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Egypt: Ex-Muslim says Islamic State follows Qur’an, Muhammad

Dec 6, 2014 8:10 am By Robert Spencer

In response, Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee member Sheik Sayyed Zaid doesn’t — at least in this clip — respond to the Qur’an verses that Harqan quotes. Instead, he just claims that the Islamic State is a Jewish plot.

“Egyptian Human Rights Activist Ahmad Harqan: ISIS Is Doing what the Prophet Muhammad Did,” MEMRI, n.d.:

In an October 21 TV interview, Egyptian human rights activist Ahmad Harqan explained why he had become an atheist and said that Islam is a “harsh religion,” which was being implemented by ISIS and Boko Haram. They are doing “what the Prophet Muhammad and his companions did,” said Harqan. According to media reports, Harqan and his pregnant wife survived an assassination attempt on October 25, and when they went to the police to complain, were arrested for disrespect to Islam.

Following are excerpts from the program, which aired on Al-Kahera Wal-Nas TV:

Atheist Ahmad Harqan: I do not believe in the existence of God. Being non-religious and leaving Islam is not something that I wanted, but having lived 27 years of my life in this religion, I decided that I could not go on [believing] in it.

All people could reach the same conclusion, if they were allowed to think freely about this. But the reality is that people are denied the opportunity to reach this decision. They are not allowed to think critically about religion.

Islam is a very harsh religion, and what ISIS is now doing is, perhaps, a physical manifestation of this religion.

[…]

The Quranic texts are crystal clear. When the Quran says “strike their necks,” it is very clear. When it says “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day, and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful, and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – until they give the jizya willingly while they are humbled” it is very clear, and ISIS understands and implements it in Iraq, Syria, and elsewhere.

Boko Haram are also implementing this when they capture women. This is what the Prophet Muhammad and his companions did.

[…]

Al-Azhar Fatwa Committee member Sheik Sayyed Zaid: I respect you as a person, Ahmad, but what you have just said is not worthy of respect, even though I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of belief. “Whosoever wills, let him believe, and whosoever wills, let him disbelieve.”

Egypt embraces, Bahais, Ahmadis, Communists, Marxists, Satan worshippers, homosexuals… Egypt embraces them all because it is the mother of all cultures and religions, even if some people renounce this.

[…]

When you say that “ISIS is like Muhammad,” and that Islam is “a criminal faith”…

Ahmad Harqan: I do say that it is a criminal faith, and that the Quran is full of teachings that incite to hatred and murder.

Sheik Sayyed Zaid: First of all, who says that ISIAS [sic] is an Islamic group? About a week ago, the American media declared that the ISIS leader, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi – who has nothing to do with Islam – is of Israeli origin. This is a Mossad ploy. America said this, not me.

Ahmad Harqan: I know that this is not true because people who used to be my friends joined ISIS.

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Filed Under: Apostasy, Egypt, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), Jihad doctrine, Qur'an Tagged With: Ahmad Harqan, atheism, muhammad, Sayyid Zaid


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  1. cs says

    Dec 6, 2014 at 8:27 am

    An other strong soul speaking up. And this TV program I think is the best they have there.
    Who knows things are about to change????

    • Arab Lad says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 8:37 am

      There is a youtube series which features atheists as there’s more and more of them, especially since Isis. However speaking on national tv about this is suicide. There have been calls for Ahmad Harqan to be prosecuted, jailed and/or hanged and he and his friends have been attacked before.

      • Tim says

        Dec 6, 2014 at 3:50 pm

        He and his wife got arrested just a few days after this interview. Extremely tragic. Just shows that Islam keeps people hostage. In reality not a single Muslim is really a Muslim… They are descendants of slaves under Islam. They should break free and return to their roots.

        • R Cole says

          Dec 7, 2014 at 8:59 am

          I was wondering if he would be arrested.

          If he is let go – he would be monitored by the Egyptian police – he may be rearrested several times – even tortured – and could have his passport revoked.

          It is similar to how western governments are seeking to deal with ISIS supporters – the Egyptian and other North African governments have been dealing with their converts from Islam. Only they do it in cases where there is the peaceful exercise of freedom of conscience – and the individual chooses not to follow Islam.

          Where our governments use some of the same methods to prevent violent jihad. Likely the wife of his friend who went to join Isis would not be arrested or interrogated – in the same way he and his wife were taken into custody.

          Egypt’s constitution says [or used to say] there is freedom of religion – except in practice the laws cannot contradict the sharia. So that the courts have legal grounds to forcibly convert people to Islam [where the father converts all children even adult ones are forcibly converted] – and at least on paper – state a person is a Muslim – even when they have renounced the faith.

          [Also your religion appears on your ID card in Egypt. These can be reissued to include ‘Muslim’ – but not to have ‘Muslim’ removed.]

          ::

          In our day – in so many ways – Muhammad would be a criminal. We can explain it away as being of that time – but Jesus preceded Muhammad – by some 600 years – and his behavior and message were markedly better. In contrast to Muhammad’s vision – which was largely about himself – Jesus vision was about truth and justice – and can easily be adapted to life in the modern world.

          Jesus would have never have needed to say – there is no compulsion to religion – because for a holy-man the mere suggestion implies dishonest intent. When Muhammad made this statement he hopelessly had only 100 followers – and it was only by compulsion that he brought Mecca and other parts of Arabia under Islam. It was only by compulsion that after his death this continued out to India and over to Spain. And today continues in the courts of law of the Muslim world – whose populations have little or no religious diversity.

          Look at the stories with Jesus for comparison – if back then – you had small children – would you let them flock around Muhammad? This guy did not have the same pulling power. People were not clamoring to see him – they were running from him ~ whole tribes. His message did not have the same appeal. [Name a single quote from the Prophet that has any real significance – outside of the slight of hand efforts to distort Islam true meaning. Proving that without the sword he had no power.] And worst of all he did not believe – in his own message. [So if he said something earlier – Muslims are instructed to discount these in favor of things he said later. He was a man who turn against himself.]

          Discredited – Muhammad said Meccans can worship the Goddesses – then said they could not – was left with no other choice – but make war to spread the semblance of a vision he held.

          This weak message – combined with the fear of conditioning – is what we are faced with today. Let it ultimately win nothing.

          ::

          Here we have a man speaking the truth about Islam – effectively in the lion’s den. And so he should be commended.

          Maybe he can become a spark for change in Egypt.

    • Arab lad says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 8:46 am

      There are but mostly on youtube. Saying this on national tv however is suicide. There have been calls for him to be killed and he has been attacked before. It’s very likely some will try to kill him in the near future.

      • cs says

        Dec 6, 2014 at 8:57 am

        One guy like this the UK or the USA won’t allow, but for salafis and wahabis things would be quite different.

  2. Buraq says

    Dec 6, 2014 at 10:00 am

    No, no, no, ….. it’s not ISIS that is a Jewish plot, it’s Islam itself! Look how poor and backward all the Islamic societies are. Islam is a Jewish plot to sabotage the Arabs, and any other competition, by synthesizing a religion that screws up all those who believe in it.

    Dump this false, synthesized religion. Prove that these shifty, Moriarty type Zionists don’t fool you with fairy tales about a flying horse and a Prophet who never prophesied once in his life. Wake up, I beseech you! Dump Islam!

    • mortimer says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 10:49 am

      Buraq, You forgot to include how Mossad drugged and hypnotized the CIA so they created 9-11 using Hollywood actors disguised to look like Arabs. The Jooz did it to destroy the prestige and beautiful IMAGE of Islam…which was so wonderful before 9-11! Ah, those crafty Zionists. Always trying to make Muslims look bad!

      • cs says

        Dec 6, 2014 at 11:41 am

        Muslim do have any shame of themselves, they are 1.4 Billion people, who have good hearts, but is always falling in the traps of the evil Zionists enemies I(not jews, mind you), these zionists trap the gullible Arab.
        It is the same as saying, “If I fall on my four claws I will eat grass.”
        It is confession of stupidity. It is very embarrassing. Would be a ashamed to be a muzzie.

        • cs says

          Dec 6, 2014 at 11:42 am

          typo: Muslims do not have any….

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 2:49 pm

      I tell people on youtube comments all the time- that Muhammad was a Mossad agent who planted to Koran to make Muslims look bad. But the muzzleheads don’t understand!

  3. let us learn what truth is says

    Dec 6, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    LOL, he is misquoting, i can also do such from bible or any other scripture, if i quote that rape is better than religion which was said by sam harris , an atheist or “people die in wars” which was said by bill maher
    there r many verses in quran which says not to kill non-beilevers…….this ex-muslim is a bastart wants to earn money, ya, i will also do that, critisize islam and then earn USD, and fool the west, coz thats what they want and thats they deseve

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 3:22 pm

      @ let us learn what truth is, “…if i quote that rape is better than religion which was said by sam harris , an atheist…”

      Well I don’t know whether or not Sam Harris said such a thing, but I can see that you want people to believe that Sam Harris is a bad man for saying this.

      Except I hear Muslims say ALL the time that “There is no crime/sin worse than shirk” and that “Allah will forgive all crimes/sins except shirk”!

      So is it not obvious that Muslims are far worse than anyone who calls rape worse than religion!!

    • St. Croix says

      Dec 6, 2014 at 10:20 pm

      @let us learn what the truth is

      Clearly he has put his life at risk by speaking out–and is apparently in jail at this moment. “He’s in it for the money.” What kind of dupe are you to believe and say that? He surely knows the risk he is running because he was a muslim and he is quoting the verses accurately! Don’t you know your own book? The verses he quoted are the very ones that are being used against him and may well cost him his life. If you had a fraction of the courage he has exhibited you would look into Islam with an open mind; but you won’t because your whole world would be turned upside-down. That includes your identity. Yes let US learn what the truth is. That includes YOU!

      • Matthieu Baudin says

        Dec 7, 2014 at 7:27 am

        Thankyou St. Croix for the thoughtful and compassionate response.
        I have carefully and methodically read the entire Koran. It’s a forceful and violent book that offers very little respite for the reader. We can learn a tremendous amount from the experiences of Apostates and they deserve our respect for sacrificing their security on our behalf.

  4. Salah says

    Dec 6, 2014 at 1:41 pm

    *THIS* is what I call the Only True and Everlasting Victory against jihad and its evil ideology.
    *THIS* is the direct result of Knowledge and Freedom of Speech.
    *THIS* is the direct result of the June 30, Egyptian Uprising.
    *THIS* is the New Egypt.
    *THIS* is the Beginning of the End of Islam.

    The fight is far from over; fellow freedom-fighters, let’s keep telling the Truth about Islam instead of criticizing each other.

    Thank you Robert for posting this clip.

    To my fellow Egyptians: The Perfect Man of Islam (arabic version)

    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/12/perfect-man-arabic.html

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