In Pakistan and elsewhere, Sunnis violently persecute Ahmadis as heretics and apostates. Yet in the West, Ahmadi spokesmen such as the viciously arrogant and spectacularly rude Qasim Rashid and the ostentatiously pious and unctuously reptilian Haris Zafar make a tidy living allying with their persecutors and aiding and abetting their sinister agenda by telling non-Muslim audiences what they want to hear — that Islam doesn’t actually have any of the doctrines that Sunnis invoke to persecute Ahmadis and others. And indeed, Ahmadi Islam doesn’t — but Rashid and Zafar don’t bother to mention to their marks that they represent a form of Islam that is held by an actual tiny minority, and one that is rejected by the mainstream and persecuted by it as heretical.
The only effect of their endless stream of articles and books purporting to prove that Islamic texts and teachings don’t actually contain material justifying violence and supremacism will be to render Infidels complacent and less likely to resist that violence and supremacism, or at least less likely to do so in any genuinely effective way. Ahmadi Muslims will continue to suffer because of the laws about apostasy, heresy and blasphemy that Rashid, Zafar and other Ahmadis deny exist instead of confronting and calling for genuine reform — but that doesn’t seem to trouble them.
“Man from Ahmadi religious minority killed in Pakistan after Muslim leader calls them ‘enemy,'” Reuters, December 27, 2014:
(Reuters) – Gunmen in eastern Pakistan shot dead a member of the Ahmadi religious minority on Saturday, an Ahmadi spokesman said, five days after a Muslim leader denounced Ahmadis on a popular Pakistani television talk show.
Luqman Ahad Shehzad was shot in the back of the head near Bhiri Shah Rehman village, a small community of Ahmadis in the Gujranwala district, said Saleem ud Din, the spokesman.
He is the eleventh person killed for being Ahmadi in Pakistan this year. Ahmadis consider themselves Muslim but believe that a prophet came after the Prophet Mohammed, who in Islam is revered as the last of God’s messengers.
In 1984, a Pakistani law declared them non-Muslims and made it possible to jail Ahmadis for “posing as a Muslim” or “offending a Muslim’s feelings”.
They are often denounced by Muslim leaders and targeted by violent extremists. Some clerics promise that killing Ahmadis earns the killer a place in heaven and distribute leaflets listing their home addresses.
On Monday, Muslim leader Syed Arif Shah Owaisi appeared on a popular morning television show hosted by Pakistani host Aamir Liaquat Hussain.
“This enemy is a common enemy and is an enemy of all of Pakistan. And this enemy is the sect of Qadiyani,” Owaisi said, using a derogatory term for Ahmadis. “They are the ones blaspheming against the holy prophet. All us Muslims should recognise that enemy.”
Blasphemy is punishable by death in Pakistan. Scores of people have been lynched after being accused of blasphemy….
Ayatrollah says
Wow. Giving out their address. How brave.
wallace says
Aw what a damn shame not nice to get zapped at Xmas, maybe St Peter will have a wee glass of mulled wine and a mince pie waiting at the Pearly Gates for him, Lets pray
Salah says
“Blasphemy is punishable by death in Pakistan. Scores of people have been lynched after being accused of blasphemy….”
Video (graphic)
The lynching of Ahmadis in Indonesia.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/02/indonesia-lynching.html
Angemon says
Salah posted:
“Video (graphic)
The lynching of Ahmadis in Indonesia.”
Meanwhile, indonesian islamic apologists would have us believe that Indonesia is “stopping them”:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/indonesia-muslim-group-warns-president-not-to-say-merry-christmas#comment-1168556
RonaldB says
The question is, why do the Ahmadiyyas continue to promote and defend Islam while being persecuted by majority Islam?
The answer is, because they’re Muslims. One of the key features of Islam is the complete denial of individual identity or individual rights. The Ahmadiyyas still consider the Koran to be the perfect book and Muhammad as the perfect man. It’s like Winston in “1984”, who saw five fingers when three were held up, because that’s what Big Brother told him to see.
Amadiyyas serve as a safety valve for Islamic hijra, or takeover by migration. Should everything go wrong, and a culture begin to actively defend itself, the Amadiyyas will become prominent, leading the protest against the idea that Islam itself is malevolent. The Amadiyyas who die at the hands of fellow-muslims are shahids (martyrs) the same as the suicide bombers. To them, any deaths, distortions, or accusations are worth the ultimate goal: the spread and triumph of Islam.
Any ban on Muslim immigration must include the “peaceful” sects such as the Amadiyyas and the Ismailis. These “reformed” Muslims advocate the teaching of Islam in public schools, the widespread use of halal meats, the suppression of anti-Islamic facts, and especially oppose any proposed limits on Muslim immigration.
Amadiyya women may or may not be faintly better off than their female counterparts in the Islamic mainstream:
http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/12/religion/83022/attachment/ahmadiyya-women-canada
There is no doubt, however, that the idolization of Muhammad and the sanctification of the Koran in Ahmadi teachings will lead straight back to jihad and the push for sharia law.
IQ al Rassooli says
Dear RonaldB
Without being condescending, your comment is one of the few most articulate and pertinent about this subject that I have so far read
In a NUTSHELL as you so clearly pointed out: ALL Muslims must DECEIVE ALL none Muslims to bring the abyss of Sharia upon ALL of humanity no matter what the cost
BRAVO!
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Huck Folder says
Let me concur. Years ago, I followed a thread from UK ahmadis, where they dissected the Genocide of the Banu Qurayza over many thousands of words, and with unctuous agreement from the comment choir. I think I commented on the cold-blooded murder of those possibly as young as 10 or 11, and as old as 70, and collective punishment.
They were totally, 100% behind murderer mo.
Karma is not an islamic concept, but it is biting those those bastards in the tush, just the same. Karma 1, islam 0.
particolor says
” EXTERMINATE ! “..” EXTERMINATE !!”…….
Jay Boo says
particolor
There is no need to exterminate.
Islam is just an evil buffoonery built on a shallow foundation.
REVEAL
particolor says
Toss Me a Goat !! I’m feeling Horny !!
Libyan Jihad says
You infidels dream of a plaque hitting Muslims and killing them all, why should we spare Christians living next to us then? I’ve seen many absurd ideas in this site that you Jihadwatchers support but none of you has the means or the mettle to implement any of them, the Muslims whom you call cowards had the mettle to establish the Islamic State in spite of the whole world being against them and how absurd it sounds to you.
Jacksonl03 says
” . . . the Muslims . . . had the mettle to establish the Islamic State in spite of the whole world being against them . . . ”
And I take from this you are proud of the murderous mayhem, the obscene treatment of men, women and children, the asinine implementation of Sharia rules, the uprooting of established cultures, the theft of treasure that accompanies IS’s takeover of territories.
You strike me as one sick dog, M’man. Mettle? It reads more like ignorant greed and deliberate cruelty to me.
particolor says
What makes us Infidels You Freak !! Stay in Your own Country and we wont come near You Promise !!.
Without Western Infidel Equipment you would still be Milking Goats in the Desert !!.
You want the TRUTH ? We don’t give a Burnt Offering about You Ungrateful Ignoramuses !!..
You are Blood Sucking Leeches !!..
Go and read Your Qur’an ! It will fill You with more Hate than is already in Your Genes !!..
Have a Nice Day !!
Jay Boo says
Libyan Jihad
I don’t advocate a plague against Muslims nor do I support the Nuke solution.
Muslims are no different than anyone else without Islam’s stupidity.
Your brothers will kill gay men in honor of Allah yet they kiss each other on the cheek in remembrance of what Muhammad did with little Hasan.
What am I referring to about little Hasan?
If you do not already know about this —
then don’t ask because you really don’t want to know.
Know Thy Enemy says
@Libyan Jihad
You mean a “plague”. A plague is already on you. It is called Islam!
Ernie says
Mr. Libyan Jihad , you (muslim) infidels dream of a plague hitting and killing all non muslims . Well , you are that plague yourself . YOU ARE THE AGRESSORS . You are projecting sir . You blame the victims of your sick dreams /actions the world over . You’re a mentally deranged , sick , bunch of rapists , murderers , thiefs , robbers ,parasites , oppressors , etc. You are the most evil creatures living on this earth . SO PLEASE , DON’T LECTURE ME . YOU DON’T HAVE THE MORAL HIGHGROUND .
particolor says
And that was a Character Reference !!
Ernie says
Mr. Libyan Jihad , you are a MEGALOMANIAC .
duh_swami says
You infidels dream of a plaque hitting Muslims and killing them all, why should we spare Christians living next to us then?
I suspect then, you personally are doing your duty and killing Christians. How many have you killed this week? Any baby’s?
I don’t dream of killing Mahoundians directly or indirectly, unless I get attacked first. But if you come around here looking to kill Christians or anyone, and accidentally find me first expect to be pushing up daises, or long term hospitalization…Allah willing, and he will be in that case.
Phil says
In psychiatry we call this projection – imputing your baser desires and motives upon other people to absolve yourself of any moral responsibility. The West does not have any desire to slaughter your co-religionists – why should we? Your people are doing a fine job of suicidal slaughter as it is. Has there ever been a serious proposal that the West would commit mass slaughter of muslims? It’s not as if we don’t have the technology to do so – but we don’t have a culture that condones mass slaughter. (And please spare me the inflated death toll from Iraq – the overwhelming majority of deaths were due to muslim-on-muslim violence; and nothing the West did comes close to the death toll decades of Ba’athist slaughter created…lets not forget the Iran-Iraq War please). We’ve had 1400 years of self-serving rationalizations from the dar al-Islam – the Ahmadiyas are only the latest. It’s a pity – I’m quite fond of some Ahmadis personally, but I’m not open to phony muslim apologetics.
Having said that, Westerners have a right to protect their culture (and their persons) from muslim attacks.
duh_swami says
You infidels dream of a plaque hitting Muslims and killing them all, why should we spare Christians living next to us then?
Killing people for dreaming…How dare those Christians dream? Kill them before they dream something important…Divine Islamic logic at work…
duh_swami says
In psychiatry we call this projection – imputing your baser desires and motives upon other people to absolve yourself of any moral responsibility.
Yes Phil that is right, except for one thing…Allah in all his wisdom already absolved them of moral responsibility in Quran 8:17, where He says, ‘You didn’t kill them Allah killed them.
No one is guilty…Allah thinks of everything…
Mirren10 says
Those Daleks scared me to death when I was little !
particolor says
And now that Your BIG they Petrify You ?? No,Yes ??
albert says
Why is it that the United Nations can find time to condemn the Israelis for fighting terrorism and defending themselves against Hamas yet we never hear them complain about Muslim nations murdering their own citizens.
IQ al Rassooli says
Excellent question albert
The answer is because the UN is 28% ISLAMIC who BOUGHT votes from another 50% allowing the UN to be part and parcel of Islamic Jihad against the West & Israel
WHY would Ban Ki Moon be more interested in the alleged plight of the so called palestinians without ONCE addressing the EXTERMINATION of Christians in Muslim lands? Same question with the same answer: ALL have been purchased with billions of petro dollars
Another even more disturbing question is: Why is pope Francis allying himself with “PISSFUL Islam”?
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Jay Boo says
IQ al Rassooli , I suspect that Pope Francis believes in the concept that Muslims will act nicer if we raise the bar and praise them as if they are already in hopes that this might make them behave better.
Pope Francis is using child psychology 101
Will it work?
Who knows?
duh_swami says
Francis seems to be using B.F. Skinners behavior modification idea of rewarding good behavior and ignoring the bad. That has been tried for years in mental institutions, with marginal results.
That doesn’t work with Mahoundians because they don’t do bad behavior.
Jay Boo says
albert,
That is an interesting point about the UN
“we never hear them complain about Muslim nations murdering their own citizens.”
I believe that the Ahmadis don’t consider Muhammad the final prophet.
The UN apparently considers this enough of an excuse for Sunnis to kill them.
Therefore the UN should have absolutely no problem with Christians killing all Muslims on the planet for claiming Muhammad as their last prophet after Jesus Christ assuming that the UN is concerned about not being hypocritical.
particolor says
And another thing You never hear …Queeny …My Husband and I are Appalled at the Anus Horribilus Besetting our Country…
katarzyna says
Pakistani Daleks at work again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0n88tZQc4Q
thanks to Daniel Greenfield „Now [I] know what’s wrong with the country”
Gary Fouse says
Once you get them to admit how they are persecuted in Pakistan (and by whom) the rest of their presentations may as well be from Faisal Abdul Rauf. They adhere strictly to the party line.
Larry A. Singleton says
Anybody else have problems commenting on Reuter’s fascist websites? Apparently their “sign in” is totally dysfunctional. And they’ve blocked me on their Facebook page.
particolor says
I just received a Message ! A lot of Sites have been Hacked and User Names and Passwords taken !! Hope that Helps !!..
particolor says
PS.. news.com.au…. Try that !!
Larry A. Singleton says
Thanks.
(I wish I didn’t have to keep putting my name and email every time I post.)
particolor says
Yep !! It gets up Your nose like Halalled Vegemite Sandwich Doesn’t it ??..
particolor says
PS.. Get a Rubber Stamp made ..He! He !!
jay says
The same of Sufi Islam. It’s what Obama and his posse of morons want to try to introduce to ‘cut down’ extremism ignoring the fact that less than 1% of muslims practice it and those that do are hunted down and labeled as blasphemers by the 99%. It’s like suggesting that all Christians become Mennonites, it’s not gonna happen.
duh_swami says
FOX often has on Zafar and the other slick taqiyya artist the ‘moderate’ Dr Jasser. No one seriously challenges them.
The church burners were a day late, but not a dollar short mission accomplished..