You can be absolutely sure: whenever the mainstream media raises the question of whether or not Islam is a Religion of Peace, it will answer that it is, and claim that Muslims are victims of unjust suspicion. But this CNN piece is particularly grotesque: after Muslims murder twelve people for transgressing Islam’s blasphemy laws, and four more for being Jewish, CNN gives us “Muslims cannot get a break.” Can Infidels get a break? Or will there just be more and more jihad, and then more and more denial, half-truth and obfuscation from the mainstream media?
More below.
“After Paris attacks, 7 questions being asked about Islam,” by Daniel Burke, CNN, January 11, 2015:
(CNN)Paris.Nigeria. Pakistan. Australia. Somalia. Turkey. Iraq. Canada.
All are sites that suffered attacks committed by Muslim extremists in recent months. Expand the time frame, and the list lengthens.
Even as the vast majority of Muslims condemn terrorism, the frequency and cruelty of the assaults have led many people to ask sharp questions about Islam.
Here are some that seem to be on a lot of minds.
1. Does Islam encourage violence?
Many Muslims bristle at mere hint of this idea, noting that there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, most of whom live peaceful and productive lives.
Here is another example of the perennial confusion: Burke asks the question, “Does Islam encourage violence?,” and then starts talking about Muslims. The fact that some Muslims live peaceful and productive lives does absolutely nothing to answer the question of whether Islam encourages violence. The only way to answer that is to examine the texts and teachings of Islam. Burke is arguing that most Muslims aren’t violent, therefore Islam doesn’t encourage violence. But human beings have all kinds of motives and influences. The Catholic Church, for example, forbids contraception. Yet surveys show that most Catholics contracept. Would Burke then argue that because most Catholics contracept, therefore the Catholic Church encourages contraception?
Here’s how Muslim human rights lawyer Arsalan Iftikhar responded on CNN after the attack that killed 12 in Paris on Wednesday.
‘Irreligious criminals committing acts of mass murder’ 03:51CNN is not the only news outlet raising this question, by the way. The New York Times explored the link between Islam and violence in a front-page article on Thursday.
I’ll get to that one soon.
Iftikhar and other Muslims note that almost every faith, from Christianity to Judaism to Hinduism to Buddhism, has produced acts of terrorism.
People of all faiths have committed acts of terrorism. But here again, what exactly do these faiths teach about violence against unbelievers?
Think about it this way: If you were a Jew during the Inquisition in Spain, would you think that Christianity is inherently violent?
Probably. But why is Christian history not full of Spanish Inquisitions? Could it be because such things had no basis in Christian texts and teachings?
Scholars say there is rarely a direct link between religious beliefs and violent behavior. Instead, terrorism is generally caused by a complex web of factors. (More on that later.)
Actually, Islamic jihadists regularly cite Qur’anic texts and Muhammad’s example to justify violence and supremacism.
But there’s no escaping this fact: The number of attacks committed by self-proclaimed Muslims has risen sharply in recent years.
Those attacks have led some critics to argue that Islam is inherently violent. To make their case they point to the so-called “Sword Verse” in the Quran as Exhibit A.
Here’s what the verse says:
“Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way.”
Raymond Ibrahim, an author and frequent critic of Islam, argues that, based largely on that verse, “Islam’s learned officials, sheikhs, muftis, and imams throughout the ages have all reached consensus — binding on the entire Muslim community — that Islam is to be at perpetual war with the non-Muslim world until the former subsumes the latter.”
Burke gives the impression that this whole idea is based on that one Qur’an verse, when in fact there are plenty of other verses that enjoin violence. He also gives the impression that Raymond Ibrahim is the one who came up with this idea, apparently without the slightest effort to determine what “Islam’s learned officials, sheikhs, muftis, and imams throughout the ages” actually say about warfare against unbelievers.
Many Muslims scoff at that argument, noting that the vast majority of Muslims are clearly not warring with other religions. But this verse has been exploited by extremist groups like ISIS, who say that Muslims have a sacred duty to “kill the disbelievers.“
Again: the fact that the vast majority of Muslims aren’t warring against unbelievers has no bearing on whether or not Islam teaches them to do so.
Mainstream Muslim leaders, however, say that both Islamic critics and extremists rip the “sword verse” from its historical context.
“This verse cannot be taken as a carte blanche execution order on all non-Muslims,” Yasir Qadhi, a conservative Muslim-American cleric, explained in a lecture in Memphis last month.
The Quranic passage applies only to pagans in Islam’s Arabian birthplace, he said.
“There’s no sugar-coating it, it’s a threat,” said Qadhi, who has a large following in the United States. “It was meant to scare people, and that’s why paganism disappeared from the Arabian Peninsula.”…
Actually there is a significant tradition in Islam that holds that the Verse of the Sword and other violent verses take precedence over more peaceful verses, and are the ones that are valid for all time, while the peaceful verses are those that have only limited application. Muhammad’s first biographer, the eighth-century Muslim Ibn Ishaq, explains the progression of Qur’anic revelation about warfare. First, he explains, Allah allowed Muslims to wage defensive warfare. But that was not Allah’s last word on the circumstances in which Muslims should fight. Ibn Ishaq explains offensive jihad by invoking a Qur’anic verse: “Then God sent down to him: ‘Fight them so that there be no more seduction,’ i.e. until no believer is seduced from his religion. ‘And the religion is God’s’, i.e. Until God alone is worshipped.” The Qur’an verse Ibn Ishaq quotes here (2:193; cf. also 8:39) commands much more than defensive warfare: Muslims must fight until “the religion is God’s” — that is, until Allah alone is worshipped.
The great medieval scholar Ibn Qayyim (1292-1350) also outlines the stages of the Muhammad’s prophetic career: “For thirteen years after the beginning of his Messengership, he called people to God through preaching, without fighting or Jizyah, and was commanded to restrain himself and to practice patience and forbearance. Then he was commanded to migrate, and later permission was given to fight. Then he was commanded to fight those who fought him, and to restrain himself from those who did not make war with him. Later he was commanded to fight the polytheists until God’s religion was fully established.”
In other words, he initially could fight only defensively — only “those who fought him” — but later he could fight the polytheists until Islam was “fully established.” He could fight them even if they didn’t fight him first, and solely because they were not Muslim.
Nor do all contemporary Islamic thinkers believe that that command is a relic of history. According to a 20th century Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh ‘Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Humaid, “at first ‘the fighting’ was forbidden, then it was permitted and after that it was made obligatory.” He also distinguishes two groups Muslims must fight: “(1) against them who start ‘the fighting’ against you (Muslims) . . . (2) and against all those who worship others along with Allah . . . as mentioned in Surat Al-Baqarah (II), Al-Imran (III) and At-Taubah (IX) . . . and other Surahs (Chapters of the Qur’an).” (The Roman numerals after the names of the chapters of the Qur’an are the numbers of the suras: Sheikh ‘Abdullah is referring to Qur’anic verses such as 2:216, 3:157-158, 9:5, and 9:29.)
3. How do many Muslims feel right now?
In a word: frustrated.
This email from a longtime, Muslim-American source pretty well sums up the sentiment:
“Muslims cannot get a break. Every (expletive) day there must be an event to suggest Islam is inherently violent. Such acts destroy years of goodwill and work about Islam.”
Compounding these feelings of frustration, many Muslims say, is the implication that all Muslims shoulder the blame for terroristic attacks, or aren’t doing enough to denounce them.
Both are wrong. All Muslims don’t bear the blame for terroristic attacks; only those who commit them do. And Muslim denunciations of terror attacks are plentiful; what there are absolutely none of are Muslim efforts to teach other Muslims why they should reject the “extremist” understanding of Islam on Islamic grounds.
Daniel Haqiqatjou, of the website Muslim Matters, wrote one of the wittiest responses to this idea on Friday, sarcastically suggesting that what Muslims really need is an “iCondemn app.”
On a more serious note, recent surveys show that large majorities of Muslims around the world are increasingly concerned about Islamic extremism.
Large numbers of Muslims around the world also want Sharia, the imposition of which is also the goal of jihad activity.

citycat says
Islamic terrorists are not Muslims.
So ditch your Islamophobic notions.
We’re the real Muslims, breeding for Allah,
Until we can really take you over
Suresh Ruparel says
What kind of thinking is this that you wana take over world n bring Shariah implementation is this not brutality been practiced just answer this much who give you this right 2U do any such Authority dictates SICK MINDS N THOUGHTS IN YOU REFLECT BY YOUR PREACHINGS.
Roha Waha says
I do not accept your premise that theses are not ” the real Muslims ” for several reasons. 1. I have verified my self that the justifications they use for murderous crimes are quoted correctly from the Qur’an,Sunna and the Hadiths. 2. These crimes are not plotted in a vacuum, the Muslims planning murder go to the same Mosques and they are known to you, the real or peaceful Muslims make no effort
to stop them, they are complicit an accessory to murder. There have been many Pugh polls of Muslims that prove a majority of Muslims support approve and condone this murderous jihad.
I reject what you say as utterly false !
Mirren10 says
Citycat was being sarcastic.
eib says
All the more to be destroyed, more of your graves to be dug. There is no hope, no place, for the ummah in the West. Reason will destroy your passion.
Alexander says
Keep your taqiyya, your support of racism, pedophilia, domestic violence, rape, murder, genocide, for yourself and your friends. You might not be all terrorist, but you know very well that the good muslims are the terrorists, because they follow your “holy” scriptures literally. Take over or not take over, these are CRIMES, not cultural differences. Civil rights are for civil people, if ISLAM because of what it is produced nothing but violence and destruction in 1400 years, well get over it. It is NOT the infidels’ fault, it is YOUR fault, YOUR religion keeps you retarded for submission. I understand how jealous you all are, you leave your beautifully islamic, barren, and violent countries and see that THANKS TO the absence of ISLAM the rest of the world is light years ahead of you, well this is YOUR problem, not ours. Even if you have muslim terrorists in the White House, We, the People, do not give a damn about your pedophile prophet and your devil-god. Get over it, and remember: if you don’t like it, NOBODY is forcing you to stay.
gordon miller says
Islam is a religion and ideology of intolerance, hate, violence, and war. All jihadists are Muslims. There is no other kind.
Joginder Singh says
Rewrite pedophile mohammad’s quran minus the bullshit and anything against nonbelievers or those of us with more intelligence than to submit to pedophile mohammad’s delusions and you would be left with a book of blank pages
somehistory says
They don’t *get it* and even with good explanations, still won’t because most wish to remain blind to the truth.
The image of the beast is alive and going strong…for now.
(Rev.13).
citycat says
” and his number was six hundred threescore and six”
was in an old KJ OT- NUMBERS- describing malachi
in a new KJ SIX IS changed to seven
somehistory says
I wasn’t aware. I usually don’t read from KJ because of the archaic language. You know, like “Jacob sod pottage,” which causes me to have to consult a translation with words we usually use.
But, thanks for letting me know. Will check it out.
BC says
The KJ stuff is unintelligible to me and I am sure others. Please explain what you are talking about
bobm says
try the NKJ… new King James.. it is a solid, clear and well formed version.. much better than other versions..
Michael Copeland says
The “mark of the Beast” in Revelation appeared on the foreheads and the hands of his followers. It is referred to also as “the number of the Beast”, and is six hundred, three score (3 x 20), and six, that is to say, 666 in what we term Arabic numerals.
Interestingly Greek has a convention, rather like Latin’s Roman Numerals, of utilising letters of the Greek alphabet to denote numbers. The Greek letters that express 666 are, from left to right, Chi, Xi, and Sigma. Revelation was a vision that came to John the Divine: he described what he saw using the Greek terms familiar to him. Those same three letters, when read from right to left by an Arabic reader, are very similar indeed to Bismillah (in the name of Allah), followed by the crossed sword symbol of Islam, as used by the Muslim Brotherhood. The centre letter needs to be turned on to its “side”, but this is not unusual in Arabic logos.
See this 6 min. video:
Walid Shoebat – Mark of the Beast – YouTube
► 6:55► 6:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtquNNEO7Fw
•
http://www.1913intel.com/2012/08/20/going-from-greek-666-to-in-the-name-of-allah-2/
particolor says
Please explain Years and Goodwill about Islam ?? Before I can comment !!..
Is it about strapping Bombs onto Little Girls to Murder INNOCENT People ??..
They are VERY SICK People !!
Cunamarra says
It means years of deceptive propaganda that has convinced the kuffar and mushrikun that Islam is a benign and great faith. Each act of Jihad might alarm a few more kuffar to take steps to protect themselves before the Ummah is strong enough to nullify any effective resistance. Shortly after the World Trade Center attack a Muslim convenience store owner told me he disagreed with what Osama bin Ladin had done because it made Islam look bad. This response has always troubled me and I’ve always seen it as a moral and intellectual perversion. A year later I read a copy of the Koran for the first time. Every news paper article, Time and Newsweek magazine article, every high school and college textbook, Eaters of the Dead, every teacher except one high school World History teacher, had told me that Islam was an extremely tolerant and peaceful religion that resembled Christianity and even Buddhism in many ways. When I purchased that Koran I was sure this was all largely true but there had to be something that the Muslims were getting wrong or twisted. After reading the Koran, I realized that what I had been taught about Islam for 25 years from every popular source had been a grotesque and obvious lie. Deception is an integral part of Islam, so much so that it would be something different without it. I believe that that 25 years is what he is referring to.
SpiritOf1683 says
Yes, 30 or 40 years of deceptive propaganda has been enough to make the West forget about more than 13 centuries of warfare against the infidel. People in the West have that stupid notion that the Middle East has always been Muslim and seem to forget that it is the cradle of Christianity, and was conquered by Muslims during the 7th Century, and that without the likes of Martel, the West would have suffered the same fate. They’ve probably forgotten where Jesus was born, and that his birthplace probably has a 5% Christian population at most, with the surrounding area closer to 1%.
Don Ryan says
The definition of a radical Muslim is one who believes in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, children’s rights and equality of women
G179 says
Meanwhile, a huge anti-terrorism rally with the participation of world leaders is to take place today. al abbas and turkey’s pm are coming. Seems more like a mafia funeral.
Ernie says
Disgusting show of the political establishment leaders ; utilizing the average (misinformed) citizens for their own political agenda . ( Ab )using the victims of these jihadi attacks for political means . So disgusting !
Ernie says
Netanyahu is o.k.
Smart Guy says
Protestantism means following the Bible as God’s Word as opposed to Roman Catholicism which means accepting the Pope as the Vicar of Christ. Following the Gospel has led to the reformation of Christianity, a christianity that is more obedient to Jesus teachings. Now all religions have holy writings so that instead of needing a priest we can read the Holy writings. If you are a Moslem then their Holy book is the Koran.
If the Koran condones murdering non believers and waging Holy War against non-belivers then that is what is required for believing Moslems.
Jay Boo says
Smart Guy is a Muslim and —-
“A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.”
1 First, Smart Guy tries stir up conflict between Protestants and Roman Catholicism.
2 Next, Smart Guy makes a point use the word “their” Koran by jumping from 2nd to 3rd person pronoun.
He said— ” If you are a Moslem then their Holy book is the Koran.
(— This is a red flag as if to say “no Muslims to see here.”)
3 Finally, he tries to sneak-in some jihad proselytizing with:
“If the Koran condones murdering non believers and waging Holy War against non-believers then that is what is required for believing Moslems.”
Ernie says
Smart Guy isn’t smart at all Jay Boo , you caught him ! Well done !
Mirren10 says
Actually, this time, Smart Guy is quite correct.
”Protestantism is a religious movement that encompasses forms of Christian faith and practice that originated with doctrines and religious, political, and ecclesiological impulses of the Protestant Reformation, against what they considered the errors of the Roman Catholic Church.[1] The term refers to the letter of protestation by Lutheran princes against the decision of the Diet of Speyer in 1529, which reaffirmed the edict of the Diet of Worms condemning the teachings of Martin Luther as heresy.[2]
The Protestant movement has its origins in present-day Germany and is popularly considered to have begun in 1517 when Luther published The Ninety-Five Theses as a reaction against medieval doctrines and practices, especially with regard to salvation, justification, and ecclesiology.[3] **The various Protestant denominations share a rejection of the universal authority of the pope** (my emphasis: Mirren) and generally deny the Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation, although they disagree among themselves about the doctrine of Christ’s presence in the Eucharist.[4] They generally emphasize the priesthood of all believers, the doctrine of justification by faith alone (sola fide) apart from good works, and a belief in the Bible alone (rather than with Roman Catholic tradition) as the supreme authority in matters of faith and morals (sola scriptura)” Wiki.
Smart Guy also says:
”If you are a Moslem then their Holy book is the Koran.
If the Koran condones murdering non believers and waging Holy War against non-belivers then that is what is required for believing Moslems.”
I don’t believe Smart Guy is being, or attempting to be, tendentious here. He is simply stating a postulation.
SpiritOf1683 says
Innocent preople are only fellow Muslims. Infidels are to be subjugated, slaughtered in cold blood, enslaved, or live as dhimmies according to the Koran. Lying doesn’t cut any ice here. We know about the Devshirme system, where Christian children were kidnapped from their families and forced into becoming slave soldiers or concubines. That cruel system was only ended for infidels when Europe struck back and drove the Turks back with sheer force from 1683 right up until 1913, and Balkan Christians finally shrugged off living as rayahs.
Ernie says
“Smart Guy” ??? More “Stupid Guy”.
Jay Boo says
“And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
Dan Franzmann says
‘And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.’
Clearly warning followers to be prepared to know the difference between true and false teachings.
But wait, that kind of talk will just ‘stir up conflict’.
There you have our problem.
moses says
The bible clearly describes Islam as a beast coming out of a land with many waters (middle east) and those who oppose it could be killed using beheadings clearly this is what we are seeibg in the last days.
Maria says
Cartoons who drew Muhammad were targeted and killed and CNN asks a Muslima about “Islamophobia. Jews were targeted and killed an CNN worried about “Islomophobia” and the raise of the “far right”…not the rise of Islamic terrorists.
Steffen Larsen says
Much the same in Denmark: media are awash in the compassion and mercy of Islam, they-are-not-true-Muslims, the-extreme-right-is-taking-advantage-of-it, backlash, backlash, backlash and self-pity…..
People in general know very little about Islam and their arguments are easily destroyed by Muslims and apologists.. Unfortunately, those who DO talk loudly are sometimes the “burn all mosques, kille the muzzies” kind, and it only takes a few of them for fingers to point the other way.
Silvia says
Robert, why are you forgetting the murdered police woman the day before??? It’s like it didn’t happen. That poor police woman might very well have prevented a big massacre in a school.
shelly says
I am a little tired of hearing what scholars say.. whether its a scholar from Islam or Christianity, acting like it came from a scholars mouth we must listen, it must be true. Sorry but us blue collar people do not need the scholars of Islam or Christianity to tell us what to believe. We are the people working and living it. Not the scholars on the outside. Not the politicians. We are the people. Its about time we have a say.
SpiritOf1683 says
What a pity you don’t live in Syria at this very moment. Ungratefuls like yourself, who show no gratitude whatsoever towards those 50 generations who fought the Jihadis for the freedoms you abuse deserve no betrer.
duh_swami says
I’m so sorry that Mahoundians suffer so, but it’s not my fault, it’s Allah and his
‘Pen of Destiny’ that are doing it. I didn’t write this script, Allah did it, so why am I to blame? Predestination is torturing the ummah not kuffar. Sometimes inshallah is a btch. The ummah is not exempt.
CNN is causing the ummah to suffer even more by calling their attention to their suffering, and then dwelling on it. CNN is rubbing sand in the wounds because that’s the way THE PEN wrote it at the beginning of time. Mahoundians must suffer…’so it is written, so mote it be’…Inshallah…
I had nothing to do with that…I just happen to know about it.
John Mustart South Africa. says
The inquisition in Spain was done by a cult and at that time it was as barbaric as Islam. The Koran condones violence. The New Testament of Grace through Jesus Christ does not condone violence. The cult which perpetrated the Inquisition was the Roman Catholic church. Why is it a cult? Because it worships Mary and prays to the saints; It declares that the Pope is God’s representative on earth. That is blasphemy. The Holy Spirit is God’s representative on earth. He declares to us Jesus and teaches us all truth which comes from God our Father and the Lord Jesus; It is said that when the Pope gives the word of God he (the Pope i.e.) is infallible and I believe he can go above the word of God. They also are into statues in a big way which is forbidden. Therefore it is incorrect to say that Christianity did the Inquisition. .
Angemon says
John Mustart South Africa. posted:
“The cult which perpetrated the Inquisition was the Roman Catholic church. Why is it a cult? Because it worships Mary and prays to the saints; It declares that the Pope is God’s representative on earth. That is blasphemy.”
Huh, as far as I know, Catholics are supposed to pray with saints, not to saints. They believe that saints are still alive in Heaven and, since they lead holy lives, their prayers are more effective. Perhaps any other commenter savvier than me can confirm/deny/expand that?
Also, you might want to give credit where credit is due. The Catholic Church, represented by the Pope, helped to unite warring kingdoms to fight against the threat of Islam. From the top of my head, the Crusades, Lepanto and Vienna.
John Mustart South Africa. says
Hello Angemon. You may be right about the “with”. However this is still not right. If it is then we should be praying to Moses. We can only pray to the Father and Jesus. The Crusaders also stormed Constantinople the Eastern Christian Church and caused much havoc there for 50 years in I think the 13th century. The Byzantium Christians had to flee their R.C. “brothers” until they left. It left them weakened which eventually prepared the way for Islam to invade Constantinople successfully in 1453. There R.C. brothers in Rome never lifted a finger to support them. So today we call it Istanbul. My hero, Tyndale who gave us the King James version of the Bible through his courageous work of translating the Bible into English while constantly being on the run, was burnt at the stake in the most horrible way for his efforts by the R.C. Church. The would was wet so the fire burt slowly resulting in an agonizing death. This is the work of a cult. It does not get worse than that. Many Christians were burnt at the stake because like Islam. you dared not oppose The R.C. “Church”. Do you think the Vatican and all the shananigans that have gone on down the ages matches the word of God? It could not be further from it. I realize that there are sincere people in this group but that does not redeem the Vatican. Enough said.
SpiritOf1683 says
Without the Crusades, Constantinople would have been conquered before the 13th Century began. And the whole of Europe would have followed suit, rather than being granted those extra 200 years for the Renaissance to take place and professional armies to be raised and equipped who could stand up to the Jihad. You owe your sorry backside to those Crusaders.
Angemon says
John Mustart South Africa. posted:
“The Crusaders also stormed Constantinople the Eastern Christian Church and caused much havoc there for 50 years in I think the 13th century. The Byzantium Christians had to flee their R.C. “brothers” until they left. It left them weakened which eventually prepared the way for Islam to invade Constantinople successfully in 1453.”
Did the Vatican ordered a Crusade against Constantinople or did the the Pope expressly forbade the Crusaders from attaching Orthodox Christians and they disregarded the papal prohibition and acted of their own accord? In any case, had it not been for the Catholic church rallying kingdoms who were, at best, distrustful of one another and, at worse, openly hostile, the Protestant Reformation might have been cut short by an Ottoman invasion – assuming that the turkish-muslim wave that swept through Byzantium and caused Alexios I to turn to Rome for help didn’t engulf Europe a few centuries earlier.
John Mustart South Africa. says
I have no idea who initiated the attack on Constantinople. There was a lot of wealth there so it must have been a tempting target for a horde of violent maniacs. You are quiet the apologist for an organization that was renowned for it’s violent oppression. The Vatican did not act in the Spirit of Christ. However you will be encouraged by the fact that the Crusades as bad an unchristian as they were, were insignificant compared to 1400 years of Islamic invasion taking I believe 270 million lives over that period.
Angemon says
John Mustart South Africa.posted:
“You are quiet the apologist for an organization that was renowned for it’s violent oppression.”
Huh, are you sure I did that? All I said is that you need to give credit where credit is due. Violent or oppressive as the RCC may have been sometimes throughout its history, it was the glue that held conflicting nations together against a foe that threatened to engulf them one by one. You don’t have to like the RCC as an institution or its religious practices to recognize that.
If you think I’m apologizing for the RCC then, well, we’re going to have to agree to disagree 🙂
Take care.
John Mustart South Africa. says
Thanks for your input Angemon. You have given me food for thought. I am sure there could be a lot we could agree on.
Best regards,
John
CogitoErgoSum says
How does attacking the Catholic Church aid in the struggle against the Islamic jihad? Tell me how this counters the Quran’s teaching that ALL “infidels” should be subdued or killed? This is Jihad Watch. Let’s stick to discussing the jihad being waged against the “infidels” and not get sidetracked into discussing the differences between the various types of “infidels.”
John Mustart South Africa. says
Sorry, (not an apology) but there was some reason why I got on to it. It was to do with Constaantinople if I remember correctly. Anyhow it was relevant.
duh_swami says
Q 9:5…Allah either means what he says, or he doesn’t, the Quran is either the living words of Allah, good for all time or it’s not. All war verses, are either precedents on how to conduct war and future war, or they are just footnotes of historical events making the Quran a history book and not a Holy book.
Most likely the compilers put the longest chapter first and the shortest last was to prevent Q from being a history book. What there is of history can be found in hadith and historians.
If the war verses refer to actual events only, then half the aya’s or more, obsolete and have no value except historians.
lebel says
It would be good if jihadwatch reported on Muslims performing acts of bravery or kindness (yes, they may exist and it may not be super taqqiya)
Such as: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/10/europe/kosher-grocery-employee/index.html
* note that this is a practicing Muslim
It would have been good also to mention the Muslim cop killed by AQ and perhaps the Muslim Charlie Hebdo employee.
FatherJon says
We know that all religions have had moments of bloodshed in their history, we don’t need facile lectures about it. But we’re living in the here and now and don’t want to be part of an Islamic resurgence while that religion wends its bloody way towards its own Reformation.
Angemon says
Yeah, what’s the deal with that? Muslims in the West just want to live their lives, and pay their bills (well, the ones that aren’t living on state welfare – economic jihad, the equivalent of muhammad’s caravan raids), and tell the kuffar about how wonderful islam is (stealth jihad), and probably finance islamic terrorism elsewhere, but on a daily basis they have to deal with crap like what happened in France – muslims quoting islamic scriptures to justify violence against non-muslims. And let’s not get into how the muslims in muslim-majority nations seem to be getting more and more “radicalized” and “extremist”, adopting sharia law and enforcing it on non-muslims as well. Don’t those muslims in muslim-majority nations (a.k.a., “the islamic world”) know anything about islam?!?!?!
Also, “longtime, Muslim-American”? Shouldn’t it be “American, long-time muslim”? Oh well, I guess the source should know where his/her loyalties lie…
Gamal says
Muhammad started his career by attacking and a caravan in order to loot it. That wasn’t defensive behavior.
There is Christian doctrine that played a role in the inquisition. Luther like Muhammad became furious when he could not convert Jews. In his book “The Jews and Their Lies he wrote “their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated. They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection] and these “poisonous envenomed worms” should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also wrote: “[w]e are at fault in not slaying them”.
Christian doctrine leads Christians to believe that evil hordes of Jews killed Jesus. In reality it was Romans who killed Jesus and Jesus had Jewish supporters and the story that Pontius Pilate killed Jesus because Jews made him do it is highly suspect. For more on that see
http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/shelp/whowasjesus.htm
and
http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/shelp/whokilledjesus.htm
Christian hatred of Jews, like Muslim hate, comes from religious texts. There are however, huge differences between Islam and Christianity which is why you don’t read every about another horrific Christian terrorist act but you read all the time about new Muslim atrocities. For a good web site about those differences see:
http://www.mypracticalphilosophy.com/jihadpages/differences.htm
duh_swami says
Obfuscations…Tu quequo…logical fallacy…
Kasey says
The tv interview shows taqiyya in full flight.
Johnny Pallyswine says
The tragedy is that this did not take place at a CNN studio. Hopefully it will in the future. When their families and kids are present to be slaughtered
ThisObamaNation says
There is no chance that the Communist News Network CNN will publish anything that is offensive to Muslims. Not intentionally, They won’t be executed by Muslims until we are all living under Sharia Law. The Jews, Christians and Gays will be the first to go. Until then they are Mohammed’s useful idiots. (PBUH)
Mirren10 says
”The tragedy is that this did not take place at a CNN studio. Hopefully it will in the future. When their families and kids are present to be slaughtered.”
That is an utterly **vile** thing to say. Bugger off, troll.
Spot On says
The people at CNN are either insane, stupid, Islamic, or on the payroll of the Saudis.
ThisObamaNation says
All of the above.
Cunamarra says
In the video at 00:25 Muhammad, Iftikhar says, “…was defamed many times during his life and there was not one time where he told people to take retribution for it..” Iftikhar is preying on the refusal of non-Muslim peoples to educate themselves about Islam and is therefore able to shamelessly lie with intellectual impunity to this newsman. The Sirat records a man, a woman nursing her baby, and young teenage girl who had been between the age of 5 and 10 when she lampooned him, all being killed for insulting Muhammad.
“Oh apostle of Allah, we shall have to tell lies.” “Say what you want, for you are free in the mater.”
“War is deceit.”
Islamisdeath says
Current day Protestants are huge supporters of the Jews and yes we live in the here and now. If this is the same Iftikhar that trolls forums occasionally he is of the vilest sort. He lives in the UK and is pushing for the British taxpayers to pay for islamic schools so muslim children can have an education that elevates them in society and instills dignity in them. In other words prepares them to take over and teaches them that non muslims are inferior. If he is who CNN is quoting then CNN is truly suspect.
DiMu says
Poor darlings! Everything is relative. I say we should SOS the cannibals hiding away in the forests of PNG and invite them to immigrate. They would give cultural enrichment to us and we would give gastronomical enrichment to them. A win-win situation. But above all, it would make the murdering jihadists seem quite tame. Or perhaps there are still a few heart-ripping-out Aztecs surviving in the backwoods of the jungle. They would put Muslims in a better light as well.
ThisObamaNation says
There are two types of Jihad. There is the Violent Jihad and there is the Silent Jihad aka the Stealth Jihad.
The supposedly peaceful Muslims are practicing the later. The Stealth Jihad works through massive, immigration, infiltration, and higher birth rates. The plan is to gain power and influence through changing the demographics of the Infected Host Countries.
The Silent Jihad is much more subtle and insidious, it is like a cancer which will destroy Western Civilization from within. So far the Muslims are winning, and winning quickly. We are our own worst enemies. Political Correctness will lead to the end of the world as we know it. You have been warned.
JerryCan says
“And Muslim denunciations of terror attacks are plentiful”
Not as plentiful as, say, the worldwide Muslim protests when the Mohammad caricatures were published.
Denunciations are nice. Perhaps Muslims need to show they are outraged by terrorist acts in the name of their religion.
Frank LdR says
Interesting how all the attacks on Christianity are centered in the 16th century and those directed at Islam in the 21st. The beauty of Christianity is it’s evolution. The insidiousness of Islam is it’s absence.
IQ al Rassooli says
CNN got is as USUAL Upside Down & Inside Out because it is NONE Muslims who CANNOT ger a break!
Just read the following as an answer to those Brain Dead left liberal elites:
This is not for any specific religion, but it’s true……..
The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
The Underwear Bomber was a Muslim
The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
The Moscow Theatre Attackers were Muslims
The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
The Beirut U.S. Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
The Beirut Marine Barracks Bombers were Muslims
The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
The First World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
The Bombay, Mumbai, India Attackers were Muslims
The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
The Nairobi, Kenya Shopping Mall Killers were Muslims
The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
The Sydney, Australia Lindt Cafe Kidnapper was a Muslim
The Peshawar, Pakistani School Children Killers were Muslims
Think of it:
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = VERY BIG PROBLEM
**********SO THIS LEAD TO *****************
They’re not happy in Gaza
They’re not happy in Egypt
They’re not happy in Libya
They’re not happy in Iran
They’re not happy in Iraq
They’re not happy in Yemen
They’re not happy in Pakistan
They’re not happy in Syria
They’re not happy in Lebanon
They’re not happy in Nigeria
They’re not happy in Kenya
They’re not happy in Sudan
They’re not happy in Morocco
They’re not happy in Afghanistan
******** So, where are they happy? **********
They’re happy in Australia
They’re happy in Belgium
They’re happy in France
They’re happy in Holland
They’re happy in Italy
They’re happy in Germany
They’re happy in Spain
They’re happy in Sweden
They’re happy in Denmark
They’re happy in the USA & Canada
They’re happy in Norway & India
They’re very happy in England (UK) (Loads of Welfare Benefits)
They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame? Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves…
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!
And they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy and finally they will be get hammered !!!!
Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Shabbab Somalia: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE!!!!!!!
Think of it all ‘Secular’ Parties ……
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Re: your partial list of mass murder organizations
And the range of discussion among the news entertainers is whether ISIS is eclipsing al-Qaeda. Nobody asks whether that makes a difference, whether it matters at all. That’s because removing the mass murder organization variable from the equation leaves only Moslems. Islam.
There is no war with Moslems. The war we wage is on reality.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Does Islam encourage violence? Many Muslims bristle at mere hint of this idea
Yeah, they get all porcupined up and all bristly like when you accuse them of being prickly. A group of people who get prickly are, in a word, pricks. The are only two ways the Infidels can finally stop the tide of their perpetual anger:
1) Give up, and become either Dhimmis or Moslems, or
2) Outlaw Islam as a felony crime, and stamp the belief system out altogether.
Neither is palatable, so nothing will be done. Then they’ll be pissed, just like they were before we did nothing, and freedom will one day be missed. Large chunks of the stuff are already missing, so why not return to the dissonant symphony of victimists moaning and pissing.
Georg says
As Pat Condell said, paraphrasing, if the government gives up our freedoms the people won’t– they won’t allow it! This is another despicable piece of propaganda so predictably, and insensitively, might I add, upchucked onto the popular discourse by the liberal intelligentsia. We will stand up for ourselves. It’s as simple as that. So get ready.
Islamisdeath says
Imam obama knows this that is why the FBI is not being taught how to defend us from Jihadis but from people who refuse to accept this quietly. According to the imam in the white house Americas biggest threat is from ordinary citizens who refuse to be enslaved by islam.
FatherJon says
There can be no greater lesson for our Western leaders than the outstanding show of anti-Islamist sentiments expressed in the massive turn-out across France. 3 million people made their feelings very strongly known, 1 million in Paris alone. And yet still we see and hear our leaders and the media talk in muted tones about ‘hooligans’ or ‘criminals’ being the cause of violence. This will not do, they have to face the fact that mistakes have been made by allowing, nay inviting, the wrong immigrant mix into our countries. The seed of our current problems, globally now, lies in the way that the Islamic religion is used, or misused by many wrong-minded adherents in furthering a bloody ‘risorgimento’ cause. Its own leaders and spiritual advisers would also do well to start taking our threats seriously. We will not stand for violent jihadis within our midsts. If our leaders are too lily-livered to face threats, the populace is not!
Nous sommes tous Charlie….allons enfants……
Dan says
Look.
I want to believe the “Most Muslims are not violent” argument.
But I spent several years sailing through the Middle East and spending more that the couple tourist weeks in any spot, I got to know locals personally.
I’ve seen the “Kill the Jews” propaganda films on tv. At first I thought they were some stupid B grade movie, until I was provided translation.
As much as I love my family and friends, if I knew ANY were planning violence like radical Islamists have, I’d turn them in in a heartbeat. I’d visit them in jail, but there’s no way I’d hide them.
Only when Mohammad starts turning in Achmed. And when Achmed turns in Moostafa. And Moostafa turns in Mohammad, will I truly believe most “Moderate Muslims” abhor terrorist acts.
Not only did I live in Muslim countries, I survived THREE MUSLIM pirate attacks, and I don’t believe that, growing up in such cultures, that everybody who emigrates from there is going to change their way of thinking just because OUR laws say they must.
There is a good percentage of Muslim immigrants that simply think WE are the ones who are nuts.
Rob Porter says
My brother was for a number of years an officer on Shell tankers and when visiting most Middle East ports the crew were warned to go no further ashore than the Seaman’s Mission in the dock area. Why? Because if they went further ashore there was a chance they would not come back in one piece.
Oliver says
My brother had a friend, who was half Egyptian, half Irish, also a (sometimes) merchant seaman ( when he ran short of money).
he was on a tanker, that had to be loaded in Saudi Arabia. One of the crew members went ashore- was returned with his c–ck in his mouth. The explanation- he asked a woman, in (not Arabic, not sure if English, French or Spanish) where something was. the crime- he spoke to a woman, not his wife. (That is what my brother’s friend was told-as he told me).
he 9even speaking Arabic and being 1/2 Egyptian-with an Egyptian name, never went back to a Muslim country.
FatherJon says
I think those of us who have spent any time in Muslim countries can tell similar stories. The lesson is do NOT acknowledge any woman’s presence in any way. The men are insanely jealous and treat their women abominably. Even inside a man’s home, if you’re invited, do not look at the women -if you see any – and don’t mention their presence, even out of politeness. The old ‘how’s the wife’ is not appreciated and you’re likely to end up friendless, as well as cockless!
Arab tea and coffee houses are the loneliest places on earth, just wall-to-wall men all staring at each other. That’s when we really value the charm and wit of our own women.
Shane says
Gutless liberal dhimmis refuse to acknowledge that Islam was created as a religion of war, that Muhammad was a warlord, and that Muhammad encouraged his followers to fight until all people submit to Islam. Only a few liberals tell the truth about Islam.
Apologists for Evil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4FpTvp0tgs
zaba says
Muhammad encouraged his followers to fight until all people submit to Islam.
And still does today.
Time to eliminate islam in the West…..
KenW says
This jackass, Arsalan Iftikhar, when asked about why the cult of islam gets so upset about caricatures of the false prophet Muhammad, he stated they don’t allow caricatures of any of the prophets of islam. According to the imams of islam, Jesus was one of their prophets. Why don’t they get upset when anyone depicts Jesus in an unflattering light? Some of their imams say Jesus will bring the world to islam. Why do they hate Christians who follow Jesus, one of their prophets? They are so full of lies and deceit. They need to be stopped now!!! Moderate muslims will hold your feet while radical muslims cut off your head!!!
Rob Porter says
Arsalan Iftikhar, who I’ve watched on CNN during one of those masochistic exercises of watching the enemy, is a fairly typical Muslim liar and rationalizer. Like Reza Aslan he is actually stupid enough to think we will swallow his assertions that true believing Muslims are not responsible for their acts of Islamic violence and that the Qur’an has no bearing on their hatred and murderous behaviour. CNN imbeciles like Don Lemon actually swallow this trash.
Jon says
“Most Muslims are not violent” ? Is there anything more violent than stripping half of the population(women) of their rights… Or stipping anyone who doesn’t drink your particular flavor of Kool-Aide of all of their rights? Give me a freaking break, how are people still asking these questions with a straight face.
St. Croix says
WTF? Grotesque manipulation of brain cells attempted by CNN and Muslim “human rights” lawyer Arsalan. ARSE-alan is more like it. Sorry for the language, as a Christian I try not to be so crude, but these fools totally deserve the epithets.
It is so very surreal it’s hard to believe anyone believes this horse shit. No, horse shit is too good for this mess.
Give this infidel a break and stop insulting intelligence, CNN, by putting this kind of fantastical drivel out there.
As usual, Robert Spencer nails it.
FatherJon says
St.Croix: Well said. I’m not a man for crudities either, but I echo your sentiments exactly.
dlbrand says
A few excerpts from ‘Abdur Rahman I. Doi’s, Shariah: The Islamic Law:
Once again, let’s benefit from the labor and knowledge of Qadi Iyad.
Recall, this Qadi, a multi-times-awarded-recipient of an ijaza (“a certification” asserting one is qualified to teach others on a particular subject, in this case, Islam), “Imam of his time in hadith and its sciences….. scholar of tafsir and its sciences … faqih in usul “(in brief, an expert in Islamic legal theory, methodology, and in the application of Shariah).
What’s more, this work cited from here, Ash-Shifa’ bi-ta’ rif huquq Mustafa, (“Healing by the Recognition of the Rights of the Chosen One”), is what Iyad asserts is the end product of him responding affirmatively to the request of the ummah for him to “compile what our forefathers and Imams have said on this subject.” “Write something,” men of the ummah asked of him, “that gathers together all that is necessary” to understand the stature of the prophet, and thus “the esteem and respect which is due him” (their prophet).” Provide also therewith, “the verdict regarding anyone who does not fulfil [sic] what his (Muhammad’s) stature demands or who attempts to denigrate his supreme status–even by as much as a nail pairing.” (Ash-Shifa, Author’s Prefaxe [sic],P. vi.)
Qadi Iyad states, he answered that call–provided just that. Moreover, he states, he amplified the topic “with ayats from the Qur’an and other examples.” (Ibid.)
As the book asserts, so sacred a work is this book regarded as in Islam, it is said of it, if it is found in a house, that house and all in it will suffer no harm; if any ill reads the book or hears that in it recited, “Allah s.w.t. will restore his health.” (Ibid, Back Cover.) As such, we would be fools to fail to benefit from the depth, breath, and width of knowledge and insight on Islam, its prophet, the honor Islam asserts is due that man, and the punishment due all who fail to render that honor and esteem asserted due him, this book provides.
Additionally, Iyad asserts, when this “momentous undertaking” was asked of him, accepting it filled his heart with trepidation—because he knew, he had to get it right. The end product was, after all, for Muhammad and Allah’s ummah.
Thus, he states, the work could and would by no means be a product of by guess and by golly.
No Sir. Qadi Iyad thus asserts, before he could began penning, down the details, lines, paragraphs, pages, chapters, precepts that would comprise the Sections of this work, first he had to evaluate “the primary sources” that speak to the topics. With that done, proceed then into a careful “examination of secondary sources and investigation of the depth and details of the science of what is necessary for the Prophet….” (Ibid.)
Thus he states of that immense undertaking, “Here we find vast desert wastes …unknown places in which dreams go astray if they are not guided by a waymark of knowledge and clear eye.” Indeed, understandable. He further states, in such an undertaking therein are “slippery slopes where feet falter if they do not rely on success and support from Allah alone.”
Indeed, thus, the work regarded, clearly, as not the work of Qadi Iyad per se but the work of Allah.
Iyad further states, the trepidation to his heart, the fear of those possible “slippery slopes” notwithstanding, he has great hope of gaining, by the work, a great reward and repayment, for the work completed, and reward not only for himself but for every reader and heeder of the book. Because, as he states, “Allah has made it an obligation on those who have been given the Book to make it clear to people and not to conceal it.” (Ibid.)
As he provides the following:
That is why we have in our hands this invaluable Handbook on the so-called prophet of Islam, his stature, and the esteem and honor Islam asserts is due him.
Thus so guided by the principles cited above, Iyad asserts, he hastened to the task. Searching to find “clear anecdotes with the object of achieving my goal and fulfilling the prescribed duty.” And when find such, he “seized upon them quickly.” In addition, in his every decision of what to include in this work, he made that decision mindful of the greatest duties of man, which, he provides are, among other duties, to “look to the salvation of his own soul, seek to increase the number of his right actions and acquire knowledge for his own and other people’s benefit.” (Ibid.)
That is the guidance Iyad asserts he followed in producing every line, precept, chapter, and section of this invaluable work. Thus, as is so with the Qur’an in Islam, this book is not to be swept under the rug. It is not intended for the garbage bin—it is considered sacred.
Hence, I restate, we would be fools to fail to benefit from the precepts borne out on the pages of this book.
Therefore, with respect to Muslims rejecting the ways, practices, and traditions of their prophet, to Ash-Shifa:
Therein we clearly see, all so-called Muslims today who state, in honesty, their condemnation of the Charlie Hebdo killings by the Soldiers of Muhammad, if they are sincere in their stated condemnations, they are no longer Muslims.
They are apostates.
Are so, because the Charlie Hebdo massacre was in perfect agreement with the sunnah of the so-called prophet of Islam, and to condemn that sunnah is to deny the claimed perfection of Muhammad, and to do so is an action and an assertion only made by an unbeliever. And for such a one, as seen and witnessed to on numerous pages of Ash-Shifa, and elsewhere, as clearly spelled out in the following words of Muhammad ibn Sahnun, “the judgement [sic] against anyone who rejects the Prophet is he is killed.” (Ibid, P. 387.)
Jack R. Maxwell says
CNN’s analysis lacks four key points:
1. Islam is a supremacist religion, and a supremacist religion can never co-exist. It must continue the struggle until all other faiths are subordinated or eliminated.
2. It is fundamentalist Muslims who commit the violence, not those who have misinterpreted Islam. If a Muslim is not carrying on the fight, he is not following the fundamental ideas of the faith. In contrast, the people who carried out the Inquisition, slavery, or put “Gott mit ums” on the belt buckle of Nazi soldiers were not following the fundamentals of Christianity, namely the “Golden Rule.”
3. Muslim violence is not a consequence of oppression, discrimination or marginalization. The attacks at the British railroad station a few years back were done by British Muslim physicians. The underwear bomber was the son of a powerful, wealthy Nigerian government official, the 9-11 attackers were all from well-off Saudi families, Bin Laden was from a rich Saudi family. Applying Marxist class struggle determinism to Islamic terror is an attempt to shift responsibility from Islam and vindicate secular progressive ideology.
4. Islam reflects the supremacy in nature of powerful males. The strong male takes many females at the expense of weaker males. Mohammed, the “perfect man” had 15 wives. The strong male does not need to show deference to women. The concept of chivalry came out of Christian Europe, where Christianity’s insistence on monogamy had the effect of empowering women. Without its call for death to any who leave Islam, most women would be gone.
gamal says
Muslim extremists would have us believe these incidents are just the result of a few extremists and that the majority Muslims are moderate reasonable nice people. Pamela Geller just posted a video of Muslim teenagers in France happy about the attack on the kosher restaurant. There are too many Muslims who are happy after terrorist attacks.
Oliver says
Gamal,
Recall, after 911, THERE WAS DANCING BY THE MUZZIES IN GAZA AND THE WEST BANK .
Happy that thousands of Americans ( and others) were killed.
Arafat got the showings stopped–I guess afraid that the US and possibly other memebrs of the Uselss nations would find them offensive and cut off his money.
Rob Crawfordc says
Since 9/11, the networks have learned not to activate any cameras they have in Muslim-majority areas when terrorist attacks occur. That way they don’t even have footage of the celebrations.
Littlenan says
How is it that whenever Muslims engage in some wicked acts, liberal presenters turn the facts inside out and find that it is the Muslims who are the persecuted.
I never have understood the type of mind which could show understanding for murders committed by these wicked people and blame the victims.
zaba says
Liberalism is a mental disease.
Anon says
“Such acts destroy years of goodwill and work about Islam”
A violent, arrogant and fragile ideology.
Is it Halal to have more whine with your cheese?
“…the implication that all Muslims shoulder the blame for terroristic [sic] attacks, or aren’t doing enough to denounce them.”
Shouldn’t it be “…the implication that all Muslim leaders shoulder the blame for terroristic [sic] attacks, or aren’t doing enough to stop them.”
I wonder, is it just a “small” problem – is it just a “tiny” “minority”?
Should Sharia Apply to All Citizens? The percentage that believe this is about 47% based on ten Muslim majority countries in the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa. Based on the Muslim population of those countries, that results in 243 million people (at a minimum) believing that Sharia law should apply to all citizens.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country (collated from known sources).
Posted for the benefit of JW visitors.
Oliver says
Why does anyone even bother with CNN/
CNN means CREATIVE NEWS NETWORK. If it ISN’T TRUE, WE WILL MAKE IT SO.
Some years ago, they (CNN) ran a story about ‘major fighting” in some area of Nigeria, between the army and separatists rebels. With videos.
The Nigerian Ambassadors ( to the Useless nations; the US and a few western countries) all said, there is fighting, but not in this particular province.
CNN stood by their reporter.
Their reporter then broke up with his girl friend. ALL KNOW– HELL HATH NO FURY LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED.
The (now ex) girl friend PROVIDED CREDIT CARD RECEIPTS FROM A COSTUME SHOP FOR UNIFORMS, AND COPIES OF RECEIPTS FOR MONEY HE GAVE LOCALS (all of which he billed CNN for, under some other wording) to play/act the battle(s) he was claiming.
CNN REFUSED TO BACK DOWN. Said the ex g.f. was lying.
Recalling that and CNN’s relentless bashing of Israel and praising of Muzzies, I don’t pay attention to anything they say.
Don Fredrick says
Burke argues that many Muslims “simply shrugged off” el-Sisi’s address “Because of his brutal human rights record—rounding up dissidents, jailing journalists and cracking down on the Muslim Brotherhood.” Perhaps Burke believes that violent dissidents, members of the radical Muslim Brotherhood, and the journalists who support them should be free to encourage terrorism. If members of the Ku Klux Klan terrorized blacks in the United States, would Burke not want the government “cracking down on them?”
Oliver says
The ” journalists’-if I remember correctly, ALL worked for the -same firm that bought Gore’s (useless-my opinion) cable station- (Al-J——- not sure of the spelling).
I do not recall reading other journalists arrested.
And the “PEACEFUL” M.B. RALLIES, the “peaceful” brotherhood people were armed. And the “peaceful” MB and their bed mates- the Jihadists- are killing people in Sinai and elsewhere.
Sisi (MY OPINION) SHOULD CRACK DOWN HARDER.
The Obama Timeline author says
People need to understand how Muslims define terms. Yes, many Muslims say they reject violence against innocent people. But they do not consider non-Muslims “innocent people.”
FatherJon says
Not only do they not consider non-Muslims as worthy of human value, they don’t like each other very much either. We used to be appalled at Catholics and Protestants killing each other in Northern Ireland but that was like a playground spat compared to these people ruthlessly destroying each other and the rest of us at the same time.
J. Maxwell says
One important distinction, I believe needs to be made about the killing in Northern Ireland. They were not fighting over interpretations of Scripture, but which “tribe” would dominate. I think it is important to point this out because too often the secular left will use this and other conflicts, particularly the Thirty Years War, to argue there is no real difference between Christianity and other religions as a source of conflict. In the Thirty Years, the French switched sides for strategic reasons and became allied with the Protestant Scandinavians. So to if the war was about Scripture, how could they have done this?
Oliver says
For what it is worth–some years ago (like 15 or 20) I knew some people who lived (part time) in Ireland, although the wife had been born there. (In the Catholic section- .
They told me that THE BIG ( AND MAJOR) ISSUE WAS NOT RELIGION, BUT MONEY AND ECONOMICS.
The Protestants had more of both.
I never checked this out, but made the assumption- they had a home there; the wife was born there- and lived through some of the fighting- that they knew of what they spoke.
Anaso Machara says
I am an EXTRIMIST Muslim…YES THIS IS WHAT I AM & I AM PROUD OF BEING AN EXTRIMIST MUSLIM!!! Extremist Muslim means Extremely Loving, Extremely Merciful, Extremely kind , Extremely Respectful & Extremely just….this is what I am & what I will always be!!! I knw & am aware of that according to the dictionary or Verses of CNN, BBC & FOX, Extremist Muslim means a KILLER, WICKED, EVIL, MERCILESS, TERRORIST, etc. But Extremist Muslim according to Islamic teaching, it means Extremely Loving, Caring, extremely kind,etc. So inshort: I dont mind if anybody or any media call me WHITE when I am actually a brow!! TO those of u out there who hate me & hate my religion/Islam/ based on the Holy Vesrses of CNN, BBC & FOX, I wanna say this to u: “NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU HATE ME & HATE MY RELIGION, But I have NO choice except loving u & respect u, because I am an Extrimist Muslim! To the Christians, I wanna remind u one of most beautiful teaching of prophet Jesus..: “If someone SLAPPED u on ur right cheek, GIVE HIM THE OTHER ONE!!!
Flying fish says
Good joke!
Take a virtual cookie!
Flying fish says
How disingenuos of that muslim to list an act of violence occurred centuries ago (like inquisition), to argue that Christianity is as violent as islam is. The same islam that just spilled someone else’s blood today somewhere in the world.
And the reasons behind these acts are not the same.