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David Wood and Osama Abdallah debate: Is the Islamic State Islamic?

Jan 1, 2015 8:34 am By Robert Spencer

The answer would be obvious were it not for the denial and obfuscation of Western political and religious (Muslim and non-Muslim) leaders. In this intriguing debate, Osama Abdallah spreads more of that fog, but David Wood clears it away.

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  1. Angry says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 9:02 am

    I can’t understand why it should be questioned. If it says ‘Islamic’ in the title, then it’s obviously ‘Islamic’.

    David Wood is intelligent enough to see this, and explain why. Unlike Osama, who’s fooling the viewers in into a false sense of belief; like suit and jihadi’s do.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 1, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      NO TRUE SCOTSMAN WOULD ACT LIKE ISIS!

      It is not ‘Islamic’ because it is not endorsed by Al Azhar University and the Arab kings and dictators.

      It is not ‘Islamic’ for reasons of mere political convenience.

      The fallacy the Islamic disinformationists are using against ISIS is ‘No True Scotsman’.

      Islamic apologists say, ‘NO TRUE MUSLIM WOULD ACT LIKE ISIS!’ But Islamic history shows the opposite is true.

      MOST TRUE MUSLIMS HAVE ALWAYS ACTED LIKE ISIS!

  2. Jack Diamond says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 10:07 am

    When you have no refutation,when you have no rational response to what David Wood establishes lock, stock and barrel, you must, you simply must, have the ZIonist Conspiracy card to play. The CIA/Zionist Conspiracy to make Islam look bad. This is the best spokesman Muslims can find? CIA/Zionist agent Bin Laden is alive and living in South America? The Jews with their dark arts, as David summarizes Osama’s last attempt at an argument, are behind everything, hiding behind everything (behind the stones and trees): behind 9/11, ISIS, al Qaeda. Why? Because Allah said the Jews are the greatest enemies of the Muslims (5:82) and practice sorcery and witchcraft (4:51-52) and ignite all the fires of war (5:64). This hapless fool, Osama, who can barely articulate a coherent sentence, can only parade the same old tired “peaceful” verses, dismiss abrogation, dismiss problematic hadiths out of hand, dismiss the phases of war clearly laid out by Muhammad and as traditionally interpreted by just about everyone in the ulema for 14 centuries, misquote the Bible, and show himself to be a babbling idiotic fantasist. But what else could he be when faced with David Wood and an airtight argument as to why “ISIS is as Islamic as you can get”?

    • Coolio says

      Jan 1, 2015 at 2:15 pm

      Thanks Jack. Very useful references for a piece I’m writing: Another 9/11 ‘truth’ campaign

    • PatnCats says

      Jan 2, 2015 at 11:57 am

      You are right on target! I just read a great biography of the Psychopath Mohammed: By F.W. Burleigh, “It’s All About Mohammed, the World’s Most Notorious Prophet.” Excellent book though the subject is repulsive of course. Mr. Buleigh uses all islamic sources to expose the psychopathic/epileptic madman Mohammad for what he really was.

  3. Edison says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 10:21 am

    From it’s inception, Islam has been a political entity as much as a religious one. The Islamic State is pure Islam, plain and simple. Claims to the contrary ignore 1400 years of Islamic history.

  4. Buraq says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 11:19 am

    Osama Abdullah reveals his Jew hatred the longer he speaks. And his belief that Abu Bakr al- Baghdadi is an Iranian Jew that none of the ISIS terrorists have rumbled yet is hilarious!

    Osama’s a clown!

    • John C. Barile says

      Jan 1, 2015 at 1:34 pm

      An Iranian Jew–the Dajjal, no doubt. Islamic thinking is so linear, it closes back in on itself.

      • Huck Folder says

        Jan 1, 2015 at 11:23 pm

        ouroboros

        Actually a trinity (!) koran-allah-mo.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 2, 2015 at 5:13 pm

      Buraq wrote:

      And his belief that Abu Bakr al- Baghdadi is an Iranian Jew that none of the ISIS terrorists have rumbled yet is hilarious!
      ……………………………

      Besides, if a Muslim came along pretending to be a Jew or Christian, holding forth that Judaism and Christianity allowed those of that faith to take sex slaves, commit genocide, and behead journalists and aid workers, would they have hordes of Jews and Christians running off to join up to conquer a state larger than England?

      I think not. The Islamic State is not just al-Baghdadi, but hundreds of thousands of pious Muslims acting in the name of the Caliphate.

  5. Mitch says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 11:19 am

    That was embarrassing. Osama hasn’t learned, yet, that Islam can fight effectively when it uses deadly weapons and tantrums against unarmed infidels, but when it tries to defend itself with words and reason, it will be humiliated every time.

    I give him credit for standing up, though, and I hope he continues debating, Western style, and that he improves his thinking skills, and that more Muslims follow his example. Win win.

    Well done, and thanks, David Wood.

  6. Billy Wright says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 11:55 am

    Could no one better than Osama have been put forward against the excellent David Wood?

    Such a bumbling, evasive, cringeworthy performance from Osama.

    The answer is: probably not. From my experience of debating online with Muslims on this very topic, they literally have no coherent defence.

  7. BlueRaven says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    The objectives of the debate were clear – is ISIS Islamic, and does it follow Islamic commands. Dr Wood was precise debating the issue to the end, explaining why ISIS is Islamic and why he thought it precisely uses Mo’s dictates – or Allah’s dictates. Mr. Abdalla was a clown in a ‘debate’ circus. He made amazing number of attempts to divert the focus of the debate to anything his rumbling and confused brain could muscle up. He was pathetic and ridiculous bring in some useless concocted and misplaced videos of 9/11 and clearly demonstrated his complete hate filled thoughts about Jews and he was a complete hypocrite about his arguments, and like a ‘good’ Muslim making things up as he went along – he stated there is no abrogation in the Kuran. Even I know Hadiths are full of abrogations about Kuran and that is what they were meant for.

    I have come to a final conclusion, there is no single Muslim in the whole world who can debate Kuran honestly, because when a Muslim understands the vile and non-coherent stuff written in there, an honest person risks his/her life and leaves this cult. All Muslims are completely subjugated by Islam – a terrible thing for the Humanity and the Muslims alike.

  8. BlueRaven says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    Happy New Year to everyone on JW. My special thanks to Robert for keeping the torch light shining in this very dark day and age. The media, most of the time, is full of bull, especially CNN, NYT, LAT, Huff Po to name a few.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 2, 2015 at 5:17 pm

      Happy New Year to you, Blue Raven!

  9. Jeff says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    Everyone should watch this debate. Osama displayed the characteristics of people suffering from paranoid delusions. He had no response for David Wood’s arguments other than to blame it all on Jews and CIA conspiracies. Islam came from mental illness and leads to mental illness for its followers.

  10. cranky.white.woman says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Osama just had his ass handed to him by David. When you have to trot out conspiracy theories, you’ve lost the debate.

  11. wallace says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 2:33 pm

    I am a pacifist but that osama has a face that i would never tire of slapping, What a muttering bumbling oaf. I wouldn’t be surprised if old Baghadi hasn’t put a contract out on him. Well done David but it’s a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. God help osama with the houris because i dont think he could find his arse with both hands

  12. Dave J says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    There is no fun in Islam. There is no humor in Islam.

    And apparently there is no rationality either.

  13. cs says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 5:17 pm

    On Osama’s youtube they are claiming victory on the debate, delusional.
    Look for yourselves.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 2, 2015 at 5:38 pm

      Thanks for the link, cs. More proof—if more were needed—that pious Muslims are incapable of reasoned debate.

    • Angemon says

      Jan 2, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      cs posted:

      “On Osama’s youtube they are claiming victory on the debate, delusional.”

      And they surprised no one who has been Osama’s previous debates and commentaries. Heavily editing video, censoring comments on their website… Their opinions must be taken with a bucket of salt.

      I swear, Osama is the kind of person who would pick a fight with a WWE superstar, get his face caved in and his ass handed over to him, and as soon as he could talk he’d say “I’ve won because I broke his hand with my face! TAKBEEER!!!!”.

      • Angemon says

        Jan 2, 2015 at 5:54 pm

        “who has seen Osama’s previous debates”, not ” who has been Osama’s previous debates”. Damn auto-corrector…

  14. Angemon says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 5:20 pm

  15. Boston Tea Party says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    One thing that really struck me: notice the vastly different emotional state that each exhibits when defending their respective faiths. David is calm, confident, peaceful and measured. Osama is angry, frustrated, sullen and scattered. I would think that trying to defend both the logic and ethics of the false religion of Islam must indeed be a frustrating, difficult, unsatisfying endeavor.

  16. livingengine says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Why can’t Muslims debate? (Again)
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/why-cant-muslims-debate-again

    Why Muslims still can’t debate
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/why-muslims-still-cant-debate

  17. Kate says

    Jan 1, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    Having read the Qur’an, I know for a fact that Osama was spouting nonsense. Wood was spot on during the whole debate. Osama had to resort to conspiracy theories about 9/11 and then point to passages in the Bible in an attempt to discredit Wood and the beliefs of many Christians. What I have always found fascinating about many Muslim debaters is that they will take many passages from the Bible out of context, especially historical context, and then chastise Christians for seemingly doing the same thing with the verses in the Qur’an. The big difference is that verses in the Bible do have context and many of the verses in the Qur’an don’t..

  18. Sam says

    Jan 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm

    Thanks David. YOU ARE A HERO. I still do not understand how you can stay calm and collected with these idiots who can not see that their religion is false with all the evidence in front of their eyes. God bless you!

    • cs says

      Jan 3, 2015 at 5:30 am

      Me too, but I find even more interesting when he debates heavy terrorists ideologists such as Anjem or Omar Bakri and tell on their faces, that Big Mo is a pedophile rapist. lol. What a coll blooded guy.

  19. andrew sapia says

    Jan 2, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Albagdadi is a secret Jew, go figure, them damn Jews.

  20. gravenimage says

    Jan 2, 2015 at 7:33 pm

    The witless Osama Abdallah runs the site “Answering Christianity”.

    On it, he claims that one of the “scientific miracles” of the Qur’an is that it has 114 chapters. (yep—that’s a “miracle”) He also claim’s that proof of the “One-eyed Dajjal’s signs and powers” is “today’s Zionist machine”. Why does anyone take this stooge seriously?

    He also claims that a 9-year-old child is a “woman” who is “qualified for marriage”, even though she might “look as child to you” (sic).

    He cheerfully acknowledges that Islam enjoins wifebeating—but it’s OK, because this only applies to “flirty” or “defiant” wives.

    Surprisingly, he also openly condones suicide bombings against Israel—one of the reasons being that they are “building settlements”—but then bizarrely disputes the idea that terrorism is allowed in Islam.

    “So my answer would be, may Allah Almighty bless our Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and grant the Highest Levels of Paradise to its Suicide Bombers.”

    He claims that 9/11 was “the biggest lie in history”. He doesn’t mention any of the other 24,742 Jihad terror attacks, though…

    But then he contradicts himself—on the very same site—and says this:

    “Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, allowed the killing of innocent civilians in very very special and exceptional cases:

    The Prophet allowed the killing of civilians in exceptional cases!

    9/11 was exceptional because it was the only mean to strike the murderous infidels – who deformed thousands of innocent Iraqi babies and children with depleted Nuclear bombs – in the heart of their homes”

    Never mind that Osama bin Laden never claimed this as a motive for 9/11. And it would have been difficult for him to have done so, since the claim—questionable in any case—has been made for the US invasion of Iraq *post-2003*—two years after 9/11.

    Yet despite the fact that Osama Abdallah cannot debate—or even keeps his facts straight—he posts the above debate with David Wood as though he hadn’t been exposed as a fool.

    He goes on to say he considers Americans to be fair game:

    As I mentioned above, it was the US who started the bloody wars with the Muslims. It was the US who killed people from the Muslims first. And it is the US that supports the state of Israel’s aggression against the unarmed Palestinians.

    But according to Islam, Muslims MUST NOT start the killing! The enemy has to start it with us first!
    …

    Lots more ugly idiocy here:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

    In addition, the cite is riddled with typos, misspellings, and other errata.

    • andrew sapia says

      Jan 3, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      not that he would know about beating his wife, since his dumb fat Elmer Fud looking ass could hardly attract a wife. If he has a wife I am certain it was the result of an arranged cousin marriage. He should be put in a burka so as not to harm the eyes of the viewers. I’ve seen more than one of his debates and he is a total retard. He’s an embracement to the entire Muslim community. If Muhammad was here he would have him beheaded for bringing such shame to Islam.

  21. Pork Eating Crusader says

    Jan 2, 2015 at 7:35 pm

    Abdallah’s other job is working in the Obama administration’s press secretaries office.

  22. GKP says

    Jan 3, 2015 at 2:34 am

    IS is Islamic and what Osama is playing is called Taquiya. Thanks Mr.Wood for unfolding the truth.

  23. almeira says

    Jan 3, 2015 at 2:36 am

    Happy new year to all peaceloving homosapiens,may the joy of the seasons last in our hearts. We also thank the Great JEHOVAH for sparing us to see this new beautiful year,Alleluiah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Daryl salaam’a attrocities,silent evil fundings shall be exposed finally this year and all the Antichrist shall be exposed also and be put tc shame

  24. andrew sapia says

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:01 pm

    plus half the debate was with dick Chaney and others like the hippie imam from California who always gives the impression that Muhammad was a flower child, what’s his name? I just call him Mr. selective Hadith. Then the 9/11 stuff and the Jews, Jews, Jews, he is an embracement and should have been called out for his blatant anti-Semitism and blood libel. Especially when it has nothing to do with the topic. He just basically used it as a platform to rail against the Jews. He should be spoken to prior to any future debate. If you want to have a debate on Islam and the Jews then fine, but this was way out of control.

  25. andrew sapia says

    Jan 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    This debate should be used by the CIA as an enhanced interrogation technique against Muslim terrorists. They would give up the info just to keep from dying of embarrassment.

  26. Mirren10 says

    Jan 3, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    That made my toes curl. What an idiot.

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