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Ex-FSA fighter: Islamic State “magnet that attracts large numbers of Muslims”

Nov 23, 2014 7:43 pm By Robert Spencer

free-syrian-army-2011-11-2“We have a Free Syrian Army and a moderate opposition that we have steadily been working with that we have vetted.” — Barack Obama, September 2014

What was he working with them for? To get them to fight the Islamic State. But now the U.S. airstrikes against the Islamic State are being used by FSA fighters as a pretext to join the Islamic State. If this is true, they were never going to fight the Islamic State, and were never “vetted moderates.” Obama’s whole Syria strategy is based on fantasy.

“US air strikes in Syria driving anti-Assad groups to support Isis,” by Mona Mahmood, the Guardian, November 23, 2014:

US air strikes in Syria are encouraging anti-regime fighters to forge alliances with or even defect to Islamic State (Isis), according to a series of interviews conducted by the Guardian.

Fighters from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) and Islamic military groups are joining forces with Isis, which has gained control of swaths of Syria and Iraq and has beheaded six western hostages in the past few months.

Some brigades have transferred their allegiance, while others are forming tactical alliances or truces. Support among civilians also appears to be growing in some areas as a result of resentment over US-led military action.

“Isis now is like a magnet that attracts large numbers of Muslims,” said Abu Talha, who defected from the FSA a few months ago and is now in negotiations with other fighters from groups such as the al-Nusra Front to follow suit.

Assam Murad, a fighter from a 600-strong dissident FSA brigade near Homs said: “There’s no way we would fight Isis after the US military campaign against them.”

A third man, Abu Zeid, the commander of an FSA brigade near Idlib and a defector from President Bashar al-Assad’s army, said: “All the locals here wonder why the US coalition never came to rescue them from Assad’s machine guns, but run to fight Isis when it took a few pieces of land. We were in a robust fight against Isis for confiscating our liberated areas, but now, if we are not in an alliance, we are in a truce with them.”

These and other Syrian fighters told the Guardian in interviews by phone and Skype that the US campaign is turning the attitudes of Syrian opposition groups and fighters in favour of Isis. Omar Waleed, an FSA fighter in Hama, north of Damascus, said: “I’m really scared that eventually most of the people will join Isis out of their disappointment with the US administration. Just have a look on social media websites, and you can see lots of people and leaders are turning to the side of Isis.

“We did not get any weapons from the US to fight the regime for the last three years. Only now US weapons arrived for fighting Isis.”…

He and his fellow fighters were awaiting the arrival of Isis militants in Homs, he added. “The moment Isis fighters touch the soil of the Homs countryside, we will be the first to fight with them at the front. This [US-led] military coalition is not against Isis, it is against entire Islam.”…

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  1. dumbledoresarmy says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 7:52 pm

    From the whining of one of the mohammedan mobsters – “This [US-led] military coalition is not against Isis, it is against entire Islam”.”

    Well, actually, it isn’t. Not at the moment, not at all. But it damn well *ought* to be, and more the pity that it *isn’t*.

    We need The Order of the Phoenix. We ain’t got it yet, but we need it.

    Requirement to join? – the candidate is NOT Muslim, NOT a Muslim state, and recognises that the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, in its various local, regional and national/ transnational manifestations, is the sheltering sea within which the jihad terror raiders swim and from which, ceaselessly, they emerge; that it is *the* big threat to all Infidel humans, eclipsing in significance all merely intra-harbi quarrels.

    The candidate organisation or state knows that the basic formula we all have to get is this: “Got Muslims? Got Jihad”. And will Take Steps, accordinngly, to defend itself and assist all other parts of the dar al Harb to defend themselves against all further forms of Muslim infiltration, subversion, and open assault.

    • Wolfgang says

      Nov 23, 2014 at 8:23 pm

      @DDA

      You may be interested to know, I received a reply from Mr Abbott regarding several letters I wrote to him regarding how IS, ISIS, IL is [sic] Islam, his reply obviously written by the parrots in his front office who do the vetting was not encouraging…………I will quote :

      Dear Mr………

      Thank you for letting me know your concerns about the threat posed to Australia by domestic extremists.

      Whatever they think or say, these groups aren’t fighting for God [ Whose God ?] or for religious faith,[ wrong] at the heart of these groups is an infatuation with death [ partly right] .

      Muslim leaders such as Prime Minister Najib of Malaysia, and President Yudhoyono of Indonesia [ engaging in Taqyia ] have declared that the ISIL movement is against God [ Whose God ?] , against Islam and against our common humanity [ What does that mean NWO ? what ???? ]

      As well, Bahrain, Jordon, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UAE are active members of the coalition taking on ISIL.

      Our own Grand Mufti has said that ISIL is committing ” crimes against humanity” and sins against God.

      I wont put down more, very very disappointing to say the least, notice Mr Abbott is drinking the same coma induced water as all the other leaders of the West, the man and his staff did not quote one single verse from the Quran or any other Hadith to prove my quotes from the same writings to show the utter violence and depravity of Islam, I quoted him verses, their links, writings citing sources and well known established Authors. So instead I get a typical political whitewash telling me about all ” his ” new measures put in place to detect Jihadists. I am going to rewrite again and again, probably will make a pest of myself, but these people are complete idiots. Is there any hope ? I don’t know. I just can’t stand the mealy mouthed weak, sly approach the Politicians take.

      Notice all the countries he talks about ? Muslim ! are they going to say ” Well Mr Abbott…….the Quran actually DOES state we are to chop heads off, we are to take slaves, we are to force you Kafar to pay tax ……. ”

      That would be asking too much wouldn’t it ?…..

      spineless craven cowards…….

      • Mirren10 says

        Nov 23, 2014 at 9:03 pm

        ”. I am going to rewrite again and again, probably will make a pest of myself, but these people are complete idiots.”

        Good on you, and well said. I myself spend a considerable amount of time writing proper letters to my own PM (that fool camoron), my MP, and various political twits, such as may, et al. I sincerely hope I do make a pest of myself; I always think, well, even if camoron and the rest of them pay no attention, whoever opens their mail *might* read what I say (including the quotes from koran and hadith), and just *might* be motivated/interested/concerned enough to find out a bit more for themselves.

        After all, at this stage of the game, there is very little else we can do, apart from things like trying to inform others, boycotting mohammedan businesses etc, which I expect you do also.

        If anyone can think of anything else one might do, I’d be glad to hear of it.

        • terry says

          Nov 23, 2014 at 11:28 pm

          Wolfgang,

          Tony Abbott’s office letter, unfortunately yet again, shows that western leaders and governments, at least, seem to believe Muslim leaders, who undoubtedly are practising the Taqiyya, more than all of us combined, respected individuals, who really care about protecting our freedoms and the lives of innocent people around the world, with real education and life experience, from all walks of life, Christians, non Christians, ex Muslims, ex Imams, ex Muftis, including but not limited to-Robert Spencer, Ayan Hirsi Ali, Waffa Sultan, Ibn Warraq, Salman Rushdi, Geert Wilder, Sam Harris, Winston Churchill, Bosch Fawstin, Marc Christian, Raymond Ibrahim, Pamela Geller and last but not least all those good hearted people who take some time from their schedules to post educating, illuminating, inspiring, encouraging and motivating comments on this site.

          Waiting for a change of attitude from western governments toward Islam, is hopeless! We have to start looking at other options to confront its threat and continue this legitimate fight till the end.

        • John Stefan Obeda says

          Nov 24, 2014 at 8:18 pm

          Well, Mirren10, what else we can do is to pray. I know from experience that, since I feel that God doesn’t act fast enough at times and even says “no” at times, it seems to be a useless thing to do. But God the Holy Trinity urges us in His Book to pray for the welfare of our country. So God bless our leaders in the State and also in His Church so that our leaders learn well what they ought to know about Islam, and then to make the right decisions for the welfare of their people whom they are supposed to protect from their enemies. And Islam is our enemy.

    • Shane says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:05 am

      It is clear that only the USA can stop ISIS as most Muslims will do nothing or join with ISIS.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Not to worry as long as we send more loads of cash we can get them to flash the peace sign again instead of the ISIS one finger proctology symbol of Islam’s Allah.

  3. Jay Boo says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Having Muslim friends is like sailing with icebergs in the fog.

  4. jewdog says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    Don’t fight ISIS and they gain. Fight them and they gain more. Heads they win, tails we lose. The answer is no Islam, and then we win.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:05 am

      ISIS is revealing the inherent filth within Islam to the whole world.

  5. SallyA says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    “Obama’s whole Syria strategy is based on fantasy.” Yes, at one level true, as written in the article. At another level, Obama’s whole Syria strategy is based on … [fill in the blank] …

    Some possible [fill in the blank] choices are:
    … duplicity.
    … treason.
    … being covertly Muslim and wanting the constitutional USA to fall to Islamic theocracy.

  6. Wolfgang says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @Mustapha @Mirren

    I was speaking to my young Nephew yesterday, he wanted to read What Mr Abbot said, he was of the approach, like far too many of the 20’s something kids, that speaking out and making oneself [ me] a target for ridicule and possible anti Islamic attention was not good, his view was and is ” don’t make waves ” .

    He wants to get ” both ” sides before deciding further what standpoint to take on Islam.

    Abbott also remarks…………….

    ” Additional ASIO and ASIS officers are being recruited and deployed, bi metric screening will start to be introduced at international airports within 12 months, and more border force personal are now being deployed at international airports.

    ” Regrettably, the balance between freedom and security has to shift ” [ ala Police State ]

    ” As well legislation requiring Telecommunications providers to keep metadata [ key stroke logging and internet history ] they already create and to make it available to Police and Security Agencies [ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING]

    My question ….who watches the watchers ?, I am NOT saying there should be no monitoring, but to lose basic freedoms is NOT the answer, that only leads to Tyranny, how do I know that ? I am a child of two parents who lived and went through brutal ruthless totalitarian murderous regimes.

    Once freedom disappears, it NEVER comes back without a bloody fight, never. it is to be guarded and cherished wherever it lives. For Politicians crave power, the laws that are put in place are never repealed.

    Me ?, I cannot stand idly by, never could, I have all my life been outspoken and stand up for those who cannot, its a lot to do with my heritage and my generation after the baby boomers.

    I suspect I will get on a watch list or no fly list somewhere, but to me principle is worth it, I want to tell my grown children ethics, morality, biblicaly driven principals are worth laying selfish interest for.

    • Mirren10 says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 9:21 am

      ”I suspect I will get on a watch list or no fly list somewhere, but to me principle is worth it, I want to tell my grown children ethics, morality, biblicaly driven principals are worth laying selfish interest for.”

      Hear, hear, Wolfgang !

  7. Salah says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 12:08 am

    The Muslim Brotherhood tried to rule over the whole Middle East through the so-called Arab Spring. They lost. They lost Egypt, they lost Tunisia and now they are rapidly losing Lybia.
    This was Plan A (or the Stealth Jihad,) the equivalent of the Mecca verses (the peaceful verses) of the Qur’an.

    ISIS is nothing else than the Muslim Brotherhood going from Plan A to Plan B (or the Violent Jihad,) this is the equivalent of the Medina verses (the violent verses) of the Qur’an.

    “Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” (George Santayana.)

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:08 am

      The whole sordid filth of Islam laid out on display.

      Muhammad tortured people and Muslims call him a prophet.

  8. mortimer says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 12:46 am

    If they have joined ISIS, they were never very ‘democratic’.

    It’s one tribe and one sect of Muslims against another. There’s no noble group. They’re all genocidal murderers.

  9. Jay Boo says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 1:09 am

    Obama says the Free Syrian Army are friends.
    Hmmmm

    Look closely at the guy in the center of photo — Anyone look familiar????

  10. pumbar says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 1:33 am

    If you’re going to give someone rabbit ears in a photo aren’t you supposed to hold the fingers behind the person’s head? They can’t even get that right.

  11. Alex Emeka Buhari says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 2:35 am

    Am a x Nigeria niger delter militant commander, i love the strenght of the isis and will want to be part of them

    • kash says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 9:04 am

      What part appeals to you? The child brides? The beheadings? The idea that invoking your false prophet gives you carte blanche to act in the most savage way humans can possibly act? (You would be following his sick example, at least.)

      I’d suggest you check yourself into a mental hospital instead, because if ISIS appeals to you you are clearly insane. However, that would be insulting to the mentally ill. You need to leave that sick death cult, because it’s doing nothing but dragging you down to hell.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:11 am

      Islam is and has always been a pig-bath ideology.
      Alex Emeka Buhari you should be ashamed of yourself.

    • eib says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:48 am

      Evil is not strength. The strength of ISIS is not of or from God. It is of the world, flesh and the devil. Their victories are worldly victories. They redeem no souls, they create only terror, violence and death. They have nothing of God’s power. If you desire to join them, you are a stranger to God, and an enemy to humanity.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 10:56 am

      But.. but Muslim leaders have said the Islamic State is against Islam and… and the entire Muslim world is taking to the streets to riot and protest this hijacking of their peaceful religion just as they do any kaffir insult to Islam, and needless to say important Imams everywhere have pronounced takfir on these apostates, just like they did bin laden. No, wait, I was just living for a moment in Tony Abbott’s cloud-cuckoo land of good dreams, or is it the good ship lollipop (on which the moderate Syrian opposition sails).

      No, that would only happen if it were true the Islamic State was against Islam. This Commander Buhari, off to join the “stronger horse” knows better as do the thousands flocking to the Caliphate and to fulfill the End Times Extravaganza (and to reap their share of war booty). They know, like the Caliph with his master’s degree in Islam, that what the IS is doing is exactly what Muhammad did, exactly what the first Abu Bakr did, and is implementing shari’a by the letter. Whatever Muslim gangs remain to oppose them would be only because they wish to be the Caliphate themselves, not because the Islamic State are “against Islam” (which, if true, means Muhammad and his companions were also “against Islam”).

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 24, 2014 at 11:20 am

        ISIS is Islam
        Islam if filth
        Muhammad was not a prophet which every Qur’an reading Muslim knows but is afraid to admit.
        Muhammad was the embodiment of cheap lusts and moral weakness.

        All Muslims should bow their heads in shame.

    • John Stefan Obeda says

      Nov 24, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      Alex Emeka Buhari. I don’t know if you know that you and I and everyone have three powerful enemies that we have to fight all the days of our lives. The three are: the devil that brought sin and death into the world, the world which cares not about God’s Word and ways, and our sinful human nature that also wants nothing to do with the true God. God bless you to win the battle with God’s help against these strong foes. Let me encourage you to get hold of a Bible and read the book of John. If you lose the battle during your temporal sojourn on earth, be certain that you will not win the battle after you’re dead. God sent Jesus to help us. God bless you with the truth and win the battle against your enemies: the devil, the world, and your sinful human nature.

    • pumbar says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 1:28 am

      “Am a x Nigeria niger delter militant commander”.

      I think you better line up with the others and get your cardboard hat and apron; there’re burgers to be served.

    • Amir Mustafa says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 5:44 pm

      I support you. Most people have failed to understand that Islam is a religion of peace and peace does not without a sword.

  12. Neil Jennison says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 10:52 am

    “”Obama’s whole Syria strategy is based on fantasy.””

    You can say that about all Obama’s strategies not just his Syrian one.

  13. Dave J says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 11:49 am

    ISIS attracts foreign fighters in the same way that Islam attracts prison converts. They seek a way to justify and act out their murderous and criminal inclinations. They go to Syria to do what they would like to do in their countries of residence.

    US prisons are the perfect breeding grounds for more radical Muslims. It is condoned and encouraged by well paid prison “chaplains”, many of whom are former prisoners themselves. The same thing is happening in the Military in the name of equal rights, leading to things like the Fort Hood massacre (sorry, “workplace violence incident”).

  14. david says

    Nov 24, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    Zechariah 12 American Standard Version (ASV)

    1 The burden of the word of Jehovah concerning Israel. Thus saith Jehovah, who stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him:

    2 behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of reeling unto all the peoples round about, and upon Judah also shall it be in the siege against Jerusalem.

    3 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all the peoples; all that burden themselves with it shall be sore wounded; and all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together against it.

    4 In that day, saith Jehovah, I will smite every horse with terror, and his rider with madness; and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the peoples with blindness.

    5 And the chieftains of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem are my strength in Jehovah of hosts their God.

    6 In that day will I make the chieftains of Judah like a pan of fire among wood, and like a flaming torch among sheaves; and they shall devour all the peoples round about, on the right hand and on the left; and they of Jerusalem shall yet again dwell in their own place, even in Jerusalem.

    7 Jehovah also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem be not magnified above Judah.

    8 In that day shall Jehovah defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of Jehovah before them.

    9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

    10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look unto me whom they have pierced; and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first-born.

    11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

    12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

    13 the family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of the Shimeites apart, and their wives apart;

    14 all the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

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