Islam forbids forced conversion — “There is no compulsion in religion” (Qur’an 2:256). However, what is considered “forced” is more elastic than the Western view. Muhammad is represented in a hadith as saying that Muslims should take up arms against non-Muslims who refuse to convert or submit: “Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them…. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” (Sahih Muslim 4294)
Thus when these children who refused to convert, the Islamic State jihadis fought and killed them, as per Muhammad’s instructions.
“British ‘Vicar of Baghdad’ claims ISIS beheaded four children for refusing to convert to Islam” The Independent, December 9, 2014:
ISIS have beheaded four Christian children in Iraq for refusing to convert to Islam, a British vicar based in the country has claimed.
Canon Andrew White, who is known as the ‘vicar of Baghdad’, told Orthodox Christian Network that the killings happened in a Christian enclave close to Baghdad which has been taken over by ISIS (formerly known as Islamic State).
Actually it is currently known as the Islamic State, and formerly known as ISIS.
He spoke of how ISIS has “hounded” the Christians out of Iraq, and how “they killed in huge numbers, they chopped their children in half, they chopped their heads off, and they moved north and it was so terrible what happened”.
He told the network that militants “came to one of our people the other day, one of the Christians”.
“They said to one man, an adult, ‘Either you say the words of conversion to Islam or we kill all your children’.
“He was desperate, he said the words. And then he phoned me, and said, ‘Abouna [Father], I said the words, does that mean that Yeshua doesn’t’ love me anymore?’ I said, ‘Yeshua still loves you, he will always love you”.
Canon White claimed that the children who were beheaded had refused to “follow Mohammed”….
“ISIS turned up and said to the children, ‘You say the words that you will follow Mohammed’.”
“The children, all under 15, four of them, said no, we love Yeshua, we have always loved we have always followed Yeshua, Yeshua has always been with us.
“They said: ‘Say the words.’ They said ‘No, we can’t.’ They chopped all their heads off. How do you respond to that? You just cry.”
Canon White said that ISIS were threatening to kill him, and that he is now living in Israel, following orders from the Archbishop of Canterbury to leave Iraq. He said that most of his staff are still in the north of Iraq trying to look after displaced Christians.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Poor kids. All they had to do was ruin their lives; now they ain’t got no lives at all. Which is better, being dead or being a Moslem? The voted for the former, and they paid the price demanded by Allah. They made the Call to Islam, an invitation, and the invitation was rudely rebuked.
Just for fun, can we go through some academic arguments about whether all those people voluntarily converted to the Islam during the second half of the 7th century? Those are great. An answered question looking for questionable persistence as a question. While the discipline of history is dying and nearly dead, it is unfortunate that Fukuyama was wrong, that history has not ended. If anything, it’s accelerated.
wakeup333 says
Even Quran 2:256 contradicts itself! It starts saying “no compulsion in religion,” but then says you must spurn “false deities” to grasp the “firm handhold” of Allah. (No compulsion there!)
For dim bulbs, the next verse makes it clearer: those who don’t believe in Allah will burn in hell forever! (Quran 2:257);
No kidding! The famous “no compulsion” crap is… the usual menacing compulsion!!
http://quran.com/2/256-257
Edison says
Muslims love to point out 2:256, But 9:1-5 paints a different picture.
[This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists.
So travel freely, [O disbelievers], throughout the land [during] four months but know that you cannot cause failure to Allah and that Allah will disgrace the disbelievers
And [it is] an announcement from Allah and His Messenger to the people on the day of the greater pilgrimage that Allah is disassociated from the disbelievers, and [so is] His Messenger. So if you repent, that is best for you; but if you turn away – then know that you will not cause failure to Allah . And give tidings to those who disbelieve of a painful punishment.
Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him].
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
This is convert or die.Simple enough.
terry says
“They said: ‘Say the words.’ They said ‘No, we can’t.’ They chopped all their heads off. How do you respond to that? You just cry.”
I wanted to comment on that but I really didn’t know what to say! It’s far beyond the ability of all the words I know, to describe the evilness of that horrible murder, Islam and how I feel about both!!
gravenimage says
I know *exactly* how you feel, Terry.
terry says
gravenimage,
Thank you for the kind words. I am really proud to belong to this community of people, who comment on this site, care deeply about humanity, sincerely seek and uphold the truth and being passionate about all of that.
As Salah, Justin and several others commented, taking real concrete action, by each one of us, is very crucial in our push back against this Global Islamic menace.
One can start, if not already started, with informing each person he/she comes in contact with, about the real nature of Islam, why they should care and get involved, how it threatens their own survival and that of their children and grand children. I personally think that donating to sites, organisations and publicity campaign exposing Islam, its agenda and Jihad’s real nature, like this site and the AFDI bus publicity campaign, is very helpful.
In addition, signing petitions for the cause of many persecuted Christians, such as that of Asia Bibi; writing letters to governments or officials regarding specific cases or to put pressure on them to take concrete action against this Islamic threat, all can have some effect.
Of course we have to keep all our options open in this fight, this is a ruthless enemy!
Any military action or use of force should be through a united front of either non Muslim governments from all over the world, including the west, which unfortunately, is very unlikely, or at least large masses of populations across borders, to give it a strong enough base and legitimacy to be powerful and effective.
Individual attempts at any use of force, would be very limited in its success, at best, marginalised, condemned and vilified, at worst.
A big question remains, how to convince non Muslim masses and governments , in the west, to have a firm united front against Islam and its ideology while still respecting their western values and ideals? I say that, because it seems to me that many of them can’t make the distinction between, on the one hand, being anti Islam’s doctrines, Jihad and evil and, on the other hand, being anti Muslims, human beings carrying this label, who, in many cases, as someone said, are “nominal” or non practising. While I am all for the first, I am against the second, against showing animosity and hatred toward someone, a stranger whom I know nothing about, simply because he/she carries the label of being “Muslim”; I am sure that that is also the opinion of many who comment on this site. Having said that, it is still our responsibility to show these later Muslims the direct link between them continuing carrying that label and the perpetuation and survival of that religion, its belief system, Jihad and pure evil. And this must be a group effort, for it to succeed, with governments, media and academia, all involved, which currently is not the case. That’s why I wrote that question in the beginning of this paragraph.
I think that western governments and large masses of their populations are crippled by this handicap of not being able to sort this type of thing out in their brains and hence, not being able to deal with Islam’s evil effectively.
Jay Boo says
Islam places a strong emphasis on PURITY.
Muslims are obsessed about washing before prayer and the image of PURITY.
Muslims would not need to behave this way were it not for Islam’s FILTH.
Purity is merely a veil to cover up Islam’s stink..
Dan says
all those jihadis are Queer and rejected misfits.
Salah says
@terry,
“I wanted to comment on that but I really didn’t know what to say!”
Here’s what *I* would say:
Obama, you have blood on your hands.
Muslim Brotherhood thugs, you have blood on your hands.
Peoples of the West doing nothing to remove your evil governments, you have blood on your hands.
Nominal Muslims still in Islam, you have blood on your hands.
True Muslims, well, needless to say, you have blood on your hands. But most importantly, you who believe in the afterlife, you. will. pay. and you will pay for a long, long, long time.
Salah says
As for the innocent victims, here’s a beautiful painting by W.A.Bouguereau: “Vierge Consolatrice.” It says it all.
http://www.wikiart.org/en/william-adolphe-bouguereau/virgin-comforter-1875
gravenimage says
Salah wrote:
As for the innocent victims, here’s a beautiful painting by W.A.Bouguereau: “Vierge Consolatrice.” It says it all.
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Thank you for posting this link, Salah—I have always loved Bouguereau’s work, and it is particularly apt here.
I had a chance to see this particular work—and a few others by the same master—when they were on display at the De Young Museum here in San Francisco a few years ago. A glorious and moving painting.
Salah says
@gravenimage,
Glorious and Moving. Two simple words, best description ever.
terry says
Salah,
“…… you have blood on your hands”
There are some very pertinent and inspiring-to-action words, in there. I really, hope that all people reading that, would be inspired into action!
I checked the painting, it’s beautiful, thanks.
noellsq says
POTUS please open our borders to these G-D fearing Muslims bring more to Dearborn and other parts of the USA as they want to be good Americans by setting up Sharia. I cannot believe that their are moderate Muslims. How could they be if all thru the Quran they say kill or enslave.
Joginder Singh says
No doubt we will be deafened by islam’s Useful idiots in the leftwing and the dhimmified MSM about this beheading of christian children
Alex says
No islamophobia was commited, so no, it’s not news worthy. But there was that anti-islam graffiti I saw the other day on a public bench downtown. (Terrible. My eyes welled up in outrage.)
john spielman says
words cannot descibe my hatred for islam. This is just more proof that islam is a doctrine of demons and muhammed-pbuh* was a demon possessed mass murderer thief liar miogynist and peophile pervert,
pbuh*- perpetual banishment unto hell!
Nicu says
And that’s why I doN’t get it why they have so much power in 21st century !
Good doers and left wing people trait us for them ! Demonstrants against Islam are called terrorists !
John Pottorff says
Like many, I don’t have a very good comment at present. But thanks to all of you for commenting, especially John Spielman. I hate those also that perpetrate these actions, and for those few mUslims that are passive I can never trust them.
Evil like this will run its course and then it will be destroyed.
One more thing; those young boys are being comforted by the Son of God the only mediator between God and man.
gp says
For being the “Religion of Peace” that sure do a great deal of killing…and raping…and terrorizing… and causing overall mayhem. They do as their satanic verses command. If God is Love they could be no further from him.
mariam rove says
While those vile bastards are murdering innocent people, I am going to say this and it is not meant to be offensive or uncaring. ISIS is the thing that happened to our cause fighting Islam. Finally people around the worlds are seeing true face of Islam. M
Joginder Singh says
Unfortunately the prime minsters, presidents, lawmakers, politicians, educators, law enforcement and similar have yet to get the e-mail
dlbrand says
I hear you, Mariam.
Nonetheless, with due respect, we have been seeing, in clear view, the true face of Islam for the past 13-plus years.
We were witnesses to it, up close and personal—crucifixions, dismemberments, beheadings, and disembowelments, etc.—for the better part of our recent time in Iraq. But all “we” did then, for the most part, was to look the other way. Blame the savage acts on twisted, diabolic individuals.
But we refused and thus refrained from asserting, thus dealing with, the fact that, the blame lies at the feet of a twisted and diabolic so-called “religion.” The blame lies at the sick mode for life advised, portrayed, spelled-out and provided by the man (be he real or fictional), Muhammad.
Thus, today, “we” remain doing our darndest to protect Islam, do our level best and beyond it to tidy up, wash-up the “face” of Islam. Empower the “Moderates” within it.
Do so asserting, our hope for survival and freedom (freedom, first, from the bombs, blades, fire, etc. of the jihadist) lies in them.
For all the lives and limbs lost in the past 13 + years secondary to the actions and hatred of Muhammad’s minions; far too many of us, still refuse to be able to regard the facts on Islam for just that– If we did, we would rise up and demand, our nation rid itself of every trace of the “din.”
We would fight the scourge everywhere, support it nowhere.
(http://www.barenakedislam.com/2014/12/08/dutch-mp-machiel-de-graaf-says-we-must-close-all-mosques-and-start-deporting-muslims/#comment-373835)
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
ISIS is the (best) thing that happened to our cause fighting Islam.
I’ve been thinking the same thing. The new Caliphs are so… stark. They do what they do and then clearly explain why.
When he watches Prez Barack Hussein insist on disassociating the the Islamic State from Islam, Average Joe Sixpack sits on his sofa in the family room and does the universal jagoff motion. Pu-leeze, fer Chrisakes, Islam *is* associated with the Islamic State, give us that much at least.
Fr. Basil` says
Holy new child martyrs, pray to God for us.
john spielman says
islam is AN antichrist religion and perhaps THE antichrist will be the muslim mahd. As for these saintly children, St John in Revalations says they are under the living throne altar of God waiting fro the Day of the Lord, The day when His wrath comes down upon on all who did this. Woe to those who hurt and kill the Lord’s children
eib says
There are many, many child-martyrs in Christianity.
gravenimage says
Eib, I had fervently hoped that we were well past the time where there would be those monstrous enough to martyr these innocents.
dlbrand says
Islam’s blood-tracked march, today, is secondary to the assistance every fool has provided to them by refusing, refraining from addressing, head-on, the facts of what Islam is.
The blood of the literally countless, as did the blood of Able of-old, it cries out from the ground that swallowed or soaked it up; I stands and testifies against the stupidity, the cowardice in our elected officials who refuse and refrain from stating facts with respect to Islam and it following.
The blood of these children–as is so with every drop of blood shed by every one of our troops that have been foolishly spent in our misguided efforts to empower the imaginary “Moderate”—remains impossible to conceal on the well-washed hands of our fool-headed “leaders” and war planners in this conflict.
Both “The Right” and The Left, in our White House celebrate Islam. And these murders, this savageness; these base diabolic slaughters are the fruits of those who follow the teachings of Islam.
cs says
That is beyond words. Beyond condemnation, beyond humanity.
G179 says
Indeed, Islam is peaceful – as long as you play along.
Champ says
What is islam if not a savage, demonic death cult and beyond barbaric …and IS *is* islam.
These Christian children are so incredibly brave!
Champ says
“And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshipped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” –Revelation 20:4
dlbrand says
Indeed, Amen, the world, unworthy of them…
Bezelel says
That verse has come to my mind more than once reading JW. I’m glad you posted it. There is no excuse for their kind. Like Salah said, obola has their blood on his hands. Our tax dollars at work.
Guest says
The dhimmi leftists in the west think that these four children were being Islamophobic by rejecting the “gentle invitation” to convert to Islam.So nothing will be said of this .Same for the enemedia.
pongidae rex says
The beheading children for refusing to convert to Islam is amazingly less a cause for global Muslim rage than a cartoon in a European newspaper. Sometimes silence can teach us more than any number of words.
BW022 says
The sad thing is that beheading of Christian children in Iraq by ISIS is amazingly less a cause for global non-Muslim rage than a some graffiti on a Mosque in Canada following the attack on Parliament, ‘harsh’ words said by Sam Harris or Bill Maher in a TV, etc.
It isn’t as if Christians, Jews, Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, feminists, gays, etc. in western countries are out protesting deaths of their on people in Islamic countries. Publish a few cartoons and months or years later tens or hundreds of millions of Muslims throughout the world are protesting. Behead atheists in the Congo, burn Christians alive in Egypt, sentence women to death for being raped/adultery, etc. and … you hear crickets in Rome, college campuses, churches, and synagogues, etc. throughout the western world.
You likely won’t even see that story on any major western newspaper, TV news, or even major internet sites. They’ll focus on a few dozen deaths in Gaza, or some Muslim in Dearborn getting their car keyed.
gravenimage says
God knows this is true. Muslims show their true colors in what “offends” them.
Jay Boo says
pongidae rex said
“The beheading children for refusing to convert to Islam is amazingly less a cause for global Muslim rage than a cartoon in a European newspaper.
Sometimes silence can teach us more than any number of words.”
So true
Charli Main says
Sick Muslim filth.
If they are not raping children, they are beheading them or burying them alive.
How can any sane person believe, that an insane, child raping psychopath is the most perfect man that has ever lived??????
Champ says
I agree, Charlie; it is so painfully obvious–to the rational mind–that islam is evil to the core.
Islamisdeath says
They are raised with a depraved world view. They think that which is right is wrong and that which is wrong is right. Raised with it and threatened with unspeakable horrors upon death if they depart from it.
Twostellas says
It is a strong delusion. And consumes their soul til they are no more.
Howard says
For over a year, my wife has been attending a Baptist church with a large congregation. She has never heard the pastor speak to the atrocities that occur under the hand of Islam. Interestingly, his church is across the street from where there use to be a mosque. I don’t understand why so few pastors speak for their Christian brothers and sisters who are being martyred. An hour of study would be sufficient to learn that what is happening in the middle-east today will happen to them tomorrow.
dlbrand says
“An hour of study would be sufficient to learn that what is happening in the middle-east today will happen to them tomorrow.”
Yuuuup.
Walter Sieruk says
The Muslim fiends of ISIS do indeed murder children, What violent and murderous thugs these ISIS villains are ! To add to this evil the ISIS menbers gather together against Christians, then they go even further in their extreme wickedness to even murder children. This type of heinous, hideous and cruel evil is described in the Bible .Which In Psalm 94:21 reads “They band together against the righteous and condenm the innocent to death.” [N.I.V]
Jay Boo says
“They band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death.”
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“Thus when these children who refused to convert, the Islamic State jihadis fought and killed them, as per Muhammad’s instructions.”
Thus, (Muhammad’s instructions) were an unintended admission by Muhammad that the spiteful Allah (the greatest) that Muhammad invented actually has no power at all to carry out his will.
Jay Boo says
Aramaic Broadcasting Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCrsY3mqCpk
Mr. Grump says
I thought that raping and selling women and children into bondage was the most despicable and low thing that the Islamic State could do. I stand corrected. Beheading children? And at this time, why on earth is our government revealing the CIA’s tactics like we have anything to be ashamed of?
I think these Islamist’s rectums filled with hummus, while they are bound and gagged on top of a colossal fire ant hill that is subsequently disturbed would be the start to a fitting consequence for these people (and I use the term ‘people’ very, verrryy loosely here).
I don’t want to hear any more excuses about how the Islamic State isn’t ‘Islamic’. Islamic State’s actions are sanctioned by the Koran. It’s 2014– we can all read, people. When our leaders in the West actually read the Koran for themselves, and read between the lines so they finally understand how big the disconnect between the Islamist agenda and their nicey nice peace talk (that they give us in English about how peaceful Islam is…) then we are going to wipe them off this planet. I for one, will have a party when this happens. If it means that I have to roast a stale, moldy marshmallow over the smoldering coals of what’s left after a nuclear war, I will do so with glee and great satisfaction.
Onward Christian soldiers! Onward forces of reason. Why should we tolerate and include a doctrine that subjugates women, condones child marriage, sex slavery, killing homosexuals? Wipe this from the face of the earth. We should be giving THEM the chance to drop this nonsense before we press the red button and kablooey.
Christy, you seem like a sweet soul, but you are missing the big picture here. The problem is not that Islamist violence is the only problem in the world (agreed, it is not). The problem is that the fundamental beliefs of Islam promote and these hateful things, regularly and in significant numbers, throughout its history, period. I suggest that you get a copy of the Koran, and go through it with a highlighter. In one color, highlight all the directives to take captives of thy right hand (sex slaves), jizya, taqiyya, beheading, etc. In another color, highlight the ‘peaceful’ text. I think you will be shocked. It’s much easier to make politically correct excuses if you don’t read the text yourself.
There are good people in every demographic, including the Muslim faith. The doctrine itself is evil. The good Muslims aren’t really following their religion. I’m sure that there are some nice people in the church of Satan, also (but those guys aren’t beheading children… so I’m not really focusing on them right now). At some point, we all have to do the numbers and add things up. Then I think you’ll see it.
I find radical Christians annoying, but they aren’t beheading people, either. Also, those folks are making up their own interpretation of the Bible. The difference is that the Muslims we consider ‘radical’ are really just following the directions in their book, plain and simple.
somehistory says
*Cristy* already knows islam is the problem. *Cristy* is well aware of what these monsters, followers of satan’s so-called prophet, do to children. *Cristy* argues in favor of islam on a regular basis.
I agree with Philip J’s request that *Cristy* be banned from the site. Reading about what islam is doing to children is sickening and heart-breaking without having *Cristy* run interference for the monsters who are carrying out the will of their father, satan the devil.
Champ says
I agree with Philip J’s request that *Cristy* be banned from the site.
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I agree! …in fact, yesterday I wrote JW and requested that “christy” be banned; so perhaps others may want to write Robert directly, as well, since he doesn’t always read the comments section.
dlbrand says
Amen, Grump. The gamut therein.
Mr. Grump says
Christy, the problem is indeed Islam itself. I suggest that you get a copy of the Koran: in one color highlighter, highlight the passages condoning violence, beheading, sex slavery, taqiyya, jizya. In another color, highlight the lovely, poetic peaceful passages. You will quickly get the big picture.
Mr. Grump says
Read the Koran yourself, Christy. Highlight all the passages condoning and encouraging sex slavery, beheading, taqiyya, jizya, killing homosexuals. Then highlight the ‘peaceful’ passages in another color. You will quickly get the big picture.
Then, do the math and add up how many lives have been ended and how much suffering has been created through Islam’s entire history. This is not a doctrine that should be allowed at the world table, unamended.
Hokken says
Muslims living in the west and the US must be given an ultimatum. Either they embrace the culture that welcomed them or they must be deported to countries that are in line with their beliefs. A very dangerous trend is going on in the west thanks to the useful idiots and the Islam apologists, we must not compromise with Islam, that ideology is a danger to humanity and it must eradicated.
Falsafa says
Hokken says
“Muslims living in the west and the US must be given an ultimatum. Either they embrace the culture that welcomed them or they must be deported to countries that are in line with their beliefs. ”
Can you please expand a little on what this “embracing the culture” would actually mean? What would for example be grounds for deportation in your view?
Ursula says
For one thing, accept our laws and stop trying to bring sharia law into our countries. Allow your young girls to enjoy being around other young people, rather than them having the threat of ‘honor killing’ hanging over them for not wanting to wear the niqab, or for looking at a boy.
Stop teaching in mosques to hate ‘infidels’ (oh, wait – that is a command from Allah through his ‘prophet’ Muhammad – good Muslims HAVE to hate us!).
Unfortunately, thinking about it, I am not sure if there is a way for Muslims to actually integrate, unless they abandon their ‘faith’, as Islam teaches that they should never integrate, but rather conquer the countries to emigrate to.
Falsafa says
“For one thing, accept our laws….Allow your young girls to enjoy being around other young people, rather than them having the threat of ‘honor killing’ hanging over them for not wanting to wear the niqab, or for looking at a boy.”
Agree with all that you say above…so no contradiction in views there. Check.
But there is more:
” Stop trying to bring shariah law into our country….Stop teaching in mosques to hate ‘infidels’ (oh, wait – that is a command from Allah through his ‘prophet’ Muhammad – good Muslims HAVE to hate us!).
Unfortunately, thinking about it, I am not sure if there is a way for Muslims to actually integrate, unless they abandon their ‘faith’, as Islam teaches that they should never integrate, but rather conquer the countries to emigrate to.”
Here I lost the plot. If the above is true then perhaps we can make an attempt to address it, but can’t really – as it’s compeltely untrue….you’ve gone on a tangent here I am afraid and therefore you really need to broaden your horizons and repost!
dlbrand says
In other words then, reject Islam. Apostatize from it.
gravenimage says
Falsafa wrote:
….you’ve gone on a tangent here I am afraid and therefore you really need to broaden your horizons and repost!
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Perhaps he should “broaden his horizons” to accept the beheading of Infidel children, then?
Notice that the appalling Falsafa does not condemn the horrifying murder of these little children.
Instead, he is whinging about being unable to impose brutal Shari’ah law in the free West.
On another thread, this vicious apologist was touting a “scholar” who declared that little Aisha was an “adult” at age nine, and thus fair game for the vile Prophet. *Ugh*.
Jay Boo says
“fueled by radical Islam”
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Caliphate Christy is back as expected.
The problem is not RADICAL Islam the problem is Islam.
Christy is a misleading moniker for such a frequent apologizer for the moon god religion.
Chandni or some other Muslim name is more likely.
Whenever the stink of Islam gets overwhelming one can be certain that Christy will show up with perfume.
Bezelel says
You can tell how concerned christy is about this brutal act. Who ever it is has been going into past articles posting her/his graffiti where it goes unchallenged.
SpiritOf1683 says
That evil troll Christy will be handing out sweeets to her barbaric brood. It is time to kick the likes of herself out of the West. If we value our civilization and culture, the deportations have to begin in earnest, otherwise what we see in the Middle East, Pakistan and Somalia will become commonplace in the West, 100 years and perhaps much less from now.
Wellington says
Reading this article and the comments addressing it put me in a “sum-up” kind of state. Here it is: The more Islam you get the more repression and/or death you get and the current crop of Western elites, whether they be in academia, the media or the political realm (such a realm, sadly, would include politicized military officers like General Casey) are just about the sorriest excuses for leadership as has ever existed in the entire history of Western Civilization.
I mean someone like Obama, Cameron and the present Pope make the Western Roman Emperors in the fifth century, the later Merovingians and the last of the Visigoths in seventh and eighth-century Spain look not so bad——a difficult thing to do but these rubes have managed it.
Islam thrives most when vacuums exist, be they moral, military or cognitive. Hence it’s thriving right now.
Jay Boo says
… they chopped their children in half, they chopped their heads off.
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They are following the example of — “Prophet Muhammad SAW”
This is the real reason that Muslims write SAW after his name.
Ursula says
I met Andrew White (The Vicar of Baghdad) last night at a gathering organized by the Voice of the Martyrs Canada (not publicly publicized for security reasons, but only by personal invitation).
I asked him if he thinks that Baghdad is going to fall to ISIS, and he said that no, it never would. When I asked why not, and who would defend it, he told me that it won’t be the Iraqi army, as they’re utterly useless, and it certainly won’t be any western powers, as they won’t fight on the ground, and the airstrikes are useless, too.
But he says that there is a ‘holy’ Shiite site in Baghdad, and there are two more in the south of Iraq. There is a Shiite militia who is strong and more powerful than ISIS, and ISIS won’t get past them.
Which is very sad, because that means they could have prevented ISIS taking over the north of Iraq, as well. But because the north has Kurds, Christian, Yazidis and other minorities (and no sites that are holy to them), they have had no interest in saving the north. But they WILL save Baghdad and the south.
He also mentioned the ‘useless president to the south of Canada’, and right he is. He mentioned that he is responsible for this whole mess to begin with, and I completely agree.
Bezelel says
If by “useless president” you mean obola then I completely agree.
TH says
You think the rest of us are fools. No one says that there are not atrocities committed by others, but how can you ex’plain the daily jihad, over 24,000 attacks since 9/11. Islam is the only “religion” or better dangerous cult which orders its adepts to kill everyone who refuses to join it.
Kepha says
I can only think of John’s vision of the souls of those beheaded for the testimony of Jesus underneath the altar in Heaven (Rev. 6:9). The bloody-minded critters who killed these young people have just seen what real martyrdom is. The question is now whether God sees the blood of these young martyrs as either the seed for a future church in the region or as a cry for vengeance against those who blaspheme against Him.
Bezelel says
Sometimes I really feel like giving God advice. Your will Father and not my own.
Kepha says
Bezelel, I have the same feeling, too. And from what I read in Revelation, it seems that folks in Heaven seem to be of the same mind, too–indeed, the exact text I thought about when I read this post. “How long, O Lord…?”
Could it be that through the Messiah, God is calling this lost world to a divine dialogue (nod to Martin Buber), and while perhaps we begin the dialogue in this world, it continues on into the next?
eduardo odraude says
Islam destroys freedom of speech. Even in the U.S., with perhaps 1 or 2% Muslims, there is already a great deal of self-censorship about Islam by fearful public figures, artists, journalists, professors and the ordinary public. Don’t believe it? Here’s proof anyone can check.
eduardo odraude says
You can’t see the link in my comment above, though it is there, but here it is again more visible: Islamic Intimidation
AnneM says
…..Except on the internet, as proof, we have websites such as this one, founded by Robert Spencer.
duh_swami says
‘They are with them’, said the Devil incarnate. And the evil deeds are done…But don’t worry, it was Allah who killed them, not you. Q8:17…Depraved…
Jay Boo says
The foreign recruits to the Islamic state who commit such acts will want to return to their original countries to claim lifetime disability checks for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Syndrome from butchering children.
The UK government is probably printing up bundles of disability checks in advance of their expected return.
Smokey S says
Islam is most definitely a killing political machine. Their intentions are to dominate the world and kill those who do not submit to Islam. If you were to look over the History of Islam you would find a sea of blood from all their victims. They are deceitful and its cause their religion advocates this behavior to gain control over non-Muslims/infidels. As for the killing I don’t think that they ones returning will even care for they believe that its in the name of allah and that its good and righteous for what they did. They continue to use the Palestinians as a victim card meanwhile Jordan is where they are from and deserve to be treated fairly but Jordan has other plans. Islam is the religion or better yet a killing political machine, they won’t stop until they destroy everything that isn’t Islamic/Muslim.
Arthur says
Oh, my heart aches as I read this.
David wenster says
What is happening around the world is clearly an anti-semitic and clearly an islamic propaganda , politicians deny the fact because they are afraid of being called racists.Wake up world.
Bindon blood says
And shamefully the mainstream news media doesn’t even mention it,not here in England anyway.
particolor says
Same in Aussie !! They are too busy changing their Underwear !!
Jay Boo says
Muslims will proclaim but this isn’t Islam.
Yet again
and again
and again
gravenimage says
The evil Muslim apologist “Christy” is back, spamming the same bs she has posted here a dozen times.
No one else is *beheading children* who refuse to convert from Christianity—no matter what the sand-throwing “Christy” would have us believe.
Jay Boo says
ISIS makes videos of smiling recruits playing with children to appeal to pedophile nature of sexually repressed Muslim men.
Richie says
I have noticed child rape is widespread in islam, I suspect since their demonic cult leader Muhammad was a child rapist
Jay Boo says
For Muslim readers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfae2gB4M4s
Jesus Christ loved children.
Jay Boo says
Also:
Children from Kenya singing about Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIVupwNgIVA
Islam has nothing to do with Jesus
Jesus loved children but Muhammad used children as sex slaves.
Richie says
The western liberal media ignores this- all leftists do is try and find false equivilancy and slam Christianity, and blather ‘what about the crusades? What about Timothy McVeigh?’
We may lose this war, since people are afraid to even name the enmy
Jay Boo says
The clever Muslims will try to cause division in a desperate attempt to save their foul ideology from scrutiny like we see with the complicit news media attempts at sleazy journalism innuendo such as in Ferguson, MO Muslim.
Ibrahim Abdul-Matin
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-12-09/heres-why-you-should-leave-racists-your-facebook-feed
But there is a flood wave of truth beginning to be unleashed on Islam from many directions.
Muslims are just people and are not the real root cause. Islam is their excuse.
Take away the excuse.
When truth washes the veil from this excuse, Muslims and converts will rightly be too ashamed to have anything to do with Islam.
Lee says
It is obvious that not all Muslims are like ISIS but WHY don’t the ‘moderates’ organise a huge rally stating that ISIS is Evil. There was huge rallies when Israel was forced to retaliate to the thousands of rockets from Gaza and the media crucified the Jews for acting in self defence. Funny old World isn’t it?
Daz says
The ‘moderates’ passively follow the exact same Koran used by Isis. Give them time. They will become active soon enough.
Bimo says
Heaven Exsists Hell does EXIST…
Tim says
This is highly disturbing and so sad to hear.
hammar says
Oh, you can possess the whole world, and persecute and murder, but oh! remember
the “Lord our God will judge the world. You can do anything you like but you do not own your soul.
It belongs to God. Beware islam, Jesus is Lord and God. Your days are numbered! Amen.
AnneM says
Remember, Jesus the KING is coming “soon and very soon.”
Champ says
Amen, AnneM!!
Jack Diamond says
It’s all taqiyya and muda’rat, this no compulsion business. Aside from being an abrogated verse there is the observable behavior of Muslims for fourteen centuries when they have “the upper hand” and, the basis for that– the example of Muhammad, model of conduct for all Muslims. All Islam is compulsion and coercion. Why is there a death penalty over a Muslim leaving Islam if there is no compulsion in religion? The condition of conquered dhimmi people, humiliating and oppressive to make them feel “subdued”, was this not compulsion when at any time they could lose their “protected” status and war would be made on them, and was their lowly status not a compulsion for many to convert to Islam for a better life? If they were not outright threatened and made to recite the shahada? The 3 choices given by Muhammad to the kaffir: convert, be subjugated, or die–no compulsion in that? This is a Humpty Dumpty farce where words mean what Muslims want them to mean.
“Everything in the Qur’an about forgiveness is abrogated by verse 9:5” Jahluddin Suyuti, 1497 (Istenbat al-Tanzeer)
Ibn Hisham p.134 “Biography of the Apostle”: “Muhammad sent Khalid Ibn al_Walid to the tribe of the children of Harith and told him ‘Call them to accept Islam before you fight with them.. if they refuse, fight them’. They entered Islam BY FORCE. He brought them to Muhammad. ‘Had you not accepted Islam I would have cast your heads under your feet.’ (Al Road Al Anf p.4 pp217-18)
Either they accepted Islam or they would have been beheaded. No compulsion in religion here.
Muhammad and his followers were about to attack Mecca, his adherents arrested Abu Sufyan, one of Mecca’s inhabitants. They brought him to Muhammad. Muhammad told him: “Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to realize that there is no God but the only God?” Abu Sufyan answered: “I do believe that.” Muhammad then said to him: “Woe to you, O Abu Sufyan. Is it not time for you to know that I am the apostle of God?” Abu Sufyan answered: “By God, O Muhammad, of this there is doubt in my soul.” The ’Abbas who was present with Muhammad told Abu Sufyan: “Woe to you! Accept Islam and testify that Muhammad is the apostle of God before your neck is cut off by the sword.” Thus he professed the faith of Islam and became a Muslim. ° Ibn Hisham, part 4, p. 11 (“Biography of the Prophet’) “The Chronicle of the Tabari”, part 2, p. 157 Ibn Kathir, “The Prophetic Biography”, part 3, p. 549, and “The Beginning and the End” Ibn Khaldun, the rest of part 2, p. 43 and on
The late and unlamented Dr.Muhammad Saed Ramadan al-Buti in “The Jurisprudence of Muhammad’s Biography” repeats this story. He fears some people will protest faith should not be imposed by threats of death! “What is required of an infidel or one who confuses other gods with God, is to have his tongue surrender to the religion of God and to subdue himself to the Prophethood of Muhammad. But his heartfelt faith is not required at the beginning. It will come later.”
Now THIS is what Islam means by forced conversion. Not making you confess Islam by your tongue- repeat the words of the shahada- that is perfectly okay, but making you believe it in your heart. This is the slipperiness of Islam and the way such a crime as murdering children who refuse the offer to convert and just wish to remain Christian (therefore guilty of shirk and spreading fitna–which is worse than a slaughter) can be justified in their dark, filthy hearts as perfectly righteous and excused..
How conquering Muslims treat their captives is at their discretion–in jihad children are not to be killed, unless they are “fighting” (It is not permissible to kill women and children . . . unless they are fighting against the Muslims. p. 603, o9.10 ‘Umdat al-Salik) -and how old are they before they are not “children” considering how young the boys were of the Banu Qurayza? As for the no-longer children prisoners of war, ‘Umdat al-Salik makes clear the Caliph has his choice for them of either slavery, releasing them, or killing them outright if its “in the best interests of the Muslims” should they refuse to convert. In fact, rejecting Islam is in itself is considered an act of “waging war” against Islam in their fiqh and the “rules” of Jihad are clearly conditional with no consequences for their breach.
gravenimage says
All very true. Excellent post, Jack.
Jack Diamond says
Thank you, graven.
Darren says
If there is a god those 4 children are in heaven. How can’t you respect the courage of those 4 children. Satan came knocking and they looked Satan straight in the face and said no. R.I.P. A shame no one ever tries to arm the Christians and other non muslims around the world, but we dump trillions of dollars in munitions on the muslim world.
Smokey S says
I agree with you 100%
dlbrand says
“A shame no one ever tries to arm the Christians and other non muslims around the world, but we dump trillions of dollars in munitions on the muslim world.
Indeed, Darren.
We do so because empowering the “Moderate” fits our world view, therefore, “the best of our best” conclude, the venture is worth the blood, the limbs, the lives of our sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, so too, the fill in our coffers.
For such reasons, our easily provable history of simply watching from afar, atrocities heaped on atrocities, perpetrated by the hands of “believers,” as they obey Allah, follow his messenger, and thus, deliver the “good news of Allah’s painful punishment” on Christians and other non-Muslims.
Glen Goodrum says
This is just heartbreaking that anyone would kill children this way and to do it in the name of God is sickening . My God is a God of love and the Bible tells us it is the devil that lies ,kills and destroys .
We are suppose to oppose satan and evil .My prayers go out to them.
Peter says
Have any comments about torture, Diane SlimeStein? These are the people you and heer DemoNazis give aid and comfort. Looks like the only way to get rid of these psychopathic lunatic liberals in Washington is to get rid of these lunatic liberals.
mike says
Where are the raving liberals …where is fine stine? Where are the hipsters ? Where are the professors? Where are the union democrats, where is Jessie, where is al, where is Nancy, where is Harry, where is Bill, where is Hillary, where is Obozzo? Not an utterance. …not a protest, not an outrage …..I think we know who they have decided they support
AC says
Even if you watch the news media, publicly BOYCOTT all sponsors when the media refuses to report the truth about this or reports it with bias. Your dollars speak louder than words!
Before email every phonecall to the media represented 10,000 calls. They knew that for every 1 caller, 10,000 others wanted to but didn’t call.
Email, call and even snail mail!! DOn’t hesitate.
Mathias says
Only a religion which believes in the divinity of all living form can save humanity from being extinguished.
http://sanatanaparishad.blogspot.in/