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Video: Which is more offensive at UC-Berkeley — the flag of the Islamic State or the flag of Israel?

Nov 19, 2014 12:23 pm By Robert Spencer

This aptly illustrates the moral inversion of what is taught on our college campuses. These students’ reactions show how thoroughly they have been propagandized — just as students on the campuses of Nazi Germany in the early 1930s were just as propagandized to be anti-Semitic and tolerant of thuggery, calling evil good and good evil.

Video thanks to Ami Horowitz.

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  1. mariam rove says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:31 pm

    What a tragedy this is. Unbelievable. M

    • cs says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 5:46 pm

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOHJ06bsSow
      his video in Egypt is very good.
      how they perceive Obama.
      Obama is very weak in their perception.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:41 pm

    Islam is an institution.
    UC-Berkley is an institution.

    There liberal programming is stuck in an endless recursive loop.

    • john spielman says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 8:05 am

      I chuckle when I think that ISIS will force these liberal socialist hags to wear a black garbage bags over their heads and be allowed in public only with their male family members. They will NOT be allowed to drive and certainly
      NOT go to school esp Berkley!

      • Jerry says

        Nov 20, 2014 at 11:52 pm

        Don’t lose your head over it.

        In HBO era all they all chant
        Yes we can!

  3. Neil Jennison says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    Dear Lord that is frightening! We sit here in the 21 century and think that what happened in 1930s Germany could never happen today…..that kind of brainwashing of whole swathes of society.

    Yet there it is right in front of us.

    • carpediadem says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 8:52 am

      Yep, there it is, the result of years’ worth of the left busily integrating into the cultural institutions, teaching your kids to be haters and dupes and the nonLeftists of America letting it all happen under their noses and not doing a damn thing about it and not even gathering together to vote out Obama or even try to even the numbers in the universities, media, churches etc, let alone running for office or hassling their representatives in Congress.

      Must be all that nonLeftist independence and love of freedom and USA I keep hearing about.

      Excuse the tone. It’s well out of date to be surprised at the campus malice and idiocy against Jews and Israel when no one has done anything about fighting it.

      • Bindon Blood says

        Nov 20, 2014 at 9:30 am

        Sadly it is the same story in England and all over the Western world. Hard to know exactly what’s going on because the E.U and the U.N have so many secret agendas,world government being one and Eurabia being another. Transferring wealth from the West to the under developed parts of the world via “climate Change” conspiracy another. It’ll all end in tears,hopefully not mine as my years on Earth are rapidly entering the last phase of age. 50-100years should see the destruction of the world as we now know it with an enslaved or fragmented Europe and an impoverished clapped out and disillusioned USA;unless an effort is made to stop the rot of course. Australia might escape but she will be very much alone in a hostile world. You can forget New Zealand and Canada,the seeds of destruction are sown there already.

  4. Don McKellar says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:46 pm

    The Israel flag reaction is pretty remarkable — these students are completely brainwashed and removed from reality.

    What is clear, sorry, Ami, is that they do not support the ISIS flag of jihad, but it is clear to me that they realize a set-up when they see one. Nobody is fooled into thinking he’s “for” ISIS and they all recognize it as a hoax or some kind of set up. They give him a thumbs up with a laugh.

    The remarkable part is not what the maker of it thought they were getting, but what they actually captured. These students are smart enough to know when they’re being had, yet have been so brainwashed by propoganda that they don’t know that they’re being had when it comes to their opinions on Israel!

    • bindon blood says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 1:09 pm

      I disagree. I think the passing numb-skulls were quite relaxed about him flying the flag of tyranny and spouting anti American claptrap,only one person remonstrated with him. Yet as soon as the Israeli flag appeared the programming kicked in and the insults and accusations just rolled out of the “students” like propaganda sheets off a printing press,words and opinions pre formed and indelibly marked into their waxy brains by cynical and twisted “educators”. Are these saps,dangerous saps I must add ,America’s future? Are these unthinking automatons going to actually run the free world one day? I doubt it because if these mindless bigots really are America’s future,America hasn’t got a future. This is how the marauding thugs of the Islamic conquests succeeded so quickly, they found societies that had already been hollowed out from within. I am,actually,disgusted. The English ruling class are stupid but I believe the people ,most of them,are still thinking. I could be wrong .

      • Don McKellar says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 1:40 pm

        Of course they were “relaxed” about him flying the ISIS flag — they didn’t take him seriously. Nobody would do that. They put it together, used their brains, and realized it was a gag and weren’t going to play into it except with a little sarcastic thumbs up followed by a laugh. Or even that one prof or administrator giving him a sarcastic “good luck”.

        The reaction to the Israel flag waver was to take him seriously, because somebody might do that. And it was there we saw their “education” on the issues of the Middle East come into play. They were unable to see that they were being fooled when it came to Israel and are unable to use the same quick analysis and intelligence they used when the ISIS flag waver came on to either ignore it or dismiss it. They are completely indoctrinated and baited to the point of almost violent confrontation. Just by seeing an Israeli flag they see red and their thinking minds go out the window and are shut down.

        • Bindon Blood says

          Nov 19, 2014 at 2:10 pm

          Sure you are not indulging in wishful thinking? I for one could not pass a person waving such a flag in the street without a challenge,joke or not. I think that a lot of American youth do support these black hearted murderers and actually despise their own people. Tragic.

        • Don McKellar says

          Nov 19, 2014 at 2:36 pm

          It is actually those who think that the reaction to the ISIS flag (mostly a non-reaction) actually meant something with regards to an acceptance who are indulging in wishful thinking. Very few intelligent people would react with confrontation to something that is highly unlikely to be serious.

          The makers of the video are making a somewhat different point than they intended, but nonetheless a valid one and a sad, truthful comment on the state of affairs at the school and the “education” the students are getting.

        • nothosaur says

          Nov 20, 2014 at 6:55 am

          Interesting perspective. I myself would probably stay clear of an ISIS flag waver out of fear that he is psycho. Perhaps an anonymous poll could show us what they thimk.

          How do you account for the man who passed him on the way up the stairs and said “good luck”? They may have approved of him, thinking that ISIS is merely a reasonable reaction to American “imperialism”

        • voegelinian says

          Nov 21, 2014 at 2:26 am

          “Of course they were “relaxed” about him flying the ISIS flag — they didn’t take him seriously. Nobody would do that.”

          Because no one would ever fly an ISIS flag sincerely? Because America is magically different from the rest of the world, immune from fanatical Muslims and their radical Leftist fellow-travelers?

      • Darren says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 3:11 pm

        The communist infiltration of the education system is complete and total. I also argue that it’s always been this way with people, both with cognitive dissonance and the herd like mentality and group think. You can’t fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool most of the people all of the time this has always been true. Humans by and large are herd animals easy to lie to easy to manipulate and easy to fool.

        Most are focused solely on bread and circuses and the only time they get political they are lead by their emotions, especially if one of the herd goes into stampede mode. Politicians know this and play upon this constantly. People by and large as I said are quite easy to manipulate especially large groups due to the herd like mentality and group think built into people. I would say the vast majority of people are quite easy to lead with emotion. Our herd like nature builds society but it is also a double edged sword in my opinion, and I often wonder is it because of our herd like nature that most of human socities throughout history have been totalitarian in nature. We tend to centralize instinctively. I argue decentralization is the key to human evolution not centralization like the Federalists do. I’m not saying outright anarchy since a true anarchistic system is impossible due to human nature, but one as close to the one our founding fathers had. States within a larger state operating independently while still connected for mutual self defense in case a large predator attacks. I often compare Centralization and Decentralization to both yin and yang, decentralization being yin and centralization being yang. Sorry to write such a long winded post I was more thinking to myself than responding to the post. I’ll end it here.

        • quotha raven says

          Nov 21, 2014 at 6:04 am

          “…Because no one would ever fly an ISIS flag sincerely? Because America is magically different from the rest of the world, immune from fanatical Muslims and their radical Leftist fellow-travelers?”

          Tell it like it is, Voeg! Anyone with eyes open can see these ISIS recruiters pullulating throughout the globe! Cheers! Quotha

    • bobm says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm

      the way I sees it Don; is that when this guy waved the flag of darkness ; the snakes stayed in the bushes…. When he brought out the Israeli flag the venomous comment began to emerge .. the snakes began to strike .. to reveal themselves…. No doubt in my mind he was in a very dangerous place if he had continued.

    • BW022 says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 4:58 pm

      Don… agreed. There is a major difference with the ISIS flag.

      There can easily be a percentage of the crowd which doesn’t recognize it or what it means. Then, there are those which may not believe that this guy is serious about supporting ISIS. Finally, there are those who may simply don’t know what to do about it.

      I’m not sure how I’d react? I’d likely be confused and even if I was inclined to do something… I’m not sure what exactly one should say. There comes a point of idiocy as which you simply assume someone is nuts and that it is pointless having a discussion with them.

      If someone was out with a sign “Ban Babies”… you kind of don’t respond. It is just so off the wall as to be bizarre. Whether it is a joke, a test to see if others get it, or the person is just nuts… there isn’t any obvious response to it.

      I’m sure there is massive issues with brain dead liberals not understanding Hamas, the nature of the Israeli occupation, etc. However, with an ISIS flag, one does have to consider the fact that people might “see through” this and understanding it isn’t “real”, simply not know about ISIS, or simply not know how to respond.

      The problem with this as a ‘study’ or ‘example’ is that I’m not sure exactly what one would expect a reasonable person to do if presented with someone with an ISIS flag… even if they believed this person was serious. Someone supporting Israel is not necessarily mad, someone actually supporting ISIS… is probably beyond the point at which talking to them makes any sense.

      • cs says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 6:00 pm

        Though in Britain 1 out of 7 young Muslims support or have warm feelings towards Daesh.

        • Darren says

          Nov 20, 2014 at 12:00 pm

          It’s even worse in France. 16% of the total population, this is total population not just muslim population supports the islamic state. So the muslim population that supports the islamic state in France is much higher than 16%. This is a very alarming statistic, since it could be even higher than I think, due to people lying to confuse the infidel.

          http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-citizens-support-isis-poll-finds-266795

  5. SallyA says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:47 pm

    Janet Napolitano, who in Obama’s admin. brought Muslims with apparent MB leanings into Dept. HS, now heads the University of CA system with its flagship university in Berkeley, and she had no prior academic administrative leadership experience. She also was on the Tim McVeigh prosecutorial team before her political star began to rise nationally, and McVeigh became the poster boy for Obama-empire suggestions that the greatest threat to Americans from terrorism could never be Islam.

    Hmmm… the tentacles go broad and deep in the would-be Islamic States of America. It’s as if we’re being gamed across functional areas of government to see how many of us are paying attention to the ratcheting up of Islamic-flavored atrocity and PC MC efforts to silence us. Certainly all who profit from Islam’s terrorism and mind-bending PC MC propaganda are not themselves overtly Muslim. But all the collaborators, useful idiots and willfully blind are culpable.

  6. Auckland says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm

    This can be rationalised if we acknowledge that schooling and education are not synonymous.

  7. cs says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    Cool video.

  8. Beagle says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    “Israel is the psychological genocide of this planet”
    — —

    Ah….

    Must be a professor.

    • quotha raven says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 1:57 pm

      “Israel is the psychological genocide of this planet”

      Actually, Beagle, that caught my eye, too. I have not a clue what “psychological genocide” means nor how in the world it might be equated with Israel. What on earth is this fancy-talker’s point? Sounds like some phrase that popped into a stoned grad student’s mind one day and he thought it was cute, so he tried to work it into his conversations as often as he could! I used to be a college-faculty-wife, and I think you’re onto something. I think an ass’t prof. There were a lot of ninnies at the university where I lived…those who can, do; those who can’t…teach. True dat.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Nov 20, 2014 at 11:19 pm

        You said – “those who can, do; those who can’t…teach.”

        Do you mean to imply by that statement – which I have heard complacently quoted by so many around the internets, as if it is the same sort of fact as “2 + 2 = 4” – that ALL teachers everywhere, from kindergarten to university, are basically failures who only got into teaching because they were no good at anything else?

        So how did the engineers who built the bridges and roads and buildings you use every day, learn the reading, writing, and maths that enabled them to do that building? They just pulled themselvs up by their bootstraps, starting from when they were about five: they’re all self-taught, they just figured it all out by themselves, from scratch?

        Didn’t you, in the course of your life, ever encounter even one *good* teacher? A teacher who loved to teach (whatever the subject – maths, humanities, science ), and who inspired you to learn, taught you *how* to learn, how to think, how to argue? Surely you must have had just one…or didn’t you?

        Because the reality is that teaching, as such, should not be dismissed as the “default” option for people who have failed at all other options.

        *Good* teachers have a vocation to teach (in whatever subject/s), just like good doctors and good scientists and good writers or artists also have a vocation. I have seen a successful engineer decide – after a period of soul-searching in his late thirties – that teaching was where he was supposed to be; he is now teaching science and physics to high-schoolers, having taken a significant drop in salary and prestige when he changed his profession. But he doesn’t seem to regret his change in career.

        That the Academy, like many other aspects of western civilisation, has been infiltrated and subverted by destructive people and/ or ideas, does not mean that the Academy as such, and the teaching profession as such, are in and of themselves evil or base and should *always* have been viewed with contempt, or shut down and done away with.

        • quotha raven says

          Nov 21, 2014 at 1:22 am

          No, Dumbledoresarmy,of course I didn’t really mean to bash the entire teaching profession with my throw-away delivery of an old saw. But my PhD husband, a college professor, is the one who taught me that catchy old statement, and our son, who has a master’s degree agrees…and I would have to say I’ve encountered many more poor teachers than excellent ones, on every level from pre-K to grad school. The good ones stick out in my mind, and they are few.

      • voegelinian says

        Nov 21, 2014 at 2:34 am

        I have not a clue what “psychological genocide” means…

        It’s a very important concept in the PC MC (and Leftist) paradigm. It is the thought crime of anticipating genocide in one’s mind against a privileged Ethnic Minority, merely by thinking critical thoughts about that Minority and its rich cultural heritage. Since Muslims have, since 911, perversely become the #1 Most Privileged Ethnic People on the planet, all the self-righteous anxiety, concern and paranoia about the “racist” thought crime of “psychological genocide” becomes singularly concentrated and intense with regard to them.

        How Muslims became the #1 Most Privileged Ethnic People on the planet since 911 I have analyzed at length on my blog. In a nutshell, it’s due to two factors:

        1) The PC MC paradigm regards Muslims as an Ethnic People

        2) The violence and threats of violence perpetrated by Muslims is astronomically worse than those of any other ethnic people (and most ethnic peoples aren’t even causing any statistically significant problems of violence at all, anyway).

        Put these two ingredients together, add the bonus spice, the fact that Muslims number hundreds of millions (with millions aggrandizing within the West), and you get the disastrous cocktail that the PC MC Kool-Ade has become.

        • quotha raven says

          Nov 21, 2014 at 6:12 am

          Thanks, Voegelinian, for the explanation of “psychological genocide”….I must say the concept is more gruesome than anything even George (Orwell) came up with.
          Grim and fancy thinking on steroids. Cheers! Quotha

  9. gerard says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 1:14 pm

    Terrifying video. There is one civilised country in ME: Israel and this is the country that is hated while Islamic states/prisons/nightmares are defended. (But you’re not allowed to smoke on campus!)

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 2:07 pm

      There are many more Jewish students at Berkeley than there are Mohammedans.

      Nonetheless, antisemitism is increasingly widespread there:

      “Hostile Environment For Jewish Students at U.C. Berkeley”

      http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/jamie-glazov/hostile-environment-for-jewish-students-at-u-c-berkeley/

      I was graphics editor for the Jewish student magazine when I attended there—but I believe things have become much more hostile since that time.

      • voegelinian says

        Nov 21, 2014 at 2:36 am

        And how many of the Jewish faculty and students there are self-hating Leftards?

  10. Gail Griffin says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 1:22 pm

    This is on Fox News Opinion. I hope this is shown on air more than once. I can only hope NBC and CNN also pick it up

    • prsamurai says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 2:25 pm

      Sadly, not a chance

  11. gleaner1 says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Thank God that happened in California and not the UK. Mind you, it could be the UK or most other places because everywhere the left get their noses through the door, routine militant Islam rides in on their coat tails.

  12. R Cole says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    Waving an Isis flag – okay – just do not smoke on campus!!

    To support Islam – you have to support some wild and crazy things!

    As in the lining up and mass killings of Shiites is America’s fault!!

    But if you can hide Islamic supremacist ideals – [even genocidal ones] – behind current issues where Muslims are painted as the victims – then these can easily be masked.

    Indeed the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem visited Hitler and expressed a shared objective.

    Subsequently [*having been informed of the genocide – which stood at 3 million], the Mufti declared in November, 1943:

    It is the duty of Muhammadans in general and Arabs in particular to … drive all Jews from Arab and Muhammadan countries….Germany is also struggling against the common foe who oppressed Arabs and Muhammadans in their different countries. It has very clearly recognized the Jews for what they are and resolved to find a definitive solution [endgültige Lösung] for the Jewish danger that will eliminate the scourge that Jews represent in the world. …

  13. Myxlplik says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    “Dey inslave de whole planeteh”

    I see the birthplace of Ebonics is still a linguistical hinterland.

    • Darren says

      Nov 19, 2014 at 3:31 pm

      Jews do enslave the whole planet. I at great risk to my own life dug deeper into this mystery. After infiltrating the Hive (yes jews have a hive and share a hive mind like buggers in Enders Game or Starcraft) I was able to view the OverJew in person. The OverJew is fed kosher food in a chamber deep underground. It is fed by armies of worker jews guarded by soldier jews. The only way to eliminate the OverJew is by tapping into a deep mystical force called the Shwartz. We once had a mighty champion who fought one of the OverJew’s most powerful agents. He used to work in a box factory in Brooklyn but was taken over and subverted to the evil whims of OverJew. A mighty battle was fought on a spaceship commanded by the Reptillian Rabbi’s from Remulak bent on intergalactic conquest. This is never before seen footage of the mighty battle involving forces most morals will never know.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI0i_tL-8aU

      Sadly after this fight and the mighty battle that followed the mighty champion who took on the OverJew and his minions fell victim to the kosher miasma the OverJew gives off and has since been subverted. He now works in a delicatessen in Brooklyn next to the very same box factory Lord H elmet once worked in. It is my hypothesis that there is a hive cluster there are near by.

      Anyway there is hope even though all hope seems lost. A master in the art of the Shwartz has been found at long last. This is footage of him never before seen.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9OaCuUlCAU

      There is one other force in the Galaxy besides the shwartz that can defeat the OverJew and his army of minions and that is psyonic power. This power can only be accessed through a complex ritual known as candy flipping. The only ones who hold can impart this mystical power are dudeist priests in the holy order of the Dude. This man will bring us all salvation.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMuFYnvSsZg

      Of course before I am done imparting this wisdom at great risk to myself, since if the Dudeist doom brigade find out they will send their missionaries with a 6 pack and an ounce of some kind bud I have to mention one other champion who gave his life against the OverJew. This noble champion is known as Tassadar here is his final moments.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vC6FixzqJo

      Why does he look so inhuman? He was tortured like in the movie ClockWork Orange and tied to a chair with his eyelids taped open and forced to watch Obama campaign speeches.

      Anyway I’ve risked my life enough for one day good luck and may the shwartz be with you.

      • Myxlplik says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm

        Okay, now that was hillarious :).

        Your knowledge of the Swartz is impressive young Jedi.

        • Darren says

          Nov 20, 2014 at 12:07 pm

          The Shwartz is indeed strong with this one. It took me years of practicing in my youth, binge drinking and partying to gain such power in the ways of the shwartz. Don’t even get me started on my 5 day party in 2000 celebrating the Y2k lol, that one went on for 5 days it looked like a scene from the movie Animal House when the cops finally busted it. Someone went home drunk and ratted us out, when the boys and blue finally arrived it looked like a scene from the Walking Dead. I gained much power in the ways of the Shwartz that night. Needless to say the Rudolph the rat was never invited to anymore Reindeer games.

        • Darren says

          Nov 20, 2014 at 12:09 pm

          I meant to say boys in blue, and dude ratted us out to his dad, he cracked under pressure. I haven’t spoken to him in years, I hope he never decided to take up a life of crime, he wouldn’t do too well under questioning.

      • Ivan Bogdanov says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 5:04 pm

        Kudos!!

        More Later….

      • cs says

        Nov 19, 2014 at 6:06 pm

        Some people do believe it, on the internet you see this over and over.

        • Darren says

          Nov 20, 2014 at 12:03 pm

          I bet a few people read that and already are trying to contact the dude and find Yogurt. Though I would assume this site attracts a lot less of those types. From the posts I’ve read I would wager most of you are well educated and quite stable mentally. The only people I find unstable around here are the stealth jihadist, and dhimmi posters.

  14. zohar says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    This is bogus because he didn’t wave the Isis flag at Sproul Plaza.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 2:24 pm

      He was waving the ISIS flag on the steps of the Campanile, and the Israeli flag on the steps of Sproul Hall, which is in Sproul Plaza.

      Both are heavily traveled areas on the UC Berkeley campus.

  15. Ivan Bogdanov says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    Many Kudos to Ami Horowitz.

    More Later….

  16. mortimer says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 5:03 pm

    For a long time, America has received large numbers of people who hate America, but love money. Their only motive for coming to the US is greed.

    They do make loyal citizens. Anyone who sees Sharia as superior to the US constitution should not become a citizen. There should be a way of discovering the loyalty of an applicant (lie detector test ?) to prevent him/her from becoming a citizen and get them expelled.

  17. somehistory says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    What a twisted world in which we live. Not surprised that the bearded guys reacted so strongly and wrongly to what he was saying about Israel, guessing they are muslim, but the pollution of the other young minds is going strong at Berkley. One guy even wishing the *isis* guy, *good luck.*

  18. Kepha says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    I dunno. It looked as if the kids passing the IS flag were giving the slient F— You look. They certainly seemed to want to avoid your actor.

  19. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 6:11 pm

    The moral inversion is made possible by a careful distance from the facts. The student holding the black flag knows little or nothing about Islam, and probably not much more about the deeds of the New Caliphs, and their expressed goals.

    Fictive reality is kept afloat by the billowing hot gas of ignorance. Blissful, willful ignorance.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 2:35 pm

      Alarmed Pig Farmer wrote:

      The student holding the black flag knows little or nothing about Islam, and probably not much more about the deeds of the New Caliphs, and their expressed goals.
      ………………………….

      APF, the students waving the flag of ISIS and the Israeli flag were one and the same—Ami Horowitz, the filmmaker. He was doing it to make a point about the attitudes on the UC Berkeley campus—which certainly came through loud and clear.

      He was mouthing just the sort of witless Leftist platitudes that many who whitewash Hamas and other vile Jihad groups regularly do.

  20. bash says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    You can’t smoke on campus…but you can support a group that cuts people’s heads off! 20 year olds with their heads up their asses today are no different than when I was 20!

  21. Lion Rampant says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Eternal vigilance is the price we pay for our freedom even if it means watching and listening to islamic drivel and prima donna performances like this clueless yet
    useful idiot gives.
    The only way to stay sane is to, at least mentally, remorselessly take the piss put of them.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 20, 2014 at 2:46 pm

      Ami Horowitz is *not* a useful idiot—he is playing a useful idiot to make a point.

  22. Fanch says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 10:47 pm

    Maybe the Islamic State’s flag is not yet that famous or recognizable at first sight.

  23. Salah says

    Nov 19, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    At least he’s not smoking under the Islamic State rule!

    “..anyone caught smoking in Mosul could be fined 20,000 Iraqi dinar..”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/islamic-state-giving-shopkeepers-80-lashes-for-selling-cigarettes

  24. gravenimage says

    Nov 20, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Kudos to Ami Horowitz—this video makes the point all too well. What it has to say about my alma mater is, of course, much less praiseworthy.

    The one criticism he receives when appearing as the ISIS supporter is grimly hilarious—that he shouldn’t be smoking on campus.

  25. gravenimage says

    Nov 20, 2014 at 3:03 pm

    Ny guess, too, is that reaction would have been much the same at many universities not just in the US, but throughout the West.

  26. Champ says

    Nov 30, 2014 at 5:53 pm

    ✡I STAND WITH ISRAEL!!!! ✡

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