The mayor said “it’s pork or nothing” on the grounds that France is a secular republic that does not give religion a place in state institutions. Now this will be even more severely challenged than it has been in recent years. The challenge will proceed on the basis that this mayor is being hateful and “Islamophobic”: “Telling a small child that ‘you will eat less today because there’s pork on the menu’ is difficult to comprehend. You feel it is discrimination. You hear comments like, ‘if you don’t like it, take your children home’. It hurts.”
In today’s therapeutic nanny-state culture, we above all cannot have anything that “hurts.” Thus the French will set laicïté to avoid hurting Muslim feelings — or stand for it even as it becomes increasingly more difficult and dangerous to do so. I don’t know which one the French will ultimately choose, although I tend to think they will ultimately abandon laicïté and make special accommodations for Muslims. In any case, that is the choice they will certainly face.
“‘It’s Pork or Nothing’, ‘And if You Don’t Like it, Take Your Children Home’, Muslim Parents Told,” by Oliver Lane, Breitbart, December 11, 2014 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
Muslim parents have reacted angrily in a French town after the mayor announced it was ‘pork or nothing’ for school lunches, under the principles of the secular republic which dictates that religion should have no place in state institutions – including schools.
The change came after the catering company that provides meals to the 180 students in the small town of Sargé-lès-Le-Mans in southern France reported difficulties providing alternate meals for the 15 Muslim children on pork-based meal days. Declaring the local school free of religious influence, what in France is known as “laicïté”, or the “principle of Republican neutrality”, the mayor told parents it would from thereon be “pork or nothing”, TheLocal.fr reports.
The decision has upset Muslim parents in the town, who expect alternate meals for their children. One mother, who’s son Tariq told reporters “I need meat, it’s important” said: “Telling a small child that ‘you will eat less today because there’s pork on the menu’ is difficult to comprehend. You feel it is discrimination.
“You hear comments like, ‘if you don’t like it, take your children home’. It hurts”.
After banning the full-face covering burqa in public in 2010, the expense on Halal meals by the French taxpayer has become a significant matter of public discourse, with a number of politicians giving their opinions on the matter. Front National leader Marine Le Pen announced that towns run by the party’s mayors would no longer offer Halal meals.
She told French radio: “We will accept no religious requirements in the school lunch menus… There is no reason for religion to enter into the public sphere.”
This year a court in Lyon overturned a ruling that prisons had to serve Halal meals to inmates, claiming that failing to do so harmed a Muslim’s right to practice his religion in prison. The court found because there is a vegetarian alternative, an additional Halal meal was unnecessary….
somehistory says
One day without meat won’t harm any child. And if the shoe was on the other foot, non-muslim kids would be expected to eat *food sacrificed to the false god, satan” every day and complaining would be *hurting muslim feelings.*
Perhaps the beast is getting a taste of what it dishes out to everyone else.
particolor says
They could have asked what else is in the LARDer instead of carrying on like Pork Chops on High Heat !!
Brother Mark:) says
When I was a child, the Jews on a day that pork was served would be given an extra helping of vegetables and some extra salad or side dish. The Chinese vegetarian children would eat a lot of extra vegetables and salad or side dish. Nobody complained because there was no good reason to.
If all religious inclinations are catered to, then there will be a long list of special dietary concerns demanding special attention, instead of simple common sense.
Brother Mark:)
http://www.talktruthful.com
Brother Mark:) says
P.S. In case anyone is wondering, the reason why many of the Chinese children were vegetarians, was because they were Mahayana Pure Land Buddhists.
Fr. Basil` says
The fasts of the Orthodox and Eastern Catholics are rather austere by Western standards, but I don’t recall any school making provision for these children when I was growing up in the 50=60’s.
As far as food sacrificed to idols, when I bless halal foods (should I be served them) they turn into Orthodox Christian foods, and when I eat them they turn into Orthodox Christian me!
carepdiadem says
Why can’t they bring a meal from home on pork days?
Rebecca says
duh.
don’t think that occurred to them, b/c they expect to be catered to
Alissa says
Omg! How inconsiderate of you to suggest they bring a lunch from home! That would be asking them to blend in, cooperate with the culture, assimilate. How dare you even suggest that. Everyone else is suppose to roll over and cater to them. Now you’ve gone and “hurt their feelings”. A travesty.
Islam_Macht_Frei says
The point is to force the kuffr to bend to Islamic will. Solving their “problem” without imposing on the kuffr would defeat the purpose.
PRCS says
“Why can’t they bring a meal from home on pork days?”
Of their own volition, they could do that.
But, to actually offer that as a solution would probably violate anti-discrimination laws.
IMO, the mayor should stick to the facts: 1) France is a secular state, and 2) human beings do NOT need to eat meat at every lunchtime (which is the issue).
Ann Inquirer says
They have milk, and that is plenty of protein between breakfast and supper.
Jay Boo says
If this news gets back to Islamic countries France might no longer be able to attract Muslims by the thousands year after year to come and settle in France.
Charli Main says
Its not about pork. Its about forcing your religion and culture on others. The Jews don’t complain about pork in shops, restaurants or on school menus.
Why should Christian children be denied the pleasure of a pork sausage because Muslims are “upset”. If you don’t like French school menus XXXX off back to Islamistan.
Salah says
The mayor said “it’s pork or nothing”
According to Al Azhar University, Muslims are not allowed to eat pork, on the other hand, they’re allowed to eat…the mayor himself!!!
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2014/08/cannibalism-in-islam-taught-at-al-azhar.html
particolor says
Well that Wanker didn’t know what to say ??
I wonder what Lightly Grilled Mayor tastes like ??
Coolio says
The Lyon court ruling re prisoners is completely logical: Simply provide a vegetarian alternative. This is the norm in the UK, and I applaud it. Halal slughter is more barbaric than normal slaughter, but all animal slaughter in slaughterhouses is extremely cruel. Moslem dietry requirements can be fully met by providing vegetarian alternatives. Even meat-eaters do not want or need three meat meals a day!
ManchesterLad says
I think I should clarify “this is the norm in the UK” in case anyone gets the wrong impression.
A vegetarian option is the norm in the UK, almost anywhere you go, prisons, schools, hospitals etc. All fine.
Less fine, is that the UK dhimmis always provide a halal option too, or worse, the food is halal without being declared so. It appalls me that most UK school children are given only halal meat in school dinners and their parents do not even know or care. After all, “it’s so lovely and diverse isn’t it”!
The idea that a mayor – or anyone – could declare that Muslims should eat pork or get lost would send the UK establishment into meltdown of declarations of racism against our peace loving fellow citizens.
Well done to that mayor.
particolor says
HEAR ! HEAR !!
duh_swami says
“I need meat, it’s important”
No…You do not ‘need’ meat…You may ‘want’ it, but you do not ‘need’ it except psychologically. Where does Allah say that a Mahoundian ‘must’ eat meat?
Millions of people have, and do, live healthy lives as vegans and vegetarians.
School vegan lunches need not be boring, that’s the problem with Michelle O’s school lunch programs. No school should serve meat or any other hard to digest foods, because indigestion interferes with the learning process.
It’s hard to pay attention when your stomach is on fire.
particolor says
Your darn tootin ! I can hardly pay attention to this Blog with My belly full of Sweet and Sour Pork !!..
But don’t tell the Imam ??!!
duh_swami says
You’re not a child in school are you? Aluminum hydroxide gel was invented to help meat eaters with indigestion. Vegans rarely get indigestion.
quotha raven says
I’d like JW’s old friend, AlarmedPigFarmer, to weigh in about now…qr
Scott says
I have had a GUTFULL of muslims invaders. They make me beyond sick. BTW- apparently, they dont like “jews” either. Whoever thought bringing these vile people here and their evil cult with them – was a good idea – just wait. The pressure cooker is on the way.
particolor says
You can do a Very Nice Pigs Head in a Pressure Cooker !!
Natalia says
About 52 schools in Redbridge, London, do no provide either pork or beef to children but they do provide halal options. Apparently parents do not want their children to eat pork!
mho says
When I grew up in London the Jewish community provided kosher meals for the jewish children, where it wasn’t available the children took food from home. Let the muslims do the same.
particolor says
Your Joking ! They are Professional Bludgers !! From the Minute some Stupid Western Country Rescues them from their Sinking leaky tub they Own The Place
Mark says
The headline is wrong. It’s obviously not “pork our nothing” but “pork or a vegetarian alternative that is acceptable to Hindus, Muslims, Jews, and vegetarians”.
Having one universal replacement is fair to the kids and makes economic sense. Again or is not ” our kids will have nothing ” but “we want special accommodation”.
Ernie says
” France is a secular republic that does not give religion a place in state institutions “.= common sense ! I love this mayor , holding his/her ground . No more pampering of the immer complaining vast majority of muslims with their imagined ” special ” status . Marine LePen and Front National are attracting more and more voters in France largely because the population in general is so fed up with failed integration/islam and it’s parasitic nature . Yes ! There still is hope for France : Vive la France !
Phillipe says
When in France, do as the French do, eat anything, moving or not. How about some halal roadkill?
particolor says
What about some Halal Frogs Legs and Garlic Snails instead ??
particolor says
What about some Frogs Legs and Garlic Snails instead ??
gungadin says
Political Correctness in ALL its forms will be the ruination of all civilized countries unless the powers that be and the common man in those countries get their proverbial heads out of their butts; and stand up to the wussies and bleeding hearts
particolor says
I couldn’t have put it Better !!
josepxicot says
All these fanatics,needsome days with water and bread,I t could be a good lesson for them,in the cristians countries,pork is one of the most eated meal,I loved it.
Steffen Larsen says
I was looking at the effects on children of fasting during Ramadan, when I came upon a study by a hospital in Denmark: children born by women who are fasting during pregnancy weigh less, and in later life show a tendency towards Diabetes 2 and heart diseases.
http://politiken.dk/forbrugogliv/sundhedogmotion/ECE2339719/gravides-ramadan-faste-gaar-ud-over-boernene/
Angemon says
Fight islamic law with islamic law: islamic law says that necessity cancels obligation. Pork being the only thing in the menu doesn’t conflict with their so-called religion in any way. Especially when they have the chance of simply not eating it. Kudos to the mayor for sticking to his country’s principles.
clifford hall says
No burka…no halal…huge marches in Germany….is this the beginning of the counter-attack?
particolor says
I certainly hope so !!
Is this the 21st Century ? Or some Imaginary time in past ?.
What a WEAK World to even put up with Murdering Cult of Brain Dead Idiots !!
Hugh Jardohn says
Their objection must be symbolic as surely they must know that processing and cooking forces “pork” molecules into the all for all to breath to some extent. They need to be told to calm down.
Rajivi says
“The court found because there is a vegetarian alternative, an additional Halal meal was unnecessary….” This a good decision of the Court and should be followed all over France
Nancy says
This is what happens when Countries allow the Muslims to take over their culture. Then you have to backtrack and fight for the culture you began with. If you can say “No” in the beginning, or make it so that they cannot take over, then you have saved it. Liberal political correctness keeps this from happening. We can see it in our own Country. Very sad thing.
particolor says
That’s Right !! Take Japans Example NO MUSSOS !! They weren’t Hoodwinked Right from the Start !!.
And don’t have the Insane Problems we have !!
Bridget Ames says
Well if they choose to interpret it in those many ways then that is their choice. Why should the state have to provide them their specialty meals. If students have allergies or any other dietary requirements they need to just bring their own from home, That is an option, I don’t eat meat on Fridays and I always have to make arrangements to follow it. I can not claim religious discrimination.
Kim Bruce says
This will go over like lead balloons. What about the Jewish population?
Ann Inquirer says
If it is too much for the school cooks, then Hard Darts, not to mention the extra money the taxpayers need to ante up. Besides there is enough protein in milk to last between breakfast and supper.
joeblough says
This could be evidence of intelligent life in France.
Jae M says
Why don’t they just bring home lunches on those days? Why such a big deal over this? Next it will be no pork should be served as it is offensive to view people eating it.
Kash says
I’d like to suggest ham as an alternative. Or bacon.
SpiritOf1683 says
I’d like to suggest deportation back to their North African slum as an alternative.
Raymond Hietapakka says
No welfare cheques for them to collect back home.
Tomm says
The parents can pack a lunch for their children on days they do not want them to eat what is on the menu, further there is a vegetarian alternative as well.
apran says
Muslims never feel discrimination or hurt when the non muslims are told to accept Islam or die
pdxnag says
What of the culpability of the “Muslim” parents for prohibiting their kids from eating pork? What sort of punishment would the kids face at home if they ignored Islam and their radicalizing parents for just one day?
Champ says
♫♪ ♫♪ I’m in the mood for loooove! ..I mean *bacon*! ♫♪ ♫♪
…remember that song? lol! 🙂
Yeah and next to pork chops and bacon *FREEDOM* ranks #1 on a mohammedans list of no-no’s …wow what a sick and twisted death cult, it even kills freedom and the fun of eating bacon–but not for me!
Rob Porter says
Well, gee, isn’t it just tough luck for small Muslim children! Constantly we read about non-Muslim children – even adult company employees in the U.K. – being denied eating Pork or bacon, even punished for doing so and ‘eating less today’ – but evidently to Muslim mutts that is okay. However when Muslims are told that they must ‘eat less today’ then its “difficult to comprehend. You feel it is discrimination”, but to them it isn’t “discrimination” and “difficult to comprehend” when non-Muslims are denied what they like and then, apparently, it does not ‘hurt’. Logic is not a strong part of Muslim thinking.
In fact I applaud these French who stand their ground. As to it becoming “dangerous to do so”, that in itself says volumes about the violent, uncivilized Muslim mindset. I have a notion that Margaret Thatcher, just as she did with Scargill’s miners, would make it dangerous for Muslims to resort to violence. That’s the way it should be, but in the West today we have few if any who will hold to that principle.
Angemon says
Oh, they “expect” alternate meals for their children? Why? Where does it say that non-muslims are responsible for enforcing islamic dietary restrictions?
That’s nothing like discrimination. According to Merriam-Webster, “discrimination” means:
“the practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people”
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discrimination
Muslim kids are being given the same choice as anyone else. How is that “treating them differently in a unfair way”?
Good. Unless islam states that non-muslims are supposed to give muslims alternatives then muslims can practice their religion by simply not eating pork.
particolor says
The Warning is there ! Thou Shalt Not Worship A False Idol !!..
Like it or Lump it GO HOME Satan !!
tesa says
viva la france,and thats from a anglo australian
Jus Wundrin says
Yes muslima, take your children home….all the way back to that islamic hell hole you came from.
Barbc says
In the public school we have put a picture of the meat; chicken, pig, beef, fish. The child is free to pick which main course they want.
So far this school district has not stopped serving pork. But I will not be surprised if we do stop.
How about the cafe in the east that had to take down a sign about serving bacon. REALLY a sign with a word is offensive! Thinned skin bullies!
I wish the schools in the US would do what France is doing.
andrew sapia says
about freakin time, good for you, ever heard of a brown bag. This is how it has to be. Otherwise, they will insist that all non-Muslims eat Halal, but that is not discrimination. Listen you moved to a European country with a secular government. If it is a little more difficult to practice your religion than so be it. Make the sacrifice, that’s what committed believers do. You never hear Jews (who also despise pork) complain. Yet in Belgium you eat a ham sandwich in front of a Muslim and there’s a riot, enough catering to these Islamic supremacists, enough.
Barbc says
I will tell you what torques me off! The school district does serve fish about twice a month, but never on Friday.
During Lent all of the Catholic and Orthodox religious preferences are ignored.
The Jewish kids never say anything about non Koscher foods.
But the Muslims get the VIP. Talk about discrimination.
andrew sapia says
How is it that orthodox Jews have lived in France for centuries without this being an issue?
abad says
Muslims don’t belong in France anyways. Muslims hate France so much then WHY are they there???
quotha raven says
They are THERE, Dufus, because they want to DOMINATE and OWN France, declare it part of their global caliphate, implement tax on the kufir, burn Christian churches, bomb synagogues, install sharia law, control the money and the people. Same reason they are anywhere in the world. Hello? Anybody in there? Get with the bloody program!
SpiritOf1683 says
Not only France but the whole of the West. They want our countries to be like Syria or Pakistan 100 years from now.
quotha raven says
And, judging by their astounding success in infiltrating and terrifying, we (here in the USA and across the pond in the UK) will be. Exactly like Syria or Pakistan. At the rate we are going, and the suicidal activities (against the people’s wishes) actively pursued by ALL western governments, we might just get there sooner. I, for one, am getting myself fitted out for a burkha, just to be at the forefront, style-wise. Can’t decide whether to get one of those that has breathing holes but otherwise covers the whole face, or just wear more eye make-up and wear those ones that leave eyes uncovered…(sarc off)
andy says
They are there to destroy France from the inside.
Tom W Harris says
Hey Muzzies, eat chit.
A rude dietary suggestion perhaps, but justified under the circumstances.
Vostro says
Maybe they could be introduced to a new concept called “brownbagging it” on said “pork days!”
Tommy says
Moslems have done what many of the worlds megalomaniacs have tried to do, ie. take over the world!
Hiltler and his ilk would be proud of them, cowardly governments the world over bend over backwards in order to appease any ‘moslem threat’ to their comfortable life.
Goodness! moslems get better treated than the poorest in UK society. Our so-called British government is robbing the poor and needy in the name of ‘austerity’ when in fact it’s recouping the cash it had to use to bail out the BANKSTERS.On top of this, they hand out cash to anyone other than those who really need it. Stop all the foriegn aid to ALL moslem states and those who sympathise with them,
I’m really sick of hearing of ‘islamaphobia or homophobia’ how about the moslem practice of taxing any non-moslems who are unfortunate to live in their states, should not
our so-called western civilization do lkewise to non believers?
‘Government by the people for the people’ my sainted arse.
jay says
No wonder Muslims are stuck in childish entitlement and prone to irrational tantrums no matter where they fester, the children are born to parents that haven’t mentally matured beyond age 5.
CogitoErgoSum says
Aren’t children allowed to take their lunches to school anymore? When I was a kid our school menu was published in the newspaper a week in advance. It could be posted on the internet these days. I remember if I didn’t like what was on the menu for a particular day I would ask my mother to fix my lunch for me that day and I would take it with me in a brown paper bag … later on I got a metal lunch box with the picture of a really cool rocket ship on it and it also had a small thermos so I could take some chocolate milk. My favorite lunch to take was a fried egg sandwich, some potato chips and a Twinkie. Why can’t these Muslim children in France do the same as I did and take their own lunch on the days when the menu is not to their liking? This is a case of making a mountain out of a mole hill.
quotha raven says
Aren’t children allowed to take their lunches to school anymore?
Interesting question, Cogito. In fact I know for certain of numerous cases in pubic schools in NYS where teachers (or lunchroom attendants have TAKEN AWAY children’s lunches made by moms, because they didn’t conform to federal lunch standards set by the unelected bizzybody Michelle Obama. I can assure you that the lunch you describe as your favorite would CERTAINLY not pass muster. The government-sponsored lunch programs in the USA are all about control. Control and spending moe money. When I went to school, everybody brought their lunches in lunch boxes. No one had a govt-regulated lunch, and no one had a hot lunch. Most of us had peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, other people’s allergies notwithstanding. And no one was made unhealthy by this practice across the country.
quotha raven says
Oh, dear! I really didn’t mean “pubic schools”:0, but “public schools” Sticky keys on some letters here…
Barbc says
LOL having worked in the school lunch room there are times I’m not sure there is a lot of difference!?
Champ says
LOL!! 😀
CogitoErgoSum says
I was in grade school in the late 1950’s to mid-1960’s. I am now in my early to mid-60’s. It doesn’t appear that my lunches from home had any ill effects on me. I suppose my egg sandwich, chips, Twinkie and chocolate milk would not pass muster today but I never went through an afternoon feeling hungry and I didn’t waste any food. I didn’t bring the same lunch every day and, actually, most of the time I did eat the food from the cafeteria because usually it was pretty good. Also, my mother watched out for me and taught me good sense. I know life isn’t fair and not everyone is so lucky as to have parents as good as mine were but when a government goes so far as to control the type of food I eat, then I’d say it’s time for a new government. Maybe Michelle Obama should worry more about the mothers and fathers and leave the kids alone. Anyway, I’m glad the French are holding their ground in this case. Here’s to good health and the freedom to enjoy it. Cheers.
quotha raven says
Cogito – I was in primary school in the early fifties in a small town in the Midwest. No meals were provided in the lunchroom. Now, in big cities and small across the USA, there are breakfasts, lunches and dinners provided. I agree with you that twinkies and potato chips and chocolate milk and a fried egg sandwich is just fine for lunch. Totally family business and Michelle should just butt out. A friend of mine in Copake, NY, had her kid’s lunch TAKEN AWAY because it had a twinkie or something in there. Her kids are like toothpicks and need some good carbs and sugar to carry them through an afternoon followed by sports. Again, to Michelle, I say: Jump back, Loretta!))))) Cheers, an hope the French keep chipping away at the infiltration of Islam into their infrastructure. We in the USA could learn something: One can say “Non!”
Barbc says
Sounds like my lunch. We had only one choice, not the three choices the kids get now. And they still complain about it!
Sooz22 says
Oh my! When I was a kid, we couldn’t afford to purchase our lunch in the school cafeteria. We brought cheese sandwiches and were thrilled when we could purchase our meals, once a week if we were lucky. It must be nice to be able to eat in the “caf” every day. Wealthy muslims? I think not. They’re on welfare and get their meals free! Must be nice. We can’t afford to feed our own, but the muzzies are sucking our system dry. Feed your kids at home, bring a sack lunch or eat what’s on the menu!!
Barbc says
Having worked in the school kitchens, it is worse than you realize. A lot of the free or reduced kids don’t even eat the food. They don’t like it, they might take two bites and throw the rest away. They don’t like, they don’t eat! I asked a 6th grader why he took a meal if he didn’t want it, “I have to”! ! !
The brown baggers take milk with out paying for it. They don’t think they should have to pay!?!?!?! They don’t want to wait in line to pay.
Why the schools don’t have home lunch kids in line first and pay and go !?!?!?!
Kayde says
Public Schools in the US have NEVER provided Kosher Meals for kids—and the Jewish Parents didn’t even TRY to make them. WHY ?? If you want your child to stick to Religious Dietary laws (or to disrupt class to “pray” several times a day–get over yourself !! — you either PACK THEIR LUNCH AT HOME…. or shell out the bucks—and send them to a religious secular school. That Simple !! I “brown bagged” lunch at least 2 days each week while in school— I lived !! And not ONCE did my Parents complain—or demand Kosher Food.
Hint to the “Halal Demandées” — Learn to bend with the breeze… lest ye break” !! No one LIKES your DEMANDING Special “anything”. Hence, they don’t like YOU !! Learn to assimilate, learn to be HUMBLE. Learn to show GRATITUDE, rather than act Entitled. Don’t come to CHANGE Things. If it was so great before—- GO BACK !!
And to France—– WTG !!! Bon Travail!!!
ebonystone says
If Tariq feels he has to have meat, he can ask Mama to pack him a lunch of a couple of pieces of cold chicken, or a slice of cold meat-loaf on pork days.
andy says
Muslims are all the same: always demanding! They never think how the way to adopt the values of the country where they live. If the school is provide haram food then pack your kids with halal food from yr goddamed house, stupid!
Tradewinds says
“This year a court in Lyon overturned a ruling that prisons had to serve Halal meals to inmates, claiming that failing to do so harmed a Muslim’s right to practice his religion in prison.”
Islam is not a religion. Islam is a mass-murder political ideology posing as a religion.