Jihad in practice is not as glamorous as jihad in theory. But French authorities would be foolish to take a broken iPod as evidence of “repentance,” as if the jihadis who wanted to return no longer believed in jihad warfare against Infidels. The fact that jihad is difficult and unappealing in Syria doesn’t mean that they won’t want to wage it in France, where they can always recharge their iPods.
“Jihadists in Syria write home to France: ‘My iPod is broken. I want to come back,'” by Harriet Alexander, the Telegraph, December 2, 2014:
Letters from French jihadists home to their parents have revealed the misery, boredom and fear suffered by Islamist recruits as the gloss fades from their big adventure.
In a series of letters seen by Le Figaro newspaper, some of the 376 French currently fighting in Syria have begged for advice on how to return. Others have complained that, rather than participating in a noble battle, they have been acting as jihadi dogsbodies.
“I’ve basically done nothing except hand out clothes and food,” wrote one, who wants to return from Aleppo. “I also help clean weapons and transport dead bodies from the front. Winter’s arrived here. It’s begun to get really hard.”
Another writes: “I’m fed up. They make me do the washing up.”
One Frenchman whinged that he wanted to come home because he was missing the comforts of life in France.
“I’m fed up. My iPod doesn’t work any more here. I have to come back.”
A third wrote fearfully: “They want to send me to the front, but I don’t know how to fight.”
Others were concerned, more prosaically, about the nationality of their baby, which was born in Syria and so not recognised by the French state.
And Le Figaro said that, among Islamist commanders, it had been noticed that some of the French were beginning to want to leave. One Frenchman was rumoured to have been beheaded when he explained to the emir that he wanted to follow his friend who had already left.
“Everyone knows that, the longer these people stay there, the worse it will be because having watched or committed attrocities, they become ticking time bombs,” said one lawyer, quoted in Le Figaro.
“But, when it comes to having a discussion about whether France is ready to accept repentants, no politician is willing to take the risk. Imagine if one of these ex-jihadis is involved subsequently in an attack?”…
Ursula says
The French government is wise not to let any of them come back. They’ve made their decision, they wanted to kill ‘infidels’ in Syria and Iraq, and if they’re allowed back, they might just do that in France.
Sovereign Man says
Is today, “State the Obvious Day?”
Sorry, that was uncalled for.
pumbar says
The French government would be all too willing to have them back. They just don’t want to get caught letting them back in.
Don McKellar says
Yes, cutting off innocent peoples’ heads and raping women is all glamour on the internet for these Islamic creeps, but the day to day ugly reality of serving their evil cult and risking their miserable lives appeals a lot less. Especially when their latest kaffir electronics are broken!
David says
Amen!
Zebo says
Islam is so great as long as you can parasitize from others in some way .
Either directly from the kafurs welfare system or from the wealth the kafur produces in exchange for your oil.
Without welfare and/or Oil and the comfort of non-muslim inventions and products islam creates a shithole whereever islam rules.
Just compare living standards of “south malaysia”Singapur(15%muslims) with muslim dominated malysia and indonesia malaysia.
RG says
“islam creates a shithole whereever islam rules.” TUSHAY!!! (sp? – sorry I never took French in High School).
St. Croix says
*Touché!* mon ami! They’re saying “Maman! Aide-moi! How do I get out of this chicken-shit outfit?”
I hope their misery gets lots of publicity. But how are we going to know now as their cell phones start to break down? 😉 Complainers get decapitated? Let that be a warning to would-be jihadists.
cs says
They are F**kin pussies, I tell ya.
pumbar says
I’m sure I.S have lots of old Nokias with out of date SIM cards that these lot can use. You just have to be careful of the jacket that comes with the phone…
Kepha says
They’re saying, “How do I get out of this merde de poulet outfit?”
Sorry, guys. Couldn’t help myself.
RG says
Thanks, St Croix. Touché!
Champ says
“I’m fed up. They make me do the washing up.”
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ahaha!!! ..welcome to my world ..although I’m not “fed up” with doing housework and I enjoy serving my husband and family in this important way 🙂
Salah says
Islam: A one-way-ticket to Hell.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-syria-news-islamic-state-massacres-foreign-fighters-who-wanted-go-home-1476381
Aardvark says
Yep. And like Faustus, who made a similar pact with the Devil, they are just reaching the stage when they say ‘Why, this IS hell, nor am I out of it!”
mortimer says
Reopen Devil’s Island and send these having-second-thoughts jihadists there. Give them ipads and then have one channel playing David Wood, Robert Spencer and Pam Geller videos.
cs says
The whole glazov crew non stop for 10 years, then they may be cured.
mortimer says
“they have been acting as jihadi dogsbodies”
The local boys exploit these obtuse foreigners as their suicide bombers and toilet attendants.
pumbar says
Most of them can’t speak Arabic so they are as much use as a concrete parachute.
xtravagantwon says
I just have one thing to say about that… HAhahahahaha! HA! Hahahahaha! Oops, that was three things! Ha! Hahahaha!
RG says
I just have one thing to say to all of that… HAhahahahaha! Hahaha! Hahahahaha! Oops, I guess that was three things! HAHAHAHA!
Hey Pierre, how’s it feel being in HELL!?!
Neil harrison says
They are getting their Just deserts. Never let the jihadis back again
Twostellas says
More than likely not getting a share of the sex slaves and legal (per sharia) rape opportunities they thought they would be as evidenced by having to do washing, if they had captured women (or little boys and girls), they would be doing those things as their slave. And of course the murdering they lusted for. So, it would be very dangerous to let such people back into the west because they still want those things, no doubt. They just thought they could get them with no possible legal consequences in the caliphate.
The Buffster says
Yes, that sounds about right. A place where they could rape and kill without legal consequences.
Although, if they wanted to fight in the war, they aren’t afraid to die. They just want the booty, which they apparently aren’t getting.
People who think that rape and murder are what their lives should be about don’t belong in a free country.
No, wait… they don’t belong on earth.
If France, or any other country, lets these guys back into Western Civilization (unless it’s to incarcerate them till death do they part, or to try and execute them), these fellas are likely to carry on their jihad here, in the comfort of Western civilization, where their iPods work, and where, if they get caught raping and beheading, they’ll go to a nice prison with plenty of amenities and where they can hang with the other Muslim brothers as the Top Dogs on the cell block.
Some “youthful mistakes” can’t be taken back, and they tell you about the character, the souls, of the youth who make them. Beheading people appeals to them? Taking female captives seems like a hoot and a half? Then they change their minds and want to come home, because it’s not all rape and pillage?
Even though they don’t belong anywhere, the closest to their place is exactly where they put themselves. There is no acceptable reason to ever trust them in Western Society as free men. They have proven what they are, and we are entitled to keep them away from ourselves and our loved ones.
Cora Nott says
There is plenty of room in Muslim countries. If they talk the talk, then they have to walk the walk! Goodbye, French sadistic savages. YOU ARE HOME NOW!
cs says
Plenty of Sharia and Taqqiyya for them to be pleased.
islamisdeath says
Jihads not all beheadings and rape and slick videos posing with swords and severed heads eh boys? Too bad about that iPod maybe mama can send you a new one.
mariam rove says
The honey moon is over. Bunch of dumb A…… m
eib says
Let this be hard wired policy, if you fight the west, go to Arabia, the land of the Muslims, you shall never return to the west, even if you claim European ancestry. If you killed Christians, celebrated when the Armenian church and archive was blown up, you shall never live in the west. If you shouted allahu akhbar and brayed like Ishmael to the faithful, you are forever gone from the west. If you are a traitor in our midst, tomorrow, you shall be our hostage- you live at our sufferance alone.
cs says
Absolutely.
Porky The Crusader says
My iPod is broken, war is over.
BW022 says
Folks,
The prevailing sentiment to not allow them to come back is misguided. You are going to have to deal with them at some point — either killing them on the battlefield, taking them prisoner, or accepting that they might sneak into your country or commit terrorism against you. The sane course of action is to allow them home and have ways of dealing with them — i.e. arrest, convictions, and lifetime jail sentences. Build a dozen Guantanamo’s if necessary.
Imagine if thousands of Germans, Italian, or Japanese soldiers wanted to ‘come home’. Sure… welcome to an interment camp. That’s for surrendering. A few less we need to kill or capture on the battlefields.
The sad fact of the sentiment to keep them from returning is that we don’t trust western governments to actually deal with these people. I.e. life in jail or a bullet in the head. We know that the soft west will just give them token punishments and they be on the streets in a few years. So… we figure it is better that they fight and terrorize outside our country, hopefully die killing some Saudi, Syrian, or Iraqi’s. This is a bad long-term strategy. We don’t like it when Saudi, Egypt, or even Israel dumps hundreds or thousands of these folks on the streets. Likewise… is it admitting defeat if you won’t “man up” and have laws, systems, and will to deal with people within your country.
St. Croix says
Hmmm. I’ve heard the croissants aren’t so good over there (you’d think they’d be all over the “crescent” pastry by now but oh well. Some things take time.)
Thinking of Sweden and all the problems they have had with “youths” (muslims) as well as other European countries. If “youths” break any laws of the country which has so generously admitted them/their parents they should be given a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity via a one-way ticket to Syria.
What better should a muslim want? IS will be burdened with these fools then and have to waste resources in dealing with them. It will free up tax dollars and make the streets safer in the countries now suffering under those afflictions. Don’t try to stop those who run away from home to join either. Unless they are skilled terrorist of course–don’t let them go and actually help jihad–put them out of commission in some other way.
The spoiled youths who have grown up in the West will actually be hindrances and loose cannons. The “guns-n-roses” vision they thought was to be their lifestyle? It won’t be the case for most of them; they;ll end up disillusioned and doing the dishes.
Likewise all muslims who are illegal immigrants. And all who seek to stir up jihad. Don’t spend another cent trying to rehab them or “dialogue” with them. Take them off the payroll kick them out. And never let them back in.
Keith says
Brilliantly said, I couldn’t agree more. Kick out anyone that doesn’t want to live under our laws with the freedoms that we have.
The Buffster says
You nailed it. The reason I don’t want them back is because I don’t trust governments to keep them locked up for life or to execute them. I’d prefer that they come back and be prevented from inflicting their rotten jihadist selves on anyone but other criminals of their own persuasion. They need to be out of commission forever.
voegelinian says
The West is obviously not capable of dealing with the problem of Muslims. Duh. We in the Counter-Jihad are pushing a meme, in the battle space of the War of Ideas; we’re not in the Government advocating policy, for crying out loud. And the meme we are pushing has obviously not penetrated the besotted thick skulls of the Western Mainstream, most of whom are even stupider than BW022 or the JW Softies.
gravenimage says
Jihadists in Syria write home to France: ‘My iPod is broken. I want to come back’
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Well, that’s just hilarious! What a wuss!
But on a more serious note, it is all too likely that the French—and other Westerners—are going to hear this puerile whining and take it as an actual sign of repentance, when it is anything but.
They may just decide that it is a lot more comfortable to wage violent Jihad against the filthy Kuffar “back home” in France.
Arthur says
I suspect that there are enough liberally-minded countries in Europe that a policy of reciprocity will develop, where no one takes back their own. Instead, France takes Britain’s jihadis and Sweden takes France’s, etc. This would allow them to save face and give in, all at the same time. A lot of background information could be expected to go missing in this swap.
change watch says
Apparently 200 have already returned to the UK. The media is full of stories trying to portray these nut jobs as confused teenagers. Don’t be suckered or softened, they are terrorists plain and simple. Keep spreading the truth, send everyone you know a copy of A Consequence of Apathy by NR Baldwin for Christmas, the truth is out there, its our moral responsibility to counter the dialogue of appeasement.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Consequence-Apathy-NR-Baldwin
Keith says
Yet they forget that what they are fighting for in Iraq/Syria is exactly what their fellow Jihadi’s want to impose on the western world.
Natalie says
BWW022, I don’t know what you mean by “even Israel dumps hundreds or thousands of these folks on the streets.” Israel isn’t dumping anyone on the streets. And it certainly isn’t involved with coddling jihadis, since jihad is an Islamic concept, not a Jewish one. You DON’T see the kind of terrorism involved in jihad committed in Israel by Jews — at most you see an occasional lunatic (i.e. severely mentally ill person) commit a crime, but they’re persecuted and punished for it.
The Buffster says
I’m guessing BWW022 is referring to the terrorist prisoners that Israel has set free in exchange for kidnap victims and Israeli soldiers held captive by Hamas.
I don’t think it numbers in the hundreds of thousands, though. Far from it – as far as I know.
Kepha says
Back in the Sillier ‘Seventies, young American radicals who griped about cutting the grass were all keen to join the Vinceremos Brigade to go to Cuba and help harvest sugarcane. They came back griping and disgruntled. Things haven’t changed in forty years.
I’d strongly recommend P.J. O’Rourke’s _Holidays in Hell_ and _Give War a Chance_. They are rather rather jaundiced views of several “Third World” revolutionary movements going on in the latter half of the 20th century and rather spot-on about the numerous very human foibles animating the revolutionary fighters.
duh_swami says
“I’m fed up. They make me do the washing up.”
Janitorial excellence….Allah makes huge messes everywhere he go’s. Someone has to do the clean up work. ISIS needs janitors…No sword for You Abu…You get a toilet brush and don’t you dare miss any brown stains. Allah demands janitorial excellence and you better give it to him. You should feel privileged that Allah even lets you follow him around with a broom and dustpan…
It’s true you won’t get any virgins that way, but you might get honorable mention…
Lia Wissing says
Simply publish these letters on the internet sites where the jihadists recruit.
The Buffster says
Every Muslim jihadi we can get off the streets is all to the good.
We have enough to worry about with the Sharia-pushers in our midst already.
A friend of mine in the USA – I’ll call her Carol – told me today that she was in Walmart, waiting in line to make a return. When it was her turn, the woman at the counter summoned her to come on up.
There was a Muslim family standing in line behind Carol (I assume she knew this from the way they were dressed), and he and his family pushed past her and went up to the counter. Carol would not be dhimmified! She marched right up to the man and got in front of him. The woman behind the counter told him to wait his turn.
Carol says that the man then tried to “put me in my place” so she told him to “go stand in line like the rest of us”. Then the bastard asked her where her husband was.
That said it all.
Carol told the counter clerk to call security, which she did, and the man glared at her the whole time, with his wife staring at the floor and the kids acting up. Carol felt threatened the whole time, but would not back down.
I had an experience here in Australia a couple of years ago when my husband and I were leaving the car park via a stairway, and a Muslim family – Father, mother covered head to toe in black – but with her face showing – and two boys, about 12 and 7 years of age – passed us on the stairs. The boys were between the dad and mom, with Mom bringing up the rear.
As they passed the older boy leaned in close to me and right in my face said something in what I assume was Arabic. He said it with the utmost of contempt, so I suspect he called me a “whore”. There was his mom covered in black sheets except for hands and face, and there I was in a brown summer dress to my knees, no sleeves, and a straw hat with a feather.
I just kept walking. But think of it – what made that boy think that it was okay to lean right into the face of a stranger and say something contemptuous? With his parents right there?
Well, I think we know.
E. Alexandra Pierce says
It was only a matter of time.
This is one of the most fundamental reasons why jihad won’t win in the end.
“The whole world should be Islam! I will go where Islam rules, and help it grow!”
Okay, buddy. Welcome to ISIS!
“But, um, this kind of sucks. But I’m sure it’s just because this place is oppressed by the Infidel lands I was raised in! Mom, Dad, I’m coming home, and bringing Jihad with me! We will subdue the western infidels and liberate the riches they hoard, and all will be Islam the way it’s meant to be!”
And when misery, oppression and squalor inevitably settles over the Islamified “infidel” nation…
“This still sucks. Maybe… just maybe… there are some problems with our doctrines…?”
It’s tragic that they’ll destroy so much and kill so many before finally waking up to that.
Jae M says
Great point. Careful what you wish for…you may just get it.
voegelinian says
It’s more tragic that the West won’t wake up in time to avoid several thousand, likely hundreds of thousands, if not a few million of its own men, women and children as it continues to think Muslims — all Muslims — are not trying to invade our societies in order to destroy them. And the pseudo-intelligent Westerners like E. Alexandra Pierce, who still wring their hands about our “bigotry” if we dare to be suspicious of “Moderate Muslims” like the sly snakes at the Quilliam Foundation, are one of the reasons why the West may well turn out to be unable to minimize such a slow-mo train wreck of a protracted catastrophe in the coming decades.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/sam-harris-my-criticism-of-islam-is-a-criticism-of-beliefs-but-my-fellow-liberals-reflexively-view-it-as-an-expression-of-intolerance/comment-page-1#comments
voegelinian says
Correction (added words in caps):
“It’s more tragic that the West won’t wake up in time to avoid THE MASSACRE BY MUSLIMS OF several thousand, likely hundreds of thousands, if not a few million of its own men, women and children …”
E. Alexandra Pierce says
You’re right, voeg. I do, indeed, think that people who go around saying that all Muslims living in the west are dastardly evil-doers determined to kill and subjugate us are bigots. Boy, you really got me there! **snicker**
cs says
Perhaps many millions.
Jeff says
“Can I come home now?” ….. You have no home here anymore.
Gail Griffin says
Made your bed now lie in it, me old mum used to say.