An hour and a half ago I wrote this: “There will also be a heavy barrage of ‘backlash’ stories — indeed, they have already begun.” And a bit before that: “The pattern never changes: in the wake of a jihad terror attack or plot, Muslims in the West do not do what they should do: redouble their efforts against jihadis in their own communities, and their cooperation with law enforcement officials. Instead, they claim that they are being victimized by a ‘backlash’ and try to seize the spotlight as victims.” The mainstream media aids and abets this. Reuters here has nothing at all: two protests that didn’t happen, a hearsay report of a woman who was spat upon, and one man saying (quite correctly) that “there is no moderate Islam.” Where are the Reuters stories about what Muslims are doing to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that give rise to so much violence committed in the name of Islam and — according to those who perpetrate it — in accord with its teachings? Where are the Reuters stories about what Muslims are doing to reassure Infidels, instead of the other way around, in the wake of yet another jihad attack? Yes, the Muslims in Australia condemn this attack. Very well. What are they doing to prevent Muslims from reading Qur’an 47:4 as a justification for taking hostages? What are they doing to reform Islamic teachings so that no violence is ever done in accord with those teachings?
And the answer is nothing, except to shine a spotlight on themselves and proclaim, We are the real victims. No innocent person, Muslim or non-Muslim, should ever be attacked or brutalized or spat upon, etc. But this Reuters report is grotesque: a Muslim, acting explicitly in the name of Islam, just held a group of non-Muslims hostage for hours, terrorizing them, and at least one other person besides him is now dead because of his actions. Instead of writing about what the Muslim community can and should be doing to prevent this, we get yet another in an endless parade of backlash stories — with the intended effect of deflecting scrutiny away from the really important questions. After all, if saying “there is no moderate Islam” is a sign of a backlash, there can never be the needed public discussion about whether or not there really is a moderate Islam, and what should be done to deal realistically with the jihad threat.
Tensions surface as Australian Muslims fear Sydney siege backlash,” by Jane Wardell and Matt Siegel, Reuters, December 15, 2014 (thanks to Kenneth):
SYDNEY (Reuters) – Religious leaders and ordinary Australians sought to defuse communal tensions on Monday, after a siege at a Sydney cafe by a gunman who forced hostages to display an Islamic flag raised fears of a backlash against the country’s Muslim minority.
Within hours of the attack on the Lindt cafe in the centre of the city, a Muslim group reported that women wearing the hijab had been spat on and the right-wing Australian Defence League called on followers to protest at two major mosques.
The protests did not materialise and little is known about the true motives of the gunman.
He had a flag proclaiming “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet.” He said that his hostage-taking meant that the Islamic State was attacking Australia. His motives are plenty clear.
But in the harbourside city, home to half of Australia’s 500,000 Muslims, police moved on a man shouting anti-Islamic abuse at the scene of the ongoing siege.
The man strode up to a police cordon and shouted: “Someone is going to die here because of Islam! There is no such thing as moderate Islam. Wake up and smell the coffee.”
He was confronted by another man who shouted back: “Muslims are welcome here.” Police urged the first man to leave, to a mix of catcalls and claps of support.
The siege coincides with growing concerns in Australia about the dangers posed by Islamist militants, with the country’s security agency raising its national terrorism public alert to “high” in September.
The same month, anti-terrorism police said they had thwarted an imminent threat to behead a random member of the public and days later, a teenager in the city of Melbourne was shot dead after attacking two anti-terrorism officers with a knife.
‘Shock and horror’
New South Wales Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said he was working closely with community groups and there would be an increased police presence in the city to “ensure that everyone is kept safe”.
The Australian National Imams Council, together with the Grand Mufti of Australia, issued a statement saying it “condemns this criminal act unequivocally”.
An umbrella organisation encompassing all of the major Muslim groups in the country called for calm and expressed “utter shock and horror”.
The group stressed that the black and white flag, displayed by tense hostages in the window of the cafe and juxtaposed against the “Merry Christmas” sign stencilled beneath it, was a statement of faith, not politics.
“We remind everyone that the Arabic inscription on the black flag is not representative of a political statement, but reaffirms a testimony of faith that has been misappropriated by misguided individuals that represent nobody but themselves,” the group said in a statement.
News of the hostage drama flashed around Sydney shortly after most of the city had begun the working day, shattering what should have been a quiet Monday in the sunny Australian commercial capital just over a week before Christmas.
Samier Dandan, a spokesman for the Imams Council, said the group had already received reports of women wearing the hijab, or Islamic head scarf, being spat on and harassed.
“We are sending out the message to our community to be vigilant about where they are going because we don’t want any incidents to fuel the fire,” Dandan said.
Those reports bore out concerns of locals like Mohamad Hasan, a computer engineer who emigrated to Australia from Jordan 20 years ago, who said he was deeply worried that Muslims like his wife could be attacked simply for wearing traditional clothing.
“I am worried because maybe I don’t look like a Muslim, but my wife like, (is) wearing a head scarf, so she might be affected by this,” Hasan said, speaking a few metres from the scene of the hostage crisis.
“Some stupid people … think ‘this is a Muslim, we should get revenge (on) everyone looking like a Muslim’.”
But many Australians took to social media to express their support for Muslims.
The Twitter hash tag “#illridewithyou”, expressing support for Muslims who felt vulnerable on public transport in the wake of the siege, attracted tens of thousands of messages of supporters within a few hours.
Nicolai Sennels says
Maybe this might help explain: “Psychology: Why Islam creates monsters”
10news.dk/?p=309
jihad3tracker says
Let me add this, because Dr. Sennels is too modest to do so :
He is one of the West’s most valuable counter-jihad experts — deeply knowledgeable, risking a professional reputation to do research on the sociology / pathology of Islam (if that is a reasonably accurate clear way to describe it).
PLEASE, EVERY READER HERE, VISIT HIS WEBSITE — and pray for his survival as fervently as we pray for the safety of Robert Spencer. Courageous persons like them do not come along very often.
BlueRaven says
Dr. Senneis – very informative article, though we need more than thousand samples to make some of the people raise their eye brows. We all share your conclusion, that we are heading for a clash of the civilization against Islam. If people are not joining dots, they will feel the wrath of Islam, like one of the misguided Brit who went to give ISIS his services and got his head handed to him.
alyn21 says
Dr Sennels studies are interesting but they really do not tell us anything we don’t already know. I would be more interested in a study on why so many people seem to not want to hear the facts about Islam.
See Dr. Bill Warners video called Why We Are Afraid
jihad3tracker says
Yes, alyn21, Bill Warner is another 24/7 tireless counter-jihad resource for truth and understanding about Islam.
His website is http://www.cspi.com. Highly recommended for a visit . . . and he publishes items for us Kuffars who want to get educated. I bought two selections last year.
jihad3tracker says
OOOPS ! ! ! Correction : Bill Warner’s URL is http://www.cspipublishing.com.
voegelinian says
Sennels’ essay on the psychology of Islamopathology does contain some assumptions (assumed conclusions); such as, for example:
Nobody is born a mass murderer, a rapist or a violent criminal. So what is it in the Muslim culture that influence their children in a way that make so relatively many Muslims harm other people?
Few of us would balk at this assumption (I wouldn’t). Another one which quickly follows, however, is not so unremarkably uncontroversial:
But as with all other religions, Islam also influences its followers and the culture they live in.
This assumes that all religions have apparently the same sociological mechanism by which to inculcate culture; but in fact, Islam shows so many different and complex and often subtle indications of having a remarkable ability to, not to mince words, brainwash more broadly (in numbers) and deeply (in psychological hold) than other religions or cultures seem capable of doing. If one does not recognize this, but rather proceeds with the assumption Sennels does, one may well seek (or construct) flawed explanations for certain psychological and cultural phenomena that come to one’s notice.
A subtler assumption precedes that last quoted one, to wit:
I am, of course, aware that Muslims are different, and not all Muslims follow the Quran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example.
One would be inclined to agree, if we limit “the Quran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example” to actions such as stabbing, beheading, thievery, raping women, and raping little girls – which ostensibly millions of Muslims are not (currently) doing. However, if we take the “and perverted” clause seriously in terms of an Islamoliteracy, we would know that the problem of the Violent and Depraved Jihad is joined at the hip with a Stealth Jihad – which includes taqiyya, which, in turn, includes such subcategories as False Moderation and False Assimilation, all pursued in the service of, precisely, “the Quran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example”.
Once we factor this educated realization into our analysis, we cannot so glibly assume, as Sennels seems to do, that we are, of course, aware that Muslims are different, and not all Muslims follow the Quran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example. — but in fact we would have to assume the uncomfortable (and acutely uncomfortable for those among us who still harbor high degrees of PC MC in their psyche) inference that all the Muslims who seem ostensibly outside the sobering indictment of actually adhering to, and promoting (remember: whether frankly, or stealthily) the Koran’s violent and perverted message and their prophet’s equally embarrassing example, are not in fact exempt from our suspicion of doing just that. And, unless we want to continue playing Muslim Roulette with our lives and the lives of our children (and grandchildren into the decades ahead), we will not contort ourselves in a myriad ways trying to figure out how to save Muslims from our rational condemnation as deadly to our societies.
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“But as with all other religions, Islam also influences its followers and the culture they live in.
This assumes that all religions have apparently the same sociological mechanism by which to inculcate culture”
No, that just says that islam, like all other religions (IMO, islam shouldn’t be described as a religion but that’s the mainstream term), influences its followers and the culture they live in, regardless whatever sociological mechanism by which they inculcate culture. What voeg tries to argue is that islam and muslims are a danger not because of what the religion says per se but because of how the tenets of religion are passed on, i.e., that the root cause of the “angry muslim” syndrome present in very similar ways in muslim communities worldwide regardless of whatever culture they are born and raised in is not islam itself but the way islam is taught. This is, of course, false: there’s been a plethora of native US/European converts to islam who are raised in a western fashion but after converting to islam ended up joining the islamic state. They were not “brainwashed”, they did not grew up in a place where they were taught since birth that islam is the only true religion, they were not raised on a culture that despises critical thinking.
“If one does not recognize this, but rather proceeds with the assumption Sennels does, one may well seek (or construct) flawed explanations for certain psychological and cultural phenomena that come to one’s notice.
(…)
we cannot so glibly assume, as Sennels seems to do…”
Nicolai Sennels is a psychologist with first-hand experience with criminal muslims, a field he’s been studying actively for years. He was threatened with losing his job if he were to discuss his findings, and he published a book on the subject, Among Criminal Muslims. A Psychologist’s Experience from the Copenhagen Municipality, which was well-received by his peers. And yet, voeg (who, as far as I can tell has no verifiable credentials or any sort of experience in any of those subjects) acts like he knows better than Dr. Sennels. This is classic voeg: from the way he acts he knows more about any subject more than anyone else, and if you disagree with him then you’re wrong and you deserve to be derided, ridiculed and belittled.
voegelinian says
I see Frick and Frack are at it iagain, swooping in like jackals to protect innumerable Muslims from the extremism of voeglinian. And I see, in response, my stalwart allies in the Counter-Jihad… nothing but tumbleweeds and the whistling winds… oh well…
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“I see Frick and Frack are at it iagain[sic], swooping in like jackals to protect innumerable Muslims from the extremism of voeglinian[sic]. And I see, in response, my stalwart allies in the Counter-Jihad… nothing but tumbleweeds and the whistling winds… oh well…”
This is the quintessential voegelinian response: no discussion or counter-argument, just plain derision and the explicit accusation that if you disagree with him then you’re “swooping in like jackals to protect innumerable Muslims“. Almost as if he doesn’t know that argumentum ad passiones is a logical fallacy. Do keep in mind that he recently stated that he doesn’t mind when others disagree with him regarding his ideas. If I were to call him a liar or a hypocrite for saying one thing and acting the exact opposite I’d probably never hear the end of him claiming that I “attacked” him.
Notice that he uses the same method used by leftists and islamic apologists to silence others: why bother to meet people like Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim or David Wood in the open field of rational discussion when they can simply call them “racists” or “islamophobes”. Likewise, why would voeg bother to argue about his ideas and credentials when he can just say that those who disagree with him are “protecting Muslims”?
Also notice that the overwhelming majority of voeg’s derision and criticism is directed at counter-jihadis instead of muslims and islamic apologists – and I say “overwhelming majority” instead of “all” because i’m giving him the benefit of the doubt, not because I remember seeing him engaging a muslim or islamic apologist here on JW.
I stand by my words: the issue lies with what islamic theology teaches, not with the means by which is taught, and voeg, unlike Dr. Sennels, has no verifiable credentials either in the field of psychology or in work with muslim criminals so voeg’s criticism of Dr. Sennels has nowhere to stand on – saying you’ll “assume an inference” is as solid as saying you’ll “calculate on a guess” or “speculate on a possible conjecture”.
gravenimage says
Voegelinian wrote:
And I see, in response, my stalwart allies in the Counter-Jihad… nothing but tumbleweeds and the whistling winds… oh well…
…………………………
I hadn’t even read this exchange until now.
But I have to say, these “jackals” don’t sound terribly vicious in this case. I’m sure you’ll be fine.
Mirren10 says
”I hadn’t even read this exchange until now.
But I have to say, these “jackals” don’t sound terribly vicious in this case. I’m sure you’ll be fine.”
*Nice* one, graven ! 🙂
Oceanside says
“Muslims in Australia say they fear Sydney jihad hostage crisis backlash”
They should. They deserve it. And if they were REALLY afraid, they’d LEAVE THE COUNTRY. No one is forcing them to stay in Australia. No one–except Muslim leaders–is asking them to come.
And for those new Aussie converts, they need to pack up and leave too. Go to an Islamic country and quit trying to create your “caliphate”.
wallace says
Coffee shop violence?
Zebo says
No-swiss chocolate shop violence.
Choq was not halal enough!
Paleologos says
There needs to be a real world wide backlash to islam. All western civilization and other, non islamic countries that don’t have a death wish, … need to deport all muslims now.
Sorry, Robert …
“No innocent person, Muslim or non-Muslim, …”
I strongly disagree.
There is no such entity as an innocent muslim. Anybody who has reached the age of cognizance, and has signed up to the moon god death cult needs to go away.
islam is a vile ant-western ideology, masquerading as a religion, that wants to take over the world.
Robert, tell me, please … where is the innocence in that?
R/
Paleologos
zebo says
You comment is pretty crappy and inaccurate.
There are innocent muslims like there are other people,because islam has created a fantasy bubble of peace for those who want to live in a fantasy worpd and for peaceful spiritual people.
Islam needs such people for positive pro islam PR purposes and to attract all kind of people.
That’s why islam is full of contradiction.That’s why in islam for every good word(for the naiv&good) exists a bad abrogative version(for the warrior and sociopath)
You can live your entire live in such a bubble if you are not capable of critical thinking.
And the more people live in that bubble the easier it is for you to ignore reality.
This is neither specific islamic or religious behaviour but herd mentality-the genovese Effect.
Miss Genoveses’ killing went on for almost 1 hour inside a huge building.It is confirmed that 40+ people(none of the muslim) eye or earwittnessed her killing but noone did a thing to help her,neither called the police
because they thought”if noone is reacting than everything must be ok”
How far even well educated people will go as soon as they acceppt a role even in a simulation
was proven in the “Stanford prison experiment” where fake prisoners submitted to violent guards though both group knew that it was just a role playing game.
These both example explain how group dynamics work and grow and how easy and ignorant good people can become within even a very short period of time.
No imagine you have been indoctrinated since birth.
You have to understand how a system works if you want to expose it.
It is the good muslim who is responsible for the success of islam and makes it so hard to expose these religion and make people think:islam is good.
It is the good muslim bad muslims(incl. mohammed) are hiding behind and using as cover
and it is the good muslim who is fooled and missused by the real islam.
Good muslims are pretty easy to spot-they behave the opposite way mohammed did.
Paleologos says
zebo,
I don’t allow the term “innocent muslim,” because, as I stated, cognizance should reject islam on a multitude of grounds.
Have you followed Robert’s blog very long? Do you know how many countless times he has referenced hateful passages, verbatim, in the koran?
Ever see this video? …
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v18194091Bzm5chet?h1=Fitna+von+Geert+Wilders
Your statement …
There are innocent muslims like there are other people,because islam has created a fantasy bubble of peace for those who want to live in a fantasy worpd and for peaceful spiritual people.
… is preposterous. People who live in a “fantasy bubble,” as you put it, are not innocent, they are god damn stupid!
People like you, who make excuses for the millions of brain dead muslims, are exactly the type of people who never hold these islamic idiots accountable for anything.
Keep spreading your “fantasy bubble” for “peaceful spiritual people” theories … islam will surely bury you, and everyone else living in your fantasy bubble.
God gave us the ability to tell right from wrong, … God, not the vicious moon god allah.
Tell me where my statement, … “islam is a vile ant-western ideology, masquerading as a religion, that wants to take over the world.” … is wrong.
… and spare me comments like, “You comment is pretty crappy and inaccurate. …”
You are woefully misdirected.
R/
Paleologos
jay says
Yep, I saw this on social media about how muslim women will now be targets and muslims in general are the real victims. This world is high on PCP, that’s the only explanation that makes anything make sense anymore.
Wayne says
Australians are supporting a Twitter campaign #Illridewithyou so muslims don’t feel persecuted in the wake of the hostage situation. Really, Australians are so stupid, they do not even realize their country is being marked for extinction as a civilized land.
Mirren10 says
”Australians are supporting a Twitter campaign #Illridewithyou so muslims don’t feel persecuted in the wake of the hostage situation.”
And I have not the slightest doubt that mohammedan parasites in Australia are laughing gleefully inside at the stupidity, wilful naivety, and sheer suicidal behaviour of the ”najis kufr”. 🙁
FatherJon says
What worries me now is that the killer’s widow is speaking publicly in the same way, claiming that she’s a terrorist. Time to revoke her bail before she also gets a gun –
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/siege-widow-amirah-droudis-undergoes-an-extremist-makeover/story-fnl2dlu7-1227159974448?sv=d972a5682933b119325cbff0fa21bf79&utm_source=The%20Telegraph&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&net_sub_uid=76012237
Twostellas says
The backlash they fear is what is known as telling the truth about Islam and Muhammed. Gotta pre-empt that and associate and smear anyone who may even comsider telling the truth as a murderous ,wants all Muslims dead, vilolent, hateful agitator at heart. Smh.
It will just all work out somehow without this truth telling happening, otherwise that will make Muslims mad and upset their sensitivities and we all know what happens then. It’s terror, plain and simple. Muhammed said it made him victorious, after all.
pdxnag says
Where are the stories of Muslims declaring their apostasy from Islam because Islam is violent and cannot be reformed from within?
St. Croix says
There are lots of them actually, but they can’t shout it out too loud or they’ll have their heads chopped off. Many are openly or secretly converting to Christianity; some speculate that this is fuelling Christian persecution and murder by IS in the Middle east in particular:
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2012/12/14/al-jazeerah-6-million-muslims-convert-to-christianity-in-africa-each-year/
“In December 2001, Sheikh Ahmad al Qataani, a leading Saudi cleric, appeared on a live interview on Al-Jazeera satellite television to confirm that, sure enough, Muslims were turning to Jesus in alarming numbers. “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity,” Al Qataani warned. “Every day, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.”
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Stunned, the interviewer interrupted the cleric. “Hold on! Let me clarify. Do we have six million converting from Islam to Christianity?” Al Qataani repeated his assertion. “Every year,” the cleric confirmed, adding, “a tragedy has happened.””
Re: those still posing as muslims but secret converts:
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/11/04/350-million-muslims-are-secretly-living-lives-as-christian-converts/
There are many others who just become atheists or what have you, and are also killed if they speak up. Recent example of Ahmad Harqan who is now–as far as I know–still in jail where he and his wife were thrown days after this interview (in which he openly declares his state of unbelief in Islam). Apostasy is punishable by death according to the Koran. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/012-apostasy.htm
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St. Croix says
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/012-apostasy.htm
That should explain why you don’t hear them.
jay says
Well wow, that proves it then. How about the actual antisemitic statements from the holy Koran, Hadith and almost every single Islamic leader in the world past and present and the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood was a Nazi party supporter and vowed to carry on Hitler’s vision? Or does it not count when Muslims do it.
zebo says
Well,it is always good to read some other points of views and to show techniques people use,
but it absolutely does not matter who is saying what(as long as it is not filled with hatred and pushing and manipulating people into violence)
it does not matter who is blaming who as good people can lie and bad people can tell the truth
it is only about wether it is true what is written or not.
And mr spencers analysis about the true nature of islam are pretty accurate.
I’m pretty sure christy has good intentions but his good intention will never change the true nature of islam .
Champ says
“I’m pretty sure christy has good intentions” …
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I respectfully *disagree* …this poster constantly attacks Robert Spencer and his “followers”, as christy puts it. Sorry, from what I can see, christy does not have any good intentions, and the ugly truth about islam escapes him, as well. Take care.
gravenimage says
Did the appalling “Christy” finally get banned? Her constant false moral equivalence and outright apologia for evil is completely disgusting.
Twostellas says
Yes, yes, we all know Robert Spencer is just like Hitler and Bill Maher is just like the grand dragon of the KKK. / Gotcha.
maqabim says
As long as the dominant political left in western countries go all pavlovian over perceived ‘victims’ (of white colonial imperialism, sexism, racism, etc.), the jihadists and their supporters will milk that angle for all its worth. Can’t you just hear our astute leaders waking up to this obvious strategy and refuting it with inductive reasoning?
*crickets*
Angemon says
Why would Reuters (or any other MSM for that matter) let facts get in the way of a good, PC, feel-good-about-yourself story/narrative?
Salah says
@Christy
Did Muhammad enjoy…watching???
“The characteristics of the menstrual blood according to the Apostle of Allah (pbuh) are: one: it’s black, two: it’s thick, three: it’s intensely heated, four: it comes out gently and not as a flowing stream, five: it has an offensive smell unlike other bloods…”
The Large Commentary (Keys to the Unknown), al-Razi مفاتيح الغيب للرازي 6/56
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/04/muhammad-and-menses-mahomet-et-les.html
jayell says
Two questions. 1. How did the Prophet come into such regular close contact with menstrual blood that he was able to describe it in such detail? I’ve been married for 35 years and I could never have come up with THIS! 2. How was he so apparently keenly aware of the differences between menstrual blood and ‘normal’ blood unless he had had adnormally close contact with both kinds over a protracted period?
particolor says
Well back then The Local BUTCHER was often the Gynaecologist too !!
mariam rove says
Muslims, the biggest whiners and victim hood. They don”t do Jack…. to counter terrorism but as soon as one of them commits an act of terrorism they cry backlash. m
Zebo says
“We are the victims,my friends
and we’ll keep on fighting until the end
no place for kafurs
cause we are the champions of the world
and we mean to go on and on and on and on
(lyrics by queen aisha)
mariam rove says
Muslims are so delusional about their religion. I was just talking to my sister back home in Tehran. We were talking about the Iranian guy who took hostages in Sydney. She said to me he is not a real muslim. Good muslims don’t do things like this. I was going to ask her when was the last time you read the koran but I decided not to. It is f…useless. M
zebo says
1)most muslims never read quran because they can’t read
2)even those muslim who can read don’t read iran because they are afraid of the truth.
That’s why even in muslim countries where an intellectual elite has survived 1400 years islam(iran,egypt) most people know nothing
3)muslims can always rely on ex-muslims like you,that you won’t ask them things that can make hurt their soul and they missuse your empathx :)(i’m reacting many times that way to avoid trouble on a larger scale)
Jaladhi says
These stupid people have been “victims” and yet they have managed to kill more than 350 million an counting non-Muslims world wide including more than 80 million Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc., in India in last 1000 years.
The cry of victimhood runs hollow – they are real genocidal killers!!
kanwarjeet says
Unfortunately most of the innocent victims of backlash will be Sikhs who (a) do not believe in any ideology of Islam and (b) tie a turban. To the average man on the street a Sikh is the primary target. While I feel for the Muslims it is the Sikhs I am more concerned about.
gravenimage says
Infidels are not violently targeting Muslims in any case, so your supposed fears about the violence being so great and indiscriminate that Sikhs are going to be victimized is nothing but calumny.
Steffen Larsen says
Christy’s little piece seems to be from 2011. I could be mistaken.
After Breivik people got busy connecting his actions to Spencer and other “islamophobes”, and some inventive comparisons were made.
http://middleclassdub.blogspot.dk/2011/10/islamophobia-and-antisemitism-same.html
A commenter a few months later pointed out the faulty reasoning: “you think it smart to align verifyable quotes from Islamic scripture and facts held up by Spencer with the phantasmological Elders of Zion babble of Herrn Streicher?”
Tradewinds says
Shut up Abdullah “christy” – the Muslims are the Nazis so just can it with your BS.
Wellington says
You are deceitful, Christy. HIghly so. The quotes you provided did not take into account certain HUGE DIFFERENCES such as: 1) Jews in inter-war Germany, or anywhere else for that matter, weren’t harming anyone while Muslims today are harming huge numbers of people——over 24,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11——-by contrast, how many Jewish terrorist attacks were occurring in Europe between 1919 and 1939?; 2) The Old Testament is not a paradigm for action for all time, contra the Koran; 3) Julius Streicher was not speaking in the name of liberty and equality under the law but rather for an ideology, Nazism, which is totalitarian in nature as is Islam, contra Robert Spencer who very much has spoken up time and time again for the cause of liberty and equality under the law, which are two major features of democracy at its finest; 4) Julius Streicher was a liar and a hater, contra Robert Spencer who is a truthteller and not a hater.
You should be ashamed of yourself but you won’t be. What a sad excuse for a person you really are.
epistemology says
Very well said Wellington as usual. Christy has no idea what he’s talking about. But our politicians and the media haven’t either.
Wherever you go, (I can’t get Fox News) people keep prevaricating. We don’t know what this guy’s motives are, he seems to be mentally deranged etc. Of course he is, as Islam is a mental disease. But they keep telling us time and again this isn’t the real Islam. Islam is the religion of peace(TM). We’ve seen it many times.
After the brutal murder of Lee Rigby in Woolwich (London) David Ca-moron said that it had nothing to do with true Islam.
The killer of Fort Hood was convicted for workplace violence, it had nothing to with Islam, although he’d been running around in a supermarket allahu akbaring and wearing a nightgown.
What kind of evidence do we need? What kind of clarion call? Maybe Iran nuking Israel. But then it’ll be more than too late. I can’t understand the reactions of the Western world.
Take care my friend, and I wish you and your loved ones merry Christmas.
Wellington says
Islam, as you said, epistemology, I have increasingly come to look upon as a form of mental illness. That it is bad news for freedom, there can be no doubt for anyone who has sense and knowledge (this would, of course, as you indicated, exclude many Western elites).
May you and yours have a memorable Hannukah. Take care, my friend.
Peter says
Post-Jihad Attack MO:
(1) Muslim community distances itself from the perpetrator(s)
(2) Muslim community claims Jihad attack(s) has (have) nothing to do with Islam, the perpetrator was kicked out of the mosque, etc…
(3) Political class, media and other Useful Idiots claim Islam was hijacked, the
perpetrator(s) misunderstood their religion, Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, etc…
(4) Muslim community plays the “backlash” victim card, and Useful Idiots kowtow….
So predictable.
Ha Meshuga says
Meet the palestinians…attack Israel, Israelis, Jews etc and then cry when they get their just deserts…its the old arab honor/victim mentality….
JMB says
I live in Sydney, I have only just heard this news, I am outraged.
I have a sense of outrage every time I drive past the Lakemba Mosque, it is alien & evil. I have a sense of outrage when I see our streets crowded with Muslims in all their medieval costumes. I am outraged that our government has been allowing these people into Australia for at least 40 years now. I am outraged that our governments have not listened to the concerns of the people about Islamic immigration to this country but instead have given Muslims the full protection of our human rights laws.
As for the NSW Police, they can not even enforce traffic laws when it comes to Muslims, it will be interesting to see how they deal with this disaster.
The reaction of the Islamic Community here in Sydney will be quite predictable, Crocodile tears.
The reaction of our Governments. “Call for calm” and spend more money on promoting multiculturalism and combating Islamophobia etc.
My thoughts on how to deal with this. All Muslims should have been interned/deported following 9/11.
And finally and most importantly my thoughts go out to the victims families.
alyn21 says
I am surprised that CNN has not figured out a way to blame Israel for this unfortunate event.
SpiritOf1683 says
They’ll be working on it, and you can bet we’ll eventually hear the boilerplate “If we could get enough concessions out of Israel” etc.
bobm says
muslims fear!…muslims fear?…they use the standard of their own ways to bafflegab us.. these activities are hallmark of islam..this is what you say when you can’t find Jews to blame.
bobm says
when will the “collective ” media BEGIN to pull its head out…???they can’t figure out the motive!… theater of the absurd…
Mark says
I’ve always wondered why it is islamaphobic to say that you are worried about the Muslims attacking in public places, but for Muslims to say that they are worried about backlashes is OK.
When the backlash doesn’t happen its even considered “understandable” when endacious grievance-mongering taqiyya-artists fabricate them!
Anon says
Victimology experts.
Still no full re-write of the unholy ‘quran.
Islamisdeath says
Oh waaa waaa waa! STFU and stop killing people ye denizens of hell who have invaded our countries! Innocent people again murdered in cold blood by rabid death cult zombies and who is being coddled, who is crying and whining? The death cult zombies. They do it all the time but for some reason this time it just frackin infuriates me!
Oliver says
RE: twitter- I’ll ride with you.
how many of the ‘ tens of thousands” are real; other then other Muslims; and other then make believe? (like, who is going to audit- for want of a better term- the responses?
And, (I am not on twitter) but isn’t it possible, like ti is on facebook, to have more then one account, udner more then one name?
gravenimage says
“I’ll ride with you” could not be more perverse—Muslims murder innocent Infidels, and suicidal Infidels rush to show their support for Muslims over the ever-fictitious “backlash”.
The other irony, of course, it that if this wasn’t such good PR for Mohammedans, they would be “Honor Killing” Muslimahs in Niqabs and Burqas who dared to let Infidel males ride with them.
The Infidels would be targeted for violence, as well.
What a bunch of useful idiots!
Elizabeth says
There is a major difference between “DO-Gooders” and those who DO GOOD!!! Do gooders have arrogant and self indulgent,self motivating narcissistic motivation behind their so called good deeds,all of which are designed to gain them fame,accolades from other ill advised morons and any other perks that they can get their hands on. Those who do good have pure intentions and discreetly and humbly attempt to make a positive impact on society without looking to gratification and accolades from anyone else,let alone boasting about their genuine actions. I have to agree with your comments.Can I say also that Ill ride with you is a farcical wank of a scam in order to bignote the individuals and to once again give attention to the monotonous bitching of the muslims that proclaim victimisation.Did not one of these fools stop to think that Ill ride with you had the great potential to place unsuspecting lives in danger by willingly placing trust in complete strangers?Could this not have also been a means by which angered non muslims who disagree with Muslim beliefs could get close to these people in order to hurt them?Every day people are attacked,this was an incredibly stupid and highly misguided notion.What would have happened if someone had of truly been the targeted for victimisation?Who then once again cops the blame if it had of happened to an unsuspecting potential victim??? Would tht be the rest of Australia???As a peaceful citizen,I am sick of being disrespected as an Aust citizen for the mere fact of not being muslim and hearing constantly that we are hostile and discriminatory people.That is hurtful and offensive to hundreds of thousands of Australians. This sentiment is a reason why people are beginning to become frustrated and wish to stay away from anything to do with this culture.It is frightening.We should not be living here in fear.We should not be slaughtered nor have the rights that have been fought for by our forefathers and those still fighting for us today ignored nor revoked because others refuse to adapt to the place that they have chosen to live…Many of them,unharmoniously and contemptuously abuse our way of life and us as individuals.
Nicu says
So what ?
They attack everybody who doesn’t look like a Muslim – so they see how it is !
Do they ever say they disagree with these radicals ? NO !
Edward says
“The Australian National Imams Council, together with the Grand Mufti of Australia, issued a statement saying it “condemns this criminal act unequivocally”.
Enuf of the rhetoric already, you organized your own mess now clean it up…..as a good civic minded Australian should. Are you afraid of your own? Hear us up mate and police those that stir up the rest of your own community!
VLParker says
Muslims don’t do what they “should do” because in reality they agree with the jihadists.
Doc says
Some may agree, but I think it’s more than that. Fear plays an important part in this, fear of backlash from a radical (true) follower of Islam to someone who is a moderate (not really a follower).
Mira says
What about they backlash on us when they demonstrated in the streets of Sydney and Melbourne because somebody from Egypt have wrote something not nice about they prophet Mohamed, in 2012 or 13 there was black flags with this kind of writing on it and Hamas flags,and Hezbollah, there was a Muslim woman with a child in the pram holding a sign “DEATH TO JEWS” and they where a taking police, where they not afraid of backlash than??? only now?? lol
Oliver says
Were the ‘moderate” Muslims the ones (including in New Jersey & Cal) who celebrated the attacks on 9/11 in New York & Washington? Along with their “moderate” brethren in Gaza, under the late, unlamented Yasser Arafat-dancing in the streets and passing out chocolates? (Until Arafat ordered the filming to end- and- as best i recall, tried to destroy all evidence of this).
or the “moderate Muslims who this past weekend cheered Hamas, which has brought nothing but poverty to Gaza, with their calls to annihilate Israel?
Are they your moderates?
jayell says
If they basically didn’t agree with these jihadists, then they shouldn’t call themselves ‘muslims’. Islam IS about ‘jihad’. It (global domination) is the main aim of this ‘religion’, and if anyone tries to tell you otherwise, they’re deliberately lying (taqqyia). I for one am getting utterly fed up with all this evasive, high-sounding, pseudo-moralistic whinging from these followers of the ‘Religion of Peace’ as they try to wriggle out of the corner that their co-religionists have boxed them into as they (the jihadists) demonstrate the ugly reality of this ideology before there’s been a proper chance for them to infiltrate, contaminate and subvert our societies in the rather more subtle way many of them would plan. And as for all the righteous hand-wringing from muslim bloggers in our UK press who say that they are ‘ashamed to be muslim’, why don’t they just do the obvious and decent thing and leave this contorted sham of a ‘faith’? Or are they afraid of the consequences from their oh-so-peace-loving-and-generous fellow friends of Mohammed?
particolor says
But You can Never Leave the Halal Certified Hotel California !!
Vienna says
I have been a reader of Jihad Watch for some time, comforted in knowing there are others, particularly fellow Australian’s out there who see islam for what it is, a putrid… actually there are no words that fully encapsulate the vile, evil thing that islam is. The fury that I feel right now at the reporting of the ‘backlash’ the ‘poor’ ‘victim’ muslims might suffer because one of their own acted on the commandments in their filthy book, has resulted in me yelling at my TV since it began, I want to reach through the screen, grab the stupid reporters/presenters around their necks and shake them until they see the truth! I can’t believe they just buy what the islamic apologists and imams are selling without researching the book of filth or hadenoughs or the perverted ‘prophet’. It sickens me, and I sit here feeling powerless. I don’t remember ever feeling such rage as I do now.
I don’t use twitter but would love to hear that someone has started one along the lines of #protectusfromyourbrothersandsistersofislam and fill it with all the atrocities that muslims have inflicted on innocent people all around the world. Maybe shorten it to #protectusfromislam
Juzz F says
How is that any different from any other religion that has slaughtered thousands of innocents in the name of their “God”? What’s good for one should be good for the rest.
Vienna says
1. I’m speaking about modern times, islam is at the top of the list for world wide atrocities.
2. I don’t support killing in the name of any religion.
3. islam calls for jihad against the ‘unbelievers’, and it’s 7th century philosophy is followed to this day. And yes I know there are extreme elements in other religions, but they haven’t enacted anywhere near the number of terrorist attacks as muslims.
4. False equivalency, but I’m glad to see you agree that muslims have slaughtered thousands of innocence in the name of their god.
5. Yawn…
gravenimage says
What idiotic false moral equivalence. Who else but Muslims are slaughtering innocent people in cafes and schools?
Particolor says
You can Lengthen it again The Murdering Inbred Barbarians Have just Murdered 141 Children in Afghanistan !!.. But its safe to go about Your Business !! Yeah OK ??
Chris says
They obviously deserve a very strong and stern backlash.
Cair and the moslem brotherhood playbook should not be allowed on Australian soil.
These moslems should START BY APOLOGIZING TO EVERY MAN AND WOMAN ON THE STREET THEY MEET AND BEG FOR FORGIVENESS FOR PRACTICING ISLAM.
Instead they are worries about a backlash?
sheik yer'mami says
Why did police ask former terror suspect for an ISIS flag?
Counter Terrorist police have asked Sydney man Zaky Mallah for an ISIS flag
The request came just over four hours into the Martin Place siege
2GB broadcaster Ray Hadley says the gunman has made a series of demands
Mallah, 30, was first Australian charged under new terror laws but was acquitted
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2874073/Why-did-Counter-Terrorism-police-ask-Sydney-man-former-terror-accused-Zaky-Mallah-ISIS-flag.html#ixzz3M1DA9qo2
http://sheikyermami.com/we-are-the-bad-guys-if-we-werent-why-would-muslims-want-to-kill-us/
Vienna says
Why did the police ask for a isis flag?
I guess they were considering giving in to his demands (see YouTube hostage footage, available at:
https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/?_s_ref=B13vGv2pS&kw=seven%2520news&creative=29399309337#page1
I wonder if they realise that he wanted it to create an isis terror video, possibly a beheading?
eduardo odraude says
Here are some videos from one of the most brilliant, informed, and creative Islam-critics, David Wood.
Short Version: Dude, Who Killed My Prophet
Longer Version: Who Killed Muhammad
CNN, Corbin, and Muslim Feminism
Five Reasons the Qur’an is not the word of God
Islam has a secret Santa
eduardo odraude says
Here are some videos from one of the most brilliant, informed, and creative Islam-critics, David Wood.
Short Version: Dude, Who Killed My Prophet
Longer Version: Who Killed Muhammad
Islam has a secret Santa
eduardo odraude says
Here are some videos from one of the most brilliant, informed, and creative Islam-critics, David Wood.
Short Version: Dude, Who Killed My Prophet
Longer Version: Who Killed Muhammad
eduardo odraude says
Seems Jihad Watch only lets up post two live links in a comment now. Tried to post five, then three, and both comments did not appear. Then I tried two links and the comment appeared…
Mo says
“Muslims in Australia say they fear Sydney jihad hostage crisis backlash”
And that’s as far as I read.
I am SICK to death of the whining, victim mentality of Muslims.
No one buys it anymore. (Not that I ever did!)
Toby says
They were jumping into the victim seat while the hostages were still being held. This has become a standard part of the Muslim playbook. No matter what atrocity is committed in the name of Islam step 1 is to deny it has anything to do with Islam. We actually had a guy on TV saying that the flag held up during the siege was not a religious flag. It said “there is no god but allah and mohomed is his messenger” If that is not a religious flag then can anyone tell me what a religious flag looks like? Other people pointed out that is is not the ISIS flag but only a statement of Muslim belief as though this somehow made it ok. The irony that they were making that point that this was not some ISIS madman but just an ordinary Muslim seemed to have escaped them.
Step 2 is to claim that Muslims will be victimised in reprisal attacks. The fact that reprisals never happen does not matter. Unless of course you think that someone being called a name is the same as being held hostage and killed by a Jihadist.
As much as I despise these people I reserve a special hatred for the useful idiots who go along with these lies. The #Illridewithyou hashtag is wildly popular with these idiots who are falling over themselves to prove they aren’t racists by standing in solidarity with Muslims who are all to eager to be the real victims of yet another Islam inspired crime. These people are quick to point out that you can’t judge all Muslims by the actions of one man while at the same time they assume that Australians are anti-Muslim racists because 1 woman felt uncomfortable about wearing her scarf on a train. Their hypocrisy and self loathing knows no bounds. And yes, I realise that “Muslim” isn’t a race but that piece of truth, like so many others, just doesn’t seem to matter any more.
particolor says
You are only stating part of their Master Plan ! Its all written into their Script !!.
I think they have gone a Step too Far this time ! And there is nothing worse than a Pizzed Off Aussie !!.
The Inbred Murderers just wont know When ??
Bezelel says
Call it backlash or whatever, the “muslim community” needs some incentive to clean up their act. That could come in many forms but I doubt public beheadings will be used.
bobm says
victim card as usual.. cover for likelihood that they would shed rivers of blood for less…
particolor says
They will get one of our Taxpayer Funded so called Lawyers and a W as P Judge ! And get out of a Straight Jacket for Anything they do !! AS USUAL !!
Fr. Basil` says
How many mosques in the west have been vandalized or destroyed by Christians?
How many church in mahometan lands have been desecrated?
The vilest of Creatures says
GET READY TO THROW UP…….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7dOPh2YHA
the WHOLE concern by these PC POS’s is about the safety of Muslims in lieu of the Sydney hostage and murders.
Ernie says
Dear Mustapha : Thank you for this excellent commentary ! I completely agree with you . “If Muslims fear a backlash then they should change their behaviour , it is , afterall their behaviour that is the real problem here “.
eduardo odraude says
Here’s another brilliant video from David Wood:
Five Reasons the Qur’an cannot be the word of God
It should knock your socks off.
AKA2014 says
I have lived among them for years, if anyone wishes to argue with me come down to Sydney’s South West and see for yourselves. You will see high- crime, low integration and high unemployment. Let me also add a high number of recruits for IS. All these Arab Islamists have done is cause trouble and grief. Every ethnic group eventually integrates but its always them that stand out and cause problems. Then they have the audacity to ask for dialogue? What dialogue? If they are so peaceful and law abiding why do we need dialogue? The Greeks, Italians and Vietnamese never ask for dialogue. Why is it always them that stand out? They have very much to atone for and very little lecture us on. Especially when it comes to dialogue. They are rat cunning and they are feeding off the goodwill and naivety of the Australian people. Obviously there are some remarkable exceptions but sadly their voices are drowned out.
Rob says
Why today of all days the Guardian UK has chosen to publish a critique of Australia using Manaus as a processing centre for ME asylum seekers.
Did the intrepid Guardian newshounds stop off in Indonesia to ask questions there?
The world’s most populous Muslim nation refuses to accept any co-religionists from the ME and facilitates their passage to Australia.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2014/dec/16/-sp-welcome-to-manus-island-changed-forever-australian-asylum-seeker-policy?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
don vito says
Why Miss Christy, I do believe you are piggybacking from one post to another here at JW. So far everyone is safe, we’ve all been ducking from the acid you’re throwing. Nearly got that puppy in the corner though, luckily it moved just in time. Why do you throw acid at puppies? Why do you hate puppies? Puppies won’t perform FGM on you!
FatherJon says
I certainly don’t feel any empathy with the Muslim community in Australia at all. Quite the opposite. There have been too many incidents now for me to feel any friendship towards them. From street riots; honour killings of wives and daughters; child brides; secret FGM operations; gang activities of various types; drive-by shootings; street ‘da’wah’ harangueing; to most recently a couple of hundred wannabe jihadis running off to ISIS-land as volunteers, even threatening the land that granted succour to their parents.
For a community that comprises a mere 2% of the population they have a long litany of bad behaviour and anti-social activities that surpasses the record of any other ethno/religious groups. Perhaps it’s the violent messages inherent in the religion they euphemistically call the ‘religion of peace’, perhaps it’s in the Levantine DNA, I’ve no idea. All I know is that I don’t want anything to do with any of them.
Will says
So they should if they try something as the temperature here is near boiling point and most non leftists are smarting over the governmental bull effluent pouring out. The Eureka Stockade Flag will be rising soon if they do not grow some testicles and point out the real cause and take some action..
particolor says
If they don’t do something soon they will be Growing a Beard instead and Wrapping a Tea Towel around their Thick Heads !! If they are allowed to keep it that is ??
Dave says
The list of horrific crimes against Islam is far too extensive to even begin to bother listing. As long as Islam exists these will continue. Islam makes Nazism, Communism, the Inquisition and everyone else’s crimes against humanity pale into insignificance. The Crusades by the way were a response to a cry for help from the victims of Islamic invasion in the Holy Land.
particolor says
And they have been Crying Racism EVER SINCE !!
ken cicala says
The liberals don’t seem to understand this evil religion but when the Muslims start to kill these liberals then maybe they will get the idea.
Toby says
One of the lead stories in the Sydney Morning Herald today is from the head of the Islamophobia Register telling us all how her heart sank when she saw the Islamic flag, how she couldn’t get a taxi to pick her up because of her clothes, blah, blah, poor me. Over a dozen people held hostage, two dead, others wounded but it’s really all about her. Absolutely disgusting.
And my spellchecker actually recognises islamophobia as a real word How the hell did that happen?
DiMu says
Instead of bleating about their own safety while innocent Aussies are slaughtered, if they had one single thread of decency they would renounce their pathological ideology and apoligize to the world!
jayell says
“Muslims in Australia say they fear Sydney jihad hostage crisis backlash”…..GOOD!!!!
particolor says
No doubt The Madhammered said something in the Kran about Backlash against Backlash ??..Smote the Infidel No less !!
Sam says
Poor muslims, they always suffer you know.
Alice says
projection.
It’s what they would do.
jimbo says
and the dhimmis shoo away the on-caller, who states that due to islam someone is going to die in the siege.
well was he right !@! yes he was. and was the perpetrator a muslim ? yes ? and did he do it in the name of Islam ? yes.
and the idiots onlookers booed him and gave him catcalls.
i think the dhimmi public are as much to blame for their ignorance as the enemy-media !~~!!
stupid is as stupid does, Sir !!
gp says
Muslims in Australia say they fear Sydney jihad hostage crisis backlash- I wish to extend the finger of friendship to each and every one of them.
Oliver says
To GP– what finger?
I would hope ( although not in Australia, and never have been and have no intention of going) that it is the one on a the trigger of a gun (pistol, revolver, rifle, etc).
They deserve it.
( and I will probably be criticized for saying this).
FatherJon says
Yep, which finger? The forefinger of ISIS extended upwards to Allah, or the middle finger in the universal symbol of scorn. I don’t want either!
Michelle says
I hope they are in fear of backlash, we have been living in fear of them for long time so let hem taste they own medicine for a change and i hope there is a backlash, that will make other Muslims who wont to emigrate to Australia legally or illegally change they mine and make others who are sooo religious live our beautiful and free shores.
PatnCats says
I saw that #Illridewithyou utter nonsense on MSNBC news yesterday. Are you kidding me?? Walk a burka clad or nijab clad woman to where, work, groceries, the mosque? Someone MIGHT FROWN or SCOWL at them? Well, I don’t wonder. I watched the news all day amazed at how the news pundits worked and worked the story to make this islamic terrorist into “just a crazy person and a lone wolf nut case” – not involved in any mosque at all and nothing to do with islam. Although adorned in the iman costume of 7th century desert Arab. No one touched him, out on bail for the murder of his wife? Well, I’m sure that islamic murderer WAS in a mosque and bowing 5 times a day to a building with a black meteorite stuck in the wall. That the mosque leaders deny this is typical lying to us infidels. They put out the propaganda and the news pundits gobbles it up to prove they aren’t greasy islamophobes. They news pundits are just shimmering with injustice of not accusing the islamic misunderstood lone wolf with a iman or muslim cleric, tho the man paraded around Sydney in the iman/cleric/muslim garb. Yes, then the #walkaburka to work to PROTECT them from the scowls of people. Oh give me a break! No wonder I quit watching the MSNBC, CNN and Headline news. I wait for Jamie Glazgov with the Glazgov gang or Robert Spencer on JihadWatch.com.
change watch says
The usual suspects in the UK are already trying to distance Muslim ideology from this awful atrocity, as they are with the Taliban schools attack in Pakistan (who the Pakistan media is blaming on the CIA and India). I am pleased to say that less and less people are falling for it. 5000 deaths globally per moth tells them something different. By refusing to be told ‘this is nothing to do with Islam’ is one of the few’ fight backs’ we have that wont involve us being thrown in prison for being racist.
Show them you know. If you buy one book this Christmas buy the one book the Government does not want you to read: A Consequence of Apathy by NR Baldwin . He is one of the few social commentators writing in the UK who is prepared to look at the future if we keep appeasing the Islamo-fascists. Get it, read it. Show them you know.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/A-Consequence-Apathy-NR-Baldwin
Oliver says
Change, Do you mean that Pakistan IS NOT BLAMING:\
THE MOSSAD; ISRAEL; JEWS ( IN GENERAL) for the atrocities?
They must be slipping.
They might lose their Muslim victim card and be accused of being secret Jews or Israeli spies.
gravenimage says
Oliver wrote:
Change, Do you mean that Pakistan IS NOT BLAMING:\
THE MOSSAD; ISRAEL; JEWS ( IN GENERAL) for the atrocities?
They must be slipping.
………………………………..
There are quite a few who are parroting these grotesque conspiracy theories:
“False Flag Attack on Peshawar School”
http://aanirfan.blogspot.com/2014/12/cia-gangsters-attack-school-in-pakistan.html
And there are several in the comments section here:
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2014/12/16/national/militants-attack-peshawar-school-five-students-injured/
A poster who calls himself “Pakistani” writes this:
“Taliban were prepared by Army on the wish of USA to support the cause of USA…Taliban, Drugs, Weapons all came into Pakistan in Army regime not in Civilian regime in order to serve USA purpose…”
Another poster writes:
Nawaz-league with his friends USA, IsraHELL, Hindustan maybe some other neighbors
And another writes:
Peshawar Tragedy
Who is the perpetrator ? The CIA,MOSSAD , RAW & Afghan Intelligence… The Main Objective of the Western Powers & India is to destabilize Pakistan & strike at our Nuclear Site. Allah has been our Protector.
…
As Muslims see it, Islam can never be to blame for anything—despite the fact that Islam is clearly the sole motivation for these pious Jihadists.
unbeliever1 says
Odd that this kind of protection is never offered to Jews and blacks; the real victims of hate crimes.
Barry K says
Reza Azlan , in a radio interview, spoke up for the Christians in Malaysia arguing that the christians have every right to refer to God as Allah in their worship and printed bible. He instead asked Muslims to be more concerned about the violence done in the name of Islam that brought shame and scorn to the religion. That angered the extremists and the reaction of the authorities was to bring the radio station to court, resulting in a fine imposed on the radio station for conducting the interview with Reza. Your blog might not think very much about it, but not among Malaysians, Muslims and Christians alike. They were appreciative of Reza and gave their support to the radio station by donating money towards payment of the fine.
Angemon says
Barry K posted:
“Your blog might not think very much about it”
There are reasons to why Robert Spencer doesn’t have the best of opinions of Reza Aslan (the least of them being the childish ad hominem attacks), and getting a radio fined isn’t going to change it (why was the radio fined when Reza was the offending party?). But I see your “he said non-muslims should use allah to refer to their God” and raise it with “he attacked Bill Mahers for talking about islamic terrorism”:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/reza-aslan-excoriates-bill-mahers-bigotry-offers-half-truths-and-deceptions-on-islam
Suffice to say that a member of a pro-iranian lobbying group who can’t get simple, verifiable facts straight on a published book and has the demeanour of a pouty child isn’t someone who should be taken seriously.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid Reza Aslan is no champion of Christian rights under Islam.
Veronique says
Hilal Certification is being imposed on Australian products. The profits are supporting terrorism. Some of those businesses who resist are being threatened. Lindt would not comply! co-incidence??? Just a underhanded way of colleting the jizzya tax. Mohammod sid the quickest way to convert people is to feed them Hilal. How stupid are some people? Unfortunately it is the innocent who will suffer.
FatherJon says
Yes, there is some evidence that the CEO of the Halal Certification Authority visited Lindt moments before the siege began. He’d been heavying the owners of Lindt and Sprungli to accept his Halal Certification despite their refusal. But I guess the police are checking that out too.
MukeNecca says
Muslims in Australia say they fear Sydney jihad hostage crisis backlash
Wouldn’t surprise me if Sydney’s imam declared that although there hasn’t been a backlash against the moslems yet he is sure the islamophobes will respond with one after some future terror attack. Maybe not the first, or second, but surely the tenths. Or twentieth.