This shows the incoherence of the French understanding of the jihad threat. Prime Minister Valls says that the jihad was created by France’s “ethnic apartheid.” But these soldiers were in the French military — is it also beset by “apartheid”?
Anyway, the source says: “Our concern is not former soldiers… It’s preventing the phenomenon of radicalisation with our forces.” Are they going to stop them from reading the Qur’an?
“A dozen former French soldiers waging jihad: defence source,” AFP, January 21, 2015:
A dozen ex-French soldiers have joined jihadist groups in Iraq and Syria, raising concerns over the possible existence of radical elements within the military, a defence ministry source said Wednesday.
“We estimate at around a dozen the number of former troops who have joined these networks,” the source, who wished to remain anonymous, said.
“Our concern is not former soldiers… It’s preventing the phenomenon of radicalisation with our forces,” the source added.
Defence Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian refused to comment directly on the affair.
“The cases of former soldiers being tempted by jihadism are extremely rare,” he told a press conference to announce new anti-terrorism measures in the wake of the recent attacks in Paris.
The military’s 1,000-strong internal intelligence unit will get 65 extra staff to help vet and track recruits more closely, the ministry announced.
The army’s biggest fear is that rogue soldiers could turn their weapons on their comrades or use their combat and explosives know-how to carry out attacks.
RFI radio reported that most of the soldiers-turned-jihadists, whose ranks included former special forces and Foreign Legion members, had joined the Islamic State group.
One was commanding a group of French recruits that he had trained in northeast Syria, the radio added.
“Others are explosives experts,” RFI said, adding that the fighters were mostly in their twenties.
According to L’Opinion newspaper, one combatant had served in the elite 1st Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment.
After five years of service the soldier joined a private security firm protecting oil fields in the Arabian peninsula, the paper reported in its online edition.
“That’s where he progressively became radicalised, growing a beard and subscribing to Islamist ideology,” added L’Opinion, which quoted unnamed sources as saying he was fired and then travelled to Syria….
Peter Buckley says
Good. Let them go. Just don’t let them back in. If all Western countries adopted this simple policy, these clowns would indeed be rendered “stateless” in no-man’s land. Simples……
Canadian Patriot says
I agree with Peter. If they are so in love with Islam, let them go to one of the God-forsaken Islamic states and live there. Why bother chasing after them, wasting resources, risking other soldiers’ lives, wasting the tax-payers’ money? Let them go and live in Islamic “paradise” lol
Salah says
@ Canadian Patriot
I too agree with Peter. But, unfortunately, they can’t do that. International laws don’t allow it. The biggest jihad enablers entities (the UN and the EU) won’t allow it.
Laws need to change and adapt. The UN and the EU must be dismantled.
Peter Buckley says
It’s about to happen:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/majority-of-british-public-wants-to-leave-eu-8352904.html
Salah says
@ Peter Buckley
Thanks for the link, Peter. It only takes one country to show the lead and the whole EU will fall apart. The EU has destroyed the identities of each and every one of its members. It’s an evil entity.
The Next step should be the UN.
Angemon says
“Drian? It’s Valls”
“Oui, Prime-Minister?”
“What’s this I’ve heard about former French soldiers joining the islamic state?”
“Nothing to worry about, Mr. Prime-Minister. I had a team investigate it.”
“And?”
“They interrogated all their fellow muslim soldiers and the people at the mosques they went. No one knows who they are, no one has seen them there, and no one knows where they got this radical interpretation of islam. Must be somewhere on the internet.”
“C’est la vie. Are any of the other muslim soldiers checking out radical sites on the internet?”
“I don’t know.”
“What do you mean, you don’t know?”
“Well, we tried looking into it, but a muslim civil rights group threated to go public and accuse us of islamophobia, prejudice and racism. Our only option is to monitor all soldiers equally.”
“Are you doing that?”
“No, sir, we don’t have the manpower.”
“Oh well. Escargots at six?”
“Of course, Prime Minister.”
Rob says
How did the migrant-origin police officer gunned down outside the Hebdo office get his job in the face of that apartheid and discrimination?
Migration is an opportunity – not a right.
mortimer says
Someone should calculate the global cost of having Muslims in a Western country. The cost will be found to be much greater than any benefit.
We should stop allowing Muslims into the military and stop importing them, since their loyalty is to the supranational Ummah, rather than to a secular state.
BARRY says
I do not know the global cost of having Muslims in a Western country. But I do know a few statistics that will help in this discussion.
In Denmark, Muslims make up 5% of the population, but receive 40% of social-welfare expenditures! Why bring in more?
In Germany, Turks have an unemployment rate of 23%. Being unemployed, they must be receiving welfare. This is an enormous unemployment rate! Why bring in more?
In Sweden, 60% of the nation’s welfare expenditures, go to immigrants! Why bring in more?
The sensible solution is to prevent more Muslims from coming to Europe in the first place; a common sense solution that escapes the mental capacity of pandering European politicians.
As more Muslims means more welfare, so likewise, less Muslims mean less welfare. And welfare is paid out of taxes confiscated from the groaning taxpayers, who didn’t want the Muslims there in the first place.
This is like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer. All you need do is stop.
SpiritOf1683 says
On top of that, Muslims account for over two thirds of the rapes in Scandinavian countries and make up 70% of the prison population in France.
mortimer says
Traitors should lose their rights of residency and citizenship. France needs a penal colony like Devil’s Island where terrorists can be warehoused and kept for life if they are unable to find a country to take them.
John Smith says
That’s an excellent idea, Mortimer.
Seeing how they are all mohammedan nuts I doubt they will ever think of building a boat. They would have to subjugate a more advanced civilisation to reach that “Islamic Golden Age” level of knowledge. Don’t you know moslems discovered the Americas first, I know President Erdogan told me.
Truth Seeker says
It seems Europe is bent upon get subjugated by Islam.
Jen says
This is why countries cannot allow Muslims in the army or any other position of authority. They’re potential weak links which any military could simply do without. But if you implement policies which discriminate against Muslims, and they are still resident within your borers; you can expect rioting on their part. They’re not likely to take it sitting down. Oh well says some. Non-Muslims in western countries are just “collateral damage” while we babysit them until they stop acting like savages and pedophile lovers. If they don’t stop; we’ll lose our countries to them in a way which will be irreversible for a very long time, if it ever is recoverable. But who cares right?
There are those who are probably genuinely naive about Muslim behaviour, but there are others such as former Muslims who may hold a weak spot for Muslims and who don’t want their own family deported or have any “harsh” measures placed against Muslims because part of their family is still Muslim; even if they’re not. Not all former Muslims will be of a great help. Those people should be told to pick a side. There’s no beating around the bush about this any longer. The idea that non-Muslim countries should tolerate people worshiping a god who calls for killing us all is quite ridiculous.
SpiritOf1683 says
Exactly. We know only too well what happened at Fort Hood.
Michael Copeland says
“he … became radicalized … subscribing to Islamist ideology”. This is the current sound bite for parrots.
When that “radicalizing” Islamist ideology is examined it is found to be identical with Islam. These smoke screens of “radicalising”, “extremism”, and “Islamism” were devised to take the spotlight off Islam.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6183-extremism-there-is-a-problem-within-islam
Aton says
You cannot have Muslims in your military or police force. They don’t work for us. They have another agenda entirely.
You will either get Fort Hood-style massacres, or you will get characters like Ali Dizaei who ran a police department in London purely for his own gain and gratification. In effect, Dizaei had set up his own ‘protection racket’ private police force, that hid behind claims of ‘racial discrimination’ every time he was investigated for misconduct.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099377/Ali-Dizaei-Met-chief-GUILTY-misconduct-perverting-course-justice.html
supajohnny says
These socialist governments in the West like France, USA, Canada, Germany and Britain are taking us headlong into a new age…OF DARKNESS, by their cowardice towards Islam and, indeed, their treacherous complicity.
Scotty says
The last time the French faced an enemy this determined they also surrendered, some collaborated and the majority spent five years serving wine, chess and their women folk to the Germans….. and who says history never repeats.?
JeffS says
I wouldn’t single out the French in this regard. Many in the entire West and beyond are trying to surrender, but we should keep doing all we can to not let them.
Don says
The joys of multicultural forces.