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Woman proclaiming Christ ejected from Muslim prayers at National Cathedral

Nov 14, 2014 5:42 pm By Robert Spencer

It all sounds so high-minded: the Rev. Canon Gina Campbell says: “This needs to be a world in which all are free to believe and practice and in which we avoid bigotry, Islamaphobia, racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Christianity and to embrace our humanity and to embrace faith.”

But someone threw a rotting cabbage on their lovely sofa, as DCist laments: “And because love, respect and understanding is too much of a concept for some people to understand, a person interrupted the service. Of course.” Still, the spectacle of a woman being forcibly ejected from what is ostensibly a Christian cathedral for proclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord just before Muslim prayers are about to begin is at very least evidence that we live in strange times.

I noted here the Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood links of the sponsoring groups. Besides that, there is the fact that there is an enduring obstacle to achieving a world in which we are all free to believe and practice and embrace our humanity and faith: Muslims who take to heart and act upon Qur’an verses like these:

Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14

Jesus is not the Son of God: “O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171

“It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35

Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30

Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157

Christians, as People of the Book, must be warred against and subjugated: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29

In light of all that, and the ongoing and escalating Muslim persecution of Christians worldwide, wouldn’t it have been more appropriate, so as to promote love, respect and understanding and all that, to have Christian prayers in a mosque? After all, it is Muslims who are persecuting Christians worldwide, and the National Cathedral decides to show its good will and love for Muslims by inviting Hamas-linked Muslim Brotherhood front groups to pray there. Why doesn’t the ADAMS Center show its good will and love for Christians by inviting Christians to pray in the mosque there?

This woman who disrupted the service was upset that a building dedicated to the worship of Christ had been given over for the use of people who believe that her proclamation of Christ is a blasphemous falsehood and that her beliefs are a perversion of the true teachings of Jesus the Muslim prophet. Before waxing indignant and self-righteous over her “bigotry” and “intolerance,” Muslims who would have no problem with a mosque that did indeed invite Christians in to offer prayers to the Son of God, and who would applaud the forcible ejection from that mosque of a Muslim who stood up and said, No, this is wrong, there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet, should demonstrate their own love, respect and understanding by actually extending a real invitation to Christians to come in.

“Of Course Someone Interrupted Muslim Prayers At The National Cathedral,” DCist, November 14, 2014 (thanks to Jerk Chicken):

In a “a dramatic moment in the world and in Muslim-Christian relations,” the National Cathedral is currently hosting Jumu’ah, the Friday prayer said by Muslims. And because love, respect and understanding is too much of a concept for some people to understand, a person interrupted the service. Of course.

According to reports, a woman yelled “Jesus Christ is Lord!” before being removed from the Cathedral. A group of motorcyclists planned to protest “the Islamization of America” outside the D.C. house of worship.

Organized by South African Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool, the All Dulles Area Muslim Society, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Society of North America, Muslim Public Affairs Council and The Nation’s Mosque, certain people are pretty worked up about the service, with the Reverend Franklin Graham calling it “sad to see.”In a release about the event, Rasool, who helped organize the event with Cathedral liturgical director, the Rev. Canon Gina Campbell, said, “This needs to be a world in which all are free to believe and practice and in which we avoid bigotry, Islamaphobia, racism, anti-Semitism, and anti-Christianity and to embrace our humanity and to embrace faith.”

The service can be watched here.

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  1. Jaladhi says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm

    Let’s see if Muslims of DC area allow Christians to hold their services in the DC mosque!!! Not a chance – the mutual understanding is always on a one way street, or better call it one way understanding but never from Muslims. When will we learn the true nature of Muslims and Islam??

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      More evidence that Muhammad is nothing but a worthless piece of crap beneath our shoes.

      Be careful were we step or we might step into a pile of Islam.

    • L.S. says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 11:10 pm

      I urge you all to go to the cathedral website and leave a comment, which I did. If you wish for more information about this gathering of Muslims and “Christians” see the “service leaflet” which you can access also on the cathedral website. Of course CAIR and INSA were a big part of this service.

      Almost exactly ONE year ago (November 10, 2013 to be exact) there was an interfaith gathering at a church in Germany (Memorial Church of the Reformation in the Rhineland city of Speyer, built to honor Martin Luther). It wasn’t just any church. It’s a monument to the Protestant Reformation and a memorial to the spiritual transformation of Germany.

      It was at this spiritual landmark that a Muslim imam was invited to give the call to prayer. A brave woman named Heidi Mund heard about the event and went there, not sure what she would do.

      Then the Muslim call to prayer began. Heidi said she felt something rising up inside her. A holy anger she called it. She proclaimed that Jesus Christ is Lord over Germany.

      You can read the rest of the story on http://www.CBNnews.com — “Brave German Woman Rebukes Islam’s Lie”. May we find the courage to do likewise.

      • Ruth Logan says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 11:43 pm

        Exactly right. I stand with you.

      • Alice says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 11:51 pm

        Ever feel like you have just put a target on your person?

    • valmet says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 11:29 pm

      How tragic she was the only one who protested. There should have been many like her.

    • kikorikid says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:11 am

      Islam does not build “Two-Way” Bridges, the stiles are One-Way ONLY towards Islam. “Civilation Jihad” and “Creeping Sharia” are not Peace.
      Islam does not come in Peace.
      Islam does not come to assimilate.
      Islam comes ONLY to : Conquer, Submit, Convert, or Kill.

      • AnneM says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 5:51 pm

        Because there is a reason, it is doing what its god, SATAN, the devil tells them to do.

    • Erik says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 1:35 am

      Hey lady, you forgot homophobia.

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 5:57 pm

    Words fail me. Islamonaseau has overtaken me.

    • Roderick MacUalraig says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:53 am

      Yes… Islamoloathia.

  3. Sam says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    I am so disgusted with western civilization’s ignorance of Islam. What do you do to unbrainwash liberals?

    • Daniel says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      Its not just a liberal problem. I come from a conservative family background. I been trying for a good few years now warning my friends and family of the coming islam america and they are to wrapped up in their illusion that everything is OK, and I’m just an islamaphobic! I don’t fear Islam, what I fear is that they want to kill everyone who isn’t a Muslim! Americans in general, whether liberal or conservative are blind in both eyes to what has happened in Europe, and what is happening here. Muslim ideology cannot assimilate into American society because their religion doesn’t allow flexibility. Christians, and Buddhist’s, such as myself, are under constant attack from a people bent on taking over the world by force! And they will succeed, because liberals and conservatives are fighting amongst themselves instead of dealing with the issue at hand.

  4. StoryBrit says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Ever heard Christian prayers in a mosque?

  5. Jay Boo says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Islamic Entitlement Syndrome

    Surely Muslims must learn to accept and realize that the time has come to escape from Islam’s tawdry disguise and stop wasting their lives chasing Islam’s empty mirage of an Islamic Paradise while defending Muhammad’s sociopathic alibi as they race to stay one step ahead of truth by clearing their way of Islam’s disgraceful and disgusting reality.

  6. Daphne Donges says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:06 pm

    According to Muslim teachings, any place that allows Muslim prayers is a Mosque, therefore by doing this the National Cathedral is now the National Mosque….How stupid can people get?

    • james says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:11 pm

      so true ,just like the father of byrdall, at the white house ,when he gave his speah in was in Arabic ,and he calmed, white house for islam,that was when you could see oboma smiling about it.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:53 pm

      Then again,
      According to Muslim teachings Muhammad is a prophet.
      How stupid can Muslims get?

    • Aion says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:29 pm

      Episcopalians are mostly idiots, they will probably in fact like the idea of it becoming the “National Mosque” and begin proclaiming it to be so within the year.

      • John C. Barile says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        God’s Frozen People–the oh-so-respectable Episcopalians–may in large part be, as you put it, “mostly idiots,” so–Of Course–they have to showcase their tolerance and embrace of every creed–excepting, Of Course, full-throated, unevicerated Christianity.

        • John C. Barile says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:51 pm

          It’s not so much anti-Episcopalian animus I mean to express, but anti-elitism and distaste for a societal leadership that is so emptied-out of timeless conviction as to be a hollow receptacle for trendy rubbish.

  7. Don McKellar says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:24 pm

    As an atheist — which means that, like it or not by many on Jihad Watch, I am too advanced by logic and critical thinking to give any credence to any religion, which are all complete nonsense — I am appalled by this video.

    It is ridiculous, and this woman is very rightly outraged, that those who completely debase and discredit her beliefs are given full power over her place of worship! That is insane. It is as if Richard Dawkins (or name your well-spoken, well known atheist) were to be given space in your place of worship to talk all about the science which makes your beliefs a joke in the modern world! Not by saying so, just like these moslems do not say so, but what they do while there and their very presence says so. You have the right to believe whatever you want as long as you do not infringe on my rights not to believe in what you preach! This is a clear violation of that woman’s rights!

    This is a crazy video. What is wrong with the stewards of this church to allow this to happen? Why not invite satanists to hold a Black Mass there? What is the difference?

    • TH says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 6:51 pm

      Atheism is directly opposed to critical thinking and it is pure fideism as it believes in such silly things as chance being the origin of the universe. Yes, Islam is totally opposed to reason, not so Christianity. You have wrongly put them in the same bag.

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:13 pm

      Don, your analogy is spot-on!
      And the logic in the equivalence you draw is unimpeachable! Thank you for that sweet nugget.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:16 pm

      This is not a reasonable equivalent.

      Richard Dawkins may not respect the beliefs of Christians, but unlike Muslims he is *not* calling for their oppression and murder.

      • Bettina says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 7:26 pm

        Graven, I was referring to Don’s final equivalence, “Why not invite Satanists to hold a Black Mass there? What is the difference?”
        I think his logic there is perfect. Don’t you?

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 8:13 pm

          Bettina,

          Don McKellar’s first paragraph does sound a lot like the typical claptrap equivalence lead in, but the last two paragraphs seem reasonable enough.

          Whether or not Don McKellar meant an equivalence between Atheism and Islam or was just using Atheism as an example to make a point, gravenimage does well to remind us of the stark contrast with the reply …

          “Richard Dawkins may not respect the beliefs of Christians, but unlike Muslims he is *not* calling for their oppression and murder.”

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 9:52 pm

          Hi, Bettina. I did like Don’s comparison with the black mass.

          But even as grotesquely inappropriate as *that* would be, Satanists haven’t racked up the sort of body count that Muslims have.

          Good to see you posting again.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm

          Thanks, Jay Boo. Hope you are doing well.

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:24 pm

          Thanks, gravenimage and also Bettina
          I believe we are in agreement almost always.

      • Bettina says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 pm

        You make a good point in your post below, Graven — “But even as grotesquely inappropriate as *that* would be, Satanists haven’t racked up the sort of body count that Muslims have.”
        Such a pleasure reading you again! And thanks for the warm welcome back!!

        • Bettina says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 11:47 pm

          Graven, the post I referred to changed places, so it’s above, now 🙂

    • RonaldB says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:22 pm

      “As an atheist…, I am too advanced by logic and critical thinking to give any credence to any religion…”

      Why bring up a superfluous statement of arrogance when you’re speaking to people who completely agree with your main point?

      I’m an atheist also, but put this in your pipe: atheism is a belief, just as Christianity is a belief.

      The reason is this: you cannot prove the non-existence of god. And, the failure of religious people to prove the existence of god, which they have not and cannot, does not provide a proof of the non-existence of god.

      Thus, atheist is a belief unsubstantiated by a logical proof, just like the existence of a god is a belief unsubstantiated by proof. That’s the definition of belief: an idea you believe to be true without proof. The better religious thinkers recognize this, and call it a virtue of faith: they believe in a god because they choose to, and not because of a concrete proof. I myself do not hold to this as a virtue.

      Sometimes, I’ll engage in friendly debates with religious people, but on this thread, to proclaim that atheism is indicative of superior logic or critical thinking is not only needlessly provocative, but untrue. I know a friend with a PHD in mathematics who is much brighter than I am, and very religious. He can’t prove me incorrect in my atheism, because being smart does not equate to being able to prove a non-provable proposition, but I guarantee, you will have to work hard to find an illogical part of his belief.

      • Bettina says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm

        Ronald, it seems to me that your last statement defeats all you said before. You stated that “you will have to work hard to find an illogical part of his belief.”
        You had correctly said that belief — a leap of faith — is logically un-provable, so why work so hard to find a lack of logic in religious or atheistic beliefs, if that lack is self-evident?
        Am I missing something here?

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 8:23 pm

          Yes Bettina
          You cannot prove the non-existence of a god or the existence.
          No one can.
          Your unfair conclusion to dismiss what was said has no solid foundation.
          You are missing something here.

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 8:27 pm

          In addition Bettina
          Let us not overlook Ronald’s truly excellent point —

          “Why bring up a superfluous statement of arrogance when you’re speaking to people who completely agree with your main point?”

        • RonaldB says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:34 pm

          HI Bettina,

          Let me clarify. Just because you cannot prove a belief does not make that belief illogical. You can have an illogical belief, such as the belief that you can bypass the law of gravity, or that Muhammad can be a ruthless serial killer and an excellent moral example, which are contradictions. You can have a belief that does not involve logic, such as the belief that there is a god, and that god judges your actions, but does not act on them in this lifetime.

          What I meant about my friend is that he himself knew where his beliefs began and where his knowledge ended. He would not disagree with something that had been shown by science. But, in religion, there is ample room for belief that may seem unjustified to atheists, but which does not contradict science or logic.

      • Arthur says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        RonaldB, thanks for your respectfully written post! While I comprehend evolution, molecular genetics, and the independence of science from religion, I continue to have faith in Christianity. Your argument, essentially that absence of proof is not proof of absence, is something many well-educated folks on both sides of the aisle don’t seem to get.

        I would simply add that the “power of faith” is not some metaphysical myth, but is a real “superhuman” motivation arising out of absolute conviction in your beliefs. This is the power to motivate people well beyond selfish or even “kinship” reasoning to do things that might be considered either great good or great evil, depending on your point of view. This point seems poorly understood by many humanists, atheists, and “non-practicing” members of religions (politicians included). Such absolute conviction does not need to be religious, but is most often found among those who believe in divine judgment. As much as good science is important to me, I wouldn’t die to defend a theory, but for my faith it would be a different issue.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 10:49 pm

        Good posts, Ronald.

      • Roderick MacUalraig says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 12:58 am

        “The reason is this: you cannot prove the non-existence of god. And, the failure of religious people to prove the existence of god, which they have not and cannot, does not provide a proof of the non-existence of god.”

        Exactly. Seems pretty simple.

        Rregards/ RKM

    • Wellington says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:55 pm

      Not smart, Don McKellar, to pick enemies when you don’t need to. I too am not religious in any way, but why do anthing, as you did, to alienate Christian and other religious allies (e.g., Hindus and religious Jews) when facing the common enemy of Islam, the only religion which in its theological structure is a mortal threat to liberty and equality under the law, as the Islamic world proves again and again on virtually a daily basis? Yeah, how smart is that approach of yours?

      And, I must say, your statement that “I am too advanced by logic and critical thinking to give any credence to any religion, which are all complete nonsense..” made me laugh at your expense. I suppose Thomas Aquinas’ intellectual architecture in the Summa Theologica and Michelangelo’s profound religious artwork would make you laugh too? Really and truly, how does one like you, with your mindset, attempt to understand the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel or Aquinas’ works if, as you assume, all religion is nonsense?

      You know, one can be non-religious without necessarily being anti-religious. I wonder if you get this distincton. To date, I think not. For an advanced thinker, per your claim, I submit you come up a bit short here. The word “overrated” comes to mind. But, pray tell, enlighten me where I have gone wrong on this matter. Oh yeah, would be most interested in your response.

      And, if you do respond, don’t forget that intellectual architecture I mentioned or the artwork of Michelangelo——and other Renaissance artists like Donatello, Rapahel and Titian——and also Romanesque and Gothic catherdrals and, oh yes, Gregorian Chant, just about the most beautiful music of all time and inspired by a religious devotion which you are, clearly, again per your own contention, “too advanced” to extend credence to.

      • Don McKellar says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 10:09 pm

        Your response underlines a bizarre fantasy I see too often on comment boards. You imagine that somehow it matters if a commenter “picks enemies” and is “not smart” in doing so. The only person(s) on a website who might need to even consider such a thing would be the people who run the website. Robert Spencer in this case, is typical of the best of such people, in that he doesn’t stoop to any such thing and says what he wants and is upfront about what he believes. The weakest and most pathetic of website runners would care about what you have to say. Imagine how worthless a sub-human a web board commentator must be to care about such things.

        Now here’s what I have to say to you: shut your hole. I will say whatever I want, because what I say is honest. Like it or not. I do not say anything to play personal politics. I could care less about people who don’t like to hear the truth. I’d rather dump buckets of cold water on delusional fools than try to appease them. Ironically, it sometimes involves dropping a bucket of ice water on them, then defending their right to be a fool. This is what makes a brainiac atheist like me perhaps infuriating, but vastly superior to a mad dog jihadi. Eh wot?

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:31 pm

          Your rudeness to the very respectful Wellington was simply uncalled for, Don.

          Of course you are vastly superior to a Jihadi—but isn’t that setting the bar pretty low?

          And *of course* it makes a difference as to whether one make enemies here—Jihad Watch is not just a site on which to trade inconsequential academic opinions; it is a community of Anti-Jihadists.

          If you cannot recognize your allies because you have differing spiritual beliefs, then you are in a great deal of trouble.

          The fact is that Islam threatens *all* of us—Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Animists, Agnostics, Atheists, and all other non-Muslims.

          If you cannot see that, then perhaps you are not such a “brainiac” after all.

        • pumbar says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:34 pm

          ” I could care less about people who don’t like to hear the truth”.
          Shouldn’t that be “I couldn’t care less”?

          “then defending their right to be a fool”.
          Shouldn’t that be ‘than”, not “then”?

          Just suggestions brainiac…

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:44 pm

          Don McKellar said
          “worthless a sub-human web board commentator ”
          ——————————–
          ????

          You don’t respond well to criticism.
          You could pause for some self-reflection.
          For someone who claims to be a “brainiac” and “vastly superior” and capable “advanced by logic and critical thinking ” you are truly quite deficient here today.

          This is not about flattering Robert Spencer as if to imply by use of namedrop compliments that he supports your position.
          Speak for yourself.

        • Champ says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:52 pm

          Don McKellar wrote:

          I will say whatever I want, because what I say is honest.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          I’ve detected a major **double standard** in Don’s thinking. Seems that Don can state what he wants, but Wellington cannot? Hmm …

          Don, did you honestly think that by being “honest” and stating that all religions are “complete nonsense” that you wouldn’t take a little flack for that remark? Really?! Well, the world doesn’t work that way, pal, and if you set out to insult people, then you should be mature enough to expect a little flack in response; and Wellington’s comment was fair and reasonable, whereas yours was NOT. Telling him to “shut your hole” only reveals your lack of character.

          Like Gravenimage pointed out, Wellington is highly respected and he’s probably one of our brightest and best–so step off, MISTER!

        • deja vu says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 12:29 am

          Becoming arrogantly dismissive when met with an argument they don’t agree with is a common reaction of both Muslims and atheists. Watch any debate between Richard Dawkins and a Christian apologist such as William Lane Craig or John Lennox. You will find it isn’t long before Dawkins lets himself and his argument down by becoming obnoxious and condescending, while his scholarly opponent calmly responds with courtesy and respect.

          In addition, many eminent scientists have distanced themselves from Richard Dawkins simply because of his conceit and sheer contempt for the point of view of his opponent. If someone loses control during a debate or discussion, it only reveals the insecurity of their beliefs.

          http://www.bethinking.org/atheism/dawkins-refuses-god-debate-with-william-lane-craig

          From The Guardian, not known for its bias towards Christianity:

          ‘What is new is the belittling posture toward religious believers and the fury of the polemics. The New Atheism is certainly a far cry from the model of civilised interlocution between “old atheist” Bertrand Russell and Father Copleston that took place and was broadcast on BBC Radio in 1948. The New Atheists could learn a lot from the likes of Russell, whose altogether more powerful approach was at once respectful and a model of philosophical precision.’

          http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/oct/22/richard-dawkins-refusal-debate-william-lane-craig

      • Champ says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 10:11 pm

        Not smart, Don McKellar, to pick enemies when you don’t need to.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I completely agree with you, Wellington. Stating that all religions are “complete nonsense” on Jihad Watch only alienates people of faith that are *truly* peaceful. A smarter man would pick his battles much better, here, by focusing on the real enemy: islam and company.

      • Wellington says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 12:43 am

        Well, Don McKellar, I guess that’s your way of telling me you won’t be getting back to me about the Sistine Chapel, Aquinas’ Summa Theologica, Gothic cathedrals, Gregorian Chant and the like. That’s OK. I’ll manage without your commentary on these subjects.

        And hey, great good luck in winning friends, influencing people and building broad-based coalitions. Oh yeah, go for it.

        • Don McKellar says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 12:59 am

          “And hey, great good luck in winning friends, influencing people and building broad-based coalitions. Oh yeah, go for it.”

          As a commenter on a web board?

          AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA

          Look, as is obvious to anybody with a brain, including scarecrows with degrees in hand, reading my no-nonsense posts “wins” any “friends” I care to make here or anywhere else on the internet. And I’ll keep on making them, exactly as I feel fit.

          Besides, you and all the rest who have responded negatively are very, very lucky to have non-friends who are your non-enemies like me. I’m not a blood-thirsty jiahdi thumpig their head on the floor praying the moon god, b’Allah, looking to kill those who don’t bow to their diety. I’m on your side in spite of your silly imaginary religious beliefs that help you sleep at night. Me and Bill Maher. Welcome to the reality of your true allies against Islam. Deal with it.

        • Don McKellar says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 1:02 am

          “I’m not a blood-thirsty jiahdi thumpig their head on the floor praying the moon god, b’Allah, looking to kill those who don’t bow to their diety.”

          I’m not a blood-thirsty jihadi thumping their head on the floor praying the moon god, b’Allah, looking to kill those who don’t bow to their diety.

          Geez I wish I could edit my posts on here to fix typos. But I understand why Robert has disabled this feature. He has good reason to.

        • Champ says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 2:52 am

          Now Don is exaggerating: no one is claiming that he is a blood-thirsty jihadist.

          And I’m struck by the irony in “MrBrainiac’s” comment here …

          Don wrote:

          “Welcome to the reality of your true allies against Islam. Deal with it.”

          There are many people of faith who are Don’s allies against islam, but Don is the one who cannot DEAL WITH THAT. Interesting that he feels the need to mock people of faith.

          So, Don shouldn’t mind being called a “silly” atheist who believes in “complete nonsense”. Of course not, he’s our ally.

        • Myxlplik says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 9:36 am

          Don

          Welcome to the counter jihad movement!

          As an Agnostic, I too wonder at the creation of the universe. At what point, do you get something from nothing, and today I think I’ve seen the creation of a demigod through the sheer weight of your ego and arrogance, due to the formation of an “ego singularity” through which time and space break down causing an alternate “multiverse” to develope spontaneously through a tear in the fabric of space-time. I believe somewhere on the other side of this event there is a new alternate reality called the “Donverese” where you are God.

          It might be difficult to call myself Agnostic, after witnessing your creation event, I might be a Don worshiper now.

          :).

        • Champ says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 3:29 pm

          Funny comment, Myxlplik!! …I split my side from laughter! 😀

      • PJG says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 6:19 am

        Wellington, Champ, Gravenimage;
        I love you guys: you don’t know how much.
        Every day for so many years I have enjoyed and respected what you have said.
        Thank God for the likes of you!
        I wish I had your energy and fortitude and knowledge.
        Your adversaries can only hlope to counter your arguments…
        please keep going…we need you!

        • Champ says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 3:25 pm

          Dear PJG! …thank you for your kind words, they really made my day! 🙂

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 9:30 pm

          Thank you so much much, PJG! I feel the same way about you, Wellington, and Champ.

        • Wellington says

          Nov 17, 2014 at 12:11 am

          Echoing Champ and gravenimage, thank you, PJG, for what you wrote. I was touched. Take good care.

    • Leslie says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:33 am

      Don, as a Christian, thank you for that. I don’t care that you find my beliefs irrational and illogical, your analysis of the situation at hand is absolutely correct. This has NOTHING to do with multiculturalism, diversity, or peace/love/understanding/whatever other unicorn-induced noun you want. It has to do with conquest, plain and simple. I wish everyone was as clear-headed (andI will still pray for you). 😉

    • Betty says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:28 am

      they did but only in the disguise of muslims

    • ManchesterLad says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:34 am

      I am an atheist too. However, I really can’t see any point in making such a provocative posting as yours on this site. On here, we are all concerned about the serious problem of the scourge of Islam being allowed to destroy our western cultures.

      I may not agree on many things with many Christians, but I respect their religion because a) it does not harm me that they believe these things, b) holding a religion seems to help many people, c) I think Christianity is basically a decent religion with values I 99% agree with and d) they have the right to believe in whatever they like as far as I am concerned.

      I also know I can argue – no holes barred if need be – with many Christians friends and I have no worries that they are going to behead me on the way home, rape my daughter, vandalise my car/house or tip off their more religious friends who may decide to kill me themselves.

      To equate Christianity with Islam as if they are both comparable ideologies is a basic mistake.

  8. keith says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    Wow, how about start reading the Left Behind novels. Revelations in the flesh.

  9. Bill says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    Whenever Muslims have conquered Christian lands they converted the churches into mosques if they didn’t burn them down. Now Christians in this country are willingly handing over their churches to Muslims. This is disgraceful, abominable and not pleasing to God. I expect we will see more and more of this in the coming days.

  10. Frank Tillman says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:52 pm

    http://tinyurl.com/lonvkw3

  11. Marblenecltr says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:58 pm

    The Muslim community is tremendously wealthy and most capable of building places for prayer for themselves. By the way, such places would be/are for themselves, non-Muslims not allowed. The purpose for their services in the Washington National Cathedral is to lay claim to it and America. It is a part of jihad.

  12. gravenimage says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 6:59 pm

    Woman proclaiming Christ ejected from Muslim prayers at National Cathedral
    …………………………

    A Christian proclaiming that Christ is Lord in a Cathedral? How “Islamophobic”! sarc/off

    And note the aggrieve tone of the article, that “of course” someone would interrupt this festival of “love, respect and understanding”.

    But what goes on at Jumu’ah prayers?

    Part of the Rak’a is the recitation of Al-Fatihah (Surah 1 of the Qur’an). This is what they pray for:

    “Guide us to the straight path, the path of those whom You have favored,

    “Not of those who have incurred your wrath, nor of those who have gone astray.”
    …

    “Those who have incurred your wrath” are Jews, and “those who have gone astray” are Christians.

    The latter phrase comes from Qur’an 4:44:

    “Consider those to whom a portion of the Scriptures was given [i.e., Christians]. They purchase error for themselves and wish to see you go astray.”

    The Friday prayer is even more offensive to Jews and Christians, as it requires not only two recitations of Al-Fatihah, but also Qur’an 62 – The Friday Congregation – and Qur’an 63 – The Hypocrites. Qur’an 62 specifically condemns Gentiles as being “in gross error,” and Jews are compared with “a donkey laden with books.” Qur’an 63 condemns “hypocrites,” those who have renounced their Muslim faith. “They are the enemy. Guard yourself against them.”

    Even more alarming, attacks—sometimes fatal—on Infidels, including Christians, are extremely common in Dar-al-Islam after Friday prayers where the faithful have been whipped up by violent Kutbahs (“sermons”).

    And look who inveigled this travesty:

    CAIR, which shills for all sorts of Muslim savagery, and haas close links to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, as does the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).

    Another thing these twits at the National Cathedral certaily have no idea about: that a place where Muslim prayers have been held is *henceforth considered a Mosque* by Muslims. They may not be able to act on this for a few years, but if the Islamization gets much worse, I’m sure they will.

    There are few things supremacist Muslims enjoy more than seizing Churches and Temples for use as Mosques.

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:50 pm

      Graven, I’m astonished at the content of these Al-Fatihah and other prayers that you exposed here.
      Thank you for all the research you share with us. I keep learning and learning…

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 9:40 pm

        These are the most common of Muslim prayers. Very telling…

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:50 pm

      “In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful”

      Just the Islamic window dressing on their uncouth Freaky Friday deception.

    • AnneM says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:59 pm

      The Muslims forget that Americans are ARMED to the teeth.

  13. epistemology says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    It’s crazy. The muzzies are taking over. But it’s our own fault in the Western countries. We mustn’t accept that any longer. Islam is evil. When will our politicians and religious representatives understand that?

  14. Bettina says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I mean, the utter ugliness of all that one-sided entitlement has to explode in everybody’s faces, sooner or later! I fear that it will be later, a noxious trend set up by our liberals, in direct opposition to the values they preach — including our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.
    I am so sick of these liberals and their suicidal outreach to the muslim crowd!

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm

      With all due respect to Muslims with their overflowing feelings of entitlement,

      Islam is a pig bath. — (Islam is Muhammad)

    • Januk36 says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:32 am

      Actually a great opportunity to apply the rules of Alinsky and ask for more and more signs of tolerance by performing christian baptism, hindu-weddings and jewish prayers in different mosques on a weekly basis.

      Let’s prove that Islam IS a tolerant religion and let’s ask “leaders” that they contribute to foster and further such events.

      Good luck

  15. TNT says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    This is a great victory for political jihad, how many types of jihad are there? Let’s see, car jihad, rape jihad, beheading jihad, conversion jihad, media jihad, knife jihad, bomb jihad, internet jihad, food jihad( sneaking halal meat into the food markets), fashion jihad, patrol jihad, alcohol jihad, burning flag jihad, dog jihad, bacon jihad, liberal jihad, racist jihad, freedom of speech jihad, school jihad, college, university jihad, Facebook jihad, YouTube jihad, twitter jihad, financial srvcs jihad, church jihad, bank jihad, government policy jihad. What jihad did I miss? Oh yes big one brainwashing jihad. Of government and church officials. Jew jihad, Christian jihad, Hindu jihad, buddist jihad, culture jihad, gay jihad, atheist jihad, Christmas jihad. Poppy Remembrance Day jihad, democracy jihad, next it will be valentine jihad, I wonder will we be be allowed to keep thanks giving? How much money did they demand from the church today as they prayed for the destruction of Christianity and the western world? And is the national cathedral RC or Protestant ? Don’t matter it’s a Kafir church, but if only what they prayed in there today was understood by the church officials they would have been thrown out ! Blasphemers. Proud of the lady who stood up for Christ The Lord and his house. Should be more Christians doing that. Acceptance of Islam ancient ( Baal ) practices. God never accepted it, or tolerated it. And here are church officials accepting it. He should of preached the Gospel to these people and it should of been the condition of the visit.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm

      TNT wrote:

      next it will be valentine jihad, I wonder will we be be allowed to keep thanks giving?
      ………………………..

      It’s already started, TNT:

      “School Bans Valentine’s Day Cards, Candy”

      http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/school-bans-valentines-day-cards-candy.html

      I haven’t found anything specific about Thanksgiving yet, but given how many Fatwas there are against Muslims celebrating it, I’m sure we’ll see it soon.

      Slightly off-topic, but I ran across this bit of stunning ignorance from an Imam as to what the American Thanksgiving story is all about:

      Imam Bushawn Akhbar

      “The original intent of this day is not was not (sic) to give thanks with a turkey or raoming (sic) chicken. Instead it was a day resulting from landing on a land that wa (sic) thought to be non-existent. those who landed were sentence (sic) to death on the seas for crimes against the spanish (sic) government. they happened on this new land a apeople (sic) their (sic) and in their joy decided to take some of them back home to prove their clain (sic) to the sentencing government. this acquisition almost certainly meant enslavement. Methods were devised which resulted in the contless (sic) loss of lives… thereafter, the day became a day misnomered (sic) Discovery and then of Thanks….”

      He seems to have conflated the Pilgrims with Columbus’ discovery of the Americas, and then gotten both of them—and everything else—spectacularly wrong.

      http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/can-i-give-thanks-and-throw-down-on-some-turkey-this-week/

      This post is in the comments section.

  16. jewdog says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:11 pm

    Respect for Muslims as people should not extend to their toxic ideology. Inviting Muslim worship into a Christian service accords a deceptive sense of sanctity to religious canons which are used to persecute Christians.
    A better way to deal with Muslim persecution of Christians would be to educate parishioners about the problematic text and tenets of Islam so that they won’t be naïve. Forewarned is forearmed. Onward infidel soldiers.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:28 pm

      “Inviting Muslim worship into a Christian service accords a deceptive sense of sanctity to religious canons which are used to persecute Christians.”
      —————–
      So very true

      if we must …
      Let them have their charade with their pandering dhimmi do’s
      in exchange for a nightly airing of Islam’s filth on the 6 o’clock news.

      • Bettina says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm

        “… in exchange for a nightly airing of Islam’s filth on the 6 o’clock news.” What a lovely, impossible idea, JB.

  17. Jay Boo says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    And now for a moment to reflect on what liberals
    The ALLAH AKBAR complacency conspiracy hides under the cover of diversity.
    Most people including you of (anti-jihad) have not been paying attention to the covert psychological conditioning using the sound of (Allah Akbar) to secretly infiltrate all aspects of our society.
    Obama says, “The most beautiful of all sounds” or something to that effect.
    It is not just the John McCain Thanksgiving (Allah Akbar means ‘give thanks’)
    or even the 911 Allah Akbar from bug-eyed imams posing dialog of interfaith.
    http://shark-tank.com/2014/09/14/imam-chants-allah-akbar-during-911-memorial-at-catholic-university-in-florida/
    Islam’s full meaning of Allah Akbar is much richer and more nuanced than just this.

    Jimmy Felon secretly singing his … Akbar praise
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPftVQwyPs0

    In the mood … Akbar — Carol Burnett
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuJmjVkbD4U

    In the mood … Akbar –Puppets
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9fbnPKhfA

    And finally an Akbar farewell from an
    Allah Akbar brainwashed clucking chicken
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq-be7Y_yyY

    You see, Muslims must always insist we give them their due respect.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:19 pm

      And now for a moment to reflect on what liberals (neglect).

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:04 pm

      I’ll follow your links, but in the meantime must correct you about the meaning of Allah Akbar, which is Allah is Great. The phrase is also used in gratitude upon killing others in any jihad, including suicide during homicide.
      Because the actions of these beasts are predestined by their Allah, they must inevitably shout this phrase in thanks and relief, to purge their minds of responsibility for the atrocities they perpetrate.
      It’s a form of fanatical subservience and neatly passing the buck to that ungodly mirage.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 8:34 pm

        Bettina please look again, I was being facetious about (thanks) to mock John McCain who made that claim.

        Also, I might note that the very first link has some annoying pop-ups and I was tempted to omit it but it does has some good info.

        The other links are not serious but merely to give a break from the religion of hate.
        enjoy

        • Beagle says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 10:26 pm

          Based on usage we all know “Allahu akbar” relates to the act of shooting, exploding, or mutilating.

      • Tradewinds says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm

        “Allahu akbar” means “Allah is greatest.”

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 9:42 pm

          Allahu Akbar

          I forgot the u at the end
          Bettina had mentioned that Muslims use this expression in showing gratitude which may be true up to a point, excluding John McCain of course.

          Fear is another reason.
          Then of course there was that Jihad Watch video where the suicide vest-wearing Muslim blew himself up in his casket at his own funeral with many others as well while a cackle of panicked Allahu Akbar Muslims ran about.

  18. voegelinian says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    What’s the brave woman’s name, so we can express our profound gratitude for her spirited defense of the crux (Jesus) of Western Civilization? There have been a few moments these past years A.911 (e.g., Paul Weston reading Churchill in public in England and being arrested for it) that may count as the Movement’s equivalent of a “shot heard around the world”. This woman’s spirited defiance surely does.

    • Kepha says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm

      I agree, Voegelinian. As a Christian (but not an Episcopalian), I rejoice that someone stood up to denounce the blasphemy that so-called “Christian” clergy allowed. I think also of that brave woman in Germany who opposed using the Lutheran Church as a sounding board for Islam.

      I nominate the entire leadership of the Episcopal Church (formerly Protestant Christian) for the Dhimmi of the Year award.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:48 pm

      voegelinian
      good

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:07 pm

      Hello, Vogel — would you please insert a link to view the Paul Weston reading that he was amazingly arrested for?
      I researched Winston Churchill’s nuggets on islam and muslims, and what an eye-opener that was! I felt grateful to the man for his view of the whole damned thing.

      • voegelinian says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 8:33 pm

        Here’s a good link to the incident —

        http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/04/a-racially-aggravated-crime-under-section-4-of-the-public-order-act/

        In that article you’ll find other links for more info. As that article notes, Weston was originally charged with “A Racially Aggravated Crime Under Section 4 of the Public Order Act” — just for reading Churchill’s round condemnation of Islam in public on the steps of the Guildhall in Winchester, England!

        • Bettina says

          Nov 16, 2014 at 4:39 pm

          Don, you’re obviously trapped in a need to demean all religions, based on their leap of faith, even if they are combined it with reason.
          As a man whose intellect is supposedly superior to that of other people, why do you feel the need to besmirch their beliefs as “nonsense”?
          And what makes you think that your arrogant narcissism, which bloats all that you write, is acceptable on our pages? In your blind self-admiration, you even dared unveil your low-brow, belligerent intolerance at one of our luminaries, to wit Wellington.

          And to prove your delusions of atheistic superiority, you don’t hesitate to commit intellectual suicide here, by venting your antagonism at theists. Better get yourself a shrink and good meds — and quick!

    • Champ says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:38 pm

      I agree, Voeg …she’s *very* brave!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:27 pm

      Hear, hear!

      • Tradewinds says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 10:45 pm

        A heroine. She deserves fulsome praise and admiration.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 11:26 pm

          I propose that we revive the Jihadwatch Dhimmi and Anti-Dhimmi Awards and that this woman be nominated for Anti-Dhimmi of the Year (American).

          I am so glad that she stepped forward and spoke out.

        • Champ says

          Nov 14, 2014 at 11:32 pm

          Great idea, DDA!

  19. Kasey says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Really it’s all a lot of imaginative religious clap-trap anyway, but it’s also just that the Islamic stuff is far more evil than anything found in the Torah or The Bible, or even Mien Kampf. When the World finally wakes up to this, it may be too late.

    • Kepha says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 7:37 pm

      Last time I looked, Genesis (Bereshith), Exodus (Eleh ha shemoth), Leviticus (Veyiqra), Numbers (Bemidbar), and Deuteronomy (Eleh ha Devarim) , aka Torah, were the first five books of the Bible, not something separate from it. Kasey, you wouldn’t be from a Muslim background, would you?

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 7:44 pm

        Kepha
        You may be correct about a Muzzie trying to pull a fuzzy.

        I also notice the suspicious juxtaposition of “Torah or The Bible, or even Mien Kampf” in one sentence.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 14, 2014 at 7:47 pm

        Saying the (Torah or The Bible) could possibly be excused as an oversight but the addition of Mien Kampf leads to the conclusion that it was no accident.

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:13 pm

      The other difference between islam and the Bible is that Jews and Christians stopped believing in religious warring centuries ago, whereas muslims know that the koran cannot be criticized, abridged or modified in any way. So like the brutish, unthinking sheep that they are, they continue to believe that jihad is the way of their god. And shedding blood remains intrinsic to their “religion.”

    • Wellington says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:33 pm

      Beware of tu quoque reasoning, Kasey, or, even worse, deception, as Kepha and Jay Boo already understandably suspect.

  20. CogitoErgoSum says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    This is how interfaith dialogue goes with the Muslims. The Christian tries to speak and is immediately hauled away. Say, how is that new mega-mosque coming along in Lanham, Maryland (the one being built by Turkey) and when will Christians be invited to celebrate Easter Sunday services there?

  21. Salah says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    I’ll say it again: Islam is not the real problem. Islam is a pure lie that can be defeated in a jiffy were it not for our so-called leaders, both secular and religious.
    Our first battle in the war against Islam MUST start here, in our own backyards. Unless we are honest enough to admit it we are wasting our time, and losing the war.
    PC leaders must be removed and brought to justice, even if it’s the Pope himself.

    • Bettina says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:18 pm

      I LIKE your tone, dear Salah!

    • Wellington says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 8:25 pm

      I agree, Salah. The first and foremost problem in man’s history is not evil but rather the exculpation of evil by clueless people (Ayn Rand drove home this point unremittingly). Arguably, no better example of this could be found in all of the pages of history than what is presently transpiring now in the West, courtesy of Western elites (e.g., Cameron and Kerry) who will, if truth prevails (which I think it will but not before much unnecessary loss), go down as just about the most destuctive elites of all time.

      • Bezelel says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 7:24 am

        Wellington, Discerning good and evil can be toyed with, right and wrong can be too but there is a much broader base.

  22. Richie says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 7:53 pm

    I can’t believe that the EVIL that is Islam was allowed to contaminate a house of the lord. Disgusting

  23. mortimer says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/23/stop-opening-churches-to-muslims/

    CANON MARK DURIE: Stop opening churches to Muslims

    Islamic prayers cursing Christians and Jews have no place in chapel

    A prominent element in Islamic daily prayers is the recitation of Al-Fatihah (the Opening), the first chapter of the Koran. Often described as a blessing, Al-Fatihah has a sting in its tail. After introductory praises, the final sentence of Al-Fatihah is a request for guidance “in the straight path” of Allah’s blessed ones, not the path “of those against whom You are wrathful, nor of those who are astray.”

    Who are the ones who are said to be under Allah’s wrath or to have gone astray from his straight path? According to the revered commentator Ibn Kathir, Muhammad himself gave the answer: “Those who have earned the anger are the Jews, and those who are led astray are the Christians.”

    Al-Fatihah is as central to Islamic devotion as the Lord’s Prayer is to Christians: It is recited at least 17 times a day as part of daily Muslim prayers. Yet according to Muhammad himself, this prayer, which is on the lips of every pious Muslim day and night, castigates Christians as misguided and Jews as objects of Allah’s wrath.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 1:37 am

      Thanks for reminding us all about that excellent article by Rev Dr Mark Durie – who is, in fact, a parish priest within the Anglican communion.

      Maybe it needs to be sent to every one of the clergy at the National Cathedral.

      Not in an email as a link, but copied and printed out onto *paper* and sent in an envelope, by snailmail.

      Or do we have any jihadwatchers who live in Washington, who could go along in person, attend a service and then afterwards politely offer a copy of Mark Durie’s article to the clergy? (For good measure, such a “strike team” could take along a nice copy of his book on dhimmitude, “The third choice” and his book about Christianity vs Islam, “Which God?”, and the Barnabas fund booklet on sharia, “What is Sharia?”, and Patrick Sookhdeo’s excellent booklet, “Is the Muslim Isa the Biblical Jesus?” The complete tell-it-like-it-is information pack, capable of being read through in a day or less than a day).

  24. somehistory says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    What is really disgusting about the article is its implying…by outright saying it…that there is *love* going on in that building when the muslims are praying to their false god, baal…that *respect and understanding* are happening during those prayers.

    And I can’t help it; I am reminded of when Jesus went into the Temple, “a house of prayer,” a building dedicated to His Father, the God of the Hebrews, the same God that Christians worship, and threw out those who were making it a “den of robbers (Matthew 21:13).” His righteous anger was manifest.
    I can understand if this lady feels like her place of worship has been violated by those who don’t even recognize her right to worship differently. If I were a *member* there, I would never return. I’m sure that is what these muslims want. What those in a position to allow, and did allow, the prayers to baal to be said inside desire and expect, is a mystery to me.
    But, the beast is still growing in power.

  25. Bettina says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Not only in mecca, Harry, but in ANY filthy mosque whatsoever. To my knowledge, all infidels must ask for entry, or at least, deal with general suspicion and informal questioning about their visit. Let alone actually worship in those hellholes.

  26. Davegreybeard says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 8:23 pm

    Yet, only one very brave woman speaks out against the defilement of her Church.

    Where the hell are the rest of the Christians?

    I would ask you Christians, what does it take for Satan to triumph?

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:03 pm

      If I might suggest that staging a (peaceful) Friday flash mob might get some media attention.

      • deja vu says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 12:42 am

        Great idea, Jay Boo. They could sing ‘A Mighty fortress is our God’ for starters.

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:40 am

      Davegreybeard, so far two women have had the courage to speak out by disrupting these abhorrent services.

      What I would like to know is, where are the *men*?!

  27. mortimer says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 8:57 pm

    CANON MARK DURIE says “Stop opening Christian sanctuaries to Muslims” http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/23/stop-opening-churches-to-muslims/
    Islamic prayers cursing Christians and Jews have no place in chapel

    QUOTES:

    “Churches should not welcome into their buildings the veneration of Isa the Islamic Jesus, who, as a true Muslim, is intended to bring about the final, violent destruction of Christianity. By all means, let Christians show kindness to their Muslim neighbors, but the SENTIMENTS EMBEDDED IN ISLAMIC DAILY PRAYERS, which CURSE JEWS as the target of Allah’s wrath AND CHRISTIANS for going astray, can have no place in a Christian church – even if recited in the cadences of classical Arabic.”

    “”A prominent element in Islamic daily prayers is the recitation of Al-Fatihah (the Opening), the first chapter of the Koran. Often described as a blessing, Al-Fatihah has a sting in its tail. After introductory praises, the final sentence of Al-Fatihah is a request for guidance “in the straight path” of Allah’s blessed ones, not the path “of those against whom You are wrathful, nor of those who are astray.”

    Who are the ones who are said to be under Allah’s wrath or to have gone astray from his straight path? According to the revered commentator Ibn Kathir, Muhammad himself gave the answer: “Those who have earned the anger are the Jews, and those who are led astray are the Christians.”

    Al-Fatihah is as central to Islamic devotion as the Lord’s Prayer is to Christians: It is recited at least 17 times a day as part of daily Muslim prayers. Yet according to Muhammad himself, this prayer, which is on the lips of every pious Muslim day and night, CASTIGATES Christians as misguided and Jews as objects of Allah’s wrath.”

  28. abad says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    Muslims never should have been allowed inside the National Cathedral to begin with. Only Christians should be allowed in churches. And Muslims do NOT worship the Christian God. They don’t even recognize Jesus as Savior, having died for their sins.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 1:19 am

      “Only Christians should be allowed in churches.”

      Only Christians should *conduct the service*/ “lead prayers” in churches, yes.

      But as to being closed to *all* outsiders: no. I wouldn’t agree with that.

      Traditionally, despite the risk, the Christian gathering has always been open to “seekers”, to outsiders who want to find out about the faith. Such persons are invited simply to conduct themselves politely and to watch and listen; they do not have to join in prayers and they are not permitted to participate in communion (because to participate, one must be a baptised and confessing *believer*).

      In communist Cambodia (but before Pol Pot) there was a zealous young Communist who was ordered, by those above him in the Party, to infiltrate some Christian meetings. I cannot recall whether he was told by his superiors to pretend to *be* a Christian, or to merely pose as a “seeker”. But in any case, he trotted off dutifully to the meetings…and he encountered a reality that blew him away. His pretence ceased to be pretence; he was thoroughly and soundly converted and catechised. And subsequently clung to Christ even through the horror of the Pol Pot years and the great persecution at that time; and today he is part of the resurgent Church in Cambodia.

  29. weavo2 says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/national-cathedral%e2%80%99s-first-muslim-prayer-service-interrupted-by-heckler/ar-BBdMdoT?ocid=U220DHP

    From the above article:

    The event was closed to the public and held under heavy security, with police checking every name and bag. Organizers from several area Muslim institutions said there had been concerns about security and threats after the event was publicized and that they and cathedral officials had wanted to limit it to a small and selected group.

    ——-

    Muslims still playing the victim card even when they desecrate our churches with their presence.

  30. paleo- conservative says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    That lady is a heroine to me. i know everyone will pooh- pooh her – but not me. She was perfect, decent and brave.

    I tire of the “theater of cruelty’ that is Western leadership these days- including the politicos, ‘culture creators”, media and even our spiritual leadership.. Messing with people’s minds and emotions. Hurting and confusing them.

    It has gone on much too long now.

  31. Auckland says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    You filthy bigots have this all wrong! It is vital that the nobel muslim people have ready access to church facilities so that they might judge more ably how well such facilities might meet requirements for future mosque conversions as required. /sarc

  32. Bezelel says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    I can’t think of a better way to reinforce the muslimes delusions of grandeur. When you have a group that can justify mass murder of innocent civilians, children no less, they do NOT need encouragement. That is irregardless of religious identity.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:07 pm

      The reason that jealous Muslims are so uncouth in their attention seeking rudeness
      is that deep down they realize that Islam is full of nothing but vain emptiness.

      • Bezelel says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 7:16 am

        JB, The muslimes are predictably disgusting. I get that part. I don’t condone The Church allowing the worship of strange gods in the “Sanctuary.” No good can come of it. Now the muslimes will claim the Cathedral as a mosk since they have made their prayers there.

  33. pongidae rex says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    So when is the last time there were Christian services in a mosque? Just asking.

  34. paleo-conservative says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:29 pm

    I hope that the press will leave her alone. They will only try to goad her more and hurt her or encourage her to hurt or humiliate herself. Then everyone can play “who is more holy than she”. Look at her face. She is hurt and confused and profoundly sad.

    and there is no mercy.

  35. Anon says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:32 pm

    “Tolerance” can solve *anything* dontcha know, just ask the families who still live in “tolerant” Oslo.

    “He had killed 67 people and wounded 33 more by then.” “…21-year prison sentence handed to him by Norway’s courts, which is the maximum amount of time any law breaker in Norway can receive.”

    A look back at the Norway massacre
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-look-back-at-the-norway-massacre/

    The greatest free country on earth was not created through “tolerance” it was created by the establishment of law based on Judeo-Christian absolute truth.

    • nationalist says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 9:37 pm

      “tolerance” is when someone is stepping on my toe on purpose and I can politely tolerate the pain……………………or I can punch him in the head.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:18 pm

      Anon
      Let us never forget that an alliance of dimwit politicians collaborating with Muslims are the real ones to blame.
      Anders pulled the trigger but who goaded him with their indifference to those suffering under Muslim infiltration.
      Another example is the rape gangs of Britain where young British girls, mere children pleaded for help as cowardly politicians smugly said not our problem.
      What ever one says against Anders no one can deny that he forced Norway’s politicians to be held accountable for their “not our problem attitudes”. They asked for it.

  36. Charlie Griffith says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Can’t resist this, folks:

    Maybe that Rev.Canon in our National Cathedral will be hoist on her own petard. [figuratively speaking]

    • nationalist says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:06 pm

      Not at all. You watch. It will be that poor woman who will be forced to apologize or some other dramatic occurrence.

  37. PGuud says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    Sickening! Absolutely sickening! Heads should roll for this. It’s suicidal madness.

    Do not support the National Cathedral. May it rot!

    Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.

  38. Boston Tea Party says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    Jesus said that we should love and pray for our enemies–this is true. But obviously, he understood the reality that we would absolutely HAVE enemies, and that it’s our duty to oppose their false beliefs. This is a fundamental truth that many Christians today don’t understand.

  39. pumbar says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    I wonder what happened to the bike gang?

    • paleo-conservative says

      Nov 14, 2014 at 10:55 pm

      What is the point of protesting a thing like this? Muslims and their non-muslim buddies enjoy and even engineer our pain and confusion. Some even make a living from it.

      • pumbar says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 6:43 am

        That’s the counsel of despair. If that were true what would be the use of doing anything against this?

  40. HenDanK says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 10:57 pm

    God bless this woman for her courage to stand up for the truth.

  41. sense says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 11:35 pm

    your President is a huge part of this movement folks – awake and see how many links he has to the Brotherhood.

  42. danny says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 11:38 pm

    If the national cathedral can hold same-sex marriage, why can’t they hold a muslim call for prayer. The national cathedral had long became a synagogue of satan.

  43. Edward says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    ‘Woman proclaiming Christ ejected from Muslim prayers at National Cathedral’

    One moment please! [—]

    News-break from Pakistan – “Religion of peace strikes again: Pakistani Christian man and pregnant wife burned alive” (11/11/2014) – Written by Allen West on November 12, 2014

    http://allenbwest.com/2014/11/religion-peace-strikes-pakistani-christian-man-pregnant-wife-burned-alive/

    And now back to the Muslim Friday Peaceful Prayers at the DC National Cathedral

    http://www.nationalcathedral.org/webcasts/sunday_flv2.html

    Ooops, sorry video not available!

    Maybe divine intervention has caused a technical problem. Maybe our Omnipotent Triune God is angered. He has made it known that He is a jealous God.

    Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.”

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the National Cathedral bricks mortar turns into sand if the cathedral becomes a muslim mosque!

  44. monkfoobar says

    Nov 14, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    When will Christian services be held in a Episcopal church much less a mosque?

  45. Kepha says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 12:17 am

    The Washington Cathedral is just about the highest piece of ground in DC. Doubtless the symbolism of Muslims occupying the place, even for ever so short a stretch, excites a few jihadis.

    But worse yet is the self-destruction that has been practiced by the Episcopal Church ever since I was a kid. It’s about par for the dhimmified “Mainline” denominations that a female cleric (who probably has about as much knowledge of traditional Christian doctrine as she has about the surface of Pluto) invites in the Muslims all in the names of “diversity” and “tolerance”.

    This, BTW, is one more reason why I oppose female clergy.

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:51 am

      Well said Kepha.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 1:06 am

      “This, BTW, is one more reason why I oppose female clergy.”

      Really? What’s her gender got to do with whether she’s a dhimmi or not?

      As far as I am concerned, her gender is an irrelevancy. There seem in any case to be a plentiful supply of *male* ordained clergy who are doing *exactly the same*.

      I can see an awful lot of male clergy who are grovelling dhimmis. But if femaleness predisposed to dhimmitude and heresy, whence come the male heretics and dhimmis? Can you *prove* that, at the present time, there are proportionally more female heretics than males, more female dhimmis than males, among the leadership of the Protestant churches? (The Orthodox and Catholics do not permit female ordination; nevertheless, it doesn’t seem to have protected many of their clergy from dhimmi attitudes).

      You have, of course, observed that the person who *defied* and *denounced* this folly of having Muslim “prayers” inside a Christian church, was…**female** also? Where were the boldly orthodox *male* clergy who should have stepped up to the plate? For that matter, where were the boldly orthodox male *laity*???

      If orthodoxy is found most especially among males qua males, where were the men?

      (I would remind you also of the recent incident in Germany, where a Christian woman spoke up and invoked the Lordship of Christ over Germany, in defiance of allah and his minions. Where were the *men*? Where were the fully-orthodox bible-believing ordained male clergy – or, for that matter, male *laity* – defying the imam and invoking the blood of Christ to break the curses of allah?).

      • Kepha says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 3:34 pm

        I’ll tell you where the orthodox male Episcopalian clergy were : in this part of the USA, they are about as common as blue unicorns on a sunny morning.

  46. deja vu says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 1:04 am

    The views of the Dean of Washington National Cathedral throw a great deal of light on their eagerness to host Muslim Friday Prayers. Like his fellow traveller Richard Dawkins, he does not believe in God.

    ‘ He isn’t too keen on the idea of life-long commitment or fidelity in marriage, either. But he’s in the bag for gay marriage and has personally assured Dr Richard Dawkins that he also “doesn’t believe in the God” that Dr Dawkins doesn’t believe in.

    That sounds like a real dome scratcher, since Dr Dawkins has made it abundantly clear that he doesn’t believe in any kind of deity. However it all comes into focus when the top priest at the cathedral that is often called our nation’s “spiritual home” announces that he’s a “nontheistic Christian.”

    Aside from the fact that this sounds like he just announced he’s the drug dealer for Narcotics Anonymous, this preposterous statement does fit in the drawer alongside Dean Hall’s other commentary.

    No wonder the Washington Post oozes all over him in this article. He’s the kind of religious leader they hanker after: A “priest” who gets his beliefs from reading polls just like everybody else does in Washington.

    Dean Hall should fit right in on the beltway. His morals can “evolve” there along with everyone else’s.’

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/08/a-non-theistic-christian-now-running-the-washington-national-cathedral/

  47. Smart Guy says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 1:23 am

    The disappearance of the congregation from all churches that practice interfaith with Islam is the best thing that can happen to such scribes and pastors. Remember Jesus said, “Woe to you scribes and pharisees,” “Do not give what is Holy to dogs or swine” “Many will come on the basis of my name, saying, “Did we not peform mighty works in your name and preach in your name.”
    Yet I will say to them, “Get away from me you workers of lawlessness” “A sin against the Spirit cannot be forgiven”

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:02 am

      If anyone can stomach it, here’s a link to the Islamic service:

      Muslims ‘conquering’ Washington National Cathedral
      ‘To them, they are sending a sign that they have defeated us’

      http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/christians-muslims-conquering-washington-national-cathedral/#5HWxkC7Vwb6gXmjd.99

    • somehistory says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:14 am

      All true. And they will reap what they have sown in this action. After having sown the wind, they will reap the whirlwind (Hosea 8:7). God is not to be mocked (Galatians 6:7).

  48. Davegreybeard says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 1:35 am

    Thank you dumbles, for that refreshing blast of righteous feminine indignation.

    I’m ashamed to admit that Uncle Kepha almost had me nodding in agreement to his comment about “female clergy.”

    (This might have something to do with my request to speak at a local church about Islam. My request is as of yet unanswered and the pastor is, you guessed it, female. But that is a whole different and unrelated story.)

    But as you so pointedly noted, the ONLY voice speaking against this travesty was female while all her male “brothers” were either complicit or silent.

    Thank God for our courageous women who, of necessity, must occasionally slap us upside the head to bring us back to reality.

    • Rob Porter says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 8:09 am

      Yes, hats off to this lady and her convictions, and thank God for her, but, as you said, where were the men? Too many have been neutered.

      • Elaine Renaud says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 10:49 am

        First, there was ONE person who stood up? Are there not any people in the DC/Md./Va. area who call themselves Christians who would stand up with this lady?

        And second, does this now mean we Christians can take over the area mosques for our Wednesday night Bible studies? I didn’t think so.

        • Jack Gordon says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 7:36 pm

          The serious question here, naturally, is whether what goes on every day in the National Cathedral is really Christianity any longer? Just about every imaginable moral and theological principle traditionally associated with Christianity was long ago overthrown by those in charge of that establishment. Is it really any wonder that they don’t hesitate to lend their building to rituals honoring the pipe dreams of a desert pervert from long ago? I feel bad seeing that this poor brave lady hasn’t finally seen through the scam that is the Episcopal Church.

      • Shane says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 11:06 am

        The combination of the disease of liberalism and pacifism are destroying Christianity. Islam and Christianity are not compatible. Do not let them enemy trash your temple. Isn’t there something in the bible about protecting the temple from infidels?

        • Dennis Stewart says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 4:59 pm

          I am so glad I am a Roman Catholic. We will never tolerate this kind of garbage. Our church will NEVER be protastantized, femminized, or islamafied.

    • JOHN SPIELMAN says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 8:20 am

      Amen, Yes where were all the male CHRISTIAN LEADERS!

      • Alissa says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 9:37 am

        They were helping to eject her. What the hell!

        • Sense says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 4:30 pm

          Where are all the male leaders (of our churches)?
          “Thank God for this courageous woman”

          Two comments that I thoroughly agree with. I agree also that the Anglican Church (Episcopal in North America) has been completely infiltrated by PC especially Homosexuality.

          I feel that it is only when we get a courageous women like this finally speaking out against the disgusting “liberalism” that is destroying what is left of Christianity that we may be able to get some male leaders on board again.

          As soon as I even began to read the original article “…Rev canon Gina Campbell”, I could guess what was going on., as in “enough said!”

          Now back in the UK we have the former Archbishop of Canterbury tell us not to be concerned about Islam and that all our anxieties are misplaced. In this regard could the good archbishop please let us know how Anglican missionary outreach is going in the Middle East, or has it become a pointless, almost non-existent and mildly suicidal exercise?

    • Rob Porter says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 8:31 am

      Hi Davegreybeard, On second thought, lest we get carried away about the leading role of females – which is not intended to take anything away from the brave lady who disrupted this gathering – the individual who agreed to this foolish event was the Cathedral’s liturgical director, the Rev. Canon Gina Campbell,

      • Omega2 says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm

        ANY AND ALL CHRISTIAN CLERGY HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS DISGRACEFULL ACT NEED TO BE EXCOMMUNICTED! ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION BUT AN IDEOLOGY OF HATE AND DEATH AND CAN NEVER LIVE WITH ANY OTHER TRUE RELIGIONS! MAKE NO MISTAKE, BE ONE, PAY A TAX TO SURVIVE OR LOOSE YOUR PHYSICAL HEAD! JUST LOOK AT SYRIA AND IRAQ TODAY! YOU WANT THIS CRAP TO HAPPEN HERE!

      • Zuzana says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 7:24 pm

        Canon Gina is obviously ignorant. I am so sick and tired of reverends who put on the interfaith dialogue….as if they did not know how pisslam conquered all the other Christian lands. As if they did not now that pisslam knows no dialogue; only submission and jyzia. Gina is no Canon, she is a coward.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 8:38 pm

          Bravo! Well said.

    • Booner says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 11:42 am

      I seem to remember an Islamic rule that says that the National Cathedral is now a mosque.

      • Hummer says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 1:54 pm

        Or soon will be. America has got to stand up for America. Political correctness has got the Brits along with the rest of the EU so they are defeated. Many of us have had to fight literally in war against this evil ideology-where are they now to stand up and tell it like it is.

      • BroadDaylight says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 3:06 pm

        It is, and that was the whole idea, as commanded by old Mo’.

    • Kathy Thomas says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:33 pm

      The disgraceful thing about this is that there were not hundreds of ministers of Jesus Christ there WITH HER.!!!!!!!!!!!! Protest!

    • BroadDaylight says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      I witnessed 2 counts of “Assault On A Female.”Anyone else?

    • Dan says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:46 pm

      Surprised? Christian Church’s are not Christian. Not according to the Bible.

      Many are led by gay men and women. They embrace that that would destroy them.
      And destroyed shall they be.

      Don’t be so quick to credit women here. It was a Rev. Gina Cambell that organized it. She is not a Christian, she just thinks she is.

      2 Timothy 4:2-4
      The time will come when men will not endure sound doctrine, but will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts, and will turn aside from truth to fables. So he charged faithful teachers to preach the truth and rebuke such errors.

  49. Jayell says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 2:38 am

    I’ll be very brief. Mosques are for Islam. Cathedrals are for Christianity. If the moslems here wanted a suitable place for their prayers and nowhere else was available, could they not have just hired a large hall or something? Or do as they do in Paris and just commandeer the streets (without a by-your-leave for anyone else as usual, one notices!!). DO WHY THE HELL WERE THEY IN A CATHEDRAL??????

    • KC John says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:45 am

      Right on !

    • VictorMc says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:09 am

      Coz. they are troublemaking scum and there is no such thing as a ‘moderate’ Muslim. Never forget that there is NO SUCH THING. It’s against all their tenets written and spoken.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:33 am

      The Muslims did go there to PRAY.
      Islam is for politics not faith.
      The Muslims went there to DISPLAY

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 5:34 am

        correction
        did (not) go there to PRAY.

    • Rob Porter says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 8:17 am

      Why were they there? Because there are feckless imbeciles in the supposedly Christians camp who think that such gestures as this one in the National Cathedral will make of Muslims more loving, tolerant, less bigotted, less Christianophobic and more agreeable people. It won’t, but this is the delusion of the fool who agreed to such a gathering of people who reject our God and reject the Christ upon whom our Christian faith is based.

      As Robert pointed out, after all the Muslim savage butchery of Christians it would have been more appropriate for Muslims to invite Christians to a mosque.

  50. dsinc says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 2:45 am

    Rasool bribes journalists, is fired from the ANC, and then rewarded with ambassadorship to the USA. If you are crooked in South Africa you can go places.

    http://www.da.org.za/archive/rasool-appointment-continues-da-writing-to-president-zuma/

    http://www.news24.com/Tags/People/ebrahim_rasool

    • VictorMc says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:12 am

      Yeah down the pan, like the whole of South Africa. Their economy one of the finest in the world wrecked by the new ‘rulers.’ Corruption and violence endemic and deep rooted in society. Ask me again in another 3 years they will be another Zimbabwe or any other African country. They used to be a beacon of light until that lunatic Mandela came along.

  51. RichardL says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 3:07 am

    the symbolism is very powerful

    This woman might become the icon for the counter-jihad.

    We should help her become that icon.

  52. Charli Main says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 3:39 am

    “SO how long will it be until the Muslims are claiming that the Cathedral is now theirs?”
    You will know when they start adding minarets to the Cathedral, to symbolise yet another Muslim triumph over the Kaffirs

  53. Januk36 says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 4:24 am

    They will have clean the walls from all offending crosses.

    A priest asked in a debate whether the cathedral of Cordoba also known as “la mezquita” succintly replied that “some things you don’t share”.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:17 am

      The Spanish language has a couple of easily confused words that sound very similar.

      MOSQUITO …
      AKA “mozzie” in UK
      A mosquito is a diminutive parasitic blood-sucking disease carrying pest.

      MEZQUITA
      La mezquita is a place where the parasitic blood-sucking disease carrying delusional ‘Muzzie’ goes to pray.

  54. Derek Blow says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 4:54 am

    I have just emailed the cathedral the following:

    I have just seen online the use of your Cathedral for the islamic call to prayer and the video in which a Christian woman is ejected from the Cathedral for declaring that the the church exists because Christ died on the cross.
    I am utterly dismayed at your complete lack of judgement in this matter. Your photo-opportunity stunt is a betrayal not only of the Christians that use your church as a place of worship but it is a betrayal of Christ.
    Muslims deny the deity of Christ. That is not a two way street. It is not something on which you can compromise unless of course, like many of your Anglican cousins, you do not believe the deity of Christ.

    You are custodians of Christ’s church and you have betrayed that responsibility.

    Kind regards,

    Derek Blow

    • HenDanK says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:12 am

      Hi Derek,
      Thank you for emailing them. Your letter is reasonable and I wish it would prick a hole into their conscience. Unfortunately, that has been seared ages ago.

    • ViannaR says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:41 pm

      Exactly right, Derek. It is exhibition and it was not done appropriately.

    • voegelinian says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      “Muslims deny the deity of Christ. That is not a two way street.”

      It’s not merely that they deny the deity of Christ — it is also that their denial of the deity of Christ (among other Christian beliefs) is part of their supremacist expansionist blueprint for military conquest (to be waged by hook (violence) and by crook (deception).

      Jehovah’s Witnesses, for example, deny the deity of Christ; but no Christian should have a problem having an inter-faith service like this one where JWs are invited to participate in good faith — for the simple pragmatic reason that JWs don’t have a supremacist expansionist blueprint for military conquest that has already resulted in thousands of mass-murders of us (with more reasonably assumed to be in the horrific offing).

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 3:08 pm

        Very true. Jews also “deny the divinity of Christ”, but Jewish people have absolutely no supremacist, oppressive agenda towards Gentiles. I have had no problem attending Jewish/Christian interfaith events.

      • somehistory says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 6:01 pm

        Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t believe in the Trinity, but they do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Some may find this difficult to understand, but they do consider themselves Christian as they accept Jesus as Lord and Savior and the only Way to reach the Father in prayer, the only Way to have eternal life, which is promised.

    • Anne Sayers says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm

      Thank you for taking the lead, I am Canadian but have just emailed the Cathedral as well. A betrayal of Christ, unbelievable.

  55. gerard says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 4:55 am

    “SO how long will it be until the Muslims are claiming that the Cathedral is now theirs?”
    Evidently it is now theirs. A gift from the willing “clergy” of National Cathedral. Oops I mean National Mosque.

  56. nacazo says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:19 am

    What a great multiculturalist event!

    Next on the agenda:

    A Satanist mass.
    A Moloch child burning.
    An Aztec sacrifice of 100 prisoners of war to Huitzilopochtli

    /sarc off

  57. Zoltar says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:38 am

    You go girl, that is what St Paul would have done. And he was thrown out of many places of worship for saying so.

    • Lesley Robinson says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 8:41 am

      So was Jesus Christ.

      • deja vu says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 1:55 pm

        And the Dean (a male) who describes himself as a ‘non-theistic Christian’, presumably sets the tone.

        ‘He tells of sitting next to the renowned atheist Richard Dawkins at a dinner and discussing God. Hall told Dawkins, “I don’t believe in the God you don’t believe in either.” ‘

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/from-comedy-to-national-cathedral/2013/08/01/683906e2-f884-11e2-8e84-c56731a202fb_story.html

  58. Sense says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:40 am

    Let us reverse the situation, assume an ecumenical service was taking place and a black Muslim women interrupted and cried out “There is no god but Allah”, I am pretty sure she would now be well on the way to getting the next Nobel Peace Prize. Ridiculous, yes, but that is how most of our values have become.

  59. No Fear says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:45 am

    Muslims have a real problem believing God had a Son but they do not have a problem that the person telling them that God could not have a Son is a rapist , murderer , thief, child molester. What a weird bunch.

  60. Salome says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 6:17 am

    She shouted ‘Jesus Christ is Lord!’ How fitting. She merely uttered it. She wasn’t killing or maiming or raping anyone when she uttered it. Cf Allahu akhbar.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:00 am

      THe Huff Post said
      “The service was briefly interrupted by a lone protester who, according to the NBC4, shouted, “Why can’t you worship in your mosque, and leave our churches alone?” The woman was quickly escorted from the sacred space.”

      Notice how the Huff Post makes it all about THEM

      Notice how the Huff Post conveniently omitted “Jesus Christ is Lord”

      • onisac says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 7:20 am

        “Why can’t you worship in your mosque, and leave our churches alone?”

        Because their goal is to subjugate all who aren’t Muslim. The easiest way to do that is to convince the non-Muslims that Islam is the only true religion, all others are evil as in delivered from Satan. Islam’s goal is to conquer the entire world, so that their paradise can be achieved. So the males can all get 72 virgins.

        This sounds like a joke to us non-cult faithful. But to Muslims it all makes perfect sense. The people whom think Islam is parallel to other religions are ignorant fools.

        • Jay Boo says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 7:34 am

          But why did the Huff Post omit
          “Jesus Christ is Lord”

      • HenDanK says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 10:18 am

        Apparently, Huffpo will only print Jesus Christ when it is used as an expletive.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 3:21 pm

        Jay Boo wrote, quoting the Huffington Post:

        “The woman was quickly escorted from the sacred space.”
        ………………………

        Notice the implication that this woman was violating that sacred space by daring to say, “Christ is Lord”, while the bloody, supremacist, Hamas-and-Muslim-Brotherhood-involved Mohammedans were not. *Ugh*.

  61. Jay Boo says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 6:58 am

    Muslim puppet Obama is okay with this
    and Sharia Law
    and Ground Zero Mosque

    But insists that Christians have no right to oppose abortion
    http://news.yahoo.com/u-court-rejects-religious-objection-obamacare-contraception-deal-164613992.html

    Never Forget
    MUSLIMS are to blame for all of this

  62. Jay Boo says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:03 am

    10 years from now —
    Muslims will proudly honor kill their own daughters on the alter of this church.

  63. Randal says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:07 am

    2 Corinthians 6:14-18

    “14 Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Belial?[b] Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,

    “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them,
    and I will be their God,
    and they shall be my people.

    17
    Therefore go out from their midst,
    and be separate from them, says the Lord,
    and touch no unclean thing;
    then I will welcome you,

    18
    and I will be a father to you,
    and you shall be sons and daughters to me,
    says the Lord Almighty.”

  64. duh_swami says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:08 am

    If there is a road to hell, appeasement is it’s name. The National Cathedral needs a new sign over the door which reads, ‘abandon hope, all ye who enter here’. Once Allah is evoked by bismillah, Allah’s religion is established. The Church has now been consecrated in Allah’s name . A stain that does not wash off.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:28 am

      Don’t be so ready to throw in the towel

      The way to wash out that stain is to call Islam by its true name and boot their asses out.

      A side note to any Muslim Islamic slave readers.

      Muhammad was a disgraceful pig.
      Islam is a pathetic pig bath.
      Muhammad was without a trace of honor.
      The dogs of Medina still lift up one leg in his supposed ‘honor’.

      If Muhammad had even a hint of honor Muslims would not be so desperate to add (PBUH) after his name to cover up centuries of stench.

      I would say more but I do not want to risk saying anything that might bring legitimate offence from rude uncouth Muslims if that is possible.

  65. Scotty says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:11 am

    It’s an Episcopal church. Did you expect something else??

    • mortimer says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:12 am

      Don’t be snotty, Scotty. Canon Dr. Mark Durie (sociologist and theologian) has begged churches not to offer their sanctuaries for supremacist Islamic prayers!

      He points out that Muslim prayers insult both Christians and Jews and practically demand their subjugation as a consequence of their unworthiness.

      A Christian church cannot preach the Golden Rule and allow prayers that say Allah hates the Jews and that Christians who recite the creeds are doctrinally ‘astray’.

      The attempt to reach out to Muslims must stop short of letting them pray supremacist prayers even if they are in Arabic and no one understands the meaning except Muslims and a few Christian theologians who have MADE AN EFFORT TO LEARN.

      The Washington Cathedral clergy are TOO LAZY TO LEARN ABOUT ISLAM. I say to them: “Learn. Study Islamic doctrines. Do your job.”

      • HenDanK says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 10:27 am

        The Rev. Mark Durie is a wonderful source of information as to the truth of Islam. He is an Anglican pastor in Australia and would be more in align with the Anglican Church of North America, which separated from the ECUSA (Episcopal Church) when the ECUSA allowed an openly practicing homosexual to be a bishop. The ECUSA is becoming more and more irrelevant as their numbers decline. But, like the Quakers, despite their small numbers, they still have a knack for causing mischief.

      • John Stefan Obeda says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 6:27 pm

        @ Mortimer: I say to them: “Learn. Study Islamic doctrines. Do your job.” YES! I say the same, but I also say: be faithful pastors. Teach your people the truths of God’s Word as the apostle Paul did lest you are eternally lost together with your people that you are misguiding. Very important advice to all Christian pastors: “Be diligent in these matters; give yourself wholly to them, so that everyone may see your progress. Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. ” ( 1 Tim.4)

  66. onisac says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:22 am

    “Why can’t you worship in your mosque, and leave our churches alone?”

    Because their goal is to subjugate all who aren’t Muslim. The easiest way to do that is to convince the non-Muslims that Islam is the only true religion, all others are evil as in delivered from Satan. Islam’s goal is to conquer the entire world, so that their paradise can be achieved. So the males can all get 72 virgins.

    This sounds like a joke to us non-cult faithful. But to Muslims it all makes perfect sense. The people whom think Islam is parallel to other religions are ignorant fools.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:32 am

      They cover up their women in tents then drool over a ‘paradise’ with naked virgin vending machines.

      Psychopathic hypocrites

  67. IQ al Rassooli says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:40 am

    I shall keep on repeating this mantra until it awakens more comatose and spineless Americans~

    The Muslims are NOT at fault taking advantage of submissive and brain dead Christian clergy who believe there are any similarities between Muhammadan
    Islam & Christianity

    As I watched the video, I was literally disgusted at the utter cowardliness of the so called Christians of the congregation

    It is obvious that they ALL went to have a kumbaya session with the ‘peace loving’ Muslims

    No wonder the followers of Muhammad are not only asserting their rights to SHARIA in our democracies but also their gradual destruction and deliberate undermining of our rules of law aided and abetted by many of our treacherous politicians, clergy, academicians & media

    The female head of this ‘cathedral’ will be chopped off when Muslims take over her church (after being raped of course). She is supporting the very Islam that treats the females of the human species (750 million Muslim females) like DOMESTIC animals

    In a SANE and relatively MORAL world she should have been de frocked and thrown out of the cathedral before any Muslim would have been allowed to soil it but we are living in a Twilight Zone world

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

  68. Betty says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:41 am

    where was Robert in this , hey Robert did you go to this rally? you, Pam, Brigett, and some others should have showed up for this one. and filmed every thing.

  69. FookAbdul says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:51 am

    Seriously some Yanks are RETARDED to allow such a disgraceful thing as to let the muslims take over a major cathedral to spew their vermin like ideas. For christ’s sake, study history, the muslims have taken over so many churches throughout history and THEY NEVER GIVE THEM BACK. When they conquer America they will turn ALL churches into mosques (they will most certainly conquer America if the silly Yanks don’t wake the hell up, armageddon is what the muslims have in store for ALL humanity, mark my words.

  70. Richie says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 8:25 am

    Would Muslims ever allow Christians or Jews to pray at a mosque?

    I did’t think so

    Muslims would likely threaten to kill them

    • Ha Meshuga says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:14 am

      “threaten”?…You are feeling generous….

  71. angel says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 8:29 am

    muslims belong in mosques, not churches..

    liberal snobs hate christians anyhow…..like their muslim brothers

  72. duh_swami says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 8:36 am

    Geo Bush prayed at a mosque…To what is unknown…The entire episode was phony and I wondered why the mosque Imam allowed it.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 9:17 am

      Were they ok with Geo Bush saying, “Jesus is Lord”?

      Were the Muslims expected to refrain from saying, “Allahu Akbar”?

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:36 pm

      Swami, the Mosque “allowed” it because it was good pr for them.

      Notice that George Bush *prayed quietly* there.

      This was *not* a Christian mass being held at a Mosque, which Muslims would never have allowed.

  73. Almach says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 8:43 am

    and since when would a mosque ever permit a Catholic event to take place in its premises?

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:57 am

      The Obama administration wants to impose acceptance of abortion Catholics.

      We can presume that he will find a way to let Muslims make their own choice or offer an Islamic loophole clause.

  74. Joe Craig says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:09 am

    Get ready for the one world religion… This is a blasphemous act done in the Lord’s church..

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 11:00 am

      Not that I am advocating this but it would have been better if the 911 hijackers had accidentally flew into the UN.

  75. Jay Boo says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:30 am

    Watch this video and you will understand exactly why Anders Went on a killing spree in Norway.

    Public school students instructed to pray to Allah

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:50 pm

      I’m sorry, Jay Boo. Anders Breivik murdered his fellow Norwegians, and especially targeted children. Moreover, he actually openly *admires* Al Qaida.

      Yeah, “political correctness” is out of control in many parts of the West, but this madness is just as toxic.

    • Mirren10 says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:56 pm

      ”Watch this video and you will understand exactly why Anders Went on a killing spree in Norway.”

      Anders Breivik is a vicious murderer, and there is absolutely **no** justification for what he did, I don’t care *how* many public school students were instructed to pray to Allah.

  76. Sam says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:40 am

    I am beginning to believe in ALLAH. Otherwise, how can you explain inviting EVIL ISLAM and its cult members to a church to pray and kick out a christian woman with balls bigger than most of us men for telling the truth. Shame on all of us that we do not go and invite ourselves to mosques to pray to Christ NOW!

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:50 am

      All dogs lift a hind leg to Mecca
      in honor of Muhammad ibn cadela

  77. OldNorthState says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:45 am

    There are two basic camps of Muslims:

    ~ the “jihadist”, who wants to hack our heads off.

    ~ the “moderate”, perfectly content with the jihadist hacking our heads off.

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:11 pm

      ~ the “moderate”, perfectly content with the jihadist hacking our heads off.
      ————————————————————————————————–
      ………and happily funding it, either directly or indirectly.

      With the imposition of halal certification, we are all funding our own demise. In Australia a movement has begun to raise awareness of the fact that the huge fees paid to the Halal Certification authority are being sent to the Muslim Brotherhood to fund jihad.

      What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. How about refusing to buy halal certified goods wherever you live?

      http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/11/13/australian-company-has-no-regrets-over-halal-certification-backdown

  78. Cam Ma says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:46 am

    It won’t be too much longer before the Cathedral – which the Church can’t afford to maintain – actually does become a mosque.

    • Salome says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:03 pm

      You can be sure that they’d rather sell the Cathedral to the Muslims than to, say, a conservative Continuing Anglican body!

  79. Natalie A Sera says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:08 am

    In your big war of Christians vs. Muslims, don’t forget that other religious groups exist in this country, such as Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Native Americans, Wiccans, etc. The National Cathedral should NOT be only for Christians, because it is a national institution, and should not show preference for one religion, or else it should take the word “National” out of its name and rename itself the National Christian, or even Episcopal Cathedral, and take no money from the government.

    I see no problem in a peaceful Muslim prayer service, and this woman’s ugly interruption of the surface reflects badly on Christians, and I KNOW most Christians are not such ugly, disrespectful people. Muslims should be encouraged when they show peaceful behavior, and sent to jail when they kill and maim. MOST Muslims in the US came here to escape the violent regimes in the Middle East, while a few came here to start terrorist cells. The problem is distinguishing the two.

    I hate terrorism as much as you do, being Jewish and loving my own people, as well as American, but would rather not paint Muslims with too broad a brush.

    And by the way, who is ‘Uzair? Is there any equivalent in Christian scripture? Because Jews don’t call ANYONE the son of God, and according to Jews, the Messiah has not yet come. I don’t want the Christian readers of this column thinking something is true of Judaism when it’s not.

    • mortimer says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:21 am

      Don’t worry, Natalie. We got it already. Mohammed was tricked by a clever rabbi he had enslaved. Mohammed wrote down all the rubbish that the rabbi fed him and the result was the Koran is filled with glaring errors like ‘Uzair’, proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Mohammed was a false prophet as well as a fool. The rabbi’s deceptions are still in the Koran for all of us to read and laugh at. The enslaved rabbi has the last laugh.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 11:06 am

        Muhammad was sure tricked a lot — some prophet he was??

        He was poisoned and did not see it coming.
        He even claimed he was tricked by Satan when caught worshiping pagan gods.

        I am beginning to suspect that we cannot believe a single word that the satanic verse quoting Muhammad recited in order to satisfy his many uncontrolled lusts.

    • Mo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:38 am

      @ Natalie A Sera

      “In your big war of Christians vs. Muslims,”

      Which war is that? Oh, the one begun by Muslims, from their ideology that teaches we must all convert, submit, or die? That war?

      ” don’t forget that other religious groups exist in this country, such as Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Native Americans, Wiccans, etc.”

      So?

      Can you tell me which of these groups has texts that command subjugation and/or violence against unbelievers? Can you show me where adherents of any of these religions are committing such acts all over the world, on a regular basis, in obedience to those commands?

      “I see no problem in a peaceful Muslim prayer service, and this woman’s ugly interruption of the surface reflects badly on Christians, and I KNOW most Christians are not such ugly, disrespectful people.”

      Spare me.

      We’re talking about promoting an ideology whose stated goal is to subjugate the world under its vile, oppressive teachings and destroy those who refuse to bow. It’s got NO PLACE being promoted in this way, especially in supposedly a “Christian” place.

      “I hate terrorism as much as you do, being Jewish and loving my own people, as well as American, but would rather not paint Muslims with too broad a brush.”

      Spare me that tired old line as well. We paint ISLAM with one broad brush, because Islam is Islam.

      And if Muslims don’t like that, then they need to be doing FAR more to stand up against those bad elements in their own communities. And they are NOT.

      I’m still waiting for that apology for 9/11.

      • ManchesterLad says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 10:46 am

        Excellent post! +100

        • Mo says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 10:50 am

          @ ManchesterLad

          “Excellent post! +100”

          Thanks.

          I just wish I didn’t have to say these same things over and over and over.

    • eib says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 11:43 am

      It is inevitable that the violence and corruption of the Muslim regimes will follow Muslims and dominate their lives again here. They reject the West. They must accept this reality.

    • voegelinian says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm

      Beware the Politically Correct Multi-Culturalists who in depicting their multiculturalist mural, insist on using a fine brush to emphasize all the nuances that obscure the deep reds of murderous rapacity and beguiling greens of cunning mendacity of Muslims, whilst self-righteously wrinkling their noses at the “broad brush”.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:44 pm

      Natalie,

      Many Christians know a whole lot about the Jewish faith. After all, Jesus was a Jew and so were His apostles and many of the first groups of disciples. Jesus referred back to the Hebrew Scriptures countless times, to the Law, and explained things even non-Jews could understand. Also, the Apostle Paul, being a Jewish lawyer, explained the Jewish Laws and traditions for non-Jews to understand. So, we know that most Jews do not accept Jesus as the Messiah, although some do.

      Now, if the *National* Cathedral has to change its name so persons like you will accept that Christians have a right to say who uses their church building, then all of the churches everywhere, all of the mosques and synagogs would need to reconsider having place names on their buildings. The First Baptist Church of …say Arlington…would have to change its name so others of different faiths wouldn’t think they had a right to use the church building for just any kind of religious service any time they wanted. I have seen Jewish places of worship and some of them have place names. Does your religion allow muslims to come in and prayer to their false god?
      And that would go for muslim places too. They couldn’t decide that Christians, Jews, Hindus, etc. couldn’t go and use their mosque…although, I for one wouldn’t step foot in a building that had been used for satan worship…if those of other religions lived in the town or neighborhood where the mosque was located and had the name of that town on their building.
      So your argument that they should take *National* out of the name is just full of holes.

      And what the woman did was not *ugly* as you say it was. She didn’t want worship of the devil taking place in a building that she believed belongs to Jesus Christ as Lord. It is akin to a rapist breaking into your home, raping you and then telling you to prepare him a nice meal and a place to sleep.
      islam is ugly, from the beginning to the end and any muslims who only wish to be at peace as you claim *most* want, would not be so bold as to invade this woman’s church. Those *most*….and where are your statistics to back up your statement of *most*…would recognize that islam puts a stamp of ownership on any and all buildings where a prayer to their false god is uttered. If they wanted peace with her, they would have gone to their mosque for worship. Or better yet, stayed home.

    • IQ al Rassooli says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:44 pm

      Dear Natalie

      You are the usual good decent American whose knowledge of Islam is beneath contempt as I shall prove to you forthwith since I have spent more than 30 years studying these subjects ~

      Al Tauba 9:29 “Fight [qatiloo] those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His apostle [Muhammad] nor acknowledge the religion of truth [ISLAM] (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Christians & Jews] until they pay the Jizya [onerous Tax for not being a Muslim] with willing submission and feel themselves humiliated”

      *** Just to make sure that the listeners would believe what I am revealing, I would like to put forth a challenge worth $100,000 to the first person who can show us all a SINGLE operative verse in Muhammad’s Quran that demonstrates any Compassion & Mercy to all UNBELIEVERS!

      Currently, Unbelievers represent 80% of humanity: All Christians Buddhists Hindus Jews Atheists Agnostics etc. That is any and all those who are NOT Muslims! $100,000 for just ONE verse from among over 6200 verses in Muhammad’s Quran!***

      Al Mai’da 5: 51 “O ye who believe (Muslims)! take not the Jews [Yahood] and the Christians [Nasara] for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other.
      And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them…”

      *** The implications of the last sentence is of immense importance “And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them…” meaning that any followers of Muhammad who befriend or under the rule of Christians or Jews (or any none Muslim group) would be considered Apostates to Islam, outsiders to Islam, enemies of Islam who must be slaughtered.

      In a nutshell, no Muslim can ever be loyal to the American Constitution because it is NOT from Allah nor can any of them be loyal citizens because none Muslim Americans are Infidels/ Kuffar/ Unbelievers/ Kafiroon ***

      Regarding the Uzair

      Al Tauba 9: 30″The Jews call Uzair a son of Allah and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the truth!”

      Let me first explain who Ezra was

      Uzair, or Ezra, or Esdras, the scribe, priest, and reformer, was sent by the Persian King Cyrus the Great, after the Captivity to Jerusalem, and about whom there are many Jewish legends. Traditionally, the Uzair is buried in Basrah, Iraq (my country of origin)

      What we know about Ezra is found in Ezra chapters 7 to 10, and Nehemiah chapters 8 to 10, where he led the second group of exiles that returned from Babylon to Jerusalem.

      The above accusation is one more of the upstart Muhammad’s most egregious, indecent & unsubstantiated mendacities among the hundreds of others in his Quran. It is a very stupid allegation against the most ardently Monotheistic people ever. Jews could never under any circumstances associate any other being with God.

      I always back up my statements to the HILT with chapter & verse

      After these anti JEW & Christian Quranic verses, I hope you will spend 2 hours reading chapters 2 to 9 of the Quran (free reading on Google) and then reassessing your lack of understanding of Muhammadan Islam

      IQ al Rassooli
      Kafir & Proud!

      • deja vu says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm

        Thank you IQ al Rassooli. Your posts are always both informative and constructive.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:10 pm

      Natalie A Sera either understands nothing about Muslim supremacy, or else she hopes that we do not.

      Doesn’t she realize that supremacist Muslims present the same threat to Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Wiccans, and every other none Muslim that they do to Christians?

      This is not our “big war of Christians vs. Muslims”—Mohammedans are oppressing and slaughtering Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Yazidis, Animists, Agnostics, Atheists—any non-Muslims—all over the world.

    • Tradewinds says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:50 pm

      The other groups you mention don’t mass-murder people, Natalie. Only Muslims do, in accordance with the edicts of the Koran to “Kill the infidels.” It’s called Jihad.

      And btw, it’s Islam v Everyone Else, got it? Man you are ignorant. Take your PC BS and shove it.

      • Tradewinds says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 4:57 pm

        In addition, the woman’s interruption declaring “Jesus is Lord” in a Christian House of Worship was not “ugly.” In fact it’s mass-murdering Islam that’s ugly, and a plague on the world. This woman is a heroine and should be praised and admired for her courage and faith. Brava!

    • chanah says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 6:25 pm

      Shalom Natalie
      Of course you don’t see any problem for muslims to pray in a Church maybe you don’t have any problem with muslims burning and blowing up churches in the M.E, so with what brush should we paint muslims? You are aware of what’s going on in the M.E? And you of course are aware of that many Young muslims have gone to Iraq to join isis from the USA and elsewhere, and according to islam Jews are sons of pigs and apes and should be killed, you do know that a rabbi have been stabbed in Antwerp today, (be a muslim) and there’s no such thing as a multi religious Cathedral period

    • Anonymous Coward says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 2:16 am

      Uzair is Arabic for Ezra.

      You are correct. The Jews never called anybody the son of God — let alone Ezra.

      So this is yet another historical inaccuracy in the Koran. It is proof that the Koran is obviously not the word of God. God knows better. God does not state obvious historical inaccuracies. It is an obvious proof that Allah is not God, and the Koran is not the word of God.

      The obvious conclusion is that Mohammed is a false prophet.

  80. Jim Miles says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:12 am

    I love jihadwatch.org. But as an atheist, it’s hard to stomach all the pro-xian propaganda on here. Do any of you know of an atheist sister site to jihadwatch? I am interested in the news reporting, but very not interested in the Christian indoctrination bundled with it on this site. Thanks!
    Jim

    • ManchesterLad says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:59 am

      Jim, I don’t think there is anywhere else. I am an atheist too, but just gloss over much of the Christian odes I read here, just don’t let it bother you.

      Just live and let live I say – at least the Christians are not a threat to our western way of life and culture; not to say our lives.

      I try to keep my head firmly on my shoulders as far as getting on with people of faith is concerned – a little effort is needed on both our parts. My desire for keeping my head firmly on my shoulders is a very practical reason I am opposed to Islam.

      • James Robert Miles says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 10:53 pm

        Thanks for your kind advice, ManchesterLad. You managed to be civil, unlike the Christians who replied to me. But that makes sense, I guess.
        Cheers to all,
        Jim

        • Mo says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 11:10 pm

          @ James Robert Miles

          “Thanks for your kind advice, ManchesterLad. You managed to be civil, unlike the Christians who replied to me. But that makes sense, I guess.”

          I was perfectly civil to you.

          Notice how you not only ignored my requests for the evidence for accusations, but you manage to get in another dig here.

          If you can’t manage to restrain your very obvious disdain for Christians and Christianity, perhaps you should make your own site?

    • Mo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 11:02 am

      @ Jim Miles

      “I love jihadwatch.org. But as an atheist, it’s hard to stomach all the pro-xian propaganda on here.”

      What propaganda? This is a story about Islam being promoted in what was I assume at some point a Christian cathedral. It’s a story of what happens if anyone dares to speak out and stand up against Islam these days. How is this “propaganda”? You loathe Christianity so much that you can’t even bother to type it out.

      “I am interested in the news reporting, but very not interested in the Christian indoctrination bundled with it on this site.”

      There is no “indoctrination” going on here. If you hate Christianity so much, make your own site.

      It’s amazing how Christians are generally always willing to stand with atheists or anyone else on this issue and others. But that sure does not go the other way around. Anti-theists like you can’t seem to stand ANY mention of Christianity whatsoever.

      It’s very tiresome. We’re supposed to be on the same side here. Would that you could put aside your anti-Christian bigotry for a while, at least on this issue.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 12:39 pm

        If this article were about Muslims imposing themselves on atheists we could the assume then that Jim Miles would be whining about why are so many atheists disgussing atheism.

        Jim Miles needs to get off his appeasement prayer mat and go change his dirty diapers.

    • ManchesterLad says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 11:38 am

      It would be better if you could tell us what you really think Jay, please don’t hold back 🙂

      Not all atheists are libtards hostile to all religion and people who choose faith. I agree, many are.

      • Champ says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 4:07 pm

        Spot on, Jay!! …you’ve made some excellent points–hear, hear!

      • Champ says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 4:08 pm

        …my comment is for JayShawn, not Jay Boo …luv u Jay Boo!

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 12:39 pm

      Jim, atheists are free to comment here also. I enjoy reading different points of view and joining in the discussion at times. I can’t speak for others but if I post something you find hard to stomach, please let me know why ….. in a civil manner, of course. I would not mind knowing your point of view on things. Neither would I mind being prodded into thinking more deeply about my point of view. My brain can always use the exercise.

    • duh_swami says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:15 pm

      Man, you shore is smart and mostly wrong…all that hate you have built up must hurt. Try some aluminum hydroxide gel for a little relief.

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:22 pm

      Jim Miles, you state:

      ‘I am interested in the news reporting, but very not interested in the Christian indoctrination bundled with it on this site.’

      One of the reasons why Islam is in ascendancy is because of unwitting supporters like you who have the temerity to vent your spleen on Christians who are suffering terrible persecution so that atheists like you can be free to vent your spleen. You will never have the atheist ‘utopia’ you crave. The spiritual vacuum left by the denial of Christ will be filled by Mohammed.

      When they come for you, please remember that your hatred for Christ encouraged them. They hate Christ too, but they hate the godless even more.

      • ManchesterLad says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 2:36 pm

        DV, Please don’t tar all atheists with the same brush. I agree many of them are ignorant and totally absorbed into the liberal mindset that they are superior to religious folks.

        However, there are a lot of us (such as me:) who understand and respect our Christian heritage, we (in UK) are a Christian country and our culture has developed and thrived for a large part due to its Christian roots.

        I would stand with my Christian friends to fight against its demise, just as if I were a believer. This is because it is my culture under attack, which I obviously share completely with people who believe just as much as with those that do not.

        I have no truck with them, even if I do not believe in God. To be frank, a secular culture where each can choose what and whether to believe suits me fine.

        What I cannot accept is an alien culture which seeks to destroy ours, or – worse still – foolish people supposedly from our culture who will hasten its demise.

        So I suspect I am just as disgusted at this story as you, not because I believe in God, but because I recognise that this capitulation by the church to an evil culture is only bringing our cultural end – or major wars – that much closer.

        I believe in the overall goodness of our culture – even though I am fiercely critical of our many cultural failings and horrors.

        I am proud to be part of a Christian culture and will defend it just as if I were a Christian.

        • Mo says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 2:52 pm

          @ ManchesterLad

          “However, there are a lot of us (such as me:) who understand and respect our Christian heritage, we (in UK) are a Christian country and our culture has developed and thrived for a large part due to its Christian roots.
          I would stand with my Christian friends to fight against its demise, just as if I were a believer. This is because it is my culture under attack, which I obviously share completely with people who believe just as much as with those that do not.”

          And I would stand with you as well.

          When it comes to the supremacist, totalitarian ideology of Islam, we’re all in the same boat here!

    • voegelinian says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 2:38 pm

      Yeah, Little Green Footballs was a flaming Atheist Leftist site against the Jihad — until it couldn’t stand the cognitive dissonance anymore and became what it always was at heart: a flaming Atheist Leftist site which, culturally and psychologically, means it cannot really be anti-Islam, without doing some profound readjustments of its worldview. (Now watch the atheists lecture me on how atheism is “not a worldview” — one of the many telltale signs of their worldview which explains why so many of them defend Muslims.)

      • Mo says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 2:57 pm

        @ voegelinian

        “Yeah, Little Green Footballs was a flaming Atheist Leftist site against the Jihad — until it couldn’t stand the cognitive dissonance anymore and became what it always was at heart: a flaming Atheist Leftist site”

        Oh, goodness, LGF! What a blast from the past. Are they even still around?

        I remember being a regular visitor there. Then seemingly out of the blue they started being very vocally anti-Christian. Not just atheist, but outright hostile to anyone who didn’t think as the do on every single point.

        I think that was the first time I was ever banned from a website! I wish I could remember what I said, but I’m sure it was quite mild. (I’m much more bold these days than I was then.)

        I remember being so shocked, that I thought it was an error. It was not.

        “(Now watch the atheists lecture me on how atheism is “not a worldview” — one of the many telltale signs of their worldview which explains why so many of them defend Muslims.)”

        Yes, that is a common occurrence. But let’s not get off track on that.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:43 pm

      Jim, lots of Atheists and Agnostics post here, and Robert Spencer covers Muslim savagery against those of all faiths, and none.

      He covered this story, about an Atheist being assaulted by a violent Muslim at an Atheist parade:

      “Pennsylvania: Muslim attacks atheist for insulting Muhammad”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/pennsylvania-muslim-attacks-atheist-for-insulting-muhammad

      This is not a Christian site.

      You might want to check out the Atlas Shrugs site—Pamela Geller is an Atheist. But she does cover stories like this one, because it is—or should be—of concern to every Anti-Jihadist, Christian or not.

      • Tradewinds says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 5:03 pm

        I don’t think so, graven. Pamela Geller is Jewish.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 15, 2014 at 6:38 pm

          Tradewinds, Pamela Geller is ethnically Jewish, but she is not a religiously practicing Jew.

    • Mirren10 says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:45 pm

      ”I love jihadwatch.org. But as an atheist, it’s hard to stomach all the pro-xian propaganda on here.”

      If you read Jihad Watch regularly, you would know that regular posters here come from all faiths, or none.

      ” … all the pro-xian propaganda on here.”

      Again, if you read JW regularly, you would know there are perhaps five or six regular posters who identify as Christians. Naturally they defend their faith, why would you expect them to do otherwise ?

      We also frequently have mohammedans, and mohammedan apologists posting here; does their pro-muslim propaganda not offend you, also ? Or is it just *Christian* apologetics that offends you ? Do ‘rezali mehil’, and ‘Christy’ not offend your anti-Christian sensibilities ?

      ” I am interested in the news reporting, but very not interested in the Christian indoctrination bundled with it on this site.”

      What ‘indoctrination’ ? I suggest you look up the word ”indoctrinate” in the dictionary. It means to inculcate the tenets of a religious faith, or political ideology, with the intent to stifle and eradicate any other opinion.

      No Christian poster on this site does that. Plenty of the mohammedans/apologists, do however. But clearly *that* doesn’t upset you.

      ”Do any of you know of an atheist sister site to jihadwatch?”

      Tell you what, why don’t *you* create ”an atheist sister site” ? Then you can ban any Christian who dares to post any reference to Christianity, and its tenets. You could also ban any mohammedans who refer to islam, or Hindus, or Sikhs, or Buddhists, but somehow I feel sure you won’t do that …

      I’m an agnostic, myself, but strangely enough, I don’t find any reference to another poster’s religion offensive, how odd that you do. Or perhaps, not so odd.

      b

      • Champ says

        Nov 15, 2014 at 5:17 pm

        Tell you what, why don’t *you* create ”an atheist sister site” ? Then you can ban any Christian who dares to post any reference to Christianity, and its tenets. You could also ban any mohammedans who refer to islam, or Hindus, or Sikhs, or Buddhists, but somehow I feel sure you won’t do that …

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Mirren10, that’s a brilliant idea! …and quite funny, too! 😀

  81. ruth says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Yes everybody is free to believe.

    But without Yeshua HaMaschiach you will go to hell.

    sorry.

  82. Clint says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:30 am

    First, it isn’t even a church let alone a cathedral. It is Episcopalian not Catholic do at best is merely a place for an ecclesiastical community to gather. This is the same institution that has forsaken every other commandment from Christ. This does not surprise me.

    • Mo says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:56 am

      @ Clint

      “First, it isn’t even a church let alone a cathedral. It is Episcopalian not Catholic do at best is merely a place for an ecclesiastical community to gather.”

      Then they should remove all vestiges of anything remotely “Christian” and simply call it a community center.

  83. mortimer says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:33 am

    Natalie, I’m going to ask you a question. Would you permit the following prayer to be recited in your family synagogue?

    “Guide us in the straight path,
    the path of those whom Thou hast blessed,
    not of those against whom Thou art wrathful,
    nor of those who are astray”

    (explanation of the prayer by Muslim theologian: “These two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. … the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why ‘anger’ descended upon the Jews, while being described as ‘led astray’ is more appropriate of the Christians. … We should also mention that both the Christians and the Jews have earned the anger and are led astray, but the anger is one of the attributes more particular of the Jews. Allah said about the Jews, ‘Those (Jews) who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath’ (Sura 5:60).”)

    The above prayer is the most common prayer recited by Muslims. Knowing what it means, is it appropriate to say in a synagogue that Jews are in error and that God hates them? See my point?

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 7:15 pm

      @JayShawn

      Islam is the largest PRACTICING religion in the world.
      ————————————————————————
      If that’s true that would be because they have no choice. They are *born* Muslim and the penalty for deciding to leave Islam is banishment or death.

      It would be interesting to see how many remained Muslim if they could only be free to choose. But of course, freedom is not a concept taught by Islam. Neither is joy or forgiveness, a relationship with God, answered prayer, a guarantee of salvation for all those who believe, or love for all mankind.

      Compulsory obedience to any god or prophet is an insult to the God-given dignity of mankind who is made in His image. Islam is a counterfeit ideology, making threats and lashing out because the entity behind it knows that his days are numbered.

  84. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 11:29 am

    This woman was in the right. Furthermore, the whole idea of Christians and Muslims have “interfaith fellowship meetings” is a hoax. Not real Christian would take part in such a farce. For the Bible teaches that Christians are to “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.” Ephesians 5:20. [K.J.V] The word “reprove” means “expose” as in “expose them.” The doctrinal errors they hold should be expose as in error by Christian in the light of the Bible, Isaiah 8:20. To give only two examples of the many ways that the teachings of Islam is in strong contradiction to the teachings of the Bible are as follows. First, Islam denies that Jesus is the Son of God. That is He is the Son of God, being the Son of God the Father. For in great contrast to Islam the Bible teaches that Jesus is, indeed, the Son of God. To site just a few of many examples of this from the Bible are Matthew 3:16,17. 16:16. John 3:16,17,36. First John 2:22,23. 5:20. Second, Islam denies that Jesus is God the Son. That Jesus is, clearly, God the Son may be seen in Hebrews 1:6-8. With emphasis on verse 8. In Short, the very idea of real Christians having with Muslims “interfaith fellowship meetings” is nothing but a farce and a hoax.

  85. Blitz2b says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 11:33 am

    Muslims believe that once a building is used as a mosque it will remain a mosque forever.

    The Arab fable now comes to mind where a Bedouin feels sorry for his camel who is left out in the cold at night, allows him to put his head in the tent… Eventually before the night is through, the Bedouin is gradually evicted by the camel who takes his place in the tent, while the poor Bedouin sleeps out in the cold.

    The hospitality of Christian churches to accommodate Islam, will have a dear price to be paid, when the Muslims start to demand that Christians stop using the same facilities as it hurts their sensitivities.

    These must truly be the last days Christ spoke of, where even the elect are deceived…

    Brave woman indeed.

  86. Martin Vink says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 11:52 am

    Christians have abandoned their faith. Christians need to show love to God above all else. Christians need to love their neighbor as themselves. It is a matter of identifying God and our neighbor.

    America has turned its back on the notion that we are One Nation Under God by electing a Muslim sympathising President and by identifying Muslims as their neighbors.

    So many millions of Christians have died for God and Freedom. Those who sacrificed their lives had no problem identifying God and their neighbor.

    Christians would do well to remember how Billy Graham united them for a brief moment at Sports Stadiums.

  87. Jeff says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 11:56 am

    Such a shame.

  88. ViannaR says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    A woman proclaiming Jesus Christ is lord in a church? That is exactly what the church is for. Sounds like she is the only one who did the right thing that day. Interfaith relations is one thing. Worshipping anything other than Jesus in a Christian church is not at all appropriate.

    • Champ says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:12 pm

      Hear, hear!!!

  89. duh_swami says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 2:27 pm

    Allah put a curse on Christians till the last day because they forgot part of the message Q 5:14. Mahoundians in outreach dialogue will remind them what it was. There is only room for one religious supremacist bigot at the top, and it’s not a Christian.

  90. gts58 says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    Christians who accept Islam as just another religion might as well “feed themselves to the lions” as Muslims will never accept Christianity. Muslim leaders want to “appear all nice” right now but like a crippling disease, they just want to make entry into – then they kill the whole body.

  91. Myxlplik says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm

    I watched the video and noticed, during the abomination that there were only men visible at the front. So, is it now the position of the government that women are second class citizens when in our National Cathederal?

    Seems to me enforcing such a thing is a clear violation of civil liberties.

    • Myxlplik says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 3:08 pm

      So when do we get to see the first transgender Imam lead a service at the National Cathederal?

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      Yes, I noticed that all the men were in front and all the women were in back. Also, I don’t recall any children being in the video. Aren’t children allowed to pray with the adults? Or did I just miss seeing them?

      I don’t really have a problem with Muslims praying at a service conducted inside a Christian church or cathedral but I think the leaders of all the prayers should be Christian. Also, the words of Christ from the Gospels shoud be the focus of attention …….. instead of just a mention of the name “Jesus” among a list of prophets or a passing reference to what Jesus said according to the Quran. By the way, are there any quotes in the Quran directly attributable to Jesus? If so, I missed them along with any children at the service. In addition, if it was truly an interfaith service between Muslims AND Christians why was there no partaking of communion by the Christians? Don’t Episcopalians take communion?

      I did find out that Muslims consider Adam (and not God) to be their father. This may be true on a purely physical level but not on the spiritual level. When Jesus speaks about the Father I believe he is speaking strictly in spiritual terms. It seems to me Muslims tend to see things mostly in terms of the physical with very little interest in the spirit or the soul. Their idea of heaven comes across as a mere extension of this physical world. There’s nothing very spiritual about it …… or Islam. Isn’t the spirit of man what religion should be about? Well, those are just some of my thoughts.

  92. Margaritha says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 3:55 pm

    If Jesus were to be present in that cursed church, he would have taken a whip and lashed at the evil congregation including the so called reverends ,who arranged for such meetings. That courageous woman, who stood up among the cursed lot of wolves to proclaim the Lordship of Jesus is thrice blessed. This type of nonsense ,we can see only in the western countries. The impoverished Asian, African Christians are so strong in their faith, they will never put down their Lord and saviour Jesus like this..

  93. Brian Hoff says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 4:06 pm

    The woman is wrong first Islamist prayer on firday is allow in that part of the church so she actly illegality by her outbust and diruption of than religious service. If the mosque I goto allow than church to have they prayer service I as than security will throw than muslim who does the same thing out also.

    • Tradewinds says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:10 pm

      Just can it with your illiterate balderdash, Muslim – formerly known as “defenderofislam” on this site. After all these years still misusing “than” – go to school why don’t you.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 5:40 pm

      “she actly illegality by her outbust and diruption”

      You not only don’t know how to write English…what is *actly*…*outbust* and*diruption*?… you don’t know the law.
      As suggested to you numerous times, go to school and learn something. And leave the legal…or *illegality*…of the issues of life to those who know the law.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 9:07 pm

      “Brian Hoff”—really, “DefenderofIslam”—wrote:

      The woman is wrong first Islamist prayer on firday is allow in that part of the church so she actly illegality by her outbust and diruption of than religious service.
      ………………………………..

      Note that the appalling “Brian Hoff” believes that it is *illegal* to disrupt an Islamic service in the US—we are not that far gone yet.

      More:

      If the mosque I goto allow than church to have they prayer service I as than security will throw than muslim who does the same thing out also.
      ………………………………..

      What absolute crap. No Mosque would *ever* allow a “filthy Kuffar” to hold a prayer service in a Mosque.

      The only time Infidels are allowed in a Mosque is either for Da’wa sessions or when Muslims are beating them to death:

      “Militant Wahabbi Islamists Drag Christian Evangelist into Mosque and Beat Him to Death”

      http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/christian033007.htm

      • Davegreybeard says

        Nov 16, 2014 at 1:08 am

        Excellent link and comment, graven.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 16, 2014 at 10:15 pm

          Thanks, Dave. I am sick of Muslim bullsh*t—but even more sick of Muslim savagery.

  94. Margaritha says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 4:32 pm

    How nice. What an insulting smack in the face to Christians, and Anglicans, in parts of the world who are dying and being persecuted by Islam.

    They Want What-Now?

    That’s only if you stick to the surface, and stupidly or arrogantly assume that all people think alike, and that what Islam has been doing to the world for 1400 years, at the cost of 270 000 000 Christian deaths is all about caring and sharing. Remember: they actually believe that world is theirs, and if we will not surrender & convert, then we will be plundered, either beheaded or enslaved (2014: like the Yazidis & Christian Iraqis and Syrians), or made pay the special punishment tax and various humiliations as 4th class citizens, (2014: like the Egyptian Copts). Ask yourself: how many church buildings are there in Saudi Arabia? Zero; and when CAIR will arrange for a Christian prayer in a grand mosque in Washington?-Don’t ever dream of it.

  95. Twostellas says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:16 pm

    Brave and courageous lady. I love her.

  96. Boston Tea Party says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 5:24 pm

    They’ve elevated Multiculturalism over Jesus, and in the end they will have neither.

  97. gravenimage says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 6:44 pm

    Harry, this is nothing new—the first time this travesty was allowed to occur was in 1992.

    But it has become increasingly common and more overt in its tone since 9/11.

  98. Helen says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    Political correctness gone insane, to the point they were covering Christian icons to not offend Muslims. How’s that for tolerance? Not only invade a Christian church, but cover up it’s anything that represents Christianity.

    Go to a mosque anywhere in the world and ask to give a Christian prayer inside and see what happens.

    Political correctness is destroying the traditional values that built this country. Insane, truly insane. Cultural suicide – it’s happening.
    False tolerance is Draining the faith, morales and legacies of the founding fathers of America’s constitution and democracy. Just yesterday, Montgomery Schools made a unilateral decision to remove ALL religious tags holidays IN RESPONSE TO ISLAMIC PROTESTS FOR ADDITION of MORE HOLIDAYS to the 2014 school calendar. We keep our foot in our mouth fighting a foolish war against ISL but ignorantly establishing it’s course for an ISLAMIC nation here in the US. Who would have fathomed America would someday open up it’s national cathedral altars to a sermon for Islamic Jihad. Lord, please don’t let the faith of our fathers be in vain.

    • Jayell says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 10:11 am

      Covering up Christian icons in a Cathedral for whatever reason is TOTALLY out of order. They are what any normal sane person would expect to see in a dedicated Christian environment. If the muslims attending as guests in a Christian building here were in any way ‘offended’ by CHRISTIAN icons in a CHRISTIAN establishment then we have to ask serious questions about their IQ or/and general state of their mental equipment. And seriously question whether or not these are suitable persons to be included in a modern civilised western society (or indeed any other social situation for those not requiring psychiatric intervention).

      • ManchesterLad says

        Nov 16, 2014 at 12:13 pm

        I agree with this, but even more serious questions have to be asked about the people who either agreed to cover them up, or decided to cover them up for themselves.

        I’m not sure which of these is worse. Why could they not answer “No, I’m sorry this is a Christian place of worship.”

        I despair

        • Kquane says

          Nov 16, 2014 at 5:06 pm

          Gina Jihad Campbell is a DISGRACE!

      • Jayell says

        Nov 16, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        Oh, by the way, who in the UK has heard that the C of E General Synod (their ‘Parliament’) has invited a muslim imam (or whatever) with some dubious credentials (and how many muslim imama have NOT got dubious credentials?) to address them? Seems like they’re all on the slippery slope. Mind you, there are some who think that the C of E was founded on a slippery slope in the first case.

    • John Stefan Obeda says

      Nov 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm

      They who organized this service and also they who think so highly of it, that it is something good, sinned and are sinning against the first commandment and also against Psalm 16. King David confesses that the true God Who created all things and Who is the One true God and the only God is the One that has blessed him with all goodness. “YOU are my Lord; apart from YOU I have no good thing.” “The sorrows of those will increase who run after other gods.” David says. And we see the great sorrows of the Islamists and we also see the great sorrows that they cause others to have. We see how they persecute God’s children. David says, “I will not pour out their libations of blood or take up their names on my lips.” You see David’s faithful in worshipping the true God of Israel, Jahweh. He dares not to worship a false god and neither does he dare to even mention the name of a false god. Now, do you see the great difference in the faith and faithfulness between David and those who planned this sinful meeting with the pagan Islamists? They worshipped with them. Oh, how it must anger the true God, Jahweh, the One that promised and sent mankind the One and only Saviour from their sins. Shame, shame, shame on these traitors who dared to mix righteousness with wickedness and to mix light with darkness and to mix Christ with Belial and to mix the temple of God with idols. (2 Cor. 6) Allah is an idol, a false god, a nothing. Christians! Be faithful in your calling or you too with an unrepentant heart will go to hell for your unfaithfulness and bad example to the una sancta.

    • noellsq says

      Nov 21, 2014 at 12:44 pm

      The whole world of the west is insane. They think by being nice and using western values are going to change the radicals of Islam . They will piss on you before they cut off your head. They only know one thing and that is hate

  99. Grapes of Wrath says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:26 pm

    I thought it worthwhile to share the testimony of the brave islamic multi-culti disruptor…

    “Worship Only Jesus Christ” The Testimony of the Woman Who Proclaimed Christ at the Washington National Cathedral

    My Friends:
    I start this saga with Psalm 27. “Jehovah is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?”

    This has been my motto many times throughout these past couple of years. It became my substance once again this past week. Here is the chain of events that led me to do something most women would never think of trying…

    Tuesday, November 11, I read on the Drudge report an article referring to the Islamic worship service at the Washington National Cathedral located in Washington, DC.

    My blood begins to boil as I read the comments of how this is to be such a wonderful event and how religious tolerance can, for the first time, be shown in our nation’s capitol.

    I have felt my blood boil before, I call it righteous anger. I also know when God places something on my heart – I am to pay attention. I call a few close friends and let them know I will need to make a decision within the next day or so if I am to make the 400 mile trip from Kingsport, TN to the Capitol.

    After much prayer and encouragement – and yes, some nervous doubts, I make the decision to leave early Thursday morning. This is when the first miracle happened…

    As I am driving on a stretch of the highway, I come upon a car pulled off alongside of the shoulder. As I pass, a woman steps out of her vehicle. She points in my direction, gives a two thumbs up and claps her hands. I am puzzled. Why would a woman do that? Then it hits me! Was that my affirmation of my decision. It pushes me onward towards my mission. I wonder if that woman will ever know what she did for me that day! I hope she reads this article.

    But I still have doubts, will I get arrested? Am I willing to take the condemnation from others, will I fail? Will I even get the opportunity to make the impact that I intend? Psalm 27 refreshes my mind.

    I arrive in DC that evening and find a parking garage a block from the cathedral. I slept in my SUV that night and was surprised how well I did sleep despite the running of my mind.

    At 10:00 Friday morning I walk to the cathedral. I knew from reading about the event that it was closed to the public and only those by private invitation would be admitted. It would be a challenge with the first hurdle in getting in.

    I had my few prayer warriors working on their end. One of them mentioned that she would pray that I become invisible to the security guards. Now God placed on my mind a few things. I know these came from Him because I don’t think I would have thought of them. I took my ID with me, but it concerned me because it was a Michigan driver’s license. It may raise a red flag to an observant security guard. I chose to wear my best Sunday clothes, with my best coat. I had to look like I was attending an important church service. I included a scarf just in case I needed to cover my head. You never know if Muslim protocol was required upon admission.

    I find a security guard outside the building and I ask which door was the best to get into the cathedral. I noticed the main front doors were locked and had notices posted that the cathedral was closed to the public until 2:00PM. He directs me to the other side where a smaller entrance was being used. Here comes the biggest challenge… how do I get in? There was a touch pad security device and the door was locked. Just as I approach (to knock), a security guard steps in front of me, punches the numbers, and opens the door for me! I am in! As he turns towards me I tell him that I am to serve refreshments. Now… that was not a lie! I could twist this two ways.

    First, I was the “refreshment” (lol), and I also planned to assist with refreshments, assuming there would be some. Using this excuse, I would at least be able to get in and then leave quietly after working with the ladies.

    This guard then takes me to the first check point. He says I am with the refreshments and I get through – no questions, no checking my ID! This second guard takes me to the main floor foyer and directs me to a woman standing with a clipboard. He tells her that I with the food and she asks if I need “Lorna”. I say “Yes” (I do need Lorna) and she tells me Lorna hasn’t arrived yet. So I say I will use the restroom and be back.

    I found the restrooms in the basement and waited in a stall for an hour and a half. I am now getting really nervous. The butterflies are starting to hit – bad. I texted my other warriors and told them I was in and to pray hard!

    I had two more hurdles to go. A large group of security guards were posted at the entrance of the sanctuary. I had to get past them, somehow. And I needed to get to the front where the ceremony was.
    At 11:45, I exit the bathroom stall. I knew the service would begin about noon or maybe 12:30. But I wasn’t certain. I prayed. In fact, I prayed the entire time I was in the bathroom. Psalm 27 again.

    A woman was washing her hands at the sink as I left the stall. She had a Press tag on her blouse so I knew she was with the media. She also had no headscarf or hijab so I decided not to put my scarf over my head. I asked her if she knew what time the service was to start and she replied, “In a few minutes. Do you know where to go?” I didn’t. Here is the next miracle… she then says, “Follow me and I will take you to the front.” WOW! Oh God! Really??

    I walked with her into the main foyer up to the security line. We walked right past the guards and into the sanctuary! I was INVISIBLE!
    The walk through the sanctuary was incredible. The cathedral is beautiful. It reminded me of the great cathedrals in Europe when I visited there. We walked maybe for 5 minutes, up to the front of the cathedral, where she showed me where to sit. I found an open seat right in the front row – another God-Thing.

    I was shocked at what I saw. About a hundred people were sitting in chairs around rugs that were placed on the floor. Muslim women, separated from the men, were seated on the rugs. To my right was the news media with the cameras and recording equipment. In front of me were the prayer rugs, I could have stretched my legs and touched one.

    Then it hit me… I had such an angst come over me. Seeing these Muslims sitting on their rugs ready to bow to a god, causing such an abomination in the house of the Lord! Then my heart started pounding – like I have never felt it pounding before! I texted my friends again. Please pray!

    The Bishop began speaking and thanked everyone for coming. He stated the Call of Prayer would begin momentarily and spoke some words in Arabic. I prayed… “Lord! Tell me when!” At that moment I saw a figure of Christ on the cross some distance away. I stood up. The rest is history.

    I still cannot fathom how the Lord could use me. I am such a weak, sometimes stubborn person who doesn’t always get things right. But I remember saying after I got escorted out, “Lord! Thank you for letting me do this!” I did it for God. No one else. And He allowed me to do it!
    May what I did be not about me. I can do nothing without Jesus Christ. In my weakness, my fear, my doubts, and certainly my failures – He shows His strength! I just needed to trust Him. Psalm 27 all over again.

    May I encourage you? We are in God’s army, Soldiers of the Cross! We should act like it. There is a battle out there! WARRIOR UP PEOPLE! ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS!

    In Christ,
    Christine Weick
    USED WITH THE EXPRESS PERMISSION AND CONSENT OF THE AUTHOR
    ~JG

    https://www.facebook.com/BreitbartOneSilencedMillionsAwakened/photos/a.198312883608836.34844.198021666971291/608608599245927/?type=1&theater

    • deja vu says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:07 pm

      What an incredible testimony to anyone who is prepared to risk all for the sake of proclaiming Christ! Let those of us who believe humble ourselves when the Holy Spirit of God calls us to be the hands, feet and voice of Christ, shining His Light into the darkness. For He has promised to be with us always, even to the end of the age.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 15, 2014 at 10:22 pm

      Thank you for sharing this. It is good to have the background. I too have Psalm 27 as a favorite and have read it when feeling weak and afraid.

    • voegelinian says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 2:57 am

      Wow, thanks Christine for taking the time to post, and for your act of conscience and bravery.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 10:27 pm

      A brave and principled woman.

    • Shannon says

      Nov 17, 2014 at 1:13 am

      Thank you for posting her story. This is amazingly similar to what happened with the Christian woman in Germany who likewise stood up and proclaimed Christ when an imam had been invited to hold a service at the Memorial Church of the Reformation in Speyer, on Nov. 10, 2013.

  100. Das Karl says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 7:30 pm

    Thanks for the Koran refs. Isaiah 49 makes it clear – someone will bring the Word of the God of Israel to the Gentiles. And, as predicted by so many, the deceiver has sent a false messenger to lead non-Jews to the real prince of darkness.
    Thank you for truth in this season if lies.

  101. Ted R. Weiland says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 8:33 pm

    The First Amendment’s First Commandment-Violating Free Exercise Clause = The Open Proliferation of Any and All gods Other than Yahweh = The Promotion of Islam and Its god Allah in America = The Ft. Hood Massacre, The Boston Bombing, Prayer to Allah in the National Cathedral, and Who Knows What Else

    For more, see online Chapter 11 “Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt11.html.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 10:36 pm

      Your idea that Muslim supremacism is *caused* by freedom of religion is ludicrous.

      By the way, Christianity does not *force* others to worship, nor does it posit a theocracy.

      If you believe that, in fact, then Islam might be the faith for you…

  102. PJG says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    Am I imagining things, or did I see a couple of Muslimas laughing at the end of this short clip?

  103. jcd0101 says

    Nov 15, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    I pray that i will take such a stand …
    I pray that i will live a life that somehow reflects my knowing
    that Jesus Christ is Lord
    Not the false moon god allah or his mass murdering false prophet mohammed..

  104. Thomas Johnston says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 12:16 am

    I just went to the Washington Cathedrals’ web sight . It contains lots of information about service times , mission , liturgy , the vast theological credentials of its staff and thankfully the car parking facilities … but as far as I could see Jesus only got one brief mention …

    So maybe the women who was evicted from the Friday Muslim prayer service for proclaiming that ‘ Jesus died on the cross for all sinners ‘ message was unknown to both the Muslim and the ‘ christians ‘ of the Cathedral .

    • deja vu says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 3:10 am

      @Thomas Johnston

      The Dean describes himself as a ‘non-theistic Christian’. In this he mirrors the Episcopalian Bishop John Shelby Spong, who did not believe in the virgin birth, the work of Jesus on the cross, the bodily resurrection of Jesus or even a ‘theistic’ view of God – but still called himself a Christian.

      In one of his ’12 points for reform of Christianity’ he reasoned that: ‘since a theistic view of God cannot be conceived, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.’

      Paraphrasing what one wit said of John Spong, ‘The Dean of Washington National Cathedral is a posterboy for what the Episcopal Church has become – merely Unitarianism in drag.’

  105. Champ says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 1:28 am

    What this brave woman stated is true …

    “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” — Romans 10:9

  106. Tim Berends says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 1:53 am

    With the Muslims now praying in our churches does this mean we can go to Mecca and pray as Christians?

  107. Concerned American says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 2:03 am

    This is worse than I thought –

    I am studying the rules for the Friday Prayer, called the Jumu’ah, and an Islam site gives strict instructions. Here is what they say “The Friday khutabah (speech) that does not contain the testimony (“There is no god except Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger) is like the defective hand.” {Reported by Imams Ahmed, Abu Dawud, and At-Tirmidhi.}” [1]

    So tell me, how does Reverend Gina Campbell’s desire to make the Washington National Cathedral “a place of prayer for all people” square with the facts just given above? The truth cannot just be ignored.

    I think about 2000 years ago, another person came upon the scene, concerning the Father’s House of Prayer and he said that the current moneylenders had made it a den of thieves.

    I wonder what He might say today?

    [1] http://islam1.org/khutub/Rules_of_Friday_Prayer_1.htm

  108. Dennis Trisker says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 3:09 am

    It is too bad that so many counter jihadists see the Muslim situation as a fight between fundamentalist Christians and Fundamentalist Muslims. This is a battle between cultures. Sometimes reading Christian comments about the superiority of Christianity against Islam I get ill. All this Christian dribble about Fundamentalism of one against the other is ridiculous. All fundamentalism be it Christian or Islamic is evil. I oppose Islam because of its barbaric actions. I also live in Asia and have seen it firsthand. I am totally opposed to it. But I also see the American Fundies as a threat to reason and the US constitution. Must we be so polarized?

  109. Jean says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Why do these Muslims need to pray in a christian church don’t they have Mosques to pray in. Pray, someone please build them a Mosque most religions have their own place of worship what does praying in a christian church have to do with bringing religions togeather.

  110. Ian Sobieski says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 11:21 am

    The Washington cathedral has been desecrated, Jesus Christ has been deeply offended. where a Muslim prays the very place where he prays belongs automatically to Islam…forever… unless a Mass of Reparation is said in that same place. In Italy Muslims have done the same thing in front of the Milan Cathedral, and the Catholic Bishop did make a Mass of Reparation to reclaim the place to Jesus Christ. If the Bishop of this Cathedral does not believe in the virgin birth, the work of Jesus on the cross, the bodily resurrection of Jesus or even a ‘theistic’ view of God , HE IS NOT A VALID BISHOP, HE IS NOT EVEN A CATHOLIC NOR A CHRISTIAN, HE IS A FRAUD, AN USEFUL IDIOT like Lenin said and HE IS A TRAITOR . The Muslims know that very well, they knew they were reclaiming the cathedral to the Muslim Faith. “USA You have a problem”. May Jesus Christ and Notre Dame of Fatima have mercy on America.

  111. Margaritha says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 12:00 pm

    Christine Weick- You are a blessed woman and you deserve a statue to be installed in that Washington National Cathedral to represent a true ,bold, crusader for Christ. The Good Book says:”Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven”. It is a shame the Church members sitting passively when the pagans shout “there is no god but Allah and Mohamed is his prophet”. This Cathedral boasts of 14,000 members. Not even one had the balls to stand up for Christ in his own church. The organizer of this event- Rev.Canon Gina Campell is tobe condemned by all as evil. . She should be defrocked. At the time when we are hearing every day about the beheadings of our Americans by these Cruel cult, what made this woman priest to entertain them?

    • Kepha says

      Nov 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm

      Speaking as a hardcore Christian of the Reformed persuasion, I would not give Christine Weick a statue in a church. However, giving her one on the lawn or in a public park might be a good idea. Better yet, someone with good organization and management skills should set up a fund for her, sine I gather she’s been living out of her car.

      Don’t hold your breath expecting TEC to defrock Gina Campbell. Her proving how liberal and ecumenical her church is is just the sort of thing that TEC rewards. National Cathedral also blesses same-sex “marriages” and all the other rigamarole of liberal post-Christianity. At this stage of the game, the only use Uncle Kepha has for National Cathedral is as a place for an East Coast American to go to see how Gothic architecture works; or, perhaps, pay respect to the grave of Woodrow Wilson.

  112. The MAD Jewess says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 12:03 pm

    Good for this woman.

  113. AnneM says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 12:57 pm

    …..And to think a number of years ago, while touring Washington D.C., as part of the tour, I had entered this place of worship. Never again will I do any such thing.

  114. AnneM says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    God Bless this Christian woman of faith, she is a profile of courage!

  115. StreekyD says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 2:07 pm

    Muslims are NOTHING BUT BULLIES!

  116. Dot says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 3:44 pm

    liberal Christians,in my opinion they are not Christians!!!

  117. Bettina says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Wonder when that Don Kellar will get tired of the gooey eggs he keeps cracking on his face… Read this, Kellar, and ask yourself that question.

  118. dumbledoresarmy says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Something that the foolish dhimmis at the National Cathedral should be reminded of: that at the Hagia Sophia, which was once the most beautiful church in all of Christendom, the great church of the Holy Wisdom in what was Constantinople, until the Muslims invaded and occupied it in 1453, Christians are not allowed to publicly pray.

    The lovely Hagia Sophia was seized, desecrated (with hundreds or perhaps thousands of those inside it at the time the Muslims took the city, murdered and raped), and turned into a mosque; then Ataturk’s Turkey made it a museum – so that if Muslims couldn’t “pray” neither could Christians; and there are many Muslims in Turkey who demand that it be made into a mosque again. Muslims anywhere are *infuriated* at the very idea that the Hagia Sophia – which was built by Christians, and was a place of Christian worship for **one thousand years** – should *ever* be given back to Christians to be used as a church once more; Muslims would probably attack any Christian tourist who, visiting the Hagia Sophia “museum”, were to begin to sing the Phos hilaron or any other Christian hymn or prayer.

    And the same foolish dhimmis at the National Cathedral should be reminded that, at the Temple Mount, the Jews’ holiest place, where stood the first and second temples, *Muslims* “pray” and utter curses and hate-filled sermons inciting to genocide against Jews; and although Jews and Christians are – grudgingly – permitted to visit the Mount (at certain restricted times), they are often attacked and cursed by Muslims, and woe betide them if they even *look* as though they are praying. (And the tragedy is that dhimmified Jews in Israel have been allowing the malignant-narcissist Muslims to get away with this; frankly, it’s time it was STOPPED).

    Think about it. *The* greatest church in all of ancient Christendom is squatted on by Muslims, who will NEVER give it back to Christians nor even permit so much as a whisper of a public Christian prayer in it; and the Jews’ most holy place is *also* squatted on by Muslims, who *attack* anyone else – especially Jews – who dare to come onto the Mount, and who go into paroxysms of rage should they see a Jew actually daring to pray to YHWH …on a site that was used by Jews for the worship of YHWH for at least 2000 years before Islam was even invented.

    Meanwhile, the focal cities of Islam, Mecca and Medina, are both absolutely closed against the entry of all non-Muslims. Not even to *visit*, much less to pray.

    Non-reciprocity, much.

    Muslims are like nasty toddlers: “What’s mine is mine and what’s yours is mine also”.

    Since Muslims will not allow Christians to pray in the Hagia Sophia and since Muslim mobs curse and throw rocks at Jews who try to visit the Temple Mount, I do not see why any Muslims should be allowed to do “prayers” – ie their ritual cursings and massed threat displays – inside a Christian church or for that matter within any other non-Muslim place of worship.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 6:17 pm

      Every time I read an article about the Temple Mount and what Jews are not allowed to do, what parts they are *allowed* to visit at certain times, but the muslims have free and easy access, and from history, the many churches that were used to discuss the Bible and Jesus Christ and were taken over and turned into mosques, it reminds me of what Jesus said about reading Daniel and using “discernment” when we see or “catch sight of” the “disgusting thing that causes desolation standing in a holy place (Matthew 24:21).”

  119. voegelinian says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    Interesting — my early comment here on how this woman’s spirited defiance represents (or should represent) a kind of “shot heard around the world” has vanished (yes, I checked both “Older Comments” and Newer Comments).

    • Edward says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 6:37 pm

      I have noticed. Perhaps her involvement is best forgotten for the sake of her safety. Prayers for her and others who stand-up for their Christian values. Lack of her personal fear will keep evil away from her and as well from all of us when we affirm our TRUST in our Creator! In Him nothing is impossible!

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 16, 2014 at 11:19 pm

      Voegelinian, your “shot heard round the world” comment has not disappeared. You can find it here:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/11/woman-proclaiming-christ-ejected-from-muslim-prayers-at-national-cathedral/comment-page-1#comment-1148042

      Commenting on this thread has gotten so spirited—358 posts as I write—that there are *three* “pages” of comments. I’m sure you checked the “previous comments” page going back from here, but you needed to go back one more page to the earliest comments made here to find the post in question.

      And I agree with you—I hope this brave woman’s actions *do* serve as a shot heard round the world.

  120. TruthBe says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    Islam is our enemy period………….

  121. Edward says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    The ReligionofPeace.com Islamic Terrorists counter posted here on the JW webpages seems to spike in its numbers, when events take place here like the National Cathedral event in DC. A website that exposes the never ending cycle of Islamic atrocities worldwide that are tracked and counted.

    Since the Muslim world has planted their theocracy seed here in US soil last Friday, we can be assured that America will be sharing the brunt of these atrocities when the US citizens, like you and I, continue to voice our objections of their calibrated intrusions of our American established culture! In spite our objection to their locked-in theology, the Islamic community will diligently demand that our culture will not co-exist with theirs…as was exhibited at the Cathedral event. It was a ONLY believers activity scenario.

    The so called Islam Religion of Peace is not what I witnessed! Those attending the prayers didn’t even have the courtesy, as other civil minded religious people; who usually show a welcoming gesture. They should had offered God’s like loving amenity, but the guest was welcomed with hateful evil enmity…. it showed this just by the very way she was escorted out of the sanctuary……..God’s sacred house!

    Sacred, I say because in the past the National Cathedral has held many solemn and notable events. Sad that the Stewards of this sacred building decided to open their portals too far, thus ALLOWING satan to slip in into their solemn chapel’s to desecrate them!

    Sacrilege: an act of the stealing of anything consecrated to the service of God. [ALPHA-OMEGA]

  122. Uncle Vladdi says

    Nov 16, 2014 at 9:43 pm

    WND did a follow-up interview with the brave female Christian protester:

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/11/christian-booted-from-national-cathedral-speaks-out/

  123. KiwiKaffir says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 1:51 am

    The times they are a changing …. The day will come when mosques will be open for Christians or whosoever ….

  124. Edward says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 10:14 am

    Thank Allah It’s “Jum’ah Friday” (TAIJF) at The National Cathedral—A Guide For Perplexed Non-Muslims

    (click on the counter splash to find the blogger’s link to this article quicker)

    An essay about the National Cathrdral Muslim Friday prayers event by blogger Dr. Andrew Bostom.

    ‘Keynote Muslim Sermon Recites Koranic Themes of Conquering and Condemning Christians and Jews at National Cathedral “Ecumenical” Event’
    This essay writes about the Islamics penchant for symbolism – historical dates of past conquests and events that corresponds to a present notable event- The National Cathedral Ecumenical Event. The title of the blogger’s essay tells us about the content of the: ‘Keynote Muslim Sermon Recites Koranic Themes of Conquering and Condemning Christians and Jews.
    These heartless bastards have no remorse of their past atrocities not even a hint of shame!

    To think this evil aimed events has been allowed continuously unabashed and certainly unabatedly for 1400 years.

    • Edward says

      Nov 17, 2014 at 10:17 am

      Typo error should have been….

      (Click on JW pages’ thereligionofpeace.com Islamic Terrorists counter splash for redirection.)

      Tnx

  125. Steven Hauptman says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 12:11 pm

    OK for muslims to desecrate OUR holy places with their prayers but you try to go into a mosque and cover up anything Islamic to hide where you are and try to offer prayers to Christ and see what happens.

  126. voegelinian says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 3:36 pm

    Well, I waited a couple of days, and what a surprise, “Natalie A Sera” was a Leftist drive-by.

  127. almeira says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 10:05 pm

    Woe and eternal shame on all the planners of this terrible event !!!
    I say it over and over again.Saudi’s oil money showing its strength in government houses and in the churches of the MOST HIGH GOD on America soil again.
    Gina Campbell,you are a shameless one!
    I will not call you,the fake evil and mamon bishop of that National Cathedral @ Washington and all other co-planners **the outcast** so it seems not am judging you,but by and large,believe me
    or not JEHOVAH’s punishment is on you all.You are all accursed for bringing abormination into the holy place of GOD,those that brought strange fire onto the holy altar of GOD in the old testament were not spared by GOD,”Lev 10:1-3″.
    How much would all of you planners have collected from the ensanguined hands of the ishmaelites ??
    This you ve done is an abormination of desolation on the holy altar of the MOST HIGH GOD,in the name of religious tolerance,honestly,you ve missed it
    Woe on Obama’s present administration,too.
    So what that during your tenure Osama was killed,then what ? Check the ratio,1 to about 6,000,and just about 10 yrs later and some people will be saying sorry underneath to the house of war of the islam.Big shame to John M.
    Founding fathers of the great America will never forgive you all

  128. almeira says

    Nov 17, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    Woe and ethame on all the planners of this terrible event !!!
    I say it over and over again.Saudi’s oil money showing its strength in government houses and in the churches of the MOST HIGH GOD on America soil again.
    Gina Campbell,you are a shameless one!
    I will not call you,the fake evil and mamon bishop of that National Cathedral @ Washington and all other co-planners **the outcast** so it seems not am judging you,but by and large,believe me
    or not JEHOVAH’s punishment is on you all.You are all accursed for bringing abormination into the holy place of GOD,those that brought strange fire onto the holy altar of GOD in the old testament were not spared by GOD,”Lev 10:1-3″.
    How much would all of you planners have collected from the ensanguined hands of the ishmaelites ??
    This you ve done is an abormination of desolation on the holy altar of the MOST HIGH GOD,in the name of religious tolerance,honestly,you ve missed it
    Woe on Obama’s present administration,too.
    So what that during your tenure Osama was killed,then what ? Check the ratio,1 to about 6,000,and just about 10 yrs later and some people will be saying sorry underneath to the house of war of the islam.Big shame to John M.
    Founding fathers of the great America will never forgive you all.
    As per that woman of courage,Mitchell or what your decision and steps you took and all your effort of telling the invited muslims and all that were present there ofJESUS being the LORD and worthy of worshipping than mohammad fake moon god of the zoroastrian arab were a real sermon before there fake hate and haughty sermon,you did not know that most of the people invited knew nothing about JESUS and you just showed them,trust JESUS,HE would always make your statement richochetting over and over again,they never had and may never have the opportunity to hear that again.
    Mitchell,you were not afraid or ashamed of telling these perishing souls of JESUS,even as most of us will be boiling internally and can be afraid to take this your gigantic step,whaow !!! I am telling you,you are one in a billion.Thumps up for you. An evil minded woman and some carnal lipserving bishop started it but a godly zealot woman and some spiritually divined prayerful people backing you up did the better thing,may GOD‘s glory continue to cover your life,your family and those of the prayer warriors with you.What a great courage and faith in land of Israel.

  129. SallyA says

    Nov 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm

    My opinion: Christine Weick, brave anointed hero; Gina Campbell, dhimmi idiot or covert traitor who does not deserve a “rev.” title, not that paid religious hierarchy is a fit for me as a direct-access spiritual follower of Jesus Christ and Mother Mary.

    Nobody needs a millenia-old “holy” book or current “holy” man or men (or women like Gina Campbell) as authoritarian example to follow, and Islam is the outer darkness of the extreme end of the authoritarian monotheistic spectrum that other modern religions have mainly disavowed. Christians might consider letting go of all authoritarianism of purported anointed or otherwise designated human leadership, and instead of letting Muslims in to pray at churches, let the community’s people in at churches to have fun creatively and spiritually in a fluid, evolving manner.

    Creativity instead of churchianity might broaden the base of those in western civilization who oppose the obvious authoritarian horrors of Islam. Bible-thumpers who burn the Koran just look petty, and accomplish nothing in building an anti-Islam coalition. But the clear and personal Christian faith of Christine Weick showed bravery, adventurousness and truth. More of us need to be willing to speak candidly, and start the dialog from what our experience shows as our part of reality.

    Authoritarianism cannot tolerate candor, reality and speaking out. Islam is nothing if not uber-authoritarian in its theocratic politics of conquest. People who don’t get this basic fact about authoritarian Islam aren’t paying attention, or they are collaborators for their own reasons with our Islamic enemies.

    • Edward says

      Nov 18, 2014 at 11:00 pm

      Yes SallyA! The authoritarian mechanism as you labeled these mindless maligned warriors of an evil cause is the right one to pin them with. With this power they assume is used to arrogate the right to make decisions for others. This is their MO. Their battle successes we have seen is due to their expert use of fear, of which they have instilled to the weak.

      With the Islam community…you don’t win with diplomacy, that’s for the politicians to try. You will only win with an ultra intelligent military armed with psychological cohesive tactics savvy !

  130. Kielykd says

    Nov 23, 2014 at 2:38 pm

    I sent a comment to Rev Gary Hall (dean@cathedral.org) I encourage all to do the same:

    Rev. Hall,
    I am deeply saddened that in the vain hope of encouraging interfaith trust and dialog in allowing a muslim prayer service to worship their allah of the Qur’an within the church dedicated to the New Covenant of Jesus Christ (Who’s divinity they vehemently deny) we are only signaling to the islamic believers that Christians will not defend their faith.
    I would challenge, but I know the outcome already, that you extend to the ADAMS center a request that a Christian Service be preformed in one of their mosques and if one of their believers stands up to declare the allah is god and mohammed his messenger then he be ejected from the service immediately.
    I, and I suspect you as well, know they will never allow apostates and non-believers in their holy place.
    The outreach is sadly one-sided and should make it clear that there seems to be no universe in which islam will tolerate anyone but themselves or a small weak population of subdued dhimmis.

    Please defend our faith, not in denigration of others beliefs but in reaffirming the uncompromising declaration of ours: “We believe in one God The Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds (æons), Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; by whom all things were made; who for us men, and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, and was made man…”

    If this is outreach then you must demand they extend the same opportunity of Christians to raise our voices to God thru Jesus Christ within the walls of a venerated mosque.

    If this is accomplished I will have hope, if it is refused (or some excuse presented why it cannot be done) I will not be surprised.

    Please honor me with a reply.
    Sincerely,

    Dr. Kevin D. Kiely, DMD

    Williamsburg Va. 23188
    kielykd@gmail.com

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