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John Cleese says you can’t make jokes about Muslims: “They’ll kill you”

Nov 28, 2014 5:32 pm By Robert Spencer

John CleeseThis is the rationale behind more than just why people don’t make jokes about Muslims. It is also a key motivation for the solicitude that the mainstream media shows to Muslim sensitivities, such as its general refusal to show the Muhammad cartoons even when they were international news — a circumspection media outlets never showed regarding material that Christians found offensive. They knew the Christians were not going to kill them.

“John Cleese says you can’t make jokes about Muslims – because ‘they’ll kill you,'” by Annabel Grossman, Daily Mail, November 27, 2014:

John Cleese has argued that political correctness is ‘condescending’ as it only allows jokes to be made about certain groups while implying others need to be protected.

Speaking to Bill Maher on HBO, the legendary comedian said he used to make race jokes about nationalities such as the French and Australians – but if he mentioned Mexicans it was deemed unacceptable.

‘It’s so awful isn’t it? he said. ‘It starts out as a halfway decent idea, and then it goes completely wrong.

‘Make jokes about Swedes and Germans and French and English and Canadians and Americans, why can’t we make jokes about Mexicans? Is it because they are so feeble that they can’t look after themselves?

‘It’s very very condescending there.’

The British comedian then goes on to say suggest that the reason you can’t make jokes about Muslims is because ‘they’ll kill you’.

‘Who are the people you can’t make jokes about?’ he asks Maher who instantly responds: ‘Muslims’

‘Try that,’ he adds. ‘See what your Twitter feed says.’

A laughing Cleese responds: ‘That’s not saying that you can’t, it just means that they’ll kill you. Theoretically you could.’

The comedian added: ‘The problem is if you make jokes about people who are going to kill you, there is a sort of tendency to hold back a little isn’t there?’…

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  1. Tonyr Omabian says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    Of course “the vast majority of Muslims are … etc” but all you need is one, and the vast majority doesn’t seem concerned about stopping him.

    • Islam_Macht_Frei says

      Nov 28, 2014 at 11:33 pm

      For example. the “vast majority” of people in Dealy Plaza that November day in 1963 were there to warming greet President Kennedy.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 29, 2014 at 1:47 am

      “The vast majority of Muslims…” Let’s pause here.

      65% of Muslims desire a caliphate and strict Sharia law…(that’s what ISIS is).

      Sharia law ‘protects’ the ‘honor’ of Muslims, but not the ‘honor’ of kafirs.

      Muslims may defend their ‘honor’ if a kafir attacks it through mockery!

      Sharia law’s ‘slander’ provision protects Muslims from having their ‘feelings’ hurt by someone ‘mentioning’ a true fact about them…e.g. ‘he snores’.

      All comics need to understand Sharia law.

      • Tony Gibson says

        Nov 29, 2014 at 5:05 am

        Why ‘understand’ something which is completely bogus & contemptible? Have you read Daniel Greenfield’s critique on what ‘Peace’ means to a muzzie? It puts paid to any pussy footing around with these barbarians http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/peace-with-islam-in-our-time/#comment-1717482100

      • Shane says

        Nov 29, 2014 at 10:32 am

        Great points. How can anyone say that Muslims are peaceful when so many of them approve of their barbaric sharia law that mandates the death penalty for apostasy, blasphemy, adultery, as well as other crimes? Also, many Muslims donate money to terrorist and jihad groups.

      • Betty says

        Nov 29, 2014 at 11:10 am

        what about other people feelings? they hurt my feelings just being in AMERICA, can I sue them and make them leave the country? the nasty rag heads. they hurt my feelings talking about Jews being descendant’s of ape and pigs that the muslim pigs really hurts and I am not a Jew. but I do stand with Israel and the good Jews. is this one of those do as I say not as I do things? thy should be ashamed for acting like they are better than any one else. they are not they are a disgrace to humans. they are lower than a snake crawling around on the ground.

    • dagmiller says

      Nov 29, 2014 at 11:21 am

      Hey, It’s the religion, stupid!

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    And now for something completely different:

    • Nicu says

      Nov 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm

      well , said Mr. Cleese — Monty Python’s Flyling Circus 🙂

      They made the LIfe of Brian – thank god not with Muslims !

      • Wtf? says

        Nov 28, 2014 at 10:59 pm

        Thank Christ is was set 500 years before the moron Mohommed. Even the Womans had a sense of humour, er Romans.

  3. marc says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Yes, we all remember all the demonstrations and rioting when John Cleese did this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk

    don’t we?

  4. Diane Harvey says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    John,

    May I suggest that you posthaste become Minister with Portfolio for the Ministry of Silly Thinking?

  5. JS says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 6:30 pm

    In addition to that, Islam as a so-called religion of peace is already a joke in itself (not in a funny way that is).

    • mortimer says

      Nov 29, 2014 at 1:51 am

      Wouldn’t it be great seeing John Cleese with an earnest face talking about the ‘religion of peace’?

      Just dreaming here.

  6. Don McKellar says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Isn’t it sad when some old British comedian knows so vastly much more than the PM does about the world and reality and is honest and brave enough to say it? It tells us everything about how weak the UK is right now, when it needs to be strong. Not since WW2 has it so needed strength in leadership — and it has none.

    • greyhound fancier says

      Nov 28, 2014 at 8:47 pm

      Government has a tiger by the tail, which they incidentally invited to their home. Now they don’t know what to do, since the tiger is doing what tigers do.

  7. Salah says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 7:37 pm

    ‘Who are the people you can’t make jokes about?’ he asks Maher who instantly responds: ‘Muslims’

    Find out ‘Who are the people you can’t make jokes about?’ and you’ll know who is actually ruling the country.

  8. Wellington says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 8:10 pm

    It’s time for comedians and comedic writers in the West in general (examples: those who produce South Park and Jon Stewart) to very publicly announce that until they can mock ALL religions without fear of bodily punishment or death, they will mock NO religions. This in and of itself would send yet another signal to the West at large that Islam is the turd in the religious punch bowl. Oh yeah, somertimes, silence can be deafening and golden.

    • Don McKellar says

      Nov 28, 2014 at 9:29 pm

      “Turd punch” — that’s a very apt term I haven’t heard before. It describes the posts of far too many on Jihad Watch. A real shame.

      • Don McKellar says

        Nov 28, 2014 at 9:32 pm

        By the way, the suggestion will accomplish absolutely ZILCH. NOTHING. JACK.

        But it will make people like Wellington happy — because then they won’t making fun of the fictional crucified vampire-zombie with the beard for a while.

        • Wellington says

          Nov 28, 2014 at 9:46 pm

          Get a life, Don McKellar. This would include not making a religion out of not having one. Try doing two things: 1) Growing up; and 2) Realizing that you have an exaggerated sense of your own self-importance. (Hint: the two are related.)

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 28, 2014 at 10:17 pm

          What the hell is Don McKellar doing here in answering his own comment to take a dig at Wellington?
          Does this mean that he is in agreement with himself?
          Or is he waiting for a reply from Don McKellar ?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 29, 2014 at 4:28 pm

          Don McKeller wrote:

          But it will make people like Wellington happy — because then they won’t making fun of the fictional crucified vampire-zombie with the beard for a while.
          ……………………………

          Where to start? Firstly, Wellington, though he respects cultural Christianity, *is an agnostic*. The idea that he is desperately trying to deflect jokes about Jesus is simply ludicrous.

          Secondly, there is *nothing* in the article above that suggests that joking about Christianity should be prevented—far from it. The story, in fact, quotes a member of the comedy troop responsible for “Always Look on the Bright Side of Life” and “The Holy Hand Grenade”.

          Whatever your view of Jesus—even if you refer to him grotesquely as “the fictional crucified vampire-zombie with the beard”, which, incidentally, is not even satirical but just intended to offend—Christians are not going to riot and kill you over it.

          The point is that Muslims *will* riot and kill over any perceived fun poked at their own creed.

          Hence, most comics are too frightened to make any jokes not just about the religious aspect of Islam, but even to criticize its terrible violence.

          How can you not understand the threat that this presents?

        • Western Canadian says

          Nov 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm

          Probably waiting for a reply from himself, as it is obviously obvious (to his own weird and twisted mind) that there is no one on this board who can match his towering intellect and overpowering mass of knowledge….. At least, in his own weird and twisted mind.

          Like most ‘modern’ atheists, he has know idea how weak his offering are, and how pathetically ignorant he is. And how much a waste of time it would be for anyone to try to get him up to speed….

        • Champ says

          Nov 29, 2014 at 11:57 pm

          Get lost “Don” …

        • Champ says

          Nov 30, 2014 at 12:06 am

          “Don” wrote this vile remark about Jesus Christ:

          “…because then they won’t making fun of the fictional crucified vampire-zombie with the beard for a while.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          I won’t soon forget this vicious attack on our LORD and Savior by “Don” …keep it up; you won’t last long.

  9. gravenimage says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    John Cleese says you can’t make jokes about Muslims: “They’ll kill you”

    The comedian added: ‘The problem is if you make jokes about people who are going to kill you, there is a sort of tendency to hold back a little isn’t there?’…
    ………………………………………

    Classic British understatement.

    In fact, there should be a *flood* of jokes about violent Muslims, just as there was a flood of jokes about Nazis and the Axis during WWII.

    Here’s Achmed the Dead Terrorist:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQeuR8oGAo

    And here’s one of my own cartoons, featuring the sanguinary “Prophet”:

    http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/BanuQurayza.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2&_suid=141722536926404078755888622254

    • St. Croix says

      Dec 1, 2014 at 8:57 pm

      @gravenimage

      thanks for sharing your art. I’m also an artist and have ideas for comic strips etc. on this topic. Not just ragging on Mohammed but highlighting the surreal and ridiculous pass we’ve come to in the West by appeasing and being held hostage by Islam’s supporters and believers.

      But I don’t want to end up under police protection like that Danish cartoonist–or worse–dead! At least not yet. When push comes to shove I will die before I submit or convert to Islam but I hope to do some damage first. The very fact I have to think this through before taking action because it could put my life at risk means we no longer have free speech in reality. Just on paper. On paper for now anyway. Though on certain Muslim papers (OIC Treaties for example) we don’t have it even in words–seems that is what everyone is following (the slander definitions of Shaira).

      I’d rather put comic commentary out there anonymously and receive no credit if it means I can keep doing it and it will make some people think. Also if others have brilliant ideas that could be illustrated I’d be happy to donate my talents.

      • Nicu says

        Dec 1, 2014 at 11:12 pm

        ” If you want to find out who rules you – try to find out whom you may not criticize ” – Voltaire

        what a shame and too sad !

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2014 at 8:29 pm

        Thanks for your reply, St. Croix.

        You will note that I post my anti-Jihad work under “gravenimage”, not my given name.

        I would love to see more anti-Jihad work out there—there’s the satirical “Truth About Muhammad”, which was published anonymously, and Derek Devereaux’s scathing but oddly little-known Muhammed painting:

        http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MzxspybHr6Y/S9DlgRttdiI/AAAAAAAABx0/3qIq3FmtqUM/s1600/revenge7.jpg

        Then there is the brilliant Pig Man—the graphic novel is actually called “The Infidel”—by brave and talented Muslim apostate Bosch Fawstin. His work has been featured here at Jihad Watch many times. Here’s his blog:

        fawstin.blogspot.com

        There isn’t much else.

        You could do what I did, and set up an anonymous account at Photobucket. You can see more of my work here:

        http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/library/?sort=3&page=1

        I want to do a lot more, though—more in my “Heroes Against Jihad” series, and I’e talked with another person at JW about doing a life of the “Prophet”.

        I’d love to see some of your work here.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 4, 2014 at 1:36 pm

          Thanks for your considered reply.

          With all respect, though, I don’t believe that opposing child rape and mass murder, lauding Heroes Against Jihad, saying “I Am A Gharkad Tree” in support of the victims of Jihad, or urging people to “Always Remember, Never Forget” re 9/11 to be “irrational and gross” in the least.

          As for sentiment, I suppose great artists like Goya could be accused of being sentimental, as well.

          I am actually quite familiar with the history of propaganda. Certainly, there are myriad different approaches, and many of them are valid and effective.

          Certainly, though, I consider the savagery of Islam to be much more “irrational and gross” than I do almost any possible criticism of it. Sorry if you do not agree.

          And while I agree with you about the AFDI ad, it is notable that one poster on that thread—a Muslim apologist—was wringing his hands over its “crossing the line” for something commuters would be exposed to.

          The fact is that all too many—both those who don’t believe that any criticism of Muslim savagery should be allowed at all, and those who want to remain in denial about it—that *any* criticism or even questioning of Islam, no matter how mild, will be too much.

  10. Rob says

    Nov 28, 2014 at 11:52 pm

    Sure but until they get the chance to ‘kill you’ they’ll play the victim as in NZ currently.
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/63646448/Muslim-communities-facing-a-backlash-over-law
    No examples of harassment. No comment from the NZ Race Relations Commissioner.
    .

    • deja vu says

      Nov 29, 2014 at 9:21 pm

      Glad you posted this, Rob. Utterly pathetic histrionics. Sniffle, sniffle, “It takes years to build up trust….” Yeah, riiight. Some of us have long memories and it seems the president is dissimulating.

      This revelation from 2007, which apparently ‘shocked’ the then president of FIANZ, whose current president is now complaining that the proposed legislation predominantly targets Muslims. So what? Why would they be crying foul if they had a clear consicence? It reveals the exact opposite, and with good reason. One example:

      ‘The President of the Federation of Islamic Associations of New Zealand (FIANZ), Javed Khan, was doubly shocked to find out about the backgrounds of the extreme Wahhabi Islam visitors, because his organization had personally invited them here to help encourage local Muslims in their faith.

      For seven years, preachers, whose works include book urging followers to kill Jews, Christians, pagans and Hindus, have been holding “workshops” in mosques and university student halls up and down New Zealand, yet no one from the Government, Security Intelligence Service or police ever lifted a finger to ring Javed Khan and ask why moderate NZ Muslims were inviting the world’s most extremist clerics here.’

      It gets worse:

      ‘The FIANZ Annual Report for June 2000 through May 2001 records one such “North Island” camp, held at the Kauaeranga Forest Education Camp on the Coromandel Peninsula between 12 and 14 January 2001. “The theme of the camp was ‘The Khilafah and man’s role as Khalifah’.”

      http://www.thebriefingroom.com/archives/2007/03/preachers_of_ha.html

  11. mortimer says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 2:02 am

    What did the Moslem terrorist say to the critic? If you say Islam is violent, I’ll kill you.

    What did the terrorist instructor say to his class? Students, I’m teaching suicide bombing today, so pay attention because I’ll only do this once.

  12. Beagle says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 4:53 am

    Everyone expects the Muslim Inquisition!

  13. Truth says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 7:31 am

    The Muslim prophet Mohammad was an evil child molester ( he married a 6 year old little girl) and an evil supporter of slavery.

  14. David says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Three Muslims were walking down the street: a rapist, a terrorist & a murderer. That was the first one.

    • St. Croix says

      Dec 1, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      Let me guess their names. Mohammed…Mohammed and uh…Mohammed!

  15. Momma says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 12:14 pm

    Now, we understand why the World Leaders are bowing their heads to Allah and Muslims. Pure Fear…a bunch of cowards sacrificing their citizens..wow… Why do I see more Women standing against Islam/Muslims than Men? Why do we see World Leaders bowing down to a pagan Moon God? Why is our children being taught Islam in school? Guess the devil himself knows his time is limited..

  16. Viper says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 7:28 pm

    Yes we r wateva u call us….leave us alone and let everyone do his religion. Our babarian laws are what keeps us from being like you all. D death penalty rids us of the evils in our society. U hv d right to expose ur body, we have d responsibility to be modest, you joke with ur source of divine guidance but we honour and respect ours bcos we know the message isnt a joke. sm get violent only bcos you have forced them and violated their rights of worship. But our Shariah law protects the rights of non-muslims living under Islamic caliphate just as other muslims.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 30, 2014 at 7:04 pm

      Typical illiterate prose from a Mahoundian…

      The most absurd thing, of course, is the idea that Muslims just want to be left alone—instead, nothing could be further from the truth, as they constantly try to impose their own barbaric Islamic laws on all of us.

  17. profitsbeard says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 9:00 pm

    Be funny if the Koran had be meant as a joke… but nobody got it.

    (“Why isn’t anybody laughing?” Mohammad wondered, as he wrapped up his favorite Unfaithful believers in hell with boiling lead poured in their ears for listing to music” routine. “Tough audience,” he said to his camel ‘Allah’ as he walked slowly back to his threadbare tent.)

  18. Western Canadian says

    Nov 29, 2014 at 11:40 pm

    What is a muslim who has both a goat and a camel?? Bi-sexual.

  19. BC says

    Nov 30, 2014 at 2:56 am

    Where did this ‘policy’ of accommodating Muslims come from? My view is PC, a dreadful curse that originated from the USA, Basically it is a totalitarian state theory. Somebody on high tells you what you can and cannot think. Muslims should be adapting to our culture but what we have is our culture adapting to Islam. Muslims know they have us on the retreat, so they just demand more and more facilities and concessions. Like selfish kids in a toy store they can never be satisfied until they have everything, in the case of Islam Sharia law of course.
    Plus of course the law must ensure nobody can ever criticise them for this or anything else.

    • glen1946 says

      Dec 1, 2014 at 9:10 am

      I believe it started with the Maoist theory that everyone must have politically correct thinking. The reason that Muslims are able to get away with imposing their cultural values on us is due to a combination of things. The Left have debased pretty much every cultural value and achievement the West has, and at the same time they have lauded third world arts, crafts, medicines, religions etc, you name it, its sooo much better than our wasteful and exploitative ways – and they don’t harm the planet don’t cha’ know, they work in harmony with it…. Another reason is slavery. Always Slavery and only white (US) slavery, the other stuff was just ‘their way’ and don’t underestimate that its ‘reality’ exists only in drawings and paintings. Only the US White man carries the burden of slavery because it is the most recent & the only properly recorded account. We are victims of our own success, our technology captured images of America’s slaves on camera – proof of our wickedness. Muslim slavery is brushed aside as quaint and in harmony with nomadic dessert life, harems, the Sheik, Abbot and Costello. etc. Every aspect of Western life and culture came under attack post WWII by Marxists, The Frankfurt School, Alinskyites, Maoists. Muslims exploit any weakness they are clever and manipulative. They will only stop when forced to.

  20. Jack says

    Nov 30, 2014 at 7:36 am

    He misses the good ol’ days of bashing Papists.

    Every Muslim sperm is sacred

    Sorry, kids, we’ll have to sell the lot of you (girls) into sexual slavery and bomb makers (boys)

  21. glenn1946 says

    Nov 30, 2014 at 8:54 am

    I read this somewhere a few days ago: “A malignant force tends to stay in motion unless confronted by an equal or superior force”. It will not stop until it is forced to, this is the reality everyone of us has to face. Over the past 1000 years we have sent armies to suppress and repel this malignancy. The major problem now is that because of the attempts by the Left to create their one world multi cult utopia, all European nations now have 5th columns made up of the malignancy. We need a solution within the next 10-20 yrs otherwise our grandchildren will be Muslims.

  22. Kepha says

    Nov 30, 2014 at 5:10 pm

    I’m a God-bless-King-William-of-Orange Protestant. I thought Life of Brian blasphemous and Monty Python and the Holy Grail only a tad better (although actually funny in parts).

    Thank you, John Cheese. Glad you’ve told the world what the entertainment world is thinking. Next time you posture as a brave defender of freedom of expression, I stick my two thumbs in my armpits, dance around, and say, “cluck-cluck-cluck-AAAAH!” in your face. In case you don’t understand this Americanism, it means I think you’re chicken.

    AHMAD: Praise be to Allah! My Cousin Hassan just martyred himself–blew himself sky high–to wipe out some Kufr dogs!
    ISKANDER: Indeed, Alllaaaaahu-Akbar!
    (Something falls out of the sky and lands right between the two speakers).
    AHMAD: Why, it’s Hassan’s head!
    ISKANDAR: Why he’s trying to say something.
    AHMAD: Speak up, Hassan! Did you see Paradise?
    HASSAN: Indeed, I did. I have good news and bad news.
    ISKANDAR: What’s the good news?
    HASSAN: Isa al-Masih, PBUH, actually is up there, and says he has overcome the cross, and it took him only three days!
    AHMAD: And what is the bad news?
    HASSAN: He also says he actually died on it first. (EXPIRES)

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