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UK: London police afraid to patrol alone because of jihad threat

Nov 25, 2014 11:59 am By Robert Spencer

LondonpoliceAnother symptom of Britain’s steep and precipitous decline into the chaos that is almost certain to come due to the feckless appeasement policies that British authorities relentlessly pursue.

“Frontline police say ‘let us patrol in pairs’ due to rising risk of street attack by jihadis,” by Martin Beckford, Daily Mail, November 22, 2014 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Police are demanding to be allowed to patrol in pairs because they fear fanatics are planning to murder an officer on the street – in a horrific echo of the killing of soldier Lee Rigby last year.

Frontline officers in London feel increasingly at risk as they take to the streets by themselves in cars or on the beat because of the danger of a jihadi attack. Some also want the right to carry protective equipment such as CS spray and batons when they go off-duty, over concerns they could be targeted as they leave stations at night.

Senior figures in the Police Federation have met counter-terror chiefs to voice their members’ fears after alleged terrorists were accused of plotting to shoot officers after carrying out surveillance of their station.

But chiefs have refused requests to increase protection and are calling on officers to be more vigilant in the face of higher risk levels.

In a further sign of the heightened security situation in Britain, the first ‘counter-terrorism awareness week’ will be launched tomorrow with more police on duty at shopping centres and airports as well as providing advice on how the public can spot potential radicals.

Former Scotland Yard detective Chris Hobbs told The Mail on Sunday last night: ‘Frontline police officers in London are fearful they could become victims of savage targeted attacks on the streets of the capital by fanatical Islamist jihadists. Officers are concerned that other than receiving “stay vigilant” advice they are not being kept fully informed of events in relation to the very real threats to their own safety or being afforded additional protection.’

It was standard practice for police to go on the beat in pairs but in recent years chiefs have changed to single crewing as budget cuts have led to the loss of 15,000 jobs since the last Election….

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  1. Darren says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Ever since the new format I am unable to go to a previous page with articles. Do I need to register with jihadwatch to do so? I wanted to go to a previous page but I no longer see the option.

    • Salah says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 12:27 pm

      It’s the same problem for all of us. Let’s hope it will be soon fixed.

      • Darren says

        Nov 25, 2014 at 1:40 pm

        Thanks for the reply, I was having a conversation with Marc the I.T guru around here and wanted to see if he responded.

    • pumbar says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 11:22 pm

      When you open a new link just open it in a new tab. When you have finished viewing the page close the tab and you’ll be back at the main page again.

  2. Zebo says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 12:25 pm

    If you ate not able to judge dangers accurattly,if you ignore or undersetimate them constantly than you are a psychopath,
    if you judge islam accuratly than you are an islamophob.

    That’s the the dilemma for western people,because they were conditioned that they only could choose between those two things.

    My advise:it is much better to be an islamophob than a psychopath.
    And if you read the quran and the hadith(and see all the violence) without becoming “islamophob” than either you are an idiot,a muslim or a pervert psychopath.

    • Darren says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 1:50 pm

      Honestly I don’t think it’s being a psychopath, it has more to do with the majority of people preferring to deny an uncomfortable truth and reality. We do it all the time lie to ourselves for whatever the reason, usually because the truth makes us feel uncomfortable. I’m the opposite, I like to know the truth and prefer people be direct with me, no matter how it makes me feel. I’d rather someone call me an a*hole to my face or try to take my life openly than plot scheme, lie and manuever. The majority of people are not like this, and most prefer to live in a dream world and the only time they wake up from that dream is when they are forced to.

      I use the street as an example many times in my writings because to me it’s a microcosm of the wider world around us. Though I do find it amazing how people from the street find themselves so easily lead, lied to and manipulated by those in power, you think having to see through lie, BS, and ulterior motives and having to spot traps and ambushes they could see through the B.S. You look at what they do not what they say. Sorry I’m going off on a different subject, but it’s closely related. I hate to use the most cliched scenario ever, but the blue pill red pill analogy still is a great one. Most people prefer eating that steak and taking the blue pill, it’s human nature sadly, most people prefer never to wake up from that dream. Also most people view issues with emotion not cold logic and reason. Politicians and ideoloagues play upon the emotions of the crowd to manipulate and direct them for a specific purpose, usually to benefit them. People by and large are herd animals that follow the herd. The only time the majority of the herd will actually act is when the predator is chasing them, and often times it is too late by then.

      • Darren says

        Nov 25, 2014 at 1:57 pm

        As someone who was forced to deal with predatory animals often and who was sometimes the target of the hunt I can see the signs. The predators are circling and positioning themselves. I’d rather take action now while we have the advantage, there is a reason I was never a victim, I was able to suppress all emotion and feeling and coldly judge a situation putting any preconceived notions at the door, and calmly analyze my enemy or enemies and find and spot weaknesses I could use and exploit. I was not a predator, but nor was I prey, many times people mistook me for prey though so I had to develop a certain kind of thinking. Thankfully most of the predators I dealt with didn’t think or strategize too far ahead, or I might very well have ended up prey. The predators we are dealing with now, the ones leading the pack are very intelligent and patient. The individual members of the pack might not be, but the leaders are to underestimate them could be fatal.

        • Darren says

          Nov 25, 2014 at 2:01 pm

          The way I think is rare though most people succumb to their emotions in the heat of the moment, people are emotional creatures. The majority of people are judging this situation with their emotions and feelings. It makes you feel good to think we can all get along, and that a major war isn’t going to happen. The evidence and history on the other hand paint an entirely different picture. Since the herd isn’t seeing the predator bare down on them with fangs drawn, they assume they are fine and all is well. What the more astute herd animal is seeing, are the predators circling and positioning themselves. Stealth jihad like tactics taking over the debate, infiltrating and subverting us from within, forming no go zones, declaring a womb a weapon ect these are all signs to me. I know I’m not alone in seeing this, as evidenced by the some of the brilliant posts here.

      • Wolfgang says

        Nov 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm

        Darren wrote…………………..

        ” Honestly I don’t think it’s being a psychopath, it has more to do with the majority of people preferring to deny an uncomfortable truth and reality. We do it all the time lie to ourselves for whatever the reason, usually because the truth makes us feel uncomfortable. I’m the opposite, I like to know the truth and prefer people be direct with me, no matter how it makes me feel. I’d rather someone call me an a*hole to my face or try to take my life openly than plot scheme, lie and manuever. The majority of people are not like this, and most prefer to live in a dream world and the only time they wake up from that dream is when they are forced to ”

        You are 110 percent correct.

        A good investigator separates emotion from fact, same as a hunter, deals in fact, same as a soldier. The best ones look coldly at the facts.

        I took the red pill a long, long,time ago, 90 percent of society is on the blue pill……being situationaly aware at all times is a exhilarating skill to learn and develop.

        • Darren says

          Nov 26, 2014 at 1:10 pm

          I didn’t develop it by choice, and truthfully I wish I never had to hone it the way I did in the streets. I hated living like that, it’s like being at war, never letting your guard down always analyzing every situation looking at all the angles, never trusting anyone or anything, living in a state of paranoia, though the paranoia is well founded since when people think you are prey they many times are out to get you. The side effect to living like this for a long time is, even when you aren’t in that war like situation a part of you still sub consciously is.

          I have never been in an actual war zone, but in having conversations with people who have, the experience is very similar. It is a double edged sword, I am able to view most things without emotion, being able to do so I am able to usually since {I’m not perfect but the skill helps me come to more logical decisions about many things. The downside is of course sometimes you read more into something that is actually there. I also have seen the darker side of human nature played out day in and day out over a lengthy period of time, I find many similarities to street life and the wider world.

          I was so keen on observing and being aware of my surroundings since it can save your life or at least help prevent serious injury. I was no gang banger I simply lived there, and for a time I was out of my element until I adapted. This isn’t the place to tell my life story, I simply use it in the context that I am good at spotting predatory behavior and the signs of predatory behavior in people, and islam is the religion of the predator. As to 90% of society taking the blue pill, this has more or less always been the case. Maybe denying reality is some inner defense mechanism people have or something since a lot of people really can’t handle the truth for whatever the reason who knows. I think the majority of the people who are aware are too busy profiting off of the other 90% to really care.

        • Wolfgang says

          Nov 26, 2014 at 10:53 pm

          @Darren

          I have been in a hot zone and been shot at and wounded,I have seen men die, I do not talk about it with anyone, I have also lived rough through circumstances not my own, while I have a very strong belief in God, I also have a core inside made of steel, by nature I don’t trust people much anymore, the effects of what I have been through have changed me radically, when the pressure is on such as loss of job, loss one’s family or other dramatic changes , brutal hardship and life changing situations will force great changes on people. Most I have seen succumb to self pity or sorrow of ” wo is me ” and plunge further into depression, some go the other way, when backed into a corner they will fight tooth and nail against the odds for survival and win. For some, life itself is worth holding onto , when all else is stripped away they will not roll over and die till the last breath is drawn. I have had to become one of those types of people. I suppose by now that makes me a free thinker and I value solitude in the forests.

          Your core beliefs when the material goods we think mean something are taken away is what determines how much will we have to live. Face death in the face and you will see how much you hold onto life. I did.

          If you place a man in the wilds a hundred miles from the nearest human outpost with only the clothes on his back and a 5 inch bladed knife , water bottle and few will survive, 99 percent of people will die,most from despair and panic.

          For me facing the dangers of Islam is just the same as facing a hot zone, or street riot or civil collapse. They all involve being very aware and switched on mentally of your surroundings at all times and taking personal measures to deal with physical attack.

        • Darren says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 12:38 pm

          I have also seen death, and you are right it does change you. Also when you are faced with a true life or death situation you really do come to appreciate life more. There is also a certain thrill and exhileration one feels when surviving such a situation. The feel of the blade whistling past your face dodging it super heightened senses, honestly I can see where the appeal of living the way of the warrior comes from, there really is a certain appeal to putting your life on the line in combat. If you survive the encounter it is quite the experience. I know I’m the overwhelming minority since most people react with fear.

          I was the opposite, a part of me enjoyed the fight where my life was balancing on razors edge. The whole woe is me despair thing, that is in everyone to one degree or another, it’s like a small voice than can become a thunderous one depending on how much you listen to it. Many people are able to ignore it, many aren’t. You are right about the whole backed into a corner thing. thankfully I seem to function better when I get to that point, it’s when you either start panicking or fall into despair when the mistakes really start piling up, usually if you can keep a clear head despite how you feel you usually end up all right, of course this depends on the situation of course, I am just saying in general.

          I am also of the same belief as you, I find most of my happiness not from material wealth, and when it comes to possessions I am content easily. I see you also have a deep love of nature, my dream is to move to Alaska when I have the money saved up and go on nature excursions and hopefully be able to climb a few mountains. There are some real beautiful sights to see up in Alaska, seeing them on a computer screen can’t compare to seeing them in person and experiencing the beauty of nature up close and personal. As to islam I see it rings the same alarm bells as it does with me, someone like you I am sure can also sense predatory behavior, it’s hard to explain but when you are in certain situations long enough you almost feel it instinctualy. I am sure you understand what I’m talking about, you more or less described it as well. Islam is the greatest threat humanity has ever known.

        • Wolfgang says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 4:54 pm

          @Darren

          Combat is the ultimate adrenaline rush, be it a dangerous animal such a Grizz or a rogue bull elephant or someone shooting at you or trying to knife you to death, for me time slowed down, no other way to explain it, I truly do think time itself slows when extreme danger threatens you and you are prepared to die.

          My own dream is to live far away from towns or cities and live being self sufficient, to live peacefully and be left alone, the bright city lights I have no time for nor do I seek them now, my place of peace are the vast forests in Idaho or Montana.

          I can live easily without people with the barest of modern goods. I find peace there in the wilds, I have no fear of forests at night alone or places that scare most away, I see most city and town’s people are scared when darkness falls in the great forests,dark forests at night with no lights for a hundred miles scare most, an unreasoning fear comes out in people. almost a primordial fear, I embrace the silence and feel connected with the forests, the ground, I understand God better.

          I learn’t to make fire from flint and rock, hunting ………..I learn’t to track animals and sign.

    • duh_swami says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 3:40 pm

      A psychopath is someone who feels no remorse for his actions…Hannibal Lecter of the movies would be your ultimate psychopath. No need for remorse with jihadi’s, Quran 8:17 says ‘you don’t kill them, Allah killed them…’ Allah the killer, you have heard of him haven’t you?

      • Darren says

        Nov 26, 2014 at 1:19 pm

        I would say your ultimate psychopath or sociopath would be your elected prostitute or as people like to refer to them as politicians. I would also rank many CEOs of large companies up there with ultimate sociopaths. What people fail to realize is being a sociopath isn’t always a negative trait, at least in regards to success in life. I would argue that percentage wise sociopaths are more likely to succeed financially and/or gain power than non sociopaths. The reasons being obvious I would think. Who wins in a fight between equal or near equal opponents the one who follows certain rules of engagement or the one who will do anything and everything to win? This is why I argue by and large the majority of those in power world wide and in the highest levels of business have many sociopathic traits and tendencies. I am not arguing they are all outright sociopaths, but the majority are either outright sociopath or have many sociopathic traits.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 12:21 am

          So if you think psychopathy wins every time – if that’s more “real” and “true” than anything else – if EVIL is **the** nature of “reality”, *the* underlying paradigm that governs human existence and human society…why haven’t you converted to Islam?

          Do you agree with the creed of Lord Voldemort: “There is neither good nor evil, there is only Power and those too weak to seek it”?

          IF Islam is more in accord with the nature of “reality” as you are proclaiming it to be….dog eat dog, devil take the hindmost, suspicion and aggression ought to be default posiition of all humans all the time and everywhere, and anybody good or decent or kind is either a fake or just a stupid fool who will get exploited or eaten sooner or later…then why haven’t you converted to Islam??

          If the ultimate reality, the realest “real”, is what Christians and Jews have always defined as EVIL and sin — if that’s what wins every time, if deceit and aggression are *the* way to get ahead, ALWAYS, if there’s really nothing else, if that’s the beginning and end and middle of things — and goodness, kindness, gentleness, grace, honesty, trust, faithfulness are mere frippery or illusions, they don’t REALLY exist or have no basis or guarantee in ultimate reality…then why aren’t you rushing off to say the Shahada and align yourself with Reality with a capital R, namely, the merciless pursuit of power?

        • Darren says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 12:47 pm

          I am not hardwired that way, I’d rather fight those who are. I was simply making an observation. As they say the world is the devils playground. Not all people seek power, actually the minority of people ever seek it, but those who do the majority of them are hardwired in my opinion and observation a certain way. There is both good and evil, I choose to be good, knowing I also have the dark impulses we all have to become evil. I simply suppress or ignore that devil on my shoulder telling me to be evil or be evil for the sake of getting ahead. I live by a certain code, one of the things I live by is I will never screw someone else over for personal gain. There are many times in my life I could have, but I’d rather do the honorable thing. I am not motivated by power or wealth, I need neither to be content. I’m not saying people good are stupid, or that they lose every time, I was simply pointing out that many of those who have a desire for power have these tendancies. I guess you misunderstood what I was trying to convey.

        • Darren says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 12:53 pm

          Typo I meant to say I am not saying people that are good are stupid. Choosing to live an honorable a decent life to me is the superior way to live, because at least when I close my eyes at night I’m content in the fact that I am not evil, nor do I hurt my fellow man. When I face my end I can also die knowing this. Whether there is a god or an after life still won’t effect my decision to live the way I do, since I don’t do it for a supposed reward. I’d rather just be a good decent human being just for the sake of being a good decent human being.

        • Wolfgang says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 5:06 pm

          @Darren

          Thank you for taking the time to reply to me, I appreciate it. You share the same as me, that is very, very rare.

          I do not find many people who stop and listen in the woods, who can ” see ” the color of the birch tree or the striations on the bark, notice the prints of the fox who is lame on one foot in the soft ground or the hoot of the barn owl at night in the tree above you or how to gather fatwood from a fallen pine stump or how to set a deadfall trap to catch that rabbit or how to use fire to hollow out a hardwood log to boil water.

          To me these are the old ways, ways the early pioneers knew, ways lost to most, nor do they care. I live simply now, day to day. Each day I value. When I wish to be alone, I disappear for days on end.

          The skills I have learned I would love to teach others, but few are interested.

  3. john spielman says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    perhaps the UK police should ‘patrol ” muslim areas from inside a tank. Or better yet with counter insurgency army patrols like was used in Bagdad and Kabul

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 11:46 pm

      Once again Michael is claiming that the West violently targets “blasphemers”.

      This is, of course, utterly false. Since he advocates this, perhaps he would be happier with Islam, which actually does this.

    • John says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 4:12 am

      I carry a ‘Reliance to Travellers’ when walking the Shariah law areas of London now.
      Highly Recommended, as its production and quoting (especially O 15) when accosted by agressive young Muslims, puts the wind up them when you know their law better than they do. And you are prepared to enforce it against them with their own Iman.

      Given the choice they would rather face English law than Shariah, after all its the choice of being bound over to keep the peace or Crucifixion.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 26, 2014 at 4:53 pm

        John, good for you for your familiarity with the Reliance of the Traveller, and for taking Muslims to task on their bs.

        Just one thing—you wrote:

        Given the choice they would rather face English law than Shariah, after all its the choice of being bound over to keep the peace or Crucifixion.
        ……………………………………

        I’m not sure I’d count on this—after seeing *exactly* what Shari’ah law is in the islamic State, more Muslims seem drawn to it than ever before.

        I imagine that they aren’t envisoning facing crucifixion or any other barbaric horror of Islamic law, but rather *implementing it*.

      • John says

        Nov 28, 2014 at 8:31 am

        Thanks Graven Image

        Like most of us, I cannot carry a handgun legally in the UK. So the book does.

        I have made some Imans back down on the Shariah law crap when I have insisted on the Islamic punishment for their youth and the actions they carry out in the name of Shariah. They all agree that UK law is better. Thats an important MORAL victory in my eyes. And in theirs.

        I also carry a swordstick so I have no fear of them. And what did Mo’hed say about the ‘Book and the Sword’.

        Some have said i am wrong – but by fighting a little every day, and winning with their own rules I will have an effect. Better than the macho guys on this site who would fight with guns they do not have, and break their own laws to do so.

        Words in the wind will not beat this, but I am seventy, and spent most of my working life in the ME, I know them better than most on this site. And I know what effect my words have on the Imans to whom I talk.

        Little victories are much better than piss in the wind

    • DP111 says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 11:20 am

      Have a look at the comments in the DM article.

      Despite strenuouis efforts by the state funded broadcaster BBC, the rest of the media plus politicians, the sheeple are not buying.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Nov 27, 2014 at 12:28 am

        *I’m* not that surprised by what you are seeing. But then, I read G K Chesterton.

        The more bitterly pessimistic denizens of the jihadwatch commenting community would do well to do the same.

      • Darren says

        Nov 27, 2014 at 12:58 pm

        I am just relaying my own observations of human behavior, and most people won’t act or choose to act until they feel the heat. Maybe your observations differ from mine. I also base my statements off of various things I’ve read in history, most notably the rise of Nazism and Hitler. People often mistake realism for pessimism, which is to be expected. We all want to believe in fairy tales, this tale can still have a happy ending, I’m not saying that, I’m simply stating it’s going to get a lot darker before the dawn.

  4. Salah says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    A great article by Ann Barnhardt:

    “This is why law enforcement officers are called “peace officers”. That isn’t irony, it is truth. The very men who are trained to use billy clubs and firearms against criminals are trained and called to do so in order to see justice done in charity and thus MAINTAIN THE PEACE. Wyatt Earp was gifted a revolver by the people of Dodge City with a plaque on the butt with the word “Peacemaker” engraved on it. This wasn’t snark or irony on the part of the citizens of Dodge City. It was a statement of truth. Peace is the state of applied justice in charity within a society, and thus it is completely appropriate to emblazon a gun with the word “peacemaker”.”

    http://www.barnhardt.biz/2014/11/24/the-one-about-blessed-are-the-peacemakers/

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Reckless Islam-promotion by the Cameron government is successfully making Britain less and less safe.

    • Darren says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 1:24 pm

      Of course what do you think happens when you encourage predators? Will they stop being predators, or simply take advantage of the predator friendly environment. Just because you wish it so, won’t make them quit being predators. Talking to a Grizzly won’t make it any less likely to eat you when it’s hungry.

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    The grey-on-grey typeface is very problematical, O website guru.
    PLEASE may we have darker ink?

    • sdteakman says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 7:03 pm

      Myself…i would prefer a dark background with a white type…much easier on the eyes.

      Kinda like BlackBerry 10 with the dark theme…and besides its a lot easier on the laptop battery..No.?

      Cheers,

      Stk reporting from the last bastion of true rednecked democracy outside of Texas…the Alberta Oil Sands.

    • pumbar says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 11:28 pm

      Couldn’t you use CTRL + mouse wheel to zoom the page? It might make things a bit clearer?

    • Darren says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 1:27 pm

      The mighty website guru demands tribute! He demands two chests of gold and silver, and lots of pretty women. He thought about human sacrifice but decided the whole Volcano god spiel is too cliched, so decided going Viking would be the ideal route plus he said he looks bad ass with a long sword and shield. (Obviously this is a joke, but I the website guru got where he is by being dumb)

      • Darren says

        Nov 26, 2014 at 1:28 pm

        Typo I think and not being dumb.

        • Darren says

          Nov 26, 2014 at 1:31 pm

          Mighty Odin please add an edit button feature, when I say something really dumb I wish to have the ability to self correct myself before I make a further ass out of myself. If you do this I will sacrifice two goats in your honor.

  7. duh_swami says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    For foot patrols two or even three officers is reasonable. In cars one can do it, or two if going to a bad district…At any rate when there is more staff, there is less injury and death.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 27, 2014 at 12:36 am

      Yes.

      Two makes sense for *any and all* situations.

      And in Islamified areas of Infidel lands I’d argue that three should be the bare minimum for a cop patrol detachment, because three can watch each other’s backs and three is starting to project a bit of power.

  8. gerard says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    “But chiefs have refused requests to increase protection”
    What is wrong with these people?!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 27, 2014 at 12:49 am

      This is where ordinary British jihadwatchers could perhaps pile on a bit of pressure on *behalf* of poor old overworked and now threatened-with-ambush-and-beheading Sergeant Plod.

      Letters to the police chiefs, and to the Police Minister (I assume there is one), and to other relevant bodies – MI5 – stating that you, as *citizens*, would feel much safer and happier if your cops are able to do their job properly. State that you would like the budget to be rejigged to pay for *more* cops, so that beat police can patrol in pairs or in threes in all “high-risk” areas. Refusing to police adequately on budget grounds is being penny wise and pound foolish. State, furthermore, that in the light of the jihad attacks on Lee Rigby and ongoing jihadist threats to specifically attack both cops and soldiers – and the *actual* attacks on cops and on soldiers by Muslims, in both Canada and the USA – you would like all currently-serving cops and soldiers – whether on or off duty – to be permitted to carry a regulation weapon at all times, with permission to use it in defence of themselves and others. Oh…and when you write those letters, let your *own* local cops know that you’ve done so; that you *care* about them being able to do their jobs properly. That you know the risks they run, perhaps even better than they do themselves.

      Further thought: does the UK have Neighbourhood Watch?? If so: nothing to stop Islamoaware British jihadwatchers from joining their local group if one already exists, or if there isn’t, creating a new one. Read the book “Getting Through” and check out the materials in ACT for America’s “Thin Blue Line” project which aims to create real Islamoawareness among ordinary cops. Then, softly softly, see what you can do to raise awareness among your fellow Watchers in the neighbourhood, and among the local cops with whom you will liaise.

  9. Bamaguje says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 pm

    Police officers patrolling Muslim areas should be armed.

    • Judi says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 6:32 pm

      They are ………with batons!!!

  10. jewdog says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    This is bad, but the supine response to the grooming gangs’ abuse of teenage girls is much worse. I think Britain is showing definite symptoms of cultural flaccidity and decay. For a precedent, Chinese history shows that dynasties lasted an average of 250 years before their decadence led to their replacement by more vigorous opponents, generally warlike horsemen from the north. Perhaps Britain is ripe for overthrow, perhaps by warlike head hackers, from the south.

    • Darren says

      Nov 27, 2014 at 1:10 pm

      The ancient Chinese had some interesting things to say about a lot of things. Ever read anything about the Romance of the Three Kingdoms? You might have or your kids if you have any might have even played a game based on that time period. Or if you have ever seen the Chinese movie Battle of Red Cliff, it was a big hit in China, it was like their version of Brave Heart. I’ve recently started watching a show that takes an interesting take on the scenario and actually backs it up with some historical evidence by portraying Cao Cao as someone other than the bad guy. The Tao also makes good reading material. As far as being conquered by warlike horsemen from the south Britain isn’t the only country that is vulnerable. I also read that the average democracy lasts 200 years. Another good quote is this one.

      Each of the great civilizations in the world passed through a series of stages from their birth to their decline to their death. Historians have listed these in ten stages.

      The first stage moves from bondage to spiritual faith.

      The second from spiritual faith to great courage.

      The third stage moves from great courage to liberty.

      The fourth stage moves from liberty to abundance.

      The fifth stage moves from abundance to selfishness.

      The sixth stage moves from selfishness to complacency.

      The seventh stage moves from complacency to apathy.

      The eighth stage moves from apathy to moral decay.

      The ninth stage moves from moral decay to dependence.

      And the tenth and last stage moves from dependence to bondage.

  11. David says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    The Plod exists no more. That legendary Bobby of old armed only with his trusty whistle and billy club once roamed the dark streets of Britain, putting the collar on miscreants with little fear for their own safety. They were respected by all from both sides of the law. Now they carry automatic weapons and modern communication devices because there is a new kind of criminal on the streets, one that has no respect for the laws of the land and loves death as much as we love life.

    • pumbar says

      Nov 25, 2014 at 11:30 pm

      And Pepsi-Cola.

      • Wolfgang says

        Nov 26, 2014 at 1:15 am

        The average street PLOD does indeed carry HK MP5’s in their cars………in lock boxs, you see these thugs at the airport now and other places……all you need do is yell out you support Robert Spencer and you are done for……..they will pounce on you by the dozen like a bunch of coon hounds on a limp fox…

    • Hugh Vincelette says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 10:23 am

      You are so very right. A general recently said “How do you handle an enemy that looks down the barrel of your gun and sees paradise?”Now is the time to review immigration policies , expedite deportations, & insist on adherence to our values of liberty, justice & equality. The key word here being ‘now’. It is appalling that British police have to fear venturing into any square inch of the UK.

    • Darren says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 6:18 pm

      From reports from the front they also love Red Bull it apparently gives jihadists wings. I prefer the U.S military giving jihadist’s wings,but I digress.

  12. Dave J says

    Nov 25, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    Bin Laden’s goal was to bankrupt and exhaust us and that strategy is slowly succeeding.

    Trillions on losing wars, billions on airport security and surveillance of suspected terrorists (and everyone else). To the point where we can’t even afford to patrol our own streets. Little money left for crumbling infrastructure, libraries or education.

    So street crime and vandalism is ignored, but we can still afford “Human Rights Commissions” and “Islamophobia” investigations. We can still afford Imams as prison chaplains and loads of “Professors of Islamic Studies” in our universities. Meanwhile everyone is on tenterhooks for the next attack, another mounting cost in anxiety and fear, as free discussion is discouraged.

    The murder of the West ends up being largely a suicide.

    • dsinc says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 1:04 am

      You nailed it Dave. Agree 100%

    • Darren says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 6:21 pm

      Osama Bin Laden in all of his deviousness and wildest dreams could never dream of a force as destructive as the not so Federal Reserve, and economists like Paul alien invasion Krugman. If he would have known such destructive forces existed he would have hung up his jihadist spurs and became a central banker. If the jihadists were smart they would quit trying to blow up innocent people with bombs, and just all get into banking and stock trading on fraud street… errr Wall Street sorry Freudian slip.

      • Wolfgang says

        Nov 26, 2014 at 11:18 pm

        @Darren

        The biggest gang of thugs and home boys……………..are the Police ! …… you think mutant bikers are bad ? ain’t nuthin compared to that criminal gang !. They have da brotherhood ! and all the tax funded toys ala government largesse .

        • Darren says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 1:13 pm

          I still think the gang in nice suits and flying on G5s are as big of a threat to the world as jihadists. Money changers and death go together like peas and carrots.

        • Wolfgang says

          Nov 27, 2014 at 4:27 pm

          @Darren

          The Jihadists are backed by the power of fiat money, it is not possible for them not to be. No banking system exists on this planet without the consent of the banking Oligarch’s, does not matter if the street Jihadists don’t believe it. That is irrelevant. Witness the power dynamic of central banks, 150 years ago, there were a handful, now there are over 160 centrals banks worldwide, the power to create money out of thin air. Its a giant ponzi scheme. Bernie Madoff was just a patsy. a small player in the big league. Wait for the next GFC, will make the 2008 look like childs play.

  13. gravenimage says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 2:20 am

    UK: London police afraid to patrol alone because of jihad threat
    ………………………….

    This is deeply disturbing—but should not surprise. There are already Muslim “No Go” Zones in Sweden and France where police and emergency services dare not go without serious backup.

    But this does differ in that British police may be directly targeted by Jihadists—which just shows that they are becoming more and more emboldened.

    • John says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 5:28 am

      I carry a ‘Reliance to Travellers’ when walking the Shariah law areas of London now.
      Highly Recommended, as its production and quoting (especially O 15) when accosted by agressive young Muslims, puts the wind up them when you know their law better than they do. And you are prepared to enforce it against them with their own Iman.

      Given the choice they would rather face English law than Shariah, after all its the choice of being bound over to keep the peace or Crucifixion

  14. Jayell says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 6:13 am

    Actually this is not new. The Met Police were known to patrol in pairs in certain parts of the east end of London many decades ago where there were known to be a preponderance of unsavoury characters on the loose. However, that was in the days before radios and patrol cars as we know them today and the officer’s only weapons would have been a truncheon and a whistle.

  15. clifford hall says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 7:11 am

    What is wrong with our people? When will they wake up? A perfectly reasonable request for additional protection is met with the response ‘get your eyes tested and keep them open’. Gawd.

  16. mortimer says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 8:25 am

    How many POLICE officers will be required to watch the jihadists??? TWICE the number ??? THREE TIMES the number.

    We will need extra police to follow the jihadists all day and all night.

    Finally, IS IT WORTH IT TO HAVE THESE BARBARIANS IN OUR SOCIETIES? Shouldn’t we exile them?

  17. David says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 9:21 am

    There were some good comments on the Daily Mail article before, but they have all been disabled now, they must have been too truthful. The people commentating were all realising the gates have been opened & the enemy are among them now, the penny has dropped for the majority of Brits I think. Whether they do anything about it is another matter.

  18. RICHTHOFEN says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 10:04 am

    Until islam is proscribed as a terrorist organisation, we will all experience an escalation of violence, hatred, rape and murder until we are all dragged into the 7th century by this evil, viral, pandemic cult – culminating in our anihilation and the end of civilisation – this is a far more serious threat than ever naziism and fascism were. This is the cult which gave birth to those movements – yet all we do is appease, capitulate, kow-tow and denigrate those who speak out against it with our pathetic , politically (in)correct charges of ‘isms’ and ‘phobias’, all designed to silence those who have the courage to speak out

  19. SpiritOf1683 says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 3:51 pm

    So the police want protective equipment to fend off Jihadis. How about a pair of Smith and Wessons?

    • Wolfgang says

      Nov 27, 2014 at 4:05 pm

      @SpiritOf1683

      well the cops there are now disarming people with knives…..ANY knife with a blade length of longer than 3 inch’s is a no no.

      If I walk around with my BK9 or my Ka bar, I will get arrested and charged with a crime. You cannot even use a 9 inch blade for Bushcraft use in the UK. The Cops there are complete asswipes.

      Any knife longer than 3 inch is suspect.

      https://www.gov.uk/find-out-if-i-can-buy-or-carry-a-knife

      The people in the UK WILL NOT ever be allowed Smith and Wessons.

  20. Gamaliel says

    Nov 26, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Feeding all the wives and babies of those Jihadis makes those budget cuts necessary

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 26, 2014 at 5:23 pm

      Grim but true. Suicidal madness.

  21. Wolfgang says

    Nov 27, 2014 at 3:44 am

    …….” Some also want the right to carry protective equipment such as CS spray and batons when they go off-duty, over concerns they could be targeted as they leave stations at night…………..”

    ……………” ‘Frontline police officers in London are fearful they could become victims of savage targeted attacks on the streets of the capital by fanatical Islamist jihadists…….”

    these same cops are the ones who actively and vigilantly prosecute people who defend themselves from home invasion and aggressive attack.

    How Gun Control Made England The ‘Most Violent Country In Europe’
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/24/How-Gun-Control-Made-England-The-Most-Violent-Country-In-Europe

    and here…….

    Here the moronic UK Cops are going to ban knives…..!
    http://weaponsman.com/?p=19134

    Some people on here think arming the UK cops with items the average person cannot use is a great idea ?, why are they so special ?, YOU are the only person who can guarantee your safety, some of you need a reality check ! the very people who will prosecute the average person want more protection ? gimme a break !…….one word hypocrites !.

    As Billy the kid said in Young Guns……. ” you reap the whirlwind Sherriff “………..

    One last thing………..people carry knives for 4 reasons

    1. In their job such as EMT, Fire, Fisherman, Storeman, etc.

    2. Recreational use, hunters, campers,hikers, Bushcraft, etc.

    3. People to protect themselves from aggressive random attack.

    4. Criminals themselves or potential criminals.

    SUPPORT THE COPS for protection when they support you.

    • Darren says

      Nov 27, 2014 at 1:17 pm

      I agree law abiding Brits should be allowed to carry to protect themselves and their families. It’s not the law abiding citizens carrying guns you should fear.

      • Wolfgang says

        Nov 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm

        Every free thinking person has the right to have the following at home :

        1. AR15

        2. Mossberg 590

        3.Ruger GP100

        ( Or your choice of similar )

        The Cops are not there to protect Joe public, they are there to protect the rulers in power, to think anything else is stupid and foolishness.

  22. Samir S. Halabi says

    Dec 8, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    Why don’t the police patrol those streets with massive Military Canine Protectors, not German Shepherd dogs, they are t large enough nor heavier enough. They can be Black Russian Terriers, some weigh upto 82kgs and stand to their shoulders from 76c/m to 82 c/m I mentioned this dog just for an example. However no Muslims would even dare to take this type of dog on.

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