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Raymond Ibrahim: Exposed: Decade-Old Plan to Create Islamic State—and Obama Helped

Nov 7, 2014 7:50 am By Raymond Ibrahim

obama[Via FrontPage Magazine]

Although the birth of the Islamic state and the herald of the caliphate are often regarded as some of 2014’s “big shockers,” they were foretold in striking detail and with an accurate timeline by an al-Qaeda insider nearly one decade ago.

On August 12, 2005, Spiegel Online International published an article titled “The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaeda Really Wants.”  Written by Yassin Musharbash, the article was essentially a review of a book written by Fouad Hussein, a Jordanian journalist with close access to al-Qaeda and its affiliates, including the late Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who pioneered the videotaping of beheadings “to strike terror into the hearts” of infidels (Koran 3:151).

As Hussein explained in the introduction of his book Al Zarqawi: Al Qaeda’s Second Generation: “I interviewed a whole range of al-Qaeda members with different ideologies to get an idea of how the war between the terrorists and Washington would develop in the future.”

And in fact the book details the master plan of al-Qaeda—in its “second generation” manifestation known as the “Islamic State” which follows much of Zarqawi’s modus operandi—to resurrect a caliphate.  This plan is sufficiently outlandish that Yassin Musharbash, the author of the Spiegel article reviewing Hussein’s book, repeatedly casts doubt on its feasibility.  Thus al-Qaeda’s plan is “proof both of the terrorists’ blindness as well as their brutal single-mindedness”; there is “no way” al-Qaeda can follow the plan “step by step”; “the idea that al-Qaeda could set up a caliphate in the entire Islamic world is absurd”; and the following “scenario should be judged skeptically.”

Yet it is all the more remarkable that much of this plan—especially those phases dismissed as infeasible by Musharbash (four and five)—have come to pass.

In what follows, I reproduce the seven phases of al-Qaeda’s master plan as presented in Musharbash’s nearly ten-year-old article (in bullet points and italics, bold for emphasis), with my commentary interspersed for context.  Phases four and five are of particular importance as they describe the goals for recent times, much of which have come to fruition according to plan.

An Islamic Caliphate in Seven Easy Steps

  • The First Phase Known as “the awakening”—this has already been carried out and was supposed to have lasted from 2000 to 2003, or more precisely from the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 in New York and Washington to the fall of Baghdad in 2003. The aim of the attacks of 9/11 was to provoke the US into declaring war on the Islamic world and thereby“awakening” Muslims. “The first phase was judged by the strategists and masterminds behind al-Qaeda as very successful,” writes Hussein. “The battle field was opened up and the Americans and their allies became a closer and easier target.” The terrorist network is also reported as being satisfied that its message can now be heard “everywhere.”

Much of this is accurate and makes sense.  Sadly, if any eyes were opened after the 9/11 attacks on American soil, they weren’t Western eyes—certainly not the eyes of Western leadership, mainstream media, and academia.  But to many Muslims, the strikes of 9/11 were inspiring and motivating, giving credence to Osama bin Laden’s characterization of America as a “paper tiger.” A few years after the Islamic strikes of 9/11, Americans responded by electing a man with a Muslim name and heritage for president, even as he continuously empowers in a myriad of ways—including banning knowledge of Islam—the same ideology behind the strikes of 9/11. Meanwhile, the average Muslim relearned the truths of their religion, namely that the “infidel” is an existential enemy and jihad against him is a duty, as al-Qaeda and others had successfully shown.

  • The Second Phase “Opening Eyes” is, according to Hussein’s definition, the period we are now in [writing in 2005] and should last until 2006. Hussein says the terrorists hope to make the western conspiracy aware of the “Islamic community.” Hussein believes this is a phase in which al-Qaeda wants an organization to develop into a movement. The network is banking on recruiting young men during this period. Iraq should become the center for all global operations, with an “army” set up there and bases established in other Arabic states.

This too is accurate.   Among other things, the “Islamic community,” the umma, began to be more visible and vocal during this time frame, including through a rash of attacks and riots following any perceived “insult” to Islam, growing demands for appeasement, and accusations of “Islamophobia” against all and sundry.  If there weren’t any spectacular terror attacks on the level of 9/11, young Muslim men were quietly enlisting and training in the jihad—or in western parlance, “radicalizing.”  Al-Qaeda went from being an “organization” to a “movement”—international “radicalization.”  Most importantly, Iraq, as the world now knows, certainly did become the “center for all global operations” with an “army” of jihadis set up there.

  • The Third Phase This is described as “Arising and Standing Up” and should last from 2007 to 2010. “There will be a focus on Syria,” prophesies Hussein, based on what his sources told him. The fighting cadres are supposedly already prepared and some are in Iraq. Attacks on Turkey and—even more explosive— in Israel are predicted. Al-Qaeda’s masterminds hope that attacks on Israel will help the terrorist group become a recognized organization. The author also believes that countries neighboring Iraq, such as Jordan, are also in danger.

Much of this third phase as described and transpired seems to have been an extension of phase two.  In retrospect, there certainly appears to have been a focus on Syria, even if the jihad started there one year behind schedule (2011).  And many of the jihadis were “already prepared” and “some are in Iraq.”   None of this was a surprise, of course, as U.S. intelligence always indicated that if American forces withdrew from Iraq, the jihadis would take over.

  • The Fourth Phase Between 2010 and 2013, Hussein writes that al-Qaeda will aim to bring about the collapse of the hated Arabic governments. The estimate is that “the creeping loss of the regimes’ power will lead to a steady growth in strength within al-Qaeda.” At the same time attacks will be carried out against oil suppliers and the US economy will be targeted using cyber terrorism.

This is immensely prophetic.  Recall that the timeline given (2010-2013) coincides remarkably well with the so-called “Arab Spring,” which culminated with Islamic terrorists and their allies taking over the leadership of several Arab countries formerly ruled by secularized autocrats: Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood (which plays Dr. Jekyll to al-Qaeda’s Mr. Hyde); Libya, al-Qaeda/Islamic jihadis; ongoing Syria, al-Qaeda/Islamic jihadis (or their latest manifestation, the Islamic State, al-Qaeda’s “second generation”), etc.  It should be remembered that in each of these nations—Egypt, Libya, Syria—the Obama administration played a major role in empowering the jihadis, though in the name of “democracy.”

  • The Fifth Phase This will be the point at which an Islamic state, or caliphate, can be declared. The plan is that by this time, between 2013 and 2016, Western influence in the Islamic world will be so reduced and Israel weakened so much, that resistance will not be feared. Al-Qaeda hopes that by then the Islamic state will be able to bring about a new world order.

Again, right on time: the “Islamic State” declared itself the “caliphate” in 2014, with many Muslim organizations and persons around the world pledging their allegiance, if not imitating their slaughter, with inspired “lone wolves” already beheading “infidels” in Western nations.   And if the administration helped empower jihadis during the “Arab Spring” and in the name of “democracy” in Egypt, Libya, and Syria, it helped the creation of the Islamic State by withdrawing U.S. military forces that were keeping al-Qaeda at bay in Iraq.  Recall that in 2007 George W. Bush said that “To begin withdrawing [military forces] before our commanders tell us we are ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States.  It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to Al Qaeda.  It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale.  It would mean we allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan.  It would mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” All of these predictions have proven remarkably prescient—not because Bush was a prophet but because U.S intelligence clearly understood the situation in Iraq, and briefed Obama on it just as it did Bush. Yet, in 2011, Obama declared the Iraq war a success and pulled out American troops, leaving the way wide open for the jihadi master plan of resurrecting the caliphate to unfold.

  • The Sixth Phase Hussein believes that from 2016 onwards there will a period of “total confrontation.” As soon as the caliphate has been declared the “Islamic army” it will instigate the “fight between the believers and the non-believers” which has so often been predicted by Osama bin Laden.

This needs clarification.  While many assume that the “fight between the believers and the non-believers” is between Muslims and non-Muslims, this is not always the case.  Soon after the announcement of the caliphate, the Islamic State made clear that it was in the phase of waging jihad on “apostates” and “hypocrites,” meaning all the “apostate” or “infidel” Arab leaders like Bashar al-Assad, as well as Muslim populations that are insufficiently “Islamic.”  It is for this reason that the new caliph took on the name of “Abu Bakr”—the name of the first historic caliph (632-634) whose caliphate was characterized by fighting and bringing back into the fold of Islam all those Arabs who broke away after Muhammad died.   Afterwards, when all the Arab tribes were unified under the banner of Islam, the great historic conquests, or jihads against neighboring “infidels,” took place.

  • The Seventh Phase This final stage is described as “definitive victory.” Hussein writes that in the terrorists’ eyes, because the rest of the world will be so beaten down by the “one-and-a-half billion Muslims,” the caliphate will undoubtedly succeed. This phase should be completed by 2020, although the war shouldn’t last longer than two years.

Phase seven remains to be seen, as it is has another five years to go.  As for the world being “so beaten down by the one-and-a-half billion Muslims,” actor Ben Affleck reflected this sentiment recently when he kept apologizing for Islam by saying Muslims “are a billion and a half.”   At any rate, considering that the preceding phases have all largely come to pass—with a passive West doing nothing to prevent them, that is, when not actively aiding them—there is certainly no good reason to think Western leadership will stop the final phase from occurring: a unified, aggressive, expansionist, and eventually possibly even nuclear armed caliphate preparing to terrorize its neighbors on a grand scale—just like its historic predecessor did for centuries.

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  1. rhondakelly07 says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 8:43 am

    Where are the people on this web site. I’m sending thousands . This is a great web site, and people need to see this.. God bless you

    • dan says

      Nov 7, 2014 at 5:30 pm

      another good reason to be armed.

  2. Jaladhi says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Remarkable article!! The Western leaders will pooh pooh this prediction instead of taking a serious action against the Islamic jihad whether taking place in ME or in the West!! Also, all those traitorous Muslim apologists in the West will play their part to calm down the masses who are ignorant anyways.

    • Jen says

      Nov 7, 2014 at 9:14 am

      Muslim apologists in the West will play their part to calm down the masses
      —————————————————-
      This is why I get so annoyed at apologists. They are doing damage; even the clueless ones like our friend Ben Affleck. They reaffirm what many people are probably already thinking, and when these people *might* be reaching a point where they are beginning to question their long-held beliefs, a well-known figure like Ben comes along with no nonono calm down…everything’s okay….they eat sandwiches too…just like us…

      • terry says

        Nov 7, 2014 at 9:24 am

        Jen,

        See my comment below.

  3. Lu says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 8:49 am

    Excellent summary of the eerie “fahrplan” the enemies of the West (and civilization altogether) are evidently following year by year, with somewhat surprising success. What to say more? – Perhaps this: as the time marches on and the cancer of sharia-fascism is spreading, we are all Israelis now.

    • txtumlin says

      Nov 9, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Lu – “we are all Israelis now.”

      Indeed we are!

  4. London Jim says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:01 am

    Well, as much as they might predict, and gather their trophies, imaging fulfilment of questionable articles of faith I find it believe that at the end of the day, sweet Reason Herself will not prevail, even upon her own virtues, let alone if/and or some true Master, Lord. . . One who ”was pleased by his creation”, was watching her back. Needless to say, really. Either way you look at it, the deen of muhammedanism ain?t passing the litmus test.

  5. ECAW says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:03 am

    What a fascinating article, and so convincing. We are several years behind Al-Qaeda but no longer in complete torpor. In 2005 in Britain we slept through the killing of 52 people on the London transport system but the awakening started with the death of just one man in Woolwich in 2013. Even Prince Charles appears to be stirring uncomfortably in his sleep.

    As the opposition show their hand ever more daringly both in the Middle East and in the West surely more and more people will realise that there is a war going on between the 7th century and the 21st. I say bring on the all out confrontation. Militarily, we must win since the Muslims rely completely on Western technology. What have they created since the astrolabe?

    It’s going to get worse in the West before we fully rouse ourselves but I am confident we will eventually. If Islam’s apocalyptic plans are smashed wouldn’t Islam reveive a body blow? How could it recover? Wouldn’t hundreds of millions of Muslims say “Bugger this for a game of soldiers” and join the 21st century?

    The sooner the better too, while we are still in the majority in the West. Demography and subversion are the greater cause for concern as far as I can see.

    • umbra says

      Nov 7, 2014 at 9:58 am

      Smashing islamic apocalyptic plans does not mean destroying its ultimate apocalyptic goal. After all, it is making a comeback in Europe after being kicked out centuries earlier. The nature of islam is that it always seek to subjugate the world. It will continue to do so until it succeeds.

  6. London Jim says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:08 am

    . .obviously should read ‘hard to believe’ . .

  7. mortimer says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:10 am

    Obama and Hillary had a big role in enabling the creation of ISIS…this is for sure. Both were and are criminally unacquainted with the basic doctrines of political Islam.

    Ben Affleck is a gullible, uninformed loudmouth. His ad hominems are not argument, but he doesn’t understand that. He is shielding the supremacists and misogynists from scrutiny and condemnation.

  8. terry says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:20 am

    Actually since the early eighties, when the west was concentrating all its attention on communism, the former USSR and China, I heard several ex Muslims talking about the dreams held by all Muslims in the world.

    They were exactly the same as explained above in the article of Raymond Ibrahim, albeit not with a precise time line and location sequence.

    Some confided that, always, when they tried to inform non Muslims living in North America, about all that or Islam, they were looked upon with contempt, as divisionists or simply fools!

    Actually now, thirty years later, I almost always, still, see this same attitude whenever I try to wake people up to the danger of Islam!

  9. London Jim says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:21 am

    eeks, my comment pertainf to the omission on my prior comment, not ECAW’s.

  10. Transmaster says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 9:39 am

    Remember how the Senior President Bush was carped at for “not Finishing” the first Gulf war freeing Kuwait. It turns out he was very smart by stating the job at hand and sticking to it. Clinton then let things fester, and Bush Jr bought the anti-Saddam Hussein bobby in Washington DC hook line and sinker. With all of these tails of evil Hussein, his sons, and stooges did in Iraq. We had Saddam in check but taking him out of power and then batching the job of setting up his replacement has led to what we have today. It would have been fine if the basing plan Bush had for Iraq had been set in place but the Obama just wanted out, was too stupid, and full of himself to listen to people who knew the situation, and Valerie Garnet made damn sure they didn’t get the chance to talk to him.

  11. Eric says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    Excellent article. It would seem that their plan is going along as planned. But what are we to do about it? And I found that the comments about our ‘prophet’ Bush to be absurd. Considering that if he hadn’t taken the bait (of 911) and gotten us into the war with Iraq then Obama wouldn’t have had to withdraw our troops and leave the vacuum. If we had left alone Iraq, which had nothing to do with 911 (but only annoyed Israel who wanted it taken down) then Saddam Hussein would have dealt appropriately with al-Qaeda. The same goes for the so-called Arab Spring countries which also had suitable Strong Man leaders who knew how to deal with such nonsense. It was the US and Israel who caused the power vacuums left in these countries with their smokescreen Demopcracy ideology and it will unfortunately be the US and Israel who will pay the price. We can thank our wonderful leaders for this mess even more so than al-Qaeda.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 7, 2014 at 10:08 pm

      Someone else claiming that the spread of Islam is the fault of the Jooooos. What is it about this thread?

    • Kepha says

      Nov 7, 2014 at 11:02 pm

      Sorry, Eric, but if you want to find a worldwide religion for which you can blame the Jews, look at Christianity.

  12. katarzyna says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    maybe ‘a little bit of Obamaism’? http://english.pravda.ru/photo/album/

  13. Unapologetic American says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 5:51 pm

    This article lacks the Clinton connection. The syphilitic serial predator Slick Willy Clinton, a Muslim sympathizer charged his “wife”, the notorious closeted lesbian, Hillary Rodham and her “bodywoman”, Muslim Students Association member, Huma Abedin, with finding a way to release Blind Sheik Omar Abdul Rahkman from prison and return him to Egypt to overthrow U.S. ally Hosni Mubarack. The fact is Abedin’s mother was a founding member of the violent Muslim Sisterhood and her father a leading member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

  14. Das Karl says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    AQ/ISIS is WAY ahead on their stated goals. Obama’s Great Iraqi Evacuation MUST be seen for what it is – an act of passive treason to the US, our regional allies and NATO/ANSUZ. ISIS not only has a “country,” they also managed to acquire state-of-the-art Western war toys. I have no doubt that across the Middle East, American weapons and ordnance are systematically being stolen and shipped to ISIS.
    Make NO mistake – Obama has literally set the stage for WW3.

  15. gravenimage says

    Nov 7, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    Excellent and very disturbing article from Raymond Ibrahim.

  16. Salah says

    Nov 8, 2014 at 12:50 am

    I’ve said it before: ISIS is made in and by the U.S. through the Muslim Brotherhood “advisors” sitting comfortably in the White House, under the nose of their puppets: the Obama gang…the traitors!

  17. howard mayer says

    Nov 8, 2014 at 6:46 am

    The days are darker now than ever before, but there is a reason.
    In 1916 the British and French with the help of Russia created what ISIL are fighting for today, With the SYKES PICOT agreement also known as the Asia Minor Agreement. They lied to the Arab world. T.E. Lawrence was sent to the Arab world to make an agreement to help get rid of the ottoman empire, but back in Britain and France they lied in order to restore and maintain the trade route from the east.
    As it was being disrupted by the tribes and leaders of the empire.
    After destroying the empire they created countries and put in place the own choice of leaders (dictators).
    Who were able to keep relative peace among there people, There are so many tribes with the Arabs.
    Also the Persians were causing problems with the freedom of movement in the trade route.
    The USA had nothing to do with this agreement, they were dragged into the WW1 only after one of there ships were sunk.
    Obama knows all to well what the end game is that is why he started the breakdown of the tribes.
    His speech in Egypt then Libya and so the break up of the tribal leaders role started to erode.
    Get rid of the head and the body has no direction, Obama was in on this from get-go that is why he still refers to them as ISIL, because he knows what the L represents LEVANT.
    HE HELPED USHER THIS EVENT WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE.
    That is why he is so slow to react, the Levant is greater Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Israel.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 9, 2014 at 2:28 pm

      howard mayer wrote:

      In 1916 the British and French with the help of Russia created what ISIL are fighting for today…
      …………………………….

      I’m sorry, this is rot.

      What ISIS is fighting for the conquest of land in which to impose the savagery of Shari’ah law—in other words, what pious Muslims have *always* fought for over the past almost 1400 years.

      One may well argue that foolish decisions by the West have at many times enabled Islam and its encroachment—but the idea that they created this is simply absurd.

      • Howard says

        Nov 9, 2014 at 3:12 pm

        Thank you for agreeing with the assessment of the wests meddling , be it petro$ or trade routes.
        The west sees democracy through the western eyes. Where the Moslems have seen the caliphe for 1400 years. We in the west have have allowed them to lead us to the slaughter. They have lied, stolen our land through out the world for centuries . All this time we have found ways to pander to there PC bs and we will still in the future till we get rid of those who either are in there pockets or live in fear of Muslim backlash.
        Anyway let me turn my attention to you response , what I wrote was just a incedent in the history of the Syria/Iraq levant and Obamas role in this . He is a well educated scholar in Islam.
        He understands and believes in there end game, as he said he will follow the direction of the wind, and so he is .
        Once a Jew or Christian always a Jew or Christian, the essence never leaves you mind and soul.
        He’s upbringing was in communist and Islamic culture . He never put the Islamic belief behind him if and when he converted to Christianity . He has kept a pretty much open heart and admiration for the Muslims.
        He knows the game he is playing, unfortunately you GRAVENIMAGE don’t see his game you only see the anger.
        Well it is time you wake up and make sure he has little if not, no powers to do anything .
        As he said he has his pen and phone, we know he has used his pen. How much damage has he done with his phone?
        GRAVENIMAGE don’t fight me on this one , I’m on your side.
        The world was alway a dangerous place, but since Obama it’s unpredictable and worse.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 10, 2014 at 12:10 am

          I assure you, I am *no* fan of Obama’s, and I consider him very dangerous. He is by far the worst appeaser and enabler of Islam that we have ever had in power, and I am appalled that he was elected to a second term.

          You wrote:

          Once a Jew or Christian always a Jew or Christian, the essence never leaves you mind and soul.
          He’s upbringing was in communist and Islamic culture
          …
          …………………………..

          I don’t believe in determinism, nor is it born out empirically.

          Most people, of course, remain with the creeds they were brought up in—certainly, I believe that Obama continues to be warped by Islam and Communism, as you note.

          But we have seen Western Christian and Jewish “reverts” who are every bit as savage as their born-into-Islam coreligionists.

          We have also—thankfully—seen a number of brave Muslim apostates, including Wafa Sultan, ibn Warraq, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and several posters here at Jihad Watch, who have not only left Islam behind, but who warn Infidels about the terrible threat it poses, and do so at great risk to themselves.

  18. quotha raven says

    Nov 8, 2014 at 12:26 pm

    Helas! …In your dreams, Harry!

  19. Stanford Locke says

    Nov 8, 2014 at 1:34 pm

    Fits well with speculative ‘prophecy’ of end times lining up with Revelation.
    There is a lot of fulfilled prophecy that could possibly point to the great wrath of God taking place in their 7 step time line above…interesting times we are living in!!

  20. Fred Vanley says

    Nov 8, 2014 at 8:11 pm

    Remember Obama said,” I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” from “Audacity of Hope” page 261 softcover edition

  21. Lyndon Weggery says

    Nov 9, 2014 at 3:00 am

    Like Stanford Locke I get the link with the end times account as outlined in the Bible. That amazing book of the God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob that clearly outlines how the titanic struggle between good and evil pans out. Knowing who wins (as the Book of Revelation outlines) is a great comfort and an amazing incentive to live a holy life based on the saving knowledge that God’s Son Jesus Christ has saved us from our personal sin. The same person who is coming back secretly for his “holy ones” in the Rapture and to return publicly with his “holy ones” to defeat His enemies and dispense justice from the capital City of Jerusalem.How sad the militant followers of Isalm are so misguided. They need the love of the one true God in their lives.

    • steve says

      Nov 9, 2014 at 12:36 pm

      Lyden
      Where does Joshua, (forget Jerome’s corruption Jesus,) say his coming will be secret? he says every eye shall see him coming and wail! The description of taking merely points to the separation of believers from coming destruction.
      Christ is coming for all, ” elected in eternity”, Jews and gentiles the spiritual church saved at his resurrection.
      American theologians are merely deceived by Darby and Scofield’s Zionism which deny the true spiritual nature of the church. Darby also taught that in heaven Joshua lies below the feet of Lucifer! the same hellish doctrine of free mason led Jehova witnesses and Mormons.
      best regards Steve.

  22. txtumlin says

    Nov 9, 2014 at 3:40 pm

    A most powerful article that needs exposure. Oh yeah, this needs to be linked EVERYWHERE! I’m off to Tweet this and repeat the tweet at regular intervals.

    This is a Warning!

  23. George Mikesich says

    Nov 9, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    I said from the first week of his administration that he was the worst
    President in the history of the USA! He totally disreguards our Constituion and does what ever he wants!

  24. Wolfgang says

    Nov 10, 2014 at 2:46 am

    @Jen @ Australians on JW

    Here is a link about a company in South Australia that has dropped its Halal stamp and its link to certification due to ” bullying ” from consumers, note what the misinformed and clueless company sales and marketing manager says ……

    ” “A lot of people out there are under the belief that the fee you pay to Halal Islamic Group goes towards terrorism and so forth,” he told ABC radio.

    “They’re ridiculous claims ” [ this stupid man has obviously researched this ]

    also……………….the SA trade minister says :

    ” Investment and Trade Minister Martin Hamilton-Smith said prejudice had no place in Australia and urged businesses to resist misinformed consumer bullying.

    “One of our key friends and trading partners, Indonesia, is the largest Islamic country in the world,” he said.

    “We should embrace these opportunities rather than exclude them.”

    [ another brainless Australian politician ] yes folks they ALL drink from the same Kool aid……..there must be lot’s and lot’s of it floating around, but I seem to miss out ?

    Anti-Halal bullying sparks SA govt concern
    http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/national/8927765/anti-halal-bullying-sparks-sa-govt-concern

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