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CBC laments that online “Islamophobia” goes unprosecuted

Nov 1, 2014 8:32 pm By Robert Spencer

FiyazMughalTaqiyyaAside from its open opposition to the freedom of speech, the problem with this article is that it assumes that there is no legitimate criticism of Islam and its doctrines of jihad warfare, supremacism over unbelievers, subjugation of women and non-Muslims, etc. All “anti-Islamic comments online” are simply hatred of all Muslims and incitement to violence against them, and should be suppressed.

But the insidious agenda of people such as Fiyaz Mughal is to conflate all examination of how Islamic jihadists use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and supremacism with expressions of real hatred and bigotry, so that everyone will be afraid to explore the beliefs, motives and goals of jihadists, much less resist them, for fear of being charged with “bigotry” — which is, of course, what happens all the time.

This CBC article abets this effort by treating as a legitimate authority the dishonest and discredited Islamic supremacist victimhood propagandist Fiyaz Mughal. Andrew Gilligan reported in the Telegraph last June 9 that Mughal’s Tell Mama group was not going to “have its government grant renewed after police and civil servants raised concerns about its methods.” What was wrong with its methods? It had “claimed that there had been a ‘sustained wave of attacks and intimidation’ against British Muslims after the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby.” But Tell Mama and Fiyaz Mughal “did not mention, however, that 57 per cent of the 212 reports referred to activity that took place only online, mainly offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook, or that a further 16 per cent of the 212 reports had not been verified. Not all the online abuse even originated in Britain. Contrary to the group’s claim of a ‘cycle of violence’ and a ‘sustained wave of attacks’, only 17 of the 212 incidents, 8 per cent, involved the physical targeting of people and there were no attacks on anyone serious enough to require medical treatment.”‘

No attack on any innocent person is justified. Fiyaz Mughal is clearly not interested in defending innocent people, but in inflating the numbers of attacks on innocent Muslims, so as to create and perpetuate the false and tendentious claim that resisting jihad terror and Islamic supremacism somehow endangers innocent people. Tell Mama and Faith Matters showed this clearly when they demanded that the UK Home Office ban Pamela Geller and me from entering the country; the Home Office should have recognized the dishonesty at the heart of their effort in light of their manipulation of the “Islamophobia” figures.

And now, even though Fiyaz Mughal has been thoroughly discredited, the tools at the CBC are repeating his distortions and calls for restrictions on the freedom of speech, and repeating his nonsense about tweets, as if they were somehow equivalent to the recent murders of two Canadian soldiers by Islamic jihadists.

“Why online Islamophobia is difficult to stop,” by Duncan Spence, CBC News, November 1, 2014:

Islamophobia has been an ongoing concern in the west since 9/11, but a number of recent incidents in Britain have given rise to a new wave of hatred that experts say is finding a breeding ground online.

Part of the problem, researchers say, is that right-wing groups can post anti-Islamic comments online without fear of legal prosecution.

“If they were to say, ‘Black people are evil, Jamaicans are evil,’ they could be prosecuted,” says Fiyaz Mughal, founder of Islamophobia reporting web site TellMamaUK.org.

But because religious hatred isn’t covered legally in the same way that racism is, Mughal says “the extreme right are frankly getting away with really toxic stuff.”

Researchers believe the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and incidents such as the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby and the recent sexual exploitation scandal in the town of Rotherham have contributed to a spike in online anti-Muslim sentiment in the UK.

Imran Awan, deputy director of the Centre for Applied Criminology at Birmingham City University, noticed the trend when he was working on a paper regarding Islamophobia and Twitter following Rigby’s death.

Rigby was killed in the street in southeast London in 2013 by two Islamic extremists who have since been convicted.

Awan says the anonymity of social media platforms makes them a popular venue for hate speech, and that the results of his report were “shocking, to say the least.”
‘A year-by-year increase’

Of the 500 tweets from 100 Twitter users Awan examined, 75 per cent were Islamophobic in nature. He cites posts such as “‘Let’s go out and blow up a mosque’ and ‘Let’s get together and kill the Muslims,” and says most of these were linked to far-right groups.

Notice how these groups aren’t mentioned by name. The ones that are mentioned in this article don’t call for the destruction of mosques or the killing of Muslims, but they’re tarred by the implication. That is, of course, exactly what Awan wants to do.

Awan’s findings echo those of Tell MAMA UK, which has compiled data on anti-Muslim attacks for three years. (MAMA stands for “Measuring Anti-Muslim Attacks.”)

Tell MAMA’s Mughal says anti-Muslim bigotry is “felt significantly,” and adds that “in our figures, we have seen a year-by-year increase.”

Researchers believe far-right advocates are partly responsible for a spike in online hate speech.

“There’s been a real increase in the far right, and in some of the material I looked at online, there were quite a lot of people with links to the English Defence League and another group called Britain First,” says Awan.

Both Mughal and Awan believe that right-wing groups such as Britain First and the EDL become mobilized each time there is an incident in the Muslim community.

That is, an Islamic jihad murder, Muslim rape gangs preying on non-Muslim girls, etc.

The Twitter profile of the EDL reads: “#WorkingClass movement who take to the streets against the spread of #islamism & #sharia #Nosurrender #GSTQ.” Below it is a link to their Facebook page, which has over 170, 000 likes.

Below that page, a caption reads, “Leading the Counter-Jihad fight. Peacefully protesting against militant Islam.”…

Online Islamophobia is also flourishing in Canada. The National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM) is receiving a growing number of reports.But there are now fewer means for prosecuting online hate speech in Canada. Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act protected against the wilful promotion of hate online, but it was repealed by Bill C-304 in 2012.

“It’s kind of hard to say what the impact is, because even when it existed, there weren’t a lot of complaints brought under it,” says Cara Zwibel of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association.

Though there is a criminal code provision that protects against online hate speech, it requires the attorney general’s approval in order to lay charges — and that rarely occurs, says Zwibel.

Section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada forbids the incitement of hatred against “any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.”

A judge can order online material removed from a public forum such as social media if it is severe enough, but if it is housed on a server outside of the country, this can be difficult.

Ihsaan Gardee, executive director of NCCM, says without changes, anti-Muslim hate speech will continue to go unpunished online, which he says especially concerns moderate Muslims.

“They worry about people perceiving them as sharing the same values these militants and these Islamic extremists are espousing.”

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  1. Jacksonl03 says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    “Ihsaan Gardee, executive director of NCCM, says without changes, anti-Muslim hate speech will continue to go unpunished online, which he says especially concerns moderate Muslims.”: “They worry about people perceiving them as sharing the same values these militants and these Islamic extremists are espousing.”

    And if you don’t share the same values why the hell don’t you say so loud and clear and often? That you do not do so indicates clearly that you do share the same values just as you share the same Koran and embrace the same twisted beliefs as the so called “extremists”.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 8:58 pm

      Exactly
      Just crickets

      • terry says

        Nov 1, 2014 at 11:29 pm

        I already wrote a comment, in a previous post on this site, about why I stopped, over a year ago, tuning in to CBC radio. At one point I felt that I was about to throw up , literally! Here is the link:

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/canadas-national-post-its-been-a-tough-week-for-canadian-muslims/comment-page-1#comments

        • terry says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 12:43 am

          I wonder if the CBC stance on anything related to Islam, has something to do with the fact that several important CBC job positions are held by Muslims.

        • john spielman says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 8:36 am

          I wrote many comments on that CBC website blog and must admit that there were vast numbers of people who think like us at Jihad watch do with anti islamic sentiment.

        • Rob Porter says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 11:19 am

          Terry, that was very good posting. The dreadful part about CBC (like the Toronto Star) is that they simply lie and re-manufacture news. Every now and then I briefly watch CBC to see what ‘the other side’ is saying. Recently, after one of those viewings I wrote to tell Evan Solomon what a coward and liar I considered him over the issue of Islam.

        • terry says

          Nov 3, 2014 at 9:06 am

          Rob Porter,

          You’re right.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 9:27 pm

      Yes, if they believe the Quran is the perfect and unchangeable word of their god, Allah, they share the same beliefs and values. Some examples, followed by supporting chapter and verse in the Quran:

      Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them(2:191)
      Make war on the infidels living in your neighboorhood (9:123)
      When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them (9:5)
      Kill the Jews and the Christians if they do not convert to Islam or refuse
      to pay Jizya tax (9:29)
      Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable (3:85)
      The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them (9:30)
      Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticise Islam (5:33)
      The infidels are unclean; do not let them into the grand mosque (9:28)
      Do not desire peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them
      (47:4)
      The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them (8:65)
      Muslims must not take the infidels as friends (3:28)
      Terrorise and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the
      Qur’an (8:12)
      Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorise the infidels (8:60)

      Section 319 of the Criminal Code of Canada forbids the incitement of hatred against “any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, RELIGION, ethnic origin or sexual orientation.”

      Why isn’t the Quran considered hate speech and the incitement of hatred?

      • Georg says

        Nov 1, 2014 at 10:16 pm

        Because it’s not cool ‘n groovy to criticize an ideology adhered to by [mostly] brown people, no matter how much it smacks of the racism you’d be accused of for pointing it out.

        0___0

      • Anna says

        Nov 1, 2014 at 11:11 pm

        Exactly. And as far as GB is concerned, Muslims can hold up placards saying ” freedom go to hell” ” Sharia will rule” and ” behead all those who blaspheme islam” hold marches screaming ” British police go to hell” ” democracy go to hell” etc etc etc. All on video, nit just inline ” comments” proven hard evidence facts and nit even anonymous,all recorded in various media. But this is not hate speech, this is not discriminatory ? Or ” illegal” just normal, business as usual ????

        These people are under some sort of delusion, some ” spell” because this is absurd, maybe the delusion Jesus spoke of ?

        • terry says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 8:02 am

          Yes it is mam.

        • Jae M says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 12:57 pm

          Yes, they not only blatantly speak hate and threaten murder but act on the hatred and the politicians turn a blind eye to it. Meanwhile those who want to stop this hatred by calling it what it is are shut down. It is a grand delusion that the brainwashed are falling for.

        • forthfaran says

          Nov 2, 2014 at 6:33 pm

          If any court in Britain or the US or Canada or the West in general convicts people for speaking truth,then that society is not worth protecting or fighting for;it is already lost.

      • Edison says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 10:36 am

        @ CogitoErgoSum, Really like your comment,straight to the point.
        Besides how can they accuse someone of Islamophobia for quoting the
        Qur’an ? unless of course the Qur’an is hate speech.
        Ironic though I have never heard of a Muslim being prosecuted in Canada for calling for the murder of Jews or Christians online or in public.
        Anti-hate laws evidently only apply to non Muslim’s.

    • Alissa says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 10:50 pm

      I just want to punch that ugly face.

      • Rob Porter says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 11:21 am

        Alissa, how about rather using a baseball bat!

    • bc says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 4:49 am

      Feb 3, 2006. Day of anger was proclaimed. Across the Muslim world the Danish Cartoons were the focus of Friday prayers. Millions of Muslims who could not even locate Denmark on a map, incited by Imams protested. Embassies of Denmark and Norway were torched in Damascus, and Danish embassy in Beirut. Firebombs thrown at Danish consulate in Tehran, Danish and Norwegian flags burned in Nigeria and Algeria. They appear to think Denmark and Norway are the same!
      Protests from ‘moderate Muslims’ about the murderous activities of IS? To date none, not even dignified ones like marches etc.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 1:31 pm

        “And Take Their Wives as War Booty”
        http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6562-and-take-their-wives-as-war-booty

    • Michael Copeland says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      “Made–up Gobbledigook” is how Fiyaz Mughal described Islamic scripture. This is presumably an insult to Islam.
      http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6605-mughal-in-the-doghouse-professional-muslim-calls-islamic-scripture-gobbledigook

    • abad says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 3:06 pm

      “Moderate Muslims” are never going to collectively speak out against ISL and company.

      • forthfaran says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 6:45 pm

        I have come to believe that this “moderate” Muslim line is actually a nonsense. It is really an oxymoron;a Muslim cannot be a Muslim if he does not follow the Koran,ahadith and the path of the prophet.He cannot pick and choose what he follows;as the Koran,ahadith are self evidently not moderate in their teaching,a person who follows such teaching cannot be moderate. If they reject such teachings they would be moderate,but not Muslim. Therefore the only moderate Muslim is an apostate who is not then a Muslim and is under sentence of death by Islamic sharia law.

    • gama says

      Nov 12, 2014 at 11:30 am

      Fascinating isn’t it that a tiny, minuscule group of rabid religious zealots have managed to control a vast swatch of humanity with such ease .
      Islamic states’s puritanical sharia will be tolerated , sharia-is-sharia-is-sharia whether it manifests itself in a hijab,niqab or burqa { the whole nine yards of Wahhabi crazy, we have Canadian females fighting for the acceptance of that black-sack ! } .
      Muslims will not criticize sharia that would be tantamount to heresy. The Taliban,Boko Haram, Hamas, al-Qaeda ,Hezbollah, al-Shabaab and the Saudi Salafists keepers of Islam’s holy sites …. all implement nefarious forms of sharia with impunity.
      It wasn’t one giant leap for mankind but one small step for a vicious and vindictive flavour of sharia that transformed a relatively modern Afghani society in the 60’s, into one worshipping a malicious totalitarian ideology . A society that valued its beasts of burden more than they valued their woman while main-stream Islam looked the other way ……… sharia-is-sharia-is-sharia !

  2. Jay Boo says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    The cause of Islamophobia is simple.
    Muslims behead non-Muslims in the name of Islam.
    Other Muslims say to themselves “Not my problem” then say to us lets move on, “What about us”

    Islamophobia is born.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      IslamoREALISM is the concept that certain Islamic doctrines are inherently dangerous to the human rights and civil liberties of women and ‘others’.

      Islam has THREE ‘essential’ doctrines (usul ud deen), one of which is Al Walaa wal Baraa and another which is Jihad and Hegira.

      These two main doctrines are directly threatening to kafirs. Muslims are commanded to ‘hate’ kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ and fight them (jihad) until they are subjugated under a Sharia society.

      Because of the doctrine of jihad, sacred lies (taqiyya) are used to shield jihad from examination, allowing jihad to go forward.

      Accusing critics of jihad of ‘Islamophobia’ is merely a ploy to shut down analysis of the conspiracy of jihad.

    • Nicu says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 9:30 pm

      Exactly –it’s no phobia it’s real fear and hatred cos they do everything to be hated !

      In Germany you get prosecuted if you say something negative about Islam – but they may call for Jihad and do hate speech !

      They always complain cos they are so whiny !

      • Charli Main says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 2:52 am

        “In Germany you get prosecuted if you say something negative about Islam – but they may call for Jihad and do hate speech !”
        Exactly.!!!
        Muslims are free to openly practice Hinduophobia, Sikhophobia, Buddhistophobia and Jewishophobia because they are good Muslims practicing their religion.
        Laws against inciting racial and religious hatred don’t apply to Muslims because it would violate their religious and human rights to be Muslims.

  3. Richie says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Here we go, Muslims crying victim again

    • frank cahill says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      What I find amusing is that so many Muslims are crying about online “Islamophobia” yet go to any news article re: Israel (even on Time magazine’s Facebook feed) and you will find such sickening anti-Semitism (“Death to Israel”, etc.) that you cannot help yourself from developing a hatred of these “peaceful” people. Go to any Facebook Islamist-based group and you will find the same thing (“Kill all non-Muslims, kaffirs”, etc.). Constantly crying about “racism” (and exactly what race is Islam, again?) and “Islamophobia” yet openly inciting violence against Christians and Jews.

  4. King Dave says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    We are constantly told The Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam.
    Next we are told 1.5 billion Muslims reject all forms of religious violence.
    Yet there hardly seems one sensible Muslim in Syria. Or any reasonable Muslims in Northern Nigeria. Well, none still in one piece.
    It does seem the majority of Muslims and western liberals don’t care at all about the atrocities of the Islamic State and Boko Haram.
    And care even less about their victims

  5. Jaladhi says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 9:38 pm

    They are first rate liars and hypocrites and that describes their behavior in full!!!

  6. mortimer says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 9:50 pm

    Duncan Spence conflates criticism of Islam’s doctrines with criticism of individual law-abiding Muslims who do not actively support jihad. Criticizing Islamic doctrines is free speech; asking for harm against people is hate.

    The counterjihad movement is not a hate movement and does not incite harm outside lawful government-led interdiction of violent jihadists. However, most counterjihadists want their governments to take stronger action to stop jihadists before they act. Counterjihadists want more surveillance of the jihadists and would-be jihadists. If this conflicts with their human rights, we believe their is a compelling reason to do so.

    It is obvious though that many Muslims do privately support jihad and admire those who conduct it. They are in no way stepping outside of classical Islam by supporting jihad! Conducting jihad is the ‘original religion’ of Islam according to Mohammed!

    The end result of Duncan Spence’s is to stop governments from interdicting jihadists and citizens from expressing their insecurity. Human rights, civil liberties and freedom of speech are severely restricted in countries where Sharia law is recognized. Sharia’s discriminatory provisions are the main concern of counterjihadists, but apparently not of Spence who seems to think we should not be allowed to criticize theocratic fascism.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      The end result of Duncan Spence’s oversimplification is to prevent governments from interdicting jihadists and citizens from discussing jihad or expressing their insecurity their governments. This coincides what Sharia law demands: that no kafir ever discuss or teach about Islam. Duncan Spence is promoting Sharia law and the subjugation of kafirs…including himself.

  7. Ed says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 10:37 pm

    I am reading the comment section on this referenced article on CBC, and it is refreshing to see most people not buying it.
    Here is an example:
    Lenin-McCarthy
    “We never hear the terms infedelphobia, Christianphobia, Judeophobia. But why islamophobia? Christians, Jews and non-muslims can tolerate being criticized. Why should muslims get special treatment?”

    • Alissa says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 10:48 pm

      Amen to that.

  8. Everyone Else says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    The CBC is running this story now, in an attempt to dampen the exploding scandal about the Muslim women-beater inside the CBC and his Muslim Executive Producer protector. By screaming “Islamophobia” now, they’re hoping to prevent mainstream media from making the connection between violence toward women and Islam. For those not yet following the story, google “Jian and Noorani”.

    CBC doesn’t deserve to get away with this. Their News & Public Affairs has been toxic. During the latest Gaza war, every single newscast on every half hour, day after day included the words “mostly civilians”. No matter what else was happening in the world, and no matter how tainted the sources, “mostly civilians” managed to get into hundreds of newscasts. (Readers of this website know that the final tally was about 50%, which is the best ratio ever achieved in the world in asymmetric urban warfare. ) Plus CBC’s Derek Stoffel described Hamas as “The Resistance”, plus endless other assaults on Israel. If Ghomeshi was “hatef*cking” women, then the CBC has been “hatef*cking” Israel.

    • Judi says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 7:03 am

      Looks like they are going down the same road as the BBC.

    • steakman says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 10:55 am

      BINGO..!! I was wondering and said so on a NPost comment board Why I had not heard anyone speaking or looking into the relationship of Gomeshi and his Father…An IRANIAN. One wonders what the formative years were all about. Having another infiltrated Isalmic, Noorani as his exec Producer completes the picture for me.

      I am truly relishing this wonderful bit of SHIT the CBC has found itself mired in…one can only hope this infested Nest of Leftist/Commie/Islamic Appeasing-promoting SOBs goes down the proverbial drain. Canada would be soooo much better for it…particularly given it is funded publicly.

    • Rob Porter says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Everyone else,
      Ezra Levant has been superb on SUN TV while beating up the CBC over the Jian Ghomeshi female abuse issue and the CBC’s pathetic efforts at covering-up his cowardly beatings of women. What a pleasure to see that while the arrogant Ghomeshi thought he could bluster his way through the scandal over his firing and sue the CBC, the tables have turned, females abused by him have come out and given testimony, and Gomeshi is now being investigated by the police. What a delightful turn-around.

  9. Ed says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 11:00 pm

    Here is a comment from a reader that reverse-engineered the referenced article:

    Susan Victoria:
    “CBC does not do its homework.

    The group TELL MAMA had its funding cut this past summer by British government. Why? They made up most of their ‘hate’ stories…

    You also are not mentioning that the NCCM is CAIR-CAN, affiliated with CAIR who is the Muslim Brotherhood.

    Therefore, the CBC is once again promoting an agenda made up of falsehoods and lies.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/10108098/Muslim-hate-monitor-to-lose-backing.html
    “

  10. Ed says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 11:02 pm

    What is the opposite of islamophobia? Islamophilia

  11. Ed says

    Nov 1, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    What is the opposite of islamophobia? Islamophilia or Islamophrenia?

    • shrugger says

      Nov 1, 2014 at 11:47 pm

      The actual definition of islamophobia is, Shut Up Filthy Kafir. So consider what the opposite of that might be.

      • terry says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 8:18 am

        ” speak up decent human” ?

  12. Wellington says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 12:19 am

    Referencing what Mughal above is quoted saying, only a truly free society would not prosecute someone who said “Black people are evil” (or “White people are evil”). Yes, of course such a person who would say such a thing is bigoted and limited, but the far greater worry should be the criminalization by the powers that be in a traditionally free Western society of such a statement. Ditto, of course, for virtually any statement about religion and so many other categories. Besides, while a lot of general harsh statements are false (e.g., “black people are evil”), a lot are not (e.g., “Islam is a hateful, totalitarian ideology”), and, whether false or true, to the extent such statements are prohibited upon pain of prosecution then to that extent has freedom been eroded in a traditionally free society. After all, if you can’t offend, then just how much freedom is left and what is it good for?

  13. profitsbeard says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 12:55 am

    Death Cults tend to draw criticism from civilized human beings.

    Too bleepin’ bad.

  14. steve casey says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 12:56 am

    The press is NOT free but run by ideologues. How on earth can we confront this racist threat if we are being denied, Goebblesesque to put an alternate view of Islam together. Not one news outlet including Fox news calls a spade a spade and equates this mind virus with fascism.

  15. Jen says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 12:57 am

    They behave like this hatred isn’t justified. Of course it’s justified.

    We’ve got the jihadi Muslims actually killing people, and we’ve got the ‘moderate’ Muslims funding this terrorism, lying about their religion and calling it the “religion of peace” despite knowing exactly what motivates Muslims who are killing people since it’s in their religious books. We’ve got the ‘moderate’ Muslims behaving like they are the victims whenever one of their own coreligionists kills somebody and claiming they fear ‘backlash.’ We’ve got the ‘moderate’ Muslims wasting endless government resources in that they need to be monitored constantly in case they decide to become jihadists at any time they choose.

    Yes, naturally this outrage at the appalling behaviour of Muslims is merely hateful and unjustified. Trying to resist them and their attempts to impose Islamic culture on us results in them saying they are being ‘oppressed.’ (Trying to stop them wearing burkas etc).

    You can’t win with Muslims. They would prefer we bowed to them. On the one hand they are the aggressor, on the other they are the ‘victim.’ The victims are not the society which is being terrorized by their coreligionists. That society is filled with ‘unbelievers.’ By default, they always have to be the victim because there is really nothing that a Muslim can’t to do to a non-Muslim which is considered immoral. You can’t get much worse than killing someone or enslaving them.

    • Jen says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 2:12 am

      “Moderate” Muslims go crazy during movie in Sweden (mentions a gay bar).
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sRmpvdIIk

      Seconds into the film, we have “moderate” Muslims flying into a rage saying “stop the porn!” and a “moderate” Muslim woman yelling “Allahu Akbar” like a nutcase.

      Notice, the top youtube comment from another “moderate” Muslim and the number of likes (78 so far) that it has received. Presumably from other “moderate” Muslims who agree with him that this aggressive outburst is perfectly acceptable. Again, acting as if their “religion” shouldn’t be “degraded” even though the “religion” manages to degrade itself without any outside help at all.

      Completely uncivilized. One of countless examples of how little it takes to set these people off. They’re offended by “porn” but yet have a murdering pedophile Muhammad as a prophet.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 3:37 pm

        Moderates. Fooey. Even at best, a so-called moderate Muslim, if an adult who has had a reasonable time to study the religion and has neglected to do so, is negligent for not knowing what a destructive, totalitarian force Islam is and leaving it. However, I can understand the fear of becoming an apostate — lose your family, lose all your friends, have to move somewhere far away where no one knows you, or get to a country where Muslims are a minority, but you still have to watch your back the rest of your life. Bill Maher is right. Islam is the Mafia writ large.

        A whole bunch of the other “moderate” Muslims are only called “moderate” because they don’t support militant jihad, at least not publicly, and “only” support Sharia law. To me, those “moderates” are just as bad. I wouldn’t hurt or seek to offend someone merely because he is a Muslim, but when I see a Muslim in the street, I feel something like the disgust I would feel to see a Nazi or a communist parading. I find myself thinking of what the Muslim believes, what Muhammad did according to the Islamic texts themselves, and I get disgusted and offended that Muslims dare to show their faces — just as I feel about Nazis or Stalinists.

        Besides, the above “non-militant” Sharia supporters’ function as the good cop working in tandem with the jihadi bad cop. You get so scared by the jihadi’s demonic brutality that you are desperate to make friends with and be reassured by the seemingly non-jihadi Muslim. The non-jihadi Muslim provides cover for the jihadis, and shows that “true” Islam is peaceful. Right. It’s all about inducing a kind of Stockholm syndrome. Meanwhile Muslim population grows, and their influence on law and society grows, the amount of self-censorship grows, as people in public institutions are physically afraid of Muslims. Good cop/bad cop is also how a pair of interrogators work to break someone down. The good interrogator makes friends with the victim, offers him a cigarette, food, protection from further torture by the bad interrogator. Great method of psychological manipulation.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Nov 3, 2014 at 1:44 am

          eduardo

          you wrote – “I wouldn’t hurt or seek to offend someone merely because he is a Muslim, but when I see a Muslim in the street, I feel something like the disgust I would feel to see a Nazi or a communist parading.”

          (And, I would add, the disgust I would feel if I saw a person parading in full KKK regalia – the robe and hood that masks the face – and I am not black – dda).

          “I find myself thinking of what the Muslim believes, what Muhammad did according to the Islamic texts themselves, and I get disgusted and offended that Muslims dare to show their faces — just as I feel about Nazis or Stalinists.”

          Well put.

          They’re swaggering in our streets in their Gang Uniform like SS or Gestapo officers in full uniform swaggering in the streets of Occupied France or Occupied Poland.

          Or like the members of an outlaw bike gang in their black leathers getting ready to trash some little hamlet into which they’ve just ridden.

          And word to the goodcop/ badcop game.

          Notice that just after some ghastly atrocity either plotted/ attempted or actually carried out publicly by bearded quran-spouting mohammedan male thugs, our media is filled with pictures of oh-so-sweet butter-wouldn’t-melt-in-her-mouth doe-eyed hijabettes and niqabettes making big eyes and whining about how the nasty non-Muslims are being so *meeeean* to them? Those females are, basically, *human-shielding* the jihadis.

    • voegelinian says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 5:15 pm

      “On the one hand they are the aggressor, on the other they are the ‘victim.’ ”

      That is the two-track strategy of the Hijra-Invasion:

      Good Cop / Bad Cop
      Stealth Jihad / Violent Jihad
      Victim / Aggressor
      Moderate / Extremist

      All these pairs are different versions of the same process; and their continued success depends upon the Western naivete that thinks all the pairs represent two completely different things (the Good Cops have nothing to do with the Bad Cops; the Moderate Muslims have nothing to do with the Extremist “Radicalized” Muslims; or among the Counter-Jihad Softies, the Muslims Who Don’t Know Their Own Islam/Who Are Lazy/Who Are Afraid (etc.) have nothing to do with the Muslims who know very well what Islam means).

      Another, more vivid way to put this strategy:

      The New Jews (potential victims of “another Holocaust”) / The New Nazis (planning a mass invasion in order to perpetrate precisely another Holocaust — and worse).

      I.e., Muslims are both the New Jews and the New Nazis — the former in terms of their deceptive taqiyya Stealth Jihad; the latter in terms of who they really are under their masks.

  16. Salah says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 1:03 am

    Are you an Islamophobe?
    Take this simple funny test:
    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/are-you-islamophobe.html

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 3, 2014 at 1:48 am

      Shoutout to anyone new to this site or this subject.

      Please, please, please click on the link Salah has just provided, the one that includes the phrase “are you an islamophobe?”

      Because it will take you to the “Are You An Islamophobe” serious/ satiric spoof pop quiz devised by a clever Jewish American lady called Fern Saltzman.

      It’s modelled on those pop quizzes you find in women’s magazines: you know, where you tick the yes or the no boxes on a list of questions and then tot up your score to see which personality type you fit into.

      Read it. Take the test! Then: copy it to *your* computer…so you can print off multiple hardcopy versions to have handy for Thanksgiving parties, Christmas parties and New Year’s Eve. Because I think that, depending on the calibre of your guests, it could make a *great* party game and consciousness-raising device.

  17. Sam says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 1:03 am

    “Mughal” – lol even this dude’s last name harkens back to some mythical islamic “golden age” that muslims like to bring up so often.

  18. Jerry says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 3:16 am

    A “phobia” is the irrational and unjustified fear of something or someone, allegedly harmless.

    As a non-Muslim descendant of non-Muslims, Muslims, “moderate” or otherwise, have been trying to commit genocide against my ancestors and myself for the last fourteen hundred years.

    Islam presents clear and present danger to all non-Muslims. Because of Islam’s history of rabid intolerance even to other Muslims who do not perfectly conform to the each other’s views, Islam also presents a mutual clear and present danger to Muslims from other Muslims.

    It is disingenuous to label the recognition of such clear and present danger and warning against it as a “Phobia”, let alone “Acrophobia”.

    The “hate speech” that should be stopped is in the Qur’an, Hadith and Islamic teaching and preaching of intolerance and genocide against all non-Muslims.

    Burn al the Qur’ans. Demolish all Mosques. Behead all those who teach and preach Jihad.

    If you think that what I say is “extremist” remember that I say no more than what they say and preach should be done to me and all non-Muslims.

  19. duh_swami says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 4:08 am

    Islamophobia has been an ongoing concern in the west since 9/11,

    Really? Who is concerned about it? if not the Islamophobes could it be the Islamomaniacs? Islamomania is running wild, jihad is breaking out all over. But Shhh, we’re not supposed to talk about it, someone might think we are talking about Islam, and call us a bunch of racist Islamophobes.

  20. Steffen Larsen says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 4:51 am

    “Islamophobia has been an ongoing concern in the west since 9/11”

    …er, well yes. Islamophobia is a logical consequence, I’d say. Fear of islam has always existed, with good reason, and already in the first sentence there’s a twist.

    And online anti-islamic claims should be punished???? Just like that?

  21. mach37 says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 5:25 am

    Anti-Christian and Anti-God hate speech is rampant on-line, why give Anti-Islam hate speech greater benefit of repression?

  22. Owen Morgan says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 5:35 am

    ” Researchers believe the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and incidents such as the murder of British soldier Lee Rigby and the recent sexual exploitation scandal in the town of Rotherham have contributed to a spike in online anti-Muslim sentiment in the UK.”

    Ermmm…and why wouldn’t the cold-blooded murder of a soldier by muslims, or the mass-rape of girls in the north of England by muslims, prompt a loss of affection for muslims?

    • Martin Vink says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 9:03 am

      Exactly how are we supposed to react to the inaction of Muslims who are watching other Muslims raping and plundering their way across the country that has taken them in. These people were escaping persecution. We can perhaps understand now why they were being persecuted.

  23. Martin Vink says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 6:20 am

    Does Islamaphobia have a clear and understood meaning? Are we all talking about a crime that has no agreed definition? It is not even in my spell check. Perhaps we are giving the term a credibility it doesn’t even deserve?

    On the other hand, the beheading of Christians is murder. Murder is a crime. It is well defined, just as enslavement, genital mutilation, rape and various forms of torture.

    Let’s keep it simple.

  24. Hank steen says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 8:00 am

    I think the cbc should be put on the auction block !
    It doesn’t work to have only atheists running our ,personal,media source.
    Oh,I hope that’s not hate speech.

  25. Veracious_one says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 8:46 am

    in Muslim countries, non-Muslims must change their behavior to avoid offending Muslims. And in non-Muslim countries, non-Muslims must change their behavior to avoid offending Muslims.

    • Martin Vink says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 8:59 am

      Political correctness denies democracy to the majority. It is called political correctness because it serves politicians who pander to the minority at the expense of the majority. There should be a consequence to the politician by voting him out of office so that the will of the People is not denied and so that our values are not subverted.

  26. Truth says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 9:28 am

    The Muslim prophet Mohammad was an evil child molester ( he married a 6 year old little girl), and an evil supporter of slavery. Nobody should follow him anywhere.

  27. Richie says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 9:56 am

    Muslims see any impediment on their forcing Islam on anyone else as being islamophobia

  28. Richie says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 10:00 am

    Will Muslims also call for the prosecution of anti semitism online? I didn’t think so, as that would result in nearly every Muslim online being arrested

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 3, 2014 at 1:51 am

      You got it, mate.

  29. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 11:30 am

    … assumes that there is no legitimate criticism of Islam and its doctrines of jihad warfare, supremacism over unbelievers, subjugation of women and non-Muslims, etc.

    It doesn’t matter whether the criticism is legitimate, what matters is freedom to speak. “Legitimate” to whom, an actual law school grad in a black robe, or to what, a law or precedent that obfuscates and nullifies all or part of that freedom?

    As is known in here and now in growing numbers on the outside, criticism of a religion violates the reserve status of religion; who knows what happens when you die? That’s why they call it faith. I have no faith in the gubmint regulating speech to mollify and not offend Moslems and their precious mullahs.

    • Neil Jennison says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 12:31 pm

      This is especially a problem for us in the UK where we have no constitution to guarantee freedom of speech.

      Since Blair won the 1997 election we have raft after raft of laws that limit freedom of speech and opinion. Almost anything negative about Islam can be argued to be “inciting religious hatred” and thus illegal.

      I am truly frightened about the UK. It seems our current crop of idiotic, vacuous politicians from all parties have no concept that freedom of speech is fundamental to freedom and democracy itself.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 12:53 pm

        So give America too much credit, for we have not been a nation of laws for decades now. The Tenth Amendment was a reiteration of the enumerated powers, and that’s the law. Don’t like it, then pass an amendment. That too is the law. Instead we’ve gone on a law school journey into a fantasy land of first noble causes outside the law, and now outright diktat of laws by redefinition, revision or non-enforcement. There is great comfort in good laws, like the US Constitution, well kept. Now we wallow in the great discomfort of wondering what’s next from the White House and its self-serving bureaucrats in DC, the nation’s richest metro area (no coincidence, cuz politics is always about money, even the great dumbass Karl Marx got *that* right).

      • eduardo odraude says

        Nov 2, 2014 at 3:52 pm

        Really wonder what is going to happen to the UK. Somehow, you guys might still get free of your doom. On the other hand, you could end up in civil war, or simply give over your society peacefully, election after election, to the growing Muslim population. The place that produced Isaac Newton and the Glorious Revolution and the Industrial Revolution will in that case be replaced by a relatively sterile Londonistan.

        However, I’ve heard the claim that the Muslim population in Britain will peak at maybe 15%. I’ve also heard far worse projections. I hope the 15% or less is right!

  30. duh_swami says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 12:59 pm

    Quran 8:17…And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

    Mahoundians are innocent…It was Allah what dun it…
    And he is still doing it. The tests for the pious never end. Allah is a hard test master. If you get a D or F, he will kill you too.
    There is no room in Paradise for failure…

  31. Beth says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day [His appearance] shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition [the false prophet];

    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. [in the temple – in humans – 1Co 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? – that is why we are called “stones” – Jesus, Himself, being the Cornerstone – Who said: “Destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it “] Muslims worship their evil prophet as though he is God – do they not?

    2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

    2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    Commanded in their Koran…

    Mass Murder……………………………009.005 – 033.061
    Gang Rape………………………………033.052
    Beheadings……………………………..047.004
    Crucifixions………………………………005.033
    Robbery…………………………………..008.041
    Telling lies to non-muslims………….003.028
    Cutting off hands and feet…………..005.033
    Treason……………………………………008.067
    Racism…………………………………….005.041

    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    The koran calls the Son of God an abomination and all of His eye-witnesses liars.

    009.030
    037.151
    037.152
    019.088
    019.089

    1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

    2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [[This is the only explanation for the most unbelievable corruption that exists among the Fiyaz Mughals of our times – who hold positions that they don’t deserve. They refuse to condemn those teachings of the Koran – and yet, expect society to believe they are civil people. They are not]]

    How blind does a human have to be, – not to see the corruption? Only the true God could make a person so blind… blind enough, – not being able to have the ability to recognize the laws of the devil and his anti-Christ, who would never die for them, but rather, requires they die for him – after commanding them to lie, rape and murder. Only the true God could make a person so blind.

    • Beth says

      Nov 2, 2014 at 1:35 pm

      2Th 2:11

      And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

  32. Uncle Vladdi says

    Nov 2, 2014 at 4:42 pm

    YEP! HERE IN CANADA’s CAPITAL CITY, it’s all guns on deck and full spew ahead for all the leftist traitors, now that the Canadian public has recently become re-acquainted (temporarily, at least until the enemedia puts us back to sleep with their usual roster of mindless other distractions) with islam:

    http://vladdi.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/leftist-ottawa-citizen-traitors-defend-terrorists/

    …and, of course also:

    http://vladdi.wordpress.com/2014/10/31/muslim-columnist-cant-understand-islamic-violence-fears-backlash/

    ;-(

  33. Healer says

    Nov 3, 2014 at 12:01 am

    THE NCCM IS CAIRCAN [REBRANDED] to obscure relationship with CAIR and the

    Muslim Brotherhood

  34. Kathy Brown, Esq. says

    Nov 3, 2014 at 9:08 pm

    Waaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    For my $ there’s one, and only one, ‘Moderate Muslim’. That’d be Zuhdi Jasser (sp?).

    I arrive at that since 1. He’s the only one I’ve ever seen actually ‘speak out’ v. the psycho elements of his ‘religion’ and 2. He’s got about a million fatwas on his head.

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