in favour of the recognition of a Palestinian State.
I am writing to you now to express my disgust and anger at your enabling of the annihilatory jihad against the State of Israel. A ‘Palestinian’ State would *not* be a basis for a peaceful resolution of the jihad against Israel. It would simply become a new jihad base for further virulent attacks against a weakened Israel.
I would remind you that in 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza, on the understanding that this withdrawal would make for peace. It singularly failed to do so, as Hamas then used Gaza as a base to launch rockets at Israeli civilians. The millions that has been sent to Gaza, as ‘aid’, has been used, not to build schools or hospitals, but to build tunnels in order for Hamas to attack Israel.
No recognition of a ‘Palestinian’ State would bring about peace in the Middle East. I would suggest you read the Hamas Charter, which specifically states that the goal of Hamas is to annihilate the State of Israel. Any ‘Palestinian’ State would result in the destruction of the State of Israel, the **only** democracy in the Middle East.
Yours sincerely
dumbledoresarmy says
Well said, Mirren!
Brilliant!
Your Mr Trickett, MP, has no excuse, now. None whatsoever. He has been given the facts.
Perhaps other UK persons reading and lurking here may be able to use your letter as a template, if *their* MPs were also among those who voted “Yes” to ‘recognising’ “Palestine”.
Mirren10 says
If you come back to this thread, dda, you may be interested to know the reply I received from the sly Trickett; an ‘automated’ email, wanting to know if I was a constituent.
Below is my reply:
Dear Mr Trickett,
Thank you *so* much for your ‘automated’ email. Certainly I am a constituent of yours, as my address below, will verify.
How *very* strange you didn’t send me an ‘automated’ email the last time I contacted you, over the Asia Bibi case, the poor woman who is on death row for blasphemy ! There was certainly no question in your mind *then*, that I was one of your constituents !
Neither did you question whether I was one of your constituents when you came knocking on my door, asking for my vote. Is it only when it is a question of a constituent being angry over your support for the genocidal Hamas, that suddenly the ‘automated’ email kicks into response ?
My address:
My telephone no:
Yours sincerely
carpediadem says
Hello dumbledoresarmy,
If you want more details of the MPs who voted, go here to the Twitter feed of Grahame Morris, the proPali MP who proposed this motion:
https://twitter.com/grahamemorris
There’s a picture of the ones who voted for this abominable perversion.
Kenny says
It’s fairly simple to find out how they voted as it’s a matter of public record within ‘Hansard’, parlimentary records.
Edward Cline says
See my review of a new book on Muhammad here. It’s for Americans, Brits, and others who aren’t being told the true nature of Islam, which fools and people afraid of the truth keep yammering is a “peaceful” religion.
http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2014/10/portrait-of-psychopath.html
and
http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2014/10/portrait-of-psychopath.html
Edward Cline says
Also, see this site:
http://capitalismmagazine.com/2014/10/portrait-psychopath/
R Cole says
All I knew that the vote was non-binding.
There is an election within a year.
Dug up a bit more detail:
Labour’s Palestinian vote damages Britain By pandering to anti-Israel sentiment, Ed Miliband undermines our Middle East role Guto Bebb Conservative MP
Labour Party MPs possible revolt:
‘Justice for Palestine will bring peace to everyone in the region’
Senior party leaders intervene:
‘The government is not bound to do anything as a result of the vote.’
UN vote
jp says
“Well chaps it’s been long enough and our leftist history professor have been working overtime so I think it’s time to prep our own ‘final solution’ eh what.”
Churchill is rolling in his grave.
Barry K says
The Brits from both left and right abandoned the faith of their fathers a long while ago, not just a left wing doing. With Christianity and Judeo /Christian values eroded the way they desired, little matters to them if Israel is also gone.
gerard says
“a new jihad base for newly virulent attacks against a weakened Israel. Do the British MPs know this? Probably not. Would they care if they did? Probably not.”
Robert, the degree of your realism is scary. Bravo!
Cameo Red says
No wonder our Founding Fathers separated from Britain!
Barry K says
Yes, the West is not just anti Islam but anti Christ and anti Israel. USA is getting there too.
Anon says
“UK Parliament votes 274-12 in favor of recognizing ‘the Islamic State'”.
Hey – at this rate, it could happen.
tony says
Silly gesture politics,only Malcom Rifkind seemed to have to right idea.
tpellow says
A voice in the wilderness-
“British Parliament debate on recognising Palestine as a state”
Read more: British Parliament debate on recognising Palestine as a state | Howard Klineberg | The Blogs | The Times of Israel http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/british-parliament-debate-on-recognising-palestine-as-a-state/#ixzz3G6dlwUcm
Devotee of Krishna says
I trust that UKIP will be keeping careful note of all 600-odd MPs who failed to vote against this resolution, and deny them membership/defection rights, otherwise the UK is well and truly fucked. And put a three-line whip on all such future dhimmi capitulations.
Using the Palestine issue to gain favour and sympathy for iSlum is a proclaimed strategy of muSlum brotherhood, inspiring terrorist organisations like CAIR, Al Qaida, iSlumic State, Saudi Sand Monkeys, Qatar and their like since 1924 or so.
I’ll certainly be continuing dialog with my Hindu brethren and other friends.
Edward Cline says
Britain’s gone. France is gone. Scandinavia is gone. Most of Europe is gone. The “symbolic value” of recognizing a fictive state is actually a moral sanction.
Barry K says
Christianity and Judeo/Christian values already gone a long while ago when the Brits and the west abandoned the faith of their fathers. So what is Israel to them.
Sam says
Let them become all moslems.
Disgusting…
Neil jennison says
The government itself abstained.
But I take the point.
Charlie Griffith says
The freedom of the individual is limited by common sense[ at least tacitly amongst us in the West ] when it becomes a tool skillful manipulated for mayhem against many others, as is being done just now by these butchering Muslims.
We see that effect here in our America with the Freedom! Of! Religion! mantra being so loudly warped out of all proportion by the insidious penetration and infiltration of Muslims by such as their Muslim Students Associations.
Review the controversy of that “Ground Zero Mosque” in Lower Manhattan, of all places.
What we’re seeing is our hard won Freedoms being used against us very skillfully by these penetrated Muslims and their new mosques and madrassas popping up in our cities.
This is also called “political correctness” over here, and it’s particularly insidious when it’s used as a vote-getting and harvesting technique.
The dilemma we face right now is how to reverse this growing trend and turn it against our Muslim enemy – those very same people who daily remind us that they are indeed our enemy. This is the new guerrilla warfare we must learn. We don’t seem to be doing very well.
Elaine Goode says
If the U.S. gives any money to Great Britain, let’s STOP NOW. They have joined forces with the pedophile worshipers. They are gutter trash now.
salamander says
“there are 50 million Arabs, what does it matter if we lose 10 million people to kill all the Jews, the price is worth it” .( Abi Saud King of Saudi Arabia 1947.) The value placed on Muslim lives by Hamas should be evident , civilian bodies used as a propaganda weapon against Israel. Muslims back in 1948 rejected a two state solution, their goal then as it is now , the complete extermination of Israel. What it will take before our political parties wake up and smell the coffee God alone knows. Maybe the sight of their peers heads adorning the railings around Westminster will do it. Don’t give up your arms America.
Edward Cline says
While that’s a disgusting vote, 274 of 650 MPs is not a majority but will be interpreted as such although there is more to this story than meets the eye.
DaniEl says
I recognize ISIL, the Islamic state of London. All British building in London must cease in official muslim areas so an Islamic state can be established living side by side with the UK.
You asked for this England. Embrace those peace loving muslims until you lose your fool heads!
philipzhao says
Allah save the Queen !!
Coolio says
The Old Testament has some laudable features, like humility before a greater being and prayer. It’s also full of bullshit like son sacrifice. That muthafucka Abraham and his followers hav a lot to answer for. Anyhowz, most Jews are pretty intelligent, humerous and sexy; they ignore the bullshit in their old scriptures. Pity they still practice ritual genital mutilation on males. I’m not attacking Jews, many of whom I love, just their desert-age testament.
Screw iSlum.
Coolio says
Do you think it would be possible to use anti-discrimination laws to stop mosqes operating on the basis of their sexism, anti-semitism, sexism etc? Beat them with their own stick?