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As jihadis took hostages in Sydney cafe, police were doing outreach at mosque

Dec 14, 2014 8:35 pm By Robert Spencer

LindtsiegeBitter irony. One thing you can be sure of is that these police officers who were touring the Lakemba mosque were not challenging Muslim leaders to teach against the ideology of the Islamic State that they ostensibly reject.

As the hostage situation in Australia began, many Sydney police officers were busy conducting outreach in a nearby mosque. This from a reporter for the UK’s Guardian:

I am seeing a lot of people tweeting/asking about the supposed police raids taking place in Lakemba at the same time as the siege. Ray Hadley, a conservative presenter with 2GB, said raids of homes in Lakemba, which has a large Muslim population, were taking place now.

Sources have told my colleague Michael Safi there are no raids underway in that suburb. About 20 police are touring the Lakemba mosque as part of a police induction day, which may have been the source of those reports.

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  1. Jay Boo says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    Is it better that they like us
    or is it better that they respect us?

    • mortimer says

      Dec 14, 2014 at 9:34 pm

      They neither like nor respect ‘dirty kufaar’…nor will they ever until they leave Islam or we join it.

      The reason they hate is because Allah commands them to hate. Allah tells Muslims that Abraham is an “excellent example” for the believers when he tells his family and other pagans that “there has arisen, between us and you, ENMITY AND HATRED FOREVER, unless ye believe in Allah and Him alone” (60:4). The same verse relates that Abraham is not an excellent example when he tells his father, “I will pray for forgiveness for you.”

      No respect will be given.

    • ken cicala says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 12:47 pm

      forget like or respect… just throw the bastards out of your county.

  2. jay says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 8:52 pm

    Raids wouldn’t be very tolerant of them. Better to play pretend condescending friend while behind your back they’re holding your citizens hostage.

  3. g london says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Remember guys, “this has nothing to do with Islam”!! Lol

  4. Wellington says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Tip of the iceberg stuff here, not only for Australia but for the West in general.

    Respecting a far larger dimension, while wishing Australia well in this particular act of Islamic barbarism, I would contend that it is in the interest of ALL non-Islamic nations to lessen or bury their differences and concentrate on the reality that Islam wants ALL the world under its domination eventually (after all, Islam doesn’t divide the world into the dar-al-Islam and the dar-al-harb for nothing). Here lies a golden opportunity for Russia, China, India, America, Britain, France, Brazil, et al. to quit the secondary nonsense stuff and align against an ideology which, as Benjamin Netanyahu accurately assessed in his recent speech at the UN, considers itself the “master faith” much as Nazism considered Teutons the “master race.”

    Alas, sadly, and all that, I fear this golden opportunity will not be acted upon, either because of very limited human beings leading nations, people like Putin, Obama, Cameron and the present leadership of China, or because Islam will, courtesy of stupid dhimmis aplenty in most every sphere of life, still be given a pass because the assumption exists (quite wrongly) that a major religion cannot be malevolent (though it can and Islam is the living proof here).

    It’s at times like these that it’s difficult not to conclude that man never learns. Islam is counting on this particularly woeful and inveterate kind of ignorance. In fact, never learning and Islam have a great deal in common and the latter profits directly propotionally to the extent that the former wanes.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 14, 2014 at 9:39 pm

      Joe Biden is the problem and politicians like him who think they understand Islam after listening to DISINFORMATION from smiling, friendly Gulf diplomats educated in UK.

      Joe Biden hasn’t bothered to read the Islamic Trilogy (Koran, hadiths and Sira) so he doesn’t know what he thinks he ‘knows’.

      Joe Biden is intellectually lazy…a pseudo-intellectual.

      • Wellington says

        Dec 14, 2014 at 10:11 pm

        I submit, mortimer, that Biden is not even a pseudo-intellectual.

        • Alissa says

          Dec 15, 2014 at 8:08 am

          I agree. Looking at him….Listening to him….makes me want to kick something.

    • Alissa says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 8:36 am

      Yes Islam is counting on the many lazy dumb shallow self serving types within the electorate to continue on their path of naive, happy clappy, feel good, socially stylish sentiments right up to the day the sword hits their necks.

      And of course our traitorous main stream media and useless governments only smooth over any bumps that might hinder the barbaric muslims ongoing efforts to destroy us whether openly hostile or stealth.

      Change will have to happen at the grass roots level by smaller groups spread out but interconnected who are brave and determined to stand up and talk talk talk to everyone everywhere about what’s happening. The HUGE population of retirees are the best group to start something.

      Remember muslims at this point in time only make up about 5% of the population in the western world and look at the shit storm of trouble they’ve caused us. They are having 5 or 6 children between husband and one wife; for those men with several wives…..? What will be left of our culture and freedoms in a generation (20 years).

  5. Bezelel says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Every country that hosts the maggots is inviting this very same scenario. You really can’t be on guard 24/7. Especially in disarmed countries. It is grossly irresponsible for governments to gamble with our safety. It’s even more risky than gambling. immigration + islam = violence. That is not a theory.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 14, 2014 at 9:45 pm

      The history of Islamic countries confirms that jihad violence is periodic. Western politicians are under the fear of being called bigots. After several more hostage incidents involving ordinary shoppers, the jihadists will be seen to come from the Islamic community and we will finally realize that is where they get their training and support.

  6. mortimer says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    Stockade??? I prefer a Devil’s Island where they can cool their heels for life.

  7. Champ says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    “…police were doing outreach at mosque”

    Hmm, I just made some to-die-for-delicious Christmas cookies! …hey does anyone in the area want the recipe to bake ‘n take to this worthy cause? ..sarc :/

  8. st. patrick says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    Hey there Champ..How ’bout pound cake with lots o sand?..no sarc..Take care Champ and have a Great Christmas!

    • Champ says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 12:35 am

      Thank you, St. Patrick!! ..and Merry Christmas to you, too, my dear friend!!! 🙂

    • Champ says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 12:36 am

      “How ’bout pound cake with lots o sand?”

      LOL!! …good one, sounds yummy!

  9. St. Croix says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 10:38 pm

    The past few days alone have seen several notable, head-shaking examples of this kind of dhimmistic irony. Our world is becoming increasingly surreal. I’ve always wondered how could something like Nazi Germany have happened. Right under everyone’s noses? I’m getting glimpses into that now on a daily basis–how it might have felt to see it unfolding. It just feels very weird.

    Thankfully people like Robert Spencer have helped rouse me out of the stupour I was in; I didn’t know what Islam really was and what the Qu’ran really says. Now I’m telling everyone I know. The ones who thought I was just being a paranoid nut are now sitting up and coming to their senses as well. How can any sane person deceive themselves on this issue? It’s just THERE! Just take the word of the terrorists on this: they are obeying the teachings of their “faith” by carrying out these acts of murder, terror and oppression.

    • Alissa says

      Dec 14, 2014 at 10:55 pm

      So true. I completely agree with you. Our world and future has changed forever. Makes me sad and scared because I know in my gut that there is trouble ahead. There’s no way to avoid it.

    • Judi says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 5:50 am

      St.Croix and Alissa – ditto!

  10. Alissa says

    Dec 14, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    Now doesn’t that title just say it all. Sooner or later there will be an uprising and the muslims know it and so do the governments of the western world. Placating to openly hostile and stealth jihadists does no good. With domestic terrorist attacks on the rise around the world, people are starting to wake up. This is why the 2nd amendment is so important. The government does not and will not protect the people.

  11. Brian Hoff says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 12:21 am

    Your doctor is waiting to give you your rabie shot before you die of rabie.

    • duh_swami says

      Dec 15, 2014 at 5:46 am

      Derfender…Can you explain why chapters 8-9 are even in Allah’s holy book, the Quran? Thanks…

      • Pradman says

        Dec 15, 2014 at 6:40 am

        Fuck your porcine quran

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2014 at 12:05 am

      Notice that “Brian Hoff’—really, “DefenderofIslam”—considers someone suggesting deportation of ravening Muslims to be “rabid”, but has *no word of condemnation* for his savage coreligionist who has taken a cafe full of innocent people hostage, and who goes on to murder two of them. *Ugh*.

  12. Coolio says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 5:36 am

    Here’s some outreach you poor dumb cops. Learn a bit about the bloody founder:

    Mohammed was, despite his criminal activities, a man who prayed regularly to Allah (Allah was, and still is, the Arabic word for God, used by Jews, pagans and even Christians of the region). He realised that his power was tenuous; his followers feared him, but they did not hold him in great respect. The future prophet spent long periods meditating in a cave of the Hira mountains near Mecca, where he may also have stored loot.

    Around the age of 40, Mohammed received what he claimed was his first visitation from an angel. The visions continued and took the form of lucid daydreams. They felt, he said, like some sort of revelation or truth. The angel told Mohammed to read (or, since he was illiterate, listen) and recite what he read (or heard). Mohammed was very concerned that he was possessed by a demonic spirit (indeed, if you believe in such spirits then you may say that his initial suspicions were correct). Mohammed contemplated suicide, revealed his vision and confided his fears to Khadija. She then tested whether he was possessed by a good or evil spirit. When the spirit was upon him, she had him sit on her lap while she was wearing a veil. The spirit stayed, but disappeared when she unveiled. She therefore concluded from her experiment that the spirit was good. It was some time before Mohammed identified the angel – as Seraphel (replaced by Gabriel a few years later). In Islam to this day, unveiled women are considered such an abhorrent sight that they will scare an angel away.

    Khadija had a older cousin, Waraqa bin Naufal, a convert from Judaism to Christianity and learned in Judeo-Christian scriptures. Waraqa had also been impressed with Maysara’s vision, and believed from his studies that the Jew’s promised prophet would yet arise amongst the Arabs. Khadija spoke to Waraqa about Mohammed’s visions; Waraqa became excited, full of O’s, lo’s and verilys. “Holy! Holy! Verily by him in whose hand is Waraqa’s soul, O Khadija” he said. “There hath come unto him the greatest Namus [Gabriel] who came to Moses aforetime, and lo, he is the Prophet of this people. Bid him be of good heart.” Waraqa encouraged Mohammed, but warned that his own people would turn him out. This doubtless flamed the fires of paranoia in Mohammed’s ugly black heart, making him even more thoroughly intolerant to a single word of criticism. Moslem scholars haven’t been very nice about Waraqa either, either denying his Christianity or making him out to have rejected Mohammed.

    Like many people who had the misfortune to encounter the Prophet, Waraqa died soon after, although not at the hands of his anointed messiah. Mohammed broke into suicidal despair again, but the angel encouraged him, saying “O Mohammed! You are indeed Allah’s messenger in truth”. Allah would reveal messages through the angel, which Mohammed should distribute to his followers.

  13. David Woolmer says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 6:31 am

    Now yet another attack on a flat in the city of Ghent in Belgium by Islamic gunmen-just reported!

  14. Locoluis says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 7:44 am

    You can’t impose a faith by gunpoint. You can’t convert anyone by gunpoint. Your dreams are abomination, your ambition is not virtuous.

    Those who kill are murderers, no matter the reason. Those who die because of their faith are martyrs, and God is on their side.

    You will all pay for your insanity. You will all answer for the blood in your hands. The same God whose name you keep yelling, He will spit you from His mouth.

    As you do to your brothers and sisters, thus will be done to you. You’re not forgiving, hence you won’t be forgiven.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 18, 2014 at 12:13 am

      Those who kill are murderers, no matter the reason…
      …………………………

      Are you condemning the police for killing this ravening Jihadist, and hence saving most of the people in the cafe? I’m not.

      Killing in self defense to save the lives of others *is not murder*.

  15. Bill says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 10:53 am

    “Outreach”? To Muslims? What a perverse waste of time.

    Google search “civil wars in the world” and determine who the combatants are. Today Muslims fight against all religions and cultures, worldwide. They fight against Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, Copts, atheists, Sikhs, Confucians, Shamans, animists — ALL non-Muslim cultures. They fight in China, Russia, Bosnia, Cyprus, Macedonia, Israel, Pakistan, India, Indonesia-Ambon & Halmarhera, Côte d’Ivoire, Kashmir, Algeria, Mauritania, Morocco, Tunisia, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Bosnia, Kurdistan, Kirghizia, Nigeria, Philippines, Somalia, Turkey, Chechnya, Sudan, Yemen, Thailand, Uganda, Dagestan, Azerbaijan, Mali, Chad, Syria, Iran, Libya, Bangladesh and East Timor.

    While they fight they have baby Muslims at astounding rates, overwhelming the natives with sheer numbers. And the result is always the same:

    -10/12/12 http://www.bosnewslife.com [After 500 years of relentless Muslim encroachment and civil war] Bosnian Christians are massively leaving post-war Bosnia-Herzegovina amid mounting discrimination and Islamization. There are just 440,000 Catholics left in the Balkan nation, half the [Clinton] prewar figure. Cardinal Puljic complained that while dozens of mosques have been built in Sarajevo no building permissions were given for Christian churches.

    Waiting for Muslims to assimilate is cultural suicide.

  16. Prinz Eugen says

    Dec 15, 2014 at 11:55 am

    The Allies had a most effective “:”outreach” program vs. the Axis — came in many shapes, B-17, B-24, B-25, B-29, Lancasters … note that the Pearl Harbor attack was late in 1941, but by autumn 1945 the Axis ceased its warlike endeavors. What is the hangup now? Too many crooked traitorous politicians “in cahoots” with islam?

    Not bringing a war to a successful conclusion is simply SURRENDER. Unacceptabler!

  17. gravenimage says

    Dec 18, 2014 at 12:24 am

    As jihadis took hostages in Sydney cafe, police were doing outreach at mosque
    ……………………………….

    Suicidal madness.

    And the Lekemba Mosque is deeply disturbing all by itself. It has hosted Anwar Al-Awlaki, and their Imam Taj El-Din Hilaly has supported Jihad terror attacks.

    Here’s more:

    “Sydney Islamic terror cells hold War Council at Lakemba Mosque following beheading demands”

    http://australian-conservative-truth.blogspot.com/2012/09/sydney-islamic-terror-cells-hold-war.html

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