My latest in PJ Media, on the ongoing train wreck that is contemporary Britain:
Last May, I wrote an article titled “The 5 Latest Signs of Britain’s Imminent Demise.” These were, unfortunately, not anomalies. In Britain these days, galloping toward ruin is a more popular sport than soccer, and so an update is in order. Here are ten of the latest indications that Britons can look forward to a society that is both more authoritarian and more dangerous than any free nation can long endure.
10. Another British Muslim killed fighting for Islamic State
It was revealed last Tuesday that a British jihadist who called himself Abu Abdullah al-Britani had been killed while fighting in Syria for the Islamic State. Al-Britani, a convert to Islam whose birth name was William Hasmou Clinic, was the eighth Muslim from Britain to be killed while fighting for the Islamic State.
Britain is not alone in this. Well over a thousand Muslims from the West have traveled to Syria and Iraq to join the Islamic State. And like their counterparts elsewhere in the West, British authorities are engaging in absolutely no reflection about why so many young people in their country are converting to Islam. Nor do these authorities seem curious about why so many of these converts come to an understanding of Islam that they themselves have branded as un-Islamic and completely contrary to the true Islamic faith.
Where did William Hasmou Clinic learn about Islam? Was he “radicalized on the Internet”? If so, why did he so readily accept what he read there and discard the peaceful, tolerant Islamic teachings that British authorities assume that he learned at his local mosque? And if he didn’t learn peaceful, tolerant teachings at his local mosque, is that mosque being monitored? Or would that be “Islamophobic” in Insane Britannia?
9. British Muslim chemistry teacher pleads guilty to attempting to join the Islamic State
Jamshed Javeed was a chemistry teacher at Sharples School in Bolton. According to the BBC, he is said,
to have become rapidly radicalised from living an ordinary Western lifestyle to becoming someone determined to fight in the Middle East, having changed his appearance and behaviour from August 2013.
Those who knew Javeed describe him as an “intelligent, well-educated family man.” British officials, however, seem determined to ignore the real reasons why people like him become “rapidly radicalised.” And the problem is much larger than most would probably like to think:
8. One in seven young “Britons” has “warm feelings” for the Islamic State
Britain’s problem isn’t limited to the young Muslims who go fight for the Islamic State. A new poll has revealed that “one in seven young British adults has ‘warm feelings’ towards Islamic State.”
These young “Britons,” if they have “warm feelings” toward the Islamic State, don’t have any allegiance to the British state, and are likely in the future to try to make Britain over to be more like the Islamic State. They may not have to work very hard at that, however —the current British government is already doing all it can to smooth their path.
7. UK government to aid jihadis returning from Islamic State if they have “good intentions”
William Hague, the Conservative leader of the House of Commons, announced that his government was ready to aid British jihadis returning from the Islamic State if they had “good intentions.” Some of the returning jihadis, Hague said compassionately, will “just need help because they will have been through an extremely traumatic period.” The full force of the British welfare state stood ready:
We haven’t had a lot of people coming back yet and saying they want to be of assistance, but if they do of course the government, the police, the National Health Service will work with those people and help them to recover and to assist others.
Hague would doubtless consider it “Islamophobic” to point out that Muhammad said, “War is deceit” (Bukhari 4.52.269). The prophet of Islam is also recorded as saying that lying was permissible “in battle” (Muslim 6303). So if deceit is permissible, according to Muhammad himself, in times of battle and war, and the Islamic State considers itself to be at war with Britain, then how will Hague and the rest determine whether or not they are being deceived by a jihadi who is only feigning “good intentions”? Since they are sure that Islam is a religion of peace and would denounce as “racist” any idea that its prophet actually sanctions deceit, they are unlikely to consider this question adequately.
6. Libyan soldier blames Brits for sex attacks by Libyan cadets in UK: “They didn’t tell us…what’s the difference between right and wrong here.”
About 300 Libyan army cadets who were training in Britain have just been sent home after allegations that they had committed multiple rapes and sexual assaults of non-Muslim girls in the neighborhoods near their barracks.
Omar Al-Mukhtar, a Libyan cadet who was not accused of involvement in these assaults, blamed British authorities: “They didn’t tell us about British law and what’s the difference between right and wrong here.”
Back home in Libya, infidel women are fair game, as per the Qur’an. According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50) – that is, infidel sex slaves. The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame” (Qur’an 23:1-6).
The British authorities should have told the Libyan cadets that in Britain, the Qur’an verses that allow for the capture and use of infidel women as sex slaves are not to be acted upon. But to have told them that would have been “bigoted.”
5. Prince Charles appeals to Muslim leaders “to ensure that people within their own tradition respect people from other faith traditions”The willful ignorance about Islamic doctrines is pandemic among British authorities. The prince of Wales on Wednesday released a video asking Muslim leaders to stop the Muslim persecution of Christians. He didn’t put it that way, of course. Rather, Charles appeared to be trying to remind Muslim leaders of what he believed to be core tenets of Islam. “It is an indescribable tragedy,” he said, “that Christianity is now under such threat in the Middle East – an area where Christians have lived for 2,000 years, and across which Islam spread in 700AD, with people of different faiths living together peaceably for centuries.”
Charles added that “religious faith is all the more convincing to those outside the faith when it is expressed with humility and compassion, giving space to others, whatever their beliefs.” He gently reminded Muslims that “faith leaders have, it seems to me, a responsibility to ensure that people within their own tradition respect people from other faith traditions.”
This plea stemmed from Charles’ willful ignorance about the faith that tells believers to be “merciful to one another but harsh to unbelievers” (Qur’an 48:29). In saying that Muslims and Christians lived in peace and harmony for centuries, he almost certainly had no idea of the oppression and depredations of dhimmitude.
In making this video, he was expecting a reaction that he won’t get — and when he doesn’t get it, he won’t even notice. The Muslim leaders with whom he is in contact will condemn the persecution of Christians, do nothing to stop it or reform the Islamic doctrines that give rise to it, and that will be that.
This willful ignorance is not limited to Charles. Everyone in power in Britain shares it.
4. New UK law would ban critics of Sharia from broadcasting, protesting or even posting messages on FacebookAnd if the Cameron government gets its way, every last person in Britain will soon share it – or else. Home Secretary Theresa May has announced new “Extremism Disruption Orders,” which would empower the British government to prevent people from broadcasting, holding public rallies, or even posting on Facebook and Twitter if they promoted “extremism.” Chancellor George Osborne emphasized that the new orders were designed to “eliminate extremism in all its forms” – including the justification of “hatred” against a particular religion.
Critics of the proposal have pointed out that this would criminalize criticism of Sharia, even in its most oppressive aspects – the stonings, amputations, and denial of equal rights to women and non-Muslims.
If this becomes law, Britain is finished as a free nation. As the law would also forbid opposition to gay marriage, it would be interesting to see what would happen if a proponent of Sharia protested against gay marriage — but Muslim groups are largely for it, since it opens the door to the legalization of polygamy.
Future free historians, if this becomes law, will look back at David Cameron and Theresa May as essentially saboteurs and traitors who administered the coup de grace to their own nation as a free society. If Britain were still a sane society, as soon as this law was suggested there would have been a no-confidence vote and the Conservative government would have fallen — followed by the arrest of Cameron and May and criminal proceedings against them.
Instead, Britain appears prepared to go quietly, although civil war still very likely looms in its future. And the criminalization of criticism of Islam is already de facto in place:…
Read the rest here.
cs says
British, read here please.
I lived in London from 95 to 00. Then I returned on 10 and have been living since then.
England was booming, it was a confident country, art was alive and provocative, we could breath the future just living there, amazing times.
Well when I was back a lot have changed, I did not know exactly what have changed, I certainly could see a lot more Muslims, and much more niqabs and hijabs, the confidence is not there any more, and in general opinions got much more conservative.
The topics discussed then were futuristic, but now people discuss sharia law. Guys this is a 7th ideology, why we are stuck on this?
Wake up Britain. We need a Winston Churchill again, we need a De Gaulle in France, real people, not cowards like now.
tama says
That’s the drat thing. In my little spot in Canada, there are places that welcome diversity and encourage fluency in south-asian languages. Black-clothed hijabs work in malls in jewellery departments, clothing stores, fast-food cooks, grocery cashiers.
Prayer group outside the occasional college early Saturday mornings.
I heard my priest’s sermon at the church I infrequently visit the Sunday after the attack on Parliament in Canada. That Islam is no more to blame than Christianity is for the (IRA or something) and that we must bridge an understanding and follow through with love, peace, and compassion. He finds fault in the attackers as being victims of drugs, isolation, and desperation. My priest grew up in London and attends the occasional wedding of friends there. We have a few refugees from Iraq who fled ‘violence’.
tama says
Oh also the yearly cultural fest at college, with one group having a dominating speaker with their culture from Turkey- videos about the haji and how Mary is so adored in their book. In those white tunics and wrapped headgear.
Kerry says
The IRA’s beef was totally political and due to the discrimination inflicted on they by the British. Islam has been discriminating against all nonMuslims since their time in Mecca.
Read some history.
Richard Anderson says
It may be too late CS, but the people in UK are finally waking up, there are even calls for the politicians (most of them) to be tried for treason. Years of open door immigration, Muslim appeasement and crazy political correctness have all but ruined the old country, many Brits think there is a very sinister reason behind all this and it is being planned, I would not bet against it!
Salah says
“It may be too late CS, but the people in UK are finally waking up, there are even calls for the politicians (most of them) to be tried for treason.”
Every PC politician, academic, elite, msm member, etc. must face trial and, if convicted of high treason, EXECUTED.
Yes, there is still hope, but this is what hope looks like:
http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/11/05/this-is-what-hope-looks-like/
RICHTHOFEN says
That sounds like a familiar demand……………….
Lea says
It is really not too late. It merely appears to be so. Muslims are minorities, and therefore we have control. There is alot of apathetic “give upness” and this is our most dangerous enemy at this point. We can and will do alot, we just have to stand united against Islam and demand that our governments legislate islam as a subversive militant political movement and strip it of its privilege as a religion, since religion is merely a small part of this “way of life”. Politics is the far greater aspect of islam, and this is where the threat lies. We then need to subdue the muslims, placing them under military control 24/7, making their lives so miserable they will want to immigrate to a muslim country.
Bill Stickers says
I have been hearing “but the people in UK are finally waking up” (to the Muslim fifth columnizers since at least 2001. Wheres the evidence? The UK seems to gradually adjusting to the long term Islam agenda. Heard Cameron lately? Where’s the evidence of “but the people in UK are finally waking up”?
dumbledoresarmy says
You said – “Where’s the evidence of “but the people in UK are finally waking up”?”
Gavin Boby and his Law and Freedom Foundation: if you don’t know who he is and what he’s doing, look him up.
Paul Weston and Liberty Great Britain: they haven’t gone away, they haven’t been shut down.
The appearance on the scene of the EDL (which has weathered the loss of Tommy Robinson and is soldiering on, evne if they’re not getting a lot of media coverage).
Another group called “March for England”.
The recent vote for UKIP.
All of this has happened in the past ten years or less.
And there’s this bloke, a young student (maybe mid-late 20s) who “woke up” to what Islam was about, when he attended a university in London.
Here’s his blog.
http://defendthemodernworld.wordpress.com/
I very much doubt that he’s the only one.
I think some sort of critical mass is beginning to happen.
Sanjulcle says
CS: if you had lived here as recently as 95 to 2000 and not realised even then that something was already really wrong with Britain you must have had your head on the sand! What has happened to us has been going on since the 1980s when political correctness started its onslaught on free speech, free will, free conscience.
Bonnie Loranger says
I understand what you felt . the same thing happened to me in belgium. I went back there in 2004 to help my sister take care of my mother and I saw insidious changes like you saw. Lots of niqab and hijab and lots of problems with the Muslims.
Kevin Rolfe says
I have children. It’s why I must fight against the destruction of the west.
Jen says
This is the right attitude. Fight for future generations as well. They don’t deserve to have this thrust upon them. Think long-term about how you *don’t* want your society to look and keep pushing to make sure this doesn’t happen. All our forefathers blood shed for nothing, only to be taken back to primitive times? No, no, no. No to Islam. No to Muslims. We won’t tolerate your ‘religion’ and leave the door open for you to attack us in future times because you can’t ‘reform’ your Muslim community. This is their job, not ours. We don’t know for certain what will happen, so to save our culture and save more of our people being raped and killed, take the more aggressive approach.
Transmaster says
Don’t think this is going unnoticed in the UK. The fastest growing political party in the UK is the UKIP, United Kingdom Independence party. Of course they are being call racist, fascists, etc by the MSM in the UK. But they are receiving a great deal of support from people throughout the UK that are sick and tired of the EU’s the migration policies the UK is forced to have because of that membership. There are little things that are have the British people up in arms. One of them are the Swans they are a hollowed part of the traditions of the UK they are sacrosanct. But not to eastern Europeans who have moved to the UK thanks to the EU. These people are snatching and eating the Swans, and stealing their eggs. There is growing discontent and the people of the UK are not going to put up with this crap much longer.
http://www.ukip.org/strip_islamic_state_jihadists_of_british_citizenship
TotallyPeeved says
Yes! Grab your sporks and cricket bats and fight back.
katarzyna says
yep blame the migrants from eastern europe for your/british problems with jihadists. this is a tactic of trans-slave.
Tommo says
Migrants from Eastern Europe arrive in Britain at the rate of 40,000 per year. This estimate doesn’t include Roma gypsies who arrive here under the same euro rules but who head straight for the benefit office and carryout petty crime on our streets relentlessly. So Katarzuna my question to you is how many Eastern Europeans are we expected to absorb into our country and would you be happy if 1 or 2 million Brits arrived on your doorstep?
katarzyna says
Tommo – it is not for me to answer how many. you should know better. british expert(prof. Christian Dustmann) made a prediction a decade ago. and the gov. of UK acted on it.
the EU law is clear – freedom of movement is a fundamental principle so you cannot limit the number of migrants from EU(but you can deport those who are not able to find work and do not have money to support themselves). your benefit system is another issue and the system has been abused by many Brits and some(not many) Poles.
i do not have to worry about 1 or 2 mln Britons coming to Poland. i worry about students from Ukraine, who praise Bandera. they get money from polish gov. it is a shame to support fascists.
and EU is giving money to neo-fascists gov. of Ukraine.
You are very welcome in Poland. I do invite you to visit Poland. who konws maybe you would not like to leave our OK country. Regards
KrazyKafir says
The more the traitorous British elites suppress the indigenous people, the more horrific the inevitable and inescapable civil war will be.
Change Watch says
With children being raped throughout the UK on a Bosnian war level it feels like the war is already here. Read A Consequence of Apathy by NR Baldwin. This brave author looks at Britain’s future if we don’t get a grip.
http://www.amazon.com/Consequence-Apathy-NR-Baldwin/dp/150043390X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1415673919&sr=1-1&keywords=a+consequence+of+apathy
Wellington says
Last night, I watched question time in the House of Commons on C-Span. Prime Minister Cameron was engaging, witty and informed on sundry issues that were posed to him by fellow Tories as well as by members of the other parties. He was quite polished actually, but all the while as he responded to query after query I could not help but think that the road to Hell is not only paved with good intentions but it is also paved often times by sophistication, suavity and more than enough education when these attributes are not accompanied by proper knowledge and common sense. After all, Neville Chamberlain was sophisticated, suave and well educated (which included attending Rugby), now wasn’t he?
Boston Tea Party says
I don’t know, Wellington. I cut Chamberlain more slack than the current crop of enablers, dupes and traitors. At least with Chamberlain, they were only 20 years off from the horrors of WWI, the full extent of 20th century totalitarian movements wasn’t fully understood—and after war with the Nazis began, Chamberlain worked hard in the war effort. He may have been naive and made catastrophic mistakes in regards to Hitler, but at least he was a patriot. And he never opened the gates and invited millions of Nazis to come and live in Britain in the 1930s. I see the current crop as much more despicable than Chamberlain.
gravenimage says
I can forgive Chamberlain his naïvité, but not his “sophisticated” cynicism. I can see his underestimating the savagery of Hitler, but his throwing Czechoslovakia to the wolves in exchange for “peace” is still quite unforgivable.
Boston Tea Party says
Don’t get me wrong—I’m not starting a Chamberlain fan club. But my point is that AT LEAST Chamberlain’s primary motivation was to protect and serve the native British population. The same can’t be said of the current crop.
gravenimage says
True, Boston Tea Party.
TNT says
My heart go out to the British people. Even the prince is obtuse on both Islam n the history of its slaughter? , I find it incredible that he chooses to ignore the harsh earned lessons in history! Where’s Churchill? Britain needs the man back!
Arthur says
People seem to wonder why the second generation of UK Muslims are so quick to become more literal about their faith. I wonder if they are just realizing, after graduating from college and getting full time jobs, that a lifetime of hard work will be necessary to provide for their family (and with a good deal of uncertainty even then). I can see how they may find appealing the concept of a state where slavery, war spoils, and additional (not necessarily willing) sex partners can fill their material wants. Maybe they seek to get in on the ‘ground floor’ first so they can ride a wave of prosperity.
Don’t take it as excusing their behavior in any way.
One might even extend this notion that, in Islam, it appears easier to get to paradise by blowing yourself up than by putting in a lifetime of dedication to prayer and charity. It seems an ideology with a special appeal to impatient violent individuals who don’t find earning a living appealing.
But, like a Geico advertisement, you’ll probably all point out that “Everybody knows that.”
Morgan H says
One problem with islam (and, yeah, there are quite a few!) is that allah is such a fickle fellow – a life of prayer, fasting and following all the stupid rules and rituals does *not* guarantee entrance to paradise. The big boy might still give you the dreaded thumbs down, when all is said and done. That’s one reason all muslims have a continual, underlying insecurity, I suspect – they’re told that this world is unimportant (so they often make little effort to “enjoy” it or find fulfillment in their time here) but they can’t be sure that they won’t burn eternally in hell in the next one (especially if you’re female, the odds are against you).
The only way they can be certain of paradise, according to their enlightened ideology, is to die in jihad against the infidel.
(so what happens when they run out of infidels, I sometimes wonder? Oh right, that’s when the “peace of islam” starts. Yeah, sure.)
duh_swami says
No peace for you kuffar…Paradise is such a great place jihadists are just dying to get in there…If there were no one left to fight and kill, the door to the chamber of virgins would slam shut.
Islamic peace has its downside. In order to keep the door open, perpetual warfare is required.
gravenimage says
Arthur wrote:
People seem to wonder why the second generation of UK Muslims are so quick to become more literal about their faith. I wonder if they are just realizing, after graduating from college and getting full time jobs, that a lifetime of hard work will be necessary to provide for their family (and with a good deal of uncertainty even then). I can see how they may find appealing the concept of a state where slavery, war spoils, and additional (not necessarily willing) sex partners can fill their material wants. Maybe they seek to get in on the ‘ground floor’ first so they can ride a wave of prosperity.
Don’t take it as excusing their behavior in any way.
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I certainly hope not.
The fact is that no civilized Infidel would *ever* feel like this. Most college graduates are eager and excited to begin their careers—they don’t dream about being honchos in a slave state.
Sure—they may have a moment or two if they find they are still working at the same yogurt shop where they held summer jobs three months after graduation while they are sending out resumes, and wish they had a legacy internship like their best buddy Jason—but this is a *far* cry from wanting to pillage Infidels in the Islamic State.
This has to do with Islam, not some Western post-graduate doldrums.
wildflower says
And the equally painful truth Robert, is that America has the EXACT SAME TEN RUINOUS POLICIES.
PJG says
Don’t laugh. What good are firearms against the slow jihad of immigration, lawsuits, mosque-building and school textbook alterations…and stupidity?
At what stage do you fire the first shot? Maybe they will never come out firing; maybe they don’t need to; maybe you will wake up one day and see that the work has been done and it is too late.
We need cool-headed strategies more than we need guns. Not that I’m suggesting you throw them away…
pumbar says
I wonder how many of your muslims own guns? I bet they are way better armed than the muslims in the UK.
Darren says
They already are, just like they let globalists and monied interests take over the country by buying up both parties. Americans are simply slaves with guns. We are no different in that regard to our European counterparts. Actually to give them some credit they are more likely to have a violent thrown down with the gestapo state than we are. The west shares the glaring weakness of having no defense against stealth jihad.
KiwiKaffir says
Maybe it’s too late for the UK. Even if the average man stood up to what is happening the government will knock him down. Islam can walk to victory blindfolded
Wellington says
The United States Marine Corps was founded in 1775 and not, as you stated, during the war with the Barbary Pirates when Thomas Jefferson was President. You got the 239th number correct but incorrectly reckoned it with events coming some twenty-five to thirty years after the Corps’ founding.
Also, you mentioned you have been banned from Pamela Geller’s website. Since she is, to put it mildly, a prominent leader of the anti-jihad cause in America, could you provide the specifics respecting why you were banned? What did you write about the UK that caused the ban? Curious.
Wellington says
Yes, you are correct about the Marines being disbanded in 1783 and then reformed in 1798, but go back to your own statement where you proffered the 239th anniversary figure, which would take you back to, you guessed it, 1775. Also, the off-and-on war with the Barbary Pirates occured from 1801-1805 and therefore your contention in your 7:45 P.M. post that the Marine Corps was “founded during the war with the Barbary Pirates” is simply wrong and contradicts your own statment in your 10:26 P.M. post that the Marines were founded (refounded) in 1798.
Quite sloppy of you. Got it?
Tallulah says
Britain is sure in a terrible pickle. A terrible pickle is what you get when you put something above seeking the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
I have a question about the Libyan soldiers raping girls in Britain.
As I understand it, the permission to take sex slaves in Islam is when Muslims are at war and have taken captives in war, or when they are ruling over non-Muslims and the non-Muslims break their dhimmi contract.
But these Libyan soldiers were not in Britain as conquerors, but at the behest and under the direction of the British government. Why would these soldiers believe that the rules that apply to conquest apply when they are guests in a foreign country?
I don’t know what the circumstances were of these rapes, whether the girls were willing but underage and hence it was statutory rape, or whether these were cases of forced rape. In the case of statutory rape, I can see where Muslims from Africa would be fuzzy on how we roll on this. Our girls dress, to them, like whores and sex is much freer here than in their countries. We draw the lines differently from them, and I can see where they might assume that if a youngster is willing, with all this sexual freedom in the West, it must be acceptable. A dumb assumption, as one should never assume about something so important. But given the vast difference in culture, they *should have been informed*.
If it was political correctness that got in the way of informing these soldiers on arrival of Britain’s laws regarding coercive sex and sex with minors, then a large portion of the fault does lie with the PC refusal to face the cultural differences on sex and to address them.
I’m not at all *sure* that the problem with this one has to do with the Islamic acceptance of enslaving unbelieving captives of war for sex. It doesn’t make sense in the context of being guests in an Infidel country for the purpose of military training. The soldiers have got to know that the laws in an Infidel country are not going to say it’s okay for Muslims to sexually enslave Infidels. But they might not know that it’s not legal for an adult to have sex with, say, thirteen-year-old girls who willingly go along.
Islamisdeath says
One of the rape victims was a man who was assaulted in a park. Guess the Brits should have told them raping men in parks was wrong.
butterfly says
Some posts, by some posters, make me angry.
Champ says
islam makes me angry …
Jen says
A dumb assumption, as one should never assume about something so important. But given the vast difference in culture, they *should have been informed*.
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Unbelievable.
When you set foot in another country it is *your* job to learn the ways of the land. The country accommodates you and you take it upon yourself to do this. They were dogs and that’s why they behaved like dogs. They couldn’t have picked visibly older women? They had no intention of obeying the laws of the land and this is why they used this line as an excuse.
Do not make excuses for these animals. Not even a little bit.
Jen says
Being from another culture does not absolve you of any responsibility for your bad actions. Ignorance is not an excuse, even if it was ignorance. If you intentionally choose not to seek out the information as a responsible adult, then the fault lies with you.
Jayell says
Hello Talullah. May I quote you?….”As I understand it, the permission to take sex slaves in Islam is when Muslims are at war and have taken captives in war, or when they are ruling over non-Muslims and the non-Muslims break their dhimmi contract….” A little bit of anecdotal history. When our Friends of the Moon God first arrived in small numbers in the UK they were at first virtually invisible or at least innocuous. Initially they seemed to at least try to comply with local customs and standards and appeared to almost ‘fit in’ (largely because they were numerically not very apparent). Then their numbers grew and one became aware of a subtle ongoing shift of perception as they seemed to present themselves increasingly not so much as ‘curious and apparently respectful, compliant new citizens’ to rather more like ill-disciplined, malevolent members of an occupying army who would hang around in packs in public areas that they had commandeered for themselves or were slowly infiltrating, and becoming increasingly disrespectful of the ‘locals’ and all that their sensibilities. Symptomatic of this were tell-tale signs such as an increasing rejection the traditional UK dress-code and standards of public behaviour and reversion to their native practices; and not to mention insulting behaviour towards ‘indigenous’ persons ranging from a general lack of politeness and consideration (including the undisguised leering at young English females, considered a gross invasion of privacy and appalling manners in polite UK circles) to outright criminality. Subsequent experience of the behaviour,attitudes and actions of this sector of the current population has sadly proved the ‘invading army’ perception of these people to be justifiable; e.g., their proclaimed seditious annexation of and illegal demand to control whole urban areas as ‘muslim areas’ (e.g., in Tower Hamlets); their blatant attempts to usurp control of the State education system in ‘their’ areas (e.g., in Birmingham); their blatant disregard of the UK democratic process and the open insult to the democratic rights of the host population that this represents (e.g., again in Tower Hamlets and in the attempted murder of an east London MP, to name just two instances); their callous and criminal disregard for the rights and safety of their ‘fellow citizens’ (sic) (e.g., the 2007 London bombings, the East London firework rocket attacks and all the attempted atrocities that have been mercifully thwarted by the police security services); and their malicious disregard for the rights and sensibilities of their hosts (e.g., the attacks on Rememberance Day Poppy sellers and bid to disrupt sensitive public ceremonies; the attacks on churches and East London clergy; and the worst cases being their infamous paedophile gangs whose repulsive activities nationally have wrecked the lives of possibly thousands of young British females). This all seems to add up to an ongoing mass insurrection scenario on the part of or at least in the name of the UK Muslim community. Which all seems to fit in with the behaviour of these Libyan cadets and many of their co-religionists in the UK. And, by the way, we in the UK know jolly well what’s going on.
Darren says
It is the behavior of colonizers. It reminds me of the show Vikings.
gravenimage says
Tallulah wrote:
I have a question about the Libyan soldiers raping girls in Britain.
As I understand it, the permission to take sex slaves in Islam is when Muslims are at war and have taken captives in war, or when they are ruling over non-Muslims and the non-Muslims break their dhimmi contract.
But these Libyan soldiers were not in Britain as conquerors, but at the behest and under the direction of the British government. Why would these soldiers believe that the rules that apply to conquest apply when they are guests in a foreign country?
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I’m not sure you understand the depths of Islamic ugliness, Tallulah.
Muslims don’t believe that any Infidel should *ever* have authority over them—and this includes their being asked to Britain and given training (which is insane on many different levels).
More:
I don’t know what the circumstances were of these rapes, whether the girls were willing but underage and hence it was statutory rape, or whether these were cases of forced rape. In the case of statutory rape, I can see where Muslims from Africa would be fuzzy on how we roll on this. Our girls dress, to them, like whores and sex is much freer here than in their countries. We draw the lines differently from them, and I can see where they might assume that if a youngster is willing, with all this sexual freedom in the West, it must be acceptable.
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Intentional or not, this is more blaming of the victims.
But this *was not* just a case of Muslims inappropriately chatting up 16-year-olds—the cases involved outright assaults of women, girls, and, in at least one case, of a man.
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I’m not at all *sure* that the problem with this one has to do with the Islamic acceptance of enslaving unbelieving captives of war for sex.
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Infidel women are *always* regarded as fair game.
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It doesn’t make sense in the context of being guests in an Infidel country for the purpose of military training.
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Why not? Muslims don’t regard this the same way civilized people would. They were just angry that their being caught meant an end of their training and ability to enjoy being in Dar-al-Harb. It’s not as though they had any respect for their Infidel hosts, nor do they regard them in that manner.
They’re just angry at the filthy Kuffar for not completely rolling over for their savagery and supremacy.
Lu says
All this just again and clearly shows how incompatible their “culture” is with ours and how unacceptable the policy of multiculturalism (better say – cultural stupidity) is.
Btw -do you think they feel as guests in an infidel country? – I would rather see them as soldiers of Allah in Dar-Al-Harb; if that’s the case their behavior is very logical and even expected …
zulu says
11 signs…
Let primary teachers wear the veil in the classroom, says former Archbishop of Canterbury
Rowan Williams says there is no reason to ‘panic’ over the use of the niqab
He adds there is a ‘cultural obstacle to overcome’ but anxiety is ‘misplaced’
Last year, Home Office minster Jeremy Browne called for a national discussion use in settings such as schools
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2829329/Let-primary-teachers-wear-veil-classroom-says-former-Archbishop-Canterbury.html#ixzz3IivMcQuD
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ApolloSpeaks says
AL BAGHDADI LIKE MOHAMMED HAS UNLIMITED AMBITIONS AND AIMS
and wants to expand the Islamic State into a great world power and bring back the glory days of Islam. Great Britain’s days as a world power are over and offers nothing to young romantic Moslems seeking adventure, conquest, glory-a great purpose. The enthralling al-Baghdadi and his thrilling Islamic caliphate are filling the moral vacuum in many empty souls East and West.
http://www.apollospeaks.com
Salah says
Al Baghdadi is dead.
Davegreybeard says
Well harry, with Putin, WWIII is certainly a possibility as Vlad does like to “push the envelope.”
But if you’re gonna have a war, you gotta have an opponent.
Do you foresee Barrack “growing a pair” in the near future?
If not, Vlad owns the field and pisses where he damn well pleases.
gravenimage says
ApolloSpeaks wrote:
Great Britain’s days as a world power are over and offers nothing to young romantic Moslems seeking adventure, conquest, glory-a great purpose.
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With all respect, ApolloSpeaks, the idea that the sanguinary horror of the Islamic State represents a “great purpose” is something that only a Mohammedan would find compelling.
The fact is that there is *nothing* glorious or romantic about the savagery of the Islamic State.
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The enthralling al-Baghdadi and his thrilling Islamic caliphate are filling the moral vacuum in many empty souls East and West.
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Whatever the shortcomings and moral vacuity one might find in aspects of the modern West, the idea that mass rape, slavery, stoning women to death, and beheading journalists and aid workers fills a moral vacuum is grotesque.
Except for a handful of barbarous “reverts”, many with violent criminal records, this vision of bloody horror does not appeal to anyone not already steeped in the violence and supremacy of Islam.
It is not Infidels who are flocking to the bloody Islamic State.
ApolloSpeaks says
gravenimage wrote:
“With all respect, ApolloSpeaks, the idea that the sanguinary horror of the Islamic State represents a “great purpose” is something that only a Mohammedan would find compelling.
The fact is that there is *nothing* glorious or romantic about the savagery of the Islamic State.”
We are on the same page. When the savage glory that was once Islam is drummed into your head from the cradle with the prophetic promise that Islam owns the future and will inevitably rise again and conquer the world one can understand ISIS’ appeal to many young Moslems looking for a meaningful, purposeful life.
gravenimage says
Agreed, ApolloSpeaks.
ApolloSpeaks says
Al-Baghdadi is delusional. But he is capturing the imaginations of thousands of young, empty, mush-headed Moslems who want to be deluded with visions of imperial Islamic restoration.
As for Putin, you are right. Since early 2009 I’ve been sounding the alarm about the coming catastrophic confrontation between the US and neo-Imperial Russia. Go to my website. What I’ve written on this subject will amaze you.
http://www.apollospeaks.com
http://www.apollospeaks.com
The point of my post is the the delusional Baghdadi capturing the imaginations
mortimer says
Robert,
HRH is not naïve about Islam; he’s clearly exercising a diplomatic restraint in his choice of words to make friends and influence people. The Royals in Islamic countries will appreciate the tactful approach. This will motivate them to give a little and help save lives.
mortimer says
I doubt the British will take any tampering with the freedom of expression. I think they will balk and fight it tooth and nail.
Davegreybeard says
“I doubt the British will take any tampering with the freedom of expression. I think they will balk and fight it tooth and nail.”
I thought they had pretty much given up on the whole “freedom of expression” thing already.
“Hate speech” laws, arresting a British citizen for quoting Winston Churchill, all without public outrage.
If that is not abject surrender of the freedom of speech, then what pitiful remnant remains?
Jax Tolmen says
I would like to think, possibly foolishly, that the people of my home country are made of sterner stuff. Despite the years of “white guilt” and shameful appeasement, there may still be hope for the old Empire and it’s future.
The problem is that none of us can know for sure what the future will hold, but if the natives are cut from the same cloth as I – there is only so far they will be pushed before fighting back.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Robert,
HRH is not naïve about Islam; he’s clearly exercising a diplomatic restraint in his choice of words to make friends and influence people. The Royals in Islamic countries will appreciate the tactful approach. This will motivate them to give a little and help save lives.
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With all respect, Mortimer, this cringing appeasement is unlikely to motivate Muslim “royals” to “give a little” and spare any Infidels—instead, it will just embolden their supremacy as it does all Muslims.
Far from “saving lives”, the Saudi royals are busy funding Jihad and Da’wa—including the horror of 9/11—and they are often doing so on our dime.
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I doubt the British will take any tampering with the freedom of expression. I think they will balk and fight it tooth and nail.
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They have *already* taken tampering with their freedom of expression—including the banning of good and peaceful Anti-Jihadists like Robert Spencer and the arrest of people who dare to quote Winston Churchill.
There are, no doubt, many Britons who are profoundly disturbed by this—including many who comment here.
But this is already far along, and only a handful of Brits seem seriously concerned, or even to notice.
I pray this will change—but this is where we are right now.
Tom says
Do you really think there will be a civil war?
I reckon that the British will simply roll over and die.
They are not the same people they were in 1850, when the country was at its peak.
There will be no civil war just a slow surrender. Instead of fighting they will flee in droves leaving the country to Islam.
gerard says
Caption for photo:
Theresimah Mayali: “Look, Davidabu! More of our friends are joining IS.”
Davidabu Al Kamerani: “Yes, Theresimah! We’d better double Muslim immigration to make up for this leakage, otherwise the Islamisation of UK is going to take forever!”
gerard says
Al Kamerani: “btw Mayali, you’re showing far too much hair!”
Mayali: “Sorry, Abu! I forgot my Hijab again! But I did remember my flu jab!”
Al Kamerani: “Hmm!”
sidney penny says
Robert Spencer : 11 New Signs of Britain’s Impending Demise.
11.Rowan Williams,former Archbishop of Canterbury says,let Muslim primary school teachers wear full-face veil in class.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11221033/Let-Muslim-primary-school-teachers-wear-full-face-veil-in-class-Rowan-Williams.html
Let Muslim primary school teachers wear full-face veil in class
Rowan Williams-Former Archbishop of Canterbury says ‘panic’ about the niqab is ‘largely misplaced’ even if young children cannot see their teacher’s face.
gerard says
“just need help because they will have been through an extremely traumatic period”.
Oh, poor things! All that raping and beheading does take it out of one!
Michael Copeland says
“Islam is a religion observed peacefully ……by over a billion people.”
David Cameron
Peacefully ?
Not in Pakistan, Kashmir, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Turkey, Cyprus, Malaysia, Nigeria, Darfur, Sudan, Somalia, The Philippines, Iran, Iraq, Gaza, Chechnya, Algeria, Yemen, and so on and so on, burning Christians, killing Buddhists, Hindus and ex-Muslims, beheading priests, stoning adulterers, killing daughters, flogging lovers, chopping off hands, mutilating girls and forcing them into marriage, shooting schoolgirls for being unveiled, slitting captives` throats, raping kuffar women, abducting kuffar girls, taking slaves, plundering kuffar property, soldiers firing upon monks in their monastery, the burning of churches, temples, schools and houses, and so on, and all in compliance with Islamic texts
(see http://www.TheReligionOfPeace.com).
Not peacefully.
Islam is observed by over a billion people. Yes.
Islam has the very unpeaceful DEATH PENALTY for anyone who ceases to be a muslim. This helps secure observance.
Jaladhi says
Yes, indeed!! Islam has never been peaceful, is not peaceful and will never ever be peaceful!! That reservoir of “peaceful” Muslim supplies the so called terrorist Muslims!! So much for over a billion Muslims observing Islam peacefully!!
Kasey says
The only law they need is a total ban on every aspect of sharia.
Jaladhi says
The law needed is a total ban on Muslim immigration and everything Islamic that they bring including sharia!!
Gamaliel says
The extremism disruption orders may stem partly from a desire to stop Islamic preachers from radicalizing the populace.. They may be getting Muslim support by saying that the new orders were designed to “eliminate extremism in all its forms” – including the justification of “hatred” against a particular religion. They probably think that the criticism inflames the Muslims and should be stopped as well.
The criticism should be allowed, Muslim incitement against the infidel should not be allowed.
Tommo says
It’s a mistake to write us off. The British are formidable when they have to fight but for the moment we are building our case day by day and watching and waiting for when the Islamic conspiracy oversteps the mark. So far Muslims, even with the support of their aiders and abetters appear stupid, petty, arrogant and ignorant of British doggedness and bloody mindedness when confronted with people who make no secret of the fact that they want to take over their country. This Armistice Day there has been a marked increase in nationalism which is partly due to Islamic aggression at home and the attempted terrorist attack on the Queen. There has also been intense appreciation for the fallen in two world wars. These sentiments are not shared by Muslims which further separates them from the rest of us and fuels the growing distrust for them and their cult. There is also an overwhelming regard for the armed forces and the Queen that I’ve not seen at anytime post WW2. Five million people have visited the poppy fields of remembrance for WW1 soldiers that surround the Tower of London and this is echoed around the country by huge turnouts everywhere to attend memorial services. So not all the leftists, Marxists, anti-war bigots, useful idiots and pro-Islamic supporters made the slightest difference but in fact produced a backlash so large to show anyone watching that we are still here and in control.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/07/world/europe/tower-of-london-poppies/index.html
Lu says
I wish you were right. Watching Britain’s demise day by day is rather vindicating the skeptical voices, viz. that the country of Churchill is slipping into a full submission.
duh_swami says
What the UK (and the US) need to do first is to get rid of Islamo-enabler politicians and appointee’s. They are the enemy behind the enemy. If the UK does not already have a Cameron wrench, someone needs to invent one.
Burt says
Poor old Britain is finished. Although I am British I can only agree with Mr Spencer’s analysis. The problem boils down to a society devoid of values and any remaining values that exist are built on sand.
This degenerate society is still enduring the result of Henry VIII’s insanity.
Still enduring satanic mills, gin lane, Dickensian misanthropy and mistreatment of generations enslaved as factory fodder. The bravest among us were wiped out and have not contributed their genes because of two world wars but even so those who made it were the inheritors of our quirky history.
And now regardless of ‘class’ (the class system still remains albeit in a degenerate condition) Brits are typically mindless, trivial and frivolous and very reluctant to engage in (in fact more or less incapable of) serious logical thinking.
There are some who allow themselves to face the problem we have with an enemy living within. Even then it comes down to a brutish reaction and is marred by the yob culture endemic on this side of the pond.
British nationalism, still based on sand, attracting those abandoned by the middle class (with a very few notable exceptions) are rather a pitiful sight inarticulately chanting in a thuggish way “EeeDeeElll….EeeDeeeEllll”
Meanwhile the political class and the media hasten the nations demise because they are absolutely without values whatsoever, completely moulded by the relativistic framework inherited from the so called ‘enlightenment’.
An indicator that shows the difference here to USA is that to the credit of America abortion is at least an election issue, here the destruction of the child in the womb barely registers. (Having said that the most pro abortion president ever has been elected twice so USA is not so different, and USA has abortion up the birth in some states I believe.)
I do not hold much hope for these shores, I hope I can be proved wrong.
Burt says
correction – abortion up TO birth
Alissa says
Hey Burt
rather a pitiful sight inarticulately chanting in a thuggish way “EeeDeeElll….EeeDeeeEllll”
At least they get their asses off the couch and actually do something about it. They put themselves out there in public for all to see.
Burt says
I can’t argue with you on that Alissa. I just wish there was less yobbishness on display to the public when they go about it.
larry says
Britain is toast… its over, they’re dead, they just don’t seem to realize it yet… best use of time is to find a hole big enough to bury it in before it stinks up the whole damn planet… britian’s islamic apologist and protagonists may be in a minority, but the spineless carry the day for them… women and gays being attacked on a daily basis, but here in the US its the bastion of women and gays who are the loudest advocates of the liberal / fascist party who is truly waging a war on women by refusing to defend their very existence against the attacks from Islamic perverts… we have not yet turned the corner of hopelessness in this country, at least not yet, which is not to say there are not those standing shoulder to shoulder with obama in his endeavor to forfeit our sovereignty, our freedom… if the perversion of islam is to be stopped, it will not be because of any effort on the part of our feckless government…
tpellow says
Of course, Robert’s ’10 new signs’ are but some of the latest indicators of the rapidly Islamizing British society.
The whole process is enabled, and speeded up by the British political class’s unrelenting propaganda for ‘diversity’ and ‘multiculturalism’, which are combined with an ignorance of the tenets and history of Islam.
Of course, the actions of the British government against anyone who criticizes Islam, such as the continuing ban on the entry of Islamic jihad critics, Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, politically fits with the campaign of Islamic interests to ban free speech.
tpellow says
“Islamist plans right on track, and the West is helping.
If any eyes were opened after the 9/11 attacks, they weren’t Western eyes — certainly not the eyes of Western leadership, mainstream media, and academia.
Islamists believe they’re right on track. They could be right.”
By Raymond Ibrahim.
(Nov 7)
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5337/islamist_plans_right_on_track_and_the_west_is_helping
Tony Long says
You’re from Exeter, then? Or a member of the Lynch family? Staying faithful has been around longer than dumb grunts, mate.
Otherwise, not a bad post.
gravenimage says
4. New UK law would ban critics of Sharia from broadcasting, protesting or even posting messages on Facebook
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This is, of course, the most dangerous factor of all—that dhimmi British authorities are attempting to prevent Britons from even speaking openly about the threat of Jihad.
Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller have been banned from even entering Britain, and Britons have been arrested for quoting Winston Churchill.
I *know* that Britons have a brave heritage of standing up to tyranny and evil—they need to reclaim that heritage now.
Mo says
This breaks my heart. I am watching a country with such a majestic history and legacy die before my very eyes.
Brits, stand up! Don’t let it happen! You can still turn things around!
I also admit I am very selfish and would love to visit there someday. Please, let there be something of your culture and history left to see!
rabrooks says
I don’t know much about britton, but will they have the same protections for Christianity?