There is a small possibility that this was not a jihad attack, but it is exceedingly small. The offender is “described as black or Asian.” “Asian” is British media Newspeak for “Muslim.” The Islamic State just called for attacks on military and law enforcement personnel in the West, and there immediately followed the jihad murders of two Canadian soldiers in separate incidents, and the hatchet attack on police by an Islamic jihadist in New York City.
What’s more, Islamic supremacists have previously shown their distaste for Remembrance Day observances.
“Army cadet, 15, burned with aerosol can and lighter after he sold Remembrance Day poppies in Manchester city centre,” by Sam Webb, Daily Mail, November 2, 2014 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
An Army Cadet suffered burns in an unprovoked attack after selling poppies for Remembrance Day.
The 15-year-old boy was waiting at a bus stop at 6pm yesterday in Manchester city centre when a man approached him with an aerosol can and lighter and sprayed him with lit fumes.
The cadet, who was wearing his camouflaged uniform, suffered minor burns to his face and singed hairs on his face and right forearm, Greater Manchester Police said.
The offender, described as black or Asian, 5ft 8in tall and wearing a dark hooded top, walked off from the bus stop by the Manchester Gallery opposite George Street without saying a word.
Police said that he appeared to be under the influence of alcohol and was staggering.
Detective Inspector Liam Boden said: ‘This is an absolutely appalling attack on a young man who was raising money to help remember all those who gave their lives fighting bravely for their country.
‘At this stage of our inquiries, we’re keeping an open minded as to what motivated the offender to commit such an act.
‘Given the initial description we have of the offender, it may be that he was under the influence of something but whatever his motivation, his violent actions could have scarred this young man for life….
artie galvin says
I’ll wait for more info before I make a judgement but I am not optimist about this story.
Tim says
“Asian” is a p.c. term for Muslim in the UK, so don’t hold your breath.
Lee says
Yes, it’s amazing the gall of the elites where they actually *prefer* to use a *racial* marker – “Asian” – than the ideological one “Muslim”.
Which just goes to show that their concern about racism is utter b/s – the term instead being reserved by the elites for the purpose of smearing the character of people concerned about 7th century Islamofascism.
Bruce Lee says
You vote for the neo fascists that make up that poisoned environement of yours. You are responsible for every bit of it. Period.
voegelinian says
As I’ve noticed, and noted, many times before over the years, Muslims have become the #1 Privileged Ethnic Minority (never mind that Islam is “not a race” — that elementary logic means nothing to the addled minds of PC MC suffering from their Quantum Ignorance ), and the rule of thumb under the dominant and mainstream PC MC paradigm is:
“Whenever any ethnic minority or liberal cause (e.g., gay rights, women’s rights, animals rights, artistic freedom, etc.) comes in conflict with Muslims, throw the former under the bus in order to protect the precious rights and respect we hold dear for the Muslims.”
gravenimage says
Vogelinian wrote:
“Whenever any ethnic minority or liberal cause (e.g., gay rights, women’s rights, animals rights, artistic freedom, etc.) comes in conflict with Muslims, throw the former under the bus in order to protect the precious rights and respect we hold dear for the Muslims.”
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I believe this is directly *because* of their violence. The squishiest liberals have a special love for those who are hard to love: terrorists and mass murderers on death row.
Gays, feminists, animal rights’ activists and ‘artists’ may be loud and shrill at times, but they are in no way violent as Muslims are.
Even Anarchists like those in “Occupy” who smash windows and set police cars on fire pale in comparison—violent criminals and thugs come closer, but even they can’t rack up the body count pious Muslims can.
Hence, they perversely get the most sympathy from far-left liberals, who have a special place in their hearts for the most violent—and that trumps any other leftist cause every time.
We’ve seen this before, with the sympathy for brutal Communist regimes—just look at the ongoing love affair with the brutish “Che”—but Muslims have even outdone these perennial “heroes”—and leftist tools sport the Kefiyyehs to prove it…
voegelinian says
“I believe this is directly *because* of their violence. ”
Yes it is — but not solely. The evident fact that the PC MC worldview (which dominates the mainstream of the West) perceives Muslims to be an Ethnic People (or a wonderful rainbow, tapestry, mosaic, stir-fry, quilt of Ethnic Peoples) is also a contributing factor. This pushes the hot button of White Guilt which is extremely important to the PC MC worldview. The marked proclivity toward violence of Muslims then exerts its additional psychological force in the mentality of PC MC to position them at #1 — the #1 Ethnic Minority of the world to be respected at all cost, over and above all other ethnic minorities of the world.
Without these two factors in concert — the perceived ethnicity of Muslims and their violence — the West would have taken measures to protect itself rationally long ago. I.e., if for example Muslims were a white power group doing the same amount of violence (or even less), the entire international community of the West would have decided to take measures against them years ago.
Other factors also contribute to this (the sheer numbers and geographical diaspora of Muslims around the world; the long and rich history of Islam; the long-held status of Islam as a “world religion”; etc.), but they are not as crucial as the above-mentioned two factors — which, incidentally, are joined at the hip and cannot be considered apart from each other to understand the phenomenon of the Problem of the Problem (viz., the problem of the myopia of the West in the face of the problem of Islam).
Neil Jennison says
Only in the strange “black and white” universe inhabited by you Vogey.
There is some truth in what you say as there often is. But everything and everyone must be morphed to fit in your narrow definitions.
gravenimage says
Good point about the “Ethnic Peoples” angle, Voeg. These same people would never admire, say, violent neo-Nazis (assuming they could find any).
But Muslims—although they can also be white themselves, of course, either like the Chechen Tsarnaev brothers or as Western “reverts”—trump other “People of Color”, and that is in large part because of the violence factor.
The thing about violence is that it can work in a two-pronged manner on people in the West—inducing simple fear in most people, and a sneaking admiration and exciting frisson in those who idolize thugs.
Huck Folder says
NAMP
Huck Folder says
The face of the UK, THANKS to ISLAM:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2820780/Armed-teeth-firepower-face-policing-London-age-Islamic-terrorism.html
“Amid the pomp and ceremony of Changing the Guard, they stand out from the hundreds of tourists.
Armed to the teeth with firepower, the beefed-up police firearms officers are helping protect our soldiers from terror attack.
Police carrying powerful Heckler and Koch G36C semi-automatic rifles and Glock 17 9mm pistols patrolled on Horse Guards Parade in Whitehall, central London, earlier today.”
Are any of THOSE members of NAMP? How could you refuse them in a PC world? When will we see the first blue on blue attack, or should I say green on blue? Imagine a NAMP jihadist cutting down other members of his squad, then emptying magazine after magazine into crowds of tourists.
Anyone watching would first think that there is a bearded terrorist in a nightshirt, somewhere in the crowd, and the NAMP cop is trying to down him.
gravenimage says
Terrifying idea, Huck—but quite likely. In places like Britain Muslims have widely infiltrated the ranks of the police.
Somewhat related—in Oakland, California, members of Your Black Muslim Bakery in a fake police car pulled over two women, kidnapped them, and tortured them because they believed that they had won a big pot of money at a church bazaar (actually, they targeted the wrong women).
The victims were only saved because a *real* Oakland police officer happened upon the empty car and in the dimly-lit area assumed it was real and thought the officer might be in trouble—when he entered the house where the women were being held he was almost shot to death by the kidnappers.
And of course we have already had our first “blue on blue” atrocity here—the Ft. Hood massacre by pious Muslim Major Malik Nidal Hasan.
I fear it will not e the last of its kind.
gravenimage says
Correction—Ft. Hood was not “blue on blue” violence, which refers to police, but “green on green”, which is military—no wonder I confused these terms, though, because they are so silly and misleading—this is really all just “Muslim on Infidel” violence.
Huck Folder says
@ fifty shades of gravenimage:
My understanding is: blue are the good guys, red are the enemy (communists, anyone?), and green are mohammedans.
Blue on blue is like an own goal. (Dropping supplies to ‘our friends’ who then join IS…?) Red on red is their own goal, and we don’t usually hear about that, and they don’t care – inshallah!
Green on blue is for those too many times when Afghan soldiers or police, who were supposed to be our partners, murdered coalition forces.
Keith says
If the police can find the culprit of course, I don’t hold out much hope of that, especially if it is an Islamist attack. This is the Greater Manchester Police investigating who, of course, failed to find one “Asian” who was part of the gang rape and sexual exploitation of 1400 young non muslim girls in Rotherham.
forthfaran says
What a mealy-mouthed bunch they are.
Tim says
… and that was Muslim child rape that continued for 10 YEARS without any intervention from the police. Instead, they arrested the parents when they complained.
With police like that who needs enemies?
And let’s not forget that 1,400 was only the initial number they found before it had been investigated further. The nationwide number is believed to be over 100,000 cases.
Neil Jennison says
That was South Yorkshire Police….but I am sure the GM police have been equally useless about Islamorape too.
It says a lot that I have just watched the BBC News at 1 pm and this attack was simply not mentioned at all – I discover it here on an American website.
Sovereign Man says
It’s time to bring the terror to the terrorists. Multiple studies have indicated that at least 80% of Mosques in the West preach hatred and violence. I find these statistics amusingly naiive, since by default Islam in inseparable from hatred and violence. These houses of hate are the forward operating bases of the Mohammedan invasion. The sick collection of toilet paper called the Koran is the field manual for the invading army.
All worshipers of the loose sphincter of Mohammed have a violence switch programmed into them from an early age. They are peaceful only until the day they are called to violence, whether by decree of the Khalifa or by some perceived insult of their psychotic peadophilic prophet (may Ebola-infected pigs crap upon him). There are as many “moderate Muslims” as there were “moderate” Nazis.
Jay Boo says
“Houses of hate”
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Descriptive and accurate.
sovoreign fist says
You allowed them in the first day why do you whine and complain now? Pathetic.
Sovereign Man says
@sovoreign fist
I never “allowed” anyone in. I have been active in politics, supporting candidates and representatives who have done more to curb immigration by incompatible peoples than any others the West. My MP has become a senior cabinet minister in Canada, and among other portfolios has been responsible for immigration policy.
It is not my fault that the rest of my country, and the rest of the West is populated by apathetic, ignorant narcissists who know nothing about the world and fully intend to stay that way. I have done my part, including military service. I cannot force people to enlighten themselves. So maybe you should shut the hell up.
tpellow says
How many Muslims in U.K are sympathetic to what Remembtance Day represents? How many are indifferent? How many are hostile?
R Cole says
@tpellow –
More British Muslims have gone over to join ISIS – than are members of the British Armed Forces.
Just the facts.
mortimer says
Wow!
dumbledoresarmy says
Though, in light of what a Muslim enlisted in the US army did at Fort Hood, I am *delighted* to find that few Muslim residents of the UK have chosen to enlist in the British Army.
An Army that is *not* infiltrated with Muslim Fifth Columnists is an army that, once it becomes fully aware of the meaning and menace of Islam, is much freer to act.
I do not want to see *any* Muslims enlisting in either the Australian army *or* the police force; their destructive influence, when they enter such bodies, is already manifest if one examines the history of such majority-Infidel African countries as are unlucky enough to have a Muslim minority. The Muslims infiltrate and subvert the army and police force and then …take over.
Jen says
So am I! They don’t deserve to wear the uniform. What happens if they suddenly become all ‘religious’ and turn on their own team members. No Muslims at border security, military, police, government, *any* kind of position of authority where they could use it to help their Muslim ‘brothers and sisters’. It’s not even worth the risk. Why should we put own people on the line, just to avoid ‘offending’ them. Give them the option of getting rid that horrible ‘religion’ first.
voegelinian says
Though, in light of what a Muslim enlisted in the US army did at Fort Hood, I am *delighted* to find that few Muslim residents of the UK have chosen to enlist in the British Army.
All it takes is one to mass-murder Infidels. No Muslim should be in the army of any free country (much less in any free country at all) — except, of course, for for nice friendly Muslims like “Paul”, “who ran the curry house on Spittal Hill in Sheffield” — “who are Muslims in name only. Nice people, (who cooked great curries i might add – fantastic Shami Kebabs!)”, who so impress the
Neil Jennisons of England).
Proud Infidel says
And this barbaric behaviour would surprise the British police and officials exactly WHY…………………..???? Just sounds like normative behaviour for these inbred savages. Ever notice how the “authorities” go out of their way to obfuscate about identifying the perp’s ethno-religious affiliation? Do they think people don’t know who they’re talking about!?!?! But of course the apologist, muslim-pandering, politically correct government is so careful not to upset the sensitivities of the whiney, welfare-sucking muslims presently running your country into bankruptcy. What an insulting slap in the face to all the fine folks of other “Asian” backgrounds who actually DO contribute to your nation!
Your esteemed PM Cameroon-goon and his financial lackeys are dropping their undies and bending over hoping for a huge influx of “interest-free” Islamic lending from the middle east muslim countries. They have mismanaged your country so badly for the past CENTURY, that they are virtually desperate for this Saudi oil money and investment. Problem is, there is NO FREE LUNCH. You gotta “pay to play” and the “cost” of all this “free” money is an unrestricted inflow of all the muslim world’s “garbage” and other undesirables. (The Palestinian’s REAL homeland is Jordan, but even the Jordanians don’t want these useless, shiftless freeloaders back.) Why would ANY of the OPEC oil cartel countries want to support/educate/upgrade the lives of their impoverished masses when they can just keep all the oil revenues for the elite and “export” their riff-raff to Britain and Europe …………………. I’m sure they just look at it as an off-shore rubbish tip. Not only Britain, but the entire European “union” is circling the drain and quickly picking up speed……………. shouldn’t be long now………………..
Donovan says
Well said. Gotta love the west. =D
When push comes to shove, the west will retaliate harshly. We just get on with our lives until it gets silly. It’s getting silly.
Prepare for the germanic tribes again. We be crazy.
fair_dinkum says
there is precedent. there have been numerous threats.
they started with poppy selling being somehow offensive to them..
then they killed Lee Rigby.
we ll see. i cant comprehend that its not another mental moslam.
Paul Moylan says
These things are so common with Islam being the religion of around 5% of the population here. The paedophile rings targeting non-Muslim white girls, the constant terror alert the other 95% have to live under etc. etc.
The blatant refusal of all non-violent Muslims to accept any social responsibility is perhaps the worst thing of all. Nothing will change, I’m moving down under or to some country with a sense of it’s own national identity that doesn’t take this cr@p……….. cant think of one though. China ? The only country gaining ground against Muslims, actively displacing them. One party state, but then isn’t the rest of Europe.
Nicu says
I feel very insulted that they call them Asians !
I am Japanese .
R Cole says
Get in the complaints line!
Hindus and Sikhs have been complaining about the ‘Asian’ label for ages.
citycat says
That’s nothing compared to the poor dogs.
All muslims are dogs, but NO dogs are muslims.
Richie says
Bear in mind the British media doesn’t want to offend Muslims- they don’t care if they offend other groups
Jen says
Naturally, because all other groups aren’t going to kill anyone if they get ‘offended.’
mortimer says
Agree with Nicu!
Yes, it’s very unfair to let Muslims hide their atrocities by slandering the VAST MAJORITY of civilized Asian people!
This is the way the Marxists defend their Muslim allies from criticism. No one may criticize a race in the West! However, Islam is not a race! Islam is a religion. Islam is also a political party. Islam is a political ideology. Islam is a supremacist ideology.
We saw in World War II what happens when ordinary, nice people are convinced by an ideology to do evil! When Muslims learn Islam’s methods of warfare and implement them, they become evil.
Georg says
Hang in there, Nicu!
We know perfectly well you’re not part of this faction of slimeballs. I couldn’t be more happy to have people of Japanese descent in the West! Exemplary culture and people.
Darren says
Another case of workplace violence. Selling poppies is dangerous business.
Darren says
General Allen Save us!!!!!!
Jen says
Hideous.
If this *is* an attack by Muslims, it is because they want to attack things which have cultural or historical significance to us. Wearing a poppy is part of our tradition.
Jen says
Or should I say *things* and individuals who represent or distribute these symbols which have cultural significance to us.
We need to keep showing pride in our culture. Keep displaying our symbols and rituals which signify our unity. We cannot bow to these people, even a little. They will run anyone who thinks like this over.
dumbledoresarmy says
How many times do I have to say this?
Sting ops. Sting ops. Sting ops.
This run-up to Remembrance Day is the *perfect* opportunity to conduct Sting Ops, nationwide, in and near every single Mohammedan-infested enclave.
The Mohammedthugs can’t resist themselves when they see something as tempting as an apparently vulnerable – unarmed, but in Infidel army uniform – Infidel youth selling poppies.
*Every* Infidel who goes out selling poppies in the UK needs three or four unobtrusive – but armed – persons in civvies, from the local cop shop or from the *actual army* (or else veterans; I am sure that there is many a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns who is able-bodied and would have all the requisite urban warfare/ covert ops skills!) shadowing them. Borrow a couple of nice dogs and handlers from the dog squad.
Then the *moment* the mohammedans – as they will, in any number of instances – attack: BOOM, bring down the hammer, seize, overpower, arrest, whisk away, charge, try, PUNISH. (Your poppy-sellers could be wearing hidden cameras so that everything that transpired would get recorded and the fact of the Muslims’ unprovoked and open aggression would be plain).
Just think: lure the evil b*st*rds out into the open, all over the country, and then *catch* them red-handed, in the very act of thuggery.
Clean up the streets!
I wonder how many such ambushes and arrests and whiskings-away could be conducted before mohammedthugs decided to give all poppy-sellers a wide berth, just in case??
Kel says
Damned good idea. ^^
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim sets fire to Army cadet selling Remembrance Day poppies
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Muslims have “objected” to poppy selling before. And why? Because it supports those who *protect Infidels*.
Here’s a story from two years ago:
“Royal British Legion to protect poppy sellers from Muslim attackers”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/royal-british-legion-to-protect-poppy-sellers-from-muslim-attackers
And the victim here, the cadet, is a *15-year-old boy*. I will keep him and his family in my thoughts and prayers.
More:
Given the initial description we have of the offender, it may be that he was under the influence of something
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Yeah—chances are the assailant was “under the influence” of Islam…
joeb says
“Asian” = double-plus un-good bellyfeel.
Minitrue has spoken.
Mark says
If only the police really did have an “open mind” on the motive. Experience tells me that even of someone confesses, says that they did it for Islam, and shots verses from the Qur’an that justify it the police will go out of f their way to say that it is just someone who doesn’t like poppies or some similar trash.
DiMu says
The UK is the canary in the mine and right now its about to drop off the perch. Is it just resting?
Richard James says
I live near to the site of this attack. The centre of Manchester, along with many of the outlying districts and nearby towns, is infested with muslims largely of pakistani, north african, and somali origin. It is hard to find cafes below the level of expensive restaurants that are not halal, even the traditional “english” Fish and Chips takeaways mostly have conspicuous halal signs, not to mention the pizza shops and the fried chicken shops. It’s a mohammedan hell-hole.
The muslims here behave with extreme rudeness and discourtesy, and are threatening if they think they can get away with it, both I and my partner have personal experience of threatening behaviour from muslims in Manchester.
For instance last week near a public square about a five minute walk from the site of this “blowtorch” attack a gang of muslim youths in grey robes and skull caps were walking in a side to side group, a sort of waking wall, along what you would call the sidewalk forcing other passers-by ie us “filthy kuffar” into the gutter and the roadway.
Rather than cause trouble everyone stepped out of their way into the gutter..
Except me.
I walked straight at them and barged through, telling one of them directly to his face that he was a “muhammadan vermin”. LIke most muslims they were cowards even when mob-handed, faced with me, well over six feet tall and big with it, they didn’t respond beyond jostling me and glaring at me.
The police in Manchester are cowards when faced with muslims – not only did they deliberately allow young girls go unprotected from muslim rape gangs, they allowed a gang of muslims and their marxist enablers to harass shoppers, particularly Jewish shoppers, outside the city’s main Marks & Spencer store every Saturday for about five years in the last decade.
I’m with Voegelinian on what has to be done, indeed I would go further. These muslims, whatever their ethnic origin and place of birth, and whatever our present laws, will have to be expelled from our countries. After that they should be made war on without relent – they are a curse on humanity.
Without that we will have no peace except their peace, and as everyone here should know, the muslim concept of peace is “no kuffar left to kill”,
voegelinian says
“I’m with Voegelinian on what has to be done, indeed I would go further. These muslims, whatever their ethnic origin and place of birth, and whatever our present laws, will have to be expelled from our countries. After that they should be made war on without relent – they are a curse on humanity.”
Well, Deportation (and its logical corollary, international Quarantine of Muslims forcing them to remain within the vast confines of the Dar-al-Islam — i.e., the unearned lands they acquired through pillage and rapine) is a hard enough sell and will require decades of intellectual battling in the War-of-Ideas theater (or “theatre” for the Brits) just to maneuver the gigantic obtuse H.M.S. Titanic around to the point where it is no longer merrily barreling ahead toward the iceberg of Islamic disaster for actually putting on the brakes. Then, even if (and, Allah willing, when) the West finally does get its shit together on this, the mere implementation of Deportation-cum-Quarantine will likely prove exhausting enough without having to add onto that insane plate an offensive war against by then probably 2 billion Muslims holding a collection of nations (the aforementioned Dar-al-Islam nations). No, it will be enough for the free world to merely maintain the Quarantine — and don’t expect that to be an easy cakewalk: Muslims, by virtue of their ideologically fanatical nature driven by their supremacist expansionism that makes Hitler’s Drang nach Osten look like a picnic, will present a perpetual, and perpetually wearying, task for the West to continue to police unto perpetuity, as it makes sure no Mohammedan tries to escape the Iron Veil (a mirror image of the Iron Curtain, which was erected by a freedom-hating ideology to keep freedom-loving people from escaping, whereas our Iron Veil will be erected to keep freedom-hating people (i.e., Muslims) from leaving their quarantine to try to invade and kill us and otherwise undermine our society in their infernally eternal Jihad).
gravenimage says
Richard James wrote:
For instance last week near a public square about a five minute walk from the site of this “blowtorch” attack a gang of muslim youths in grey robes and skull caps were walking in a side to side group, a sort of waking wall, along what you would call the sidewalk forcing other passers-by ie us “filthy kuffar” into the gutter and the roadway.
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This is, indeed, a specific thing—in the Pact of Umar, which codifies Infidel dhimmitude under the heal of Islam, Muslims are told to force non-Muslims “to the narrowest part of the roadway”—in other words, into the gutter.
Good for you for not meekly complying. Hopefully some of those Infidels who did saw your actions, and will realize that another course of action is possible.
Jen says
Good on you!! Don’t bow to these people. More need to stand up to them in daily life. They need to feel peoples’ wrath.
Yes, *ideally* what I want is for them all to be removed. Yes, it’s ‘unfair’ and blah blah blah but this is *our* country and our culture. They have proven themselves to be a menace on the whole. They criticise everything about our way of life and choose not to assimilate. Their ‘religion’ makes them a loose cannon. I don’t want to fight these people with one arm tied behind our backs. It should be all out. They aren’t going to tie one arm behind *their* back, that’s for sure.
For any of these supposed non-Muslim Muslims, they should immediately stop submitting themselves to this hideous ‘religion’ if its values don’t genuinely align with their own. There is enough disgusting aspects of this ‘religion’ for them to immediately decide this, without knowing the “whole truth.” How much truth do you need?! Drop it or get lost.
Of course there is the problem of knowing whether their apostasy is genuine…Which goes back to the *expel all of them* idea again…
Would the ones born in a Western countries be able to get residency/citizenship in their parents’ home countries by virtue of descent? Some would and maybe some wouldn’t. If not, the Islamic State is certainly a place with an open door policy. Sunnis will live a perfectly Islamic life; the Muslim dream (according to their ‘religious’ texts which they claim to adhere to as they’re calling themselves Muslim). The Muslims of other sects can convert if they really want to. I don’t want these people to be expelled to just any old country though. I want it to be a Muslim country so they don’t cause death and destruction within any other culture.
It is better to expel them sooner and not later because in some countries, you cannot receive residency or automatic citizenship by virtue of your descent once it goes beyond one generation. In other words, if your parent was born overseas, you could receive easy entry into the country your parent was born in. But if it was your grandparent that was born there, you’d face more obstacles, much like any other person wanting residency. I haven’t checked the rules with Muslim countries but I imagine something similar applies there(?). Or maybe, we could ask Muslim countries to open their borders and help their own ‘brothers and sisters.’ The hidden barbaric views of many “moderate” Muslims in the West would be very well received within their borders.
simpleton says
One arm is already twisted up our back through out the world.
For example, the institutions already are controlled in NZ, medical, health, police, army, teachers, corrections, judiciary, immigration, customs etc. as a trainee testifies.
A parallel culturalism, that is so easily extended to multi and adapted by the systems
http://treatygate.wordpress.com/
Left a post on NZ muslim but so far not gone thru.
Jen says
Thanks for the link. We need more NZ blogs where Kiwis can highlight matters in the way the mainstream media won’t.
This line here…“A victory for Maori”: judge discharges raging drunken racist boy racer mobster burglar so he can be king…”
I recognise some of the issues that this blogger is describing. I’ve always thought similar things myself (“Blame Pakeha”, “forward to the past” , “accentuate the primitive.” “convinced of their own uniqueness they divorce themselves from the human race” ). Teachers taught the material with that same apologetic tone like we all needed to be made to feel terrible about ‘what we did.’ I would describe it as “indoctrination” because it felt like we were taught the same old stuff again and again from primary school to high school to university. It got really tiresome. I knew all the history already after the first time it was taught, but they continued ramming it down our throats by weaving it into other ‘unrelated’ subject material at any available opportunity. It should be more balanced. I’m sorry if this is un-PC for me to say so but it contributes to the arrogance of these people which doesn’t help their own ‘racist’ attitude …I have seen it too many times. They’re just regurgitating what they were taught in school about being a ‘unique species that is divorced from the human race.’ This arrogance coupled with boozing, weed, violence, family issues etc.
voegelinian says
When the West gets ready to wake up, we won’t need (and shouldn’t feel we need) to ask Muslims for their permission to 1) deport Muslims, and 2) deposit them in any part of the Dar-al-Islam we please.
Jen says
I bet even the Muslim countries won’t want some these idiots when the time comes. What if they refuse to accept them entirely? That would only leave the wonderful Islamic State. Not to worry though. By the time this happens, the Islamic State could be an even bigger area and there will be plenty of places to put them. From reading the jihadists’ wives blogs, it actually doesn’t sound *that bad.* Providing you’re a Muslim and have no issues with beheading or massacring minorities or using stolen property (“gifted to them by Allah”), it sounds ideal.
voegelinian says
“I bet even the Muslim countries won’t want some these idiots when the time comes. What if they refuse to accept them entirely?”
So what if they refuse? Fly the transport planes over the country we want to drop them off (by parachutes) into, accompanied by fighter jets to make sure to decimate with missiles anyone who dares to prevent us.
Mirren10 says
”For instance last week near a public square about a five minute walk from the site of this “blowtorch” attack a gang of muslim youths in grey robes and skull caps were walking in a side to side group, a sort of waking wall, along what you would call the sidewalk forcing other passers-by ie us “filthy kuffar” into the gutter and the roadway.
Rather than cause trouble everyone stepped out of their way into the gutter..
Except me.
I walked straight at them and barged through, telling one of them directly to his face that he was a “muhammadan vermin”. LIke most muslims they were cowards even when mob-handed, faced with me, well over six feet tall and big with it, they didn’t respond beyond jostling me and glaring at me”
My husband and I had *exactly* the same experience in Amsterdam, last year.
And we did exactly as you did; except we didn’t say ”mohammedan vermin” ( I wish we had). My husband is a retired Parachute Regiment Officer, and the Paras don’t give ground to anyone – picture a six foot two, 12 stone para, barging his way through a line of mohammedan scum, with me holding tightly onto his hand, whilst wielding my umbrella ! They scattered like nine pins. 🙂
Champ says
Mirren10, that’s *awesome*!!! ..and you with your umbrella! ..hilaaaarious!! 😀
gravenimage says
Bravo, Mirren!
dumbledoresarmy says
WOW.
Well done with that umbrella!
And tell your husband from all of us here at jihadwatch that he’s a *hero*.
OMEGA2 says
ARE YOU BRITS SO DAMN DUMB THAT YOU ARE NOT SURE THAT SETTING THIS LAD ON FIRE IS NOT A JIHAD! ARE YOU PEOPLE THAT G-D SICK IN THE HEAD WATCHING THESE MUSLIM THUGS TARE UP YOUR COUNTRY WHILE YOU ALL STAND BY AND WATCH! FOR GODS SAKE WAKE UP AND KICK THESE THUGS OF HATE AND DEATH OUT BEFORE YOU LOOSE IT ALL!
sensationalism says
That’s just some regular UK hooliganism. Move along nothing to see here.
gravenimage says
Uh…right. Never mind that Mohammedans have specifically attacked patriotic poppy sellers before.
And those 24260+ Jihad attacks just since 9/11? Nothing to see there, either—probably just more “hooligans”…sarc/off
Neil Jennison says
I think Sensationalism was being sarcastic himself?
gravenimage says
You’re probably right, Neil—usually I’m pretty good at detecting sarcasm, but occasionally I fail to pick up on it.
In which case, my apologies to Sensationalism.
gp says
When the act like vermin, treat them like vermin. Do you want vermin in your house?
These vile jihadists must make Satan, who is their father, very proud. Naught but violence, hatred, and wickedness in their black hearts. You only need look at their faces, what a miserable ghastly looking crew!
d lesh says
Maybe they should be called mid-Asian ,so as not to give Asians a bad name!
voegelinian says
Many years ago, a British woman wrote an article about Remembrance Day and the poppies, relative to the problem of Islam (i.e., the problem of Muslims). I don’t usually post exceedingly long comments, but this essay by Carol Gould written in 2005 deserves to be presented here in its entirety (everything that follows is her words):
Last week was the culmination of that poignant fortnight in which people all over the world wear a poppy in the lead-up to Remembrance Day. Nothing is more dramatic than seeing the sea of red flowers in the lapels of British men and women as they make their way to the office in the early-morning rush hour. All across the British Isles men and women of all ages wear a poppy. When I arrived in the United Kingdom thirty years ago from the United States I was so touched by this tradition that I made sure to buy one from a British Legion volunteer as soon as November rolled around.
The poppy is a symbol of the terrible loss of life in World War I in the fields of Flanders, where these blood-red flowers sprouted above the acres of corpses of fallen soldiers. As the decades have passed, the poppy has been worn to show one’s respect for the millions who have died in successive conflicts as recent as Iraq and Afghanistan. On British television, every presenter and anchor wears a poppy. In keeping with the motto of the British Legion—“Wear your poppy with pride”—every shopkeeper, publican, hotel manager and cabbie wears a poppy. This year I proudly bought mine at my local doctor’s office.
It was therefore all the more astonishing last week when I took a long walk along Edgware Road, the most densely Muslim section of London, and discovered that not one person was wearing a poppy. This all started because I was accosted on my corner, a few yards form where I have lived for twenty-eight years, by a young Arab man who began to get very aggressive with me. Was I, he demanded to know, “from the Jewish”?
He also wanted to know why I was wearing a poppy. I tried to explain the concept of the Cenotaph and Armistice Day. But he seemed determined to establish that I was a Jewess above all else. No matter how hard I tried, I could not shake him off. I began to get very alarmed. I hailed a taxi and, thankfully, my pursuer, who was by this time shouting, did not get into the taxi. The driver was enormously sympathetic but told me that I had been “asking for it” by walking in what he called “Little Beirut.” He then told me that we were in World War III. His white, working class anger at what he perceived as “the Islamic takeover” of Britain was palpable. He was not the first London cabbie who has told me he would gladly join the far-right British National Party if pushed.
(It is worth noting in this context that London Mayor Ken Livingstone is trying to institute an initiative to bring ethnic minorities into the taxi fleet, to tackle its almost exclusively white domain. Keeping in mind that Washington D.C. has one of the worst taxi systems in the world, in part because most drivers can barely speak English and do not know the meaning of the words “cordial” or “polite”, especially where female passengers are concerned, one prays the Livingstone initiative will be approached with caution.)
The driver dropped me at Marble Arch. I decided to walk back slowly should my scary have made his way in my direction. As I walked, I realized that not one of the hundreds of Middle Eastern and British-born Muslims who run all of the establishments along Edgware Road was wearing a poppy. Before shouting “Racist!” the reader must understand the nationwide atmosphere of devotion every November to the memory of the hundreds of thousands of men and women who died—often agonizing circumstances and with some in their teens—so that we might live out our lives in splendor. The fact is that most everyone wears a poppy across a grateful nation.
As I walked along Edgware Road, crossing over from side to side of the long thoroughfare I began to get angry. If one lived in Damascus and there was an annual tradition of some sort similar to Poppy Day, one would show respect for the day and join in.
I went in to a greengrocer and asked the young man at the cash register why he was not wearing a poppy. His accent indicated he was English-born. He said, “I have no idea what you are talking about.” He turned to an older man sitting with him — perhaps his father — and asked him my question in Urdu. The man looked cross and I repeated, “Why do you British Asians (those from Pakistan) not wear a poppy?” he shrugged. “Are you not taught about the World Wars?” I asked.
I walked and walked that evening, stopping in to every hookah café, every electrical shop and every hijab boutique. Not one person was wearing a poppy.
The British government has brought in a new questionnaire for new citizens. It is full of obscure and at times outlandish questions about British culture. Frankly, I would fail on most of them. What immigrants and their kin need to be taught is that basic pride in being British with which immigrants to the United States glow with such radiance. If a whole portion of the British population does not care a toss about participating in one of the nation’s most sacred traditions, how can we ever “integrate”?
Yes, I am angry and offended that along the miles of pavement I trawled I saw not one poppy on the apparel of any Middle Eastern resident and merchant of Edgware Road.
That evening I did what millions of rapt Britons do every year: I watched the magnificent Remembrance Day concert from the Royal Albert Hall on the BBC in primetime. The Queen looked unusually tense and somber. Shortly after the event we learned that Abu Musab al Zarqawi had issued a warning that Her Majesty, leader of the Crusaders, would be the next target of al Qaeda. There she stood, amid the shower of poppies that rained down on the packed hall, looking down on the thousands of brave service people, and she seemed desolate. The sum total the Muslim world could contribute to the commemorations of the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II was this ugly threat from a man whose only occupation is spreading misery in his wake, be it a wedding in Jordan or a funeral in Iraq.
When I attended the mobbed Cenotaph ceremony the next day I did not see one Middle Eastern person in the throng.
When I told my local grocer, a Muslim born in the UK, where I had been that day, he looked at me with a blank stare. I said “Cenotaph” and he changed the subject.
Why is wearing a poppy such a big deal to me? It is a tradition started in Canada and the United States that spread to Britain and to the Commonwealth nations, who had also suffered great losses in the Wars. As a Briton born in the USA I feel honored to be a citizen of two great democracies. Another point Madeleine Bunting made in her article was that the young Muslims in a studio audience had endless complaints about life in Britain. They want to change foreign policy. Perhaps learning about how we got here, with our concert halls and opera houses and theatre and art galleries — not to mention war memorials — might be a start.
Now think of this: I am mortally afraid to wear my American flag pin in London. What does this say about the direction Europe is going? Bat Ye’or’s “Eurabia” is already erupting in France. Politically correct Britons scream at me if I defend the right of a cabbie to have the Union Jack on his London taxi. Others lament the “appalling custom” of Americans hanging flags outside their houses.
But all I want right now is to see British Muslims wearing their poppy with pride.
voegelinian says
One hopes that nearly a decade later, with Muslims only getting worse (except, of course, for nice friendly Muslims like “Paul”, “who ran the curry house on Spittal Hill in Sheffield” — “who are Muslims in name only. Nice people, (who cooked great curries i might add – fantastic Shami Kebabs!)”, who so impress the Neil Jennisons of England), that Carol Gould will have disabused herself of the ridiculous and reckless Great Expectations that burden her closing sentence.
Neil Jennison says
Vogey, Do you realise what a complete tit you are making of yourself?
Jen says
Thanks for posting this. It makes me really sad 🙁
It makes me *really* furious also. I am becoming more patriotic toward Britain each day because they’re trying to destroy *our* culture. I have a relative who died fighting for Britain. My father served with the British army. My grandfather also fought for Britain in WW2.
F### these Muslim invaders!!! Their lack of respect for our way of life means they don’t deserve to be there. They don’t care about our history. Why would they? We’re not Muslims.
Jen says
Maybe I should join the British Army as well…Expel some of my wrath…. Only half-joking…..
gravenimage says
My mother and aunt both served in the British military during WWII—my aunt (who is still with us) drove supply trucks in blackout conditions between London and the mouth of the Thames, and my mother served as a teletype operator and went through the London Blitz, once surviving a direct hit on the office building where she was working.
Surely Brits today are of the same stock—they just have to remember their brave heritage.
cassandra says
The very fact that this story is being covered up, that there is no continuing narrative leads me to know that the perpetrator is a muslim. This is sharia in action in UK: where muzrats are concerned it must never be discussed by the muslim protection force AKA the police force, those who provide cover: the mainstream media, and their sponsors, the British establishment.
Keith says
You’re going to let these sub humans into your country en mass without making them accountable, then you’re going to reap what you sow…
Lavender says
So it seemed the guy was under the influence of alcohol. Alcohol ist verboten in Islam! So let’s just name him Asian (probably Pakistani because England is full with Pakistani muslims..and Pakistan is in the continent Asia) To call him a Muslim while he’s a drunk is a bit weird. It’s like calling all white men that are arrested for any misconduct Christian and mentioning their Christianity as the reason why the attack happened. Just because someone or someone’s parents are from a ‘Muslim’ country, doesn’t mean that they are Muslim to -> religious -> practicing their faith.
I don’t get how you can post an article like this with such a title when nothing is known. He could be black or Asian..LOL..seriously!? A Pakistani does not resemble a black African man..not even a little!
The only thing we know is this:
– a guy attacked 15 year old boy with aerosol can and lighter (unprovoked attack)
– the guy seemed drunk or under the influence of a substance
– he walked off withput saying a word
– he could be black or asian
The part that the attacker walks of without saying a word and just walking of is very un-terrorist (in your worlds terrorist -> islam -> muslims) like. Clearly (in my view at least) this was just a nut. A regular nut who wanted to attack someone.
Just like those 3 WHITE boys, CHRISTIANS I GUESS, who beat up a mentally challenged man..just for the fun..because they could do it and wanted to post it on YouTube. (sarcasm mode on) Damn those Christians, always attacking the weak. (sarcasm mode off)
Mirren10 says
There are quite a few erroneous assumptions in your post.
”So it seemed the guy was under the influence of alcohol. Alcohol ist verboten in Islam! ”
Certainly, islam prohibits alcohol. What makes you think individual mohammedans don’t simply break this prohibition ? I personally know of many mohammedans who regularly drink lager; my husband worked for a short time with a taxi firm which employed almost 90% mohammedans – they nearly all guzzled lager, as well as scarfing bacon butties.
To assume that all people who identify as mohammedan will follow the rules of their religion, in total, is as simplistic as assuming that all those who identify as Christian, follow the tenets and morality of Christianity, in total.
”Just because someone or someone’s parents are from a ‘Muslim’ country, doesn’t mean that they are Muslim to -> religious -> practicing their faith”
True, however the probability of this being so is very likely; just as one might legitimately assume the probability that a person whose parents are from a Catholic country, probably means they themselves are Catholic, and practice the Catholic faith.
The difference of course, being, that Catholics aren’t known for hating and attacking poppy sellers, unlike the mohammedan religion, which you are at such pains to attempt to exculpate.
”I don’t get how you can post an article like this with such a title when nothing is known. He could be black or Asian..LOL..seriously!? A Pakistani does not resemble a black African man..not even a little.”
Clearly you are not from the UK, or you would know that the British msm routinely designates all mohammedans as ‘Asian’ in order to not describe them as what they are; mohammedans. Plus, of course, many, many blacks convert to islam. Has it escaped your notice that the murderers of Lee Rigby were black converts to islam ?
”The part that the attacker walks of without saying a word and just walking of is very un-terrorist (in your worlds terrorist -> islam -> muslims) like. Clearly (in my view at least) this was just a nut. A regular nut who wanted to attack someone”
There are plenty of nutters in this world, how many of them specifically target **poppy sellers** ? Especially in view of the number of documented cases of mohammedans who *have* specifically targeted poppy sellers.
”Just like those 3 WHITE boys, CHRISTIANS I GUESS, who beat up a mentally challenged man..just for the fun..because they could do it and wanted to post it on YouTube. (sarcasm mode on) Damn those Christians, always attacking the weak. (sarcasm mode off)”
How about you post a link ? And if there is such a youtube video, did these pus bags say they did it based on Biblical texts ? Granted, this creep didn’t quote the koran, but I personally would think he *was* a mohammedan. Because it is **mohammeans** who have attacked poppy sellers, no-one else.
But we’ll probably never find out, because the msm shuts down speculation and evidence of anything that might point that way.
gravenimage says
Lavender—whom I have never seen posting here before—wrote, among reams of other obfuscating bs:
(in your worlds terrorist -> islam -> muslims)
……………………………………….
Not all terrorists are Muslim—but the *vast majority are*, and Lavender’s sneering does not change that.
And as noted by Robert Spencer, Mirren, and myself in a previous post on this thread, Muslims have specifically targeted both poppy sellers and teenage military cadets—in both cases because they are emblematic of Infidels daring to defend themselves—something not allowed under Islamic law.
Here are more stories about open Muslim hatred of poppy selling:
“Hate preacher is freed from jail and immediately tells Britons not wear Remembrance Day Poppies”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324603/Hate-preacher-says-Remembrance-Day-Poppies-shunned-released-jail.html
Poppy burning Muslims plan ‘hell for heroes’ demonstration on November 11″
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2055365/Poppy-burning-Muslims-plan-new-hell-heroes-demonstration-November-11.html
There are, of course, many more.
Craig says
Notice the Police report went out of the way to mention the offender was staggering and appeared drunk.
They never write that. Pretty clear it was included in the report to take the public perception away from it being a jihadist attack as no one would expect a muslim to be drunk.
So transparent , the western media, yet so infuriating. Call it for what it is – the media would be the first to suffer under islamic rule. are they really this naive????