German authorities and the international media are making an utterly predictable but nonetheless inexcusable mistake by deriding these protesters as “far-right” and “pinstripe Nazis.” Nazis targeted people — the Jews — who were completely innocent of the charges made against them. Then the Nazis committed genocide. The Patriotic Europeans Against Islamisation of the West is reacting against increasingly frequent and aggressive jihad attacks — just look at the last few days in France — and repeated declarations by Muslim leaders that they will soon conquer Europe. Patriotic Europeans Against Islamisation of the West is not in favor of genocide, but against immigration policies that threaten to overwhelm the native population and lead to the imposition of a political and social system that will destroy the freedom of speech and equality of rights for women and non-Muslims.
These are genuine concerns, and they’re held by decent people who believe in free societies that uphold the equality of rights of all people before the law. To dismiss and deride these people and lump them in with Nazis will not make their concerns go away. It will only make it all the harder to avoid civil strife and conflict in the streets. By similarly demonizing and marginalizing the opposition to Islamization, the British have already opted for the path that will almost certainly lead to chaos and civil war — for as Islamic supremacists grow increasingly violent, aggressive and demanding, as they are certain to do, and ordinary Britons find no acceptable outlet for their views in the political process and the public debate, the bloodletting will be massive. Now it appears that Germany is making the same mistake.
To avoid this seemingly inevitable conflict, Britain and Germany must allow a reasoned public discussion of Islamization. Neither seems disposed in any way to do so.
“Record 17,000 join ‘Pinstripe Nazi’ anti-Islam march in Germany,” Agence France-Presse, December 23, 2014:
A record 17,000 people have joined the latest in a string of demonstrations against Islam in Dresden, eastern Germany, celebrating the rise of their far-right populist movement by singing Christmas carols.
The march on Monday night was organised by Patriotic Europeans Against Islamisation of the West – a group that has grown rapidly since its first protest in October.
Politicians from all major parties have been stunned by the emergence of the right-wing nationalists who vent their anger against what they consider a broken immigration and asylum system.
About 4,500 counter-demonstrators marched through the city under the slogan “Dresden Nazi-free”, warning that there was no space for racism and xenophobia in the country that perpetrated the Holocaust.
Most Pegida followers insist they are not Nazis but patriots who worry about the “watering down” of their Christian-rooted culture and traditions. They often accuse mainstream political parties of betraying them and the media of lying.
Braving cold and wet weather, they gathered outside the historic Semperoper concert hall for their pre-Christmas recital. Police put their numbers at about 17,500, up from the previous high of 15,000 a week earlier.
The management of the opera house signalled its distaste by turning the building’s lights off and flying flags outside that read: “Open your eyes”, “Open your hearts”, “Open doors” and “Human dignity is sacrosanct”, the first line of the national constitution.
The Protestant bishop of Saxony state, Jochen Bohl, said the Pegida followers, by singing Christmas carols, were seeking “to exploit a Christian symbol and a Christian tradition” for political purposes, German news agency DPA reported.
Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, of the centre-left Social Democrats, called for concerned citizens to launch a “rebellion of the decent” against the anti-foreigner movement, saying “that’s the kind of public reaction we need now”.
Pegida, born in a city that was part of communist East Germany until the fall of the Berlin Wall 25 years ago, has spawned copycat groups in western areas which have failed so far to attract similar crowds.
Smaller clone groups rallied Monday in the western cities of Bonn, Kassel and Wuerzburg, but they only drew up to 200 followers each and were all vastly outnumbered by counter-demonstrations that drew 20,000 nationwide.
Police reported no major violence but said eight people were temporarily detained after confrontations in Kassel, reported German news agency DPA.
The biggest anti-Pegida march was held in the southern city of Munich, where at least 12,000 rallied under the banner “Make space – Refugees are welcome”.
“We have space for people of different skin colour, ethnic origin and mother tongue,” city mayor Dieter Reiter told the crowd.
“We have space for all religions and believers: for those who go to the mosque on Fridays, who go to the synagogue on Saturdays, or to church on Sundays, but also for those who prefer to just stay home.”…
Chancellor Angela Merkel has cautioned Germans against falling prey to any form of xenophobic “rabble-rousing”, while other lawmakers have deplored the new “pin-striped Nazis”.
Jovial Joe says
Is Muslim immigration or the demographic already present in the West going to decline? No. Will Islam suddenly desist from its 1400 years of aggressive and expansive supremacism? No. Will social unrest and strife increase in the West as a result? Of course, as sure as night follows day and it’s a long night we’re all about to enter.
terry says
In this present system of things and given the current circumstances, I completely agree with your predictions.
The more western governments and leaders wait before taking any affirmative counter action, the bloodier and more horrible the results will be.
terry says
Robert Spencer,
“These are genuine concerns, and they’re held by decent people who believe in free societies that uphold the equality of rights of all people before the law. To dismiss and deride these people and lump them in with Nazis will not make their concerns go away. It will only make it all the harder to avoid civil strife and conflict in the streets. By similarly demonizing and marginalizing the opposition to Islamization, the British have already opted for the path that will almost certainly lead to chaos and civil war — for as Islamic supremacists grow increasingly violent, aggressive and demanding, as they are certain to do, and ordinary Britons find no acceptable outlet for their views in the political process and the public debate, the bloodletting will be massive. Now it appears that Germany is making the same mistake.”
These days, the essence of the above paragraph comes to my mind whenever I think of Jihad, Islam and current events in the west, including the stupid, naive, idiotic, uneducated, suicidal, deceiving and disappointing response, given by western governments and leaders, to the most major threat to humanity!!
The paragraph was really accurate, its ideas were well articulated and above all, prophetic!
pongidae rex says
The western leadership of 2014 and their insane immigration policies are leading the West into another cataclysm no less horrific than the one the leaders of 1914 led their nations into with their insane interlocking defense treaties. At least after WWI, Europe was stilll European. After the coming debacle, Europe will no longer exist. And that is the whole idea. That is the crux of it. It is suicide on a national scale.
Tradewinds says
Letting Islam into the West is the dumbest thing the West has ever done.
Joe says
No, its continuing to let Muslims into the west that is creating a now near civil war situation in some parts. The great mass of effette Eurosnots are not up to admitting to themselves what its in their faces right now. Very soon it will be all over them. A situation created by corrupt politicians and multi-culturism that has the population PC whipped and leaderless. Either way we are in a fight that will get bloodier before we really see what we are up against. I hope and pray Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have left the White House and our security services before the tickets go on sale.
Don McKellar says
“…celebrating the rise of their far-right populist movement by singing Christmas carols.”
Indeed! Singing about peace on earth and goodwill to all men — that’s just like the nazis! Er, now wait a minute, what do moslems chant when they march? OH YEAH — moslems chant “death to the jews” “we will take over the world” and stuff like that, straight out of what’s written in Mein Koran. Gee, I guess the moslems are the ones just like the nazis and the Patriotic Europeans Against Islamisation of the West is directly the opposite of nazis. You’d never know it by reading MSM and listening to the lying politicians.
cs says
The say also:
WE DON’T WANT FREEDOM, WE WANT SHARIA.
I love to show this one to my leftist friends.
Richie says
The left always tries (and often succeeds) in framing the narrative, by painting Jihadists as victims. The true fascists are on the left- They are the ones who would like to see these protestors killed. Given the Muslims are the ones who often call for the mass murder of all Jews (as did the Nazis), shouldn’t Muslims be the ones labled Nazis?
moses says
Atleast the Germans have the balls to protest against Islam
larry says
.If the leaders of the western world would just admit the truth. Expose Islam for what it is. The Muslims would calm down or get out. They would have no choice
Steffen Larsen says
There has been some surprise that the former GDR parts of Germany are in the forefront of this, there being few Muslims compared to the rest of the nation.
The article shows us the reason for this: in the West any opposition to Islam and immigration is already organized and immediately shouted down, and protesters have given up. In the East this lesson still had to be learnt.
jewdog says
I’ve always appreciated my colleagues from eastern Europe who have an greater appreciation of freedom after having been under Soviet domination. These demonstrators clearly understand that Islam poses a similar threat to their freedom. Good luck to them.
Angemon says
Of course, the classic Christmas carols and far-right connection! Remember pre-WWII Germany, when nazis routinely marched at the sound of Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht and Still, Still, Still? Remember how O Tannenbaum was their unofficial anthem?
Well, that’s not what they were protesting against, so Mr. Reiter lost a good chance to keep his pie-hole shut.
vlparker says
We have to stop letting the left define the terms used in debate. The Nazis were not far right, they were far left. The Nazis were the National SOCIALIST Party. They believed in total government control of the people. They enacted socialized medicine, control of the press and gun control. That is left wing.
Extreme right wing is anarchy, no government at all. The people marching against islamization are neither extreme left or extreme right. They are pro freedom.
Thanks once again, Robert, for all you do in the fight for freedom.
Angry says
Too true. Take the socialist left-wingers, the ones who favour palestine over Israel, who protest in support of nazi saluting palestinians and portray hate towards Israel and Jewish supporters of the state of Israel (anti-zionist = anti-Jew).
The socialist left and the nazis are just 2 faces of the same coin, and yet they dare to call their righteous opposition ‘waycists’ and ‘fascists’ for highlighting the obvious threat; and speaking the actual truth.
If the radical left organisation UAF here in Britain truly oppose racism, bigotry and fascism, then they should be looking at their islamic sidekicks, who are culturally and religiously bigoted towards non-muslims and see/treat non-muslim women as whores; and are ALLOWED to show it and voice it.
It’s not just the islamics who are the ‘enemy within’, it’s the socialist left too.
The socialist left protested outside the BBC recently, screaming ‘BIASED’ because of the BBC News reports that saw Israel as the victim of hamas attacks and Israel’s response to hamas, but many were caught shouting derogatory abuse at the head of news programming James Harding, and demanding that he be sacked, well they would, James Harding is Jewish.
bicky says
i hope it happens all over the kuffar world.All kuffars must march against the islamisation of their nations
Islam_Macht_Frei says
So the speaker praises the “Judeo-Christian” tradition, issues a call to live **with** each other rather than “next to” each other, and that gets him called a “Nazi?” I guess words mean whatever some people want them to mean,,,or rather nothing at all..
MKG says
I am just a simple guy living in a complex world. My observation on these events are just as simple. In this world every man, woman and child needs a place to stand, and where we stand we want to be in charge. We want control of resources. We want to attract a mate and produce offspring. We want our values to be the norm. We want our virtues to be the law. The muslims are no different from the rest of us in that respect. The big difference is in the values and methods, and this is the heart of the conflict. When it comes to immigration all can agree that showing hospitality is a virtue. Yet all can also agree that guests are required to show hospitality by being a good guest. I figure it is hard to be a good guest when one wants to be the host, that is when one wants to be in charge. At that point, it is up to the host to expel bad guests. If the government will not take care of it’s own children, the children will rebel. It would seem the Germans have done so. God be with them.
Lenin-McCarthy says
RT News is guilty.
cs says
RT is like press TV, they are only do destabilize, surely they do not tackle the problem of Islam inside their own country like that.
Lenin-McCarthy says
Islamist in Germany and other western nations they occupy are the new nazis. Something western media outlets like BBC, RT News, CNN and CBC will not tell you.
Sam says
We should start our protests against Islam here in the USA pronto also. Let liberals call us facist, Islamophobe, woman hater, etc. it does not matter as we are at the verge of loosing our freedom anyhow with these “progressive” idiots everywhere.
celticwarriorcanada says
My Dad was a decorated WW2 vet , who was all over Europe during the war;even helped to clear concentration camps at the end . My mother was British born , her and her family survived the Nazi bomb attacks . Germans were never a very popular people in my family .However at this time in history I cannot think of a people I MORE GREATLY ADMIRE ,than the thousands of GERMAN PROTESTERS , WHO ARE STANDING UP TO THE ISLAMIFICATION OF THEIR COUNTRY . THEY ARE AN EXAMPLE TO ALL FREEDOM LOVING WESTERN NATIONS WHO OUGHT TO BE DOING THE SAME .
dumbledoresarmy says
It may be that there are those in Germany – perhaps even enough – who have found their souls, or have had their souls restored to them.
It may be that a curse has been broken.
Remember *this* story?
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/February/German-Woman-Publicly-Rebuking-Islam-Goes-Viral-/
‘Brave German Woman’ Rebukes Islam’s Lie
Friday, February 14, 2014
Excerpts:
“– Islam continues to grow in power and influence across Europe.
“But at a recent concert in Germany, one Christian woman decided to stand up to it.
“The Armed Man: A Mass for Peace” by Welsh composer Karl Jenkins was supposed to be an interfaith event to bring Christianity and Islam together.
“But when the Muslim imam began his call to prayer during the concert, he was interrupted by a small woman in the balcony proclaiming that “Jesus Christ alone is Lord of Germany,” and shouting, “I break this curse.”
“She also invoked the name of Martin Luther and warned the audience that what was happening was “a lie.”
The video went viral…”.
More:
“Then the Muslim call to prayer began, and Heidi said she felt something rising up inside her.
A Holy Anger
“I would call it a holy anger,” she recounted. “And then I rose with my flag and I was calling and proclaiming that Jesus Christ is Lord over Germany.”
“My purpose was, I broke this curse because [Muslims] say, ‘Only Allah is the Lord. He is God, the only God.’ And I broke this curse in this church and I broke it over my country,” she continued.
‘And she repeated the words of Martin Luther in 1521 after he refused to recant his faith in scripture alone: “Here I stand. I can do no other” and “Save the church of Martin Luther!”
‘Video shows another concert-goer trying to calm her by saying, “This is a concert for peace.”
‘Mund can be heard responding in German, “No it’s not! Allahu Akbar is what Muslims scream while murdering people! Don’t be fooled! Don’t be fooled! This is a lie!”
And still more:
‘With Mund at the concert was Kamel, who did not give his full name for safety reasons.
‘Before coming to Germany he lived in the Muslim world. [Given his name, he might well be a Copt – dda]
‘Kamel told CBN News that an imam has no place in a church.
“Islam is one of the reasons for persecution, Muslims have persecuted me. They don´t want me to tell others that Jesus Christ is my Savior.”
‘Also with Mund was Marion, who has also asked that her last name not be included.
‘**She belongs to a group calling itself the White Rose, which took the same name as the World War II anti-Nazi resistance group shown in the film “Sophie Scholl: the Final Days.”** {my emphasis – dda].
“Islam is inhuman, the same as in the Nazi time. For me, personally, there is no difference. We want to show Germany and the world that we will not bow down to the slow Islamization of our country,” Marion said…”.
Jay Boo says
Chancellor ‘murky’ Merkel said,
“Germany has no place for propaganda and SLANDER.” (of Islam)
President Obama said,
“The future must not belong to those who SLANDER the prophet of Islam.”
Jay Boo says
Can we trust Islam appeasing, Jew hating, leftist German politicians?
1961 — Muslim Turks are allowed to work in Germany but politicians promise it is only on a two year rotation, and then they must return to Turkey.
1964 — Law changed and Muslims are allowed to stay in Germany permanently.
3 million Turkish immigrants living in Germany
1972 — PLO attack Munich Olympics (with help from Neo-Nazis .)
———– Just one month later Islam appeasing German politicians conveniently find an excuse to release the three surviving murderers of the Jewish athletes.
1994 — Their leader PLO terrorist Yasser Arafat receives the Nobel Peace Prize
Kepha says
To PEGIDA: Ein frohliche Weinacht von die Vereneigte Staten von Amerika!
I hope you guys sang “Vom Himmel Hoch” and “Es ist ein Ros’ entsrpungen”.
To all at Jihad Watch, even though Uncle Kepha doesn’t really make that much of a to-do about liturgical holidays:
Merry Christmas!
Frohliche Weinacht!
Feliz Navidad!
Sheng Dan Kuale! (圣诞快乐)
Joyeux Noel!
Chag Shimeach!
Sanuk Wan Kritimat! Khaw PraChao song uay phraphorn!
pumbar says
Merry Christmas Kepha!
gravenimage says
A Merry Christmas to you, Kepha!
dumbledoresarmy says
Merry Christmas to you, too, Uncle Kepha.
Angemon says
Merry Christmas to you too Kepha 🙂
Oliver says
A question on the “counter demonstrators”, especially in the cities where they numbered in the 20,000 range.
Any clue how many were Muslims?
Angry says
It doesn’t matter, the “counter demonstrators” of the radical left variety are the muslims of the future anyway; due to their appeasing, apologist nature towards the religiously and culturally bigoted ones. Leftists tend to be the ones who convert to jihad, due to their own hatred at the world when things don’t go their way, or knowing their sociaIist utopia dream is decaying by the day.. I’ve lost count of the number of converts to jihad who have resorted to terrorism in the past year; in Britain alone!
TH says
It seems to me that in the not too distant future the ordinary folk with common sense in France, Germany and Britain will be the majority of voters and will give these dhimmi politicians the boot. The movement is likely to begin in France and usually what begins in France spreakds to the rest of Europe.
gravenimage says
Germany: 17,500 march against Islamization, sing Christmas carols; lawmakers and media smear them as “pinstripe Nazis”
………………………….
A Fröhliche Weihnachten to all these brave Germans, braving not just the raw weather but the calumny of appeasing dhimmi tools and other useful idiots.
Here’s the lovely German-language “Stille Nacht” (“Silent Night” in English translation):”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLsFrHLzHIg
And here’s a children’s choir singing “O Tannenbaum” (“Oh Christmas Tree” in English translation):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27JleM39TPY
Enjoy, and Merry Christmas!
Kiwikaffir says
If we islamophobes are to make any headway to win back the west we will need to win over the minds and hearts of the middle classes first! There is a groundswell but nowhere near enough.
clifford hall says
Joss and MKG
Thank you. Your posts admirably identify the dilemma.
clifford hall says
After writing the above I googled Pegida on Wikipedia. It’s ‘manifesto’ is outlined. I see nothing in that to justify the label ‘pin-stripe nazis’. Similar names have been used against UKIP, essentially a middle class rooted party. But what is wonderful is the fact of marching and the numbers. I’ve asked here and elsewhere “What can WE do?” Well, Robert, help us.
josepxicot says
Germans wake up !!! it is for not only for the counry,it is our european civilization,go ahead,a lot of people
who don´t lost their national and european feelings are with the german people.
Jack checker says
PEGIDA are right wingers, Nazis and haters, and that I’m saying who is absolutely critic about Islam and muslims, but I’m also a foreigner here. First all muslims, doesn’t matter if radicals or not, then jews and after them foreigners. Please tak a a look that where PEGIDA started are almost no muslims or foreigners. so no, this article is absolutely wrong and PEGIDA is a big pile of shit
Shane says
I will take any allies that I can get in the World War of Islamic Jihad against all non-Muslims. Islam must be defeated and Muslims removed from Western nations. Islam is a plague on the world and every non-Muslim must fight it.
Western Canadian says
Seems we have an unwanted Christmas gift…. Another muzzy troll spreading ill-will and ignorance for all.
Sel says
You are the on who seems to be ignorant and uninformed about the history of islam, and how where ever they go, that place end up being islamized, what make you think it’s gonna be different with Canda, Germany and the rest??? tell me one good reason why should we accept such an hideous ideology in our western society?? why???, for what???, so that declare jihad on us when they get to be 40% or 50% of population like they did in Lebanon?? (and many others) Btw, they already been people killed in the name of allah in Canada, U.S.A. and all Europe, besides, ofcourse India, Africa, Thailand, China and all the middle east. What does it takes to buttheads like you to open their eyes??
sheik yermami says
Me thinks “jack checker” is a big pile of shit….
Jack checker says
Funny that soemone mentioned Loche, Rousseau and others. They all had to fight the catholic church. The western, democratic society we are living in happened against the christian churches not with or threw them. Maybe we should start to stop have contracts and embassies at and with the vatican, germany should stop paying the catholic church each year 500 million Euros and it shiuld started to investigate the Nazi support of both christian churches In germany and rome. little hint, red cross support and passports for Nazis from all Europe to Australia (Croatians), South America (mostly all europe), USA (Germans). Haters are welcome
Myxlplik says
It’s not “Loche” it’s Locke, Pumbar corrected my spelling error earlier.
Anyways, you totally missed the point, which was that we have already come through religious wars and have achieved liberal western democracies and secularism through western philosophy. Today we teach relativism in all things, even culture.
I don’t see how your post was relevant to the topic… Which is there is something special about western society, which was gained through philosophy. These philosophers did not flinch when it came to criticizing religious tyranny, nor should we, in regards to Islam.
Western Canadian says
It would appear that ‘jack checker’ is another muzzy, trolling through this site and dropping his ignorant rants everywhere…..
Basis for suggesting he is a muzzy?? His clumsey use or mis-use of English. It is obvious he is NOT at home with the language, in a manner common to muzzy trolls. Add in his repeating ignorant and hate filled smears only offered by nazis and their muzzy sweethearts.
Just another muzzy troll……
celticwarriorcanada says
Hay Jack: Did you know that John Locke’s ideas of Liberty and Freedom were not original ? The same ideas concerning Liberty,Private Property and even The Right To Bear Arms .Were found in the Constitution drafted by the Scottish Covenanters who were Locke’s Forefathers .They were influenced by the Scottish Protestant Reformer John Knox ; Who was influenced by The Swiss Continental Protestant Reformers . Locke who had a more positive view of humanity than his parents and forefathers ,put a more secular spin on their views of Liberty and Freedom . He was hardly an enemy of his Christian Heritage . Not to mention the First colonists and signers of the Declaration Of Independence ,some of whom were Presbyterian and Congregational Christians . To not see the influence of Western European Protestant Christian thought on Western Democratic Nation is Either Turning A Blind Eye Or An Ignorance Of History . As for Jean Jacque Rousseau he was nothing less than an Irresponsible Anarchist who sent his children of to an orphanage so he could pursue his delusive dreams of freedom .Hardly an example of Freedom and Liberty .
Myxlplik says
Europeans have a lot to fight & be proud of. Centuries of thought, culture, philosophy and enlightenment unique in all of human history are threatened by several decades of PC cultural relativism & medieval Islamic barbarians.
The freedom we have today is the gift of European thought and culture….
jj says
so, what you are saying is, in the past, others have done the wrong thing, so now we should not criticize ,the great white sharks , doing circles around us right now , welcome them in and trust them, because not all sharks are bad, and other breeds of shark in the past have also killed people.
Shane says
The left wing media and most liberal politicians defame anyone who dares to say that Islam is incompatible with Western values. I don’t blame the Germans for wanting to stop all Muslim immigration so that they can maintain their culture.
Nicu says
Exactly — even if they attack you or even worse the police says it’s better not to accuse them cos we will lose in trial anyway – and it’s a fact ! They get ” Migrant – Bonus ” always !
Eric says
The Nazis were in bed with the Muslims, therefore those against Islamization cannot be Nazis.
Bukkdem Jizheads says
An excellent point!
Hitler repressed religion and these people are singing Christmas carols! Since Muslims reject science, natural laws and human rights… because Allah could capriciously alter them, Islamic culture is brutish and ignorant.
I would bet this “Jack checker” is just another useless drone, a victim of polygamy who will never get a wife or have any children, with nothing better to do than be a troll. Unless of course if he can behead some guy and enslave his wife.
Nicu says
IF they all would be Nazis we would not be ruled by Muslims and terrorized by them – we are 2nd class people in our own country !
JoJo says
test
lucent says
Hi,
I am french, live in a nice french area, and we also have muslims, veils, bears, and we are struggling to avoid a mosk construction ( against our blind politicians, and traitors) : all of this is just disgusting, not only by the clothes, but by the ideology carried out by them, the totalitarism and backwarness, the hate you can feel.the death threta behind every word, every posture. This is worst than barabraic, this is the end of reason , freedom, knowledge, science, culture. slam is the ennemy of humanity
With islam : No compromise, no discussion, no lies to swallow with silence ( as pope is doing) : fight it or die
Proudly Canadian says
It warms my heart to read this piece of news. I could not be prouder of the organizers and participants of this event.
God bless you!