This story has nothing whatsoever to do with jihad. But it is emblematic of the abject weakness of contemporary Britain. If the Brits cower before a squirrel, even an “unusually aggressive” one, how do you think they will stand up against Islamic jihadists and supremacists — especially “unusually aggressive” ones? That’s right: they won’t. They will cringe, appease, and surrender, and that’s exactly what they’re doing.
Watch for the Squirrel Council of Britain to protest against how the schoolchildren provoked this poor squirrel until he had no choice but to act, and for the squirrel himself to be appointed headmaster of this school before too long.
“School playground evacuated during breaktime after ‘unusually aggressive’ grey squirrel threatened children,” by Hannah Parry, Daily Mail, November 28, 2014:
Schoolchildren were forced to evacuate a playground after a rampant squirrel caused havoc during breaktime.
A teacher at Chater Infants School in Watford, Hertfordshire, had to herd the youngsters back into the safety of the building after an ‘unusually aggressive’ grey squirrel disrupted their afternoon playtime.
One member of staff was even scratched during the encounter but fortunately no children were hurt in the incident.
Headteacher Amrit Bal-Richards said they were monitoring the situation and the caretaker is being extra vigilant, but the squirrel has not been sighted again.
She said: ‘We did have an incident where we had a squirrel.
‘It is very uncommon for a squirrel to be a little aggressive. It was a little bit tempered. We will be monitoring the situation and the caretaker is being extra vigilant.
AM says
The reason for the school action is the sueing culture in the UK. If anything happens to a child at school, the parents try to get money out of the system. I have heard it’s so ridiculous over there that children aren’t allowed to use stones when playing hop-scotch.
Know Thy Enemy says
I was about to post that if this squirrel were in some US school playground, the teachers here would have done the same thing and for the same reason as you explained.
Civil lawsuits is a privilege afforded to us by the Constitution. The abuse of this privilege by selfish people however, is so rampant that it has distorted the society over the last few decades.
Someone posted a while back that Islam not only encourages people (men especially) to bring out their base (animal) desires but actually rewards them for it. Civil lawsuits seem to fall in the same category. The lure of money is such that people forget everything else except the potential to get money, and do not feel dejected even after years of waiting.
If only people respected and exercised *Free Speech* as normally as they abuse and exercise civil lawsuits….
Note: I am not against the right to civil lawsuits, but rather its abuse. We need to figure out how to reduce this abuse, though I understand that JW is not the platform for such discussion (except maybe this thread).
My two cents on how to reduce this abuse is to have judges who have bias against permitting civil lawsuits to go forward. That is, they let a civil lawsuit go forward only when the case is compelling (to the judge’s conscience) and must go forward.
jihad3tracker says
AMERICA’S BEST LOVED ARTIST — BOB ROSS — AVOIDED THE PROBLEM BY EARLY LOVING INTERVENTION . . .
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=BobRoss+painting+squirrel+video&FORM=HDRSC3#view=detail&mid=382D0FEEF5A7E5EDA256382D0FEEF5A7E5EDA256
MAYBE BOBBY SPENCER COULD SEND A BOTTLE OF MAMMAL MILK TO REZA ASLAN AND NATHAN LEAN ?
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Champ says
“Bobby” Spencer? …I’m all for mocking the other two guys you mentioned, but certainly not Robert.
Jay Boo says
BBC will of course interview all the local squirrels first to get their side of the story and see if they have any grievances that need to be addressed.
Peter says
This is actually more symbolic.
The Eastern Grey Squirrel (photo) is an “invasive species” introduced from North America (formerly British colonies), and it is displacing the indigenous (and less aggressive) red squirrels of Europe.
Muslims, given the predatory doctrines of Islam and the aggressive behaviors they engender among the faithful, are also invasive and set on displacing the native non-Muslim populations of Europe.
Don McKellar says
This gives the story a great deal of poignancy. One that is completely lost on most idiots, but it is very strong in its symbolic power. An invasive species, indeed!
Mirren10 says
I live in the country, surrounded by squirrels, and none of them have ever been aggressive to me !
I expect this particular squirrel was bitten by a mohammedan, hence it decided to go and bite and scratch some kufr kiddies. 🙂
Mirren10 says
On a more serious note, as AM says in the first post, the culture of ”suing for compo” is now endemic in this country, ( a charming little custom we copied from the US) and if even one of the children got a scratch, its parents would no doubt sue the school.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the headmistress isn’t even now calling her solicitor, and then arranging for ‘counselling’ for the poor traumatised, stressed children. (another ridiculous custom we have copied from the US).
This isn’t just something endemic to Britain, if you google stress/compensation/counselling, you’ll come up with all sorts of utterly risible and ridiculous cases, across the world.
Mirren10 says
“We talked to the children at an assembly the following day to say some times animals can be aggressive and a bit bad-tempered and what to do if that happens.”
Oh, for f**ks sake …
Kepha says
Mirren10, I’m all for educating small kids about animal behavior.
While an avowed carnivore who’s even eaten dog, cat, and palm civet in my travels and would never say “no” to venison if offered by a friend who hunts, I like people’s pets, would own a cat if my wife weren’t allergic to them, and find both livestock and wildlife interesting at safe distances (varies with species). When I was a kid in the eastern USA, while dogs were kept fenced in or on leashes, cats roamed freely, as did squirrels, woodchucks, rabbits, bats, mice, raccoons, and opossums. All of us knew which neighborhood cats were mean, and which were friendly (both kinds would often hunt and expose their humans to dead rodents or birds); and a few times rabies went around from raccoons and bats. Having raised cats as a kid, I know that there’s little humans can do about the behavior of individual animals of certain species. Further, any female mammal can be very aggressive to any perceived threat to her young (which can often be hidden where people least expect them)..
Sure, we’re too litigious in this day and age, but I’m also for commonsensical things to keep children from getting themselves scratched or bitten.
Kepha says
Indeed, these eastern grey squirrels (sciurus carolinensis) is a far more aggressive beast than the european red squirrel (sciurus vulgaris), and it is an invasive species in the UK, having been introduced from the eastern USA. The cats I had when I was a kid used to prey on them frequently, and sometime dragged them into the house dead. I used to live in southern Illinois, where the ranges of the eastern grey squirrel overlapped with that of the fox squirrel (sciurus niger). The latter were bigger, colored differently, and preferred habitat with relatively little understory vegetation, while the eastern greys thrived in woods with lots of underbrush. On the local university campus, the eastern greys would go to the outdoor eating area of the student union building and aggressively beg from human diners, who thought them “cute”. They did get kind of fat, and probably would’ve made good eating, but you weren’t allowed to molest wildlife there.
Had I been the teacher in question, I would’ve evacuated the kids in a New York minute (no offense meant to London or other large British city). Squirrels, along with all other furry critters, can and do get hydrophobia. While the eastern grey squirrel can be pretty aggressive, aggressive behavior towards something as big as a human child suggests something could be wrong–like hydrophobia. As for taking an airgun to the thing, great idea; but you might not have those around a school, lest a kid put out another kid’s eye with one.
Neil says
Surely if an ‘aggressive intruder’ violates your territory the only response is to meet it with a combination of speed, surprise and violence of action. Unfortunately in the UK today we would rather negotiate with the ‘squirrel’, and offer concession after concession in the hope that it won’t scratch anyone. Or blow up any busses and tube trains or behead any defenceless old ladies or unarmed, off-duty soldiers. Damn those squirrels.
BlueRaven says
I think this squril is an Israelie spy, that ended up in a wrong place.
cs says
I recognize it, it works for the mosad, the zionist entity with many eyes…
Don’t play, they may have said that for real.
Mirren10 says
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608017354879139999&pid=15.1&H=150&W=160
🙂
Fr. Basil` says
When I was a little boy, my parents and I came home from shopping, and a squirrel screamed and chattered at us.
Dad called animal control who shot the squirrel. It turned out to be rabid.
I don’t blame the school for being cautious.
Know Thy Enemy says
I think you are missing the psychological effect on children. When you evacuate a playground because of a aggressive squirrel, the children learn to be cowards. You can take it for granted that this is not going to be the only incident in their childhood where they are taught to flee and hide in mommy’s skirt. (The lawsuit culture only encourages such behaviour.)
So is it any wonder that UK men sit at home while their minor girls get raped by the thousands!
We wonder why in any conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims, the authorities put pressure on non-Muslims to back off. The fact is that ruling authorities do not like conflicts and want them ended ASAP and any way possible. They know that the conflict will end if they can make either party back off. They threaten and intimidate non-Muslims because they know it was them who were fleeing and hiding from squirrels when young, and know that their intimidation will work for sure and fast.
Mirren10 says
”I think you are missing the psychological effect on children. When you evacuate a playground because of a aggressive squirrel, the children learn to be cowards”
Exactly.
We are raising a whole generation of utter wimps, with a huge sense of unearned entitlement.
Neil Jennison says
We don’t have rabies in the UK.
gerard says
Reminds me of the Churchill quote:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog,…
EvaGirl says
Rodents are rarely found to have rabies and squirrels rarely chase after and scratch people. Rabies may be rare in the UK but the government has a web site addressing exposure https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/rabies-risk-assessment-post-exposure-treatment-managementxposure.
Brian Hoff says
UK does have rabies it is found all over the world it is found in animal an people can get rabies too. Than heavy metal bandmember bit the head off of than bat than fan fhrow at him he tought it was than plastic bat it was than realy bat that have rabies. For the next 14 day twice aday I believe he have to get rabies shot no matter where in the world as they where on than world tour. The band after allow no animal in the cornet place expect for seeing eye dog.
Neil Jennison says
No, you are wrong. There is no rabies in the UK. We are an island, we keep it out from the continent by quarantine laws and vaccination passports for animals.
Mirren10 says
”We don’t have rabies in the UK.”
We do now. It’s called islam.
Myxlplik says
This would be known as the infamous squirrel of Cave Caerbannog, nothing short of the Holy Hangranade of Anioch can slay such a foul tempered beast.
gravenimage says
Just what I was thinking!
Jay Boo says
Sometimes the squirrel is the anti-jihadist
— Rocky & Bullwinkle cartoon (US)
Rocky the squirrel always tried to do was morally right
Yet, Bullwinkle moose always managed to jeopardize both their lives.
Was Bullwinkle a rash liberal politician acting on a PC whim
or was he just another violent Leftist convert Moose – lim?
Neil Jennison says
Yes, the aggressive “I will sue you” culture we have imported from the USA coupled to the aggressive health and safety culture causes things like this….a small primary school with a head-teacher out of his/her depth and risk averse because of the culture produces a story like this.
It is nonsense….it says more about the individual in charge than the laws in Britain.
I am a great fan of Robert Spencer. I have watched almost all of his speeches on You Tube and he has utterly convinced me of the truth about Islam. I think he is completely correct in his views, his Catholic Faith shines through, he hates what Islam teaches he doesn’t hate “Muslims”. (Unlike some of the more unpleasant people who post on this site.) I agree with that sentiment entirely. I understand he is desperate to wake up those that govern our western democracies to the obvious dangers of Islam and Islamic immigration……But I do not understand his constant attacks on Britain……some are fair enough……though they usually apply to the US and the rest of Europe too…….but some, like this one are just ridiculous.
cs says
Come on Neil, I live in Britain, it is absolutely fair, we are sleeping really, I talk to native Britons, they do not how to react to the situation, it is bad really.
eduardo odraude says
He’s not attacking all of Britain, I think. He’s attacking most of the Brit elites, who keep Britain heading toward suicide.
Myxlplik says
Neil,
Robert was banned from your country for speaking the truth about Islam, if anything it is more ridiculous getting banned from a “free society” for saying this, “… it [Islam] is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society because media and general government unwillingness to face the sources of Islamic terrorism these things remain largely unknown.”
I get upset by England bashing too, but the story about this nasty squirrel is less silly than the reality of what happened to Robert. He can say whatever he wants to make his point, others who bash the English I have a problem with.
jewdog says
Those Brits should grow a pair, since I think that squirrel has hidden their nuts.
Kepha says
That was two-thirds of a pun: P-U!
Sorry. Couldn’t help myself.
In any case, I hope everyone’s feeling bright-eyed and bushy-tailed!
Neil Jennison says
Oh, and by the way, as someone said earlier, as the grey squirrel is an foreign invader is considered vermin and can be legally (humanely) shot and eaten if desired.
Mirren10 says
” … eaten if desired.” ?
Blech.
Kepha says
Now, just a gosh-durn minute, there! Sure, as an East Coast kid, I absorbed the idea that squirrels are rodents and rodents are rats; but as a I got to know wider areas of my own country and other countries, I met very fine people for whom several squirrels stewed with the right herbs and vegetables made a good meal. They assured me it was good eating, and I have no doubt they’re right. The same sorts of folks introduced me to venison, which my wife and I love, so I’m inclined to trust those people’s judgment when it comes to wild foods.
Now, I would draw the line at Jihadi gebap. I heard the reason why they’re sure it was Osama Bin Laden they got was that shortly after they dumped the body overboard, a large cloud of dead fish and crabs floated to the surface of the Arabian Sea
Bezelel says
Kepha, There are as many recipes for squirrel as Bubba had for shrimp.I was looking to see if anyone had made reference to Monty Python to quote ” HE’S GOT FANGS”
Darren says
Here. It has fangs!
somehistory says
Quote: “‘It is very uncommon for a squirrel to be a little aggressive.”
Not really *very uncommon*…it can depend on where the squirrel has been living, whether or not it has had a lot of contact with people, been fed by some, and other things.If a squirrel has been given handouts and was not getting any from the children, it might have been seeking food.
But her comment about the *uncommonness* of the action is kind of like what some people say about those who practice islam…saying it is uncommon for them to be jihadists. It’s only a *fringe* of squirrels that become “a little aggressive”. It’s only a fringe of muslims that wish to wage jihad.
joeb says
A playground I used to play at in the park in london as a child has had some interesting changes made when I took my nephew.
any of the apparatus that was fun has been removed, of course. All the apparatus there is has been padded on any available bar or edge.
And the tarmac ground has been replaced with springy rubber!
Just crazy…
Mirren10 says
”any of the apparatus that was fun has been removed, of course. All the apparatus there is has been padded on any available bar or edge.
And the tarmac ground has been replaced with springy rubber!”
Yes. It’s like those ridiculous geeky helmets and kneepads that ‘progressive’ parents make their kids wear when riding a bike.
The slightest scratch, graze or bump is treated as if it was life threatening.
I fell off swings, slides, bikes, ponies and horses, many a time, and collected the usual bumps, bruises, grazes etc. My parents didn’t carry on like wimps about it, it was just a part of growing up.
Wellington says
Dealing effectively with aggressive squirrels or aggressive Muslims is a difficult, even futile, endeavor if arid legal considerations trump common sense, which quite sadly is the lot of one Western nation after another these days. Just part of the reason why I call the times we live in the Age of Nonsense. There have been darker times in man’s history than these but none sillier.
gerard says
“There have been darker times in man’s history than these..”
I’m sure about that..
Wellington says
Yes, but the rest of that sentence of mine, gerard, is the best part.
gerard says
Oops! What I meant to write was: “I’m NOT sure about that!”
Darren says
You are right, the current environment in the west is worthy of a Monty Python movie. We are indeed in the age of sillyness, maybe it’s a symptom of a civilization in decline.
ECAW says
What bloody nonsense! This is a trashy bit of foolishness, probably exaggerated, from a trashy rag. The response of the school is no different than it would be in any country which has imported the sueing culture from the US along with other cultural treasures like commercialised Halloween and now something called Black Friday which encourages people’s crudest materialist instincts.
The fact that Robert Spencer stoops to such a ridiculous level to feed his all too obvious animosity towards Britain is painful to witness. How sad to see someone I took to be a great man display such feet of clay.
gerard says
I take Robert’s words re UK as words of warning rather than animosity.
Champ says
I agree, Gerard …this is a word of warning. Sadly, Robert is right.
Wellington says
Well, ECAW, no one from America was holding a gun at another nation’s collective throat forcing that nation to adopt “the sueing culture from the US” or a “commercialised Halloween” or “Black Friday madness”—–or even, God forbid, establishing a McDonald’s in a nation like the UK.
You know, America gets blamed for so much, some of which, though I would argue not much, is deserved. But blaming America extensively for the entirely unforced adoption of American culture and norms is, quite simply, a pathetic attempt to exculpate one’s own nation’s failings about this or that or the other thing. And this too: No great power in history has expended the blood of its own soldiers for the freedom of others more so than has America, nor has any polity forgiven debts to other polities more so than America has. I suggest you factor this into your take on America next time. Also, Robert Spencer has never spared criticizing his own nation for any foolish actions which it has taken. NEVER. Try factoring all this into your next assessment of Spencer and America, that is if you can.
Kepha says
Wellington, it’s my understanding that way back in the early 20th century, squirrel skin coats were quite the fad among the smart set on prestigious American college campuses, to be followed by raccoon skin coats. It was in imitation of these fads (before American troops came to Europe in large numbers) that both sciurus carolinensis and procyon lotor were introduced to the Old World.
But, if it’s any consolation to our kinfolk over in Europe, rural Americans assure me that both squirrels and raccoons are good eating. My recommendation, then, is trap the things and eat them.
Darren says
Adding a bit of humor every once in awhile isn’t a bad thing. The U.K has become a Monty Python skit. I understand the U.S is no better, I won’t get up on a soapbox, but you have to admit the story is pretty funny.
Tnt says
Squirrel jihad lol! Heck even the poor squirrel is trying to warn them they are being invaded. Wake up!!! or I soon won’t have a nut to collect for winter harvest !
gerard says
If only UK were as cautious about the real threat from Mohammadan Hydrophobia as they are from non-rabid squirrels!
ManchesterLad says
I think this post is rather squirrel-ist.
sheik yermami says
There you go. It is a jihad after all: the aggressive, larger American squirrel outbreeds and kills the smaller red indigenous squirrels.
If you see them bow to Mecca or sport a zebiba you know the jig is up!
Darren says
I never knew your squirrels declared jihad. I guess it ‘s so bad over there even animals are declaring jihad and declaring fatwas.
duh_swami says
There has been a family of about 4 squirrels living on the roof. I built a feeder on the deck rail and we feed them sunflower seeds and peanuts. This has been going on for several years. They are used to us coming and going and don’t panic or run. I’m not sure if they appreciate the free food, but they never complain about it.
St. Croix says
It just seems so cock-eyed. To have such a reaction to one squirrel (probably fed by humans and therefore aggressively seeking more treats–which is a good reason not to feed wildlife) while gangs of Muslim men have been raping girls and yet no one is even allowed to use the word “Muslim” and “crime” in the same sentence? The squirrel incident might be some kind of cultural psychological transference where petty things take on the projected fears which people are not allowed to express towards the real threats. A kind of scapegoat.
At least the squirrel is still being called a squirrel. Are we sure it was not an “Asian” or a “youth” as may be the case?
Darren says
It’s so bad in Eurostan even the squirrels are converting to islam since they see the Eurostanians as such easy marks.
duh_swami says
A few years ago Iran arrested 14 squirrels for spying. I think they executed them after a quick sharia trial.
jay says
Do the squirrels make the chipmunks pay jizya nuts?
eduardo odraude says
This is no joke. Squirrels have killed people.
marc says
that is good
Champ says
LOL!! ..squirrelageddon 😀
Darren says
You think that is bad this man was killed by a beaver. You don’t really hear of beavers attacking people.
This was even caught on tape.
Bezelel says
I’ve known several girls that like to shoot beavers.
Darren says
Dear Mr. Spencer Please watch this video, it is a conference and the man speaking isn’t some kook or fringe element but someone involved with intel. I am sure you have heard about the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, but this man spells everything out in language even a child could understand. A poster on this site linked it, so I can’t take credit for it, I would simply like you to either run a story or comment on the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, an organization that all 57 islamic heads of state are a part of and ratified. I know you are a busy man, but please watch that video. Until today I have never even heard of this organization and treaty, and though not nearly as knowledgeable as you or the vast majority of posters here on islam, I still thought myself somewhat in the know. After watching that video I see I have a lot more to learn. This video is truthfully alarming. I humbly request that you watch this video if you have the time and do a story on this, it is that alarming.
somehistory says
Thanks for sharing the link. Some of it I knew about, but there is a lot I did not know. Now I do and it’s all important.
Know Thy Enemy says
@ECAW and other Brits who are appalled at Robert Spencer’s attitude towards the British,
As you can tell from responses to your posts, Robert is not the only one who has formed such attitude. The British men (ALL the non-Muslim ones) have lost respect in our eyes. It is natural for men to lose respect for those men who fail to keep their women safe. This is how men have evolved over the eons.
Osama Bin Laden was a terrorist and a mass-murderer but he was correct in one of his observations – He said “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature, they will like the strong horse”. This is true! What this statement also says is that people do NOT care much about the weak horse. They tie him up somewhere away so it does not bother them while they take pictures with the strong horse.
If you (Brits) want to be respected again, you will have to EARN that respect. You can earn it by making sure your women are safe again. Of course it is easier said than done. The Muslims and the monkeys (the Govt, the Left, and even the feminists), will viciously attack you if you try to get in the way of predators going after your women.
So how to do it? Forming white-nationalist groups is out of the question because the above mentioned monkeys clearly have an upper hand on white voices. Forming Christian groups is also going to be a waste of time since the monkeys have contained Christianity so well…. it is as if they have their boots on Christian necks; There is a genocide going on against Christians in the Islamic world, the monkeys turn a blind eye to it, and yet the Christians of the west are unable to do anything- that is how well the monkeys have suppressed Christian voices! And do I need to talk about how helpful the pope has been?
So what to do?
I can give you my two cents- Join Sikhism! (Read this in some more detail here). As a Sikh you will have the status of a minority, thereby having an upper hand on the govt, the Left, and maybe even the feminists. Now you will be able to fight the predators without having to deal with the monkeys; all you would need is some balls.
Actually, growing balls is the main purpose behind joining Sikhism. Sikhism (Khalsa to be more accurate) does not *recommend* that you fight oppression, it requires you to do that, even if it means losing everything you have including your life and your good name.
Do that and people will again be talking of UK with respect; you would not even have to ask!
Kepha says
Better yet, dust off an old British (Scottish, actually) book entitled _Lex Rex, or, the Law and the King_ by Samuel Rutherford (1644). Rutherford was a theological and political spokesman for the Scots Covenanters who wrote his book to justify the rebellion against Charles I, political supremacy of law, and political compact. It was well received by the English Parliament men of the time, too. You might note some similarities to what Locke wrote in _Two Treatises_ about a generation later, but keep in mind that Locke grew up in a Puritan home. Rutherford is perhaps the best representative of what is called the Monarchomach (“strikers of monarchs”) tradition in early modern political thought. Lest you think it’s only a Calvinist tradition, the Spanish School of Salamanca was also famous for a similar doctrine.
As for Sikhism, I’ve met plenty of Sikhs whom I’ve liked and I certainly respect their martial tradition, but I wonder if they’d want converts who don’t believe a single line of the Granth.
Know Thy Enemy says
Hi Kepha, you point out two different things in your post, so I shall respond to them separately-
“Better yet, dust off an old British (Scottish, actually) book entitled _Lex Rex, or, the Law and the King_ by Samuel Rutherford (1644)…..”
I am sure that western societies, including British, have had similar doctrines because after all, men are men and their relationships with those under their protection have been same everywhere. The problem with adopting European origin doctrines is that the adopters will still be seen as European origin “white group” or “white nationalist group” etc, and the powerful Left will easily render them powerless.
The Left is an enemy- a special kind of enemy. They are our own people (non-Muslims) in there. They are naive and deluded, but they are ours. We cannot treat them the same way as one shall treat Islam-followers. The Left however does not have any such sympathy for White or western or Christian (WWC). They will be very happy to see WWC disappear from this world today.
Another thing that we need to keep in mind about the Left is that they are very powerful and influential. WWC simply have no chance against them.
The Left will see anything of Western origin as a WWC, will treat it as their enemy, and will neutralize it in no time. We HAVE TO respect this power that the Left wields.
But the Left also has a weakness- they hesitate to go after minorities. When whites convert to Islam, no Lefties criticize him/her. When a white convert (to Islam) accuses the society of racism, bigotry, and xenophobia, the Left sings the same song.
Be smart and beat the Left with their own shoe. Join Sikhism, which is not of western origin, nor of white origin, nor has anything to do with Christianity. Become a Sikh and in the media call yourself a minority. Right there you will have the upper hand on the Left! If we are lucky, we may even have people from the Left join us, thereby decreasing their numbers.
Next will be Muslims. We all know how the Muslims ought to be taken care of. If we are smart, we shall be careful to maintain an upper hand on the Left while we kick Muslim ass.
Bottomline: Joining Sikhism will protect you from the Left, a protection that WWC do not have.
Know Thy Enemy says
“As for Sikhism, I’ve met plenty of Sikhs whom I’ve liked and I certainly respect their martial tradition, but I wonder if they’d want converts who don’t believe a single line of the Granth.”
Kepha, Sikhism does NOT belong to the Sikhs, it actually belongs to the Gurus. Sikh literally means “student” or “learner”, and Guru literally means “teacher”. Anyone can become a Sikh (student) of the Gurus, and no one has the authority to stop him/her from doing so! (And the Gurus did not ban anyone from learning from them.)
Students don’t ‘believe’! They learn and keep an open mind. They ‘believe’ only what they themselves have strong reason or feeling to believe in. (I should note that I am not talking from point of view of science here). The same is true of Sikhs.
However when a student joins school, s/he accepts whatever the teacher teaches him/her. It is only after a few years of learning and understanding, s/he begins to separate the wheat from the chaff, and add his/her own understandings to what s/he learnt from the teacher. Even after decades of learning however, the teacher remains his/her ‘teacher’, and everything he taught remains respectful in the student’s eyes, even if s/he no longer ‘believes’ in it! The same is true of Sikh, the Guru, and the teachings (Granth Sahib in this case).
Hence, whoever joins Sikhism, will HAVE TO accept whatever Guru Granth Sahib teaches. If the teaching does not make sense to him/her, s/he will still have to respect it. The respect does not have to be for the teaching itself, but for the Gurus’ intentions which were pure. (The Gurus were honest and never called themselves “messenger of God” or “enlightened” etc. It was the people who respected them and called them so).
Needless to say, if one is a steadfast Christian or Jew, it would be impractical for him/her to join Sikhism. If you read the link that I linked to in my original comment, I have pointed out that the beliefs of Christianity/Judaism are very different from Indian spirituality, and are mostly incompatible with the teachings of Sikhism. It is like oil and water- they both have their own attributes, one is not bad neither is other, but they cannot mix. An Atheist however, can join Sikhism because when one becomes a student, s/he can temporarily put his Atheism away and collect it back when s/he is done learning. S/he can still respect as Guru those, whose intentions were pure.
It is only after a 1-2 years of learning and understanding the Guru Granth Sahib’s message, a Sikh reorganizes his “beliefs”, and begins to live by those [newly reorganized] beliefs. However, a) s/he still keeps an open mind and accepts anything new s/he learns [that is beneficial], and b) s/he maintains high respect for the teachings of Granth Sahib throughout life. This respect is not necessarily towards the message in the Granth Sahib, but towards the Guru. For example, I do not believe in the philosophy of Karma even though it is part of Gurus’ teachings. Despite this, I highly respect the Guru, bow down to Granth Sahib whenever I go to the Gurdwara, and respectfully sit through the session even if they are talking about Karma.
Hope this helped.
abad says
Dear UK:
Leave the innocent rodents alone and start kicking out the porcine Muslims. Thank you.
Champ says
Bravo!!!
Richard Ashton says
I just want to state that squirrels are a creature of peace and that this violent terrorist masquerading as a squirrel in no way reflects the nature of true squirrels in the squirrel community.
Wolfgang says
Squirrels are soooooo tasty done right…..
Sean’s squirrel hunt & Brunswick Stew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DVkc87w3ww
Cooking Squirrel With KVUSMC Southern Style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI4SZujyWTk
Grilled Squirrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpj2lei7uSI
You wimpy Brits are scared of a lil ole Squirrel ! ……get a slingshot geez ! how hard can it be ?
now where was I ? oh yeah ! mouthwatering squirrel stew….
Aardvark says
Wild animals are normally afraid of humans – with good reason, tasty stew being one of them!
Any wild animal that doesn’t act ‘normally’, such as being unusually unafraid or aggressive, should be treated with caution. We may not have rabies (officially) in the UK at the moment, but with the massive influx of immigrants from lands where rabies is common you can’t be too careful…
Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the symptoms of rabies and those of Islam?
Darren says
Churchill even said islam in a man is as dangerous as rabies in a dog after all. Considering Churchill was one of the greatest western leaders in modern time, that means a lot coming from him.
zulu says
OT
Extremist preacher linked to Lee Rigby killers justifies murder of women and children who oppose ISIS in chilling Facebook message
Omar Bakri Muhammad used Facebook to speak out against ISIS’ enemies
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2854604/Extremist-preacher-linked-radicalisation-Lee-Rigby-killers-attempts-justify-murder-women-children-oppose-ISIS-chilling-Facebook-message.html#ixzz3KWssgniY
CogitoErgoSum says
Here’s a video I found on YouTube of a somewhat similar situation involving a squirrel. I think the comments from viewers of the video are quite interesting also. Personally, I think it’s best to be cautious with any wild animal that seems aggressive. Fear is a normal reaction to the unknown. Knowledge is the key to overcoming fear and determining a proper response in the future. Just so, the key to finding the proper response to Islam is to gain as much knowledge of Islam as possible. If more people in the West (especially our leaders) would do just that, I am convinced a response much different from the current one would be forthcoming. Time will tell.
Champ says
2 cute!! 😀
Betty says
obama has plenty of knowledge of islam. so he has no excuse. he is just trying to follow mo’s teachings sense he is muslim.
Anon says
Wow, really funny picture, he’s “breaking in” look out!
ECAW says
Know Thy Enemy – What a great, and surprising, post. I’m glad I decided to read all of them.
First of all let me say that I ache with shame at what has become of my countrymen, so demoralised and bemused by the monkeys as you call them. But let me say there’s nothing special about Britain in this. It is happening everywhere in direct proportion to the number of Muslims in any society and the loss of indigenous self belief, again eroded by the monkeys. We look at Sweden and shake our heads. Americans look at us and shake their heads but the same is happening there, just less so because there are fewer Muslims so far.
Though not a believer of any kind I have the greatest respect for Sikhism, a benign religion which I believe was created as a resistance against Muslim oppression. I know when grooming gangs started happening Sikhs took matters into their own hands and the authorities looked the other way. But it wouldn’t work for me because I would have to be brown as well as Sikh for the judge to think to himself “Better just not go there”.
For the likes of me, the kind of justice we can expect is the kind meted out recently to four men who threw a pig’s head into a mosque car park two days after the Woolwich atrocity. They got from 7 to 14 months in gaol. For us there is one group showing spirit, demonized in Britain and cold shouldered here, the EDL. I expect you know that they have a Sikh division. I would love to see greater cooperation with Sikhs, Hindus and Blacks who should all have reason to resist Islam. Indeed, if what we’re told about moderate Muslims was true, then there should be Muslims also supporting EDL demos. You would at least expect ex-Muslims to support us but they don’t, which appears suspiciously ambivalent to me.
Know Thy Enemy says
Let me start by saying that my suggestion to join Sikhism is not for you alone, but for every British who cares enough to make his/her country safe from the intruders. Now….
“But it wouldn’t work for me because I would have to be brown as well as Sikh ………”
The chance is very high that it WILL work. There have been many cases where converts to Islam accuse the authorities of being racist and get away with it even though they are not brown! If it worked for them it should work for non-brown Sikhs too!
Also when you join Sikhism, you will no longer be thinking only of yourself. You will be thinking of the whole group. Whatever the judge decides for one member, will be used by the group to *strengthen* the group. And the stronger the group is, the safer your women are going to be!
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“For us there is one group showing spirit, demonized in Britain and cold shouldered here, the EDL. I expect you know that they have a Sikh division.”
The problem with EDL is that it is seen as a white, British (nationalist) group, and THAT is the reason why the powerful Left is successful in demonizing them as ‘racists’ and ‘bigots’, even thoug EDL have a Sikh division.
The whole point behind joining Sikhism is so that you are seen as a minority, and not as white, western, or Christian (WWC). If “to be seen as minority” were not important, I would have recommended following Kepha’s suggestions.
Those Sikhs who join EDL are not smart at all….. they put themselves into a losing position right at the start. The smart thing to do is to do it the other way round. It is the non-browns who need to join Sikhism…. then you will be in a much stronger position (since Sikhs are seen as minority and the monkeys hesitate to go after minorities). Of course joining Sikhism is going to be a lot more work than is to join EDL. You will have to learn all about Sikhism and will actually have to start living as a Sikh.
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“Though not a believer of any kind…..”
I mentioned in my post that I linked to, that the forces of change are very powerful and will not stop until you change. If you don’t take some action, you WILL end up becoming a believer anyway (of Islam unfortunately), or will be paying jizya. I am not sure if the British can stop this force through EDL which is easy target for the monkeys. I also mentioned that joining Sikhism will not only satisfy that powerful force (of change), but your loved ones will be safe once again.
Now you’re going to say “oh but I will end up as a believer either way”, the correct answer is that yes you will but….. being a Sikh believer is not remotely the same thing as being a Muslim believer. I mentioned in my response to Kepha that even though Sikhs supposedly “believe”, they are actually students and learners, not “believers”. The religion actually encourages you to learn from outside sources too, which means that whatever you consider to be truth(s) now as a non-believer, you CAN live by those truths even after you join Sikhism. In other words, you have little to lose and a lot to gain. Of course for the initial 1-2 years, you will have to live as a believing Sikh until you have understood things enough so that you can tell how to add your current beliefs into what you have learnt.
Bottomline: It is a hell lot wiser to become a Sikh believer than to end up as a Muslim believer, or to pay jizya.
gravenimage says
Know Thy Enemy, I am fine with anyone converting to Sikhism if that is what they truly personally wish to do.
But for Britons as a specific strategy for opposing Islam? I think not.
What Britons, and all Westerners, have to do is to have enough pride to defend their own faith and culture—as long as they swallow the line that to do so is “politically incorrect” and “Islamophobic”, then they are going to be at a disadvantage when it comes to violent, supremacist Islam.
In that way, your “solution”, I’m afraid, is just more of the same.
Know Thy Enemy says
@gravenimage, The problem is that a significant % of Britons swallow what you described. Many others have same attitude towards their culture as Karen Armstrong. Another significant % are deluded and/or apathetic.
A small percentage of British do care about their culture though. However they will end up suffering the same fate as the apathetic ones for the simple reason that they live among them. My message and my “solution” is directed at these caring British. I am very confident that as Sikhs, they will not only be able to avoid most of the consequences that others are going to suffer, but also save their culture and traditions.
I want to point out again that one does not “convert” to Sikhism; one *joins* Sikhism. Sikhs are literally “students” and Gurus are literally “teachers”. You don’t “convert” to a teacher’s class, you *join* the teacher’s class. After one is done learning from the teacher, s/he can decide to keep what makes sense and refuse to keep what doesn’t. One can refuse to keep the entire teaching if nothing makes sense. Or one can add outside material (that makes sense to the student) to what s/he learnt from the teacher.
As you can tell, this is very different from *converting* to Christianity or Islam. There is great flexibility that one has under Sikhism. One can even be an Atheist and still be a Sikh! And that is why I said there is little to lose and lot to gain.
Of course it is totally up to the person whether s/he wants to join or not. I give this suggestion because I sense that those few who care about their country will be able to save their culture, without suffering what the PCs are going to.
gravenimage says
I do realize that you do not technically convert to Sikhism, KYE—and as I said, I am fine with anyone embracing Sikhism who has an interest in it.
But as long as Britons—or any Westerners—feel that they have to reject their own culture, then we are going to be vulnerable to the very aggressive and violent creed of Islam.
Know Thy Enemy says
gravenimage, I am actually very sure that there are plenty of Britons who are proud of their culture, except that they have to face the west-hating Left and the progressives. The Left is not only powerful and influential but is also very skilled at doing propaganda and demonizing those it hates.
How do you propose the proud among the British successfully stand up to the Left?
Brian Hoff says
Those four criminal got what they deservice fot thrown than pig head in than mosque parking lot the judge is being too easy on then.
gravenimage says
Brian Hoff wrote:
Those four criminal got what they deservice (sic) fot (sic) thrown (sic) than (sic) pig head in than (sic) mosque parking lot the judge is being too easy on then (sic).
…………………….
Brian Hoff—really, “DefenderofIslam”—is likely referring to this case:
http://pamelageller.com/2014/11/uk-four-jailed-sentenced-3-years-for-leaving-a-bag-in-mosque-parking-lot-with-a-pigs-head.html/
They were given *three years in prison* for something that was no worse than littering.
And notice that the illiterate “Brian Hoff” cannot even keep his point straight in a single sentence—did they get what they “deservice”, or was the judge being too easy on “then”?
Of course, in Dar-al-Islam they would have been torn apart by a ravening Mohammedan mob, the homes and businesses of their Infidel community looted and burned, and their loved ones raped and slaughtered.
I imagine that is more “DefenderofIslam’s” idea of “justice”…
voegelinian says
“You would at least expect ex-Muslims to support us but they don’t, which appears suspiciously ambivalent to me.”
Yep, the CEMB thinks the EDL are all a bunch of “racist” soccer hooligans (and in addition they nurse anti-British and anti-Western animosity that seems to have percolated into their hearts & minds from the Islam they supposedly left behind).
scott says
for god sake can people who are in charge of my nation get a backbone!
Pr126 says
I think the fear is from litigation, should something go wrong with the rodent.
The Buffster says
Yeah, I think that’s most likely it. Fear of litigation, or fear of the off-chance that the squirrel might transmit some disease.
It would be more interesting if the piece explained what “unusually aggressive” means. Just what was it doing? Running up people’s legs? Chasing them angrily? Acting like an animal with rabies? (Can a squirrel get rabies? I know raccoons can.) Or was it just acting like a tame squirrel, coming up to kids and wanting to play or be fed?
“Aggressive” might mean it was on the attack, or it might mean it was just used to human interaction and wanted some. (Maybe a neighbour has made friends with it.)
Tommo says
Give it a rest!
This has nothing to do with being wimps or being frightened of a rampant squirrel.
The fear is of expensive litigation if a child gets injured while at school. The litigation culture was imported from the US by greedy lawyers.
Darren says
What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? A good start. *Rim Shot*
Barbara says
I was thinking a Louieville slugger was needed, – – – batter up!
Darren says
Tough crowd tonight, I can’t get no respect. On a side note no one has ever tried killing me with a bat yet, guns knives and bricks yes, bats would be something new. I am curious though why so angry?
Wolfgang says
Cold steel smasher……to ruin your day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w85mkLwICE
or……….
george whyte says
Doctors at Britain’s first specialist clinic for child victims of female genital mutilation have revealed its youngest patient was three years old.
And still not one person has been prosecuted for mutilating women.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/fgm-cli…
BC says
Many of the commenters today sneering at the British on the basis of one trivial event are just the same
as the ones in UK who go to town on Americans whenever there is some similar story about America.
Both are truly pathetic individuals.
You big husky macho Americans would probably have reached for your gun and blasted the squrrel to smithereens.
Darren says
I would have found the squirrel interesting and tried to pet him. I was once in the city where I live and walking by a public library when a curious squirrel approached me. I pet the squirrel for a good minute, he seemed to enjoy it, then he went on his way. Kind of like how recently I was walking and found myself surrounded by a colony of wild cats. Two of the kitties were friendly enough that I pet them. I’ve always been an animal lover though, and maybe the animals sensed that who knows. I’ve always enjoyed the beauty of nature though.
Softly Bob says
Brits are not scared of squirrels.
Unfortunately their Liberal overlords are.
Darren says
They are more afraid of a pack of feral lawyers I would believe. Packs of feral lawyers can leave even the most brave amongst us shaking in fear.
Ashley says
Feeding squirrels, especially baby squirrels, is a big no-no. Squirrels will quickly associate humans with food and act accordingly.
A juvenile squirrel that the locals had been feeding for several months turned on a little girl as she was munching on a bag of chips on a park bench. Took a chunk out of her little face. The squirrel was subsequently trapped, destroyed, and determined not to have rabies. The incident inspired our state Audubon Society to issue a warning against hand-to-mouth feeding of young squirrels.
So, to be fair, I’m not sure this is the greatest illustration of the Islam threat. I would be wary of an aggressive squirrel, especially around children.
logdon says
Has anyone noticed the name of the headteacher?
Amrit Bal-Richards. Amrit is a Pakistani name.
Know Thy Enemy says
Amrit is a Indian name. Could be either Hindu or Sikh. There is also a [small] chance that the headteacher is Christian.
girigirihanasu says
Just about lost patience with JW and its continual sneering at the UK. One dhimmi politician barred you from entering the country, ffs get over it.
Mirren10 says
”One dhimmi politician barred you from entering the country, ffs get over it”
Do you really think this is an unimportant issue ? One to be just casually flicked off ?
may and camoron took it upon themselves to ban Robert and Pamela from entering the UK; two people who have done nothing except to speak the truth about what islam teaches, and to report on the atrocities many mohammedans are committing throughout the world, in the name of their religion. Two people who have never advocated violence of any kind, towards anyone.
At the same time, they allowed in a ‘sheik’ who froths at the mouth with genocidal, bloody threats against Jews, Christians, and other non-muslims.
They allow the likes of Choudhary to walk the streets, spewing hatred and violence, and teaching how to commit violence. The murderers of Lee Rigby were this bastard’s effing **disciples**.
And a couple of young people who put some bacon on the door knobs of a mosque get **eighteen months** in prison.
Who the **hell** are camoron and may to decide such issues ? And so **blatantly** one sidedly ?
The reason this traitorous, stinking, shoddy pair of weasels banned Robert and Pamela, was because they were afraid the **mohammedans would riot**. That’s the **only** reason. And they haven’t got the guts, the moral fortitude, to do the right thing, and **imprison the rioters**.
**That** is who is ‘governing’ us.
So, no, I don’t think Robert should ‘get over it’, and neither should you.
girigirhanasu says
It depends what ‘Getting over it’ entails. Certainly, being barred was a big deal, was massively significant, and it pissed me off mightily. However, from that point in time, JW seems to have had the entire UK population in its sights, not just the traitorous political elite and ultra-PC columnists. ‘Getting over it’ to me entails going back to directing the flak only at the people who deserve it, rather than ridiculing an entire nation.
gravenimage says
girigirihanasu wrote:
Just about lost patience with JW and its continual sneering at the UK. One dhimmi politician barred you from entering the country, ffs get over it.
……………………………
Does this mean that you have no problem with peaceful individuals being barred from entering your country because they dare to criticize what ravening Muslims are doing to your nation?
I’m afraid this does not bode well for the idea that you will do anything to defend freedom of expression or oppose Muslim savagery in your own land. Very disturbing.
ECAW says
Yes, I remember seeing pictures of him. He must have been a brave man considering the grief he got. I hope he’s still around (and safe).
ECAW says
I think I’m replying to other posts, and I’m sure the last “input form” said as much, but they appear as stand alone posts. I wonder why.
nothosaur says
It was probably a fear of rabies and lawsuits that caused the evacuation
Gamaliel Isaac says
The English were lily livered cowards long before today. See http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/shelp/appeasementhitler.htm
Oliver Dell says
Remind us again how you fled Vietnam having had the shit beaten out of you by little guys in pajamas and rubber sandals.
Have a look how many wars you have actually won on your own since 1776, very few and all against opponents far far weaker than yourselves.
Oliver says
Mr. Dell–IF NOT FOR THE US– FIGHTING ON TWO FRONTS, YOU LIMEYS WOULD BE SPEAKING GERMAN.
REMEMBER DUNKIRK? IT WAS NOT A VICTORY, BUT A ROUSING DEFEAT AND RETREAT.
How many Brits died defending or protecting the US?
How many THOUSANDS died, to free France, the Benelux nations, and help Britain in WW2? (And WW!, for that matter). (And, by the way, in WW1–your monarch was a first cousin of the Kaiser. Family values?
Tony says
So, the yanks fought on two fronts to win ww2 did they? Us Brits fought in Western Europe, Italy, North Africa, Burma and many other fronts in the far east in addition to guarding convoys and flying endless bombing raids. In all fairness it was the Russians that won ww2 and we need to remember that. Leningrad, North African surrender and Kursk broke the back of the German army, with two of those three goals being scored by the Russians.
Neil Jennison says
Down this route lies madness and division.
Yes, you are right….and as I pointed out earlier the USA didn’t join WW2 until 1941 when Japan attacked them…..they should have helped the UK, France, Poland et al in 1939.
But these points are irrelevant ……we are where we are.
We must work out where to go from here…together……by accepting the truth that Islam is a dangerous evil that is incompatible with freedom and democracy……but also accepting that people are not necessarily evil just because the come from Muslim stock.
voegelinian says
“Islam is a dangerous evil that is incompatible with freedom and democracy……but also accepting that people are not necessarily evil just because the come from Muslim stock.”
This ineptly (or cleverly) makes the issue one of “evil”, rather than danger to our societies.
Oliver says
In my other post-not up yet- ‘ thousands’ refers to AMERICANS
Crixus says
dickhead
Roger says
Actually, the reason I stopped bothering with JW was also the constant sneering at the UK. Particularly since all the articles it writes can be found in equal measure or eirse in the USA.
Lee Rigby? How about the Boston bomber, the Ft Hood shooter, the beltway sniper. Far more Yanks have died at the hands of the islamic retards and funnily enough their second amendment has failed to protect them.
Furthermore you bend over backwards building special washing facilities and prayer rooms in private businesses and well as you school system getting down on all fours to lick the hand of jihadis.
You think your all John Wayne yet really your as scary and able as the milky bar kid.
Using the Daily Mail as a source for anything is always dodgy. Their journalism varies from appalling to outright lies. However in this case the school follow, like all schools, rules designed to stop them being sued. Compensation litigation was yet another shitty American import, along with KFC and McDonald’s all of which we and the rest of the world would be better off without. Even the squirrel is a crappy American import, the grey squirrel is considered a pest and releasing one carrys a £1000 fine. Despite gassing, poisoning and shooting( yes you retards we do have guns we just don’t let any fucking halfwit buy one at the supermarket which explains why we aren’t picking corpses up in the street 24/7) they are still a problem and cause more damage to forests than almost every other animal than deer(yes we have them too snd yes we hunt them)
As for the last poster yes some people wanted to appease Hitler. Some Americans wanted to supply him, such as Henry Ford. Your German Bund wanted to fight on his side and in reality the only reason you entered the war in europe was because Germany declared war on you to show solidarity with Japan. You didn’t save Britain we paid cash for the aid pre 1941 and no we wouldn’t be speaking German because even the krauts acknowledged that invading Britain was impossible because the RN would cut any invasion force to shreds long before it landed. Read a bit of history not something rented from Blockbusters!
Cicero says
I am note with mounting concern the increasing tendency of the Americans and British taking pot shots at each other on this site rather than focussing on the common goal – that of neutralising the Great Satan viz. the Islamic ideology.
Here are an increasing number of articles on Jihad Watch. This should not come as any surprise to,us dear readers since increasing mention on this site of developments in Britain is commensurate to the increasing momentum that Islamization is achieving in UK society.
If one disagrees with an article one should just state the alternative interpretation of the op- ed and some Britishers have already done so on here. However to stoop to. Name calling and taking pot shots at one another cheapens the standard of the debate and drains off our energies which should best be conserved for the Great Struggle
Oliver Dell says
Oh but we haven’t got guns so we’ll all die, is your constant refrain as well as constantly referencing rags like the Daily Mail. It’s like using the National Enquirer as a serious frame of reference ffs! Quite frankly the angle given to this story by JW is the last straw. You come from a nation that suspends kids for biting food into a gun shape, get a grip. You are so far down the liberal slope that it will take twenty years before we catch up.
I think the other poster is correct about Spencer having his ickle feelings hurt.
The Islamic take over of the US is far more advanced. Your president was raised as one, there are many moslem government members, you have suffered far more attacks and deaths. The utter panic that was Boston was hysterical, Even at the height of the troubles and the IRA bombing campaign we British barely stirred. You ran around like headless chickens and hid in your houses. Ironic since one of the biggest sources of revenue for NORAID was the people of Boston.
You’ve passed the patriot act, internment indefinitely without trial amongst others of the most draconian legislation ever seen in the west. Even Putin doesn’t have that sort if power, though he probably has wet dreams about it at night!
But still your not safe and your second amendment has done nothing to protect you……
Neil Jennison says
Oliver Dell has a point. I am not sure I would put it that way, but he has a point.
Surely those of us who comment on Jihad Watch who have recognised the problem – the problem being the teachings of Islam and thus Islamic immigration to the west, should not spend our time arguing about which country is the most craven and pathetic?
I understand Robert Spencer’s frustration with the UK since his ban. It was a ludicrous ban, absolutely indefensible. Perhaps had he been better advised and not come to speak to the English Defence League, then the powers that be would not have found it so easy to ban him? The EDL has a reputation for being a dreadful racist organisation – that decision just played into the hands of the government.
We need people in the UK to understand what Islam teaches, and therefore why it is a danger in all its forms. It doesn’t help to have this truth merely associated far right racists. It makes it easier for the great mass of people to reject it.
girigirihanasu says
Great reply Oliver. I’m very sad to say that I think JW and RS have allowed the crazy UK entry ban to completely cloud their judgment wrt Blighty, pissing off shed-loads Britons in the process. And that Americans mistake our laid back, sang froid attitude for weakness. We’re not lockin’ and loadin’ so we must be cowerin’. Your IRA comparison is spot on. “Keep Calm And Carry On” isn’t just a T-Shirt seller, it’s how the British do things, right up to the wire. It’s at that point that things change…
ACS says
all the British dimwits who go ” I am British eh wot ? ” and carry on about not needing guns, dream on……..yet you complain about Americans owning guns, just a bunch of wimpy fags…….typical whining limey…..hey you buffoons…… you will fight back against Islam will you ? pfffft ……sure you will, when ?….you lot didn’t protest when you were disarmed after Dunblane did you ? or Hungerford ? and so on and so……..you say you ” like it that way “.
Every person on the face of the planet who wishes to leave peacefully has the right to defend themselves and you lot of wimps gave it away. From over the pond, the US saved your assess in WW2.
Not much will save ole blighty now will it ?……RS and Pamela are right on about the UK.
Mirren10 says
Cicero said:
”I am note with mounting concern the increasing tendency of the Americans and British taking pot shots at each other on this site rather than focussing on the common goal – that of neutralising the Great Satan viz. the Islamic ideology.”
Absolutely right, Cicero. Whatever our differences, we all need to remember we have far more in common than we have differences, and remember the mohammedans want to destroy us all, destroy everything we value, destroy our freedoms.
The only thing all this sniping, schadenfreude, and downright animosity is doing, is giving the mohammedans who lurk and read, and the trolls who post, an opportunity to gloat and rub their hands in glee.
Its been said before, but I’ll say it again. If we fall out, if we fail to stand together, the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward. And make no mistake, islam *is* Mordor.
voegelinian says
Though the Brits and Americans may more or less implicitly snipe at each other, most of both of them seem to share the same conceit — that “the People” are all awake and it’s only the Dastardly Elites (no doubt all “Leftists”) who are the problem. If by awake they mean, however, as nougaty soft as the Jihad Watch Softies, that doesn’t bode so well (though it wouldn’t be surprising, since there seems to be an asymptotic psychology afoot, of all braggadocio bark, and little war-of-ideas bite).
Crixus says
ACS – suggest you start to study history rather than take Hollywood movies as your source of reference. By doing so you just make yourself look like a fucking idiot.
Tony says
Brits will always appease (Chamberlain vs Hitler for example) but when push comes to shove we will fight back. As soon as sharia law tries to take away music, booze, vomiting in the street and footie all hell will break loose. So far we have not felt directly threatened and have not lost our lifestyle. The squirrel incident is more about someone being sued than cowardice. You all underestimate British resilience and grit, it’s still there although currently suppressed by elites and political correctness but by no means gone for good.
Myxlplik says
Tony,
A very mature and honest evaluation/response to some pretty denigrating rhetoric aimed at the British.
As for my Yankee compatriots, people who live in glass houses & stones…. We do have a Muslim in the White House who presided over a speech which claimed the ground which the very seat of our executive branch sits on for Islam.
Times are grave, we are disappointed and frustrated, but we on here are on the same side & we are both equally fucked up.
Mirren10 says
”Times are grave, we are disappointed and frustrated, but we on here are on the same side & we are both equally fucked up.”
Well said, Myxlplik.
Myxlplik says
Things are turning around Mirren, the legions of MB commenters posing as liberals are losing the argument, see the comment section here… This article gets ripped a new one & it’s not too hard to see the intellectual wellspring of Robert and his work in it. The truth wins.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/29/worst-countries-for-women_n_6241216.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
Champ says
C’mon everyone knows that this was a Jew in a squirrel costume! …so it is written in the unholy quran.
Mirren10 says
”C’mon everyone knows that this was a Jew in a squirrel costume!”
Mazel Tov, Champ ! 🙂
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2009/2182461138_af07578751_z.jpg?zz=1
Champ says
Ahaha!!!! …great picture, Mirren10! 🙂
XO
Oliver says
Wasn’t it Iran, that a few years ago, accused MOSSAD of using squirrels as spies?
(And, if I remember correctly, -unless it was a satire–the Iranian secret police or whatever ‘got the squirrels” to confess).
Champ says
Yes, I remember that story! lol! ;-D
ECAW says
142 comments so far. Let’s try for a record.
What do we on both sides of the Atlantic think of the French?
cs says
Trouble with the french is that Marine Le Pen actually has connections with Iran, and holocaust deniers. They have a big problem there, though the muslims in France are more of gangsters rather than religious. I don’t know which place will explode first, France or Britain, it is almost worth a bet.
Kepha says
Let me go on record that I don’t share the “trash Britain” mentality, and am sorry that a number of British readers feel that this site has taken to unfairly targeting their country. In any case, I apologize if I’ve left that impression.
Yes, I’m a Yank and proud of it (but don’t feel I need to trash anyone else over it). I’m “Anglo-Saxon” chiefly by osmosis and even walk around with a few “swarthy” genes myself.
Frankly, I think there’s an awful lot to admire in the British past, and I believe that US history would’ve been very different in a worse way had we declared independence from France or Spain. Unlike a lot of people teaching history in the USA, I don’t think that the good and wise parts of how we do politics are just are own, but show a fair amount of British intellectual DNA. John A. Pocock was right when he called our revolution one of _Three British Revolutions_ (Pocock is/was a British historian).
Further, as a teacher myself (although of larger, more knuckle-headed kids who’d probably try to grad the damn thing), I don’t knock my British colleague who evacuated the playground. For all she knew, the squirrel might have been rabid–that can and does happen.
I trust I kept my jokes about the squirrel on a level that was not attacking Britain. It’s a country in my prayers of late.
girigirihanasu says
Thanks for you thoughtful comment Kepha. Ever since the ludicrous UK entry ban on RS and PG, I’ve increasingly found myself thinking “ok, what potshot is JW going to take at Britain today” as I fire up the browser. It really detracts from JW’s intellectual credentials.
gravenimage says
This is the only point on which I agree with you here, girigirihanasu—Brits and Americans face the same threat from violent Islam, and have similar appeasing dhimmi politicians and press, as does most of the West.
We are all heading down the same path—what we need to do is turn this around; not take smug potshots at each other.
gravenimage says
Kepha, I agree. The entire Anglophone world shares more values than not.
It is also worth repeating that the Founding Fathers in America very much considered themselves Englishmen. They were not rejecting British culture and values at all—instead, they wanted the full rights afforded to them as Britons. The revolution was not a rejection of British values at all—instead, it was a conformation of them.
Neil Jennison says
Indeed that is what I pointed out some time ago.
I have long been proud of the unwritten British constitution – it worked very well until Tony Blair started dismantling it and introducing “hate crimes”.
Now I long for a constitution that guarantees freedom of speech like you have in the USA.
Without that, whatever freedoms you think are your absolute rights, get whittled away at the whim of governments chasing votes.
Freedom and free speech is never a “given”.
knowing slightly better says
You people realize that infant in england means two and three year olds right?
How mad would you get if your small child came back from school with a bite from a possibly deaseased wild animal?
Yet the only solution offered was to kill the squirell, how is that better than avoiding it for half an hour or is this going to become another argument for teachers being armed in schools?
The idea that what a school chose to do about yes an arguably harmless animal has anytime to do with how we deal with terrorists is laughable and redicolous.
We have been deal I g with bombings from the IRA litterally my entire life and we never felt the need to take away anyones civil liberties and we certainly never went over to Ireland and started bombing innocent bystanders like its a good idea.
I think you all need to find some better sources of information that isn’t so biased to his own opinion.
knows slightly better says
Seriously what is wrong with you people..?
Sort out the problems in your own country/population before you start complaining about other.
People in glass houses should not throw stones.
knows slightly better says
The Muslim religion is a just one and in actuality is almost identical to christianity.
That is not to say there are not bad Muslims there certainly are. There are bad christians as well.
ECAW says
Islam is almost identical to Christianity – except that one was founded by a man who was crucified and one was founded by a man who ordered crucifixions.
Please do a little research. You might be surprised what you find about Mohammed.
knows slightly better says
This website is nothing more than a means of igorant people sharing hate. Everything I read on this website makes me more angry at western civilization.
BC says
I think this report is unworthy of you Robert. It diminishes your authority in my view. There may be all kinds of reasons why the children were taken back indoors. They were primary school kids and if any of them had been bitten or scratched it would have meant visits to the ER and anti tetanus shots or even anti rabies. if I was their teacher I would have done the same thing.
The playground was not ‘evacuated’ as you emotively say. The kids were asked to return to their classrooms. The teachers are in loco parentis, which means they are responsible as a parent would be..
In no way is this emblematic of weakness. Your report and remarks are offensive and does you serious
discredit in my eyes.
Crixus says
Robert,
you are letting your personal gripe with that witch, May, get the better of your judgement.
You are better than that.
all this does is piss off those that are your allies
give it a rest eh?